Dogfight F 15 vs Su 30
Avionics
APG-63(V)2 has a tracking range of about 5nm/9km longer than the N011M BARS
The advantage in radar range is not significant but the F-15C’s AESA frequency agile radar is more jam resistant. Unfortunately, AIM-120D missiles are not and armament is the F-15C’s biggest shortcoming in this comparison;
The Su-30SM or Su-30MKI both carry high power output ECM suites that can operate at distances from which the APG-63 can provide tracking information and attain a lock on the Flankers, and multi pulse DRFM jamming can also render the AMRAAM's useless from long distance.
The AN/ALQ-135 ECM fitted to the F-15C on the other hand lacks range to do much against the N011M BARS radar and does not have necessary components for DRFM attack. US aircraft fitted AN/ALQ-167 DRFM capable ECM are: A-6E, EA-6A, EA-6B, EP-3J, F-14A/B, F/A-18A-D, EC-24A, and NKC-135 (surprisingly not F-15 and F-22 although they are large enough).
This makes the F-15C more vulnerable to active or semi radar homing missiles, relying on chaff and evasive maneuvers to defeat them. The Su-30SM/MKI also have significant advantage in missile kinematic range and firepower to be exploited.
As others said, pilot skill and experience as well as unit cohesion between squadron members and ground control is more detrimental especially when the hardware are closely matched, at least in beyond visual range engagement in this case. Both the Su-30MKI and Su-30SM have a crew of two which is a strategic and tactical advantage, the workload is divided. Of course the crew of the F-15C would also work as a team, but team work can go further with the Flankers.
The F-15’s reported record of no losses to air-to-air combat is circumstantial, the opposing pilots were usually poorly trained and their ill maintained aircraft were prone to failures. The aircraft’s dogfight performance is also not as stellar as it’s radar has been throughout much of it’s operational history.
As the simulated dogfight exercises demonstrate, the Flanker is inherently more maneuverable than the F-15.
Variant
There are some ‘Su-30’ variants which are not combat ready. The Su-30M2 for example is a trainer with avionics not designed for combat. But the most capable among them are the Russian Su-30SM two seat multi role fighter and Indian Su-30MKI with Western built ECM. India operates MICA and Meteor missiles and are reportedly trying to develop ways to use them on the Su-30MKI.
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Who will win depends on who is making the video.
@vittthevecc1390
4 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@mookiebetts6135
4 жыл бұрын
i dont understand
@warcraftcombat1021
4 жыл бұрын
Yep
@abhishekkumargautam4018
4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@jet-nerd1527
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly if it’s Americans there going to say the f-15C won If it’s Russian they’re going to say the Sukhoi 30 won
Sukhoi: physics sold separately
@genfrara6554
2 жыл бұрын
Why...i don understand
@branislavradojevic7898
2 жыл бұрын
@@genfrara6554 because they do gravity-defying stunts,like they have no physics at all
@gtgbrb.Chad1617-v1b
2 жыл бұрын
Loll
@sandipan.debnath2812
2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
The camera men are starting to get really talented.
@poison_corpse3140
2 жыл бұрын
They hired superman😏
@BLASTxStingray
2 жыл бұрын
@@poison_corpse3140 lol
The best fighter jet is the one with the best pilot in the cockpit
@humungous09
4 жыл бұрын
Yes sir!
@rahulmalik4091
4 жыл бұрын
Technology plays a vital. Role. Now a days.... With bvram missile dog fights are pretty rare..
@amoldman9194
4 жыл бұрын
Why dont good fighter pilot dont use comercial plan to doge fight?
@adittya3324
4 жыл бұрын
Absoluteli
@Shubham-sandman
4 жыл бұрын
Just like Wg Cmdr Abhinandan of IAF Shot down F-16 with a MiG-21
*meanwhile IAF MIG 21 BISON --- HOLD MY BEER*
@benzz4109
5 жыл бұрын
No thanks Why did you even us that term It is irrelevant
@birdpolice4803
5 жыл бұрын
@@benzz4109 why you even born on earth? Its irrelevant
@vipinkumarpandey9071
5 жыл бұрын
@@benzz4109 i think you don't know about the F16 shot by mig21
@Niazi4201
5 жыл бұрын
@@vipinkumarpandey9071 hahahahaha
@hasnainwahab4316
5 жыл бұрын
no f16 was destroyed. an american visited Pakistan and counted num of F16. none of them where missing
In Soviet Russia the Air will attack your jet
@ellepant
3 жыл бұрын
There is no soviet russia,its just russia 🤣🤣🤣
@ellepant
3 жыл бұрын
@C4TUN4 D0G0 M1L0S maybe coz it aint funny
@mhazg6621
3 жыл бұрын
@@ellepant get the joke, silly
@soldiermark9059
3 жыл бұрын
Physics has entered the chat
@kristianjaramillo5093
3 жыл бұрын
@@ellepant isn't funny? U put laugh emoji dummy
Good Editor, he can mixed between real scene and dogfight simulator game. Perfect.
@mdnizamuddin2256
3 жыл бұрын
Acimate
@mdnizamuddin2256
3 жыл бұрын
8m. Acimate
Just here to see keyboard warriors of KZread...
@Krishna98567
3 жыл бұрын
Including you 😂
@lavv5933
3 жыл бұрын
Kennedy Nongthombam your being a keyboard warrior you poo face
@Dulakx
3 жыл бұрын
As a youtube comment expert i consider myself as an aviation specialist and i'd say MIG is superior
From what i know (no expert here ) , Two very different fighters . The f-15 has a very high thrust to weight ratio , and is very maneuverable at high speed high altitude engagements . It has very good energy retention. The su-30 is better in high aoa thanks to its design and thrust vectoring but after a very tight turn it will bleed a lot of energy . So really the pilot who drags the other aircraft to a fight that benefits his aircraft will win . I say Its different philosophy because Americans although they were the first to test thrust vectoring in aircrafts the didn't use it . They only use it in the f-22 . I think most us fighters are designed to keep their energy better while russian ones can turn tighter and are more maneuverable at low speeds but they bleed a lot of energy . I guess its a matter of who's the pilot .
@elitewavez4768
2 жыл бұрын
The russain jets aren't ment to maunver at low speeds the jets like the f18 is
@akarshanbhasin6324
2 жыл бұрын
In real life , the dogfights usually end in the 1st 2-3 turns . All it takes is one good turn and that's it but at the end of the day , it really comes down to the pilot's capabilities and his/her training . Both are capable aircrafts but the Su-30MKI i believe has the edge with it's super maneuverability , mix of russian israeli and french avionics paired with r-77 , r-73 , mica and indigenous missiles like astra mk1 and in the near future astra mk2 and 3 .
@sapiensrex5603
2 жыл бұрын
Uhaha ... In the early 90s there was a "courtesy visit" of the Russian Air Force to the country of Pindos, that is, the United States. The Americans offered to conduct mock battles between su27 and f15 as well. The proud Yankees prefer not to talk about the results (apparently because they still hurt). There are vile rumors that su27 have not lost a single battle. Gee))) But this, of course, is a fake, the Americans cannot lose! Or can? ;)
@THE-X-Force
2 жыл бұрын
@@sapiensrex5603 Who is the most experienced fighting force in the world?
@Brian-qj4kk
Жыл бұрын
@@THE-X-Force russia
As someone else commented, it'll come down to the pilot who knows how to use his aircraft and it's weapons systems.
@randomlyweird001
2 жыл бұрын
what
@imjackos9556
Жыл бұрын
It's not the plane sir, it's the pilot
Somebody give some credit to the cameramen
@jairobarros-nabu3635
4 жыл бұрын
jahahaha
@Frankenstein0777
4 жыл бұрын
This was animated
@deanmartin7924
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah 😂 he is all ower the place
@itsuko3205
4 жыл бұрын
@@Frankenstein0777 some of them not all
@callmeqt1269
4 жыл бұрын
It’s not real... the easiest way to prove that is the camera angles. You can’t be still in the sky in the middle of a dogfight. It’s obviously fake if you analyze it even a little. I assume you’re trolling, but some people may not realize so this is mostly for them.
Both deadly machines. Who wins will depend on the pilot and whoever makes the first mistake. There's no mercy for second chances
It's all about who is the pilot...,indian pilot of Mg 21 shoot down f16 of pakistan...
@waynehu664
4 жыл бұрын
I am all for Indian pilots, but they never showed any material proof. No photos, no fighter jet scraps of F-16. But the captured Indian pilot was released by Pakistan Military . The Indian Air Force has to do better that that.
@haseebkhawaja1050
4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣😅😅😅
@toyotawitha20mm35
4 жыл бұрын
@@waynehu664 mig 21s are lethal even now days , the mig 21 is more than capable of thrashing an f16
@user-yv1pl1cc5m
4 жыл бұрын
@@haseebkhawaja1050 f16 end of Pak 🤣🤣🤣
@tahirismail3937
4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 Are you kidding me? Don't drunk so much
As per my knowledge, Dog fights are history now. 5th generation aircraft are capable of firing missiles in all 360 degrees. Add to it increasing capacity of BVR missiles. Yes, for pure nostalgia, this can be enjoyed.
@flogger8413
3 жыл бұрын
Actually dogfights in today's day and age dogfights are oddly common.Dogfight despite cultural belief still occurs quite commonly in today's modern age of air to air combat. The efficacy of BVR air-to-air missiles has been criticized. The increased success rate of BVR combat during Operation Desert Storm may have significantly depended on other factors, such as assistance of AWACS, NCTR system of F-15Cs, as well as enemy incompetence. One major issue with BVR is still unreliable IFF technology to this day (Identification friend or foe) which can cause massive friendly fire issue.
@apastafarian5051
2 жыл бұрын
I'm about to say we have dog fights all the time they're nowhere near Fair because we have 4th generation Jets versus their second generation but in the gulf war we had many
@ofekk213
2 жыл бұрын
normies who saa y dogfighting is a thing of the history are almost as dumb as normies who say tanks are obaolete due to drones. dogfighting will always be a thing, even when we have spacecraft. the americans made the mistakr of thinking dogfighting is dead once with the F-4 phantom, lets hope they arent as dumb to repeat this mistake.
@cad5238
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's what they said in Vietnam! No gun? As crusader pilots what they think about that.Or Phantom pilots.
@StealthBomber2938
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah and there was an intense close-range dogfight between a Ukrainian and Russian plane a few days ago are you sure their history
"I'm gonna hit the breaks and he'll fly right by"
@williamjordan5554
3 жыл бұрын
Harriers did that in the Falklands war.
This time after U.K. royal airforce Indian airforce with su30 engaged three time f15 in Us Air training it was awesome
@ahmedamrahmedabdelmoneum398
5 жыл бұрын
Who won
This editing is very good
In 2008 during operation Malabar The Mirage 2000 Locked the F15 strike eagle several times then the us airforce demanded their govt to replace the eagle by Raptor
@thesillyseal284
3 жыл бұрын
The raptor was already a thing in 2008. Hasn't michael bay told you yet??
@flogger8413
3 жыл бұрын
August 2008 USAF designed a war game exercise with russia the blue side being US F-35B and Super Hornets and some F-22 fighter jets versing the red side Su-30SM and Su-35UB and Su-27SM the wargame was apparently designed to test the 35 visual range dogfight capabilities Email from Peter Goon Gumley, August 28, 2008 "The Red Force dominated the exercise going up against two versions of Blue force, Both of which were roundly defeated. One way the Red Force summation of the event has been described as that of 'it was like clubbing baby seals' " "In addition to this rather blunt Red Force summation, the War game exercises demonstrated the Joint Strike Fighter Aircraft were next to useless, While the super hornets of both blue force were significantly overmatched, in other words.. Useless" "Hundreds of Blue Force aircraft was lost in the exercise simulation in mere Minutes, while reds suffer a mere dozen" RAND corporation report on the F-35 JSF " The JSF is 'Double Inferior' to modern Russian / Chinese fighter designs in visual range combat. Inferior Acceleration, Inferior Climb, Inferior sustain turn capability. The Conclusion the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter was, 'Cant turn, Cant climb, Cant run' "
@Cane1992
3 жыл бұрын
Please.... 105-0
@keithfillinger3182
3 жыл бұрын
@@flogger8413 You should watch a KZread channel called Ready Room. It is a former US Navy pilot serving as an instructor for the Royal Malaysian Air Force. He has actual footage of mock dogfights of him being an F18 D verses Mig 29 and SU 30MKM. He said he wins and loses in those engagements. It all comes down to pilot and training.
@tejasanonymous
2 жыл бұрын
@vineeth really??
I live the clip of comparison of both those beast's 💯
Very Informative Video Description. Thanks..
3:17 that scene looks like a game where you see something similar but it's a su-27 chasing an f-18 in ace combat the belkan war
@ellepant
3 жыл бұрын
Great story bro
Who was this incredible camera man!! WOW!! Must have been Superman. I think I caught a glimpse of him in just 1 frame. You have to watch very, very closely.
@summerneat9704
3 жыл бұрын
lol
That was epic!👍
I seen like 7 seven su 35 passing by one by one in Oshkosh like a few months ago
I am concerned about the recent conflict between Pakistan and India involving Combat Jets from each party. I really hope that the conflict will be resolved immediately peacefully.
@AlphaAlvi
5 жыл бұрын
Conflict has been resolved though India lost two birds. I dont care about Mig-21 but Su-30mki reputation has been damaged by the recent conflict.
@ForceChannel1
5 жыл бұрын
@@AlphaAlvi I am happy to hear that the conflict has ended peacefully, thank you for sharing this information
@divyanshverma2327
5 жыл бұрын
Pakistan lost f16 .rip f16 .it got shot down from mig 21 bison.they cant even dare to fight with su 30 mki.its a beast
@abhishek7947
5 жыл бұрын
@@AlphaAlvi India not even lose sukhoi 30 mki lost only one mig21 bison
@hasnainwahab4316
5 жыл бұрын
no f16 was been shot. the video of f16 that was uploaded in india media was of 2017 you can search for it your media is lying
I’m thinking 2 planes like this boils down to the pilots honestly
The pilot in the f15 has one chance to survive: Push the "catapult" button as fast as possible, and hope that the parachute working well.
@kemoayers8272
2 жыл бұрын
You've made a huge ASS WIPE of yourself coming on here making a comment like that. You better go back and check the encounters of others who've come up against the F15 No one has beat it yet. Get back out in the fields with your goats!!!! Your lack of knowledge is showing!!!!
@stinkycat3137
2 жыл бұрын
Bruh, first the button would be an ejection button not CaTaPuLt, and second go read a google page about the F-15 and its combat ratio before you come on here spewing shit out of your mouth
@c4n0
2 жыл бұрын
@@kemoayers8272 hahah it hurt, but its true, the us airforce is no longer the top, i can clearly see you shaking in anger while u red that haha
I agree with your assessment. The eagle doesn’t just fly on one plane. It uses vertical as well as horizontal and everything in between. U.S. airmen are so skilled it’s scary.
All I see is video game animation rather than real thing except for the F-15's pilot flying his F-15.
2:47 Cameraman knows how to hundle distance
Wonderful to see these. I've been AFE for the F-15s for the last 4 years.
dogfight in ww2: guns dogfights now: missiles
@c4n0
2 жыл бұрын
dogfightas now: they dont even exist anymore since aircraft shoots in 360 degrees and many have electronic disablers
I love those times where i still fly the f 15 on US AIR FORCE. now im retired and living with my family.
@sulaimankhan4842
5 жыл бұрын
Good
@toyotawitha20mm35
4 жыл бұрын
Pasta
@cad5238
3 жыл бұрын
Congrats.
@antonelimgenco5716
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service!
Gotta love the way the su30 does 180s it’s so cool to see it rock back and forth
Better to ask Abhinandon about this dogfight.........the tea is fantastic sir....
Damn arma 4 lookin good
According to proven dog fights one sukhoi 30mki is equal to 3 f18 in comparison aspect of dogfights
@muneebshah9061
5 жыл бұрын
@@hoodasaksham hahahah lol 24 f 16 fuck.
@zakirali8721
4 жыл бұрын
Not correct. There's more technical stuff involved then just the plane itself. The pilot's hours on his aircraft. The weapon system and radars hes carrying .. the awacs...network of situational awareness.... etc. Can pin point
@sbdenthusiast21
3 жыл бұрын
I hope you realize the f18 probably has the best low speed maneuverability of any jet besides the raptor and the f35, can pull 7-9 times the force of gravity, and has a high AoA, f18 is equal to if not superior to su27
@hemaangsood1540
3 жыл бұрын
Hornets can perform sustained turns While the flankers can perform Instantaneous faster turns
@aramhovsepyan3401
3 жыл бұрын
My man i think you dropped your brain
India---you better be ready to bring it to the Red Chinese. You're going to have to before you know it.
Salute to the camera man
How good is your missile if the plane you're trying to hit is able to get away from getting hit and puts you as a target instead?
This fight actually happened, it was USAF F15C vs IAF Su30mkis + MiG21 bisons , guess what? IAF scored 9:1 kill ratio.
@hamzaafzal1027
2 жыл бұрын
That claim was later rejected by US Airforce. Indians love claiming fake air to air victories. they also claimed 12-0 victory of their Su30mki against RAF typhoons, this claim was also rejected by RAF. lamao!
A great twin engine fighter jets,both a legend.🇺🇸🇷🇺😰🇵🇭
Lmao the siren at the beginning is an apple ringtone
EPIK MAN KEEP HOING U RECIEVE ONE SUB
The engagements between India an US were against un experienced pilots from what I've seen. The engagements they had with veteran pilots broke the other way. Wait for the F15X configuration. It was I'll be no contest.
@toyotawitha20mm35
4 жыл бұрын
The su 35 flanker is superior to any f 15
Was wondering if is it true indian su 30 won 9-1 against usa f15 in close combat excersise
@AlexanderTch
4 жыл бұрын
That's true. It was officially reported by Indian Air- defense
@alanowens7327
4 жыл бұрын
Not a chance
@Darko-kn6il
4 жыл бұрын
true or not you cannot deny the fact that US fought in that exercise with its hands tied behind its back(Handicap) for them to study the Su-30's..in a real war Su-30's would not even touch F-15 with all the external factors and force multiplier the US can throw against that Su-30.
@darkkingrc-1414
4 жыл бұрын
Only short range... No BVR missiles allowed where USA could have won
@AR-cj5bb
4 жыл бұрын
I am wondering about the 1 that us scored because MKI is a hybrid fighter with indian+isareali+france technologies and russians as the parent source, F-15 or F-22 Wont stand a chance
Man behind the machine makes the difference irresrespecting which fighter you are operating.
1:33 props to the camera man
Aircraft artistic design is not the matter equipped with the right highly sophisticated Armaments proven tested higher percentage accuracy over opponents is promising enough for the defence
It's a friendly fight.
PAF JF 17 THUNDER entered chat . Indian su 30 and mig 21 has left the chat. Abhinandan left the chat after fantastic tea.
Respect to the bird that recorded that
I hope that to the real fights will not happen.
@lelouche25
5 жыл бұрын
Well if the Russians think well be flying in old ass post cold war planes. They got another thing coming
@isahbello9785
5 жыл бұрын
@@lelouche25 If you think Russian air defence cant take down your expensive stealth planes you got another thing coming.
Winner will be good pilot
This is the first time I've seen dog fight.
So many guns-guns-guns moments in that video.
How come all of those SU 30 lovers have like the worst grammar? “Su 30 is best in world” and “Su 30 have good maneuver F 15 cant defeat” That’s what I’ve seen lmao Also this comment isn’t a hate comment on the SU 30 it’s just saying that.
@mikaels6009
4 жыл бұрын
Lol I notice that too and I'm s su series fan 😂. I guess most are not native English speakers.
@toyotawitha20mm35
4 жыл бұрын
I'm American, and even I am worried about the su 30's ability to kick any planes ass in a dogfight, but dogfights dont happen anymore so it's more luck based
@FoxtrotStudi0s
3 жыл бұрын
@@toyotawitha20mm35 I’m American as well and I love Suhkoi more than American jets for beauty and maneuverability, and if say the 30SM2, 35S, or 30MKi+ pilot has the skills they can basically make say and F-22 have to drag itself into VR in order to gain even a lead.
Mihaly vs Trigger
Camera man in creative mode
Amazing
Iaf even has a credit of defeating uk royal air force by 12-0 in exercise indradhanush in 2015.. where su30 defeated advancer eurotyphon
@centaur8518
3 жыл бұрын
@Muhammad's sexy Pig he is right. I am an Indian. But it is true that typhoon has a big advantage over our Su30 in BVR combat
@ellepant
3 жыл бұрын
Wouldnt in real life though my indian friend,theres certain rules in exercises,that attacking pilots and defending pilots have to do.
@ellepant
3 жыл бұрын
@Muhammad's sexy Pig ha ha ha 40% more lethal,were did you dream this up 🤣🤣🤣 the eurofighter is designed to combat su-30,who do you think trains your army and navy and airforce you spack.
@madhurisaxena5215
2 жыл бұрын
@@ellepant bvr su30 has Astra mk2(200+km) ,mica(80km),r77(150+km) and meteor( being tested) and asraam I know eurofighter typhoon is best multirole But su 30mki will have chance since it's a heavy weight air superiority fighter and can carry many wepons.
The su30s r the most dangerous when it comes to dogfights
@thespacebaryonyx6007
4 жыл бұрын
Karan Agarwal the f 15 was made for dogfight and make especially for it
@frodobaggins2852
4 жыл бұрын
@@thespacebaryonyx6007 doesn't change the fact that su30s are deadly af
@radhakrishna-fv6dt
4 жыл бұрын
Yes in a dog fight su 30 is the most critical one! Although dog fights occur rarely now!
@abhishekgiri1201
3 жыл бұрын
I still believe that Rafale is the deadliest in dog fights !!!
@rolmena9556
3 жыл бұрын
This is just training. Lets see whar would happen in real war against those deadly american pilots or the israeli
all dogfights in history are very rare to happen, and recording it is a very rare too, and the chance to see it is very rare too, leaving the chance to watch a real dogfight is 0%.
I would like to have an autograph of these two pilot and cameraman
長文面倒で途中から読んでないけど、実機で見るとすごい。
Su.30 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@malikishak6227
5 жыл бұрын
Why not try with the SU 30MKM..?? we have try with the F 22 raptor before.give difficult to the F 22 raptor pilot...with the jamming pod.
@nicolasnex6775
4 жыл бұрын
Su 27 the best airplane 10/10 👌👌👌
@thespacebaryonyx6007
4 жыл бұрын
NICOLASNEX67 no
Very nice
The camera man in creative mode 🤫
Pilots are fighting in comment section🤣🤣🤣🤣 Meanwhile real pilot: we are common people🤣🤣
Su 30 is a greater air combat machine but f 15 's weaponary package is impressive.
Nice
the camera man is going god mode rn
Just like the tiger was better then the sherman tank. There are other ways to win.
@aldenunion
3 жыл бұрын
1000-1 ratio,Those tigers best be ready to rumble.lol.
Indians on Su-30MKI scored 8-1 against F-15/16/18 in drill combats.
@housey4297
5 жыл бұрын
No, they didn't.
@muayboran5152
5 жыл бұрын
So what. A single F15 with b61 thermo nuke can burn the entire India including your fat budha
@DilipKumar-mu1cu
5 жыл бұрын
No it was 9-1
@yoshidasan4780
5 жыл бұрын
@@muayboran5152 for ur kind info one brahmos can destroy ur whole naval fleet
@MegaARYARAJ
5 жыл бұрын
@@housey4297 yes they did
Shoot Heat Traps In Real Dog Fight - Director Must Win Oscar
Who takes the video?
I guess this is what you can expect when you’re the best: everybody wants to beat you, and they can in simulations, but not in real life.
Maj. Mark Snowden later said in an interview, "The outcome of the exercise boils down to [the fact that] they ran tactics that were more advanced than we expected… we did not expect them to be a very well-trained air force. That was silly
Dogfighting is so old and antiquated, it may very cinematic yet popular in media and war games, while in reality, deadly aircrafts like F-15s are already shooting down their targets in bvr engagements.
@joydas3074
5 жыл бұрын
Brother it may be but recently sukhoi jamed aamram, so now what ?
@toyotawitha20mm35
4 жыл бұрын
@@joydas3074 they did make a jammer once that su 30 gets in a dogfight with the f15 its screwed
I'm quite sure we have something up our sleeve. Who ever heard of the F 117 til the Gulf War. If we don't????
Make dogfights su35 vs f15
@bzut07
5 жыл бұрын
not worth it... f15 ever cannot win su27
@dumdumbinks274
5 жыл бұрын
@@bzut07 At high speed the F-15 is just as maneuverable as the Su-27 while also packing better weapons and systems. The Su-35 vs perhaps the F-15SA is a very reasonable comparison that could go in favour of either fighter.
@kind-heart6273
5 жыл бұрын
Here we have a comparison of a short minded person and an open minded person Short minded person: “Su27 WiLi BeAt ThE F15” short minded people thinks with emotion not base on fact Open minded person: “F15 can maneuver just as good as Su30 etc etc” proceeds to respond with logics and facts without any emotion conflict or bias towards each subject
@orioncreation-iitian
5 жыл бұрын
@@kind-heart6273 lol f15 maneuver is not upto mark with su 30 F15 can match upto su 27
People here are bragging about some joint air games which the Indian Su-30's had a 9:1 kill ratio. Great headline, but that's all it is. The Indian government place restrictions on the F-15, I guess to build moral or simulate some other aircrafts. Regardless: * The F-15's were not allowed to have the advanced active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar system. (The Eagle is 105-0 in real life combat because they kill other fighters from long distance, which they are trained to do.) * The air engagements typically involved six Eagles against up to eighteen IAF aircraft with no chance to simulate any beyond visual range (BVR) missile shot. * Again, the IAF requested that no F-15's be allowed to carry AMRAMM's, something that would never happen in real life. It's the equivalent of asking the Eagles to bring a knife to a gun fight. The Flanker is inherently more maneuverable than the F-15, and with these restrictions in place... well, you get the picture. That being said, India has a great air force, and American brass praised them for their abilities and (most importantly) said the USAF learned a lot during the exercises. Lastly, the F-15 has lost during air games in the past, but is 105 - 0 in real life air battles, most of which, weren't close.
@MsShokat10
5 жыл бұрын
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@KaranSingh-xc8bd
5 жыл бұрын
And those restrictions where due to the degree of advancement.
@tushartomar4303
5 жыл бұрын
@@hoodasaksham he's talking about amram missiles which india jammed and destroyed in the dogfight with Pakistani f-16 😂😂 that's the reason why india asked for no amrams
@rajurathod7971
5 жыл бұрын
@keelo tan yes off course...
@pre8ch
5 жыл бұрын
keelo tan no doubt about it
Wonderful...
Gg nice speed 👍
In such close fights, no one can beat Russian fighters bcoz of their world class maneuverability
@dravon2955
3 жыл бұрын
yea thats why there called "dancers of the sky"
@threestrikes1442
3 жыл бұрын
*Then the F-22A Raptor Stealth Fighter Jet steps into the ring* The F-22A Pilot: you sure about that?
@fukyubichh7989
3 жыл бұрын
Let me guess Russian fanboy😂
@FoxtrotStudi0s
3 жыл бұрын
@@threestrikes1442 Yea, considering the F-22 pilots aren’t even trained to handle such fights and are made as last ditch effort for the pilot, the 30SM2, 35S, MKi+ (which is literally a 5th gen SU-30MKi without stealth) still have far better maneuverability over the F-22, which is a lot more stable due to its angular design, something you want very little of in a dogfight.
@danilobadua7775
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah sure. An SU-29 piloted by a Russian was shot down by a Turkish F-16. It was all over the news about a year and a half ago. Stop drinking the cool aid.
In real life they Will not be able to come that close. Rocket Will Have launched before they come close range from 100 km.
@Nusjuro772
4 жыл бұрын
negative dude , dogfight will never end , they will have to come close if they are out of missiles , if they dodged each others missiles , if there is a full scale war between two countries , there will be lots of dogfights
@rangoli9620
4 жыл бұрын
@@Nusjuro772 yeah ur right
@toyotawitha20mm35
4 жыл бұрын
@@Nusjuro772 so that means the russians are always gonna be superior in the air, all the other countries are focused on TeChNoLoGy instead of the important stuff,... ahem turn rate..
@flogger8413
3 жыл бұрын
Dogfights in today's day and age dogfights are oddly common.Dogfight despite cultural belief still occurs quite commonly in today's modern age of air to air combat. The efficacy of BVR air-to-air missiles has been criticized. The increased success rate of BVR combat during Operation Desert Storm may have significantly depended on other factors, such as assistance of AWACS, NCTR system of F-15Cs, as well as enemy incompetence. One major issue with BVR is still unreliable IFF technology to this day (Identification friend or foe) which can cause massive friendly fire issue.
the animation is good
Super
Su-30 is the best.from Indonesia
@salmanmalix3822
5 жыл бұрын
Jf17 smashed su30
@saepulamri9781
5 жыл бұрын
Kalo lawannya f 18 sama f 15 kayaknya masih unggul deh, ga tau kalo lawannya F-16 viper kita bisa menang ga.
@orioncreation-iitian
5 жыл бұрын
@@salmanmalix3822 in ur dreams
@sanjugartan
5 жыл бұрын
Su 30 mki defeat typhoon 12-0in friendly dogfight between IAF and RAF
Anyone noticed it's just a compilation of some live footage and CG?
@yapengsun3775
4 жыл бұрын
correct
Camera man is the winner😂😂
How long did you need to rendering this video?
Is this video is made by any software...it can't be real I m sure
F15 couldn't cobra manouver .
The smart and able pilot makes the difference
Cool
*Le S400 : "Am I a joke to you?"
@wesleyevans894
5 жыл бұрын
Stand off weapons of choice to defeat S400 before the radar can detect it, "Ka booom!!!" Yes you are a joke to the "world," not just me!
@3rdeye770
3 жыл бұрын
Pakistan F-16 fighting falcon shot down indian su-30 and mig-21 also a helicopter on 29 Feb 2019.tea Fantastic
the F-15 has beaten the Mig 29 3 times in REAL combat.
The beautiful sounds 🤘✌️the operators 🤘🖖 the photography ✌️✌️✌️
They both have radar guided missiles. How did they merge?