These guys with their extreme intelligence and logic help give me my faith. Seeing men who are so intellectually stimulating for philosophy and theology is really powerful.

Fr. Thomas is a great professor.

@eraimattei

3 жыл бұрын

I am just amazed, how did an OP friar and theological teacher at Rome end up with a Ph.D degree in america

@krabelpaan

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe it was the other way around. First the Ph. D. in Stanford, and later the Dominican Order and Rome.

@matthewmayuiers

3 жыл бұрын

@@krabelpaan exactly, he first got his first PhD in particle physics and then later he took on philosophy and became a Dominican.

@krabelpaan

3 жыл бұрын

A really interesting path to walk towards the depths of Reality...

I am reading a great book called "The Restless Clock" where it goes over the history of agency in the sciences. The most interesting part is how many scientists have striven to focus on a mechanistic perspective while ignoring the glaring issue of the argument from design vs. an emergent or vitalistic notion of agency. A clockwork universe is very often something that requires a mover and scientists find themselves using the argument of chance to attempt to explain away agency while some believers focus on occasionalism. For me, my go to book for the issues raised in this video is "The Modeling of Nature" by William Wallace. Since then, I can see how even in the scientific method itself how the Aristotelian-Thomistic paradigm would lead to greater understanding of nature beyond our typical skeleton models.

Wow! So it's not a stretch to say that Aristotle as an empiricist and master of deduction/induction is the father of modern science.

Brilliant

Great video! This really cleared things up for me. One could also invoke the principle of least action, on which all of classical mechanics is based, and which also survives in some form in the path integral formulation of quantum mechanics.

@ThomisticInstitute

3 жыл бұрын

We're glad you found the video helpful. Thanks for watching!

Ernest Myer recognize the teleology of Biological process, but to differ this concept from the Inteligente Desing movement, he call this teleomatics process. It's intresting that he recognizes that this concept is equal with the Aristotelical Concept of Teleology, but said that the Aquinas concept was diferent. It was a misuderstanding?

Excellent explanation. Thank you.

@ThomisticInstitute

3 жыл бұрын

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Very cool.

Thank you Father 🙏

@ThomisticInstitute

3 жыл бұрын

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Great explanation, and series!

@ThomisticInstitute

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Hope you enjoy the rest of the series.

So well explained. Thanks!

@ThomisticInstitute

3 жыл бұрын

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The Universe has no purpose in itself, for it has no mind. But God, it's maker has a mind. Therefore, he can have a plan for the Universe.

It reminds me of automatic-thinking. Sometimes we assume something as a principle without being conscious of it. Likewise, in science, teleos is often assumed, but perhaps disagreed with given its term is known to us by an equivocal meaning.

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Thanks Father

@ThomisticInstitute

3 жыл бұрын

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Im a bit confused. If the kinetic energy of each particle cannot wholly explain temperature, then what else is going on? If we knew the velocity and location of each particle, doesn’t that lead us to an explanation of temperature? If not, what is added that lets us measure the temperature of a substance? We wouldn’t say something supernatural is going on in my coffee right?

@colinpierre3441

Жыл бұрын

It would be great to say we could explain and understand everything from a scientific standpoint, however there are certain things that are just too vast for us to fully comprehend. The function of the human brain and the origin of gravity are just two examples. If you doubt that there are supernatural forces or a higher being involved in the grand scheme of things, take a look at the Bible. The Bible contains thousands of prophecies that have never failed to come true... surely such a feat cannot be performed by mortal men. There exists proof in artifacts and monuments that have been discovered.

However, if you inflate the application of final causality, you end up with teleologism, which is no better than determinism.

Excellent video

@ThomisticInstitute

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Ben!

The issue I have with this train of thought is that the end seems to be what we, as humans, perceive them to be…that we know what the end is. That can be hubris as these may be the telos that man believes the final causality to be; which may not be the same as God’s “common thread”. Thomas himself realized that all he had written “was like straw”. We are much more then Aristotelian logic and physics and our souls do not necessarily follow all of these ends. After all, martyrs may do things that make no sense as an “end” (the forfeiture of life for God). And, while physics may lend itself to teleological arguments, biology, ecology, anthropology & sociology do not.

@demergent_deist

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, if one wants to explain movements with certain final causes in an objective sense, then this is presumptuous. Because the true telos is perhaps not accessible for our cognition at all: "No one can comprehend what goes on under the sun. Despite all their efforts to search it out, no one can discover its meaning. Even if the wise claim they know, they cannot really comprehend it." (Ecclesiastes 8:17) Most of the movements could be forced and due to many causal factors resulting movements. Such resulting movements cannot be called final.

A good explanation. Thank you. The recent discoveries in science is a fertile field of evangelisation for literate scientist catholics. Dr Robert L Kuhn is doing powerful work in his series Closer To Truth.

The Dominican Order accepts foreigners?

@jeremysmith7176

3 жыл бұрын

He's not French so yes.

@matthewmayuiers

3 жыл бұрын

Yes they allow foreigners, diversity and global presence gives the Dominicans strength.

That a purposeless universe could birth purposeful beings is more irony and paradox than I can believe, or live.

> menu items cost under 5 dollars (0:10) unrealistic

@ThomisticInstitute

2 жыл бұрын

Fair enough. Nice catch!

I the Alpha and the OMEGA, says the Lord ; tge beginning and the END.

Law of inertia -> no change to motion in the absence of a force therefore no end to motion The buoyancy force is why helium balloons float to the sky. The pressure differential causes continuous upwards motion If you throw a rock into space it won't end up on the ground. It'll go into orbit. This strawman argument that Aristotle s detractors believe he's talking about what things want to do as if they were conscious is not the objection. Things don't tend towards the ground or sky by their nature but by shared physical properties of mass and density. A rock or a tree hurtled into space will behave the same way, in that they will orbit. All of this is wrong and it is unethical to teach it as if it were coherent with modern science or essential to modern science. It is also unethical to misrepresent the objection to final causality as some sort of conspiracy in modern science. Modern science is built on the rejection of final causality so much so that we smash particles together to see what comes out without asking what is the natural end of the particles. In fact we only start learning once we reject final causes Please stop teaching this

@johnkane176

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think the point of the video was Aristotle's knowledge of mechanics, but the idea that matter has particular properties which which dispose it to "seek" an equilibrium according to those properties. A rock hurtling through space is "at rest" from a Newtonian perspective in that it is force-stable, though may have a relative velocity to other objects it's not interacting with. Viewing the physical world teleologicaly works well in that sense, I think.

@krzysztofciuba271

3 жыл бұрын

u are a funny fool not knowing the principle of least action in physics. In alive matter: the whole process tends to a goal: a more organized system contra just the laws of classical thermodynamics

@demergent_deist

2 жыл бұрын

Modern science assumes modest natural necessity: Given the occurrence of B, A must necessarily have occurred. Here is the further premise of modern science: "Order […] is simply entailed by the nature of existence itself." (George H. Smith - Atheism) "Once we accept the fact of existence, we must also accept the fact that things are what they are (identity), and that they behave as they do in virtue of what they are (causality)." (George H. Smith - Atheism)

@neuronneuron3645

2 жыл бұрын

@@demergent_deist No that's not true. There are counter examples from modern science - virtual particles, wave function collapse, something as simple as photon emission from a light source lacks a cause

@kykloskatharevousa7147

2 жыл бұрын

I don't see where it's antithetical to science. And also. Aristotle doesn't mean movement by motion. He used motion to describe any type of change. Hungry is a motion, walking, sleeping, thinking. Every change is motion.