I was born and raised in polygamy. It’s ALWAYS toxic - “us Vs them”. Even Leah and Rachel who were sisters, when you read Genesis 30, you begin to see the toxicity of the whole arrangement. My father has since passed on - he did in his 80s and he regretted taking another wife. He made my brother swear that he wouldn’t go down that path. Most people from my parents’ generation have exited and they were raised by the generation that saw polygamy as a necessity for their farming profession. The point is I never met anyone from my parents’s generation who took more than one wife who didn’t regret it on his deathbed. As one of my grand uncles said: the day you take a second wife, you have shortened your lifespan by at least 5 years.

@successedobi4702

Жыл бұрын

My man of God shared the last statement with us during a teaching like this You shorten your lifespan

@learnwithebube4im

11 ай бұрын

@@successedobi4702 pqapa

@bisongdelphine9285

11 ай бұрын

Just on point

@Polygyny

11 ай бұрын

Yet there many people who are happy they entered polygamy. A bad experience doesn't mean it's bad for everyone

@JohnsonAmoni-bn3nr

11 ай бұрын

I met so many people that married one wife and regretted marrying at all and I have met men who had many wives and happy they did it, my father was one and he passed away at the age of eighty. Some Men can handle only one wife, some can handle multiple while some can not handle any.

Pst Iren was spot on about this! I share his view STRONGLY about Polygamy! Obviously..."It was not so in the beginning!" Christ's death and resurrection has restored us our "beginning" statuses! Uncontrolled lust underpin polygamy!!

@Polygyny

11 ай бұрын

Lust is not inherent in polygamy What you said is a false statement

@emmanuelleshak1897

11 ай бұрын

@@Polygyny Noted. Could you explain your stand, please? That would be more helpful. Thanks.

@Polygyny

11 ай бұрын

@emmanuelleshak1897 You have incorrectly applied lust to polygyny - most Christians don't know what lust means because most pastors have no understanding of it either or rather the want to appease their female audiences who can't accept how God built the male body and mind The definition of lust is to covet (as Paul said in Romans): to covet means attempting/plotting to unlawfully possess what is not yours - whether it's someone's wife, house, car etc. as the commandment says in the 10 commandments A man thinking any woman is hot or attractive or even wanting to marry her lawfully, whether he is married or not is not lust Jesus was referring to lusting after or coveting a woman who is married, which is why he called it adultery. Adultery always involves a married woman Can lust lead to pologyny? Yes, the same way it can lead to monogamy if a man takes a married woman to be his wife whether as his only wife or as an additional wife ---- Christ's atonement restored us to being able to choose righteousness over sin and in turn be pleasing to God and restore the relationship Adam severed. It never restored any state present in the beginning (e.g. we still wear clothes and eat meat which were not conditions in the beginning before sin). There is no evidence in scripture to even remotely suggest that if Adam didn't sin that his progeny would have stayed monogamous or that God stated that it was his ideal. No man is the same - Adam had one wife, other men have different preferences and God never stated any preference for either one. God chose to have two wives ( Ezekiel 23)

@Tiktok_coach

11 ай бұрын

​@@PolygynyThis is a false analysis no matter how lengthy it is or intellectually appealing. Every involvement in polygamy by anyone in Scriptures was never inspired by God. It was a product of their carelessness, impatience, disobedience which are all included in the lustful nature of the natural man. But the fact that they ended up in polygamy does not mean that they are not children of God. But we should not adopt there mistakes as as a template for the Christian faith. The Scriptures in Hebrews admonish us to look unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith. And same Jesus said that "from the beginning, it was not so..." So this means that the template for marriage can only be found in the beginning, where God created one man and one woman. And the Scriptures says, "two shall become one". Not three or four... I pray God gives you more understanding even as you seek to know his will concerning this matter.

@josephesezobor7743

11 ай бұрын

Emmanuel u spoke well, polygamy I just choice n won't take u to hell. Remember this marriage self na for this earth.

Many people don’t actually care about the Word transforming them by renewing their minds. They just want the Word to back up their false ideologies, rather than having God use it to pull down those ideologies and exalt His own. That’s why those people watched that TikTok video and disagreed. Some of them even claimed to have read the Bible and seen that it supports polygamy. God have mercy.

@Polygyny

11 ай бұрын

Marrying more than one wife is fully biblical and righteous Abraham (the Father of faith) Jacob Gideon (a hero/judge of Israel) David Caleb Moses (the law giver on marriage and adultery) Solomon (the wisest on earth) Many other king of Israel All had more than one wife - God Himself said he had two wives in Ezekiel 23 Please get your facts right before concluding with emotion-driven opinions

@prettygemini3432

11 ай бұрын

​@@Polygynyjust because these people had more than 1 wife doesn't mean that's what God intented. They were also killing people and hating enemies? Shall we do that do? What did Jesus say about marriage. He said just as in the beginning man and woman were created, they marry to me cleaved as one, just like they were created. Just because something is in the Bible didn't mean the intention of God for we in the new convent to do

@Polygyny

11 ай бұрын

@prettygemini3432 who told you what God intended? Where in scripture does it say he intended mongamy-only? Read 2 Samuel 12:8 and you will see that God has no preference between monogamy and polygyny - all he cares about is not commiting adultery (sex with a married woman) and treating wife or wives with love Why did God say he is the husband of two wives (Israel and Judah) in Ezekiel before the Hebrews left Egypt? This doesn't sound like a God that "intended" monogamy-only - that would mean that God sinned against himself is a hypocrite (one law for him, one law for his people)

@Polygyny

11 ай бұрын

@prettygemini3432 fair enough you may not agree with polygyny but you can't use scripture to condemn it or say it isn't what God intended 👍

@edowitch4703

11 ай бұрын

@@Polygyny God saying is the God of two wives?🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄. To start with Read Romans 12:1-2 to renew your mind first before undertaking what God mean

Thank you MoG. Another strong perspective to marriage is that, marriage in itself is an adumbration of Salvation - the the marriage between Christ and his church. A prototype - to explain how that we are united with Christ and are made one. For two shall become one, not three or four. Thank you sir.

@iffydike

11 ай бұрын

Exactly!!!!

@emempj

11 ай бұрын

What is the meaning of adumbration?

@iamyashaik

11 ай бұрын

​@@emempjGoogle it

@pastormiraclebruno3212

11 ай бұрын

@@emempj a foreshadowing of or precursor to something. Say, a representation.

@mozamanesono9394

11 ай бұрын

If you don't go according to God's principles. God will never give us something that will be that. Read the bible well , polygamy was never a sin nor condemned by God.

A man who has given himself to the STUDY of God's word.. GOD ABEG!!! Thank you Pastey

@danieldeluca4936

9 ай бұрын

Not in this instance! He has presumed to be able to read God's mind, and used that to add to the Word of God, which Scripture clearly forbids!

I always feel safe under Pastor Iren's teaching. There are just a handful of people that are diligent enough to put out such transparency

@J_a_s_o_n

Жыл бұрын

You are only safe under our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ

@amehgift6105

Жыл бұрын

@@J_a_s_o_n THAT IS TRUE AND THANKFULLY A MAN LIKE PASTOR IREN REPRESENTS TRUTH THAT SETS ONE FREE

@ucol2068

11 ай бұрын

Which one be SAFE again? You no dey read your bible yourself?

@amehgift6105

11 ай бұрын

@@ucol2068 That is why I am saying that I will follow Pastor Iren as long as he follows Jesus. Thanks

@biebiemichael

11 ай бұрын

⁠@@ucol2068 Where you are start picking pin der…..I just know you talk too much shhe….. ahen I’m just sure even your shadow says keep quiet it’s not all matters you put mout.😅😂😊.

I’m not even a Christian but the way this pastor eloquently expressed his views was very impressive

@danieldeluca4936

9 ай бұрын

You shouldn't be impressed. Watch some of Dr Luck's dismantling of this clown's arguments.

@emmanuelakran6533

8 ай бұрын

​@@danieldeluca4936how is he a clown? Answer the question he asked if you have 2 wives does not mean you would be contented

@danieldeluca4936

8 ай бұрын

​@@emmanuelakran6533 If you watched the videos of Dr William Luck on polygamyHQ, you would see how he is a clown. You wouldn't have to ask me. As for the question, God is the One who gives a man the desire to marry, and He is the One who determines how many wives a man should have. It is none of your business, and it is none of this clown's business either! You marry as many wives as God gives you the desire to marry, I will marry how ever many wives God gives me the desire to marry, provided they all consent, and Ziona Chana can marry 39 and Philip Shapr can marry 7, and we can all mind our own business, and not meddle in the affairs of others. How does that sound?

@bigsamkay

5 ай бұрын

Moses legalized divorce not because it was Gods will but because mens hearts were hardened? Does this statement not question if all the laws of Moses were even from God at all? Or is the pastor picking and choosing which ones Moses legalized himself?

@IamHeto

Ай бұрын

​@bigsamkay it is possible for you to confirm all your questions in the Bible, if you read in context. As you don't trust the words of a MOG, you might treasure the truth better when you seek it yourself. If you don't end up doing so, it would be obvious you don't want to help yourself.

I have come to understand that when it comes to the subject of what the Bible says and rebuking wrongs, the people that can actually fathom what is being said are true believers.

@raphaelikem5982

11 ай бұрын

You have said it all, as i was watching i said to myself if they are born again they will know the truth

@idedevwoehruvwu4375

11 ай бұрын

Fact💯

@Vee_TheWorshipper

11 ай бұрын

📌📌

@danieldeluca4936

8 ай бұрын

The funny thing is, polygamy was never rebuked at all anytime, anywhere in any part of Scripture.

@Yuuuuu6

2 күн бұрын

​@@danieldeluca4936 "A man will leave his father's house and be united to his wife" "One man and one woman" Please search up where these verses were said and who made those statements in the Bible before you conclude

The devil always give people seemingly valid excuses for doing things that will not take them - even an inch closer - to God, especially christians and it is sad! We must learn to submit to the voice of the Holy Spirit to pull down those religious errors that the devil has used to build strongholds debarring us from enjoying God to the fullest.

@Polygyny

11 ай бұрын

Marrying more than one wife is fully biblical - here is a small (not complete) list of righteous men who had more than one wife Abraham (the Father of faith) Jacob Gideon (a hero/judge of Israel) David (God said he gave David his wives or will you conclude that God encourage him to "sin"?) Caleb Moses (the law giver on marriage and adultery) Solomon (the wisest on earth) Many other kings of Israel All had more than one wife - God Himself said he had two wives in Ezekiel 23 Polygyny is fully lawful - it's literally in the Torah in the so-called old testament - do your research before coming to incorrect conclusions about what God does and doesn't permit The Holy Spirit allowed, regulated and mandated (Levirate marriage) in scripture The devil only forbids marriage 👍

People have an idea of the truth (to say the least) but they won't want to accept it because it is not pleasing to the 'flesh'. However, they that are in the flesh can not please God. God's word cannot be contradicted in spite of the contradicting opinions of men. Thank you so much Pastey 💥🔥

@ZobsK

Жыл бұрын

Apt!!!

@patrickdavid2076

Жыл бұрын

We are called to be King and Priests and the old testament says especially of Priests to have only one wife. That is the reason a believer should be monogamous, but I think the question is, is polygamy a sin not is it good? Something may not be the best option doesn't make it sin(All things are lawful but not all things are gainful) lumping polygamy with sin is what is wrong, if anything Paul comes to say it is better to stay unmarried and he said imitate me as I imitate christ and that is why the Catholic priests are unmarried. I am sure if sexual lust was easy people would claim marriage is a sin and that in the initial beginning God created man for worship and that was the very purpose of man even before marriage and say that was what Paul meant. The balance is monogamy is God's preferred form of marriage but polygamy isn't sin, old or new testament and we can't say God is more stricter in the new testament than the old neither can we say God condoned sin(polygamy) in the old but now in the new it is now recognized as Sin(polygamy). The idea of polygamy also is why we have this hookup culture, because men can become providers to women they aren't married to and women can receive financial security from men that aren't their father or husband. Whereas polygamy would always ask the question so where is your husband as Jesus asked the woman at the well? u can't just be with a man cos nothing stops him and u from being married even if he already has a wife.

@theglobalzara

Жыл бұрын

@@patrickdavid2076 I don't know what you're driving at but I believe that polygamy is not part of what is lawful but not expedient. A lot of things changed when Jesus died on the cross. If you thoroughly read the Bible with the help of the Holy Spirit, you'll find out that many things the law permitted was due to the lusts in the hearts of the Israelites. Remember that there was no quickening spirit then unlike when the Holy Ghost came on the day of Pentecost to give power to everyone that believed in Jesus. I don't think any of the Apostles had more than one wife. That's the pattern God wants us to follow. There's no need to dig into an era were the Holy Spirit was not available as a quickener. Most importantly, the Bible is not a book to be analysed by men's philosophy. I wish you can follow the teachings on THE BIBLE with CCI.

@Polygyny

11 ай бұрын

Marrying more than one wife is fully biblical - here is a small (not complete) list of righteous men who had more than one wife Abraham (the Father of faith) Jacob Gideon (a hero/judge of Israel) David (God said he gave David his wives or will you conclude that God encourage him to "sin"?) Caleb Moses (the law giver on marriage and adultery) Solomon (the wisest on earth) Many other kings of Israel All had more than one wife - God Himself said he had two wives in Ezekiel 23 Polygyny is fully lawful - it's literally in the Torah in the so-called old testament - do your research before coming to incorrect conclusions about what God does and doesn't permit

@theglobalzara

11 ай бұрын

@@Polygyny Is it why your username is polygyny 😂😂? What you have said is true but not the TRUTH!!

This man is well learned and balanced

@danieldeluca4936

9 ай бұрын

Balderdash! I am not the least bit impressed.

Bones of my bone & fleshes of my flesh! 😅 We're believers, let's wisen up. Thank you pastey 😊

@meemee8202

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! God removed just one rib from Adam, which He made into a woman. Not various ribs from one man. How this is even up for discussion as christians is baffling.

@toyosibiyi

Жыл бұрын

@@meemee8202 😅😅 We're all at different stages in our walk with God. Some questions are expected nonetheless so as matured sons, it's important we don't mislead the babes in Christ.

Thank you, Pasteyyy. This is enlightening

Such balance! Thank you Sir!

That’s so true, thank you pastor.

Pastey ..you shattered this table .. thank you

Thank you so much Sir. This was enlightening

Man Full Of Wisdom 🙇🏾🙇🏾🙇🏾

This is pure truth! God bless you sir.

A true believer doesn't even need theological explanation to know that polygamy is not part of his nature. Thank you Pastor Irene!

@Polygyny

11 ай бұрын

​@@BuiltRightlet those who hate God's and men's nature continue in their ignorance

@scholasticbookfair.

11 ай бұрын

​@@Polygynyyou do so. Continue in your ignorance. The blood is off his hands, he gave you the answer now it's up to you. Give into your flesh or repent and turn away. 😊

@Polygyny

11 ай бұрын

@scholasticbookfair. I'm not ignorant - the Bible is clear on what is sin and what isn't - polygyny isn't classed as sin Just leave it at that: you disagree with God and his standards and regulations for both monogamy and polygyny and would condemn many righteous men in the Bible (who took multiple wives) while God would not and didn't. I think it's best to stick to what God has revealed than follow people's opinions on the matter thousands of years after polygynous practices were first established, understood and regulated by God Himself 👍 Peace

@beane777

11 ай бұрын

​@@BuiltRighthow does this relate to marriage ??

@beane777

11 ай бұрын

@@BuiltRight well noted sir

God bless you greatly sir! That very brief "expose" on Solomon is so underrated. Kai! 🥵🥵

Thank you so much Pastor, God bless you.

This is absolutely insightful sir. Thanks fo letting God use you.

Very true. Wise counsel. So profound

Very good analogy. Without a doubt you carry an unusual grace 🔥

Thank you sir for this crystal clear explaination.

This is beautiful.

God bless you for this sound exegesis. I can safely subscribe to this channel.

You preached it right, sir!!!

Thank you dear Pastor Ire

Bones of my bone😂😂😂😂. Thank you sir for always speaking the truth. Men are always looking for justifications for their sins. May God help us all

@Polygyny

11 ай бұрын

Polygyny is not a sin God at no time condemned any man for taking more than one wife - God does not regulate sin, yet he regulated polygyny in the law (Torah) Marrying more than one wife is fully biblical - here is a small (not complete) list of righteous men who had more than one wife Abraham (the Father of faith) Jacob Gideon (a hero/judge of Israel) David (God said he gave David his wives or will you conclude that God encourage him to "sin"?) Caleb Moses (the law giver on marriage and adultery) Solomon (the wisest on earth) Many other kings of Israel All had more than one wife - God Himself said he had two wives in Ezekiel 23 Polygyny is fully lawful - it's literally in the Torah in the so-called old testament - do your research before coming to incorrect conclusions about what God does and doesn't permit

Pst Iren you are teachings and biblical roots are sound. God bless you sir

God bless u pastor. It's very enlightened

Wow! What a short but sound teaching sir. May the Almighty you preach clearly, bless and keep you. Amen 🙏

Im so blessed to be under Apostles teachings. People should wake up oooo

Sir you're just too wise! God bless you 🤍🙏🏾

Thank God for Pastey❤. More grace unto you Sir

So thankful for my pastor, Apostle Emmanuel Iren🔥

Hitting the nail on the head gan gan😁 Kai thank you sir!

@patrickdavid2076

Жыл бұрын

We are called to be King and Priests and the old testament says especially of Priests to have only one wife. That is the reason a believer should be monogamous, but I think the question is, is polygamy a sin not is it good? Something may not be the best option doesn't make it sin(All things are lawful but not all things are gainful) lumping polygamy with sin is what is wrong, if anything Paul comes to say it is better to stay unmarried and he said imitate me as I imitate christ and that is why the Catholic priests are unmarried. I am sure if sexual lust was easy people would claim marriage is a sin and that in the initial beginning God created man for worship and that was the very purpose of man even before marriage and say that was what Paul meant. The balance is monogamy is God's preferred form of marriage but polygamy isn't sin, old or new testament and we can't say God is more stricter in the new testament than the old neither can we say God condoned sin(polygamy) in the old but now in the new it is now recognized as Sin(polygamy). The idea of polygamy also is why we have this hookup culture, because men can become providers to women they aren't married to and women can receive financial security from men that aren't their father or husband. Whereas polygamy would always ask the question so where is your husband as Jesus asked the woman at the well? u can't just be with a man cos nothing stops him and u from being married even if he already has a wife.

Thank you brother for teaching the lost souls the truth about marriage.

Without doubts, Pastor Iren is One of the Wisest Preachers on Nigeria 📌📌🎯 He is so wise!!!

@christianoyibo5882

11 ай бұрын

No doubt bro

@beverleytheglobalcaregiverforu

11 ай бұрын

😂OMG😢😮

This is Heavenly wisdom here.

Pastor Emmanuel Iren this is 💯

Pst iren full of wisdom.

Thank you so much, Pastey 🙏🏾 God will bless you for being a worthy example to us. May He continue to strengthen you in your walk with Him and your ministry. Amen ❤

Amen, more grace sir

Thank you Pastey Standing by the truth regardless of what people say!

@patrickdavid2076

Жыл бұрын

We are called to be King and Priests and the old testament says especially of Priests to have only one wife. That is the reason a believer should be monogamous, but I think the question is, is polygamy a sin not is it good? Something may not be the best option doesn't make it sin(All things are lawful but not all things are gainful) lumping polygamy with sin is what is wrong, if anything Paul comes to say it is better to stay unmarried and he said imitate me as I imitate christ and that is why the Catholic priests are unmarried. I am sure if sexual lust was easy people would claim marriage is a sin and that in the initial beginning God created man for worship and that was the very purpose of man even before marriage and say that was what Paul meant. The balance is monogamy is God's preferred form of marriage but polygamy isn't sin, old or new testament and we can't say God is more stricter in the new testament than the old neither can we say God condoned sin(polygamy) in the old but now in the new it is now recognized as Sin(polygamy). The idea of polygamy also is why we have this hookup culture, because men can become providers to women they aren't married to and women can receive financial security from men that aren't their father or husband. Whereas polygamy would always ask the question so where is your husband as Jesus asked the woman at the well? u can't just be with a man cos nothing stops him and u from being married even if he already has a wife.

Such a proper explanation on polygamy

You see one is being called the other one is having the ability to teach. A lot of people run after the powers but can barely teach. Thank you Pastor Iren. This is insightful and deep

@imhenrionlucky4918

11 ай бұрын

ẞd

Well said Sir, thank God for taking my mind back to "in the beginning" , let them keep dragging, the truth must still be spoken by Jesus true ambassadors

Truth gets most jabs .. ride on thou brilliant man of God...

God bless you, Sir❤

God bless you for standing for the truth sir. God bless you so much. More grace to keep defending the truth in Jesus' name.

God bless this teaching

Its how pastor Laju was admiring pastey when he was speaking for me.......whatever I do in this life, I must follow Christ to the latter and marry right

Well said Pastor Iren

Thank you Sir. The bible never contradicts itself. From Adam to Noah, these FIRST Patriarchs all had ONE wives representing Gods IDEAL template for marriage. Even though polygamy happened it was simply due to God permissive Will.

@AjijoBeatrice

11 ай бұрын

The first person in the Bible that married two wives ended up committing murder. His name was Lamech.

@Polygyny

11 ай бұрын

God does not permit people to break his 10 commandments - there is no such thing as "permissive will" - this is man-made lingo that proves nothing God never at one time said that polygyny is a sin and he blessed many men with multiple wives

@calebo6964

11 ай бұрын

@@Polygyny you're missing The entire Context and Message of both my response and the video posted. The Point is Polygamy is not God's Ideal Plan , its not the Perfect will of God. God created Adam and gave him one wife. When God destroyed the world with the flood do you think it was mere coincidence that Noah and his three sons each had ONE wife. That represents Gods Perfect will for mankind. Poly was just permitted (his Permissive will) its not God ideal plan from the very beginning. ✌

@gracesheya

11 ай бұрын

For me, polygamy or not is not wel dinied practice in the bible. Interestingly , what did God say to those who practised it? Remember, God walked and spoke to them. I dont believe its for everyone, those who practice it, will they go to hell after we lead them to accept Christ? Do they need to divorce some of their wives after they accept Christ as their Lord and saviour? There is not enough information to balance this discussion, maybe the omitted scripts would have given us more clarity. Is Polygamy a sin? Will Polygamy nulify a person's confession of the Lordship of Christ?

@Polygyny

11 ай бұрын

@calebo6964 I haven't missed any point. No where in scripture does it state what God's ideal plan is for marriage structure. Paul said marriage is a mystery which refers to Christ and the Church (household of God), yet Christ will be married to many individuals (polygyny) that make up the Church so it seems that polygyny is the actual ideal to follow your logic The fact is there is no "ideal" marriage structure given by God - he simply gave men a choice: some men want just one wife and some men want multiple wives/concubines, some men don't seek marriage at all - all these circumstances are valid before God and God does not respect one more than the other, except obeying the commandments of God, not human opinion on what God thinks or human opinion on morality and ethics

I love this man even the more. Young, wise, smart and full of God's word.

@danieldeluca4936

9 ай бұрын

God rebukes him for adding to His Word.

@josephokwute4830

9 ай бұрын

@@danieldeluca4936 please can you state the part he added?

@danieldeluca4936

9 ай бұрын

@@josephokwute4830 Jesus never said that Moses allowed polygamy because of hardness of hearts.

God bless you sir...this really blessed me 🙇

Thank you very much dad ❤

PAPA Iren thank you for such a powerful explanation on Monogamy, I choose to obey the words of God and follow the marriage of one wife 🔥❤😂. How much is too much 😂😂😂😅😅

@patrickdavid2076

Жыл бұрын

We are called to be King and Priests and the old testament says especially of Priests to have only one wife. That is the reason a believer should be monogamous, but I think the question is, is polygamy a sin not is it good? Something may not be the best option doesn't make it sin(All things are lawful but not all things are gainful) lumping polygamy with sin is what is wrong, if anything Paul comes to say it is better to stay unmarried and he said imitate me as I imitate christ and that is why the Catholic priests are unmarried. I am sure if sexual lust was easy people would claim marriage is a sin and that in the initial beginning God created man for worship and that was the very purpose of man even before marriage and say that was what Paul meant. The balance is monogamy is God's preferred form of marriage but polygamy isn't sin, old or new testament and we can't say God is more stricter in the new testament than the old neither can we say God condoned sin(polygamy) in the old but now in the new it is now recognized as Sin(polygamy). The idea of polygamy also is why we have this hookup culture, because men can become providers to women they aren't married to and women can receive financial security from men that aren't their father or husband. Whereas polygamy would always ask the question so where is your husband as Jesus asked the woman at the well? u can't just be with a man cos nothing stops him and u from being married even if he already has a wife.

@temitayoalumona

Жыл бұрын

To him that knows what to do a does it not to him it is sin. Everything that aborts the original plan of God for mankind it’s a sin

"Have they used poverty to swear for you" 😂🤣 Thank you, sir, for staying true to the Truth. The Lord uphold you in Jesus' name.

This message was powerful

Amazing Sir

Pastor Emmanuel Iren, as long as the authority of the scriptures stands, you're very right sir❤ And al those antagonizing you vua TikTok or wherever only are speaking to fulfill the lost of the flesh... The eye of their understanding needs to be flooded with light...

The truth must be told in this generation, thank you papa

@Polygyny

11 ай бұрын

So the truth wasn't told in the generations of King David and Abraham? Two of the most righteous men of all time - are you more holy or righteous than these men?

Thank you for this!

God bless you, Sir.

God bless you Pastey.

When he said, "Adam would have woken up to see three beautiful women".🤔🤔 Ha! Divine wisdom🙌

This is so succinctly put, this is almost exactly how my pastor once explained it too. Thank you so much, Pastor Iren. God bless you, Sir.

@ochaiogbe1936

10 ай бұрын

Hello @EmmanuelIrenlive and every member of his church; of course, I know majority of the people in the comment section are members of his church. I assume everyone here is interested in the truth amd mothing but the truth. I assume what is comfortable is not necessarily what you are interested in, but the absolute truth! I disagree vehemently with the ideas the pastor raised in this video. When Paul said a bishop should be the husband of one wife, he was not prescribing a general standard for Christians! IT IS IMPORTANT WE GET THIS VERY CLEARLY! If he were giving a general standard for christians, wouldn't he be classifying himself and Jesus as being bad christians, since they both were not married? AND NO, I HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH YOU COMPLETELY THAT IN THAT PASSAGE, PAUL WAS TRYING TO DISAPPROVE OF POLYGAMY. HOW DO I KNOW HE WAS NOT SHOWING DISAPPROVAL OF POLYGAMY? LET ME SHOW YOU! 1 COR 7 VS 28 ''if you do marry, you haven't committed a sin, and if you don't marry, you haven't committed a sin...but i would rather SPARE YOU THE EVERYDAY TROUBLES THAT MARRIED PEOPLE WILL HAVE''. DON'T TAKE MY WORD FOR IT, LOOK INTO YOUR OWN BIBLE AND CONFIRM IT YOURSELF! The part in that verse i quoted above, especially the part in capital letters show very CLEARLY that the reason paul told the bishops, and not the general congregation that they shoild be the husband of one wife is not because he thinks polygyny is unchristian, but because he thinks marriages have their challenges and a man with more than one wife will have more challeneges at hand to handle and the bishop being the bishop, will ne saddled with a lot of responsibility to the flock. So, Paul wants him to have as little distraction as possible and that's why he said a bishop should be the husband of one wife! He even said it in another verse in the same Corinthians 7. It says: ''I would like you to be free from concern. An unmarried man is concerned about the Lord's affairs-how he can please the Lord. But a married man is concerned about the affairs of this world-how he can please his wife- AND HIS INTERESTS ARE DIVIDED.'' Now, the Paul you know...I am not talking about the Paul I know, but the Paul you know from the 13 books he wrote in the bible, What kind of person was the Paul you know when it comes to the things of God? He said ''of all the apostles, I work the hardest'' 1 Cor 15 vs 10. And ''...I have become all things to all men, so that I may by all means [in any and every way] save some [by leading them to faith in Jesus Christ].'' 1 Cor 9 vs 19 -23 Acts 20:20 (NIV): "You know that I have not hesitated to preach anything that would be helpful to you but have taught you publicly and from house to house." Romans 1:14-16 (NIV): "I am obligated both to Greeks and non-Greeks, both to the wise and the foolish. That is why I am so eager to preach the gospel also to you who are in Rome. For I am not ashamed of the gospel because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile." These passages demonstrate Paul's willingness to adapt and relate to different people in order to share the Gospel and win souls for Christ. His dedication to spreading the message of salvation serves as an inspiration for Christians to be proactive in sharing their faith with others. Share Like Dislike Tell me more. Can you provide more examples of how Paul adapted to different cultures to share the Gospel? How can Christians today apply Paul's approach to sharing their faith with others? What are some other Bible passages that emphasize the importance of winning souls for Christ? Acts 20:20 (NIV): "You know that I have not HESITATED to preach anything that would be helpful to you but have taught you publicly and from house to house." Romans 1:14-16 (NIV): "I am OBLIGATED both to Greeks and non-Greeks, both to the wise and the foolish. That is why I am so eager to preach the gospel also to you who are in Rome. For I am

Thank you Pastey. Your teachings are always insightful and debunk misleading doctrines. I'm grateful for this ministry gift🙌

@danieldeluca4936

9 ай бұрын

He has been debunked himself!

MY FATHER MY FATHER!! 🔥🔥🔥It's always the soundness in your teaching for me. Thank you Papa!

@ochaiogbe1936

10 ай бұрын

Hello @EmmanuelIrenlive and every member of his church; of course, I know majority of the people in the comment section are members of his church. I assume everyone here is interested in the truth amd mothing but the truth. I assume what is comfortable is not necessarily what you are interested in, but the absolute truth! I disagree vehemently with the ideas the pastor raised in this video. When Paul said a bishop should be the husband of one wife, he was not prescribing a general standard for Christians! IT IS IMPORTANT WE GET THIS VERY CLEARLY! If he were giving a general standard for christians, wouldn't he be classifying himself and Jesus as being bad christians, since they both were not married? AND NO, I HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH YOU COMPLETELY THAT IN THAT PASSAGE, PAUL WAS TRYING TO DISAPPROVE OF POLYGAMY. HOW DO I KNOW HE WAS NOT SHOWING DISAPPROVAL OF POLYGAMY? LET ME SHOW YOU! 1 COR 7 VS 28 ''if you do marry, you haven't committed a sin, and if you don't marry, you haven't committed a sin...but i would rather SPARE YOU THE EVERYDAY TROUBLES THAT MARRIED PEOPLE WILL HAVE''. DON'T TAKE MY WORD FOR IT, LOOK INTO YOUR OWN BIBLE AND CONFIRM IT YOURSELF! The part in that verse i quoted above, especially the part in capital letters show very CLEARLY that the reason paul told the bishops, and not the general congregation that they shoild be the husband of one wife is not because he thinks polygyny is unchristian, but because he thinks marriages have their challenges and a man with more than one wife will have more challeneges at hand to handle and the bishop being the bishop, will ne saddled with a lot of responsibility to the flock. So, Paul wants him to have as little distraction as possible and that's why he said a bishop should be the husband of one wife! He even said it in another verse in the same Corinthians 7. It says: ''I would like you to be free from concern. An unmarried man is concerned about the Lord's affairs-how he can please the Lord. But a married man is concerned about the affairs of this world-how he can please his wife- AND HIS INTERESTS ARE DIVIDED.'' Now, the Paul you know...I am not talking about the Paul I know, but the Paul you know from the 13 books he wrote in the bible, What kind of person was the Paul you know when it comes to the things of God? He said ''of all the apostles, I work the hardest'' 1 Cor 15 vs 10. And ''...I have become all things to all men, so that I may by all means [in any and every way] save some [by leading them to faith in Jesus Christ].'' 1 Cor 9 vs 19 -23 Acts 20:20 (NIV): "You know that I have not hesitated to preach anything that would be helpful to you but have taught you publicly and from house to house." Romans 1:14-16 (NIV): "I am obligated both to Greeks and non-Greeks, both to the wise and the foolish. That is why I am so eager to preach the gospel also to you who are in Rome. For I am not ashamed of the gospel because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile." These passages demonstrate Paul's willingness to adapt and relate to different people in order to share the Gospel and win souls for Christ. His dedication to spreading the message of salvation serves as an inspiration for Christians to be proactive in sharing their faith with others. Share Like Dislike Tell me more. Can you provide more examples of how Paul adapted to different cultures to share the Gospel? How can Christians today apply Paul's approach to sharing their faith with others? What are some other Bible passages that emphasize the importance of winning souls for Christ? Acts 20:20 (NIV): "You know that I have not HESITATED to preach anything that would be helpful to you but have taught you publicly and from house to house." Romans 1:14-16 (NIV): "I am OBLIGATED both to Greeks and non-Greeks, both to the wise and the foolish. That is why I am so eager to preach the gospel also to you who are in Rome. For I am

Chaaaaiii, my love for you just went off roof. Meeeehnnnn, One Spirit, one Lord, one Father of all. I once curiously asked the same question some years ago. I said love Abraham, he married two wives, l love David, he married more than one wives. That's was my exact thought. So I asked, would it be a sin if peradventure a marry another wife. I said with all sincerity in my heart Just as Pastor Iren had said, the Holy Spirit took back to the beginning, he said l was the one who knew that it is not good for Adam to be alone and l created an Eve for him. Then the Lord said,, if he needs more than one Eve, l would have just created her. I am so excited that we have someone like Pastor lren in the Social place. Love you Pastey😊

Please keep preaching the truth sir. Let people keep speaking. They’ve been doing so since the time of Jesus himself. The truth will remain the truth.

So profound! 🔥

@patrickdavid2076

Жыл бұрын

So is polygamy a sin today? that's the summary?

Thank you very much sir!

Thank you Pastey ❤

i couldnt ask for a better teacher!

Apostle Iren's points are 💯 As much as this is important it is very important to understand Marriage very well, study Apostle Paul's teachings, where he painstakingly pointed that the bond between a man and a woman as husband and wife is taking as Christ Jesus and the Church, polygamous means that you believe in God who raised Christ Jesus from the dead and you still now believe in idols and in other gods, Apostle Paul even stressed this by saying that we know that there's only one God. Study Apostle Paul's writing to the Corinthians. Now, listen carefully everything Jesus taught and what His disciples taught was based on the plan of God before the foundation of the world which means from Genesis, which is the beginning, God's intent was Salvation whether Adam sins or not it won't change it, it can only prolong the manifestation, which does but can't stop it. So, when Jesus came and the leaders of the law asked him series of questions, He referred them back to the beginning before Moses was born (remember Moses wrote Genesis, so Moses knew the intent of God but the people's heart was so so so rebellious, he even communicated to them in types and shadows. He had to permit them with strict conditions, the law that will guide them, he did them good but it wasn't that good for them). Study the first two chapters of Genesis very well. Jesus emphasized that if their fathers had believed Moses they would have believed Him because everything he told them was concerning Him, Luke 24.

Thank God for his grace over your life and ministry,you actually nailed it by using your knowledge of the world of God ,more Grace for you sir.

@ochaiogbe1936

10 ай бұрын

Hello @EmmanuelIrenlive and every member of his church; of course, I know majority of the people in the comment section are members of his church. I assume everyone here is interested in the truth amd mothing but the truth. I assume what is comfortable is not necessarily what you are interested in, but the absolute truth! I disagree vehemently with the ideas the pastor raised in this video. When Paul said a bishop should be the husband of one wife, he was not prescribing a general standard for Christians! IT IS IMPORTANT WE GET THIS VERY CLEARLY! If he were giving a general standard for christians, wouldn't he be classifying himself and Jesus as being bad christians, since they both were not married? AND NO, I HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH YOU COMPLETELY THAT IN THAT PASSAGE, PAUL WAS TRYING TO DISAPPROVE OF POLYGAMY. HOW DO I KNOW HE WAS NOT SHOWING DISAPPROVAL OF POLYGAMY? LET ME SHOW YOU! 1 COR 7 VS 28 ''if you do marry, you haven't committed a sin, and if you don't marry, you haven't committed a sin...but i would rather SPARE YOU THE EVERYDAY TROUBLES THAT MARRIED PEOPLE WILL HAVE''. DON'T TAKE MY WORD FOR IT, LOOK INTO YOUR OWN BIBLE AND CONFIRM IT YOURSELF! The part in that verse i quoted above, especially the part in capital letters show very CLEARLY that the reason paul told the bishops, and not the general congregation that they shoild be the husband of one wife is not because he thinks polygyny is unchristian, but because he thinks marriages have their challenges and a man with more than one wife will have more challeneges at hand to handle and the bishop being the bishop, will ne saddled with a lot of responsibility to the flock. So, Paul wants him to have as little distraction as possible and that's why he said a bishop should be the husband of one wife! He even said it in another verse in the same Corinthians 7. It says: ''I would like you to be free from concern. An unmarried man is concerned about the Lord's affairs-how he can please the Lord. But a married man is concerned about the affairs of this world-how he can please his wife- AND HIS INTERESTS ARE DIVIDED.'' Now, the Paul you know...I am not talking about the Paul I know, but the Paul you know from the 13 books he wrote in the bible, What kind of person was the Paul you know when it comes to the things of God? He said ''of all the apostles, I work the hardest'' 1 Cor 15 vs 10. And ''...I have become all things to all men, so that I may by all means [in any and every way] save some [by leading them to faith in Jesus Christ].'' 1 Cor 9 vs 19 -23 Acts 20:20 (NIV): "You know that I have not hesitated to preach anything that would be helpful to you but have taught you publicly and from house to house." Romans 1:14-16 (NIV): "I am obligated both to Greeks and non-Greeks, both to the wise and the foolish. That is why I am so eager to preach the gospel also to you who are in Rome. For I am not ashamed of the gospel because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile." These passages demonstrate Paul's willingness to adapt and relate to different people in order to share the Gospel and win souls for Christ. His dedication to spreading the message of salvation serves as an inspiration for Christians to be proactive in sharing their faith with others. Share Like Dislike Tell me more. Can you provide more examples of how Paul adapted to different cultures to share the Gospel? How can Christians today apply Paul's approach to sharing their faith with others? What are some other Bible passages that emphasize the importance of winning souls for Christ? Acts 20:20 (NIV): "You know that I have not HESITATED to preach anything that would be helpful to you but have taught you publicly and from house to house." Romans 1:14-16 (NIV): "I am OBLIGATED both to Greeks and non-Greeks, both to the wise and the foolish. That is why I am so eager to preach the gospel also to you who are in Rome. For I am

Jesus was in the beginning even before the world was created. He gave the best answer that God made them male and female. God bless you my brother. Keep preaching to the truth. We love you so much.

You're a Great Teacher of the Word. More Grace Sir

@ochaiogbe1936

10 ай бұрын

@kingpaulofkandonesia360 Your pastor is not a great teacher. here is my response to one of rhe claims he made. Hello @EmmanuelIrenlive and every member of his church; of course, I know majority of the people in the comment section are members of his church. I assume everyone here is interested in the truth amd mothing but the truth. I assume what is comfortable is not necessarily what you are interested in, but the absolute truth! I disagree vehemently with the ideas the pastor raised in this video. When Paul said a bishop should be the husband of one wife, he was not prescribing a general standard for Christians! IT IS IMPORTANT WE GET THIS VERY CLEARLY! If he were giving a general standard for christians, wouldn't he be classifying himself and Jesus as being bad christians, since they both were not married? AND NO, I HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH YOU COMPLETELY THAT IN THAT PASSAGE, PAUL WAS TRYING TO DISAPPROVE OF POLYGAMY. HOW DO I KNOW HE WAS NOT SHOWING DISAPPROVAL OF POLYGAMY? LET ME SHOW YOU! 1 COR 7 VS 28 ''if you do marry, you haven't committed a sin, and if you don't marry, you haven't committed a sin...but i would rather SPARE YOU THE EVERYDAY TROUBLES THAT MARRIED PEOPLE WILL HAVE''. DON'T TAKE MY WORD FOR IT, LOOK INTO YOUR OWN BIBLE AND CONFIRM IT YOURSELF! The part in that verse i quoted above, especially the part in capital letters show very CLEARLY that the reason paul told the bishops, and not the general congregation that they shoild be the husband of one wife is not because he thinks polygyny is unchristian, but because he thinks marriages have their challenges and a man with more than one wife will have more challeneges at hand to handle and the bishop being the bishop, will ne saddled with a lot of responsibility to the flock. So, Paul wants him to have as little distraction as possible and that's why he said a bishop should be the husband of one wife! He even said it in another verse in the same Corinthians 7. It says: ''I would like you to be free from concern. An unmarried man is concerned about the Lord's affairs-how he can please the Lord. But a married man is concerned about the affairs of this world-how he can please his wife- AND HIS INTERESTS ARE DIVIDED.'' Now, the Paul you know...I am not talking about the Paul I know, but the Paul you know from the 13 books he wrote in the bible, What kind of person was the Paul you know when it comes to the things of God? He said ''of all the apostles, I work the hardest'' 1 Cor 15 vs 10. And ''...I have become all things to all men, so that I may by all means [in any and every way] save some [by leading them to faith in Jesus Christ].'' 1 Cor 9 vs 19 -23 Acts 20:20 (NIV): "You know that I have not hesitated to preach anything that would be helpful to you but have taught you publicly and from house to house." Romans 1:14-16 (NIV): "I am obligated both to Greeks and non-Greeks, both to the wise and the foolish. That is why I am so eager to preach the gospel also to you who are in Rome. For I am not ashamed of the gospel because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile." These passages demonstrate Paul's willingness to adapt and relate to different people in order to share the Gospel and win souls for Christ. His dedication to spreading the message of salvation serves as an inspiration for Christians to be proactive in sharing their faith with others. Share Like Dislike Tell me more. Can you provide more examples of how Paul adapted to different cultures to share the Gospel? How can Christians today apply Paul's approach to sharing their faith with others? What are some other Bible passages that emphasize the importance of winning souls for Christ? Acts 20:20 (NIV): "You know that I have not HESITATED to preach anything that would be helpful to you but have taught you publicly and from house to house." Romans 1:14-16 (NIV): "I am OBLIGATED both to Greeks and non-Greeks, both to the wise and the foolish. That is why I am so eager to preach the gospel also to you who are in Rome. For I am

The wisdom here is A1

God keep blessing you sir

Sound teaching!

Thank you Pastey

Just one woman alone is enough. The world is crazy nowadays! Godbless you Pastor! Keep on preaching the Good news!

@modrikisadopted6337

11 ай бұрын

Why do men look for women. One woman is not enough but manuscripts be content.

Thank you Pastey 😊

Pastor go on👏👏👏

Wow. Pasteeeeeeey ✨

Thank you Pastey ❤️⚡

Thank you sir!

My Pastor❤

God bless you always Sir

Thank you pastey

This is so powerful sir❤

Well said!

Right answer

Thank you very much Sir...short & understanding video...i pray every believer who gets asked the question can wisely teach the truth 🙏❤

@patrickdavid2076

Жыл бұрын

We are called to be King and Priests and the old testament says especially of Priests to have only one wife. That is the reason a believer should be monogamous, but I think the question is, is polygamy a sin not is it good? Something may not be the best option doesn't make it sin(All things are lawful but not all things are gainful) lumping polygamy with sin is what is wrong, if anything Paul comes to say it is better to stay unmarried and he said imitate me as I imitate christ and that is why the Catholic priests are unmarried. I am sure if sexual lust was easy people would claim marriage is a sin and that in the initial beginning God created man for worship and that was the very purpose of man even before marriage and say that was what Paul meant. The balance is monogamy is God's preferred form of marriage but polygamy isn't sin, old or new testament and we can't say God is more stricter in the new testament than the old neither can we say God condoned sin(polygamy) in the old but now in the new it is now recognized as Sin(polygamy). The idea of polygamy also is why we have this hookup culture, because men can become providers to women they aren't married to and women can receive financial security from men that aren't their father or husband. Whereas polygamy would always ask the question so where is your husband as Jesus asked the woman at the well? u can't just be with a man cos nothing stops him and u from being married even if he already has a wife.

@olawalejohn7054

Жыл бұрын

Very interesting to read...I will come back to this ur comment later. Thanks for ur view

@patrickdavid2076

Жыл бұрын

@@olawalejohn7054 I feel demonising Polygamy is wrong, for spiritual growth being unmarried is the route(Jesus, the apostles except Peter were all unmarried for the sake of the Gospel), the next level is being married to one Wife as that is what a Priest is required to have, but for whatever reason that is too much you are to be Polygamous(the constraint is you are not to marry unbelievers as what Solomon did) its' clear. Paul even said it is wrong to forbid to marry(I am sure we feel it is one wife) in Timothy and in Corinthians he gave his reason and that is than to be in lust. Polygamy will always have a higher place and standing than Fornication. If anything it shames the act of adultery and fornication cos it takes away the excuse, as u can marry the woman u have feelings towards and the woman can marry the man she see's as her provider(without all these modern day prostitution) and exposes the lasciviousness of an individual. This whole slay queen behaviour is because women aren't getting married, a married woman has a husband and a family she belongs to, she can't be twerking. E.g Regina Daniels before marriage and after marriage. She has more carriage because she is under a man.

@patrickdavid2076

Жыл бұрын

Simplest point is in modern day countries that are conservative sexually, haven't bought into LGBTQ, women are more decently dressed, least tolerance for sexual perversion are majorly the Polygamous countries(Middle East and Africa), making Paul's claim relate to this. 1Tim 4 vs 1-3 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, forbidding to marry... In Christendom where do u hear Pastors are Pedophile and sexual abusers? First thought is the Catholic church. It's one thing to sleep with a consenting adult of the opposite sex another to sleep with a child of same sex(we know one is more weird). Guess what they forbade marriage? The only reason you are forbidden to marry is blood ties, and the other isn't forbiddance but advise is unbelievers cos of the unequal yoke they pose.

@prettygemini3432

11 ай бұрын

​@@patrickdavid2076God helped David go to war and kill as well. Shall we say killing is not a sin then?