Jut that one chariot with a casual 606 kills at the end.

@fuchsmichael93

Жыл бұрын

Havent noticed at first but it just steamrolled aall the Infantry that the Katapult softened up

@Quetzietse

Жыл бұрын

And not a single model lost!

@nicklindberg90

Жыл бұрын

Peasant mower

@dr.squares8938

Жыл бұрын

Meanwhile slaanesh chariots getting 7 kills after 3 devastating flanks.

@alexandrejose8362

Жыл бұрын

Part of the reason Nagash killed everyone in Nehekhara was because chariot were just that OP.

No joke - that unit of chariots was the VIP of that whole damn match. Just steamrolled through chaff to keep them from swarming control points while staying under the radar so much the Bret player didn't even bother with them. If those things were hit by some of the grail knights and taken out early it would've broken the tip off TK's spear.

@Debilinside

Жыл бұрын

Not sure. Those chariots are not that expensive, and probably would wasted a lot of time to chase them down. If the grail knight is chasing the chariot it cant apply pressure elsewhere. This was the perfect application of the principle give your opponent dilemmas, not problems. (as problems have solutions but dilemmas dont)

@marnhierogryph2562

Жыл бұрын

@@Debilinside Yeah, hard disagree on using grail knights for that. But at least some yeoman would have seriously impaired their effectiveness

@kamikazekalamari

Жыл бұрын

@@Debilinside still better than doing absolutely nothing against them and letting them kill so many

@vitaliyred622

Жыл бұрын

nahh skeleton horsemen solo carried.

6:05 "Settra and his anti-large goon-squad seem to be serving..." That's going in the scroll!

6:05 “Settra and his anti-large goon squad seem to be serving…” *SERVE?! SETTRA DOES NOT SERVE! HE RULES AS THE IMPERISHABLE KING OF KINGS!* Also now I want a similar bit like that to what Thorgrim says in the IE launch trailer, but instead of “SHORT?!” it’s Settra saying “SERVE?!”

11:11 for those interested, the god of the dead for the Tomb Kings is Usirian, who rules the underworld and judges the souls of the dead. And who is heavily suggested to be Morr, the god of death in the Empire.

@consolescrub4031

Жыл бұрын

He's also given a few boons to favourite child Settra if I remember the video from Sotek correctly. In the final chronology of which we do not speak I believe he was possibly weaker than Settra given how they both fared against Nagash.

@Daniel_deez_nutz

Жыл бұрын

But Nagash fought Usirian and now rules the underworld.

@absolutelyyousless7605

Жыл бұрын

How was it implied?

@redsalamander9999

Жыл бұрын

@@absolutelyyousless7605 During the End Times, Nagash ended up devouring Usirian and claiming much of his power. But as Usirian died, Morr ended up vanishing at the same time. Which suggests that either Nagash consumed multiple death gods at once or Usirian and Morr are one and the same.

@absolutelyyousless7605

Жыл бұрын

@@redsalamander9999 Intersting. I still dislike the end times, so perhaps it isn't canon.

Grail Knights getting absolutely juiced didn't stop them from getting shot and magiced to death.

6:05 Settra does NOT serve

@Woodrow512

Жыл бұрын

Was looking for this one hahahaha

I can't describe how irrationally upset seeing Settra on a horse makes me.

@nickaretta1329

Жыл бұрын

His chariot has always been his worst mount lmao Due for a retooling.

@fruitmixyb

Жыл бұрын

@@nickaretta1329 It is the only Mount he is supposed to have lorewise. Settra on a horse is about as unloreful as you could possibly get. Tomb King royalty despise horses and view them as filthy beasts for peasants, hence why they use Chariots so much. Putting Settra on a horse like giving Ungrim a Great Stag mount.

@TheShagamemnon

Жыл бұрын

100% Agree- if you've ever read a TK armybook, its a really big deal that TK royalty never, ever ride a horse

@ReachStudioPro

Жыл бұрын

@@fruitmixyb Ironic considering the fact that chariots are pulled by horses.

@fruitmixyb

Жыл бұрын

@@ReachStudioPro It's not being moved by horses that bothers them, it's the idea of sitting on one that they find disgusting.

People were ringing the Overtuned! alarm with the new Grail Knights, but considering how much they cost, its more like they are finally performing to their price point.

@DALKurumiTokisaki

Жыл бұрын

It's campaign players using them to abuse the AI. Their world beaters if their allowed to run roughshod against infantry but against another human player they have to be used MUCH more carefully otherwise their gonna get focused down and die.

@Vahkitauti

Жыл бұрын

They also seemed to completely ignore the reduced model counts. From 60 to 48 and 32....the Settra hero squad makes for a decent example of the flip side of that.

@thisisaname5589

Жыл бұрын

They're some of the most deadly warriors in the setting, they ought to be overtuned. And very expensive.

@sandercohen9712

Жыл бұрын

No they are not. They are bugged, which is the result of changing their size from medium (standard for regular cav) to large (standard for monstrous cav) this completely screws up their collision behaviour and allows them to push through endless hordes of infantry, which they shouldn't and even monstrous cav can not. They are a broken unit and I'm glad the bret player lost despite deploying the units liberally In addition, it's just a poor trend that bret heavy cav now has 84 speed and can keep up with wild riders, with grails having a whopping 120 armor. Grails are bugged and overbuffed.

@DALKurumiTokisaki

Жыл бұрын

@sandercohen9712 That's more a mark towards Wild Riders being the most neglected unit in the series. Outside their mass (it's their mass+acceleration doing wonky stuff) Grails are performing how they honestly should have especially for their current price point. Also even while glitched their still manageable due to them being liable to single target nuking, getting shot to death, and getting intercepted and bogged down by other Cavalry and monstrous units. Their price makes them a big investment also (their more expensive than Chorf Bull Centaurs even after their nerf who were notorious last patch).

All that talk about the Grail Guardians and it was the humble Skeleton Chariots that carried that game.

Main issue I see was early on Rusty has large targets to engage and chose to double down on Grail Guardians instead of pulling in Grail Knights to engage them. He then proceeds to use said Guardians to engage large targets.

Turin being (rightfully) salty about the pump wagons is hilarious xD

What was that grail gaurdian play? Lads got slaughtered.

@bearistotle2820

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that is what really cost bretonnia here.

@nickaretta1329

Жыл бұрын

This is what happens when you listen to the community say something's totally broken and you go with that instead of testing it. That only worked with pre-patch Astragoth

let's have a conversation about that chariot unit with more than 600 kills, holy moly

That chariot is my hero. Channelling Rome Total War Egypt this game running over chaff

Can we take a moment to appreciate the awkward "Squiiirres" Pokemon reference 😂😂

@nathanbateman4255

Жыл бұрын

I loved that lol. Made me lose my shit

Not sure why, but players always toss their lords in unsupported. Generally, its better to win decisively on two points and lose decisively on one than bleed across three. If you crush a position, its far easier to leave a defending force and move to attack another area en mass. That makes the enemy respond by committing to an already losing fight or letting a second fight get lost. The Bretonnia player used maneuver effectively but not mass. Louen could have easily remained effective and far healthy for much longer. His effect on a position compared to two tomb princes are not the same. Basic principles of warfare still apply =)

@consolescrub4031

Жыл бұрын

I feel like it's definitely clearer for us with a spectator perspective at times especially since they might have been playing for a while with the impairment that can have on decision making. It's also sometimes just not cost efficient to support the lord when the support is almost guaranteed to die. This is sort of the case with Sigvald and Malus type lords where you can leave them unsupported to cause problems on a point and force your opponent to sacrifice troops into the wood chipper to slow them. That said, it's generally best to try contest all three points if only with a token effort on one of them. These players are far more skilled and experienced than me but if you don't occasionally threaten the third point with a skirmish unit or something the enemy will just take it and not bother to keep many troops on it so you're both fighting with your full force over two points but the enemy only needs to take one for the advantage while you need both which sort of cancels out the benefit of summoning in closer. There's also the benefit if you do manage to sneak the point off them where you're denying them score while reducing the amount of time you need to fight for the other two points. Naturally some factions like Dwarves and Cathay aren't as good at creating a serious threat of this as other factions like Slaanesh are but it's probably still worth sending a unit of horsemen or rangers to poke away at their point occasionally just so they have to keep some troops at home anyway. That's just my take though and t's largely dependent on unit micro and judgement of what units to send and at the right time which can be the skill difference.

Is no one going to talk about that chariot performance?! Chariots finally doing chariot things after so many patches.

Great to see that chariots are actually doing what they are supposed to right now.

Realy hope one day necrotecs get a snake mount.

I came for the 69 models. I stayed for Turin's commentary.

I'll tell you what, he might not rule, but you know goddamn sure he DOES NOT SERVE

All great with Bretonnia update, but why does Louen still not have his goddamn shield? He carries the bloody thing all the time.

@Chasik3

Жыл бұрын

If i recall corectly he gets silver shield on foot. It just the thing with lords on big mounts, that shield is not realy protecting his Gryphon.

@kamikazekalamari

Жыл бұрын

That tiny thing won’t do anything to protect Beaquis

That meme catapult just ruining the peasants day while the chariot cleaned them up

Hilarious, I think objective 1 wasn't captured until 9:56.

Nothing to see here, just my 2 favorite factions duking it out ❤

I do love the chosen of the gods in campaign, but do they cover their cost in multiplayer? They always seem to get swarmed on and they're quite a slow unit overall. Do they make up their cost?

boil the frogs and steam the snails my fellow brets we eatin good

how do they choose the health values for units? The numbers are so weird, they must have some fine tuning method to get 8448 hp or whatever instead of just 8500. This still holds true when you divide by number of units or look at single entities

Glad to see another Turin narrated battle. Cheers!

feel as though people are misusing the lance formation. Should be used to punch through infantry, not running into the chosen of the gods (Ushabti). Wasting some of that sweet model on model action

@Debilinside

Жыл бұрын

I think its simply a micro limitation of the player, but yes, game mechanically you are right.

Grail Knights instead of Guardians would have yieled far better results. I have no idea why he went with the latter; everything dangerous the Tomb Kings field is Large.

The old world in all its glory

If you have overflow gold in your first army, do you get supplies refunded? My friend said you do, but I'm not sure because I've never noticed. Is it worth leaving overflow gold or should I just buy a few chevrons?

Skeleton horsemen are a menace in this game. Tomb kings just literally summon legions of skeletons in the domination. I once had 20+ min game against them on this map each of my units were over 250+ kills.

Good to see Bretonnia isn't blatantly OP. It;s still early day tho.

Holy shit that's a peak chariot experience

Turin video, yes. Bretonnia video, Yes, yes.

Lance's out for the lady!

I'm not sure if bretonnian heaviliy armoured knights being as fast as Wood Elves makes much sense

@meta-erik3088

Жыл бұрын

Make wood elves faster!

6:04 my man he rules or dominates - not serves

6:07 SETTRA (and his anit-large goon squad) DOES NOT SERVE

I think I'd have preferred Grail Knights all around over Guardians in this matchup, due to their anti Large Bonus and harger charge bonus.

GG

I hate how princes and kings are able to ride horses like they are nobility and nobility of nehekara doesn’t ride those dirty animals. They ride chariots and don’t touch the peasant animals

For anyone wondering... Settra rules every damn day

Felt good seeing the stupidly overpowered Brets lose.

For ze Lady 💖

Awww just seeing Necropolis Knights makes me sad, they are such trash in comparison to all the other heavy cav in the game now

You know of all the jokes we make and all the crap we give, as a community, I've never once heard anyone give female characters shit for being female. We might be racist as fuck (kill all dawi pls) however there isn't a shred of sexism to be found and that makes me proud of all us freaks and nerds.

@petervinberg6823

Жыл бұрын

Eh i believe most people are generally decent. Joking about dwarfs or elves are all in good fun cause they dont exist. Women do and being all insulting to them for no reason is just low and pointless. Most guys realise this.

Tomb kings need a rework or a buff, they've stayed essentially the same since launch and nearly never get to use their big constructs, which are the main appeal of their army.

@Debilinside

Жыл бұрын

I think thats a general problem in the game. Very few faction can utilize single large monsters well. With all the shooting certain factions have they are just too vulnerable and most of them is rather slow.

@shiggydiggy6847

Жыл бұрын

The snake knights should be hitting harder at that price point, I think it would be fine if they were left as slow as they were, but statwise they are basically just demigryphs without lore of life as a support option. And their big monsters see no play, but that's basically true for every faction besides lizardmen. I don't what how to make khemrian warsphinxs and hydras viable without making them obnoxious with like overtuned healing.

@Debilinside

Жыл бұрын

@@shiggydiggy6847 They could fill the role similar to bullcentaurs, I think that would fit them quite well. TK already a quite slow and grind heavy faction. I think giving more missile resist in general to large monsters would be a good approach. Especially a construct, peppering it with arrows shouldnt really do much. You can still focus fire them down if you want, but then you will loose a lot of ammo doing so. Strong melee anti large infantry and heroes would be still a viable option. Alternatively you can give them more speed, thats why dinos work for Lizardmen. They are vulnerable but fast and hit hard, altough it would be comical to see a Khemrian wasphinx zooming trough the battlefield :D

Idk why CA thought buffing Brettonia was a good idea

@williammitchell6254

Жыл бұрын

Cause they arnt popular. And bretonia needed them for years.

@randomgraduate

Жыл бұрын

the buffs are good, Brettonia isn't OP

@Mandalore9999

Жыл бұрын

Idk why CA thought not buffing brets for so long was a good idea lol Grail tier units are finally cool

@michaelmorton6566

Жыл бұрын

Im cool with there buffs since i know they will eventually give some love to Tomb Kings especially for campaign

@DALKurumiTokisaki

Жыл бұрын

Brettonia lost this replay and one Grail Guardian didn't even get half their own value.