In conclusion: there is no difference. You're all welcome

@RedEye19

4 жыл бұрын

In conclusion: that’s YOUR unsubstantiated opinion. Everybody else, you’re all welcome.

@teop7887

4 жыл бұрын

@@RedEye19 ...uh, no, that's what they actually said. But hey, you're welcome 😄

@sojourn1544

4 жыл бұрын

It looks cool, and makes the vehicle sound better....and something else to spend money on.......which I have to much of anyway .....right!!!!

@B_HarTz

4 жыл бұрын

In conclusion: stock intake had more power over all of them... I don’t mess with intakes anymore and go straight to headers , muffler , etc

@Sleepyperformance

4 жыл бұрын

Thanx

it's funny how people think one horsepower doesn't matter, back in the old West one horse is all most people had

@AdamWaddle

5 жыл бұрын

This isn't the old west. $300 for 1 hp? I'll just go buy a used horse.

@johnbeer5242

5 жыл бұрын

matthew anderson 😁

@terryreyes1125

5 жыл бұрын

@@AdamWaddle lmao so true

@is.joseee6101

5 жыл бұрын

U want a scholarship to Harvard ?

@dannywalters1548

5 жыл бұрын

Idk if this makes a point. Still its hilarious.

I would of liked to see a baseline with the stock intake.

@177SCmaro

2 жыл бұрын

Then just watch the video again. The stock intake will make about the same power until you really start to deviate from the stock engine. Aftermarket "cold" air Intakes on most street cars are usually just for looking cool.

but...but...but...guys. brand X's pipe and filter is super superior to brand Y's idential pipe and comparable filter!

Cool comparison! I'm currently running an Airaid MXP on my truck (FBO+/Up/Rev tuned). Just FYI - The MXP is the only "4" CAI available on the market for my truck & definitely better than the AEM Bruteforce that it replaced. I recently swapped out the MXP filter itself for an RC2 Black Hex Series one. I really like the design of the RC2, it's non-oiled & super easy to clean also!

For me, it goes to show just how good intake design can influence the torque curve. Your first two runs show that the experiment is consistant by the fact that both curves sit right on top of each other for shape. Good job of elliminating experimental error. Now, that loss of torque at around 4200rpm on the third intake - that's around 5 or 6% along with a 1-2% loss lower down. I realise that you were being "diplomatic" but for me that would be a pisser. 5% at 4200rpm is NOT insignificant - that's a direct 5% loss of acceleration, right where it's best utilised on the road too. Remember, it's TORQUE that accelerates a car, NOT power. Great video, great experimentation, well put together, but guys ... tell it like it is. You've gained a subscriber.

Should’ve tested the $50 eBay special as well.

@josephtaylor1330

4 жыл бұрын

Its just a pipe so the one that had similar dimensions should make similar power with a proper intake. But truuue

The two aftermarket ADR intakes that made the most HP in Australia. Were the Harrop over the radiator intake and the Walkinshaw airbox intake.

This actually proves that throttle body spacers make you lose power. Good test 👍

Always fun watching the boys doing dyno shoot outs... I miss the badass 2000 though

Congrats on 150k guys!

Thanks for the video. Would be interesting to see if adding the spacer to the other two recreated the same dips in the curve.

Very good video, 20 years ago I was like you, digging every single power or exhaust. In reality based on the curve , it makes non significant gain . But in theory , yes. 0-100km/h by 0.001 sec. 1cm.

Love how diplomatic you have to be

Great video! I'm happy with my K&N intake.

This is a great video I would love to see one for 5.3 or 6.0 Silverado between Aem, air raid,banks and volant.

Well said, that’s why I watch your stuff. Always trying to be sensible in a hobby filled with emotional, quick to conclude hot heads 👍

Always down to watch a good three way video. 🤣

Guys, in my opinion, when the engineers design the intakes systems, they do emulate the real scenario. They are not thinking that we are running our cars with the hood opened. I think, to do a fair comparison of this kind of things, you have to emulate the real conditions as much as possible. Hopefully, that might do the difference, like the spacer between the throttle and the intake manifold to not transfer the heat to the intake.... Btw, I love the channel and the focus of the content. Good job!

@speedacademy

6 жыл бұрын

Oh totally, this is the best real world testing we have access to. Next time we'll try with the hood closed.

@reekorichh8919

5 жыл бұрын

the hood shud be closed so that the intake can create suction

Like that input you had in the end as opposed to some videos, articles, and forums, not a lot, just saying this is better than that.

Thanks for the comparison this was great!

I’ve been looking for someone that Dyno’s each kind. Great video

Would you be able to do a dyno test going back to the original if possible. Would be really Intrested to see what differences there are. I run a k and n factory replacement on my original set Up would be Intrested to see if it makes any difference as well.

Forgot to use provided stickers from the manufacturer, those add couple HP though.

S&b is the best looking intake kit, it seal all the hot air coming from the engine and it sound awesome.

I knew it is just engine sound changing option. But man, feels like u gain so much power when install it.

I think one issue with all of these tests is the hood is open and a big fan is blowing at the intake so it doesn't really represent real world conditions. I understand a dyno test is like that but this gives an advantage to these air filters vs stock snorkel type intakes. I would bet on the road with hood closed there is no difference and possible a decrease in horsepower as the stock intakes insulate against heat better and route the air better with hood closed my 2 cents.

@LukBacca

2 жыл бұрын

there is a video by engineering explained that just used aftermarket drop in filters and saw a 3-5% gain I believe in HP and torque using a k&n filter over the stock one

Great video guys.

I know it’s late but thanks for taking the time to make this video.

I remember a video where the guys installed long tube headers on a small block chevy. They had it on the dyno and were smashing each tube with a hammer bit by bit, until they were almost flat lol. Dyno numbers didn't really change. 🤣

Thank you for this video. Question, 2004 Lincoln Town Car, heavy-If I were to add a high flow fuel pump, ecu & tune, cold air intake, injectors=more power would it improve the mpg?

Why havent you guys tested with a Standard intake aswell, just put it in the same diagram :) ! Whould love to see that.

Installed k&n filter in my 96 Chevy. Don't feel more power but I have way better throttle response. And you can hear the engine breathing lol

The bigger the better But for a small to medium pod filter the 3A was tested as the best. We have alot of Aussie made intakes. That are Aussie car specific. Obviously the more surface area the better. Oiled filters tend to dirty up the electronic airflow sensor's in the intakes.

You guys are missing somewhere around 30-40whp in that tune with the mods that you have done, is this strictly on the SCT canned tuner?

@sleeper.simulant7327

4 жыл бұрын

Canned tunes are such a waste of $. A solid protune is worth every penny, significant gains throughout the power band and cleans up timing and fuel trims nicely

my intake sits just in front of the front wheels inside the bumper. no water gets inside. When driving the air would hit the intercooler and go towards the filter. so im getting true cold air. short ram intakes will pull in hot air from the motor and headers. so some people gotta do research.

Awesome video!

A. I cant speak for all cars, but I tested my intakes temperature before and after a SRI install and the difference was minimal. What I did notice was that the stock intake sucked up more water then the SRI. B. Before you criticize someone for putting an intake on there car, stop and think that it might be there first project or first time picking up tools if they even have any tools at all. It's a car part that they can afford and is super easy to install with basic tools. At least there trying to learn.

Any time you add a mod to an engine, you need to retune the ECU to take advantage of it. Additionally -- dyno tests are done with the hood open and the engine bay well ventilated by that big honking fan in front of the car. On the street, the hood will be closed and airflow will vary with speed and conditions. These intakes are all heat shielded but they are still drawing air from under the hood. Underhood air temps get as high as 170F on a typical summer day, and that's hot. Any HP and TQ gains you might get from these things could well disappear or even go negative in real driving conditions.

I don't even drive a Mustang but I really appreciate your thoughtful & unbiased summary at the end. You guys make great videos!

Run the test with the hood closed. See which one actually still pulls cold air in.

@extremedrivr

4 жыл бұрын

@@MaDDeX93 Not so. The K&N Filter on their Intake Systems are designed to act like a ram air system where air is sucked in. Thats why they are shapped like a cone. Duh dude!! Please use your brain.

@trudeaumustgo1920

4 жыл бұрын

@@extremedrivr thats not ram air lol. Ram air sucks in oitside air and is actually in the direct path of incoming air, not sitting under the hood. Already widely known cai are a waste

@extremedrivr

4 жыл бұрын

@@trudeaumustgo1920 A waste huh?? Check this video and see how uneducated you are. kzread.info/dash/bejne/qZmO1LCmebbQkag.html And you obviously don't understand how air flows because with a CAI like K&N for example, the air is comming from under the vehicle or from the grill depending on the vehicle and engine because the heat shield is blocking the under hood air. So your point is moot.

@screamingvteccc

4 жыл бұрын

The plastic would stay cooler

@trudeaumustgo1920

4 жыл бұрын

@@extremedrivr coldest air is out side the engine bay, where stock intakes get their air, not under the hood. Yeah lets suck air from 6 inches beside the header. You probably drive a civic and think you just gained 100hp

Good information Thanks

I for one am a big fan of the Mustang series keep it up fellas .

Why do this and not include stock intake results?

I loved watching horsepower TV on the weekends as a kid with those two older men. They were funny!

I have a 2020 Challenger RT and just added an AFE Momentum GT intake and I gained 3 10ths off my 0-60 times.

Bigger intake pipe doesnt mean more power, especially w/o tweaking with the tune/MAF/MAP parameters. Take a look at HP Academy's video on the Honda/Acura race team's Pikes Peak Acura TSX vid. They breifly go into detail about why changing pipe size and maf location could have negative results. The science behind it is interesting.

@speedacademy

6 жыл бұрын

If you go back to our dyno video on the Mustang, you'll see we tuned the 4-inch intake and didn't make any real gains over the stock sized MAF diameter tubing so our thoughts are you need to be making big power (400whp+) to see gains on larger diameter intakes like the Air Raid.

@vincevegacustoms754

5 жыл бұрын

This is why u do testing lmao!! If u keep beleiving companies..you are stucked beleiving what they say 😂😂 I allways made more power then aem intakes...

AIRAIDE IS #1.IF YOUR REASUNG THIS GET ON OFF OF AMAZON...TRIED K&N. BUT IT WAS RESTICTED.. AIRAIDE.. WAS AMAZING

Very good test

What about the stock setup?

I wonder if the dry filter filters better. Sometimes the wet filters like the kn don’t filter as well which you’ll see after running a used oil analysis.

Working on the same car I am with the same mods I’m looking to put on my car? That’s an immediate sub gained

Nice..been wondering about this

I also would have like to have seen a stock run. I'm wondering if runs (including stock) with the hood down would have any effect...even small?

It’s time for a new build series please 🙏🏼

@st3v3nGD

5 жыл бұрын

Ahmed_A5G e

Volant Close Box Air Intakes! Thats what's im running on my CTS

pls take my 370z and test stock intake vs ram air vs stillen gen 3 ultra long tube intake

I would liked to have seen the stock unit also

Great work on a thorough and unbiased test.

K&N should make a little scoop option somewhere so the filter is to get outside fresh air blowing into the filter enclosure somehow.

Thank goodness!, This guy actually uses real products and does a real test to show the differences. Saw a kid earlier try to portray something and he had it all wrong although well intended. Feels good to see people do things the right way.

Reading some of the comments and it cracks me up. But.... But.... But... But nothing there all the same. 🤣 Thanks for the video guys. Also I was going to put one of those intake spacers in but not now. Thanks again 👍

I know you guys are about good quality parts, but I would've liked to see a knock off eBay intake in the mix just for shiggles. There will always be people tempted by cheap parts, so I'm always curious as to how they compare. Plus, intakes will be the ultimate argument of car forums until the end of the internal combustion engine, so if it works, there's more fuel for that fire.

@P71ScrewHead

5 жыл бұрын

Scott Ryman, yo mean you're the cheap-ass who's tempted by cheap china parts..LOL Speak for yourself next time!! lol jk..

@whitehistorymonth3563

5 жыл бұрын

Just spell out shitz and giggles. Millennials are so damn lazy.

@Mikol_Billy

5 жыл бұрын

Dee EM boo

@jackrabbit7389

4 жыл бұрын

i guarantee the 39.99 chinese kits make comparable power as any of the name brand stuff the chinese stuff uses the same plastic and or aluminum mandrel bent pipes and the same filter materials. now the chinese kits probably dont fit as nice as name brand but they work just fine.

@Killing6661

4 жыл бұрын

@@whitehistorymonth3563 yeah says the entitled boomer that wants everything to be handed to them because they're old.

You should try the factory air box again the cold air intake

Tbh, I think the AEM curve dip is from the spacer usage.

I’m going out on a limb here and saying the stock intake manifold and heads are the flow restrictions, not the air intake. Try a 100mm air intake and bigger TB. All the intakes tested weren’t much bigger than stock.

Okay so if all three are minutely different but close enough to generically say equal, how do they compare to the stock filter? Good review btw.

Good work I enjoy these type of vids 👍

wont the metal heat shield around the intake heat up with the hood closed thus eliminating any "cold" in the cold air intake? it seems like a heavy gauge plastic would be better for something like that

When will we see the s2000?

Take the spacer of the aem the tube from the k&n and the filter/heatshield from the air raid and you get the best of all 3 .. Maybe gain another .2 hp

actually what these systems do is free up restrictive stock systems which bring down your intake temps due to lower air friction leading into the intake which you will notice on ur dummy temp gauge as my truck runs a notch lower than what it used too. cooler running engine creates longer durability to internals and combined with the proper upgrades will let the air pump to run more efficient which in turn makes it capable of producing larger numbers when real power adders are added

I think if you fine tune that AEM it will give you power. Coz thats the only intake that has different power curves..like any other part if not tune youll loose power at first but when tuned then youl see the difference.. Thats what i think.

I think it's funny that every one of these test they never close the hood to check the entire system and the effectiveness of the heat shield and or box used in the system.

@tboy2466

5 жыл бұрын

craigslue it’s to stop the engine overheating, the fan is not nearly enough to provide adequate air

@francojordan8048

5 жыл бұрын

Craigslue, you are right even they never close the hood on the Dyno test effectiveness of the air intake systems and their entirety to see which works best off course no is going to drive down the street with their hood open, what about air intake temps? Even though there's heatshield where's the cold coming from for a denser air charge. In my opinion it is short RAM intake that's not secluded from the engine bay, yeah you can give your products name's but does really serve it's purpose behind the name by or just gimmick and lies

@CarminesRCTipsandTricks

5 жыл бұрын

@@francojordan8048 You're absolutely right. I've only personally experienced TWO "true CAI" Intakes. - My 02 Mustang GT. The Intake Tube LEAVES the Engine Bay completely! The Inlet and Filter are inside the right Fenderwell. - My 87 Buick Grand National (GAWD I miss her!). The Inlet and Filter were fed by a Nylon Ram Air Scoop that mounted under the front Bumper. The ONLY CAI I've installed, that actually gave me a seat of the pants difference!!! The rest.... They look cool, they sound cool. And although they don't give an appreciable increase in Power... What they DO, is increase the *potential* of many of your other Mods. That one is definitely not mentioned enough! 😉

@sleeper.simulant7327

4 жыл бұрын

PoorManRC did your GN have a intercooler? Because if that’s so you don’t need a “cold air” intake, you want to lessen restriction. Intercooler is what keeps intake air temps down

@rentjeff

4 жыл бұрын

craigslue yup a guy on r/t lifes channel says they do the tests with the hood open and that closed box’s are the best people who do these tests need to close the hood then see what happens i bet there jaw will drop lol 😂

Just wondering if you have the graphs from the stock air filter set up as compared to these after market parts.

I think why the aem wasn't as good is probably the considerable angle of the intake tube like it's in an s versus the slight s for the K&N and the other although maybe it's the filter shape too cause such a big flat end can slow the air intake I guess

Would going from a 3 inch diameter intake pipe to a 4 inch make any notable difference. Keep in mind the maf port is only about 3.2 inches thoughts ???

Was there an audible difference? mostly between the K&N/Airaid and the AEM?

I insulated my stock intake and installed a KN filter all for about 80 dallors. I average 7 to 8 degrees cooler air going in to my engine than my buddies 315 dollar intake. Yes we had it tested in real world scenario, city and highway.

@marcushunter1406

Жыл бұрын

How did you insulate it?

The JLT is really popular too, ran a BAMA 91 octane race tune and holy shit the power gain was significant. All I ran was a JLT CAI and a BAMA tune. There are other times out there tht r significantly better.

The square airade is legendary

Might be a stupid question but i wanted to know why u get that high pitch whistle kind of sound when u floor the car with a SRI or a CAI?

Try the other filters with the spacer!

Best intake is a pipe out the headlight with velocity stack at the end

@KRIPP548

2 жыл бұрын

That's what all the pro's do because it is best.... NOT! LOL

It's great that you are testing all three but you should start with a stock air filter then go into all three. Also it's not so much the tube that makes the huge difference unless the pipe diameter changes significantly, it's the air filter that allows the engine to breath (paper element vs. cotton element) as dyno test have proven before.

@rt2255

Жыл бұрын

That would show stock was higher than all 3 expensive add ons lol

Driving on the road would show up differences between heat shield effectiveness....The K&N looks best due to formed plastic section. Some good mods there...MNAHGT Cams HHASSEEDX Pistons and a FDESST Manifold.......

Thanks, Rough Country is $100 cheaper than K&N kit and S&B. So this answers my question

I would have liked to seen the test with the hood down as the vehicle would be running true. With the open hood your not getting a real test between the different cold air intakes. You may have seen a different between them. But I don’t think it would have changed. But would have been good to see if it did change with the hood closed.

K&N filters makes the air raid filter and AEM. And more mullet mustang videos please.

Airaid baby For My Denali truck I buy every year new use to work for GM I used K&N 77 series switched and I notice on the top top end of the speedo and with the hood closed on the dyno airaid made 2 more hp all the way through the rev band.

Where's the Ass2000? We NEED ITB's!!!

@Kevin01SH

6 жыл бұрын

Ever since the motor took a dump, it seems they have moved on

Good enough for me! K&N it is! (It’s the cheapest price)

I have to review this technology further, yet being in the filtration business for both gases and liquids for +20 years, something that is sadly missed is the possible loss of particulate protection to your engine. After watching a KZread video by Project Farm on the effectiveness or lack there of (K&N style) of different air filters, it makes sense one can get more air through some of these hyped up filters as they allowed +1000% more particles through them as well. I guess if one is bent on more power, then buy a different vehicle or more powerful engine to begin with or do like some of you and sacrifice your engine wear $$$ for some “perceived” need of further power boost. Oh yeah, also being a member of STLE (Lube Engineers), even a small amount of particulate will go a long way to engine wear and premature maintenance requirements.

If you tested with Hood Clos3d would it give more accurate results?

My K&N is just fine! 13' Taurus

AEM is definitely the coolest tough so that is a win for AEM for me.

Thank you for the reassurance my ebay intake and I were looking for. Much love guys!

I have a 2010 5spd auto v6 Mustang...and since i cant afford a NEW 5.0 (DAMMIT) What CAI will let me squeeze just abit more power out of her or would a Tuner (like Bama) work better? If i do a CAI will i need to do a bama tune after install???

To be completely scientific, it would have been nice to test the stock intake as well as take the time to tune each intake and compare those results to each other. With that being said, these all follow essentially the same design, install in the same location, and implement similar insulation; it only makes sense that they perform nearly identically (within a statistical error rate to boot). Not a bad video overall.

@scottt7400

2 жыл бұрын

I concur. I would have liked the stock for a baseline to weigh the results. That said, the term cold air intake is kind of ironic, because they draw more warm air from under the hood than stock intakes. Hmmm...

@donquixote...

11 ай бұрын

​@@scottt7400Current stock intakes are CAI. These are all CAI relative to the old can & spout that used to sit on top of the engine. Why they decided to call them CAI vs HFI (high flow intake), IDK...???

@donquixote...

11 ай бұрын

Stock intake tests have already been done, with results available elsewhere. These particular kits don't require tuning, and for most people would be used as is. At the end they mentioned this wasn't a be all end all test. Unfortunately, in this life if there's something you're wanting to know you have to determine it yerself... And there's also manufacturers test results to reference (they don't do their testing for no reason). And either way it's not on your veh., etc.

I didn't see it mentioned, but were you doing multiple runs with each intake? Give the system time to adapt to each intake to give their best rather than running it with a new intake each time and the car has no time to adapt to the change in airflow.