Does Arm Pump surgery actually work?! - We asked Surgeon to the MX community Dr. Steven Andrews

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Does arm pump surgery actually fix the issue of Arm Pump for motocross riders?!
Dr. Steven Andrews is a is an Orthopaedic Upper Limb Surgeon. His practice encompasses surgery of the Shoulder, Elbow, Wrist and Hand including Microsurgery. Dr. Andrews has also been a long time Racesafe medical team member and has operated on maybe 60% of all Gypsy Tales guests (maybe a slight exaggeration) and is the reason a lot of riders have been able to keep competing at the highest level after severe injuries.
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  • @NeoMK
    @NeoMK2 жыл бұрын

    I gotta tell you, when i was riding i had arm pump on the first lap. One old school motocrosser told me to get a hand exercizer. So i did, and kept it in my work van. I drove a few hours a day and used it in one hand until I pumped, then switched hands amd went back and forth until it just hurt. My arm pump virtually disappeared and both my tendons and forearm grew in size. My hand strength was 100x better than before.

  • @domdequoy7132

    @domdequoy7132

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same here!

  • @MARCHOFTHESAS

    @MARCHOFTHESAS

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have always been told that makes it worse fuck it I’ll try now

  • @jamesdavison5755

    @jamesdavison5755

    2 жыл бұрын

    It works but don’t do it mid season or before a race the muscle building process will cause it to pump up When training forearm strength or grip strength put a timer on and do a rep about every second and just push the time further and further each time you work out

  • @slpn9t

    @slpn9t

    2 жыл бұрын

    I get it within the first 15 minutes then it's gone. I have a cappuccino before gearing up and a tosted egg and bacon roll.

  • @NeoMK

    @NeoMK

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jamesdavison5755 Yeah, don't do this in the pits or on the way to the track! 😆 🤣 😂 Do it on your off time. Make forearm and hand strength just as important as any other muscle group. The stronger your hands and forearms are the easier it is.

  • @iceythecube
    @iceythecube2 жыл бұрын

    Let’s get this MATE 100k!!! Guy brings us people the dopest MX content,on the platform! Ain’t nobody dropping the best of the best for this community better than gypsy tales💯

  • @SteveKiziak

    @SteveKiziak

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed!

  • @engineerinhickorystripehat
    @engineerinhickorystripehat2 жыл бұрын

    Hold on loosely, but don't let go .......

  • @mattbrown1336
    @mattbrown13362 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad an upper extremity surgeon was on the podcast, but this guy makes his living doing surgical procedures. I was diagnosed with Chronic Compartment Syndrome (C.C.S.) before the pandemic. My CCS tormented me in racing amateur motocross, it became a major issue in fight camps training amateur MMA, then it became a problem in my day to day life. It didn't matter if I was detailing cars, prepping body work parts, or even showering after the gym. I'd drop brushes, rags, sanding blocks, or even my body wash after an upper body workout. I refused to scar my arms before trying everything. Most hospitals weather they be teaching or standard medical care only approve of Grafton and Dry Needle therapy. If anyone read into blood flow and how to increase flow efficiency they'd realize how many procedures maybe weren't the last resort. Your blood serves your body the same purpose as oil does to and engine. Your liver is your filter. Now we can't toss in a new liver but we can eliminate some of the old blood by donating and doing therapeutic phlebotomies, forcing the body to create fresh clean blood that hasn't been run through your liver over and over for years/decades. Because it's an alternative type of therapy that nobody will spend money researching and it could harm the business potential for surgeons working with CCS in upper extremities, it goes under the radar. It never gets brought up anywhere. Since I've been donating every 8 weeks alone, my day to day symptoms have reduced significantly. Boston Children's Hospital wanted to release all 4 compartments in both of my arms. One compartment in each arm was double the standard rate of pressure at which they would recommend a fasciotomy.

  • @josefon96

    @josefon96

    5 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing your experience bro! My respect on how you handle it... going here through the early stages of Compartment Syndrome

  • @realdealcodysteele7952
    @realdealcodysteele79522 жыл бұрын

    So close to 100k guys let's get him there this week!

  • @daybreak6034
    @daybreak60342 жыл бұрын

    Your content is gold! So glad I discovered your channel.

  • @strangelove9608
    @strangelove96082 жыл бұрын

    I've never ridden MX, but this is my go to channel for everything motorbikes! Great interviews with amazing people . And the interviewer times questions and answers perfectly, for once a guy that asks questions and actually listens to the answers, please keep it up guys you rocking it all the way, pure genius 8) I'm almost tempted to try MX now ................................

  • @GYPSYTALES

    @GYPSYTALES

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah you need a bike brother

  • @themotobarn702

    @themotobarn702

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@GYPSYTALES I second that. Don't let fear, doubt, or "what ifs" hold you back. I only got into this 2 years ago and it's my true passion, building and riding!

  • @Mineratron
    @Mineratron2 жыл бұрын

    Very informative, enjoyed that. Loved the analogies, especially the sausage meat one. 😄 Makes sense when you think of it, forearms become pressure locked.

  • @tyllerhicksmx2016
    @tyllerhicksmx20162 жыл бұрын

    i have a friend who got it and it has helped him a lot. got it from the same surgeon that did all the pros.

  • @TheHypnotstCollector
    @TheHypnotstCollector2 жыл бұрын

    I thought I had arm pump... it's a nerve in the elbow area. My son is blinding fast but has the same elbow problem so never turned pro. I went to a chiropractor in 1994 and he did Wonders but it wasn't a cure. I still ride at 72..., a MX bike and a BMW touring elephant like thing. But just riding on logging roads, touring short distances can make my hands numb. So a nerve in my elbow hurts and numbness in hands occurs. But the Main Cause Is My Back::: It's the 4/5 th neck vertabra and the 4 or 5 spine vertibra. That's what was tweeked in 1994 and that tweeking Really helped me to this day.

  • @paulwallace7335
    @paulwallace73352 жыл бұрын

    I use too get arm pump really bad..then my mate who was a coach..Then one day training on a rough sand track and filmed me..the biggest thing is gripping the bars and fighting the bike all the time..changed my style gripped with my legs and loosen my top part of my body..and never had a problem with arm pump after that..it takes practice even standing on the pegs around big sweeping burms it all helps

  • @lukeflisak8713
    @lukeflisak87132 жыл бұрын

    I actually broke my arm and it swelled up after they reset my wrist. I got diagnosed with compartment syndrome witch he is explaining. Had the exact surgery he is talking about. Took 2 weeks with 5 operations to close my arm up.

  • @Dendyredyre
    @Dendyredyre2 жыл бұрын

    I've been riding for years, and always have extremly big problems with armpump. We're talking after maybe 2 laps. I've tryed everything you wise people can imagine. Had really good motocross trainers, good opportunities, trained alot off the bike, rode alot, tryed the gyro grip and that's the worst thing i've tryed.. When you train you're forarm muscels you're muscels get bigger, and naturally the room for free bloodflow gets smaller (that was the damn gyro grip) I eate right, slept right, did tryed alot of vegetable drinks, was pretty relaxed on the bike. I would say ive tryed everything, plus i did study alot. Here's the point. I did get the "armpump surgery" done. And this really did help, now I could ride 5 laps at full speed. It may not sound like alot but it's 150% more. And then i could better slow the pace down, and ride at 75% the rest and have fun riding. I've been riding for 18 years, but not riding no more bc sadly my body is so fucked up i can't walk, but thats another story..

  • @brandonchavez5224

    @brandonchavez5224

    2 жыл бұрын

    After the surgery did did the tension ever come back after some time?

  • @PinkuStyle
    @PinkuStyle2 жыл бұрын

    LMAO the Ikeya box part HAHAH so damn true its NEVER going back into the box the same way.

  • @Frogstoney
    @Frogstoney2 жыл бұрын

    A wise old motocross rider (my father) always bashed it into my head to beat arm pump don’t hold on to the bars tight and while your driving use one of those spring hand exercise things. It worked great for me. I think a lot of it is that people hold on way too tight. Treat it like your steering wheel in your car

  • @rotaryjunkie9502
    @rotaryjunkie95022 жыл бұрын

    Fixing my posture has stopped arm pump in my forearms. But my palms always seem to tense up and be sore. Is the considered arm pump?

  • @1armenduro
    @1armenduro2 жыл бұрын

    I could do with this surgery...... only having one arm to ride with equals major arm pump! 💪 😂

  • @quantumtechcrypto7080
    @quantumtechcrypto70802 жыл бұрын

    My arm pump is debilitating. After a desert race last year it took about nine months to normalize. I can’t race anymore it’s a huge issue for me.

  • @josefon96
    @josefon965 ай бұрын

    Came to see if there is any solution than surgery for compartment syndrom. I have it in my forearm due to tennis.... nothing?

  • @MrHabitat009
    @MrHabitat0092 жыл бұрын

    I’ve raced motocross for over 20 years and it’s weird I’ve only gotten arm pump once at hard rock back in the early 2000s. I believe it’s because I did a lot of gary Bailey riding schools growing up and my form and body position was on point and I think that’s why

  • @denniswilder3014

    @denniswilder3014

    2 жыл бұрын

    Loved hard rock and used to go to Bailey at central village in ct.in the early 2000.great memories

  • @MrHabitat009

    @MrHabitat009

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@denniswilder3014 hell yeah man.

  • @shanerr7252
    @shanerr72522 жыл бұрын

    i ride road and i started using my legs more. My arm pump is ridiculous i cant move my hands lol i had to do something

  • @uncoant4750
    @uncoant47502 жыл бұрын

    Arm pump? Raise your Levers. Also remember Radium B ointment? That worked a treat.

  • @DG85YT

    @DG85YT

    2 жыл бұрын

    100% raising levers did so much for my arm pump.

  • @goinhot9133
    @goinhot91332 жыл бұрын

    100% relax & use the legs all you can

  • @fraziervideo
    @fraziervideo2 жыл бұрын

    Not the episode for when I eat my lunch sandwich 🥪🤣

  • @haidarq.5947
    @haidarq.59472 жыл бұрын

    Strong 💪🏻

  • @brentnaylor6138
    @brentnaylor61382 жыл бұрын

    I'd be so much faster without arm pump

  • @kelliebrooks9094
    @kelliebrooks9094 Жыл бұрын

    I had a sheet rock business an put up the rock you have ur hand flat wide open holding board over ur head supposedly carpal tunnel sysdrum is common doing tje finish work tapeing put spackle on is now tension..the surgery is 50 50 on success...just ride one extra time a week an it will disappear...all riders get arm pump when they dont ride for little over a week...the big trick is using ur legs an hips to turn the bike which are muscle we dont use either if at all and inner thigh muscle to squeeze the gas tank...i put in a few laps using my legs in the proper way it was a little strange but it took all the pressure off my arms an hands it was truly amazing if u could do it a little an train ur atrofeed muscle a little a time then used be ready for the old 45 minute plus 2 lap moto on the GP CIRCUIT in euro....funny thing is the USA AMA national i think were pro motos were 45 minutes plus 2 also 60 s 70s...ride 2 times a week once isnt enuf...stretching helps to...u need to warm up jumping jacks jump rope then strecth u never strecth cold muscles...always warm up first just a little...i like jumping rope because those are all the movement an muscle each one ur about to use..plus jumping rope u train ur reaction..like if u need to clear a small jump u slam a jump face ur moving front an back on the bike...on a 450 ur just hanging on for dear life ...fork it dont do nothing take ur chances i dont know u...just kidding....be safe drinking water an some gatorade the week or days before going racing is also keep a little jogging...the initial arm pump is a stretch an lactose build up cramp hydration drinking plenty of water days leading up to a practice day or race....nerves dont help so the more u relaxed u are helps...i would skate a half pipe for 9 hours when i was a kid an my ham strings would go into a charly horse at the dinner table never drank any water or stretched out ever i was 11....

  • @lizzydog5728
    @lizzydog57282 жыл бұрын

    100% I FIRST STARTED RIDING TRACKS I GOT ARM PUMP. I STARTED RELAXING AND IT WENT AWAY?

  • @jdkillin8643
    @jdkillin86432 жыл бұрын

    massage guns before and after motos work wonders on arm pump, get a nice metal blade attatchment and your set!!!!!!!!!!! seems to get your arms ready faster as well

  • @cademorris3304
    @cademorris33042 жыл бұрын

    For my yz I just use bigger grips

  • @thv1432
    @thv14322 жыл бұрын

    Holy smokes, when I ride for hard for and hour or more straight when I get into my truck and takes about 10 to 15 minutes and I start to cramp. By the time I'm home charlie horses are so bad in my calf's and hamstrings. I have to either get in the pool or bath asap I'm going on 44. Trying to relax more is a part of the answer I'm in agreement with that. I have alot of surgeries from shattered and broken bones have titanium my left leg; left forearm; and also neck, and had a mpfl lateral release done on right knee. Doc, could any of my past injuries be causing these charlie horses cramp????. There getting into my quadriceps and hamstrings the pain is intensely high and almost unbearable.

  • @GYPSYTALES

    @GYPSYTALES

    2 жыл бұрын

    Search our channel for Jordan Sullivan. That sounds like a Hydration problem.

  • @panzerfaust7476
    @panzerfaust74762 жыл бұрын

    Arm Pump ruined my career. I used to battle with mike alesi back in the early 2000’s. I could only do about 2 laps before it pumped so bad I was barely hanging on. I never squeezed hard enough. I used my arms to put the bike where I wanted, thus I could do 2 hot laps before the pump, then I would just fade back. Knowing what I now know, if only I squeezed more (I had strong legs) who knows where my career could have gone.

  • @JamesPiccone
    @JamesPicconeАй бұрын

    People say growing your forearm muscles to reduce pump makes it worse but that's not true. Slowly my forearms got bigger and stronger , now less arm pump since I've been jacked 😉. "It's not the arrow, it's the Indian".

  • @stillsmokinr1164
    @stillsmokinr11642 жыл бұрын

    SQUEEZE THE BIKE WITH YOUR LEGS AND RELAX

  • @charlieschwartzman5505
    @charlieschwartzman55052 жыл бұрын

    If you're not hurting, you're not riding hard.

  • @michaelgrubbs1618
    @michaelgrubbs16182 жыл бұрын

    I am sorry. I have to stop here to understand. When you pump up and there's more pressure on the blood if you're pumping up shouldn't the travel way for the blood be bigger. Which brings up a volume problem

  • @matthewbaer4139

    @matthewbaer4139

    2 жыл бұрын

    The muscle pumps up which constricts the blood vessels from the pressure, think of it like putting a power washer on a hose

  • @kurtisasaff6661
    @kurtisasaff66612 жыл бұрын

    Ride more.

  • @sameer745100
    @sameer7451002 жыл бұрын

    kinda sounds like a to get another two to three years out of a rider

  • @bblake2757
    @bblake27572 жыл бұрын

    Best way to fix arm pump. Ride till your kidneys hurt then put on a kidney belt and ride some more.

  • @mixerguru
    @mixerguru2 жыл бұрын

    YOU NEED TO NOT GET ARM PUMP you can't put a switch and it ( the fascia has an electrical component it insulates I would not let this guy touch or diagnose anything, non of what he said is how the body works compartments, yeah staples , yeah Freddie Spencer had us do laps in fourth geat one hand on throttle drive the bike with your chore ... to think a doctor could fix something in your body better than your chemistry is hilarious sausage skin your body is electric talk about quackery i cant even ,listen to sausage skin Frankenstein you will ruin your forearms ruin ...

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