Doctor Who Does Black Mirror | Dot and Bubble (Review & Analysis)

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So Doctor Who just dropped "Dot and Bubble" the fifth episode of Series 14, which takes us to the social media dystopia Finetime, where giant slugs are eating entitled rich influencers as The Doctor and Ruby Sunday try to save the world from behind a screen. It's already a fairly divisive episode (like all of them) but is it any good? Well, as always, that's what I'm here to find out!
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  • @HarboWholmes
    @HarboWholmesАй бұрын

    Help support the channel! www.patreon.com/harbowholmes

  • @CobaltXMusic

    @CobaltXMusic

    Ай бұрын

    Harbo: hit the like and subscribe button Me who already liked and subscribed: *well alright then*

  • @vullord666

    @vullord666

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you for another fantastic review. I'm someone who didn't like the episode so it was interesting hearing an opinion of someone who did (and such a detailed one). Definitely the best ending of the series period. But that's kinda it for me personally. My problem is that I already know it's commentary. Heck, I'm black and I've live it constantly. So I'm stuck on the fact that it just... wasn't entertaining for me. The episode just seems to live or die by its commentary and the twist wasn't really a twist at the end for me. Without the Doctor or Ruby I didn't feel attached to any of the characters and heck I was right with the dot and wanted Lindsey dead before even the title sequences or that reveal. The most interesting part was Ricky and yeah I will say I was surprised he didn't turn out to be an AI robot there to lure Lindsey to her death, because he just seemed too perfect and also too Deus Ex machina (like he showed up at exactly the right time and Lindsey wouldn't have been able to even walk without him). But that I was it. I will say I appreciate how the episode went about the inevitable. The part of the dot branding the black guy as an unsolicited request and ruby as just fine is a nice look into systematic racism and the episode as a whole goes beyond the surface level buzz word racism/racist society has overused and actually gets into in/out-group homogenity and pure ignorance. I love how the commentary isn't just social media is bad, but specifically on the echo chambers it's led to (really unfortunate how the promise of the internet was an interconnected global world and yet it's led to such fragmentation as these platforms just try to keep their users complacent and happy). It's just the real consequences of living in bubbles and not just being disconnected from reality, but never having the opportunity to gain real cognitive function or move past basic BASIC natural traits like different=bad. So I do appreciate the episode. But I honestly like your review more than the episode itself (which is what I'm replying to say in my too many words way). It's shorter, more entertaining because I'm not following someone infuriating, and gets the message across clearly 😂. I just really hope this episode doesn't go over too many people's heads or gets oversimplified (but I know it will). I live this and know have to deal with this. But there's a lot of people in the world that could benefit from realizing this is just who they are. You don't have to be overtly prejudiced to fall into being complicit of systematic racism. Unfortunately we all have in/out group homogenity that leads to implicit biases and we're living in a modern hellscape that takes advantages of these faults and throws us in echo chambers to boost screen time all for ad revenue.

  • @Kesteen
    @KesteenАй бұрын

    Ricky's death just felt so brutal. All the previous deaths had been goofy yet horrific, but Ricky's just felt so... real.

  • @pamelawelch5955

    @pamelawelch5955

    Ай бұрын

    Heartbreaking. But in this real world lots of good, intelligent worthwhile people are destroyed because they are unsuspecting of the inherent evil in others.

  • @impax2634

    @impax2634

    Ай бұрын

    literally "you die how you lived"

  • @workflowwarriors47

    @workflowwarriors47

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah I was surprised how much of an emotional reaction it got me.

  • @greghawkins59
    @greghawkins59Ай бұрын

    I love the homeworld slug standing on that rooftop, observing it's destruction

  • @Comicbroe405

    @Comicbroe405

    Ай бұрын

    That went hard

  • @rinmixx

    @rinmixx

    Ай бұрын

    live homeworld slug reaction

  • @HuntingViolets

    @HuntingViolets

    Ай бұрын

    King of the world.

  • @jams7811

    @jams7811

    Ай бұрын

    @@rinmixxbeautiful reference

  • @thomashaigh6098

    @thomashaigh6098

    Ай бұрын

    "And I thought it ... good"

  • @bananatiergod
    @bananatiergodАй бұрын

    This is the first time in a while where the Doctor failed to save people for reasons that he never had any control over. Having him being forced to watch people walk to their deaths because they avoid his skin color like a disease is like a fate worse than death for him. It's dark and depressing and super impactful.

  • @alvadagansta

    @alvadagansta

    Ай бұрын

    I disagree. While Ricky’s death was brutal, the main character’s death was implied. Did she even die? Also Ricky was probably a racist also. Also the home world was probably less racist and less in-a-bubble, but they still all died. I’d say the main character got a way with a lot more than she deserved. Which doesn’t make any sense. So basically the theme is: racist people exist and they do just fine

  • @ryanj5993

    @ryanj5993

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@alvadagansta Ricky was the only resident of Finetime to not negatively react to seeing the Doctor, so likely not a racist. And they really drove home that the racists were going to their deaths. Like, *hammered* in for that entire last scene. Ricky is maybe up for interpretation, but the rest of them dying is presented as a certainty.

  • @bananatiergod

    @bananatiergod

    Ай бұрын

    @@alvadagansta The whole concept of the episode was showing the willingness to break social barriers, figuratively and literally, in order to do something right and just. Ricky was ready to save another life despite the risk, and Lindy proved that she's incapable of it when she left him to die, with her ignorance winning over her conscience. And the end makes it pretty clear that they won't make it out there. They're pampered, sheltered rich manchildren who never got any tools to survive life's dangers. The Doctor tells them he can help them make it out alive and Lindy and the others actively ignore him because in their eyes, their opinion isn't worth it. Honestly, good riddance because real life is never that karmic.

  • @ChrissieBear

    @ChrissieBear

    Ай бұрын

    Remember when the Doctor punched racists instead of crying like a baby? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

  • @bananatiergod

    @bananatiergod

    Ай бұрын

    @@ChrissieBear 1. Comparing 15 with 12 is pointless because their personalities are day and night. Might as well compare between 6 and 8 while you're at it. 2. The Doctor never experienced it himself. This is his first time realizing what it's like to he unable to do what he does best because a bunch of racist idiots avoid him like the goddamn plague. Like I said, this is basically a fate worse than death for someone who's bread and butter is saving lives.

  • @TheInkTank
    @TheInkTankАй бұрын

    You editing the Dot & Bubble display hub for this video was awesome

  • @HarboWholmes

    @HarboWholmes

    Ай бұрын

    Excellent work by my editor Duncan!

  • @SonnieCelanna

    @SonnieCelanna

    Ай бұрын

    1. It's very well done. Also gave me a mild heartache, Finetime Harbo is a terrifying concept (also sounds like a brand of sweets we'd have.) 2. Surprised to see the Ink Tank here of all places, that's a nice surprise.

  • @bencorbett562

    @bencorbett562

    Ай бұрын

    It's the Ben 10 guy!!

  • @Lowehart

    @Lowehart

    Ай бұрын

    Absolutely brilliant episode. It was solid NuWho, and I feel the Doctor's reaction and reply - that they can say and think what they want, as he remained who he always is... Was key for younger audiences watching, particularly young teens. Sometimes, people will hate you, for circumstances beyond our control, but we can't let that change who we are inside, no matter what is believed, or spoken out. All in all, the episode was beautiful, and possibly my favorite episode of the season so far.

  • @HydraDaLittle

    @HydraDaLittle

    Ай бұрын

    His subscriber count also grew from one interface to another :D

  • @joefreeman3087
    @joefreeman3087Ай бұрын

    Definitely one of those episodes that deserves a rewatch for a completely different experience.

  • @TreyMcDonaldAnimator

    @TreyMcDonaldAnimator

    Ай бұрын

    ☝🏽 Especially when you look back and see all the context clues that Pepper Bean has been dropping throughout the episode. It was there from the start.

  • @MichaelJohnson-kq7qg

    @MichaelJohnson-kq7qg

    Ай бұрын

    It took three watches for me. I basically missed all the racism the first time (which, I guess, just shows how isolated from reality I am), and the second time I caught the subtext... The third time, yeah. It's right there the whole way through and you're like.. how did I miss that.

  • @CyberSlammer2024

    @CyberSlammer2024

    Ай бұрын

    She could easily have been agist or just a snob. It doesn't mean that you are isolated from reality it just means you know you live in England where the majority of people in most places apart from huge cities are white. Don't feel ashamed for that that's just the way things are

  • @pamelawelch5955

    @pamelawelch5955

    Ай бұрын

    @@MichaelJohnson-kq7qg Took me three watches to get all the subtlety.

  • @mikevltg3

    @mikevltg3

    Ай бұрын

    Even watching the first time when she revealed they were all rich kids I went, "Ah, so that's why they're all white".

  • @aeloswindrunner
    @aeloswindrunnerАй бұрын

    My jaw absolutely dropped when Lindy betrayed Ricky and I still haven't picked it up. And unless you're already tuned into these kinds of red flags, they only really add up in hindsight. Also the slugs are great, perfect blend of camp and creepy that marks strong doctor who monsters

  • @dickottel

    @dickottel

    Ай бұрын

    mine didn't. I assume many normal decent people would do the same if it's their life vs. a stranger. people just don't want to die and they panic and will do anything to survive.

  • @shmikex
    @shmikexАй бұрын

    What's interesting is that the Doctor has experienced racism from humanoids before, but more as the third person. 10 with Martha, 12 with Bill, and 13 with Yaz and Ryan. But they have never have experienced it directly, which is why for the Doctor, it is a gut punch. And in that scene you also see Ruby's heart break, because she grew up witnessing racism first hand for her mother and grandmother. She want's to just say "screw these guys" but she sees the pain the Doctor expresses and she just breaks down.

  • @vaporock

    @vaporock

    Ай бұрын

    So black people are the only people in the whole universe to experience racism? Too on the nose for the allegory to be meaningful.

  • @HuntingViolets

    @HuntingViolets

    Ай бұрын

    I would really love to have him discuss this with Martha at some point.

  • @leonlaird_

    @leonlaird_

    Ай бұрын

    I'm sure at some point in time and space he has been to somewhere that discriminates against white people, black people aren't the only ones in the entire universe who face oppression. He has certainly faced it being a Time Lord. The gut punch is that these people refuse to be saved, I think the Doctor is above being so offended at a remark about his skin colour.

  • @toddfraser3353

    @toddfraser3353

    Ай бұрын

    The Doctor, is used to be in a position of authority. His companions are generally suborantant to him. So while he may feel for racism, he hasn't in his memory, had witnessed his authority being taken away from him like that.

  • @mr.randomguys7629

    @mr.randomguys7629

    Ай бұрын

    It's even more than that. For the first time ever the color of the Doctor's skin prevents the Doctor from being the Doctor. They refuse his help because of their racism. He wants to save them but they refuse and walk to their deaths and he can't do anything.

  • @NankitaBR
    @NankitaBRАй бұрын

    The more I think about the more I realize that the message of this episode isn't "social media = bad" as we thought before the episode and even throughout most of the episode itself, but "living in a closed bubble = bad". Because even though social media has the tendency to put us in bubbles so it is increasing this phenomenon, social media didn't *create* the phenomenon of social bubbles, we were doing this before social media or even the internet existed. Like Jim Crow in the US or the apartheid in South Africa, or even things like people mistreating and excluding Romani and Jewish people in Europe, this sense of some people wanting to create an "us" and a "them" is something that always existed, and we always have to fight the people that want to separate us and convince them that we can have a better life if we all live together.

  • @Fuges
    @FugesАй бұрын

    Harbo saying "skibidi ohio moment" gave me flashbacks to what happened to the discord on april fools day

  • @SkyPerson

    @SkyPerson

    Ай бұрын

    What happened?

  • @ksnotrollin.

    @ksnotrollin.

    Ай бұрын

    im intrigued

  • @drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303

    @drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303

    Ай бұрын

    Those were dark days indeed

  • @littlest1162

    @littlest1162

    Ай бұрын

    I am glad someone else saw the episode and immediately thought “haha this is literally brainrot culture” as well

  • @BabyYeti9901
    @BabyYeti9901Ай бұрын

    This was filmed on the uni campus where I've been living for the last 2 years. Think the main character and I have actually walked into the same lamppost

  • @NiallByrne
    @NiallByrneАй бұрын

    The twist at the end was genuinely fantastic. Really made the entire episode. This episode definitely deserves a rewatch with the knowledge of the twist.

  • @lasseehrenreich5502
    @lasseehrenreich5502Ай бұрын

    my opinion the first half of the episode was just okay standard Doctor Who AI turns evil but the twist that Lindy was willing to betray Ricky and all the citizens of Finetime are racist pieces of sh*t who would rather doom themselves than let a black person help them made it amazing

  • @SuperHeroStoriesUnlimited

    @SuperHeroStoriesUnlimited

    Ай бұрын

    Was it just me or was watching the slug monsters move sideways behind the people on the cameras funny

  • @chrisknight2631

    @chrisknight2631

    Ай бұрын

    @@SuperHeroStoriesUnlimitedyeah the way the people were caught while talking in the bubble was hilarious! I thought it was intentional though. Like, they knew it was funny when making it.

  • @chrisknight2631

    @chrisknight2631

    Ай бұрын

    I felt it was worse than racism, given the criminal comment because Ruby was in the same room as The Doctor. When you watch it again all those comments are suddenly SO obvious! That said, during the first viewing, the “I thought you just looked the same” really stood out

  • @SuperHeroStoriesUnlimited

    @SuperHeroStoriesUnlimited

    Ай бұрын

    @@chrisknight2631 yeah they way the bugs walked kinda fast sideways with their legs was so funny

  • @Melina_Evarblume_Seelie

    @Melina_Evarblume_Seelie

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@chrisknight2631 I wouldn't say it's worse than racism as that seems to water down the concept, it's just the harsh reality of racism in older days.

  • @Capuchinoosaur
    @CapuchinoosaurАй бұрын

    Ricky is probably best and kind hearted human character in show , and they kill him in most shocking and disturbing way. 😢😢😢

  • @ItsButterBean1020

    @ItsButterBean1020

    28 күн бұрын

    Bro felt just like the Doctor too? Which I think was the intention

  • @trekman10
    @trekman10Ай бұрын

    Justice for Ricky September

  • @chrisknight2631
    @chrisknight2631Ай бұрын

    The look on Lindy’s face at the end as she sails away - everyone is saying that she looks smug and full of contempt, but did anyone else feel like me in that the look on her face seemed more like she knew she was wrong? Maybe not about her views but wrong in that she should’ve gone with the Doctor. That’s what I saw, and I’ve rewatched it and still get that feeling.

  • @ko379

    @ko379

    Ай бұрын

    i got that feeling too! like maybe she was thinking "i dont think we're going to make it, i know he was telling the truth about his ship... but i'd rather die upholding the values i've been taught then travel with him"

  • @pamelawelch5955

    @pamelawelch5955

    Ай бұрын

    As someone who has seen that look many many times in my lifetime....No...people who are thinking have a questioning look....not smug.

  • @badwolf69420

    @badwolf69420

    Ай бұрын

    I saw it more as a "you underestimated me Doctor" look, because he didn't see how she already evaded death earlier, and she's determined to prove him wrong about dying out there. It was also kind if a knowing look that they will meet again. Of course, she could be wrong about that and the boat will quickly become Lindy's Sub.

  • @RayTheomo

    @RayTheomo

    Ай бұрын

    Definitely got a smidge of "idk, maybe i should let him help." But its just not strong enough to change her mind.

  • @frameddonut1056
    @frameddonut1056Ай бұрын

    I never really cared about how much this Doctor cried. I mean, it was something I found a little odd, but not something to stop my enjoyment of the show. But in this episode it feels *so* earned, and lands such a weight to the scene. What a fantastic way to end the episode.

  • @Smakka13420

    @Smakka13420

    Ай бұрын

    I feel that after all the therapy 14 does on Earth with his “new found family”, The Doctor can now fully embrace all his emotions. One moment that sticks out to me, is when Clara is taking to 11 in TNoTD, after the meeting with Paternoster Gang and Professor River Song, and finds out about his grave and Trenzalore, he starts tearing up, but immediately tries to just shrug it off like it’s nothing and leaves the house to go be in the TARDIS. But The Doctor crying isn’t something new, all Doctors from 2005 onwards (except War & Fugitive) have all cried, with 10/11 crying multiple times, and 10 just breaking down at points. One thing is for sure, Ncuti is talented af performer.

  • @dylanburton4955

    @dylanburton4955

    Ай бұрын

    I like that this doctor is more open with his emotions, he still has that personality trait where he tries to bottle things up but I like that he doesn’t shy away from showing his emotions

  • @Nikolas_Davis
    @Nikolas_DavisАй бұрын

    25:03 It's worth remembering that the Fourth Doctor was even reluctant to destroy the _Daleks_ - the ultimate xenophobes of the Whoniverse.

  • @HuntingViolets
    @HuntingVioletsАй бұрын

    Lindy understood death well enough to know she wanted anyone else to die if she could live. She just doesn't care.

  • @ItsButterBean1020

    @ItsButterBean1020

    28 күн бұрын

    Yeah I always took it that she was so used to not feeling genuine attachment that she refused to reckon with the idea her mother is dead

  • @MiguelGarcia-oj9ol
    @MiguelGarcia-oj9olАй бұрын

    I as a brown dude didn't notice everyone was white but probably because for the longest time thats how it was on TV

  • @Remake5182

    @Remake5182

    Ай бұрын

    Same, as a black person I did not care.

  • @gameburn178

    @gameburn178

    Ай бұрын

    Also depends on whether you are British or maybe Australian/NZ. Not everyone is American: there it really is true that we are becoming a nice shade of brown over the generations. My grandkids are technically bi-racial, it's very common now in Canada. Who can be racist when we're integrating at the marriage/grandkid level? But, that's Canada and the U.S., and probably Brazil and parts of South America; Britain could be different -- it looks mostly white to me -- especially the areas I know personally: Wales and the North.

  • @piyam5948

    @piyam5948

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@gameburn178 lots of interracial marriages in the UK no worries

  • @Tate-tc8rr

    @Tate-tc8rr

    Күн бұрын

    Same but I like how subtle this context was though

  • @mrdoctorgilmore
    @mrdoctorgilmoreАй бұрын

    Two things I appreciate about the ending, not only does re-enforce the type of protagonist the Doctor is, not a god or superhero but a "Doctor" who aids with the immediate life threatening situation and provides advice for a more healthy lifestyle going forward and it's up to the "patient" if they choose to take it. Also I feel this got right what Idiot's Lantern failed in regards to always having the moral high ground, with the Doctor trying to save them regardless of their prejudice but here the story has the maturity to admit some people are beyond or don't want to be saved, even after discovering all that befell them was of their making. At every turn the Doctor is locked out from saving them, it's lucky anyone made it out of Finetime.

  • @pamelawelch5955

    @pamelawelch5955

    Ай бұрын

    They didn't make it very far though

  • @StevenErnest

    @StevenErnest

    Ай бұрын

    The Dr. is still essentially a superhero, they do have failures, but I get your point.

  • @CineScarborough

    @CineScarborough

    Ай бұрын

    The only way it could be better is if the Doctor had a Time Lord Victorious moment and forced some of the Finetime colonists inside the TARDIS against their will.

  • @samuelcrows
    @samuelcrowsАй бұрын

    Another ep with that old lady, another ep better at talking about some social issue than chibnall and another ep with an orphan reference. Church of Ruby sundya: Ruby is a orphan. Space babies: the babies are orphans The devil chord: the maestro is q orphan. Boom: the little girl becomes an orphan. 73 yards: Ruby becomes an orphan once again. Dot & bubble: the mother world being destroyed makes everyone in the finetime planet an orphan. Ps: and another ep about mind where you stepping, weird.

  • @dominickeijzer5844

    @dominickeijzer5844

    Ай бұрын

    Maestro isn't an orphan? Their parent is just The Toymaker, who's imprisoned in a box bound in salt. This is like saying anyone with parents in jail is an orphan.

  • @tzarg

    @tzarg

    Ай бұрын

    @@dominickeijzer5844 yeah that's what I was thinking when I read that, cause she says in the episode that the Toymaker is her father

  • @samuelcrows

    @samuelcrows

    Ай бұрын

    @@dominickeijzer5844 she acts as the doctor killed the toymaker.

  • @Mooglatan

    @Mooglatan

    Ай бұрын

    Maybe Ruby Sunday was the REAL Orphan 55 all along...🤔

  • @HuntingViolets

    @HuntingViolets

    Ай бұрын

    @@dominickeijzer5844 It could be effectively the same for a child (growing up without a parent), and I think the Toymaker did abandon them at some point previously, but I'm not sure at what stage.

  • @emperorholocron8278
    @emperorholocron8278Ай бұрын

    One criticism I have of the episode is that after the ending when The Doctor is very clearly distraught over what just happened to him, there’s no scene afterwards where he processes it or where Ruby consoles him. The tonal whiplash I got from such a heavy and mature scene to just “hahaha kekeke bridgerton” was crazy…

  • @SonnieCelanna

    @SonnieCelanna

    Ай бұрын

    Honestly I think they should of skipped the 'next time' moment for this one. I think it would be fine without that, just ending on that heavy moment. It honestly is a pretty stark moment to end on to let it sit.

  • @j.i.nthenobody54

    @j.i.nthenobody54

    Ай бұрын

    @@SonnieCelannamoffat probably would’ve done that, not to glaze though

  • @CyberSlammer2024

    @CyberSlammer2024

    Ай бұрын

    I thought the doctor massively overreacted why is he so invested in these awful people. If they choose to sail off to their own inevitable deaths that's up to them we do have freedom of choice. Let them go he offered and they refused, for whatever reason it's still their choice however stupid.

  • @andynelzz

    @andynelzz

    Ай бұрын

    I think he's never been a minority before so he's only ever seen racism second hand so he's completely baffled that he's not able to save people that any other incarnation coulda saved

  • @CyberSlammer2024

    @CyberSlammer2024

    Ай бұрын

    @@andynelzz on virtually every other alien planet the doctor will be a minority 🙄

  • @FrayRS
    @FrayRSАй бұрын

    She can run normally later in the episode because she stops thinking about it. Walking is an instinct, she just thinks that she cant. Once she stops paying attention to the lack of arrows she can walk just fine - it actually makes quite a lot of sense!

  • @Andrew-up3dr
    @Andrew-up3drАй бұрын

    This is kinda what I wanted with 13 and for them to show how being a women affects the doctor and the situations they're in

  • @pamelawelch5955

    @pamelawelch5955

    Ай бұрын

    I understand. I agree. But Chibnall is just not a writer equal to the task.

  • @petra2578

    @petra2578

    19 күн бұрын

    They did this in the witchfinders

  • @Andrew-up3dr

    @Andrew-up3dr

    19 күн бұрын

    @petra2578 yh I forgot about that episode icl

  • @lasseehrenreich5502
    @lasseehrenreich5502Ай бұрын

    In my opinion the first half of the episode was just okay standard Doctor Who AI turns evil but the twist that Lindy was willing to betray Ricky and all the citizens of Finetime are racist pieces of sh*t who would rather doom themselves than let a black person help them made it amazing

  • @samuelcrows
    @samuelcrowsАй бұрын

    For me the strongest writing moment of the episode was the "thats voodoo" moment. Thats the moment you finally understand why lindy was being mean to the doctor and why everyone on the planet was white. A fine exemple of how doing a racism subject episode without being too much on the noose like Rosa was.

  • @MrSukram777

    @MrSukram777

    Ай бұрын

    I didnt get it. Thought she just thought it was an impossible idea that sounded too much like magic to be true.

  • @rozzgrey801

    @rozzgrey801

    Ай бұрын

    Rosa dealt with real racism, but this is a pantomime parody of imagined or perceived racism, the woke politicized version of racism that's used as a political weapon.

  • @lewiitoons4227

    @lewiitoons4227

    Ай бұрын

    That was the line that made me rethink all the other subtle jabs as initially I thought it was because they weren’t part of the local upper class

  • @samuelcrows

    @samuelcrows

    Ай бұрын

    @@rozzgrey801 Yes, rosa de dealt with real racism, but the episode was soo on the noose thats almost sounded like a parody.

  • @j.i.nthenobody54

    @j.i.nthenobody54

    Ай бұрын

    @@rozzgrey801this is subtle racism, which is more prevalent today. Rosa, while being too on the nose, was kinda doomed from the start in that regard because of the time period. The way racism is talked about in Dot and Bubble is more like it’s online, which makes sense. It’s not outright until the Doctor meets the finetimers in person

  • @RicPendragon
    @RicPendragonАй бұрын

    One thing I noticed and saw a handful of others mention, the puddle of blood was blue. These rich kids are literally blue bloods. But when Ricky dies, we get a red glare, maybe to solidify he isn't like the others?

  • @roguexxrenegade

    @roguexxrenegade

    Ай бұрын

    What does it mean to be blue blooded?

  • @hb4080

    @hb4080

    Ай бұрын

    ​​@@roguexxrenegade it's an expression for royalty and/or very very rich people who come from "old money" (where wealth is hereditary going back lots of generations). For example, there are some families in the USA who are "old money" because they immigrated there in the 1700s/1800s, coming from maybe a moderate background but were able to grow their wealth, because back then slavery was legal so they didn't have to pay the workers and could just rake in the profits. They became so rich, they were basically considered royalty but without a crown.

  • @carolinemcgovern4488

    @carolinemcgovern4488

    Ай бұрын

    I thought their blood was more blue-green then just blue but that's a good catch- Also I thought the red was the glare of the bot's lighting.

  • @RicPendragon

    @RicPendragon

    Ай бұрын

    @@carolinemcgovern4488 it was the light, but in film language, it could symbolise blood without showing anything, thus keeping the rating low enough for standard broadcast

  • @henrysteamy5012
    @henrysteamy5012Ай бұрын

    Somehow I have the feeling, this was not the last time we saw Lindy. It's the way how Lindy and The Doctor looked at each other at the end of the episode... It felt more like an "It's not over yet" moment. I have no idea what RTDs plan is, but the whole episode (especially the later part) felt like the introduction of a new villain. There is already too much talk about that character for a once-in-the-whole-show appearance.

  • @HuntingViolets

    @HuntingViolets

    Ай бұрын

    We never saw Sally Sparrow again, and she is basically the anti-Sally Sparrow. I am happy (narratively) with her going off to her death, and I'm not sure bringing her back would do much for the series.

  • @vullord666

    @vullord666

    Ай бұрын

    @@HuntingViolets I agree and her return would only do something if it's about atonement for her actions. She's awful and the latter half proved that but she's the only one who remotely considered his offer. It might be interesting to see if she realizes how horrible of a person she was done the line after killing someone to save herself and then not even accepting the help to stay alive because she's prejudiced and stuck in her own bubble. But I mean we don't need to see that.

  • @freebird6591

    @freebird6591

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@vullord666She might grow up to be Susan twists character/s via timey wimey antics.

  • @rockbandny
    @rockbandnyАй бұрын

    I love that the fifteenth doctor cries, i think it shows you can be an amazing man but also cry and vulnerable. Doctor is in good hands

  • @x5digi

    @x5digi

    Ай бұрын

    Men crying, Wow

  • @Comicbroe405

    @Comicbroe405

    Ай бұрын

    @@x5digi I mean yeah

  • @vaporock

    @vaporock

    Ай бұрын

    It's every god damn episode though, it's way out of character for an advanced lifeform like the Doctor to have such a poor control over his emotions so constantly as if he is the average human.

  • @bigblackdrummachine8250

    @bigblackdrummachine8250

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah maybe it’d be effective now and then but it’s happened in every episode so far💀

  • @bananatiergod

    @bananatiergod

    Ай бұрын

    @@vaporock He does it because he learned to stop bottling up all his sh*t like he did as 10 to 13. The 14th Doctor only started taking his first steps into healing from all that repressed guilt and self loathing, and the 15th is where he heals and starts embracing his emotions openly. The crying means he stopped hiding the pain he always felt inside but was never able to show.

  • @Nikolas_Davis
    @Nikolas_DavisАй бұрын

    There's a really delicious fan theory, that Finetime is ancient Skaro, and the Finetimers survive and live on to become the ancestors of the Thals and Kaleds, ultimately of the Daleks themselves. I find that hilarious; Lindy can't even walk straight, to say nothing of climbing up stairs 😂

  • @Remake5182

    @Remake5182

    Ай бұрын

    I mean Daleks are supreme, so it sounds less farfetched.

  • @carolinemcgovern4488

    @carolinemcgovern4488

    Ай бұрын

    I think that's an amazing theory! Like, I believe it. I also like the theory that the villain from Rosa came from Homeworld.

  • @Nikolas_Davis

    @Nikolas_Davis

    Ай бұрын

    @@carolinemcgovern4488 Yep. It also shows how the Doctor dodged one by not letting the Finetimers into the Tardis: we've seen what a white supremacist with access to time travel might attempt.

  • @CyborgCharlotte

    @CyborgCharlotte

    Ай бұрын

    Now that would be an interesting AU….. TO THE WRITING DESK! 🤪

  • @rhmb1019
    @rhmb1019Ай бұрын

    Boom has been my favourite episode of this season so far, but that ending scene in dot and bubble is the best we have been given in years

  • @gtc9966
    @gtc9966Ай бұрын

    2 episodes back to back where the Dr steps on something he shouldn’t…overlapping with 2 episodes where the Dr is barely in it. Bizarre sequencing.

  • @MaybeAnnatar
    @MaybeAnnatarАй бұрын

    I assumed the mantraps were from the outside woods and the dots have just intentionally let them in.

  • @MichaelJohnson-kq7qg

    @MichaelJohnson-kq7qg

    Ай бұрын

    They're in the homeworld, too - and they were there first - so that doesn't really work. I get the feeling the Dots just worked with existing lifeforms that are ubiquitous, and just made them bigger.

  • @Skyehye3113
    @Skyehye3113Ай бұрын

    Idk what this says about me but I watched the whole episode and I thought it was classism I thought they were being dismissed because they were not rich. Idk if that’s because I’m working class and I’ve experienced this but after I’ve realised it was about racism it was so obvious

  • @MrSukram777

    @MrSukram777

    Ай бұрын

    Thats exactly what I thought. As I said in an earlier comment I thought it was about them being rich until I watched reviews and feel depressed over not getting it. To be fair, I've only encountered very blunt racists in real life so far, like a man commenting about a black stewardess asking him to open his luggage: "Comes here from Africa and thinks she can boss around."

  • @j.i.nthenobody54

    @j.i.nthenobody54

    Ай бұрын

    I’ve seen a lot of comments like yours and I think it has something to do with viewer nationalities. A lot of the US viewers caught on the racism, but a lot of the UK viewers saw classism, instead. Just thought that was interesting

  • @MrSukram777

    @MrSukram777

    Ай бұрын

    @@j.i.nthenobody54 I'm not from UK but Austria, but as I said above I've only encountered very blunt racists so far in my country.

  • @j.i.nthenobody54

    @j.i.nthenobody54

    Ай бұрын

    @@MrSukram777 well, here in the States, some people are more subtle with it

  • @richardgurney1844

    @richardgurney1844

    Ай бұрын

    I'm from the UK. And yeah, my initial take was "oh the episode is taking a swipe at rich people ignorantly doing whatever they feel like" - a classism commentary, with a racism twist at the end. It was a FULL DAY later when it occurred to me that everyone in the episode was white, don't get that in TV much these days, isn't it considered racist or something - that's when I realized the episode was all about racism really I feel like an idiot for not even realizing at the time. I worry what it suggests about me. I don't identify as racist, but maybe there's some conditioning I wasn't aware of before :/ It's good to have stories that challenge the audience! :)

  • @astra3310
    @astra3310Ай бұрын

    I didn’t notice until the reveal at the end and I can’t stop asking myself how I didn’t notice something so obvious

  • @pamelawelch5955

    @pamelawelch5955

    Ай бұрын

    Cuz you're a good guy.

  • @icatz
    @icatzАй бұрын

    This is the first episode of DW where I felt so depressed and sad and angry at the end. Ncuti was amazing, I could feel his incredulousness at these narcissistic morons. Yet, he was still ready to save them, maybe even forgive them. This ep was a kick in the gut. Great writing, great acting. Lindy's part was wonderfully acted, as was Ricky's. Way to depress the fandom! Boom was very good, Dot and Bubble was great. Can we just forget the first 2 and hopefully get these types of episodes from now on? (Oops, forgot to add how much i liked 73 yards. So glad i didn't give up on the show after the first 2.... Awful stuff.)

  • @pamelawelch5955

    @pamelawelch5955

    Ай бұрын

    Nice to have these meaningful teaching episodes that gets everybody thinking, but NO....not all the time. Doctor Who is fun. Lets keep that element front and center.

  • @icatz

    @icatz

    Ай бұрын

    @@pamelawelch5955 I sure didn't expect that ending.

  • @icatz

    @icatz

    Ай бұрын

    Nor I.

  • @gabriel38g
    @gabriel38gАй бұрын

    I thought the slugs came from the world outside the bubble of the city (I checked: it's called the wild woods about 16min-20sec into the episode) and the AI was letting them into the city. This would make sense. The AI lets in the slugs, the dots lead the people to the slugs. Of course, if the dots can just make themselves into a bullet and kill people, why bother? And there's another problem. Wouldn't the AI already know that someone changed their name, and if it didn't how does it check? And then (more plot-holes!) If the people leave the city, going to the wild woods where the slugs are likely going to kill them... why would the AI even try to stop them? Clearly they are walking into a deathtrap. Even the slugs would probably prefer if these people came to their house. I'll try to end this on a good one. The actress playing Lindy is actually really good! I totally believed her when she said she couldn't walk without the bubble. Also: another great video from Harbo Wholmes! 👍😄

  • @MichaelJohnson-kq7qg

    @MichaelJohnson-kq7qg

    Ай бұрын

    The slugs aren't in the woods, they're in the city. Don't get me wrong, Lindy and her friends are pretty much guaranteed to fail immediately... But not because of the slugs.

  • @richardgurney1844

    @richardgurney1844

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah, it's a good story that becomes great at the ending - but there are plenty of plot holes if you think about it too much Doctor Who used to be less careless in that way

  • @CyberSlammer2024

    @CyberSlammer2024

    Ай бұрын

    Way too many plot holes. It was very confusing whether it was supposed to be Earth about 5 years in the future or whether it wasn't completely alien planet. It didn't look alien at all and why were they playing yellow dot bikini song which is from Earth a few years back made no sense

  • @tzarg

    @tzarg

    Ай бұрын

    @@CyberSlammer2024 well the yellow polka dot bikini song means that it's from our future then right

  • @CyberSlammer2024

    @CyberSlammer2024

    Ай бұрын

    @@tzarg yes but in that case it's very hard to relate to if it's in the future where people have settled on another Earth type planet. All a bit weird confusing and no context

  • @mikevltg3
    @mikevltg3Ай бұрын

    "I give them a week" "I give them 11 minutes" "...DOCTOR SAD!"

  • @qyntifex
    @qyntifexАй бұрын

    love your review and analysis on this one harbo :D this episode was such a great commentary and i think subverted everyone's expectations. so happy this series is bringing so much good writing and great acting

  • @R_SENAL
    @R_SENALАй бұрын

    This episode is a masterclass on making a point, and driving it home, sticking the landing expertly! Love this episode. Probably the best social commentary we've gotten since the Classic Series gave us the Happiness Patrol. RTD said a long time ago he thought the 4th episode of the series was his masterpiece, and IF Devil's Chord was moved up as many have theorized, then this would have been the 4th episode (and DC would probably have been 5th or 7th), and I can see the point as this is certainly something to be proud of, to have produced this!

  • @Woke_Invaders

    @Woke_Invaders

    20 күн бұрын

    Lol. "Masterclass" on being obvious from minute one.

  • @CritterSauce621
    @CritterSauce621Ай бұрын

    I noticed immediately that they were all white. But I managed to gaslight myself into thinking that I'd seen at least a few poc going by in the background. That was awkward.

  • @jaziybabe
    @jaziybabeАй бұрын

    It’s hilarious to me when people criticize stories for having unlikely characters when that is the whole point. The Great Gatsby and The Goldfinch are a couple of my favorites for this exact reason. It’s a character study of what people are capable of and I for one find it fascinating

  • @typonumber8939
    @typonumber8939Ай бұрын

    3 bangers in a row im loving this season

  • @stonecoldsbottlebin
    @stonecoldsbottlebinАй бұрын

    Good review, man. Easily my favourite episode of the series so far, probably my favourite episode for a good few series. Great writing, great acting - welcome back RTD.

  • @eepyJay
    @eepyJayАй бұрын

    Really enjoyed this video! Great work.

  • @Yourhatedquestion
    @YourhatedquestionАй бұрын

    About 10-15 minutes in I realised how this wasn't a "phone bad" story and suddenly something about this season and what it want to accomplish clicked and this episode, with full truthfulness, made me appreciate the earlier episodes more

  • @ko379
    @ko379Ай бұрын

    over on tumblr a lot of people are getting into arguments about whether ricky is a nice person or just as racist as the rest, i think it's interesting. he's kind of Schrödinger's racist. if he wasn't racist, he couldve been used to make the point that "breaking out of your bubble and educating yourself can help you improve as a person"; if he was, the point couldve been "even people who seem likable can be terrible". but as is, his point seemed to be foreshadowing (lindy has no gratitude towards her rescuers) and also maybe show how the finetime society repels any selflessness. this was a very good episode, though i honestly thought it got a tiny bit boring in places - watching ruby beg lindy to put down the bubble multiple times felt like it went on forever honestly.

  • @pamelawelch5955

    @pamelawelch5955

    Ай бұрын

    His end gets people talking and thinking. Win...win!

  • @therealpbristow

    @therealpbristow

    Ай бұрын

    There's a lot of binary thinking going around about Ricky. Myself, I would read him as being "on the journey": He's been raised in the same racist society as the rest kf them, but his curiosity about history presumably means he's encountered enough other ways of thinking that he's starting to break that down - as we see in his immediate willingness to listen to the Doctor. If they'd met in person, Ricky might still not have felt *comfortable* around him, but he'd probably have recognised where that discomfort came from and not been an a-hole about it. A bit like I was around gay men, circa 30 years ago.

  • @carolinemcgovern4488

    @carolinemcgovern4488

    Ай бұрын

    @@therealpbristow I think Ricky being on the way to deconstruction makes a lot of sense he's not 100% unproblematic yet (As no one is) but he's trying to break the racism down - and as you said he's not gonna be an a-hole.

  • @FireFalcon
    @FireFalconАй бұрын

    I feel like a 1 to 3 ratio of Doctor Light and Doctor Focused is very fresh, but just enough where it doesnt turn into a spinoff show

  • @thecondorflyght8964
    @thecondorflyght896411 күн бұрын

    Love the look at all those people who didn't deserved to be saved by the Doctor, from previous episodes. I would like to see more of the dark side of the 15th Doctor. 9 had his angry PTSD, 10 had the idea of rewriting time to suit himself. They could have the opposite of the Davros scene, where Davros says "Think of all those who died in your name"; showing all the people he lost. They could have someone say "Think of all those who didn't deserve to be saved" and have a montage of characters like Lindy, Rixton, that council worker etc. I think what they should do for 15 is have him turn his back on people over time, feeling that they aren't worth saving. His moment of darkness could be like in the Puss in Boots movie, where Humpty Dumpty asks for Puss to save him, and he just says "Save yourself". The Doctor could do that with a bad human. Eventually, he starts to engineer situations, and is selective about who he rescues. Like what if at the last second of Voyage of the Damned, he teleports Astrid into Rixton's position, and vice versa. He does this far too much with people he encounters. As if he is writing things the way he wants to write them.

  • @IreneWY
    @IreneWYАй бұрын

    Apparently the original idea predates black mirror

  • @pamelawelch5955

    @pamelawelch5955

    Ай бұрын

    And apparently over the intervening years it became better than it probably would have been back then.

  • @CyborgCharlotte

    @CyborgCharlotte

    Ай бұрын

    @@pamelawelch5955Sometimes ideas are like fine wine or cheese. You gotta let them ferment a bit first

  • @bigkevin579
    @bigkevin57925 күн бұрын

    This was the first time I didn't mind the Doctor not saving everyone. They made their choice not to receive help.

  • @RicPendragon
    @RicPendragonАй бұрын

    Honestly, this was one of my favourite Doctor-Lite episodes, and I really hope Ncuti gets a BAFTA nom for his final breakdown, the lip quiver, the spit when he screams, it's just so visceral and real. And Ricky September, I was waiting for that twist too....only to be heartbroken by the end. The one person worth saving. So well written and performed.

  • @djalland1
    @djalland1Ай бұрын

    It's been a long time since I found myself thinking so deeply about an episode for days after watching it. I enjoyed it throughout, but that ending and the realisation that, as a white man, I had missed all of the obvious clues throughout utterly floored me. Just outstanding.

  • @KingKhanAbz
    @KingKhanAbzАй бұрын

    I immediately noticed the prejudice in Fine Time 😂

  • @MichaelJohnson-kq7qg

    @MichaelJohnson-kq7qg

    Ай бұрын

    I really didn't. I felt the 'off', but couldn't pinpoint it.

  • @RayTheomo
    @RayTheomoАй бұрын

    20:35 this reminds me of that weird mansion psychic episode with Matt Smith. At the end, The Doctor goes out of his way to save the monster. This episode is consistent with that. Even when they dont deserve it, The Doctor saves anyone he can. Even the monsters.

  • @spitzsobe
    @spitzsobeАй бұрын

    I love how Harbo's bubble avatars subscriber count keeps going up during the video.

  • @conkubar4029
    @conkubar4029Ай бұрын

    when i first saw the slugs it immediately reminded me of ricky gervais' doctor who role in extras

  • @AuzzieDonkey
    @AuzzieDonkeyАй бұрын

    How does everyone feel about the whole racism situation, do you reckon everyone should of notice from the get go? Along the way with the hints or not until it was all blurted out at the end? As one who didn't notice at all, I kinda like that I didn't as I took it as a realistic geographical community kinda like Poland where almost their entire populace is made up of people with a singular skin tone.

  • @namename9998

    @namename9998

    Ай бұрын

    I think most didnt see racism but theyre probably not going to comment because its usually the people who see problems in everything who are perpetually online. Some people were thinking this was classist.

  • @AuzzieDonkey

    @AuzzieDonkey

    Ай бұрын

    @@namename9998 100% Classist, almost private schoolers towards public folk. Game off major Ja'ime vibes.

  • @thejither

    @thejither

    Ай бұрын

    Noticed it when Lindy said she thought it was another guy who contacted her earlier. Or rather, noticed that that was likely what they were going for. However, I'm pretty sure the "voodoo" and "contamination" lines were late additions to the script, because RTD or someone else figured out that without being more explicit about it, most people won't realize what they wanted them to realize. Because other than the "you all look the same" line (and even that one is arguable), there's nothing there that is inherently racist as opposed to other kinds of discrimination - or in most cases even just general distrust of someone outside your bubble. The system marking the Doctor as "unsolicited" could simply be because, well, he is? When did "unsolicited" suddenly start meaning "wrong skin color"? Lindy's disgusted reaction could (and, more realistically, would) simply be the simple reaction to getting some intrusive spammer harassing you. It's not hard to figure out why Ruby *isn't* marked "unsolicited" and is (somewhat) accepted by Lindy, when it's their second attempt to contact her: Ruby has a cover story; and the Doctor has things like the psychic paper to get past such authentication systems. It's not unreasonable to assume that they simply hacked their way past that system in one way or another. And yeah, all of the rest could just as well be classism - or general xenophobia - or whatever kind of discrimination you want. Seeing it as inherently racist just shows a different kind of bias - about how you, or people around you, are mostly discriminated. People not noticing that 20 people are white when they live in a country where, say, 97 out of 100 people are white - isn't bias. Expecting them to notice it... is.

  • @namename9998

    @namename9998

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@thejither Saying something is voodoo is the same as saying something is magic or witchcraft. Saying something is contaminated doesnt mean its about color. Germaphobes say stuff is contaminated without it having to do with color, religion or anything else. Looking the same isnt ist because dogs/cats/fish of the same breed all look the same to most people but no one gets upset when they say that. Unless someone has distinguishing features they will blend in with people who look the same and that goes for all colors. Werent the dots responsible for what people saw? If they were responsible for the unsolicited notice then wouldnt the dots be ist not the people?

  • @Domihork
    @DomihorkАй бұрын

    Honestly, I had trouble accepting that the racism in the episode is supposed to be somehow "obvious" (even on second watch) because most of those interactions could have other explanations (like for example Lindy dismissing the Doctor at first, because he scares her with danger but then not dismissing Ruby because she pretends to be from Finetime; or "you're not one of us" could also mean that he's not from Finetime). I'm also a bit allergic to people saying that they're CLEARLY racist because they're all white - all-white communities still exist and it's not because of racism, it's just how the demographic naturally evolved. But when you pointed out that the Doctor had a warning around his screen while Ruby didn't, that's what finally made it click for me, thanks! Plus the comparison between Ricky and the Doctor and how Lindy treated them differently. I also read someone's comment elsewhere that there was no reason for Finetime to be TARDIS-proof other than the Doctor being black which is honestly quite horrific.

  • @GerryCasts
    @GerryCastsАй бұрын

    S tier for my tastes, so dark, unpredictable, and satisfying. Better than boom imo.

  • @superkid801
    @superkid801Ай бұрын

    Excellent video. I enjoyed the episode. The look and design of the episode was good, had a 70s vibe with the color in the bubble. What a reveal the episode showed at the end. So good definitely an A!

  • @Comicbroe405
    @Comicbroe405Ай бұрын

    I'm looking forward to this review. Seen all sorts of takes from this being some folks' surprise fav to smtg mid to just bad. Personally think it would've been an alright ep if not for the memorable ending.

  • @dylanlarge11
    @dylanlarge11Ай бұрын

    I was so engrossed in the episode, I didn't notice until the end!

  • @danielcaswell6273
    @danielcaswell6273Ай бұрын

    Really enjoyed the last 3 episodes. Always love ur analysis of the episodes because u actually talk about the writing unlike a lot of other channels, with ur own personal interpretation. Although, I do think that this episodes commentary could be seen as fairly surface level if it isn’t given much thought, which is gonna be a lot of the audience.

  • @daver9819
    @daver9819Ай бұрын

    I half expected a Slurm reference somewhere in the episode.

  • @DriverHenryWho3245
    @DriverHenryWho3245Ай бұрын

    Fantastic intro! 😆

  • @valentinadevogueofficialx
    @valentinadevogueofficialxАй бұрын

    Yk the song in Ep 2 has been correct, there HAS been a twist at the end of every episode.

  • @akshaytrayner1960
    @akshaytrayner1960Ай бұрын

    Great review

  • @dougsfilmtv9810
    @dougsfilmtv9810Ай бұрын

    Good review of Dot and Bubble! I will say when I first saw this, I didn't get the ending and I found it confusing but, after watching your review now I get the ending and I do agree what you said.

  • @CyborgCharlotte
    @CyborgCharlotteАй бұрын

    I’ll admit, I was expecting an “Oregon Trail” reference at 24:12 “You have died of dysentery”

  • @MrFancyDragon
    @MrFancyDragonАй бұрын

    I will die on this hill with the episode being one of RTDs best in this new era It’s top tier Doctor Who that you can show to anyone and my god Justice for Ricky September!!!

  • @tomski120

    @tomski120

    Ай бұрын

    Where shall I send the wreath 😆

  • @JoshWiniberg

    @JoshWiniberg

    Ай бұрын

    First watch made me think it's a solid, above average mid-season episode. But the more I thought about it the more I liked it, and after the second watch I reckon it's one of RTD's best episodes outright. I think his handling of social issues has been very poor and condescending in this new era, leading to very lazy writing. But he absolutely nailed this one. Hopefully he'll understand that it's not the social commentary most people have a problem with, it's the bad writing. Dot and Bubble is how it should be done.

  • @pamelawelch5955

    @pamelawelch5955

    Ай бұрын

    Let us honor that hill!!!!

  • @itskashkashi
    @itskashkashiАй бұрын

    To think if they knew about the racism, they couldve used a perception filter lol. 9-14 would've at least used psychic paper to convince these idiots they had authority to investigate/ save them. But yeah, the episode was great. First one I've enjoyed without any major complaints surprisingly.

  • @HuntingViolets
    @HuntingVioletsАй бұрын

    She doesn't say Ricky sacrificed himself to save her. She tells the Doctor he went back to save more people and she couldn't stop him. Close enough, I guess.

  • @mjudec
    @mjudecАй бұрын

    This was a fascinating video and has inspired me to watch the episode again with fresh eyes. Maybe I'll like it better now, without being put off by wanting literally everyone except Ricky to die.

  • @flamingpizzareuploads4724
    @flamingpizzareuploads4724Ай бұрын

    The more I dwell on it, the more I love Dot and Bubble. My only complaint was the Killer AI reveal. I feel that trope has been done to death, and there could have been much better reveals for who created the slugs and why.

  • @vullord666

    @vullord666

    Ай бұрын

    It's also such a shallow reason given to it that doesn't hold up. Like at all. The dot learned to hate them because they yap too much? For the commentary the episode is trying to make, the reasoning is just so shallow it hurts it. Also if that is the case it should prioritize someone like Lindsey over Ricky whose revealed he doesn't even spend that much time on his dot. I also find it hard to believe it'd kill the entire homeworld population based on that and leave the 20 something rich elists snobs spending the most time on dot alive the longest. Like why not kill based on screen time? If we're going with the ridiculous explaination of rogue AI, it'd have at least been consistent with the reason given for it.

  • @ducklymov
    @ducklymovАй бұрын

    When I first heard of this episode i expected to dislike this one. the title, premise and just overall look of it didn't click with me. I went in with the lowest expectations possible expecting something really middle of the road. But damn I didn't expect this one to be one of the most solid episodes this season. Everything was so good and that ending was amazing. the idea of just this character we supposed to root for slowly establishing themselves as the worst person possible. I know RTD has written episodes like that where the doctor had to deal with saving really bad people. but this episode really hammers it in. This is really one of RTD's best written dr who episodes and really hypes me up for the finale.

  • @MrSukram777
    @MrSukram777Ай бұрын

    I didnt get ANY hints of racism, including the end, before watching reviews. Now I feel despressed for not getting it...

  • @lionofdemise

    @lionofdemise

    Ай бұрын

    That's the thing. There were small hints, lines, and actions that said these groups were racists. Could easily skip it and I almost did until I watched someone reaction and realized quickly.

  • @MrSukram777

    @MrSukram777

    Ай бұрын

    @@lionofdemise i only realized it afterwards, and only because of watching reviews. I thought their rejection was due to them being the upper class (which wouldve still been fitting to their society), but realizing it was being racist made me a bit depressed and self-doubting for not getting some hints like her first reaction or "you two are in the same room?". I genuinely didnt get they were being racist to him when rejecting him.

  • @rozzgrey801

    @rozzgrey801

    Ай бұрын

    Don't be depressed. It was a terribly clumsy, kak-handed and unconvincing way to 'tackle racism'. The Dr Who 'Rosa Parks' episode dealt with racism in an intelligent and realistic way, but this is just a silly story that does nothing to question racist attitudes, it just parodies them.

  • @MarcosSantos-dj6lk

    @MarcosSantos-dj6lk

    Ай бұрын

    was very noticeable by Lindy talks she said a lot of racists things but in a passive aggressive way

  • @MrSukram777

    @MrSukram777

    Ай бұрын

    @@rozzgrey801 actually I thought some characters in Rosa to be far more of a parody (like the bus driver who immediately stops his holiday when they tell him about black people planning to attack his bus or sth)

  • @EskoBomb
    @EskoBombАй бұрын

    24:41 Nice pic. It's missing the Curator. Two Tennants, two Bakers. There's bound to be some old favorites revisited... It's only fair

  • @tannisroot
    @tannisroot17 күн бұрын

    For me it makes perfect sense that the Dot AI would kill in alphabetical order. Because it's an AI that is responsible for management, I imagine it would care a lot for order and everything being done "right". AIs get created by establishing a reward system, so it would make sense it would be get rewarded for something like this. And there are people in real life who are like this because they have OCD. They just have this urge to do something in a maybe irrational, but "satisfying" way. And since Dot went out of its way to create the slugs, it is definitely doing it all to satisfy itself.

  • @samwitherington8202
    @samwitherington8202Ай бұрын

    At the exact moment you threatened to send the slugs after me, the likes moved from 1K to 1.1K. Some people clearly took that seriously.

  • @kevinlaity5931
    @kevinlaity5931Ай бұрын

    That chilling moment at the end upon realizing every character in the story had been white, and that I hadn't noticed.

  • @bsabruzzo
    @bsabruzzoКүн бұрын

    I remember maybe 20 years ago on the TV show Sliders where they went to a world where everybody loved Rembrandt but were racist towards the other three people in the group because they were trying to do the "this is what racism looks like" bit where the world was okay with black people and racist against white people so that it would be a sledgehammer on the subject. Dot and bubble on Doctor Who is a lot more subtle and does it a lot better because it sucks you into a separate and different topic and springs it and it's not until the end that you figure out "oh that's what this was about" rather than doing it from the beginning and going "oh God this is another one of those stories".

  • @quangobaud
    @quangobaudАй бұрын

    Not so much "City of Ember" more "City of Embarassing Stupidity"! Am I right, ey, amirite?!? (took me almost two weeks to come up with that line, so you better appreciate it, Harbo)

  • @MarcosSantos-dj6lk
    @MarcosSantos-dj6lkАй бұрын

    this episode was amazing one my favorites episodes Boom, 73 Yards , Dot and Bubble. So this season is already solid for me

  • @TyNels01
    @TyNels01Ай бұрын

    Something that may be worth noting is all these episodes relate to Orphans: Space Babies was a ship of baby orphans. The Devils Chord was Maestro who is the child of the toy maker who got all intensive purposes since he’s banished can be perceived as “dead”. Boom had Splice who is now an Orphan. 73 Yards had Ruby (already an orphan) be left by her adoptive family. Now Dot & Bubble has a planet/city of those FineTime orphans.

  • @impax2634
    @impax2634Ай бұрын

    So... We won't talk about doctor and ruby finally recognizing susan twist?

  • @therealpbristow

    @therealpbristow

    Ай бұрын

    In this episode, both Ruby and the Doctor recognise Susan Twist. ... There you go. =;o]

  • @yellowpete79

    @yellowpete79

    Ай бұрын

    Yet here you are talking about it.

  • @Jimbob_Offical
    @Jimbob_OfficalАй бұрын

    Should have been S rank, equal to Boom for me and way better than 72 yards

  • @alexfoxleigh9443
    @alexfoxleigh9443Ай бұрын

    My wife and I consider ourselves very “woke” and yet I’m ashamed to admit that neither of us saw the racism at any point in the episode. Even at the end we misinterpreted their response as being classist. It took reading a comment on Facebook for us to realise. It’s SO well written and it really made us think about our unconscious biases and our own privilege.

  • @peytonmac1131

    @peytonmac1131

    Ай бұрын

    Perhaps like South Park, you're so not-racist that you didn't notice skin colour at all.

  • @alexfoxleigh9443

    @alexfoxleigh9443

    Ай бұрын

    @@peytonmac1131 I would love to use that as an excuse but honestly I think it was a combination of white privilege and naive optimism.

  • @pamelawelch5955

    @pamelawelch5955

    Ай бұрын

    @@alexfoxleigh9443 Don't beat up on yourself for having the intelligence to be self aware. You didn't ask for privilege. And you saw through it. Relax and be happy you're one of the good guys! One of the smart guys!😄

  • @vullord666

    @vullord666

    Ай бұрын

    Because it's not racism. Really the fact we categorize isms as we do unfortunately leads to us... not really understanding this. This is plain and simple in-group/out-group homegenity effect. Where racism stems from. Races in humans literally aren't even a thing. It's just a history of people being unable to comprehend those with a different appearance from them and immediately viewing outsiders as threats which has been worsened by people taking advantage of this fact to maintain power. In this episode (dot and bubble) the focal character literally lives in a bubble. Racism isn't an accurate description this episode. It's just plain ignorance and echo chambers making the focal character constantly feel like they're right and ignore reality. Think about all the algorithms on social media which have just led to everyone adamantly thinking they're right 24/7. To crank it up a notch these are rich 20 somethings who spent their whole lives pampered and already view themselves as the cream of the crop. AND THEY'VE NEVER SEEN OR TALKED ANYONE WHO DOESN'T LOOK OR ACT OR COME FROM THE SAME BACKGROUND AS THEM. Elitist would be a better word for them, but really they're just ignorant and don't trust (and beyond that look down on) anyone that isn't and hasn't been in their echo chamber since they were born. Lindsey also didn't trust Ruby or want to talk to her on the basis that she's not in her friend group but she looked more like her so she was willing to give her chance. Lindsey also constantly fell back on what felt safe and familiar to her even when the reality showed that those things couldn't help her. In the beginning there's a sequence where she seriously considered walking forward into the monster because her dot told her to and wouldn't listen to ruby or the Doctor. She also fell back to her useless friend group. Even when she was told the dot was trying to kill her it took her forever to turn it off. She's not racist, she's someone who never faced reality and lived in a bubble (like in the episode title and how their bubble operates). I don't understand woke culture and I try to stay away from it, but I have to ask does it actually imply anything about actually understand progressive ideas and the root of the problem? Speaking as someone whose black and had to learn this. Racism isn't an actual thing people are one to one another. People just act with prejudice to each other and again races don't actually exist in humans (there's not enough genetic differentiation and if you follow them through history the definitions are highly volatile and abstract and constantly changing with the times and based on the region). Racism only exists as the systematic treatment of people based on the social construct of race. It's why it makes it interesting that the prejudice on blast can go unnoticed and why I'm truly so frustrated we've devolved the term "racism" to be a buzz word insult/joke (that's actually how I use it myself in conversation because it doesn't seem to hold any real meaning otherwise anymore). I don't say this to be insulting, but the fact is people don't actually understand what racism is and instead confound it with multiple abstract ideas that hide the root cause of it all. Then we're just left not confronting anything.

  • @Nikolas_Davis

    @Nikolas_Davis

    Ай бұрын

    Same with me; it sailed past my head. It really shocked me how I was totally blind to the blatantly obvious. As soon as it was pointed out to me, I immediately recalled the numerous cues throughout the episode. Compare and contrast to the Chibnall era, when you were conked over the head with a sock-wrapped brick with the moral of the story.

  • @georgehilliard354
    @georgehilliard354Ай бұрын

    I’m becoming more convinced that somehow the doctor is living a tv show/fan fiction. Hear me out - three main characters (Ruby, Cherry and Mrs Flood) are played by soap actresses - which I know isn’t unheard of BUT one broke the 4th wall and also so many in major roles? The storyline of Ruby being left as a baby is also a bit soap opera. Dot and Bubble is like black mirror, the next episode like Bridgerton. Susan twist is like an extra in a tv show that keeps reappearing/being re-used (think Tracy the barmaid in Eastenders). There’s been lots of reality bending this series (with Toy maker and Maestro). Also many episodes end in a twist or a musical or unfinished/unexplained. The doctor is also quite different from previous renditions. Ruby also looks a lot like Rose which I’m starting to think means something.

  • @SonnieCelanna

    @SonnieCelanna

    Ай бұрын

    I'd like to make an addition to this, 73 Yards specifcally also feels less like a Doctor Who episode and more like a full on fable. A fantasy story with some horror elements telling a simple but important moral through a method that leaves you very... uneasy afterwards. Hansel and Gretel type vibes.

  • @vaporock

    @vaporock

    Ай бұрын

    I will stop watching the show if this is right. Absolutely pathetic cynical meta writing.

  • @SonnieCelanna

    @SonnieCelanna

    Ай бұрын

    @@vaporock Alright then.

  • @FaolanCortez
    @FaolanCortezАй бұрын

    #SlugStan 🐌 Who else wants to give them a hug? 🥰

  • @ThyLfz

    @ThyLfz

    Ай бұрын

    me.

  • @ehannasir8464

    @ehannasir8464

    Ай бұрын

    they look so cute

  • @sabinedeimel
    @sabinedeimelАй бұрын

    Harbo, your analyses are simply the best! Profound, well thought out, carefully observed: the connection between pioneers and colonialism, the parallel between the character of Ricky September and the Doctor, and the fact that Lindy is enthusiastically helped by Ricky, but not by the Doctor. As far as I know, you were the first commentator to point out that even a superhero like the Doctor is helplessly at the mercy of this racism. His authority, his powers of persuasion, his intelligence, none of that is of any use to him - because he is black in this incarnation. For me, that is the real, devastating message of this episode.

  • @stevaldoo
    @stevaldooАй бұрын

    literally felt the same after watching the episode, felt like a classic doctor who episode

  • @kianolner3818
    @kianolner3818Ай бұрын

    Something that confused me, Lindy says she can’t walk without the arrows but how did she do so before she was in finetime? Did the dot and bubble exist outside of it? Or is it a case of her being there so long she’s simply forgot? But if that was the case, surely approx. 17 years of walking is enough to remember how to even if you don’t “properly” walk for a handful of years. Maybe I’m overthinking this, I probably am.

  • @ZarbiDW

    @ZarbiDW

    Ай бұрын

    I think the bubble is for everybody on the planet, or maybe just the rich, so I think Lindy’s lived with it all her life

  • @SonnieCelanna

    @SonnieCelanna

    Ай бұрын

    I'd imagine it did exist outside of it, just on a much larger scale. Thing is though, we're never told exactly when they go there anyways. There's genuinely a chance they could of been there from birth, or hooked on social media from the age of a toddler. I mean the phrase Ipad Kids exists for a reason. Considering rich parents are totally the type to expect a tablet to be enough to babysit a two year old, its like that on a much bigger scale

  • @simonorourke4465

    @simonorourke4465

    Ай бұрын

    I assumed based on the fact that we see a slug on the devastated home world and the fact that the mother says she is only a bubble away from Lindy, that they use the same dot and bubble on the home world too as the ai has clearly gone rouge there as well. This would jeanbthat for as longcas they have been able to walk they have always had the bubbles and probably learnt to walk using the arrows.

  • @adelaideas
    @adelaideasАй бұрын

    Agree on your ranking and your overall praise for the episode, it was pretty damn good! But while I agree the ending with Lindy was great, it felt a bit sudden to not have any reflection on what had happened between Ruby and Fifteen. Another episode where we're shown their dynamic but not their actual relationship. Of all episodes, this would've been the one to add some depth to their friendship.

  • @andreiamelo4540
    @andreiamelo4540Ай бұрын

    Justice for Ricky September!

  • @adamburke4738
    @adamburke4738Ай бұрын

    I still don’t even know if I like this episode.

  • @MichaelJohnson-kq7qg

    @MichaelJohnson-kq7qg

    Ай бұрын

    You're not necessarily supposed to like it. It's like Season Three of Torchwood. (You're definitely not supposed to like that).

  • @adamburke4738

    @adamburke4738

    Ай бұрын

    @@MichaelJohnson-kq7qg that’s the worst way to describe this episode 😂😂😂 also, sounds like you can’t handle opinions.

  • @MichaelJohnson-kq7qg

    @MichaelJohnson-kq7qg

    Ай бұрын

    @@adamburke4738 what an odd response.

  • @adamburke4738

    @adamburke4738

    Ай бұрын

    @@MichaelJohnson-kq7qg says the person tried comparing a mediocre episode to quality television 😂😂

  • @jeremythomaswebb1485
    @jeremythomaswebb1485Ай бұрын

    14:10 Haha when you said "What a Guy!" It made me think of Ace Rimmer from Red Dwarf. Ricky is kinda like Ace Rimmer, even has a similar Hair Style.

  • @EddJones25
    @EddJones25Ай бұрын

    "Fenton!.....jesus christ!...Fentoooonn!!!!"

  • @therealpbristow

    @therealpbristow

    Ай бұрын

    [BLINKS] The Death Sheep from Hell? How did *he* get into this? =:oo

  • @jayanderson9375
    @jayanderson9375Ай бұрын

    As someone who lives in the dry lands, behind the Zion curtain, i saw a lot of the world I live in here.

  • @pamelawelch5955

    @pamelawelch5955

    Ай бұрын

    More info please!

  • @jayanderson9375

    @jayanderson9375

    Ай бұрын

    @@pamelawelch5955 it’s a different bubble

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