Yes, I know I got mixed up between whether Bojack's mother or grandmother had the lobotomy but who cares. The point about hysteria still stands and remember, this is not a psychological profiling of the plot and characters, this is about using programs like this as a launching pad to discuss mental illness.

@berryronin6882

2 жыл бұрын

tremendous

@scottchaison1001

2 жыл бұрын

I do care.

@axolotlthrottle

2 жыл бұрын

I still appreciate your reaction. However, I feel as though a lot of the audience watching BoJack reaction videos are BoJack fans who have seen the episodes (especially since u mentioned in the start of the video that this episode was really requested, and I don’t think people who didn’t know the episode would have known to suggest it). So if you are providing incorrect information towards the characters it’s not really using the show as a launching pad for discussion of mental health because it isn’t accurate. Similar to if you were saying a character was being abusive if you didn’t know the other character in the scene was a narcassist using a dog whistle to make them react in a way that will make them seem like the crazy/abusive one. The information is not wholly correct in the context of the characters. I still absolutely love your reactions to BoJack though! Overall very good and interesting video!)

@tapset

Жыл бұрын

Cmon Dr Elliot!

@Sperium3000

5 ай бұрын

"Who cares". Why do the video then.

Not gonna lie I wish this video had included the “ICU = I see you” moment because I feel like it really tied up the whole episode.

@solidshake12

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, it's an absolute gut punch moment.

@spo0pti918

2 жыл бұрын

will arnett’s delivery for that part of the script is so powerful and perfect

@bigtiny1478

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. The video ended and I was like wait. What happened to that big realization. Still. Pretty good video

@EverlastingRain55

2 жыл бұрын

I recently rewatched this episode and realized that Bojack's father says "yes yes I see you" at the beginning of the episode when he picks him up haha.

@flawedsanity

2 жыл бұрын

Right? It was, arguably, the most important moment of the episode. Would have been nice for him to react and give some medical commentary on Beatrice staring at the ICU sign, as well as psychological commentary on how complicated it makes BoJack feel.

The line when Bojack is saying "My mother is dead, and everything is worse now, because now I know I will never have a mother who looks at me from across the room and says Bojack Horseman, I see you" always breaks me... Not only because I'm sad for Bojack, but because he said that his mother said something similar during her husband's funeral even though he didn't know why. And when he said that line, I also understood that her mother said the same thing because she knew she would never have a good relationship with her husband.

@LuLu24Ayo

2 жыл бұрын

Well that smacked me in the head. Beautifully worded. I’ve rewatched the series dozens of times now and never connected that. Thank you.

@oz_jones

2 жыл бұрын

The real gut puncher? Beatrice actually just read the sign for ICU.

@beyondviolet

8 ай бұрын

“my father is dead and everything is worse now” was circling in my head when my dad died… it truly does not sink in for you until it happens

The one that got the lobotomy was his grandma. Bojack's mom was a very bitter woman, who grew up with her father invalidating women's feelings and her mom absent because of her lobotomy, on the background like a cautionary tale.

@frankfort332

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah Joseph Sugarman essentially threatened her with it. Pretty sure he said "you don't want to end up like your mother do you"

@CosmicDrift420

2 жыл бұрын

Yup. Came here to say this

@Goosethelabrador

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah

@LA-xc4tc

Ай бұрын

Beatrice and butterscotch both had absent mother figures One from death and one from lobotomy. Considering the time period and how it’s already so rigid, That union was doomed from the beginning and from the bottom of its essence. Bojack didn’t have a chance. That phone call after his mum reads one trick pony captured that.

The first think Bojack's dad says to him "Yes, yes I SEE YOU" and proceeds to never stop talking while not noticing his surroundings. Exactly what Bojack does is this episode.

@matthewgallaway3675

Жыл бұрын

Why would you hurt me like this?

I loved this episode from a production/writing standpoint too, as a so-called "bottle episode" (because it all takes place in one location). In a good series, these often have the strongest writing, because the writers can't rely on action to carry the plot; they have to focus entirely on characters, and in BH it really shows just how deeply they understand this character and what he's been going through.

@AllTheArtsy

2 жыл бұрын

It's also the cheapest episode to make, which is a bonus.

@avinrains

2 жыл бұрын

Not to mention this episode takes place after Bojack makes a jab at episodes that are mostly dialogue, I love that most of their jokes come back around.

@Tyler-cm6vk

2 жыл бұрын

not the first person to point out but I really love how the first line is “I see you” by Butterscotch and the fact that in an episode that explores “what it is to be seen,” we never get to see Beatrice’s face.

@yourlittleinsomniac5369

Жыл бұрын

Savagebooks broke this episode's intro (the car scene with the dad) down from a writing perspective which I think helps add a lot to both Beatrice, Butterscotch, and Bojack. Plenty of people talk about the funeral so I liked that analysis.

What I find interesting about Beatrice and her relationship with BoJack is that she did try - not very hard - to reach out to him in the season two opener, Brand New Couch. She's been calling him all day and he's ignored her until he's due to go on set, and she tells him she read his book, and the bits about her, and that she knows he wants to be happy and he won't be and that she's sorry. Of course then she tells him he was born broken and there's no cure for it, because she's Beatrice.

@jsinmcc92

2 жыл бұрын

Good point it’s a trip because first watch you just think she’s this awful woman which she was but that probably took a lot for someone like her 😢

@jojo-xk8ri

Жыл бұрын

because she wants to avoid blame for it

Will Arnett voices both Bojack, and his dad. His is the only voice in this episode. Perfectly fits how Bojack will never get answers one what his mom meant by "I see you," or who his parents could've been. In the end....all that's here, is his voice. Brilliant.

Beatrice didn't actually have the lobotomy. That was Beatrice's mom that had the lobotomy.

@gaz0428

2 жыл бұрын

thank you. I got really confused for a sec. Didn't think it was her.

It’s interesting how you immediately pinpoint that narcissistic streak that Bojack has, because I never really recognized that in him *until* I watched the Xerox of a Xerox episode. I saw he was self-centered, yes, but I thought the narcissism wasn’t ‘real’, just some self-delusion or act of which he was aware. But after Xerox of a Xerox I rewatched the series and saw something very different. Interesting how that works.

The line "it's good that my mother is dead" hits super hard for me. I'm like an opposite Bojack in relation to when my mother died. At first I was super sad, having thought my mother was the best mother ever and feeling totally lost now that she was gone... but with time, now that she wasn't there to manipulate me and control the narrative, I could finally start to pick everything apart and realise just how traumatised and depressed I had become because of her. I learned so many horrible things she had done, and had to unlearn so many horrible ideas and views that she had made me believe. It wasn't until long after she died I finally could come out as trans and queer, and learn to be myself. I could learn to build friendships, now that she wasn't around to manipulate and isolate me from my social circle. I could express myself without being ridiculed. "It's good that my mother is dead", is a weird, awful truth I had to admit to myself. Even if I've accepted that fact, I still have nightmares about her coming back to life and going back to how things were before. Honestly, I think Bojack Horseman helped me feel better about my hatred and fear towards my own dead mother, as horrible as that sounds.

@EverlastingRain55

2 жыл бұрын

I hear you. I have no relationship with my mother as she's a super toxic and manipulative woman. This episode cut me deep, as Bojack can't repair that relationship with his mother anymore now that she's gone, and he couldn't repair it while she was alive due to the type of people they were and what they'd gone through. Him saying that he realized he'll never have the relationship he wanted with her, it's something I think about often with my own mother.

@charisleighmusic

2 жыл бұрын

Oh sweetheart, my heart breaks for you. It sounds like you’ve processed that in a healthy way and that’s amazing. I’m so challenged by how you’ve made room for the nuance in your situation. I’m so sorry you were traumatized. You didn’t deserve that.

@SupHapCak

2 жыл бұрын

Dude, you’ve been brainwashed. Your mother was absent and media stepped in as a surrogate. Now I didn’t know your mother but I feel like if your parents are gone and the first thing you do is join a gang that’s something to think about. Just so you know, I’m gay and have dysphoric tendencies, so I’m not coming down on you about that. I’m just saying you “found out” these things when your guiding force was absent. Most people just KNOW.

@widget5718

2 жыл бұрын

@SuperHappyCake There's a lot of people who realize shit later in life, there's no one specific way of discovering things about yourself, do you live under a rock? Also, they were influenced by a 'gang'? Lost your guide? They just said how they realized their Mom was manipulative, etc. how were they a good guide before? Seems you just have a problem with them realizing they're trans late, not realizing their sexuality late.. hhm.

@matheussanthiago9685

2 жыл бұрын

@@SupHapCak the sheer amount of entlitment required to assume you know more about a person, from one single convoluted coment, than the fucking person themself I'm not even mad, it's truly a feat

I think it speaks to Bojack's character - his need to downplay his emotions, his drive to turn everything into a marketable performance, his desperation to be liked/loved - that makes this work as both a tragic and a "comic" episode. It's entirely in character that he'd try to model his eulogy for an event about which he's emotionally uncertain on standup routines.

I caught on very very early that the funeral wasn't his mother's (because of the hush hush talk instead of his friends stopping him or interrupting, which I assumed woud have happened), and it just made it all the more sad. All these thoughts, resentment, dashed hopes. The last words he ever says to his dead mother, and not even her corpse could hear it. They always passed each other, never truly listening, and they never had a good relationship. It's so painful to think about.

@reggdew5412

2 жыл бұрын

I don't really think about it as "sad" but more like a way to show that this whole eulogy wasn't about giving a eulogy but more of a therapeutical journey for bojack and the fact that he told all of this to a bunch of strangers only shows that when someone is going through such hard times like these all this person needs is talk him/her self out of it. This helped me in a way I aproach people in this kind of distress, I let them talk, I'm not there to give some kind of advice or come up with solutions, most of all I'm there so that this person doesn't talk to the void and so that he/she still feels the human conection. This episode shows that it doesn't really matter who you are talking to but it's more about the fact that you are talking at all, because you are talking mostly to yourself.

Great video! My dad died from Alzheimer’s almost two months ago. Both my parents were extremely neglectful and abusive and I had cut contact about two years prior. But when BoJack talks about how all long as your parents are alive, you always have that small chance of someday having the good relationship you always wished you had, that really hit me hard. I always just wanted my parents to show me they cared about me, in the way that my friends’ parents acted towards them. I was so jealous of people who had supportive parents. Grieving the loss of a parent you had a bad relationship with is a topic not often touched upon in the media. Even in real life, I have a few friends who lost parents within the past couple years, and I see them post on social media all the time, talking about how great their parent was and attaching numerous photos with their arms around their parent, both smiling. I don’t think I have any photos like that with my dad. I can’t even think of anything particularly good to say about my dad - he wasn’t a very good or interesting person. He was selfish. He never made any effort to connect with me. It sucks to grieve in way that isn’t relatable to most people - it’s very lonely. But at least BoJack understood.

@eule1233

Жыл бұрын

I hope you feel a little more safe within your feelings. I get that it can be really hard to grief the person you wished to be your father. The person you deserved as a father. And grieving the person he was objectively with every fault, faults big enough to drive you away. The person that hurt you died and the fantasy of what he could and should have been stays, it can't die with him, because it sadly wasn't him.

@nxila_318

Жыл бұрын

I just read this and I want to tell you that I’ve never had met someone putting someone’s else’s thoughts in words, I always get jealous when my abusive father is nice to others because I don’t know him like then and I feel anger. I feel sorry that you never got the appreciation a child deserves. You’re awesome.

@eule1233

Жыл бұрын

@@nxila_318 I just read your message and it was so nice to hear this. I think as a child I just decided that I never wanted to be like the person that physiologically abused my. I made a promise to myself that I am going to listen to the voice in my head that sees pain and wants to help.

@venkatsaitangutoori4765

Жыл бұрын

I agree with you. Its even more sad that you cannot grieve in a way normal people with normal parents do. I hope everyone realize that

My mom has been in full-time care for over 6 years, and I recently signed paperwork to change her care to palliative. On that day, the nurse who was helping me told me to keep the pen. I barely managed not to giggle at the thought of "My mom is close to death and I got a free pen!" I ended up buying my own churro.

this episode, even though i didn't like his parents, for the same reason he did, was just so sad, it's such a phenomenal episode, the writing, the acting, the bad jokes landing badly and uncomfortable because it is uncomfortable. that is the thing with bojack horseman, the show, you get comfortable with being uncomfortable, the same way he is, these jarring stilting uneasy feelings of 'it's funny, but it's not supposed to be, but he knows it's not supposed to be, but it's still funny because it is so unfunny and sad and that's how he's lived'. you really get so into his character from an inside and outside perspective. just. woof. man this show really has so many levels.

Very interesting that you noticed BoJack's narcissism in that moment... I missed that way to interpret that! I love this episode so much. I relate so much to how he feels about his mom.

The stumbling block of insight not resulting in change is definitely something I've struggled with in the past. Great to hear a professional's opinion on a show that a layman like me thinks portrays depression in a very accurate way.

9:36 I love how he literally says the answer to BoJack's "I see you" dilemma right after he first said it

I ‘ve seen it in theories about the origin of personality disorders. Somewhere inside the 54 yr old Bojack, the neglected child lives on. Never grew up. And that’s the part which expresses the absurd hope for a happy ending, a change or even just closure.The old Bojack is resentful, cynical and emotionless but the child Bojack is not. We know he’s shame- and guilt-driven and even when he’s sure he has every right to blame his mom, he can’t feel good. Beatrice was “made”, then Bojacj was “made” and there goes on the cycle of hurt people hurting people

I've watched this episode many many times, the relationship he has with his mother is very similar to mine and I think Bojack horseman is one of the only series that could show a realistic toxic relationship between a child and their mother. Also it is really interesting that we can see how he's sad but at the same time he is also angry both at himself and his mom.

I would pay cash to see more bojack episodes analyzed theyre amazing

I wish I could of seen your reaction to Bojack revealing what his mother meant by "I see you"(ICU)

WHY DID YOU CUT OUT THE PART HE SAID, "It didn't even seem like she was looking at me, She was Looking a little past me- Oh my god, she wasn't saying I see you, she was reading the ICU Sign above the door!!" That was gold 😞

13:42 Funny that you mention that. In the last season, throughout it there's a series of flashbacks that bojack has to his "first drink," and with each one both the over and undertones get much darker and we begin to see just how deep Bojack's alcoholism runs and how integrated it is with the rest of his psychological issues

This was great Bojack Horseman is such a good show. I had similar feelings when my father and sister died. It'd be great if you reacted to the "One Day at a Time" episodes 'Penelope' and/or 'Anxiety'.

Really happy to see more Bojack content, I have an unending love for the show and people introduced to it

Oh yes the Free Churro is such a good episode. I hope to see more reacting to Bojack eps in the future, especially with the Good Damage episode

Bojack's mother didn't have a lobotomy, it was *her* mother who had the lobotomy.

@RandomliHyper

2 жыл бұрын

I came here to say this.

@VioletEmerald

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah i was gonna say i did a double take... Didn't think his mother had a lobotomy but I needed to remember who did get one and thanks for this reminder.

@DoctorElliottCarthy

2 жыл бұрын

Yes yes yes fine, made a mistake here but the point was more about the concept of hysteria. These vids are about using the show as a launching pad to talk about mental illness, not about the minutiae of character arcs

@SpecialProjectY

2 жыл бұрын

@@DoctorElliottCarthy I know it's a long and consuming thing, but maybe watching and reviewing every single episode and putting together all pieces scattered through series would finally make an explanation without extreme bias or prejudice?

@neverlandhunter6988

Жыл бұрын

@@DoctorElliottCarthy Kind of an unexpectedly rude response to one of your commenter's pointing out a simple mistake.

Kind of wish you had shown your reaction to him realizing it wasn't "I see you" but "ICU". Such a good but painful moment only topped by the end reveal.

I don’t watch Bojack, but this video made me want to cry. Great video, highly educational! Generational trauma is so ingrained in all of us and its so terrible. Thank you for this video!

@ryzigg7187

2 жыл бұрын

Watch it!

@dumbeetle1

2 жыл бұрын

It is seriously a good watch. Whatever is stopping you from watching it, I hope you overcome it. It's easily my favorite show ever.

@samanthahobbs8578

2 жыл бұрын

I will definitely give it a watch. Honestly i keep forgetting it exists until Elliott makes a video about it.

@dontperceiveme3025

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely recommend watching it. It has the perfect amout of light humor, dark themes or political/feminist themes. It is amazingly well written and extremely detailed. I have rewatched it sooo many times and I always find a new detail in the background or the dialogue. It's absolutely beautiful.

@DaveWraptastic

2 жыл бұрын

It is a rough watch, don't watch it in public and don't watch it alone if possible. If you are 'broken', like me and Bojack and most of the other characters in the show, it will probably hit you hard. A friend of mine who has 2 loving parents and is on the fast lane to a successful life didn't get it and therefor also didn't like it. Easily one of my favorite shows of all time and probably the best animated show of all time.

The father of all monologues episode is a perfect example of what my relationship with my dad is. Bojack is way too relatable. Not just sometimes. All the time. The whole time.

The writing and the performance of Will Arnet in this episode superb

I loved this episode, and always wondered what your insights would be on it. Really great video, thanks for doing it! I thought it was a really interesting way to demonstrate Bojack's feelings about his relationship with his mother. Almost the opposite of other episodes about that relationship. No flashbacks, no rapidly changing scenes. Just him on his own up there going through this whole gamut of confusing emotions for 20 minutes. It was actually a bit uncomfortable, which is probably part of the point. Sitting there directly with emotions (or someone else's) can be that way. Definitely a very sad, but wonderful, episode.

Bojack is a masterpiece ... one of the best shows of all time also very underrated

Speaking of generational trauma, I'd love to hear your thoughts about Encanto!

@couchpotato8824

2 жыл бұрын

Ohh yesss u wanna see that reaction

@dontperceiveme3025

2 жыл бұрын

Supporting Disney isn't very lgbtq+ at the moment 🙃

@matesafranka6110

2 жыл бұрын

@@dontperceiveme3025 Are you saying... we don't talk about Disney?

@angelagunn7986

2 жыл бұрын

@@matesafranka6110 I shouldn't have giggled, and yet here we are

@dontperceiveme3025

2 жыл бұрын

@@matesafranka6110 "don't say disney" 💀

This came out on the year anniversary of my dad passing; and even though I had a completely different relationship with him - it was so cathartic. It was just so raw and funny and what I needed (especially in pre-Covid times).

I’m so glad to see him review it. It’s my favorite episode ever, like when it ends I’m sitting like “yo wait, that was the whole episode?!” Because it’s so well written you don’t even realize how long it goes on

The hospital psychology is something I never thought was real. I got hospitalized for like 3 months while I was paralysed and I was so pissed off to everything and everyone I don't know how my family bared me in those days. I was so rude to every doctor because I feel angry not being able to move my own body, I reflected that anger to people around me :( Still today, we jokingly say how sassy and fussy I was to people who was trying to help me, but it has a small place in my heart that I will regret.

Yessss I was waiting for this. It's one of my all time favorite episodes. The dialogue or monologue writing of this show is one of the best writing I have ever seen.

I did not watch the show, but know it by now from your reactions to it, and other critics too. And it touches me every time. Really well done, this episode and your insight. And coming from a toxic family myself, and having so many severe issues because of it, I totally feel that deep confusion. It is such a big thing for me too, in so many aspects, and the whole speech he is giving illustrates this. Especially the short sentences at the end, gaining insight in baby steps, allowing these thoughts for once to form, and speak them out. I feel it deeply. And it is really sad, and so relatable to me, and touching... I feel him so much on the feeling of desperately waiting, against all evidences accumulated during the years, that miraculously she might one day show him a sign of acknowledging him like he would whish and need her to do. Her dead erased that anyway "stupid" hope. And it hurts. Besides this and likely more, I loved how you said that you cannot explain the "why" behind feeling bad when struggling with mental illnesses. People still asking for it makes it only harder. Reminds me of that joke: "Sister, how can you be depressed, there is so much beatuy in the world?" - "well then sister, how can you have asthma when there is so much air in the world?" Sorry for digressing, I always find this one surpisingly true. And thank you as always for your great content.

The unhappiness from BoJack that his mother gave a moment of connection to him at the end I think is more confirmation of a fear that his mother had the capacity to have a positive connection with him, but now never will. He probably "coped" with it by telling himself it will never happen because she's incapable of caring about him in that way, but deep down feels that it's actually his fault they didn't have a connection, as she outwardly blamed him, and he internalised that. Saying "I see you" turns all of that rationalisation on its head, leaving him more disoriented at a very tender moment. He's used to responding/rationalising these things as being his mother's fault to vindicate himself, so, feeling pressured, concludes that his mother is trying to hurt him one final time, and strengthens his idea that his mother is an entirely negative person, which pushes away most of the remorse he would have for acting like that at her funeral.

I really loved Bojack Horseman because it was a series that dug deep into the multitude of facets surrounding depression and how each character navigates or avoids it. It helps that there is humor peppered throughout, but it also acknowledges depression in its delivery even if the characters deny they have it.

Interesting to see the tumultuous struggle going on through Bojack’s mind in the end when he goes from missing his mother, to being glad that he doesn’t have to look out for anyone else. The mind itself can indeed make a hell of heaven, a heaven of hell

@matthewgallaway3675

2 жыл бұрын

I haven’t heard that before, I like that :)

Yes! A new bojack vid! This made my Saturday!

Dearest Dr Elliot Carthy, not only are your videos the reason I started watching (and have just finished) Bojack Horseman, they also brighten up my day! So thanks a million for that. Looking forward to future videos

YES I love these Bojack videos more than anything. It’d be cool if you reacted to “The View From Halfway Down.”

Thank you so much for doing another Bojack episode! My favorite

Watching your videos and also marathoning BoJack just a few days ago, I realized there's something I'd like to see a healthcare professional react - a game called Disco Elysium. Have you ever considered branching out into games? It's not really a game since you only interact with the world with conversation, but I think it would be interesting to see what you'd make out of main character.

Thanks so much, I love the show and your insight makes me love it even more. During your video I was expecting your reaction for the ICU moment 😄.

I absolutely love these videos. Bojack Horseman is hands down one of my favorite shows. One of the reasons being its amazing portrayals of mental illness, addiction, trauma, etc and seeing a doctor go through it so thoroughly and break it down as well as voice the thoughts Im sure we all had during these scenes so clearly is really cool. As well as point out more in depth things I may not have caught of deeper psychology into these characters. Im really happy you picked this show to do videos on! Definitely enjoyed them! Thank you!

I love watching your episode analysis it means so much to me, thank you.

This episode is actually next on whatever number re-watch I'm on! Perfect timing and enjoyed as usual :)

As much as I love this show, I can only watch an episode or two at a time. I do not know exactly why but it seems to manage to tap into my own loneliness, isolation, and grief. Powerful stuff.

Love this content. Please don't stop making videos, they're informative and interesting and help make sense of a lot of things. Thank you❤️

Cant. I. WAIT. Till ya see the episode "view from halfway down". I JUST CANT WAIT FOR IT!

Missed these! Thanks for the great work, Doctor

I've been around for awhile (since before 1000 I believe) and I'm so proud of how far you've come! You put out quality videos consistently and I very much so appreciate it.

9:07 I kinda figured it was more along the lines of her going through the last stage of dementia and then going into a terminal lucidity before dying

This episode always make me cry ! I liked your commentary, thank you very much !

thank you so much these are really insightful as well as really cathartic to watch

This is my absolute favourite episode of Bojack, thank you for covering this! I really hope you take time to review Big Mouth or the incredibly recent spin-off series Human Resources, I feel both shows would be entirely up this channel's alley

been so ready for this!!!

When I first saw this episode, about 10 minutes in I said "This isn't the entire episode is it?" and another 5 after that I realized that it was. This absolutely breaks all the rules of screenwriting. It was reckless and unprecedented and true, pure, artistic genius. I actually stood up and applauded at my screen, in an empty room when it ended. Psychologically it felt somehow cathartic? Like we were reaching some kind of truth now all the posturing had been stripped away. I hope when people write eulogies about me they can be just as truthful.

Beatrice never had a lobotomy. That was Beatrice's mother, Bojack's grandma who had the lobotomy

@DoctorElliottCarthy

2 жыл бұрын

OK yes I made a mistake here but it doesn't detract from the point I was making about the concept of hysteria

This is one of the episodes that I don't really think about that much from this series but when someone mentions it I will always be like "oh yeah, that's a great one" . It's always so interesting to hear other peoples takes and analysis of these kinda shows and episodes, I really do hope that you work your way to the last 2 episodes of the show.

I love your bojack reactions thank you so much!! :)

This video made me cry 😭 i mean, everything made me cry... i haven't even watched bojark horseman but your explanations spoke to me a lot

@angelagunn7986

2 жыл бұрын

When you can, treat yourself and watch it. I was super-late to the party and that's okay. SO worth your time!

@syca5094

2 жыл бұрын

Please please watch it. It will change your entire mindset 💯

I don't usually watch series, so when my brother insisted I gave Bojack Horseman a try I was skeptical, so he offered me a deal: Watch only one episode, if you don't like it then I will leave you alone about it. I agreed, thinking he was going to put the first one but was surprised with this episode, Free Churro. I think after that, I watched the whole 5 seasons in less than a week (the 6th one wasn't out yet). Congratulations on an amazing video about an amazing episode

Your face during Butterscotch's speech in the car was so on point hahaha. I absolutely /love/ Bojack Horseman, but was never really a fan of Free Churro - mainly just bc it's really slow paced. But I wanted to watch your vid and reaction and... I'm now considering giving the full episode another go, haha. Really interesting as usual! So happy you decided to do a Bojack episode!! Amazing show. Would love to see more from it some day! God knows there's enough messed up episodes to choose from :^)

hello, I was really inspired by Bojack for one of my editions and you analyzing it makes me really happy :))), thank you

I love these videos, this is my favourite episode of the series. So simple, so saddening,

There might not be a trigger, and that's okay! Thank you for this, Dr Carthy, I actually really needed that.

I wish you had included "I was your son. All I had was you". That line just hits different

Your Bojack videos are probably my favourite videos of yours.

YES YES YES! I haven't even watched the video yet but I already know it's going to be great!

Yes!! Love it/you. Great work.

I hope you're enjoying Bojack, its a very good series. If you like it I think you should check out Moral Orel. Its basically like Bojack, but from the perspective of a child who's being abused and neglected. Each episode is only 10 minutes so you can watch them relatively quickly "Nature, part 1 & 2" These episodes have the dad (Clay) taking his kid (Orel) hunting and it turns very sour and dark. Lots of projection and trauma dumping on the dads part. "Passing" Shows the dads upbringing and sheds light on his childhood trauma "Sacrifice" Clay gets drunk at a bar and exhibits the behaviour he learnt as a child "Numb" Shows what Bloberta (The wife and mother) was doing at home during her husband/sons hunting trip. And my personal favourite (Because i relate to it the most out of every episode) "Dumb"; Where the child of a dementia ridden old man is being neglected. This episode has themes of absent and neglectful parents, trauma induced age regression and the fear of growing up to be like your parents. I hope you watch them :D (and i hope it doesn't bum you out because its depressing as shit) :)

Can do a character breakdown of Clay Puppington from Moral Orel. Specifically Nature Parts 1 + 2. Really delving into his alcoholism.

this is my comfort video, it's become a tradition to watch it every now and then

Always intrigued to see your reacts to BoJack. I don't always agree with them, but I do enjoy hearing your thoughts. I *really* hope, one day, you cover "The View from Halfway Down." From a BoJack fan's standpoint, there is so much in that episode that ties into the whole show up until that episode. But from a chronically physically/mentally ill (and chronically suicidal) human, that episode is one of the most important and meaningful episodes I have ever seen. ETA - interesting to hear your thoughts on hospitals and the way we want to die. There is a great quote from House, where he says that "we cannot die with dignity."

I had a loss in the family recently and I’m glad I found this so I can rationalize working through it

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Just remember grief is neither rational nor should it be. Grief is a force in our lives to reconed with. It is wild and angry and sad and happy. It is a wave that sweepes you of your feet, but like water it drowns you if you fight it and holds you if you let it happen. Grief is what universally unites us in our shared humanity, it can grap hold of is and spit us out in a more beautiful place. Not in a perfect world, not in a world free of pain, but in a more beautiful world. All grief asks us to do is to let us be transformed, accept that there is no uncried tear and give up control and in return it gives us a life where we will never be ok again, but it will be more beautiful.

Hey doc, If you want a good movie to analyze for its depiction of denial, grief, and unfulfilled dreams, I'd suggest Nicolas Cage's "Pig."

Great look Into a scene that really pushed bojack the show into…something unique. What’s so interesting is how…little this scene actually matters to the rest of the show. Bojack continues to make terrible decisions after this episode. He didn’t ever reflect on his eulogy despite the fact that this is the only time we see Bojack truly reveal what he WANTED from his parents. He may say “it’s good my mother is dead because now I know I can only rely on myself.” But it never actually makes him stable. As you said, it’s bojack trying to rationalize his feelings. We also know that bojack is not entirely correct about being alone, he has his crew that up until the final season never actually abandoned him. But he drove them away from being closer. We are wondering at the end of the series: “Did Bojack actually change for the better? Did he overcome his demons?”

The last thing my grandmother said to me was "Don't leave." I still left. The very next day she lost the capacity to speak, and she died a few days after that.I could spend years thinking I abandoned her, or I could recognise I had no way of knowing this would be her last words and remember she passed surrounded by her family and the people she loved.

For shows like Bojack since it's ended I'd love a post-mortem analysis so you can run down all the characters. Do you think you can do Mr. Robot ep 407 Proxy Authentication Required? Therapy by gunpoint seems rife with content!

Watching these videos is making me want to rewatch Bojack Horseman entirely, even though that series punched me in the heart more times than I can count.

Just reached the part about rigor mortis, and the way you said "you" when referring to people after death just kinda blew my mind (in a good way). Like somehow it was empowering? "Your muscles", "you're not pumping blood around", "you're not delivering ATP"... I know this was probably meant as a general "you" but my brain just kinda went 🤯 Fear of death was basically the onset of my depression back in 2014, and I'm still very much looking for ways to tentatively think about death without spiralling right back into the pit. So far I've got: 1. look at life more like a relay race where we pass the torch to each other as we go to create this sort of forward momentum. Ie "I had this experience, I built onto this world, and now it's yours to build on" and so on and so forth; 2. it's normal that you're not equipped to handle the prospect of growing old and dying. That's because people your age don't typically die. The person you'll be when this becomes a more pressing issue is an almost entirely different person, who may well have a completely different perspective on life. Ie "This is future Ali's problem." And I think you just gave me a tiny spark of: 3. you are you even after you've died. It's your body doing its thing. You're not disappearing into the void because there is no void. Just because you're not conscious for it doesn't mean that you don't exist. Anyway, that was long and rambling, but the bottom line is: thank you for the new thoughts and perspective ❤‍🩹

Hey Elliott, love your videos! Will you make a reaction to "the queen's gambit"?

Butterscotch wouldn't have put so much emphasis on the statement "pearls are for ladies" if it he didn't have some experience with pearls. Someone said or did something to him to make him cling to that belief in particular.

I always assumed he either didn't go to her actual funeral or said 'My mom is dead and everything is worse now... Fuck you' and than walked out.

- you are so right about the flask just being like a token object of comfort that even just feeling the weight of in your coat could give you a sense of security. I have the same thing with knowing I've got my Rx on me in bottle or a little cigerette holder case. Its like you know its there if shit gets too much to handle so even if you aren't literally using it provides a sense of grounding and support.

I can't wait for "The Showstopper" or "The View From Halfway Down", keep up the great work

Im living for Cheryl Hole just randomly being behind him the entire video. I feel like I met my soul mate

Interesting, I had no idea that humour is a mature coping mechanism! That's good news for me because I felt like my way to laugh at the stuff life throws at me is just a sign of immaturity that I don't want to face the situation, but really, I just know that life will get unjustifiably awful and you can either let it consume you, or you can laugh at it because life can't take your way of trying to have good moments during a bad time. It was what I learned in hospital when I had surgery for a lung tumor at 21. Life will just throw this at you and you can choose to have your last moments with family making cancerjokes or you give this illness the power it doesn't deserve and let it make you miserable. Luckily I didn't die, but I guess mortality taught me to appreciate the power of laughter. I actually strongly dislike Bojack and feel like I'm the only person that feels this way. The reason for that is that I prefer shows that layer their tough moments with funny moments, but the funny moments in Bojack seem more funny if you're high on weed. The characters often more act like literal representations of mental illness rather than people with mental illness. I also don'g like how I've seen people get a bit too comfortable with their depression because of this show, I love that it made them feel validated, but then it also made them neglect this approach for getting help because they identified a bit too much with depression. I myself have adhd and know that we don't come with an "off" switch for the illness we have, and it is a constant struggle, but at the end of the day we should still treat it like an illness. We should still adress the things in us that are malfunctioning. It's not okay to cheat, to be abusive, to be manipulative under the excuse of mental illness.

ATP!? That comes from the mitochondria!!! THE POWERHOUSE OF THE CELL!!! 8D

Kinda the same relationship I have with my voice over the phone mother. this still hits so hard.

This episode is a damn masterpiece

Can't believe this episode didn't win the Emmy

Speaking of stages of Grief I’d love to see you react to KEITH FROM GRIEF from Human Resources Gosh-- ‘The Only Way Out is Through!’