Everyone: I wish they still made simple, affordable, reliable truck with enough horsepower and not too much tech... oh and a manual gearbox is a must. Nissan: Frontier Everyone: Eeeew, it’s old and simple and there’s not enough tech. Nissan: 🤦🏾‍♂️

@davec.3198

4 жыл бұрын

I think the issue is that people can't get their fat asses into a midsize truck.

@Pandamonium626

4 жыл бұрын

This is why companies rarely listen to customers. They don't actually know what they want. They say one thing and buy another.

@newttella1043

4 жыл бұрын

Because profit margins are higher when more options are added. Like are sunroofs really a $1000 upgrade? Or soft close tailgate?People accept the upcharge to get stupid options. Dumb people are driving the demand for them.

@waterhead1029

4 жыл бұрын

@@newttella1043 Agreed. If I sold trucks and could score a grand adding a gadget or a cool sticker, I would. I looked at the console and dash on my 19 Pro4X and said "Yep, that's where I plug my phone in". ...Spell edit.

@samlung2724

4 жыл бұрын

Its old and simple because that thing never changed since 2005 and that's how the style was back then, simple. I have no issue with the truck, but it's a problem when nissan is selling an 05 car for like what? 20 to 25k? In 2020. If they would sell it for at most 10k then I think that's fine.

I really don’t get why people talk about the Nissan being dated. I know it’s an old design but to me a truck either looks good or bad. It’s not like a truck looks good for 10 years and all of a sudden looks bad after. And for me less tech the better.

@randomvideosn0where

5 жыл бұрын

Crank windows FTW!

@DivineF0xGoD

5 жыл бұрын

Sure it looks nice but the Nissan has been voted worst trucks for a long time now

@VeerMaharaj

5 жыл бұрын

@@DivineF0xGoDCite a reputable source... My 2009 Frontier is still going strong.

@truballr32

5 жыл бұрын

I agree a good looking vehicle is a good looking vehicle. Personally I hate the new looking cars with all these stickers, edges, plastic and chrome.

@ryanwelch4485

5 жыл бұрын

@@DivineF0xGoD by who? Some paied article? Owners love them. I used to sell these trucks new. AAA replaced their Rangers with these and the trucks are doing great. Very reliable after they fixed some issues a few years back

2001 Nissan frontier with 485k miles and still going. Dad bought it brand new for 15k dollars.

@johngallenstein1467

5 жыл бұрын

That's insane milage!

@alialithe1

5 жыл бұрын

4 trans later I bet

@DoubleOV0120

5 жыл бұрын

@@alialithe1 nope, just a couple of clutches.

@bradcallahan3546

5 жыл бұрын

Manual or auto transmission?

@DoubleOV0120

5 жыл бұрын

@@bradcallahan3546 manual

I have 2017 Frontier Sv 4x4. It’s even simpler then pro 4x, but i do love it. It’s cheap and reliable.

@GsxrGrl21

5 жыл бұрын

I have a 2013 SV. Great truck,but it's too basic for me

@josh33172

5 жыл бұрын

16 SV. 3rd Nissan w/ the 4.0, but all were after the trans cooler fix '10+ with a '10 SE 4x4 then 12 Xterra P4X and back to a '16 Fronti SV 4x4 that I got for $21k w/ 22k miles. Best value on the market!

@jonathonwright594

4 жыл бұрын

I think I'm going with the sv. I don't see a difference to justify the price for the pro. I'll put new wheels/tires and suspension myself. Then I think the only thing missing is heated leather seats and diff locker. I've never had heated seats so nothing lost for me.

@270eman

Жыл бұрын

I also have the same exact year and model. 48k miles and no issues

The Nissan is the better value. Especially if you are on a budget. Trucks are no longer affordable new. Just go used.

@theejoeylee

5 жыл бұрын

Used Pro 4X

@coltonjacobs5383

5 жыл бұрын

The problem is the reliability

@CoelhoSports

5 жыл бұрын

@@coltonjacobs5383 yeah you can get a used frontier for nothing, but it's for a reason. when renault bought nissan, reliability went downhill.

@theejoeylee

5 жыл бұрын

@@coltonjacobs5383 more reliable than the 93 Ranger rust bucket in my driveway

@grumpyolddan

5 жыл бұрын

@@CoelhoSports watch Scotty much lol. If that was true was is the Nissan frontier rated number 1 for compact trucks

I'm not paying $50k for a mid-size truck. That said Nissan exterior may be out dated but that is the mid-size for me.

@larrybe2900

5 жыл бұрын

Something can be said for less re-tooling. Less $$$

@DirtyScab

5 жыл бұрын

I don't get everyone saying the truck looks "dated" like it's a bad thing. I think the Tacoma's "modern" styling already looks dreadful and dated. I'll take the handsome look of the Frontier any day.

@ricwestdoesitwork

5 жыл бұрын

Dirty Scab we all have our own opinions. If memory serves me I owened one of the Nissan's with this body style when they first came out and now it has to be close to 9 or 10 years old. It would be nice to see the truck updated on the exterior and the interior. With some additional tech also. That's all I'm saying.

@Shakshuka69

5 жыл бұрын

It's the quality not the size. I would pay $50k for a 70 series Landcruiser in a heartbeat without thinking twice and I'm pretty sure that would be a midsize

@Shakshuka69

5 жыл бұрын

@Jason I don't think you know what a 70 series Landcruiser is if you're trying to compare it to a Frontier. It's like if Toyota made a Super Duty but kept it Tacoma sized with a turbo diesel V8 and two solid axles.

50k for no power seats and drum brakes, nice.....

@takayama1638

5 жыл бұрын

That's Toyota for you. The only Toyota I buy is Camry. Cheap plastic, but things go forever. My 2006 has over 274,000 miles on it now. Valve stem seals are blowing a bit of cold start blue smoke, but that's all. And the stupid rear drum brakes.

@angelgjr1999

5 жыл бұрын

Taka Yama Yeah. Tacoma’s (even pre owned ones) are overpriced. But atleast they last forever. You can see some for sale with 300+ thousand miles.

@jasondavis1453

5 жыл бұрын

Drum brakes and 50k get out of here

@philtripe

5 жыл бұрын

my 03 Taco has the original brake shoes at 300 thousand plus miles...ive replaced the front pads about 6 times...you can keep your rear discs

@BYRD-RC

5 жыл бұрын

@@philtripe that's an 03. This is a 2019 50k pickup. Civics dont even have drum brakes anymore. Many will try to justify this. Fact is, it's 50k and has drums.

Is that weird that a 14 year truck still compares to a 2019 modern midsize truck

@subieonelove2802

3 жыл бұрын

yes and loses at every point. so actually it doesn’t

@nunyab1zn3ss2

3 жыл бұрын

@@subieonelove2802 the price difference makes up for it

@subieonelove2802

3 жыл бұрын

@@nunyab1zn3ss2 i know. i actually lovw this frontier very much, but there is time to make it newer. and also there is new navara (it is actually frontier but not in America). it came out around 4 years ago. it would be nice if they put their new 3.8 310 hp v6 in new navara and make some off road versions for American market

@mauricemotors8207

3 жыл бұрын

@@subieonelove2802 It has more torque without D4S and BRAKE DISC 50k for drums is a joke

Frontier is definitely the way to go. Nissan is a great bare bones truck that just works.

I love the Frontier’s design. The whole truck may be dated, but it’s like they say... “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.” I would like to see a redesign though...

@35327290

4 жыл бұрын

in south america and europe, there's a new one, I find it strange that in Usa they did'nt change it

@Tiredofbeingaplaya

4 жыл бұрын

Redesign is coming in 2021

@tylerchaney1533

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly...no need to fix. Look at the Honda XR650L motorcycle. Absolutely unchanged other than some cosmetics since 1993!

Gotta love the 4 wheel disc brakes and fully boxed frame of the Tacoma...wait, it doesn’t have either! 😞

@TIJoe-te9qu

11 ай бұрын

I'm sure Toyota has a great technical reason for unboxed frame and old drum brakes being superior off road. Oh wait, they're being cheap, because they can, and they know they could cover it in feces and the fanboys would still fight over it for any price. And people call the Nissan "old." But on a Toyota, old is "proven" instead of just old.

I had a frontier pro 4x rental for months while my Tacoma frame was being replaced and it was an awesome truck. I beat the living crap out of that truck and it handled like a dream. I work in the woods daily and I was thoroughly impressed. I can save $13,000 Canadian on a pro 4x over a trd off road (a pro is like 26k plus more than pro 4x) and that seals the deal for me

@TheKingOfInappropriateComments

5 жыл бұрын

But you have to sit with your knees in your face and can't adjust the seat.

@SPPTA

5 жыл бұрын

Roadside Table Better than sitting on the floor and have your ankles go numb.

@matt34003434

5 жыл бұрын

I have a 2017 TRD OR right now and had a 2011 Frontier SV 4x4. If I could take the 4.0 and trans from that Frontier and put it in the Tacoma, I would be really happy. My biggest grip about my Tacoma is the no torque 3.5 and ridiculously under geared transmission they use. Currently saving up to put 5.29 gears in the Taco.

@luciussulla987

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheKingOfInappropriateComments Can't adjust the seat? Um yes you can... the driving position in the Frontier is much more comfortable than the Tacoma and more adjustable. Tech aside the Frontier is more enjoyable to drive in terms of how it handles and feels on the road. They'll make it up the same trails too so it really just comes down preference.

@TIJoe-te9qu

11 ай бұрын

​@@TheKingOfInappropriateCommentsAny discomfort is worth it just to have the honor of sitting in a Tacoma that can do no wrong...

I own a 2006 nissan frontier 4x4 with the 4.0 and I absolutely love it! It was cheap to buy, cheap to insure and because it's not "updated" I can buy parts for dirt cheap but it still looks like a brand new truck.

I'll take the Frontier. The VQ engine family has been around since 1995 and shows no sign of slowing down!

@nicholasmapes

5 жыл бұрын

I love my 2012 4.0... strong, smooth, reliable, cant be beat

@aznboymix559

5 жыл бұрын

my 2005 Frontier trans took a dump at around 80k miles.

@nicholasmapes

5 жыл бұрын

@@aznboymix559 auto? Or manual?

@VincentAnthonyE

5 жыл бұрын

@@aznboymix559 I've read many reviews of the autos in the frontier falling apart sooner than even yours.

@Dansk55

4 жыл бұрын

dont forget the coolant in tranny too. Old Frontiers were much better

Idk? Technology is great but it’s just more stuff to break.

@kmeekins4168

5 жыл бұрын

And most people can't fix electronics on their own! Stuff gets expensive

@zamora3D

5 жыл бұрын

this

@isaaclopez5004

5 жыл бұрын

Toyota dont break sorry

@rickykraus7450

5 жыл бұрын

Don’t be a fan boy! Yes they do! Sorry

@kmeekins4168

5 жыл бұрын

@@isaaclopez5004 I don't think anyone is really questioning Toyota reliability. Personally I'm just saying electronics tend to not last 10-15 years. How many cell phones/computers/garage door openers do you have from 15 years ago that still work?

I own a 2018 Nissan Frontier SV 4X4 Long Bed. It's honestly everything you ever need in a truck. 27k. Vs competitors at 12-15k more. Doesn't make sense. The minor updates to newer trucks don't justify the price tag. That's 100% why I went Frontier. Couldn't be happier

@samlung2724

4 жыл бұрын

The problem I see is that Nissan is selling an 05 truck for that much in 2018. Its overpriced for what you get and the type of technology it has. Nothing wrong with the truck, I just think its overpriced. 10k max brand new might be better tbh.

@anom3778

4 жыл бұрын

You can get a tacoma for a lot less than 50k. They shouldn't have compared these two

Nathan is the one on this channel with good judgement. He actually factors price into the equation. It's easy to spend someone else's money...

I’m actually going to look at a Frontier Pro4X today. 2019 with 17,687 miles, single owner, no accidents for 20k! I don’t mind the turning radius thing, the entire video was super helpful though!

$50 grand for a Tocoma? When I stop laughing I will finish my comment!

@madcratebuilder

5 жыл бұрын

Complete with drum brakes. ZR2's in the high 30's and a better truck.

@blaaaaaaaa2017

5 жыл бұрын

Steven Claggett toyota build simple vehicles that are guranteed to go over 250,000 miles no problem. Chevy and ford make vehicles thats comfortable to last for 5yrs and starts fallin apart. It really depends on what you like..

@f1y7rap

5 жыл бұрын

@@blaaaaaaaa2017 its a very rare buyer that keeps a vehicle more than 5 yrs nowadays... Most sell before the warranty is out. No matter how long that warranty is, they trade it in by then.

@spicysnowman8886

5 жыл бұрын

@@f1y7rap apparently not because the tacoma is best selling and uses the last longer philosophy.

@blaaaaaaaa2017

5 жыл бұрын

f1y7rap its not very rare.. specially toyotas. Best resale value. The only vehicle u can put 200,000 miles on and still sell for 50-60% of what you paid for.

I agree with old school u can put skid plates and badass tires on any truck for cheaper than $50k, and upgrade it how you want.

I've owned 3 Frontiers now, and it's the only truck I'll buy today. I just bought a 2019 Pro4x (traded in my 2015 Pro 4x) and I've never had a problem with any of the 3 I've owned. It's the only small truck that still has a big V6, plenty of power, reliable, and pulls my little boat with no problems. My first Frontier had 134k when I traded it in. My second had 86k, and my new one currently has 10k. If it ain't broke...don't fix it. If Nissan would keep this current design, maybe update the headlights, interior, wheels, new colors etc. It could go another 10+ years no prob.

@TryAmazonPrimeToday

Жыл бұрын

I recently thought about getting another truck (a Tacoma) to replace my current Frontier which I've owned for about 10 years now. After much consideration, I've decided to stick with the Frontier because it is still in good shape. Engine and auto tranny operates smoothly. Very minimal rust on frame and body. I really want to upgrade to a 6 speed Pro4x in the near future though!

I looked at both Tacomas and Frontiers I just couldn't get over the price difference both are great trucks but I decided to save a bunch of money and went with the frontier Plus I love that it's a 6-speed manual very fun to drive

@tinhinnh

5 жыл бұрын

Cody NG you’re not really saving any money at the end if you decide to get rid of the nissan

@tinhinnh

5 жыл бұрын

Andrew Smith congrats, you just surpassed mine.

@samlung2724

4 жыл бұрын

Used. The frontier is a win, but if you buy that thing brand new theses days then it's not a steal and you're actually overpaying for what you get.

@anom3778

4 жыл бұрын

There are cheaper tacoma models

@270eman

Жыл бұрын

@@samlung2724 Yeah I got mine with 36k miles for a lot less than new. And the truck basically is new quality wise.

High tech = High Prices Low tech = Low Prices. Nissan you pass the test, keep up the 1 million mile+ limit engines and simplicity. Amazing Truck!

I love that every time you bring out this frontier it's a near identical truck to the one I bought two years ago. 2017 fully loaded pro4x in the dark red. Still loving it.

I test drove the TRD Pro yesterday and it was a nice truck! Though if it were my money, can’t beat the value of the Frontier Pro4X. Great video!

@mrvwbug4423

5 жыл бұрын

The TRD Off Road package Tacoma is a lot cheaper than the Pro and is pretty much just as capable, unless you're trying to go 100mph across the desert.

Nothing like seeing the guy driving down the highway with the oversized snorkel on his $50,000 truck...🤣😂🤣😂

Thumbs up for the Frontier 👍

Love the frontier, TFL review years ago if the p4x sold me on my 2011 p4x

I would not pay almost 50 grand for a vehicle without power seats in 2019

@ALMX5DP

5 жыл бұрын

Axillary Gaming you sound spoiled.

@BoneStack117

5 жыл бұрын

Why? Usually seats are set and forget, unless lots of different drivers sit in them. Not a big deal

@Shakshuka69

5 жыл бұрын

I would not pay almost 50 grand for a vehicle without POWER in 2019 either

@jasondavis1453

5 жыл бұрын

Agreed I move my seat around still especially on really long drives

@guacamoleweiner69

5 жыл бұрын

Amen to that

The cool thing I love about the frontier is how they kept it small and how they kept the design. I like that I can buy an old one on CL and fix it up and only have a few things differentiating it from a new one. Plus I can easily upgrade it with newer/nicer interior bits if I want to.

It seems to me watching TFLtruck videos that like 80% of the subscribers hate the Tacoma lol. Every time I watch a video on the Tacoma the comment thread is just full of hate comments. It’s not for everybody, but that doesn’t mean it’s inferior. This is the best midsize on the market, and the sales numbers prove that. Everybody said when the Colorado came out it would take over the Tacoma in a few years. Hasn’t even come close, not to mention the frontier is miles behind the Tacoma. I’ll take the Tacoma all day.

@CoelhoSports

5 жыл бұрын

most of the taco bashing reads like cut and pastes from somewhere else.

Awesome video! I bought a 2016 Frontier Desert Runner for $23,000 brand new with 6 miles on it. Simplicity in a truck rocks! I love it...I affectionally call it my "Dessert Runner". I really enjoyed this video...thanks for posting!

I would like to rather spend my money investing and building wealth than driving a payment. The main reason people live paycheck to paycheck is they can't be content with what they own.

@Shakshuka69

5 жыл бұрын

These will both have you making a payment.

@mauricioduran6015

5 жыл бұрын

Cant be content owning a colorado

@AMatofFact

5 жыл бұрын

So you don't own a car at all?

@09mazdasp33d

5 жыл бұрын

He must own a bicycle

@BrianNC81

5 жыл бұрын

@@AMatofFact own 3 vehicles no payments. 2005 Silverado Duramax diesel, 2009 BMW 335D, and a 2017 4runner.

The Frontier is definitely a bargain right now, even compared to the TRD Off Road.

@MegaMarlon0123

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but at the light stop next to the Tacoma you will be like WTF did i do buying this instead of that beast

@kenny21r

5 жыл бұрын

josue CH nah.

@CoelhoSports

5 жыл бұрын

pro-4x is not comparable to the TRD OR either.

@mrvwbug4423

5 жыл бұрын

Sit in the Frontier and you will understand why it is so cheap. 2005 called and they want their truck back.

@dcam456

5 жыл бұрын

coelho sports why not?

These reviews are the reason I got my 2016 Pro4x. Looks just like the one in the video and I love it.

"Do it for Science " [then measuring the distance with his feet] Lol. You guys are awesome!

I used to own a 2006 Frontier Nismo and sold it 6 yrs later with over 100k miles and it never left me stranded. I prefer the styling of the Tacoma but pound for pound the Frontier is the winner. Don’t worry though, when the new Frontier comes out it too will cost nearly 50k :(

I got a 2017 Frontier SV 4x4 Crew Cab for $30,600 out the door (TTL, maintenance package, et al.) The best anyone could do on a Canyon or Tacoma was $34K (before sales tax, etc.) for a stripped "work truck" 4x4 crew cab. Ranger wasn't out yet.

The price for the Tacoma is $50k because people are dumb enough to pay that much for a truck, that doesn't even have a power driver seat...

@samlung2724

4 жыл бұрын

And Nissan is dumb for selling an 05 truck in 2020 for nearly the same price when it first came out. Not defending the tacoma but Nissan is crazy to.

@Bru946

4 жыл бұрын

Sam Lung See the thing is though. Nissan is still selling and competing with their 15 year old truck. They sell 3rd place in the mid sized market up against trucks like the fancy gladiator and ranger.

@rudygonzalez5276

3 жыл бұрын

@@samlung2724 frontiers are way more affordable than overpriced tacomas period

Love my 2017 Frontier Pro-4X!

Man I love the frontier

Stickers add at least +3hp per cubic ft of sticker.

@s13one80

5 жыл бұрын

Fake hood scoop adds about 20 hp to the plastic engine cover 😂🤣

@czthjvv

5 жыл бұрын

That's true

Still Driving my 2003 Frontier XE. Can't beat the reliability and towing of this small truck. Keep your new ones! Mine will probably outlast me.

@patrickberry1460

5 жыл бұрын

2004 Frontier XE, just clicked over 300,000 miles and still pushes forward. Has a lot of issues, but it always gets me from point A to B. Worth buying it again.

@MrMshep79

5 жыл бұрын

I wanted a new truck, but wanted a proven design. 2019 pro4x in in my driveway, and it is awesome.

Go with the Frontier since it’s probably the only Nissan left that is reliable and it only took 10 years or more to get all the bugs worked out. The early 2005 to 2008 Frontiers had issues with coolant leaking into the transmission. Plus when the new Frontier comes out it’ll cost more and have early teething issues and probably a CVT 😂

@devildog5354

5 жыл бұрын

Nissan didn't put a CVT on the Titan; they won't put one on the Frontier. It's not a truck transmission...

@kriskazecki6701

5 жыл бұрын

Paul von Helger Yeah, I know. But they did disgrace the Pathfinder with a CVT

@seantaylor2683

5 жыл бұрын

@@kriskazecki6701 - The Pathfinder no longer lives up to it's name. It's just a fwd based crossover

@davidkutschke54

5 жыл бұрын

@@kriskazecki6701 They made the Pathfinder a soft people carrier. The Xterra was the true successor to the Pathfinder. Same engine, chassis, drive line, and similar suspension. Same off road capabilities too.

@anthonymolina7416

5 жыл бұрын

The rest of the world has a new frontier u.s didn’t get it yet

Nissan SV 4x4 manual No brainer, no frills, killer truck.

@nicholasmapes

5 жыл бұрын

I've got a pro4x manual, but honestly, an SV with upgraded suspension and an aftermarket rear locker and youd be just as capable probably for less money.

@Bru946

4 жыл бұрын

trix4free Aye that pro 4x sticker is really adding the capability here don't forget😂😂

I have yet to find a Toyota dealer that will sell a Taco for below MSRP. Usually they tell me there's a wait, and as such, buyers are having to out-bid eachother... Most Tacos never see dirt (like most Frontiers, Wranglers, ....) Nissan dealers are always offering at least a $2k discount... Which leaves me a $15k budget for upgrades on a Frontier P4X.... Guess what... for about $5k you can get (aftermarket) REAL sliders (not steps that will catch on every rock), steel skids, steel or Aluminum plate winch bumper, and 3" lift with King shocks..... Mileage, I average 17/19... my buddie's Taco never manages the EPA figures... he gets 17/18 My primary criticism is the radio... but again, with the purchase savings, you can upgrade the head unit... The crawl control is only for those that aren't interested in learning to wheel... and again, my buddy disables it more than he uses it, as it gets him stuck more than unstuck.

@JohnDoe-nz6bk

5 жыл бұрын

Yea! In my area, there is a 5 grand market adjustment for them. However, they took 9 grand off my 4Runner, which I now regret buying!

@reyperez3424

5 жыл бұрын

You need to look outside if your comfort zone, for example the Prius no discount blah blah blah 150 miles away from home dealership they were willing to offer me $4170 discount Tacoma $3500 discount and you get a great deal at the end of month and on June July and August

@f1y7rap

5 жыл бұрын

@@reyperez3424 No, I'm talking a 150-200 mile radius from where I live... From teh canadian border to NJ to Ohio... you can't find a discounted Taco in the northeast. And when you go outside of what's a "reasonable" drive (seriously, who is going to drive 8+hrs one way) to save even a few thousand... by the time you finish with the ancillary costs you're back to what it costs locally.

I have a 2016 Nissan Frontier Desert Runner and I love it. I bought it used with 11,000 miles like new for $21,000 in 2018. It looks just like the one in this video it's the same color and has the same wheels and tires. The Desert Runner package has the 4WD suspension wheels and tires but is just 2 WD. It has all the options I need in a truck. Power windows, locks, mirrors, cruise, intermittent wipers, Bluetooth, automatic transmission, a nice stereo system, sliding rear window, bed liner, Bilsien shocks, etc, etc. I can buy two like mine and have $9,000 left for the price of the Tacoma in the video. I can go on a lot of hunting and fishing trips with all that money I saved and I still have a really nice truck. More power to those of you who buy the Tacoma it's a really nice truck but I will stick with my old outdated Nissan and use the leftover cash for other things.

I owned a bright red 2010 pro4x for 9 years. Mechanically flawless, i loved the way it looked and drove full the day i traded it. I was able to buy a very nice f150 because the nissan was still worth 40%of what i paid. Love my new ford, but that little truck was SO hard to walk away from... I like the Tacoma but nissan is where the value and reliability is. They fixed the timing chain wear problem and worked out that pesky transmission self destruct issue and the design is so solid.

@BL_Denni

5 жыл бұрын

Tacomas retain 76% of their value

@JJustinXu

5 жыл бұрын

Toyota has best reliability.

@P4X1279

5 жыл бұрын

@@BL_Denni really? After 9 years?

@P4X1279

5 жыл бұрын

@@JJustinXu ok, then enjoy your Toyota.

@JJustinXu

5 жыл бұрын

P4X1279 I have owned 10 Toyota and Lexus cars the best brands out there. No brand can beat the Japanese.

Am I the only one thats bummed because they didn't even take the trucks off roading?

@mrvwbug4423

5 жыл бұрын

You would be splitting hairs between the two crawling on Colorado jeep trails. The fox shocks really only have an advantage at high speeds. The Nissan has the exact same Bilstein shocks that the TRD Off Road package Tacoma has.

@JamieR2077

4 жыл бұрын

People that own these trucks don't take them off roading so this review is perfect

@BRollOffroad

4 жыл бұрын

@@JamieR2077 i do every weekend.

@JamieR2077

4 жыл бұрын

@@BRollOffroad awesome dude! You the 1%! You broken much stuff doing that?

@BRollOffroad

4 жыл бұрын

@@JamieR2077 not yet and the 7yrs with my 1st gen i didn't have anything major go wrong.

Old is gold

My 06 Frontier is rocking 230k trouble free miles and I still love it!

I've said it before and I'll say it again, l love your channel! I grew up in Estes Park and worked at the Big O in Boulder for years. I used to two my CJ7 to Moab and boat to Lake Powell and always thought going up Vail or Eisenhower would've made a great towing test!

Honestly I’d take the frontier, oh wait I did 👍

@AYouTubeChannelwithNoName

4 жыл бұрын

Ha

I've owed (and still own one) two 2007 Xterras, the Frontier's enclosed brother. They were both rock solid with NO issues. My current X is the most trouble free vehicle I've ever owned. Since they're mechanically identical, the same can be said of a Frontier. Given the choice between the new Taco and new Frontier, I'd take the Frontier, every time. Ohhh, and this is coming from a guy who has owned, since it was new, a 1998 Taco TRD...

My dad has a frontier pro 4x and it's great. No problems and it rides amazing. It's an amazing truck.

That generation of Frontiers were honest trucks. Even the new ones are really nice and simple.

I’m pumped to see the 2020 frontier next year

I own a fully loaded 2005 Nissan Titan LE w/180K... not one problem with it... looking forward to putting another 180K on it. Tech is great but I don't need it... Kudos to the UNDERDOG!!!

@montanawhite5699

5 жыл бұрын

Titan is way better than frontier, sorry but you are comparing apples to watermelons.

@montanawhite5699

5 жыл бұрын

I: Toyota’s and nissans are probably the most reliable truck companies. Idk about the newest generations. But the Nissan hardbody lasted for 300k + easily, and Tacoma’s are always breaking that million mile goal.

@willh.2510

5 жыл бұрын

@@montanawhite5699 my 05 was the 1st year of the 1st gen Titan, 14 years old... This is a brand new Frontier on an architecture almost as old... Comment was about brand reliability and not performance...smh

@montanawhite5699

5 жыл бұрын

Will H. I used to be a Nissan guy myself, I had two 93 hardbodies. Very great reliable truck. High mileage, no problems at all. Only thing was lack of power. I also had a 01 frontier. Decent truck not as good as the hardbody. They keep going down in quality. The new frontiers really need an upgrade, the engine ain’t that reliable neither is the transmission. The only good truck Nissan makes now is the titan. I love Nissan but they gotta step up there midsize. Also, titans have a tighter turning radius than the frontier. How is that possible.

Thank you TFL guys for doing this.

I test drove 6 Tacomas and just never really felt like it was worth the price tag. Then I tested a Frontier and bought it the next day. I've had it over two years now no issues and still loving it.

50k+ and no power seat? Toyota is high.

@cinder9950

5 жыл бұрын

Did you not see the go pro mount???

@patw9175

5 жыл бұрын

The Tacoma is the best selling small truck by FAR. Clearly, the people buying them don't give a shit about the seat.

@Bru946

4 жыл бұрын

Pat W it's a good truck yes but for 50 GRAND. That's almost Ford raptor money..... The taco still doesn't have 4 disc brakes and power seats.

@anom3778

4 жыл бұрын

Who needs an electric seat i mean what the hell you set it once and you never do it again.

@oceanpacific3841

3 жыл бұрын

@@cinder9950 hahah

For the price difference you could supercharge the frontier, titan swap it with an M205 diff, armor it all around and put a winch bumper and a locker in the front

I’ve got a 2016 desert runner. Love the truck and it’s been fun to drive and no major problems.

only had my frontier for a few months, but god I loved that truck...

After watching the video I’m ready to buy my Frontier,thanks guys...👍

My Frontier 12 years old has been great all around with no rust in the snow belt. The current generation introduced in 2004 as a 2005 model year will have examples of this generation on the road for at least the next 15 years bringing the total to around 30 years on the road for the current design. The core design of the truck and the price point Nissan got right.

Really enjoying my 2017 Frontier SV Crew Cab. 41k miles on.

Love the videos. And props for the Stillerz hat.

I didn't think the Tacoma could POSSIBLY be worth $50K, but then I saw the GoPro mount.... LOLThanks, but I'll keep my Frontier SV 4x4. Amazing truck, literally just over half the price.

The Frontier has disc brakes all around.

@CoelhoSports

5 жыл бұрын

so when you're driving down the highway in reverse, you're covered.

@mrvwbug4423

5 жыл бұрын

You don't notice the rear drums on the Taco, it still has really good brakes. Which is a real surprise given the previous gen Tacomas and 4 runners had absolute garbage brakes.

@heres_the_sauce

5 жыл бұрын

Yes and I'm super grateful for that. Didn't even notice till after I bought my truck lol. I don't even remember how to change drum brakes lol

@brycegman8150

5 жыл бұрын

There's good and bad about disc brakes and drums. The trade offs are primarily weight (disc is heavy) clean stopping power (drum has higher surface area) heat management/ fade (disc handles this better assuming you get decent pads) longevity (drums / shoes can last much longer) performance in bad conditions ex: mud (disc are far superior for this.) And don't forget... cost. Drums are cheaper

Still driving my 06 frontier, love the looks, HP, dependability, standard options,roomy interior.

2015 Nissan Frontier, base model, $15,000 crank windows, no power or heated seats, just a basic truck, love it and it came with a 100,000 mile warranty! Does everything I need it to, I added the fog lights, tow package, bed extender and back up camera all for about $500. I don't foresee needing to buy another truck for a long time.

13 mins and absolutely no off-road? C'mon guys! This isn't what you do!

@donniebaynard8430

5 жыл бұрын

Lol!!!!!!!

No, buy a 4-5 year old truck, just toss the shocks and all the stereo in the trash, put new aftermarket in and you're better than a new 2019 and you saved 20-30k

@josem1596

5 жыл бұрын

Ummm.. No.

@ghost-jesus

5 жыл бұрын

2011-down rangers are perfect for this kind of thing, minimal changes over the production life results in easy maintenance, they're cheap, reliable, designed to be easy to work on for the most part, and a lot of years have a single-DIN stereo slot in the stock dash, making aftermarket stereo swaps extremely easy.

❤ I love my Frontier 2018 with the 7G ATM ... so quite, so smooth, so efficiant and reliable

I have a 2012 3l d4d Toyota Fortuner automatic. Man what a machine. Love from South Africa

I'm very happy with my fronty. 24k new. Steal!

@grahamrothphotography

5 жыл бұрын

Leonard Lawrecki what’s your highway mileage?

@lenny7577

5 жыл бұрын

@@grahamrothphotography Maybe 20ish. But I drive just under 2k rpm at 60 mph. I use my old car for stop and go city driving and use this to go to work 80% hwy

@grahamrothphotography

5 жыл бұрын

Leonard Lawrecki thx! Ya I commute highway 98kms round trip, so my goal is something that’s at least 20MPG highway, how many miles per tank? (Canadian as you can tell haha)

Give me the Nissan Frontier every day!

Love my 04 Nissan Frontier. Basic with electric windows and mirrors. Hauls my dirt bike with the tailgate up. But what I really love is it has been payed off for over 10 years and only has just over 107K.

Wow Toyota cost more than my 19’ Rebel after discounts Had a Tacoma years ago and loved it but not $50k love

@SeanP500

5 жыл бұрын

Just a got a new 2019 Ram 1500 Bighorn 4x4 V8 for cheaper as well. That's insane man.

@CoelhoSports

5 жыл бұрын

it costs that much because they took the highest trim and cut a snorkel into the fender and put side steps and every other ridiculous thing they could get. nobody will ever pay close to that for a taco.

@mrvwbug4423

5 жыл бұрын

A Rebel for under 50? Calling BS there, or you live in Texas where they can't give away 4x4s

@mrvwbug4423

5 жыл бұрын

I did look at a RAM 1500 Laramie that was incentived down to 42k, very nice truck, but useless for my needs. It had very little ground clearance and is soo big it needs its own zip code. I ended up buying a TRD Off road Tacoma and love it so far.

@2dthoughts

5 жыл бұрын

mrvwbug44 call BS Lol 😂 Well you’re correct I’m in Texas Lol

My prayers have been answered 🤠

The Pro-4x has all the features I care about in a truck. I'll be buying another when it comes time to replace my 2010. The nice thing is I can pick up a nice used, loaded, low mile one for $20-25k

Last quarter the frontier sold $20,000+ units, I know it doesn't sound like much, but consider that it out sold three other models, and when people start to drive it, they will realize how great it is in comparison! I hope they never change the truck, maybe upgrade the features in time, but continue to give us the consumers this option in a class that is losing it's mind in pricing!

Brand new pro-4x is still cheaper than a lot of pre owned tacomas. I looked at both. Tacoma is more luxurious and has more features but I actually liked driving the frontier more. I ended up getting a pre owned 2018 pro-4x and I really like it. I still get some Tacoma envy (they look sweet imo) but I saved over $10k so I can splurge on some off road goodies to feel better.

@heres_the_sauce

5 жыл бұрын

@Andrew Smith I believe so

@OhYeaMista

5 жыл бұрын

I just got a used pro4x with 9,000 miles for $25,000. Practically new for half the price of that taco.

For about a grand, you can add a lot of those accessories to the Frontier.....Stereo with apple car play, step bars, wireless charging, tailgate struts, etc

@montanawhite5699

5 жыл бұрын

VaDonkey you can buy a trd off-road, for 35k. Pretty much same thing as pro but less fancy. They make it seem like the Tacoma is super over priced, but they got the most expensive one with lots of useless crap. The trd off-road is pretty much the frontier but better.

@s13one80

5 жыл бұрын

@@montanawhite5699 but you get fox shocks, a beefier skid plate and a fake hood scoop. Does it justify the ridiculous mark up for the TRD PRO? Toyota marketing thinks so.

@dedalliance1

5 жыл бұрын

Probably looking at closer to 1.5k to 2k dollars depending on what you buy, a good stereo insert can be 400 to 2,000 dollars alone, running boards are 200 to 600 dollars, no idea on a gas strut for the tailgate, and who cares about wireless charging anyway.

@montanawhite5699

5 жыл бұрын

s13one80 I don’t think it’s worth it, unlesss your rich and or like to show off and care what everyone else thinks about you. Which seems to be 90% of the population now. I just don’t like how they are making it seem like Tacoma’s cost 50k while nissans cost 30k. I’m just saying that the Tacoma’s I always see are priced at 35k or less. I haven’t seen much trd pros or trd limited. Because people aren’t rich.

I bought my 17 Frontier S last year because it was the least expensive truck available. I only wish it had 4wd. It has been completely awesome.

Fun to watch. Made me subscribe.

Nathan makes a lot of good points here about the Frontier, but I can't in good faith take advice from a grown man wearing Sketchers.

@TheFoxyy18

5 жыл бұрын

@MotorcycleMan Yeah I was just making a joke dude, don't really care what shoes people want to wear.

I currently own a 2017 Tacoma 4x4, and it's a literall piece. Poor quality for the money IMO, if I get anything with 4x4 it's going to be a Nissan truck for sure. I own a 90 Pathfinder with CV axles all around, and it still ripped through everything I threw at it.

@danieldavidson8149

5 жыл бұрын

mathewburgos3 what’s wrong with it. I work at a Toyota dealer ship and i have heard nothing but good thing about them and I have never seen anything on the truck that looks out of place

@J-W.-

5 жыл бұрын

@@danieldavidson8149 Tacomas are plagued with horrible transmissions which seems to hunt for gears on highway/some are failing early. Not to mention all the rust/paint problems. Still have cheapo drum brakes.

@mathewburgos3

5 жыл бұрын

@@danieldavidson8149 just like the gentleman below stated. The transmission is probably the biggest gripe, also not to mention the worst seats / seating position. I've also just had a horrendous spree of bad luck with my truck. The other day I was loading rocks into the bed,and the entire bed detached from the right hand pivot side, yes I have picture evidence lol.

@danieldavidson8149

5 жыл бұрын

mathewburgos3 what is the bed side pivot? It’s ridiculous that a brand new truck would have trouble with a load of rock. I have a 1990 Toyota pickup 4x4 and that’s thing is tough as rocks. My dad hauled 4500 pounds in his 1990 Toyota without a problem. Maybe they need to rehire the engineers that build the old ones

@mathewburgos3

5 жыл бұрын

@@danieldavidson8149 im speaking of where the bed inserts it's right side swivel point in! I think your right though, the older stuff from Toyota is untouchable.

I have a 2002 Nissan Frontier with the 4 cylinder engine and a 5 speed manual transmission. 250,000 + miles. I have changed the shocks, tie rods, spark plugs, etc... Still going strong.

We have the 2019 "Big Red" frontier, and it's great! Not only is honest, but the price out the door was awesome, we love the simplicity, and don't have to pay for tech we don't use! Nissan!

I liked this Frontier commercial.

Thats a wide money gap for basically the same truck

@montanawhite5699

5 жыл бұрын

Randy Bryant not really the same truck at all. And that’s the top of the line most expensive Tacoma. You can get a trd off-road or sport for same price as the frontier. Tacoma has way better technology. More sound dampening. Just better quality. But if you just want a basic truck to get you from a to b for cheap, it’s the frontier. Our company just bought a 2019 frontier, the cheapest package. But I wouldn’t buy it for my personal truck, or daily driver. It’s like comparing a regular wooden chair to a office rolling chair. Both have same function, but what would you rather sit on?

@ALMX5DP

5 жыл бұрын

Montana White I’d rather have a truck that doesn’t break the bank. Your argument for the TRD Sport could apply to Tacoma owners as well, why would they pay for the Pro model? What would they rather sit in or own? The Nissan is still a very good option if you aren’t concerned with having the latest and greatest. I’d like to know fuel economy differences but suspect the Nissan will show its age in that regard.

@randybryant9936

5 жыл бұрын

@@ALMX5DP you make a lot of since but im a poor boy got to make my money stretch

@ALMX5DP

5 жыл бұрын

Randy Bryant hey you and me both. There’s a reason I have a single cab Tacoma, though if I can ~$30-40k I would likely spend it on a 1/2 or 3/4 ton since towing is more important to me than back seat, features or offroad ability.

@mbsnyderc

5 жыл бұрын

@@montanawhite5699 I don't need any of that technology I don't have it now and don't miss any of it.

very entertaining video guys. great job !

That Frontier was nominated for an Oscar for it supporting role in Jurassic Park. The Tundra was also in that movie.

TRD will be awesome as a used truck.

@lexwaldez

3 жыл бұрын

but the OffRoad... not the Pro. Stickers and fake hoodscoops... I HATE FAKE PLASTIC SHIT ON MY TRUCK. Hell I'd pay extra to remove that shit.

@nlopez8294

3 жыл бұрын

TRD= great marketing!

@nlopez8294

3 жыл бұрын

Guys who buy new TRD are just gonna upgrade to more “fashionable” suspension anyways so what’s the point in spending all that money 💰. But then again your money not mine. So who the F cares what u buy.

@daviddaniel2198

3 жыл бұрын

Frontier is much cheaper used.... tacoma well mind as well buy one new of not factory certified preowned

@mauricemotors8207

3 жыл бұрын

@@lexwaldez 50k for drum brakes? No thanks

If I’m dropping the kind of money Toyota is asking for the Tacoma then I’m buying a Jeep Gladiator.

@worldofwisdom617

5 жыл бұрын

Jeep,?!? hope you enjoy sitting at the service department.

@dchawk81

4 жыл бұрын

A Gladiator is worse. Lol.

Omg ive been waiting for this forever!

Picked up my Frontier with 20,000 miles for $18k. At the end of the day it's all about value.

Could you please spend more time testing these head to head?