straight to the point, no bs, exactly what i was looking for.

@20Something-YT

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Matt, I try to get straight to the content. Would appreciate a sub if you see value in this content!

@leeinwis

4 ай бұрын

I like turtles .

in my county a new model costs 7500-7800€ and the old model (2015 - 2018) prices are about 5500 up to 7000€ so there is no question in buying the new one

@20Something-YT

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely that’s ridiculous for the second hand market! - I’d appreciate a sub if you like this content!

@neurflerat2693

Жыл бұрын

Sweden?

@stunter_pt7506

Жыл бұрын

Same in portugal ... even more absurd sometimes but ye

@michaelf3805

Жыл бұрын

In the US I’m seeing most used for 7,000 and new is 7,900 so its not even worth the risk of buying a used bike in my opinion

@vendels4154

Жыл бұрын

dont forget that used bikes sometimes have lots of mods, or aftermarket exhaust, etc which justifies the extra price. But yeah. I think for a value/price ratio new is better in this case

I have the 2018 model. It doesn't have the new electronic tech but the styling is very similar, i believe the seats are the same. It has the headlights of the old mt09 and personaly it looks better then the old or new mt07. It also has all the issues of the older models fixed. You can find them with low miles at an affordable price.

@20Something-YT

Жыл бұрын

That’s a really good point! They did upgrade the seats on those from the original as well which helps on longer trips - sub for more content like this!

This video convinced me to pull the trigger on a 2023 MT07. Thanks for the info

Great video! The exact info I was looking for!

@20Something-YT

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I’d love a subscribe if you’d like to see more like this

You deserve more subs my dudes. Great videos!! Appreciate the content

@20Something-YT

Жыл бұрын

Haha thanks again man I really appreciate it!

I have a '22 MT07 ... and on the headlight note. Night time, it's "enough" light but there are better bikes out there. In the daytime - I run with high beams on JUST to be seen. So many almost collisions where other motorists just didn't see me. Other than that... it's a great bike. It's light, agile and fun to ride. :)

@20Something-YT

Жыл бұрын

The agility helps as well in a close call 100%

@mtmatt8958

Жыл бұрын

You can order LED low beams and running lights for under $30, it's the best upgrade I've done

I ended up ordering the 23 model. I am one of the (seemingly few) who likes the new screen. Also nice that it comes with quickshift pre-wired. And the used marked is really expensive here, so there really wasnt that big of a jump to a new bike. The local dealer starts the 2023 model at around 16.000 AUD. A lot of the used 22 models sit around 12.000 AUD, and I honestly didnt find it worth the saving. Also, my biggest reason: I get to see the milage tick past 1km, 69km, 100km, 420 km, 999 km and so on :D

@20Something-YT

Жыл бұрын

the enjoyment of having a no other owner bike that you KNOW hasn’t been thrashed is awesome especially if you want to put a sneaky turbo on at some stage! - ps would be super appreciative of a sub if you’d like to see more of these!

@kristian3472

Жыл бұрын

@@20Something-YT you got it! Good luck with the channel :)

@simondllr998

Жыл бұрын

12.000 vs 16.000 between 2022 and 2023? Damn that's a bigger gap than here in Sweden. Here it's 80000 SEK for a brand new 2022 and over 70000 SEK for some used 2020's. While a brand new 2023 would cost 90000 SEK. Seems like a good idea to go for 2023.

@danielredziniak2996

Жыл бұрын

just put a deposit down on a 22 for 8,400 OTD

@eskilhammerengen4786

Жыл бұрын

I did the same💪🏼Ordered a brand new one with the TFT display

My 3015 does me just fine, it's my first bike and i'm still in love with it.

Yo tengo MT 2016 y mantiene su esencia original. La mjor

@20Something-YT

Жыл бұрын

Great bikes! - would love a sub if you like the content

OMG! It shows the temperature.

@20Something-YT

Жыл бұрын

Yes!

During the pandemic demand was really high. The price difference between brand new and 1 year old bike was literally 800 dollars. So I just went ahead and bought brand new. That way I have a warranty and I have a bike that I know that hasn't been abused.

Cool. What is the upright seating position like on the open road? Is the suspension as bad as they say in the canyons?

@20Something-YT

Жыл бұрын

If you haven’t done much riding the suspension isn’t going to make much of a difference to you at all. Completely useable it’s just obviously not a sport bike

Ive a 2015 model i have it 5 years. bought it with 4500kms. bought it for €4400. it now has 40k odd kilometres .probably service it every 18 months if i think of it 😅i do wheelies stoppies burnouts daily. have looked at the newer models but my bike is still in great condition i dont care about the looks been dated my bike gets more attention than my mates newer models cause mine is constantly on the back wheel 🤙

That Akro sound is serious

Is the newer model lower than the older? It looks it in this video or is it just camera angles?

wee have the same old model, and you are right new models are very expensive.

@20Something-YT

Жыл бұрын

They’ve definitely updated what people didn’t like about the old model but fundamentally they’re very similar underneath. Ps would love a sub if you’d like to see more content like this!

18'-20' has the best looking headlight the halogen can easily be swapped for LEDs.. The new model probably has better suspension, and updated dash. But I love my 2019 and I'm keeping it

@20Something-YT

Жыл бұрын

If you’ve already got the 2019 absolutely no reason to upgrade! They’re both great bikes

@TeslaTrips

Жыл бұрын

sadly the suspension is dogshit on both old and new MTs , it works ofcourse but if you really want a propper front end the R1/R6 front end is the way to go . 1gen mt09 847cc( 2014-2017 ) - Only ABS as option nothing else 2gen mt09 847cc ( 2018-2020 ) - Adjustable suspension, traction control, ABS, slipper clutch, LED headlights, and updated styling 3gen mt09 890cc ( 2021-present ) All of the above + new engine . my first mt09 was a brand new 2015 model , sold it last year and bought a 2021 gen 3, sold it and bought a 2018 . the 2nd gen 18mod i have now is by faar the most fun of them all to ride(black widow exhaust with decat, and riding 15-54 instead of stock 16-45 sprockets.) the 3gen is ALOT better in corners tho .

I have a 16 fz07. I had to put renthal handlebars on it because the OE were super narrow and my wrists were super uncomfortable. It helped considerably. The seat however is just horrible.

@20Something-YT

11 ай бұрын

Yeah I did eat my words I used to think it wouldn’t make that much of a difference

@lilnips

9 ай бұрын

How’s it holding up? Planing to get one used coz we don’t have the new ones

I have Yamaha Nmax 125, I can't even imagine driving without ABS... I plans to buy a used MT 07 in coming days

@20Something-YT

11 ай бұрын

I haven’t heard of those! Big difference in power between the 125s and the 650’s you’ll be pleased!

Go brand new! Warranty, latest tech, 0 miles, slower depreciation, better looks/graphics, 100% reliability, dealer support, clean title. No maintenance history or lack of to worry about. Buy new all day!

@20Something-YT

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for bringing up warranty I 100% should have brought that ip

Ironic is that on the newer models they switched the silver parts for all black ones, but put silver pipe covers on the front.

My local dealer has 23’ mt07 7899. Brand new. Looked at used ones found a 15’ for 5800 with 17000 miles. Definitely will get a new one 😂

@20Something-YT

Жыл бұрын

Hey there, thanks for letting me know I’m assuming you’re in the states? $7,899USD is roughly $12,000AUD, if the earlier models are that expensive where you are I’d seriously consider a brand new one!

@heavyartillery9633

Жыл бұрын

Yes sir houston tx.

@brandonrides

Жыл бұрын

@@heavyartillery9633have you bought your 2023 yet??

@m3etre

Жыл бұрын

Same case in germany. Only problem is new Models have Euro 5 and therefore are really quiet compared to older ones. Still bought the new one and I’m happy with my 2022 MT07 :)

@heavyartillery9633

Жыл бұрын

@@brandonrides not yet

I bought a brand new MY 07 2023 in May, since the prices between a 2 years old one with no history on the vehicle and kind of shady dealers we have here in Bulgaria when it comes to motorcycles, are 500-700 Euro cheaper for the used one. Soooo, yea! No way I won't give 500 more for a brand new bike to remove the stickes on the dashboard :) :). Waiting for it in the beggining if July, hopefully!!

@20Something-YT

Жыл бұрын

That’s awesome you won’t regret buying one! Congratulations!

I have a 2016 MT07..I think I'm up to around 10,000 miles now but I'm not 100% sure. The cluster died and I had to replace it and it reset the odometer to zero lol. It's a great bike. I have the akra exhaust and KN air filter with power commander tune and R6 throttle tube. It's a little torque monster I really enjoy it. I use angel GT tires.

@20Something-YT

Жыл бұрын

Glad you’re getting as much enjoyment out of it as I have!

The new headlight is ok...until you have to wipe out the insect road kills 😆...

@20Something-YT

Жыл бұрын

Buying a second toothbrush for the job 😂 - ps I’d love a subscribe if you want to see more content like this!

Here in México the used ones are about $5,000 to $7,000 and new ones are $12,000 USD

@20Something-YT

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like used is the way to go for those prices! - feel free to sub if you like the content

How are the front forks and suspension? I have a 2018.

@20Something-YT

Жыл бұрын

No noticeable difference between the two!

What is the location for review of the new MT? It is a very nice neighbourhood.

@20Something-YT

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Australia

yes

@20Something-YT

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

There is an 2023 mt07 for around 7000euro stock with just 18 km driven and a 2019 for 6600euro and 16000km, now the 2019 does have an akrapovich too, hard to decide, any tip? Will be my first bike and doing alot of research

@20Something-YT

2 ай бұрын

I’d go the facelift for that price difference for sure!

I had a 2021 MT-07 and it was the biggest piece of crap I ever rode. Now I have a CB750 Hornet, now that's a serious motorcycle and I've had a lot of bikes since 1992.

@20Something-YT

Жыл бұрын

Awesome bikes the hornets!

The older model looks better than the new

@20Something-YT

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment, I like the old one because it looks thinner! Would love a subscribe if you’d like to see more content like this.

@weirdchamp7790

Жыл бұрын

👍

It’s a love hate relationship for me. The new headlight, I love. The new tail, is too wide. The taillight is gross. The TFT is a nice addition but poorly executed. I want a 2015 motor with the bronze clutch cover, 2015 tail section, 2015 white color, 2020 headlight, and just a TFT that looks good. Or the original cluster. I’m legitimately contemplating getting a 2015 tail and seeing if it bolts up. But then I can’t find matching blue 🙃

@20Something-YT

Жыл бұрын

I’m in complete agreeance with this statement

The problem is, in my area, all of the used mt07s have been stunted out and absolutely abused. Not going to buy a bike that's been dropped hundreds of times and beat tf out of.

@20Something-YT

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunate that’s the case! Many have been stunted and rode by people not caring for them properly. Just gotta find a diamond amongst the rough!

@Xwii610

Жыл бұрын

@@20Something-YT was searching for a good condition used my for a while, and all I saw were stunt bikes that were beaten the shit out of, and obviously dropped dozens of times. Finally saw a dealer got a new 2023 in and pulled the trigger on that.

You don't need a new Mt07 or Mt10. Mainly cosmetics. The Mt09 was really upgraded - revised chassis, stronger engine, better display.

@20Something-YT

Жыл бұрын

Dead right! - would appreciate a sub if you like this content!

@davidbetty

Жыл бұрын

Agreed!

Does anyone here know the exact model/year that the ABS came as standard? I hear a lot about this has ABS but "Older ones don't". I'd hate to waste time looking at a bike assuming it had ABS only to find it didn't...

@20Something-YT

Жыл бұрын

Great question! 2018 onwards ABS came as standard! Feel free to subscribe for more content like this!

@motomonkies-nl

Жыл бұрын

You can easily spot the ABS ring on the bike tho, takes just as long as to look at the model year its made

If you have the money and don't need to get a loan go for the brand new always ❤

@20Something-YT

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely!

Bought a brand new mt 07 2022 from the dealer for 7400 eur. Think I got a pretty good deal.

@20Something-YT

Жыл бұрын

That’s just shy of what they’re worth here in Australia! I’d say that’s a good deal - would be thankful for a sub if you appreciate this style of content

I own the 2022 , BUT : the good old rust is still there 😂

@20Something-YT

Жыл бұрын

Can’t escape it in some places unfortunately! Hopefully I’ll be reviewing an mt09 next thanks so much for the sub as well!

@drbigmix7752

Жыл бұрын

Just had my 2021’s swing arm and coolant pipes replaced under warranty coz of the rust. Selling it before it crumbles away. If it had a better finish, I’d have kept it. Not paying for a new swingarm each year now my warranty is up. Paid 6.8 new in U.K. got 5 back trade in. Could have got more maybe but trade in was easy.

@davidleonard8369

Жыл бұрын

@@drbigmix7752 how did you pull that off. It comes with a one year warranty. I have a 2022 and the warranty expired months ago.

Never heard of AkrapoviK, but what you have there is AkrapoviCH (if you can't read Slavic letters).

@20Something-YT

11 ай бұрын

I’m not too sure which one is the right one but there is many people that say both

@impact0r

11 ай бұрын

@@20Something-YT Earth is either round, or flat. I'm not sure which one is the right one, but there's many people that say both. If only there was a way to check? Hmm... Something like the Internet, "read out loud" function of Google Translate, or maybe just listen to what a Slav tells you?

@20Something-YT

11 ай бұрын

Ok mate.

The older ones sound so much better

@20Something-YT

Жыл бұрын

The newer one had a baffle in as well! The Akra is a much more expensive exhaust

@kidrax2533

Жыл бұрын

@@20Something-YT yes. What I am sure of is that in Europe old models are way louder and with less catalyst so they sound much better than new models. I ride a tracer 7 2021 euro 5 and it doesn't sound at all like the tracer of my friend from 2018...

My 2015 MT07 has 77000 km on it, do you even ride bro?

@20Something-YT

11 ай бұрын

Hahahaha I take a lot of bikes home from work my friend, wasn’t always riding the mt

This is a 2014 MT-07/2021 07 comparison video. I'm not sure why I'm listening to the differences between the two bikes...

@20Something-YT

10 ай бұрын

Because you clicked on a comparison video

@metaldreams3595

10 ай бұрын

@@20Something-YT No, I clicked on a "Do you really need a brand new MT-07?" video.

Here in Germany the old ones are 6.000€ and the new ones 8.000€...

@20Something-YT

Жыл бұрын

I’ve had a few comments about a gap like this!

MT 07 v2????

@EnrEkr7075

Жыл бұрын

inline twin. but, 270° crank shaft

@20Something-YT

Жыл бұрын

They call it a parallel twin! Would love a sub if you both like this content

How do you guys get used bikes for so cheap? There is a 1k difference for me between new and old MT07 woth 40k miles on it. 😆 😅

I have a 2020 version of MT07 and prefer it by far compared to these two

@20Something-YT

Жыл бұрын

I tried to get my hands on the mid model as well for this video but I couldn’t find one unfortunately

Didnt talk about the upgraded Motor

@20Something-YT

Жыл бұрын

Hey thanks for your input, I wasn’t aware of any mechanical changes to the motor, it’s pretty much the same, what changes were you referring to?

your back hurting on long rides wtf i have a 2015 mt 07 i am 182cm tall i can ride like 3 hours no problrm no back problems

@20Something-YT

Жыл бұрын

Maybe I’m just an old man hahaha

It's Akrapovich (ć)

@20Something-YT

8 ай бұрын

Hahaha I never know how to say it

1 gen hace more HP torque than 3 gen casue eur4 to 5

@20Something-YT

Жыл бұрын

It might be a little different where you are but in Australia there’s a 1HP difference between the old and new (higher being the old) - and I believe this is due to the tuning they’ve done smoothing out the throttle on the new model a bit. Not much can be done about emissions laws unfortunately! - ps would love a sub if you enjoy this type of content!

I got to say this information definitely helped me out but Jesus Christ. Are these bikes going for a lot over by you. I bought mine for 5700 in Florida. Secondhand.

@20Something-YT

10 ай бұрын

Thanks man - keep in mind I’m in Australia so 5700usd is $8,900aud hahaha

How can you make a video about these bikes and not have shit stained seats cleaned before hand

@20Something-YT

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately my friend didn’t have it cleaned for me and I didn’t have time.

The old version is probably the most boring and ugly headlight ever, otherwise an amazing bike. You simply have to change that headlight on the old version to some aftermarket one

@20Something-YT

10 ай бұрын

I like the circular led street fighter headlights

@DigitalSamTV

10 ай бұрын

​@@20Something-YTyeah for sure. Also the twin agressive lights on the mt09 and mt15 etc were awesome (not sure why the mt07 skipped that whole generation of lights)

@20Something-YT

10 ай бұрын

@@DigitalSamTV yeah I 100% agree with you

No you dont infact older one is better

@20Something-YT

Жыл бұрын

Personally that’s my opinion. - ps I’d love a subscribe if you want to see more content like this!

Thinking a lot about visuals is pretty gay. All that matters is how it feels to ride. If any dumbass asks you why you don't get a bike that looks a certain way, the best answer is usually "...do you have a bike?" To me, talking endlessly about the look of a bike is like asking a guy about his shoes. Like... wtf? This isn't pointed at you OP just thinking out loud

@20Something-YT

Жыл бұрын

In all honesty there’s not much difference in the drivetrain between the two bikes! Other than aesthetics and some minor improvements the original bike is much the same! That’s why I think you’re better off saving some money

@hexerey

Жыл бұрын

imagine using gay as an insult

MT-07 ???... no thanks😁😁😁😁

@20Something-YT

11 ай бұрын

:’(

Definitely buying a new one, I know how people ride these bikes..they are getting abused and stunted. Don’t buy another man’s problems

@20Something-YT

Жыл бұрын

They are a little bit of a hoon bike!

No. Because new mt07 is very ugly to me.

@20Something-YT

Жыл бұрын

The styling isn’t for everyone, what do you have?

Incredibly hard to find new MTs in my area. Dealers dont know when theyll get new ones so you leave your number and they will call you. My dealer has a 2019 with Akrapovic FULL exhaust with rear tidy and led blinkers. It has 3700 miles on it. Asking 7800. New models bone stock are 8100 not including fees and delivery which is 500. Is it worth waiting a year or so for a new one or is the 2019 a good value considering the lack of supply? Thanks in advance to anyone willing to share their advice.

@20Something-YT

Жыл бұрын

My take on this is if the lead times are over a few months I’d be purchasing one with as low miles as possible, 1 owner with service records!

new MT for new riders old for men without manginas...

@20Something-YT

11 ай бұрын

Hahaha

yeah so like in my country brand new 2024 MT 07 is like 8000~8500€ and used ones up to 4 years old only costs 1000€ less 😂🥲very hard to find older than that and if you get 2023/2024 model you can get quickshifter so yeah... if im getting one, im getting a brand new one