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This is a small thing, but I really appreciate in your videos that the exterior shots when you are talking almost always match up with the proper time of when you were saying it inside the vehicle. For instance at 5:40 it is clear that your narration is precisely when you were saying it inside the vehicle. Most people would never notice, but for some reason it makes me smile.

I almost stopped watching after the price part. 54k for a small truck. 😮 I think Frontier will be more than enough.

@ShadowBend

4 күн бұрын

I had a 2017 Frontier Pro-4x, Really great truck for the price. I regret selling it. The main thing I upgraded on it was projector headlights, the factory headlights were awful.

@terrymac6866

4 күн бұрын

You can find TRD Off-Roads for closer to $43k. The options are what jack the prices up too high.

@SuperNova23333

4 күн бұрын

$55k actually 🤓 And that’s before taxes

@jasonbaxter2733

4 күн бұрын

@@SuperNova23333 $43k is correct

@glow4417

4 күн бұрын

Frontier is good overall, but not good off-road. The wheel braking and off-road modes do nothing on that truck. The Frontier is not very capable off-road, even with a locker. There are videos on KZread showing how the Frontier gets stuck on obstacles other trucks easily go over.

This is the best video available for showing all the off road features of the Tacoma OR. Toyota should use this as an instructional video.

@1148bucknasty

3 күн бұрын

Almost as if it's an ad

Millions of people have successfully gone off-roading before Toyota offered their PRO models. Toyota's TRD Off-Road offering is more than good enough for the need of 99% of buyers.

My biggest issue with this version of the Tacoma is that it is the same price as the Colorado ZR2, which is vastly superior offroad.

3 grand more you can get top dog ranger raptor. For the same price you can get a FX4 ranger lariat with a 2.7 twin turbo 6 cylinder also with rear lockers and 360 cameras

@disophisis

4 күн бұрын

Weird. How did I not know they were offering the 2.7 in the ranger now? Thanks for the heads up.

@Tungstenisw

3 күн бұрын

Yeah...but the you have to drive Ford Ranger....and tell your friends and family you bought a Ford Ranger....and constantly have to justify why you bought a Ford Ranger....

@noxnyc23

3 күн бұрын

@@Tungstenisw lol just be like hey it’s my money.

@Jaun2Three

6 сағат бұрын

Which company doesn't skimp on frame quality and coatings? That's the most expensive thing to consider if you're buying a body on frame vehicle

I’ll take the Colorado ZR2 for that price 💁🏻‍♂️

TFL and Truck King each broke their new Tacoma. The new Tundra engines are recalled. I'm leary of purchasing the new Tacoma or coming 4Runner. 🥴

From recent reports Nissan sold 20,219 Frontiers from April 24th 2024 to June 24th 2024, or about ~10,109 units per month for May and June Chevy Colorado sold 8,967 units in June, GMC Canyon 3,784 units and the Ford Ranger 4,703 units Toyota sold 14,929 Tacomas in the month of June 2024 alone

@Reu_ag

4 күн бұрын

Really? I thought the tacoma's are piling up on dealer lots

@dsp5196

4 күн бұрын

Cause talking sh!t generates clicks.

@DarkDramon

4 күн бұрын

​@Reu_ag toyota is still struggling from the covid supply chains, they are one of the few manufacturers that can't really keep a lot of inventory. Their reputation is keeping them at the top, but with the recent drive train issues that might cause some inventory to start piling up

@dsp5196

4 күн бұрын

@@DarkDramon once again, clickbait... The driveline issues are completely overblown .

@terrymac6866

4 күн бұрын

@@Reu_ag What you would think if you only get your data from YT videos.

I hope it doesn't break

Excellent testing. You work these things harder than most of the other reviewers. Always enjoy your efforts. I know what it is like to do these things. LOT of time involved in the whole process. Respect.

I bought a 24 trd off road 5th gen 4Runner. It has all the same options except the disconnecting sway bar. It does have KDSS. I have no turbos. I’m extremely happy with it.

@Shmity1962

3 күн бұрын

Just bought one too

The shots from the drone makes this video top notch.

Absolutely love your videos, we watch them like a ritual because it gives us a really great mindset on what cars we are interested in buying and if they are going to meet the needs we have for them. We definitely do appreciate them and thank you Ryan for doing this for us.

No kidding, I stopped the video after seeing the price. Toyota is a bit confused on their truck pricing.

@wes3527

4 күн бұрын

yeah the last TRD Offroad I bought was fully loaded for $38,500 not too many years ago

@Xencer

2 сағат бұрын

people who object at the price only look at fully loaded and fully optioned trucks, DERP

i paid less for my 24 zr2 and i would have that over any of the tacoma offerings

Toyota needs to offer a larger fuel tank. 18.2 gallons is not enough for towing and remote areas. Even with the better fuel economy, it lost 30 to 40 miles range vs the 2023.

@showmemorefunthings9208

4 күн бұрын

Reducing the fuel tank size is one way manufacturers use to increase payload. I suspect that's what Toyota did to boost their number because it's been one of the worst.

@ryanb8736

4 күн бұрын

@@showmemorefunthings9208True. Toyota has always had awful payload.

@beexiong2995

4 күн бұрын

Owners are getting the same range as previous gen with the smaller tank in the real world. I had a 21 offroad and averaged 220-280 miles in the city. 370 on hwy. It was horrible on gas in the city worse than my V8 GX.

@elonsus9747

4 күн бұрын

I could get 330 miles in the city with my 13’ 4.0 double cab. It was on fumes by then, but I made do. A little over 400 on the hwy.

@planoman0935

3 күн бұрын

@@beexiong2995 Agree. We have a 2023 and 2024 off roads and they about the same range. Maybe a tad more on the 2024. I usually fill up at 350 miles in city.

Love to see a list rating Vehicles abilities to do your various trails. Like the ladder.

My bro just got 24 zr2 and so incredible its the same price as a offroad tacoma

You make the best videos Ryan! I know how much work goes into making them.

A few months back I had planned on buying a 2024 Tacoma until I sat in one. I am 6 feet 215lbs and frankly I found it quite cramped( especially below the waist). Then I went and sat in the 2024 Colorado ZR2 . It was far more comfortable. It also turns out the Tacoma is a bit of a lemon . So, now I am decided on waiting for the 2025 Colorado zr2 .

@ryanb8736

4 күн бұрын

Doesn’t the plastics in the ZR2 bother you? I was very disappointed in the plastic interior pieces. Lots of creaks. Looks very cheap inside.

@Xencer

2 сағат бұрын

Tacoma ain't no lemon, wait til you put some miles on that colorado

Its a good thing you didn't do anything hard today. Toyota definitely don't want another youtuber to break the Tacoma. They are definitely under trouble / bad reputation and don't want another. These are everyday light duty trucks and not meant to hard offroad now. Surely Toyota can build them tough but most likely to cost $100K with pathetic economy we have right now.

Granted the TRD has some cool options like the MTS, better turning radius. But you can get a fully equipped Frontier pro4x for almost $10k less and gets only 1mpg less than this.

@beexiong2995

4 күн бұрын

The current frontier is more similar to the last gen taco and is priced similarly. Not surprising. Even the last gen had mts and crawl features. Nissan has none of that. Just abls

@planoman0935

3 күн бұрын

check the MPG for a frontier. The 2024 tacoma is 21 combined 19 city and 23 hwy and that is what I get after 4000 miles. I test drove a 2023 frontier pro 4x and do not remeber the mpg being close to that.

@JRs-guitars

3 күн бұрын

@planoman0935 18 city, 22 highway. I test drove one on the highway and got 22 without really trying. Let's be honest...most of us would choose a reliable V6 even if it was 2 or 3 mpg worse.

@JRs-guitars

3 күн бұрын

@beexiong2995 that is true but when would you ever really need MTS? Albs, 4low and a rear locker is all you should ever need anyway.

@planoman0935

3 күн бұрын

@@JRs-guitars Not sure most of us would since the Tacoma sold 69,500 in first half of 2024 and Frontier sold 40,000 with huge incentives off msrp not to mention much worse value retention.

I was in the market for a good, off-road truck recently and wanted to get a Tacoma TRD Pro based on previous years. Then I saw that it wasn't released yet. Bummer... but OK. Then I saw the price increase. BIG bummer... and NOT OK. Then I saw the price for a decently-optioned TRD Off-Road (and confirmed in your video). HUGE bummer. Then I started hearing the news of failures in the line-up... coupled with the failure(s) in the Tundra... and saw how Toyota responded. So I did something I never thought I'd do - I bought a Chevrolet (still kinda makes me question myself after owning nothing but Japanese vehicles since the early 2000s), a 2024 Colorado ZR2. And I love it! MUCH more capable than the Tacoma TRD Off-Road, looks better (IMO), and it is less expensive! I seriously don't understand why people are paying what they are for anything in the Tacoma line. Sorry, Toyota - big whiff on this.

Nice, but waaayyyy too much money. Where are the affordable mid size trucks these days? This truck costs $69,400 in Canada, with Ontario taxes, for the no-option TRD Off-Road Premium. Sixty Nine thousand dollars!!! The top tier (in Canada) Trail Hunter costs an Aneurism-inducing 97,200 with taxes. No words. Good video, as always, Ryan. At least it’s entertaining even if I can’t afford this thing.

Im getting mine this weekend, it has a roof rack and the predator steps on it already and is the bronze oxide color way, can’t wait !

For this kind of money, I will rather get a Ford F-150

really good job done - thanks a lot!

FINALLLLYYYY!!! We've been waiting for this!!! You slacked on this video I will sad ☹️ but it's here now so 👍🏽 You should do one on the Base SR5 4x4 since that's the one that's been sold more than any other trim

The Tacoma is made in Mexico, they pay approximately $3 dollars an hour and they lowered the powertrain. Toyota is crazy.

@smittysmitty481

4 күн бұрын

You are 100% correct. Toyota is being very transparent about being greedy!

@ryanb8736

4 күн бұрын

Toyota has been making the Tacoma in Mexico for many years. Nobody complained about older model. Did you just find out all of a sudden?

@beexiong2995

4 күн бұрын

You think that's bad, look up lithium mining and refining for evs and why Americans outsource that lol 😂

@smittysmitty481

4 күн бұрын

@@ryanb8736 Prior generations of Tacomas were made at Toyota’s San Antonio TX plant.

@ryanb8736

4 күн бұрын

@@smittysmitty481 Yes. How many years ago?

Ryan, There is nothing very mid-sized about mid-size pickups these days so I really can't understand why the back seats are so cramped. 🤨

WAY too expensive. That’s a $985/mo payment at 72mos term length for a midsize truck. $10k down brings it down to $814/mo. For a midsize truck. Insane.

Great video thanks

Agreed, this is all most will ever need......it's just way too expensive. If I'm spending mid $50k for a mid size truck....I would rather get a full size truck, or save a few and grab a Colorado ZR2.

thanks you for sharing.

I think I’d rather have a Bison or Ranger Raptor.

Love your off road reviews. For the money, I’ll take the Frontier.

nathan from tfl will be proud of you for you using his method momentem

Awesome video. I'd like to see something similar with a lower end SR5.

I think those that go on these trails often would have probably lifted their trucks and put on MT tires. Nice to know that this OR can handle most stuff thrown at it without too much problem. I think the majority of the owners never even attempt these trails.

Best review of the Tacoma offroad period!

That price is insane

awesome video as always! Does the locker come on quickly now or is it the same old thinking about it in the previous gen?

@drivingsports

3 күн бұрын

Came on quick for us.

Great review, This truck would be an off road monster if Toyota offered it in a two door version

The problem is not the vector system on wheels that mimics a real locker, the real problem is you are paying for electronics at the same or higher price than real beefy lockers.

@MrXerxes

3 күн бұрын

Well said!

Good luck trying to find one on a lot.

Tacoma did fine once you found the correct MTS settings and a few scrapes and scratches are expected if you hit the trails. But I get that you didn't want to scratch up your loaner. I agree the tires are not very aggressive. My 23 Off Road has more agressive tires than my 24 off road.

I enjoy your vehicle reviews. Is your Central WA test site in the Wenas? Looks familiar.

@drivingsports

4 күн бұрын

No, we're closer to Cle Elum on the North side of I-90.

I think you can get a Tundra Crewcab with the TRD Offroad for about the same price. Yikes...

@beexiong2995

4 күн бұрын

This is fully loaded with all the options possible minus the hybrid. The previous gen fully optioned was 46k. But that truck was terrible to drive and underpowered for what it is. The base offroad for this new one is 42k and the previous gen was like 38k so a little closer on price. You're paying for the new engine, transmission, and offroad tech. The old truck was ancient for sure I can't imagine paying 50k for that. Had they continued the previous gen truck inflation would have kicked it up to 50k. The tundra is a different beast. A regular doublecab not crewmax trd offroad is around 55k for the base. But because of the recall they are being marked down and rebate nearly 10k.

@trailrunnah8886

4 күн бұрын

Yep, early this year a co-worker got a crew cab SR5 TRD off-road Tundra for 54k.

I was going to get a trd pro but then i said i'd rather buy a brand new house and since they are the same price it was an easy pick. With markup i think the new pro's are 400k.

This truck did everything extremely well. This is a very capable off-road truck. Most people who will buy trem may never take it off road. This is all you need if you are a sane person. If you are a lunatic off-road, no truck will be capable of your needs.

😲 The river Dried Up 🙁 It was a bad omen for grinding the bottom on dry dirt and rocks later on ....😅😉

I love Toyota BUT a turbo 4...bad automatics and even TRUCK KING had a manual fail while testing. TFL had a front diff fail while testing. The best Tacoma was gen 2 with the 4 lifre v6.

@toddmanning7844

3 күн бұрын

Absolutely agree about the gen 2 Taco with 4 L V6. The new Tacoma will take a few years to work the bugs out, and it's 4 cyl. sounds like a noisy sewing machine.

@mikefoehr235

3 күн бұрын

@@toddmanning7844 I have a 20 Tundra with the 5.7 V8. Man that engine is just crazy powerful. Very reliable as well.

Does anyone believe this truck has 11 inches of ground clearance running on what 31 inch tires? Wouldn't be a bad truck if it was closer to 40 grand.

I likes Toyota Tacoma alot.

I paid $28k for my CC 4x4 Frontier. This is not double the truck...

Watch out for the transmission and differential that tend to self destruct

Is the constant tweaking and fiddling with modes necessary? Why not see what the truck does in 4 High and go from there. It would create a baseline for comparisons between models on particular slopes...

is the ground clearance really 11 inches? for example if the lowest point is a shock mount or the rear pumpkin, are they measuring from that?

Great video and review. Do you prefer your Ranger Raptor to this Taco?

@drivingsports

3 күн бұрын

Yes. Very much.

With the Iforce there is also the option of getting the TRD Pro wheels and tires.

Tough to compare what it's doing to tests in very different conditions right after you had cut some of those trails. The growth and compacting of a season hardens the soil a ton and makes traction far better.

@drivingsports

4 күн бұрын

Yup. That is correct. To set reset expectations we brought a Subaru Crosstrek out a couple days later. That video comes out next week.

@swimster144

4 күн бұрын

@@drivingsports Great videos anyways though! Always enjoy your thorough approach and great footage.

Got my base TRD OR 6 spd for 51k CDN, which is something in the range of 38K USD. Absolutely loving the truck.

see if you can get nissan frontier pro4x to test.

54,000 and at 7 percent interest rate so you’re paying around 66,000 for that!! Hell no. Payment also for 48 months 1388.89 with 2500 down

@MrMikeDao

4 күн бұрын

Why would anyone put 2500 down? At minimum 11k down

@apa7611

4 күн бұрын

@@MrMikeDao That was example that’s all guy. Don’t get all uptight dude.

@funnybeingme

4 күн бұрын

@@MrMikeDao Yeah how many people put 11K down (unless they have a trade in)? People prefer zero down if they can.

@beexiong2995

4 күн бұрын

Poor people shouldn't buy anything over 40k. 2500 down-payment is like nothing these days. Know your means and buy a used truck 😂

@beexiong2995

4 күн бұрын

​@@funnybeingmeeating at fast food chains cost 20 bucks a person now. Use to be 10 or less.

14:45 loose dirt/gravel is the MTS Mode you should have used not sand

Ranger Raptor gives you more everything for slightly more cost (assuming you can buy both trucks at MSRP; even this Taco is probably going to run you at least 60k at a Toyota Dealership).

What I want to see is a modified Honda Acty attack or similar and see how one would do. They would need a lift and better tires but would be a fun video. Going to pick up a mini-truck or a Toyota Hiace or Toyoace diesel. Really wish we could get something between a 25 year old Kei truck and a Maverick. Give me a kei size or similar sized truck with a turbo 1.5l for $15k.

It looks like ATRAC got a buff with the new model. Almost Land Rover tier now.

@drivingsports

4 күн бұрын

So good.

@beexiong2995

4 күн бұрын

Yeah I watched another comparo between the ranger and Colorado and taco and the taco required less effort and almost no 4lo.

I think buying this would be crazy when the Ranger Raptor is only a fewK more.

@Tungstenisw

3 күн бұрын

But then your stuck having to drive a Ford Ranger....and justifying to your friend, family and yourself why you bought a Ford Ranger. And all the while....deep, deep, down...you wish you just bought the TACOMA so you could stop justifying and instead simply enjoy your Truck

More stuff and options, more money and more issues to fix

Nothing broke so far

@drivingsports

4 күн бұрын

😂

$55,000 for a Tacoma??? 😂🤣😂🤣

I’ll keep driving my 23 TRD Off Road, double cab, 6’ bed with the premium and technology plugs. I purposefully bought the 23 because I wanted the 3.5L Naturally Aspirated V6 that is a proven, reliable and durable engine. I’m afraid of the Turbo engines of the new generation Tacoma

Only if you want your rear axle to give out

Honestly I don't see a large crowd going straight to a TRD Pro considering the crazy current asked prices. The reality is that many of us would try to convince ourselves the TRD Off-Road is just good enough.

54K for a tacoma is a sin.

@Cringer101

4 күн бұрын

especially a middle of the road taco

The SR5 comes with the same impressive 4wd system minus the locker and terrain management right? I’d imagine even the SR5 is very capable.

I recently saw one of these in person and was shocked at how bad the design and build quality was. Exhaust pipe hanging way out. Rear shock absorbers hanging low. Clunky, loose-fitting trim pieces, and WAY too many electrical controls. Even if it was 10K less in price, it would not be worth it.

Nice looking truck but too expensive for what you get.

Can you do it with the Nissan Frontier Pro4X?

@dominic81634

3 күн бұрын

Yes, a similar test with the Frontier would be great!

Is this one going to be the only version that doesn’t break during the test by a reviewer?

Great pricing!

@JakeJake746

2 күн бұрын

This a joke? 😂

The TRD PRO and TRD Off-Road are both wants, not needs. At 54k, that a lot of want.

99% of people would be better served with a mid-level 4x4 pickup. The test track used by this channel is way more challenging than anything I've ever driven on after decades of driving logging roads in deep snow while hunting. Never once have I reached for a rear locking diff switch or crawl control in all those years...4 high has always been plenty of traction as long as the tires were good. IMO a lot of people have been sold a bill of goods by influencers, advertisers, and manufacturers into thinking spending an extra 10 thousand on unnecessary options is a great idea...it's not. Save your money and spend it on good all-terrain tires...

Dropped in to read all the people whining and crying about price too high, truck breaking, and should buy Frontier.

The TRD Pro comes standard with a $15k dealer markup.

I'm surprised it rubbed that much. Great review, thanks for having the test courses!

Are you crazy 53k for tacoma.

Why does it need a flat screen tv like that’s the biggest downside same with the turbo just ruins the pistons faster. Also probably will have to replace the turbo about 5 times till the engine blows up at 100k miles

Is this all in Utah? Could you share the location? Thanks! :)

@drivingsports

Күн бұрын

We have a couple private off-road courses in Washington state. This one is located outside of Ellensburg.

Do not use MTS until toyota releases the update or else you may end up stranded like TFLs truck in the snow

How do you keep your cameras clean, all that trail dust.

@drivingsports

4 күн бұрын

Lots of wipes and blowers. 😂

Angles and tires aren’t great. Add to that a lack of factory rock sliders or steel bumpers and it’s clear Toyota is phoning it in and expecting the buyer to spend in the aftermarket as usual.

Love this review. Who needs the TRD Pro? Insecure posers "need" the TRD Pro to go over speed bumps at Costco and their kids' schools. Real overlanders and offroaders buy the cheaper TRD Offroad, mod it, and bang it up in the wild. That's the way it is now, and it will be the same with the 4th Gen.

You'd be taking a gamble if you purchase a Taco or a Tundra with the issues they're having at the moment.

I saw on another video that Tacoma owners are switching to the new Nissan Frontier 🤷‍♂️

@beexiong2995

4 күн бұрын

😂 that's what they all say but they really drive a gm or ford. Better yet a previous gen tacoma. Tacoma hate on hate is the worst

If I wanted a truck, I would definitely buy one of these. Some better tires, and it should be pretty capable!

Was this truck updated with the new software meant to fix the problem TFL had with their ADD breaking?

@drivingsports

4 күн бұрын

I don't expect so. But I don't know for sure.

@duggydo

4 күн бұрын

@@drivingsports the fix Sheldon mentioned was supposed to be a deration of some sort. I was wondering how much it would effect capability vs before the change.

@CharlieParker-dz6fv

4 күн бұрын

Can’t be. Sheldon isn’t even sure how the updates are going to be implemented according to his comments in his latest TFL interview. He also said eta was end of summer.

@duggydo

4 күн бұрын

@@CharlieParker-dz6fv Thanks. I missed that part in the interview.

@drivingsports

4 күн бұрын

@@CharlieParker-dz6fv I had to hedge a bit, since Toyota COULD do it with their press loaners before an official process is out there. But I think it is unlikely to turn-it around so quickly.