Somebody in the Discord made a good point about me (accidentally) excluding the FO32U2 from the conclusion: At $1099, its a VERY attractive way to get into this format. If you've concluded that DP2.1 isn't a big deal to you, its an easy W versus the PG32UCDM at $200 cheaper.

@KaledTV

Ай бұрын

DSC causes issues with multi monitor setup at least with Nvidia GPU, look it up. It's just not worth it buying expensive monitors like these with no DP2.1 unless you swap monitors every year, you will regret it when you upgrade your GPU next time.

@maartenmidden1651

Ай бұрын

Will you also benefit from these kind of monitors for productivity? I want to upgrade Dell 34 wide screen with a 4k 32 inch. I'm not a gamer.

@adamtajhassam9188

Ай бұрын

SRY no its not few problems i found thus i skipped this- the 480 is only stable w certain games only and the color gamit needs help compare to Asus . Also some functions make other options meh at best. ie the response time. Hardware unboxed confluded 1.4 and 2.1 was not a big diference but unless we have a true 2.1 this is just a perfect example of whatto do and what not to do .

@jrlivingspaces

28 күн бұрын

Agreed. My max I'd spend on a monitor was always a grand. 1100 is stretching it but its the absolute max and only because these panels are so dang good. Just backordered one on Newegg!

I have to say. Gigabytes Aorus line the last 2 years has been pretty impressive. Not just for montiors, but gpus and motherboards have been really good 👍

Man I love opening KZread and being greeted with a new Badseed Tech upload. 😎

You have covered the smaller screen modes in more detail that literally any other KZreadr, none of the others could answer my question but you did. Now that I understand how it works, this monitor should work fine for me, but the Asus probably has better quality of life stuff to persuade me if I can find it for a decently close price.

No I dont! I need Displayport 3.0

@studio_beasty

Ай бұрын

3.1!

@eberdelahoya2781

Ай бұрын

Make it 4.0

@MA-jz4yc

Ай бұрын

Need that 8k 1000hz support

@kommandokodiak6025

Ай бұрын

@@MA-jz4yc dont forget the lagless blackframe insertion

@Olat67

Ай бұрын

⁠@@MA-jz4yctoo out dated I think you mean 16k 6300hz

I think I just found my new monitor upgrade. Thank you!

@badseedtech

Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

An excellent review from the best practical-user-based reviewer. Thank you for your time and effort in bringing us your opinion. WOOF!

Tried the LG but the WOLED was not as good for me as the previous QDOLED in the Samsung G8 so I switched it for the Asus SWIFT. Best monitor I ever had. It's only 1.4DP but I do not see it will be a problem in the near 2-3 years.:) In my country the Asus and the Gigabyte is at the same price and I prefer Asus so that's why I get that. Nice review, go hard!

Somehow you are the only youtuber who takes time to speak about aspect modes (idk why). This is kinda sad, these monitors use the same displays so only coating and features sereperate them from each other. Also I totally aggre with you, 32" can be too big for many multiplayer games and having a feature to simulate a smaller monitor is a killer. Thank you for work, keep it up man!

Maann i hope this channel is more popular than it is. One of the pros is i love not having to use 1.5x speed on this channel's videos :p

Great video as always! Thanks to you I get most of my tech from your reviews. I am curious, do you keep the review models or do giveaways for them?

Great video. Thanks

I recently just got the samsung G60S 1440p 360hz OLED. Its the most amazing display I've ever seen lol Great video btw

Paul from Pauls Hardware sent us over in his latest video...Sorry it took so long..G'day from Downunder :) Great content to catch up on.

appreciate the chiller vibes especially of the outro, keep it up

great review, very straight to the point! very minor spec, the type c on this monitor is 65w, not 90w.

I don't want to watch monitor reviews by anyone else any more. This is the best review of this monitor I've seen, focuses on the meat and ignores all the sides, salad and subjective drivel that so many other reviewers spend way too much time on.

Bro.. where do i buy that shirt?

My only concern with DSC or "Display Stream Compression" is the potential for added input delay in the extra processing to compress the data. I would love to see if anyone has done any testing on this to see if there is a performance impact in any way.

@badseedtech

Ай бұрын

Have done testing. The impact to input latency is at .1ms or under. Its a non-issue.

@IStratz

Ай бұрын

@@badseedtech Gotcha yeah that's basically nothing. Appreciate the testing king

@imadecoy.

Ай бұрын

The compression and decompression is done in hardware. In a good implementation it adds latency equal to the time it takes your monitor to scan out one line of pixels. This is often on the order of about 0.000001 ms or so depending on the specific monitor. I don't think even the sweatiest esports gamer can claim that matters.

@ACE112ACE112

Ай бұрын

@@badseedtechNo. I need every excuse for dying

Very awesome now that I have a job and making money I am totally going to upgrade my main 32 qhd to one these OLED gaming monitor bad boys. :)

Hope you can review the Samsung G9 OLED (either the old one or the new one that's just coming out). :)

Not a bad display. It's definately some great features. Just need a software/firmware update to fix some of those issues. the 1000 nits peak brightness is great, but the tracking could be better for sure. It looked really dark even compared to my LG C1.

I’m ex bass player…and I totally am a very “don’t have the finances” audiophile. For me solid state has so much head room, though when it’s full Valve…it’s different flavour of listening. Hybrid amps are good, like the Genz Benz 900 amp (bass amp) though when you are plugged into a full valve amp…the bass has that warmth..and also clarity which shakes your soul, and vibrates your spine 😂👌🏻💪🏻♥️ Side note….bad seed tech is a legit channel, absolutely love these videos Stay up 👌🏻💪🏻

I need that 'Nah Im Good' shirt. Where can I get one?

32U2P wasn't my first choice but it's the only one available at the time i needed a new screen. I was gonna go with 32UCDM but the sucker was never in stock in Sweden. I am happy with my purchase.

@adamtajhassam9188

Ай бұрын

i was in the same boat in Canada - no gigybtte but there was Asus . so i snabbed it.

@imadecoy.

Ай бұрын

I ordered the Samsung in Canada because it could be had for just over $800 CAD. Wasn't ready to upgrade with the price and availability of the others.

@badseedtech Did you pull those numbers with Calibrite's software or something else? I'm getting into monitor testing and am unsure which program will let me get luminace and PQ EOTF figures with the Calibrite.

Since i swap Monitos ever 8 to 10 years, yeah. Having that faster bandwidth for later when I actually use the Monitor for higher refresh rates without DSC would be nice.

come to think of it we do need a PA32UCG-K and an 8k mini-LED monitor review from you

Ooo vrr flicker maybe that’s what I am seeing!! Sometimes my Alienware OLED starts flickering the color temp almost and not really in games, I think I have only noticed it on the desktop though.

I love my AW3225QF from Alienware there all good I just stick with the brand that has never let me down and have had zero issues with AW, and when it’s time to upgrade I post it on marketplace and someone gets a good deal and is happy with a monitor that’s works like it did when I first bought it.

@mrsundaymorning

Ай бұрын

Alienware is under Dell which support Zionist

@majorgear1021

7 күн бұрын

Does it have thunderbolt input?

Can you say that putting APL to Medium in SDR only(max brightness) enhance the gaming experience ? Like a mini HDR mode ? Thank you

Most people saying burn in Bla Bla Bla. Probably has little experience or had an oled and let some static image stay on screen for hours and upon hours even if it wasn’t in use.. My main tv . For movies,Games,Tv including news and sport. Everything daily driver is my 2018 OLED65C8PLA and I got 2018. So no burn in is not a concern.

all my options to change the display mode are grayed out aside from aspect and full.. any way to fix this?

Can you choose between a 24 inch and 27 inch display size for PS5 on the non pro model? Saw a video where it said you can only change to a 24 inch max display size

Do you get additional input lag if you use the Aspect Modes?

Kratos reviewing a monitor? Hell yea!

I do need it. Because I tell myself I need it (I don’t)

I’d say it’s worth it. If you’re gonna run and be able to afford 4k you’re always gonna have the top card, so investing 200 more in do 2.1 for next gen 5090 is 100% worth it imo

@imadecoy.

Ай бұрын

But it's not going to make any difference on the 5090 once they fix the display engine to fully support DSC.

@TheShadiboy1

Ай бұрын

4080 super is enough for me $1850 4090 is $3200 Imagine 5080 and 5090 These prices is Australian BTW

@marxerr

Ай бұрын

@@TheShadiboy1 holy, here in canada a 4080 super is 1800 cad while a 4090 is anywhere from 2300-2500 depending on model

@Dubulcle

15 күн бұрын

5090 won't use 2.1, and even if it did, it wouldn't make a difference.

Can you recommend an oled monitor that has 2k resoluion and is around 360Hz (or higher is fine too)?

we need 4k 480hz before considering 2.1 with a GPU that can handle 480hz at 4k, also LG just dropped an HDR firmware update can we get a 2nd look?

Is this gsync compatible? I saw some reddit comments saying it’s only on the hdmi port currently.

Can it blend? 😅

I’d also like to point out that audiophiles with earc speakers like i have require higher bandwidth for full higher quality channel support.

I tried these monitors and I honestly cannot go back to 240Hz for COD. I mained the AQN for a year and 240Hz feels like hammered ass. I gotta wait for 4K 360 Hz :(. AWESOME VID AS ALWAYS, BRIAN

@houssamalucad753

Ай бұрын

You can go for the 1440p 360hz, or the dual mode 240/480hz ones. If you really want a truely big UPGRADE from the AQN it's better to wait for the upcoming 1440p 480hz. Or a couple of years for a 4K version (although I doubt we can make a cable that handles that, maybe 240hz with well tuned BFI will be clear enough to not need to go higher?)

@TEGTAKU

Ай бұрын

@@houssamalucad753 I've also tried the AW2725DF and the FO27Q3. I think I have a general problem with OLED. We'll see.

What is your wallpaper engine? Image animation looks amazing! You r doing a very good job and I like the length of this review

I'm planning on having 3 monitors but not sure if it's smart to get 3 qd oled monitors

@LG you need to get this man the 45GS model.

Hello friend, how are you, since you do a lot of monitor reviews, can you make a comparison of the LG c3 or c4 and the Samsung s90d and c as a PC monitor? greetings

This is the one boys, I have ordered it!

im looking for a future proof FPS monitor for sure, im glad i held off on buying the pg27aqn but now idk what to do LMAO

My pg27aqdm got burn in and dark bars despite pixel cleaning regularly and not staying in stagnant pages too often. Asus is replacing it for free though (minus $40 shipping cost I paid to send it in) 😅

1:32 Are those measurements with sRGB emulation engaged?

Great video, I hope you check out the JDS atom 2 stack like you said you would.

Hi Brian I was looking for a amp dac for the ps5 does the filling k11 does that have a bass boost or eq for ps5 thank you Brian

Yeah, at high price, how that connector was ready for a while and lame to use DSC for no reason with available bandwidth with DP 2.1 and also out of principal for future cards. There were also other issues with DSC with some monitors or scenarios.

Had this monitor, maybe mine was defective but it had an obvious yellow hue to it that I couldn't unsee. Also, the greys weren't as punchy as other oleds that decided to go darker with the EOTF tracking.

So I'm wondering can i set this screen to say 27 inch and play 1440 resolution on it thruu windows at 240hz? Mostly play fps games but sometimes singel player games also so would like to have 32 inch to my disposal when needed.

@badseedtech

Ай бұрын

That is correct. Though its not *true* 1440p because of how its scales on the monitor, it taxes the machine like 1440p normally would and it looks really good on screen - particularly at 24” and yep - full 240hz. Its something I think a lot of people miss when they talk about these displays.

Great video with great shots👍👍👍

@badseedtech

Ай бұрын

Thanks!

I used to be an OLED hypeman till I actually went to a Samsung store and experienced their OLED and Mini LED panels. The first thing that popped out at me was just how SHARP a mini-LED was compared to the OLED. (Which is important because I'm reading text half of the day) As for my eyes, they couldn't tell the difference between the color vibrance of the Odyssey Ark (Mini-LED) or the G9 (OLED) when played Forza Horizon 5. I think I'll just buy a Mini-LED till the OLED prices drop slightly

I wonder if DSC could be causing VRR flicker?

Atm there is a 300€ price difference between the P and regular F032U2. GIven that, the regular version is the way to go for me.

dsc causes backscreen when alt tabbing and flicker, i do not notice any of those, most my games are in window mode and the flicker i only notice first oled i had, with Aorus FO32U2 i do not notice it so far. otherwise dcs is flawless and overall a benefit. lets me use DisplayPort 1,4 and get 4k at 240fps with hdr. so why hate on those who complain about dcs or rave about it as flawless, do not be ignorant, things needs to be fixed one way or another to work all the time under al circumstances

Display port 2.1 has its issues too. It's hard to find a cable that is certified for the full bandwidth and those that are have very short lengths. It's gonna take time for the cables to get longer and properly certified. It is the future but dsc isn't gonna hold you back either.

@veilmontTV

Ай бұрын

Dsc isn't like youtube compression either. It compresses the signal at 3.4 ratio while video streaming is at least 100-1000/1 ratio. It is visually lossless and no one who uses it would notice it.

Hey BadSeed, currently what is known to be the best headset to hear footsteps clearly? especially directionally? far/close all the goods

@GodlyBeams

26 күн бұрын

I would stop using gaming headsets all together tbh. You can find better audio in cheaper IEMs than you would a gaming headset and depending on budget you could get some nice headphones. and a lot of audio is subjective I would look for some kind of audiophile store near you and see if they do some test demos and find what you like.

I’ve tried LG’s OLED, and Alienware’s, Samsung’s, and Asus’ QD-OLED (which for some reason everyone thinks is the best), and the Gigabyte AORUS QD OLED is by far my favorite. I have the 1440p version. Only downside is the color banding seems to not be very great.

@ozgurkuzu2202

7 сағат бұрын

gigabyte nailed it this time.

@badseedtech Does this have a Glossy or Matte finish?

"Stay up" is a wild outro!

alt-tabbing makes a big difference. without DSC this is significantly faster, it's a good thing that everyone would notice for sure unless you don't switch between fullscreen games and desktop often. but other than that not really any benefits.

@zexedearth89

Ай бұрын

oh no, its 1.5 seconds faster. anways...

@patrikmedia

Ай бұрын

@@zexedearth89 it's annoying when you tab out every few mins. it flickers. I have the dual mode oled and when I play any regular game at 4k240hz it's very noticeable compared to competitive games where I use 1080p480hz. it's nearly instant since the latter doesn't require DSC and is fully native. You really see the difference when you use it daily and have a first hand comparison.

@ogremair803

Ай бұрын

I've been playing on borderless window for this reason. Another problem arises when using HDR in games since some require exclusive fullscreen.

@patrikmedia

Ай бұрын

@@ogremair803 yeah, I'm just not always sure which games have input lag added by using borderless, some run the same while others don't. hdr is a good point too, I use it on most games where available.

I had Fo32u2 and i didn't know what happend when i alt tab and get black screen for like 5 second and bottom it says DP, like its connecting again to display port. Every time. I returned it

@prudhviyalamanchili5807

23 күн бұрын

It’s DSC issue. Every monitor GPU combo now has this right now. If you’re running 4K 240hz you are required to use 240hz. FO32U2P can support 2.1, but no consumer GPUs in the market right now that support full bandwidth.

Sure I need displayport 2.1, I am not planning to sell a monitor like that this in 1 year, better cables are coming, and will be here for the 5090

Haven't watched the video, preordered the U2P(still waiting): I don't need it, but I want it. Let's see if anything changes

@CielMC

Ай бұрын

Yep my order is sticking, I love the effort Aorus put into the connectivity, and no horrible features with solid support

@badseedtech

Ай бұрын

Doubtful. Its a solid pick.

Bad seed, comp gamer here, but old head. I just ordered a 360hz zowie, but now second guessing myself over OLED. What is your opinion? I'm all for response and high hertz to have the biggest advantage. Not interested in 500-540hz though. 360 is where I'm at. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts!

@badseedtech

Ай бұрын

Biggest thing is what you’re coming from prior to the upgrade. The Zowie is gonna win in motion clarity by using DyAc, provided you can hit a consistent locked 360fps. You’ll have to do some fiddling to get the overdrive dialed in, but thats easy enough. And it’ll likely last years upon years with no risk of burn in. OLED is gonna give you a way better picture quality, color saturation, contrast etc and will be more versatile if you find yourself playing other stuff besides just comp fps. It has has way lower g2g times. Motion blur will only be marginally worse at 360hz. And you have to consider what happens after 3 years when your burn in warranty expires. If the second option sounds better, I would highly recommend the Alienware AW2725DF and thats how I would personally go if I was making this call for myself.

@SANFRAN

Ай бұрын

@@badseedtech coming from xl2540 240hz and it’s starting to die. Pixelated issues and flickers green pixelation. Now I’m really debating on this oled

I’m probably in the very small minority that can tell the difference between DP 2.0 and HDMI but I’ve been saying the compression on display port fucks with me more than hdmi ever does. The image is just a bit more crisp and consistent

man, if there was a 5 year burn-in warranty, i'd would go get one instantly, but buying an oled as a monitor which has SOOOOOOO many static things, it's like a recipe for failure. and once i see the burn in on the monitor, i can't unsee it. Hoping *ELEAP OLED* will be a great alternative.

@georgejones5019

Ай бұрын

Sharp's QDEL is another alternative I'm keeping an eye on. It can be manufactured on current equipment, but it's not restricted to the environmental conditions like OLED.

@Eskoxo

Ай бұрын

iv been using my 2016 lg oled tv as monitor for hmm 8 years now still no issues sure burn it does happen but i think % wise it almost never does.

@-Dolphus

Ай бұрын

@@Eskoxo I totally get where you are coming from, and i also have nothing at all on my tv *i however only use it for movies* But i've just on my phones, time after time again, gotten burn-in on the screen, which makes me that much more skeptical. And if it wasn't as much of a problem, i don't see why they can't extend the warranty period for just burn-in, on oled monitors.

@Eskoxo

Ай бұрын

@@-Dolphus think phone screens are not really the same exact same technology and as far as warranty 3 years is probably reasonable on many brands youd be lucky to get 1 year on lcd panel.

@-Dolphus

Ай бұрын

@@Eskoxo yea I guess you might be right at that point, plus they get waaaaaay brighter, which makes the risk of burn-in higher on the phones. In regards to warranty on lcd's I have absolutely no problem with them only having 1 year since (1. They are for the most part a lot cheaper. 2. There is no burn in risk on an LCD panel)

HD 490 Pro review loading?

Bought 3 of these for my "end game" sim racing setup, and using a 4090, could never get the 3rd monitor to display. Ended up having to sell the 4090 and "downgrade" to a 7900 XTX...but at least I have all 3 monitors working, at *4k* and running at a synchronized 165Hz (although not the 240Hz these monitors are capable of).

@imadecoy.

Ай бұрын

So the way it works is Nvidia GPUs have 4 display heads, as soon as you hit a certain pixel rate (a bit more than 4K 120 Hz), the GPU has to combine two of those heads to drive a single display. This is also the point where DSR/DLDSR and stuff stop working. Roughly at the point where you need DSC. So you ran out of display heads on the first two monitors. It would be possible to run them all with a 4090 at 4K 120 Hz with DSC off though. Radeon has an advantage in the display engine department at the moment.

@eagletrippin

Ай бұрын

@@imadecoy. You are correct, sir! This is what I learned over the past 3 months over 3 different models of monitors. The issue with these FO32U2P monitors, however, is that you cannot disable DSC and thus it was impossible to get them to work with the 4090, under any circumstance/scenario/settings configuration. The first monitors I had were Samsung Neo G8's, and the only way I could get all 3 to work was if I lowered the resolution or refresh rates...but they still worked! These Gigabyte monitors though, I could set all 3 to 1280x720 at 60Hz, and *still* could not get them to work! That said, my monitors I had before these -- MSI 4K 144Hz IPS monitors -- **DID** work, much more seamlessly (but not without a ton of issues themselves). So I think these 3 monitors used together -- unlike some other monitors -- use up all 4 "heads" in just TWO monitors alone, regardless of how low you set the settings.😕Sucked having to get rid of my 4090, but I'm quite happy with the 7900 XTX :)

is the 90w usb-c port functional when the pc is off and the monitor in standby?

@jusufme

Ай бұрын

Yes

I think in realtime you won't be able to if you're using dp1.4 or dp2.1 while doing some intensive gaming. Besides, Nvidia doesn't support dp2.1 on any of their cards currently. I have a 4090 and I'm okay with dp1.4 which is why i just ordered the Asus Rog Swift PG32UCDM.

Can we get some custom keyboard content again 👉👈

you should try out a mini led with high dimming zones i think theres one by redmagic with over 5000 zones coming soon or already launched. i have 240hz 1440p oled by ktc and a 160hz 4k mini led with 1152 dimming zones. hdr gaming is better on mini led imo. oled looks washed out compared to mini led in games like horizon forbidden west because oled just doesnt get bright enough and mini led gets bright AF. oled is better for competitive games obviously, single player hdr games goes to mini led.

Noticeable vrr flickering...this gets a huge recommendation from me. lol.

I know this is an edge use case, but I like being able to daisy chain displays. I bought an Asus cuz I couldn't find an MSIs in stock. I'm worried about Asus's terrible warranty. Haven't had experience with Gigabyte support but can't believe it's worse than Asus. I would consider buying this and returning the Asus.

@houssamalucad753

Ай бұрын

The Asus is a slightly better anyways, just check if Asus is as bad in your region as other regions, if it's not there's absolutely no reason to replace it.

I think in your secret lab desk video you said you won't constantly swap monitors out and yet we see the Gigabyte display on the desk 😭😭😭

@badseedtech

Ай бұрын

Haha Tbf this broll was filmed a while ago. The PG32UCDM is on that desk as my personal monitor.

DSC causes issues with multi monitor setup at least with Nvidia GPU, look it up. It's just not worth it buying expensive monitors like these with no DP2.1 unless you have a review channel and swap monitor every few weeks.

VRR flicker is a dealbreaker. My LG OLED 240 hz is a better monitor than this one and it just kills the experience for me. I really wish I had tested it more during my return window but I honestly wasn’t gaming much when I got it.

With the Rtings review, calibration factory is better than the Asus Rog QD oled 32"... Who can we believe?

I could never be satisfied with 240hz now after using 360/390hz monitors (both 1080p and 1440p). I will buy 4k 360hz oled when they drop.

Like I get that I lose very little by turning on DSC, but with me having monitors last many years, I would hate to miss out of new features that do not work with DSC, or other features that suddenly get relevant for me. But looks like at this moment I would have to decide to pick between dolby vision and dp 2.1.

@imadecoy.

Ай бұрын

DSC doesn't prevent you from using any features. What does is Nvidia's current display engine. Past a certain pixel rate it needs to use two display heads to drive a single monitor, and this is when a bunch of Nvidia's driver features stop working.

@PontifexMonarka

Ай бұрын

@@imadecoy. That does sound like DSC prevent me from using some features.

@imadecoy.

Ай бұрын

@@PontifexMonarka No, because I still have access to all of those features with DSC on.

So DP 1.4 with DSC is just as good as good as DP 2.1 for 4K 240hz, as long as you don't care for daisy chaining? Why in the world are some people so vocal about that on these monitors then?

@badseedtech

Ай бұрын

Couldn’t say tbh.

So I still buy the asus monitor when rtx 5090 comes out?

Mine died after a week of use, not impressed.

Did Gigabyte send the monitor to you? Not one of the new 4K 240hz OLEDS are available for retail it feels like in the US😭 Asus, LG, Gigabyte, MSI, all have been out of stock since release like wtf😢

@interceptor001

Ай бұрын

The LG is available on their website?

WL mouse review soon?? 4:58

I think 90 W Power Delivery is wrong. It says 65 W.

Two things. One: its Gigabyte lol. And Two: If theres 0 reason to use DP 2.1 then theres 0 reason to buy this monitor. My opinion still stands, you get the 1440p 360hz QD OLED panel for a good price compared to any other offerings and you absolutely win in every scenario. Price, Performance, Competitive, Immersion, all around banger.

So is it perfectly fine to use DP 1.4 or should i use HDMI instead?

@sudd3660

Ай бұрын

never use hdmi

No I don't, but I bought it regardless. In addition (even if I personally don't need it) one gets 90 instead of 18W of Power from the USB-C, Daisy Channing and a connector that is future proof for sure for many years. We will probably not need a faster connection than DP2.0 with 80GB/s for the next 10 years if we are truly honest.

540hz with backlight strobbing is not clear as 480hz.. imposible double image....

Does that mean it's pointless to get a 240hz 4k monitor if it will always be capped at 120 fps at 4k?

Its too late. Already copped the PG32UCDM. no regrets yet. We'll find out once the 5090 is out lol

@houssamalucad753

Ай бұрын

It's a slightly better monitor anyways, just hoping you didn't pay significantly more for it