What we really need is instead of an 'unsubscribe' button, a 'single combat' button where when we press it we get to fight the CEO of the spamming company 1 on 1

@NorthernChimp

Жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@BurninGems

Жыл бұрын

​@@NorthernChimpagree to agreed

@kroks06

11 ай бұрын

or call a lawyer button, with this trick they are clearly identified.

@arthurkallinen

11 ай бұрын

Gmail actually has it sometimes, when it is able to figure it out.

@TommyCullen-VacuumConnisour

11 ай бұрын

I don't want to take on Zuckerberg, he will use his Robotic powers and royally fuck me over.

Modern spammers can probably just detect everything after the plus, remove it, and send it to your standard email address. Not really that hard to bypass

@billygilbert7911

Жыл бұрын

Bubble burster...😂

@jmr

11 ай бұрын

You're right but we aren't there yet. You can also run your own domain like I do and create a different address for every service.

@akhilleusuggo

11 ай бұрын

Who said that your main email is the one without a plus. You could just make it as a dummy email, to see who are this advanced spammers.

@mozvi1436

11 ай бұрын

I don't think enough people use this method, spammers probably won't bother

@ChaceBonanno

11 ай бұрын

@@jmrit can be done without getting your own domain by using any free email aliasing service

Congratulations, Dale Valskov I am relieved that you are out there fighting these thugs, We musttake every precaution to protect the elderly and the general public from these despicable con artists. Congratulations to You!! You deserve the Nobel Peace Prize for ensuring our security.

Yes please. I would love a video that does a deep dive on the *Metaspyclub* project

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Hey ppl, I'm a retired computer/IT person, Yet I still find Meta spy club so informative and straight forward. Thanks for your advise and helping the people...........Great work and love watching.

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Your work speaks volumes of the kind of man you are. efficient, organized and result oriented well done , Dale Valskov you're soo good at what you do

Account of mine also got hacked and I followed the method as explained in this video but I'm unable to proceed after recording the selfie video. Thank you Dale Valskov . It brings me immense joy to witness his name appearing frequently in comments, a clear indication of the commendable work he’s been doing.

It just kept glitching on me when I tried this video tutorial so firstly I would say thank you for the video and secondly, thank you Dale Valskov meeting you was a blessing in disguise keep up with the good work I'm sure a lot of people will be needing your assistance iin the nearest future after seeing this

It's amazing what you do Dale Valskov We need a lot of people with your skills and set who have good intentions and spread love

Dale Valskov . I really appreciate your efforts and dedication towards the work. May God bless you to keep showing your worth and skills like this in the future

I'm literally overwhelmed, You are a blessing to the world. I can't thank you enough Dale Valskov for helping me with my account recovery. My prayers will always be with you and your team. Keep it up guys. Love from Maldives. There are many people out there I pray everybody get help.

Kudos to you, Dale Valskov for your extraordinary dedication and hard work in helping me recover my account. Your efforts are truly commendable, and I encourage you to maintain this exceptional standard as you embark on future endeavors. The path ahead is filled with promise for someone of your caliber

In my case, I had no image of myself on it which clearly stated I am a step behind. Dale Valskov was God’s sent. I appreciate your tireless efforts in assisting me with the account recovery. Your professionalism and commitment to finding a solution were evident at every step. Thank you for making the process efficient and effective.

Kindly let me to express my sincere gratitude for the exceptional support and dedication Dale Valskov provided in helping me with business account. Your willingness to go above and beyond, investing additional time and effort, has been invaluable to me. The meticulous attention to detail and unwavering commitment you demonstrated throughout this process is truly commendable. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for your outstanding assistance.

Some web apps can use validation to prevent you from inputting +, but asides that, using + gives other advantage like signing up to a service several times with the same email, can be useful for unlimited free trials offer

@psyience3213

6 ай бұрын

Oh shit brilliant

@Fialectro

6 ай бұрын

And the exact reason why trials are becoming less prevalent from blatant abuse like this.

@Wranorn

4 ай бұрын

Came to say just this thank you.

@user-mc5wl7wx7z

3 ай бұрын

The dot trick should work for that

@_kidrah

3 ай бұрын

@@user-mc5wl7wx7z what is the dot trick?

Been using this for years. A lot of places won't allow you to use the plus sign when you sign up anymore. The webapp has an input filter.

@1ronman1

11 ай бұрын

That’s funny I won’t sign up for those then 😂

@Wrutschgeluck

11 ай бұрын

Interesting. Thx for sharing.

@DefCantGame

10 ай бұрын

yeah some validate to deny special characters and such, but for the most part it works with most modern services, and just about any small service

@needamuffin

10 ай бұрын

​@@1ronman1My ISP did it to me the other day. Either I used my normal email address or I can't get internet access.

@thegoldenatlas753

10 ай бұрын

Partially because they realized it can be used for things like sql injections. Though this is possible reason too

I have used this for a while and I have had quite a bit of spam. A few years ago, we had the new GDPR rules, and now I can roll up to a company's legal department, tell them "you sold my email address, I know because of the email plus system, pay me money" and I got paid every. single. time. The worst offender so far is Facebook.

@b0wking119

11 ай бұрын

Does this work everywhere?

@konkenbonken

11 ай бұрын

How much money?

@kataseiko

11 ай бұрын

@@konkenbonken About 500€ per company and incident. The official fines are much higher than that.

@kataseiko

11 ай бұрын

@@b0wking119 It works for most countries where the GDPR is in effect. So essentially all of EU and China. Yes, China has copied the GDPR.

@decadentanciennebourgeoisie

11 ай бұрын

@@kataseiko China is based af then. Every country that does not copy and apply the GDPR in its territory is corrupt and works against its own citizens. Simple as that.

Some companies are aware of that now and they don't accept emails with a plus sign. We need another alternative other than creating new emails.

@efgreencross

11 ай бұрын

There are other aliasing like SimpleLogin (you can read more about this) but there are some companies that understand this alternative type of aliasing which blocks user from signing up.

@Krzys_D

10 ай бұрын

You can put periods within characters in your email address and it will still allow emails thru, though you'll have to remember which places you put those periods in for Edit: Found out today this seems to only work with Gmail

@mikelandry2007

10 ай бұрын

@@Krzys_D thank you, I'll try it

@nmac101

10 ай бұрын

​@@Krzys_D Sounds like a nice trick. I'm gonna write the companies names in morse code if they dont allow the plus trick.

@LonelyAncient

10 ай бұрын

alternatively if it's for a website you won't use often you can use websites like temp mail. that give you an email that lasts 10 minutes, doesn't work on all websites because of spam protection obviously but can help bypass "you need an account to read our clickbait.".

"Let’s just truncate some of that and then send"😂

I use Firefox Relay. So no plus but completely random email.

@osbjmg

11 ай бұрын

If it's random, how do you track where they got it from?

@EdBruceWRX

11 ай бұрын

@@osbjmg When it is created the interface saves a description of the web page. Guessing it either uses the TLD or extracts html header info.

@osbjmg

11 ай бұрын

@@EdBruceWRX ah, thanks for teaching me something new!

@almostprofessionalrecords6651

10 ай бұрын

icloud has the same thing

I've used the "." trick but not the "+" trick. I run my own domain and give everyone a different email address. I use their name, date, and a random verification string so the addresses can't be reverse engineered.

@NorthernChimp

11 ай бұрын

Interesting.

@ToroNero

11 ай бұрын

how many shady companies did you catch?

@jmr

11 ай бұрын

@@ToroNero That's a great question. I've been doing this for years now and haven't caught any. I suspect the reason is my spam filter. Out of curiosity I'll look through my spam and see what email addresses are being used.

@typeins5139

11 ай бұрын

@@jmrtell us how it was

@jmr

11 ай бұрын

@@typeins5139 It's crazy because I can't find any instances of my email address being sold or shared accept one instance I approved. They only shared the address with the partners I approved so that's fine. The bulk of the spam email I'm getting are addressed to decade and decades old(one I've had for at least 25 years) addresses that were listed as contacts for my domain names at one time. That was publicly searchable information. I did find several legitimate emails in my spam folder though. At this point I might be better off without a spam filter. My domain contact information is private now so I can update those email addresses and filter anything addressed to those old email addresses. If this proved anything to me it's that the problem isn't so bad anymore. I'll continue to do things the same way though because someone will eventually mess up and I want to know who.

Unless you're dealing with money or something important, just use a trash email or even a temp email service if you only need to activate something once and don't care about using that account in the future.

@ZacklFair

11 ай бұрын

Imagine that account suddenly becomes important.

@cdub5033

11 ай бұрын

Setup several different address' for specific purposes.

@spoopyscaryskelebones3846

11 ай бұрын

There are temporary email websites

@kenx9984

3 ай бұрын

You can't even leave it alone for long time google will check inactive email 😂

I think you’ve missed the most important detail regarding the “+” email identifier in my opinion. For me the biggest benefit is using it to parse through login credentials exposed via breached data sets; this allows us to trace through which sites/services have been compromised. Doing this we’ve been able to harden our own endpoints against clients email addresses / credentials that have been compromised and even identified 4 breaches prior to the public being notified.

Except that many companies mark it as an invalid email if you have a + in there and thus won't allow you to use their site if you do that, and even if they didn't the company could still run a program to parse out the + and everything between it and the @, so really the only guaranteed way is to set up your own email service, create a bunch of individual accts for everything, and then have them forward everything to your main email inbox.

@touma-san91

10 ай бұрын

If you get newsletter from them and it's parsed out, you can easily speculate what their purpose of it was though

@per_sev

10 ай бұрын

@@touma-san91 That's assuming they remove it for their own mailing purposes, and not just from mailing list that they sell.

@per_sev

10 ай бұрын

@tatsu4935 It's easier to just use email aliases, and shut down any that get spammed.

@AltonV

4 ай бұрын

No need to set up a bunch of individual accounts if you are using your own email service. Just create one as a catch all

@per_sev

4 ай бұрын

@AltonV That obviously is the more ideal method because then you control everything, but isn't what's being discussed here.

This also works on M365, but may need to be enabled for your organization.

You’re the coolest lumberjack ever dude!

Bro made a Black Eye Peas reference.

Yes, I do know about this, yes I do use it, but some UIs claim '+' is an invalid character when entering an e-mail address.

They say the most challenging thing in programming is to strip +anything off a text string. - Hackerman

@easierthanlife1826

Ай бұрын

Sarcasm?

You should definitely use this idea. Just be aware that many places have a filter on that prevent you from using the "+" and some places are just behind the time and won't allow you to input a significantly long email address.

@beentheredonethatunfortunately

Ай бұрын

Behind the times? I suspect the RFC existed well before such companies had even thought of using email addresses so not so much "behind the times" more "ignoring the standards".

What!? This is badass. Thanks Chuck!

so many site block plus addresses now sadly

And then you'll find that half of mail scripts don't know how to correctly handle + in the mail addresses :)

@ThomasLe

11 ай бұрын

this is my biggest frustration. Ive used this for years but lots of places I've tried don't consider a + a valid symbol in an email. Some places dont even recognize other TLDs as valid.

Hat tip to you my good man. This is HUGE!

Chuck you're an all time legend, love this!!!

So now you know some company sold your crap….now what? 😂😂😂😂😂

@d47im5e

Жыл бұрын

You can filter them and mark as junk more easily... I wish i did this 10 years ago...

@The_Chris_Haynes_Show

11 ай бұрын

Um. Recon their assets and Raise an ai army to counter strike their working force with incessant calls and emails to the entire company asking them if they would like to talk about their cars extended warranty.

Nowadays spammers are the literate programmers.

It works: LIKE A CHAMP!

Damn. Did really not know this. Thought he would mention the point which could be anywhere. Thanks for this.

Can confirm, if we still want your email. This will not hinder us lol

I mean, great, but it's not like you can turn around and sue those companies

@soul_maestro

Жыл бұрын

it does allow you if it's a company with a good public reputation to contact them and tell them that they either sold the data without your consent - big no-no in EU thanx to GDPR - , some of their "trusted parties" aren't following the rules they set out in the privacy-agreement or that they have a databreach which they didn't knew about yet. yes, i have had all 3 happen to me. and i caught them all thanks to a similar trick using unique-per-requester mailaddresses with a personal domainname and a catch-all mailbox.

@andrew5821

Жыл бұрын

You can't sue, but you can set a custom filter on gmail to block emails from that specific email handle.

@soul_maestro

Жыл бұрын

it not being worth sueing them, doesn't mean you can't sue them. however if they break the law, or not follow the agreements both them and you agreed on, you could. too bad, all those in "the land of the free", don't have the freedom of enjoying any privacy online.

@The_Chris_Haynes_Show

11 ай бұрын

I prefer taking more subtle and of course wholly ethical liberties

In like 3 lines of js you can auto remove the plus tag

I can’t believe Starbucks sold my pics to you. I hope you like the one I’m wearing a moomoo designed like a firefighter!

Like Starbucks (or the company buying their addresses) doesn't know what a + in a Gmail address means 😂😂

@RamikinHorde

11 ай бұрын

You vastly overestimate how much spam companies care. So someone they're spamming knows where they bought it from...so? Spamming, like scamming, is targeted at the lowest common denominator. Its not that they *can't* - they're not going to put in work to bypass your avoidance or information gathering because they literally dont care

@oscargr_

11 ай бұрын

@@RamikinHorde True, but email sellers charge more for "clean" lists.

@DefCantGame

10 ай бұрын

Most of these companies arent filtering their address, they are just getting them and adding them to the list of people to blast spam to

Thank you. I had no idea this feature even exist.

I wish i knew that 10 years ago

Hello, i need to access an account urgently but i dont have the login details. Please how do i do this😢

@1hackatdaylinus

4 ай бұрын

Did you solve?

@randomrandomizer

3 ай бұрын

Go get the login details?

Then the spammers remove +servicename and boom. You don’t know who sent it anymore lol Hell, Google will probably remove it for them when they sell it to third parties 😂

@CorrosiveCitrus

11 ай бұрын

That's okay if your inbox is already set up to send anything wihtout the alias to your junk

I knew this method for labeling but haven't thought it would work to track spam mails

Don't take headache. Just mark them as spam. They will always land in spam and clean your spam after month or year. You can set auto clean too.

I received the most spam when I used the phish button on my email accounts to report the spam. Suddenly I started receiving 3 x the spam and it hadn’t stopped. How unusual eh?

@apIthletIcc

9 ай бұрын

I have experienced the same uptick after starting to report phishing attempts. Seems email providers have made ineffectual efforts to curb it so rather than reporting them I go into the trenches and investigate the abuse myself. Then when I do report it, instead of a paragraph they get an entire encyclopedia to sift through.

@Nishandh_Mayiladan

8 ай бұрын

same experience here

@peaceformula5830

7 ай бұрын

The reason for that is that the spammers can see if you interacted with their message. Its will tell them if you clicked on, opened, read, deleted, reported their message. Then they have automated response, oh we have a person interacting here and send more. I use the ignore conversation button on outlook and it seems to work without increasing spam

Plus aliasing is not secure and your main inbox address is easily visible (anything before the +) and a lot of services do not accept "plus" email addresses. You are better off using your own domain with catch-all enabled.

@CorrosiveCitrus

11 ай бұрын

It's a good option for those that don't currently have their own domain, for at least filtering the spam easier.

@remysimoneaux709

8 ай бұрын

What is catch all?

Here is a similar tip. You can put a dot anywhere your Email address and whatever you're signing up for will thank its a different Email but will still go to your inbox. Also helpful to let you know who sold your data.

Yeah works only sorta, it either gets filtered or email fields outright refuse +addresses in the first place.

unfortunately useless because the part after the plus can easily be removed.

I use it for a long time and yes I caught one company, where ppl took over data from old company to new company, which in EU is also not allowed without consent.

I did that with all presidential candidates in 2008 and Obama shared his list with Hillary and Biden no other candidate shared anything except them. I’m still getting Biden emails with Obama’s name on it.

I knew this, however many companies have been able to outsmart this and not allow it when signing up for services

More of a provided feature from gmail than a “hack”

I wasn't looking at my phone the first time you said Stacy Lumps. And I love that whenever I turned to look at my phone while saying "Stacy Lumps? O.o", you were doing the same thing back at me. 😂

Dude you're brilliant.

Thanks Chuck keep the contents rolling…you got a Network godson from Naija 🤙🏾

I assumed people already knew this. I’ve been using this for several years now.

set up a dummy email that forwards to your main email but that's more technical

This is trivially easy to strip out. If you're serious about it then do a custom domain with a service that allows catch-all or infinite aliases. Then you can have a unique email for each service that can't be stripped. Bonus points if you make it less obvious too

I did something like this 20 years ago with my own domain. Practically no one doesn't sell your email address.

This dude’s content is all just thinly veiled commercials. lol

I use telephones and radio over 👽

My apple iCloud lets me make any amount of random emails that I can use to sign up with, where it basically forewords emails from the company I signed up to my normal email, and the rest are on the extra one. I haven’t tried it but it might be useful

if only I had US$10 for every time chuck said, "I bet you didn't know this", and I knew it already; in fact, I've known it for years.

I’ve been using the feature in combo with filters so I can assure proper handling of certain specific email items.

Now not just I have to remember the password but different emails for it too.

been doing this with a catch all for about 20yrs, while it's a good way to identify sold emails often it just comes down to hacked websites then emails being used from those.

Idea is good, I thought so many years ago. Issue is that a LOT of websites use crappy email verifying scripts, so they think plus sign is invalid

Thanks for not making it a loop, it's so cliché lately that I really started to hate it

With Gmail, you can also place a period anywhere with your existing email address (preceding the domain of course) and you will retrieve those too. I use that when some sites don’t accept the + in their email field.

Thankfully I wont have to deal with spam anymore considering I got a job with one of the biggest companies in the world for my first IT job. Big thanks to you man, you've helped me so much!!!

Metaspyclub gang in the house! Thanks for the analysis!

Thank you for letting these companies know this trick. Now we can expect more of them removing the custom tag

my brain isn t braining rn

Microsoft does this too, it’s called plus addressing

I actually didn't know!

Same thing with periods too. you can add a period anywhere in your address to create an "alias"

For everyone saying a lot of websites ban the + sign, perhaps encoding it?

They've all already caught onto this trick

Head about it before, but never bothered to actually try it.

They have caught on to this. Half of the times I've tried this, I get an error saying it's not a valid email address.

Sensei Chuck

Well that’s something new…. Thanks!

Wish google had a decent reference for advanced commands... And that they werent randomly deprecated without warning - looking at you, google advanced search parameters.

that's kinda what i'm doing with a personal domainname and a catchall mailbox... fully unique mailaddresses - before the @ - each time specfic for each site or service i sign up for that '+' part is easy filtered out, spammers are smart enough for that, but they are stupid enough to think that 1 person only has 1 mailaddress and not unlimited ;)

@CattopyTheWeb

Жыл бұрын

Tho a custom email domain costs money

@soul_maestro

Жыл бұрын

​@@CattopyTheWeb true, but you're often paying alot less than you would be paying to most of those data-breach services. and you don't have to give out the real mail-addresse you're using to sign into the mail-box or when sending mails. every phisher/spammer having some brains knows that everything after the + in a gmail-address is just a filter and isn't part of the real mail-addresse, none of them can be sure that mailA@domainnameX is the same person as mailB@domainnameX. nor that they all end up in the same mailbox (or not) ps: this often also allows you to assign mail-addresses that do end up into such spamlists to a seperate very small mailbox so any and all mails send to those bounce back 'mailbox full' - often also helping you to get those adresses automagically removed from such spamlists.

@pizzabossxd

Жыл бұрын

@@soul_maestro i see, interesting.

@NorthernChimp

11 ай бұрын

Of course 1 address=1 person, but all those with @domainnameX are probably co-workers or relatives, no?

the backgroud music is next level

i already knew this but sadly these companies are realizing this trick or blocking the plus sign entirely

Stacy Ferguson sings the line "You love my lady lumps" I'm not sure about the 124 though.

This is very old. In fact so old that a lot of spammers remove the plus and what follows automatically

I use this all the time. I also made a gmail app to filter stuff out strait to span or a folder

I did something like that when I had access to an exchange server at work. I'd create aliases for anything that required an email address (like to download drivers). It gave me the ability to immediately dump those emails once I was done downloading the driver/app/whatever. All email systems should support this (though we all know why it is not).

That's actually useful.

use it all the time. thanks for spreading the word