the most tragic thing about betrayal is that it never comes from an enemy...

@hannahllewellyn163

3 жыл бұрын

So true

@Alpinewild444

3 жыл бұрын

But he was, I just didn’t know it, and the shattering I experienced was because he was my husband.

@joanlynch5271

3 жыл бұрын

The other person in the triangle is the enemy.

@voidwalker7774

3 жыл бұрын

@@LittleBird888 YES !!!

@whyohwhy9679

3 жыл бұрын

At least you think they're not your enemy until you're just slapped in the face with the fact they are.

The worst part about betrayal, I think, is the shock. It kind of puts you in this place where you think anyone is capable of anything, and from there it's very easy to never let anyone back in.

@ayaaly2866

Жыл бұрын

You said it very well 👏what a sad truth

@user-mr3ww5gy4j

Жыл бұрын

Even if you want to let anyone in, you're so completely removed from the idea you don't even know how or where to find them and just maybe give up.

@chelseagamez161

Жыл бұрын

just found out I was cheated on 2 days ago and all I keep telling myself is how shocking it is that he did that to me 😕

@savagelydivined3230

Жыл бұрын

The shock can last for years! It’s like you don’t wanna let anyone in cuz you don’t know who to trust. I mean if the person you thought loved you the most and vice versa, how could they do that.

@pihuverma2130

Жыл бұрын

true

The worst part is that it's the one you'd never have imagined in your wildest dreams, would destroy you or have a wish to. It's never an enemy, it's the one you trusted completely, the one you loved with all your heart and let into every aspect of your life. It's beyond devastating.

@ms.rlsteele351

Жыл бұрын

Well said.

@antoinetterocco3701

Жыл бұрын

Truth!!!!!!!!!

@johnfrehley3887

Жыл бұрын

@David Irish So true 😢

@redflava7871

Жыл бұрын

God shouldn’t have created human beings. Animals were enough.

@marthahenrich1185

Жыл бұрын

So true. My daughter and 7 years later I’m still asking why?

I grieve for the man I thought he was, for the future I thought we had, the one person who knew all of me. But what she left out, I grieve for the ability to trust myself to protect myself. That’s the one part I can’t get past. It also affected all of my friendships. I sabotaged them to keep myself safe. The loneliness is overwhelming but I don’t know how to heal this part.

@gloriapatri5257

9 ай бұрын

I’m sorry. I’m the same way, I think loneliness is better than being betrayed and abused again. Journaling helps.

@EmsEms81

9 ай бұрын

100%.

@donnamason6522

8 ай бұрын

I am so sorry. I do understand. Please don't despair. I was betrayed as a child by the man my mum was dating (abuser) who groomed me, said he loved me and would take care of me. I was so desperate for love and attention I let him do anything he wanted. After a year (He was scared I might be pregnant) he told my mum I had seduced him and that he couldn't resist me. I didn't know he was gonna tell her. She hated me after that. I felt I was the traitor. A week later he moved in with us and set up home with my mum. I was 13 by then. I had no one to tell. The shame and pain and loneliness were unbearable. It all completely blew my mind. I can't tell you the madness and torture of my teens. Suffice to say it broke me mentally , emotionally and led to almost a lifetime of a serious mental health disorder along with chronic illness. But I kept trying to heal. I was helped in my early fifties by 2 amazing psychotherapists who understood. I learned to love and respect myself and along with that I learned to trust myself . I believe in myself and my ability to protect myself. Boundaries. I didn't even know what that meant! I am now 64, healthy, having a life worth living. It is possible. Transformation, taking the best care of yourself with healthy eating and exercise. Research, get help if possible, believe you are worth it. Develop a positve relationship with yourself, be your own best friend. My heart goes out to all those in pain. Wishing you recovery, healing and peace.❤

@gloriapatri5257

8 ай бұрын

@@donnamason6522 I’m so sorry what you went through. I’m happy for your recovery.

@donnamason6522

8 ай бұрын

@@gloriapatri5257 Thank you.

Her description of betrayal trauma is exactly on target. It changes you. I feel like an empty shell of my former self and I don’t see a path towards transformation. I’ve lost all motivation and enthusiasm for life itself. This is the trauma that’s invisible to the rest of society. No one really understands the pain of a betrayal, except for those of us who live with it.

@msmandie101

2 жыл бұрын

And sadly for the betrayed, no one cares. Which adds another layer of betrayal.

@fireinateacup89

2 жыл бұрын

I've lost connection with my own emotions, and most of the time, that's something I wouldn't want to change. I've lived with trauma for so long and been through so much terror that I am no longer phased by much of anything. I feel like a ghost, or something undead. For the most part, I don't feel emotions--I "know" them. The only emotions I can usually perceive on a tangible level are happiness and anger...I think because those emotions feel like control.

@josedanielrodriguez1126

2 жыл бұрын

Amen brother

@jjsmama401

2 жыл бұрын

I hear you. I’ve felt the same way for years. However, I watched a story yesterday about a r@PE victim who decided it wasn’t going to define her. She went to school and then became a police officer and eventually a detective. She put her energy into helping victims and putting away bad guys. I’m so inspired by stories like that. I don’t want to let this betrayal define me and deprive me of what I really deserve in life. It’s been 6 years. Maybe it’s time for me to let go.

@mindella7812

2 жыл бұрын

@@jjsmama401 love this ! You can do it ! You are worth so much more ! ❤️

"its hurts so much bcz on some level we know its intentional"

@jerilynmorgan5386

3 жыл бұрын

Its not about the partner. Its about the unhealthy choices of someone not dealing with their issues appropriately within tmselves and in the primary relationship.

@kelenl5033

3 жыл бұрын

How true but hid them over and over again so many things.

@jonstersmall2716

2 жыл бұрын

It's also about cowardice on the part of the betrayer

@elainenilsson5472

2 жыл бұрын

It hurts so much because you were the one person they should have contacted first, not the last, and perhaps it could have been foiled

@markcavandish1295

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonstersmall2716 It’s also about the cowardice on the part of the betrayed.

Fun fact - if we're able to keep our nervous systems regulated we grieve appropriately for being betrayed and move past it pretty easily. But due to the PLETHORA of CPTSD and PTSD floating around from childhood trauma it's REALLY easy for many of us to get stuck in a vicious and dangerous cycle of Self-betrayal.

@PeteyS.D.

Жыл бұрын

Sadly that's the situation I'm currently in.

@tdarons

Жыл бұрын

Been there…many many times. I have lived alone for 28 years now. Only in recent years have I found a measure of peace and acceptance that I am better off alone.

@Linzcampbell10

22 сағат бұрын

This.

It's weirdly comforting for me to hear that there's actual research to back up that there are physical responses to betrayal.

“Even though it was done to you, it wasn’t about you,” very well said.

@curoseba5363

3 жыл бұрын

But it’s hard to conceive that idea, really hard...

@denny3161

3 жыл бұрын

A blanket statement that may or may not be the apparent truth let alone the actuality.

@mattsaysvideo

3 жыл бұрын

Whatever a person does, they do because of the internal narrative they have created within their own mind. We all observe occurrences. But it is only after the fact that we internalize those occurrences by assigning value and meaning, which does not actually exist within the occurrence itself. It is our interpretations of occurrences-our own values and meaning that do not exist objectively within the occurrence itself-that motivate our every behavior, not the occurrence or even the behavior of other actors that played a part in assisting the occurrence to transpire. Though we no doubt play a role in every occurrence we are present within, each observer necessarily turns the event into something that can be understood in terms of their own prior experiences, which they interpreted through the same process explained above. So, our understanding is never about another person or the behavior they may or may not have elicited, but is always about how we interpreted the behavior of others, and vice versa. Thus, however another acts toward us is never actually about us, but is always about the interpretation of occurrences that they created within their own mind. We might as well be a tree in their internalized, fictional rendering, it makes no difference. Because none of us is who we truly are in the minds of others, but rather appear, to them, to be whatever they project upon us. So, others never see us as we truly are. And because they never see us as who we truly are, they never behave as they do toward us because of who we truly are. Rather, they treat us as who they have made us out to be. In short, it really isn’t us that makes people treat us the way they do. In actuality, it is their own interpretations that motivate them to treat us as they do. And so, it necessarily cannot be about us.

@Lizet_Artistry

3 жыл бұрын

I have to remind myself of that and its very hard.

@tanamo4632

3 жыл бұрын

Thats understood on a cerebral level, both your comments tap into an intellectual understanding of what’s happened. But betrayal is an emotional wound that isn’t soothed with concepts and fancy words. I’d don’t think there is a ‘cure’ for betrayal only lessons and transformation.

What betrayal taught me was to never be attached to the amazing happiness that a partner can bring. You could give everything to a person, walk over broken glass and one day they can decide for whatever reason they are not happy. Instead look for your happiness in other things.

@briankeithnull194

3 жыл бұрын

You have to find happiness within yourself. You can't depend on others to make you happy. Love yourself first then others will love you too.

@Bethaniji

3 жыл бұрын

Man's Search For Meaning by Richard Wormbrand. He was made to crawl on glass shards in concentration camp...and found a way to forgive and inspire...and define his life by another means.

@zero-ol2nt

3 жыл бұрын

@@Bethaniji Thanks! However this is besides the point but I appreciate you sharing.

@lorettanericcio-bohlman567

2 жыл бұрын

I did have happiness; the person that betrayed me wanted some of that and then realized it couldn’t be osmosisly transferred so decided to perform open heart surgery with a rusted knife blaming me.

@lorettanericcio-bohlman567

2 жыл бұрын

...the same level of happiness has been restored

One relationship where I was really betrayed and hurt I literally look like I aged 10 years in one year. I really can’t believe I didn’t have a heart attack because of my profound grief. But after this last betrayal, I highly doubt I will ever be able to trust anyone again. There was no red flags with these betrayals. There’s no way of telling a good guy from a bad guy nowadays because they are such good liars

@susanm1470

Жыл бұрын

I'm so sorry. I know what you mean. Have a relationship with yourself. I'm relearning who I am, self care for me. Hope this helps ❤

@therealhealinginstitute

Жыл бұрын

Just a little tip, from a loving place, subconsciously you now expect it to happen. So it does and will continue to do so. Hypnotists can help with subconscious beliefs like this. Also can help you to heal the massive damage that has been put on you because of it. Love to you. Hope you are well.

@ericephemetherson3964

Жыл бұрын

I was betrayed 30 years ago and I cannot shake it off up to date of 2022. So hard to trust now.

@aungar2403

Жыл бұрын

I believe that betrayal is the mother of all pain. It's worse than any other abuse. It is unique. Betrayal is a narcissists game. Somehow they truly enjoy the setup and the take down. If they did it once they can do it again.

@Lisa-eh1is

Жыл бұрын

People do lie excessively nowadays. It seems like it's normal to lie and being a liar is nothing to be ashamed of anymore.

For someone fighting back tears at my desk, thank you for helping to paint a picture of something that I have really struggled to understand, manage, and overcome.

@conservativelatinausa9005

2 ай бұрын

Literally me at work😩😭🫂💗

Betrayal is betrayal, once it's done to you, it's hard to trust, even after reconciliation🙏🏻.

@wordsculpt

3 жыл бұрын

Trust is something that is earned.

@branNethan

3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree! I find myself doubting my partner every time he says he loves me. Or not trusting when he’s out of my sight. I’m not sure if I’ll ever get over it. It consumes all your thoughts until you feel like there’s nothing left of you 💔

@willowworks

3 жыл бұрын

This happened to me at my former job.

@quirkyquester

3 жыл бұрын

@@branNethan me too. I have a hard time trusting ppl now. I am looking for a way to help myself.

@melssf7852

3 жыл бұрын

@@quirkyquester same boat. 14 years later. I don't even know how to begin to heal

Once my house is rebuild there's no letting the destroyer back in. That's my lesson learned.

@letakeokuk5446

3 жыл бұрын

@@AK-gk6sd But we are taught to not break the family bond. It’s difficult to get over familiar issues when they force you to engage with them during the holidays, birthdays etc.,

@BlossomSabasan21

3 жыл бұрын

same

@tigerlilly5579

3 жыл бұрын

I think it’s hardest when they are blood relatives: parents, sisters, brothers. The bonds go back to childhood and there’s so much guilt when you distance yourself.

@spiritquest1909

3 жыл бұрын

But who is the destroyer? It can be anyone. Like she says, not letting the destroyer back in may seen easy. Thats just too concrete. Destroyers come in all different shapes and sizes and genders.

@elementalbuttahfly8510

3 жыл бұрын

Amen!

It is intentional and you never see it coming when it hits you. A good person doesn't even let their mind go to the place of a betraying person. So when it hits you it is devastating. It's unbelievable that someone could do this to another person. A person they say they love. Yeah right.

@AnTeya15

26 күн бұрын

Thats why it hurts so much, because it was intentional, they intended to hurt you. :( I've been betrayed too, 5 years ago. Im still getting episodes every now and then... I was kind of comforted with what she said that even though it was done to me,. it was not about me. :( I wish I could move forward as easy as others can.

Videos like this are so helpful. My health insurance doesn't cover therapy, so when I can't see anyone, I watch youtube videos from counselors and therapists. It helps to have my feelings validated and not feel so alone. Thank you sister for this blessing of a video 🙏🏼

@digidrum2003

Жыл бұрын

My wife left us (16 year old son) 3 weeks ago to "find herself" this after I caught her cheating 1 year ago....I need someone to talk to,but i dont have anyone.....youtube videos and reading comments have helped me so much.

@Beanssss_

11 ай бұрын

It's time to find new health insurance.

@xw7239

10 ай бұрын

@@digidrum2003 a lot of local churches have support groups, or if you want a secular support group, you could probably Google one in your area. I am so sorry for what you are going through

@amoljamble2498

9 ай бұрын

🫂❤️

@foundpeaceinthevision

9 ай бұрын

I hope you’re doing okay xx

Never reconcile with a betrayer under any circumstances.

@dmo8843

2 жыл бұрын

Did she seriously say that she got back with her betrayal because “they mentally built” a new house. This completely invalidated this Ted talks for me

@RoosterMontgomery

2 жыл бұрын

I don't recognize my betrayer as the person she used to be with me. That person died. All that's left is a familiar shell.

@rockstarofredondo

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, she remarried the abuser. Straight crazy!

@rockstarofredondo

Жыл бұрын

@@dmo8843 totally. This is batty!

@kathlenesims767

Жыл бұрын

Not our job to forgiveforgive everybody say go back for more but forgive to move on baggage working through it I'm trying really hard train by my brother my husband my children and many relatives and best friends forgiveness this it can be done if you do you will be happy

I always describe what happened as if he was wearing a mask for 14 years, and then it fell off. I saw him. I saw this complete stranger

@ganapatikitty

3 жыл бұрын

A narcissist ? Wearing a mask that long ? Or what mask?

@irenehernandez1715

3 жыл бұрын

exactly... that was my ex of 2 yrs.. cheated.. even tho claimed he wasnt like other men told me he loved me constantly... he wasnt all bad but after that, i didnt know him anymore...

Betrayal is a painful trauma that I just can't seem to heal. It hurts me a year later as I think about it often. The betrayer had absolutely no remorse and went on went their life like nothing ever happened. I know God is watching and is full of compassion for those of us that have been betrayed and hurt for no reason

@jillvasquez7827

Жыл бұрын

Do you heal? I continue forward but heal…not sure..

Betrayal taught me that life is very unpredictable and nothing is constant, everything and everyone changes.

Betrayal has been 90% of my entire life. I trust very few people.

@jojorenee

3 жыл бұрын

Me too!

@marktilford5871

3 жыл бұрын

Heidi Being betrayed is gut wrenching, but there's power and victory and recovery that takes our lives to a new level we never imagined possible.

@jeremymason8081

3 жыл бұрын

It feels like that but it’s not true. You can heal

@jonbulat1

3 жыл бұрын

Most of are landed here for similar reasons. You are not alone, neither am i. Find positivity

@solidwegy61

3 жыл бұрын

Glad I'm not the only one

It's my greatest wish that this talk finds it's way to the people who are struggling to heal from a painful experience with betrayal. Please share with those who'd benefit from it. Thank you!

@stealthkingproductionwmih4292

4 жыл бұрын

It's been years I can't even remember the last time I trusted someone , and when I finally can trust again , it all happens again .. the agony ..

@Loxias321

3 жыл бұрын

Would like to know the process for healing from this that you spoke about. Is there an additional talk or a book where this is explained or outlined?

@aps4950

3 жыл бұрын

Debi Silber I found your talk today! I thank God that I did!

@captain_cabbage

3 жыл бұрын

I stumbled upon this and am in tears. I still hurt so much everyday i open my eyes. I want to tranaform so much, but i have no idea how. Please, how do i find myself and joy in people again? X

@picardy7488

3 жыл бұрын

@@Loxias321 Yes, no (or hint of) solutions given

Betrayal was one of the best things that ever happened to me 31 years ago. It put me on a journey of self-discovery that revealed I was codependent…how I needed to take charge of my own happiness and not rely on someone else to do that for me. Also, I learned am not responsible for someone else’s happiness or well-being. Over the years I struggled with letting people in my life, trusting myself and trusting them. I kept myself “safe” for so many years, until I finally faced my fears and am now in a long term relationship, learning and growing. I now know betrayal happened to me because my purpose is to help others show up for themselves to lead a more happy fulfilling life instead of being afraid all the time.

@rajeshwarimane6330

9 ай бұрын

How did you do that?

@tb87670

9 ай бұрын

I think I am here now. Wife betrayed me 6 weeks ago, cheated then left after midnight suddenly. I think I was always codependent. I'm in so much pain right now.

Betrayal is such a hurtful and confusing thing. The trauma that comes with it, can really drain you at first. What she says about mourning the loss of the person you trusted, is very important. Because the version that you thought was the real them was an intergral part of you and I can kind of compare that to grief. Best thing to do is to start the healing journey (a good therapist really helps). I promise you it's not easy and it will take a lot of work. I'm still in the healing journey, it had its ups and downs. But one thing I'm proud of myslelf is that I got to reinvent myself. I went back to school to do my Masters, started hiking again, going out to social events more. To be honest I've never felt more comfortable and confident in my skin. There is hope, don't give up.

@mojopojojojo2639

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing

...gets tattooed on your mind, your heart, AND YOUR SOUL. Something breaks inside you.

@oliverposch666

3 жыл бұрын

Im tattooing. Yes its true. There is still a solution. Cover Up. The same with your soul. Find a new story. CoverUp the old tattoo in your soul with a new chapter. Much love

@royalacity

3 жыл бұрын

I literally heard a "snap, crackle," in my head the moment I found out. I was on the floor crying, trying to LITERALLY grasp reality. I straight up felt my mind slipping and I was desperate to regain a grasp.

@tedfinger

2 жыл бұрын

You’re right. It rips your soul apart.

TIME DOESN'T HEAL ALL WOUNDS IF YOU CAN'T STOP RUMINATING !!

@DebiSilber

3 жыл бұрын

Very true

@nakeishahenry9261

3 жыл бұрын

I cant stop ruminating and its driving me crazy

@davidzaiser9929

3 жыл бұрын

@@nakeishahenry9261 me too. Is this still a problem for you or did you get over it?

@nakeishahenry9261

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidzaiser9929 not over it but it's a tad better. But I KNOW it will get better cause it HAS TO eventually. I'm always looking for ways to get over it though other than looking for love again. No rebounds this time!

@davidzaiser9929

3 жыл бұрын

@@nakeishahenry9261 sorry I didn't realize your comment was only 3 days old. I have been ruminating for over a year....and it doesn't seem to be getting better. Lost my wife to divorce. She took my two daughters from me and I don't get to spend any time with them. I keep trying to think of what I could done differently.

I cried through that entire speech it was very moving to me. I loved someone for many years, someone who betrayed and hurt me so badly. I learned to heal through the trauma to be able to love myself and others again. It definitely made me stronger. I haven't been in a relationship in over 7 years. I rebuilt myself and chose to live and love my life.

@staceylsg

Жыл бұрын

I had to pause the video due to my severe crying getting in the way of listening to any more. I just wish there was a better conclusion to the video, more information on how to do the transformation. I shamefully felt envy that she was able to just be with the same person again and grow. Mine died of an overdose. And there have been SO many others that have betrayed me. It's so painful I don't know what happiness is anymore.

@beez991

Жыл бұрын

How did you learn to trust again?

@janedoe12885

Жыл бұрын

​@@beez991 I recommend listening to Eckart Tolle. He's like a spiritual guru. Teaches us that our suffering is caused by our egos. Look him up, he's great.

@jessicasilcox8522

Жыл бұрын

​@@staceylsg I clicked on the link in the bio and learned that this program unfortunately costs $1,000 to enroll in 😔 I was so hopeful listening to the speech so it is unfortunate for me as I can't afford that.

@amoljamble2498

9 ай бұрын

🫂

I was betrayed by family, and at an early age, I knew that I could only rely on me.

I feel so sorry for children who have experienced this , as a 40 year old woman, going through this has been the hardest thing ever

@DebiSilber

3 жыл бұрын

Yes Amanda-children are so hugely impacted by it as well.

@Blonde111

3 жыл бұрын

Easy for her to talk about. She had a partner who was willing to save his family. It worked out for her and thats wonderful. But for many, they are standing in the ruins, trying to live day by day.

@MsSugarDyme

3 жыл бұрын

The Hardest Thing Ever The End

@The_Rude_French_Canadian

3 жыл бұрын

I’d rather have had my heart broken at 20 yrs old rather than 35...

@jonbulat1

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed, though many children will repress and find it again later unfortunately. It's an evolutionary perk. At 40, we don't have that luxury/burden

THIS IS WHY I SAY IT WAS NEVER ABOUT NOT LOVING MYSELF ENOUGH. It is about the person(s) you love and respect (and who you thought loved and respected You) making you question everything in your life

The woman that betrayed me was NEVER supposed to be capable of such a thing. Known by everyone in her community and loved by all. Amazing friendships to lots of women throughout her life that still think of her as their best friend. Respected and trusted by all of her work colleagues. The woman that NOBODY would EVER think could do something like this, me included. Until I saw that email on her phone to a person I work with. I knew right away it wasn't right. I opened it and it said, "Goodnight handsome". And that's when all of my realities were gone and pain took their place. 5 years ago.

@zimri1323

5 ай бұрын

I can relate. Everyone says the same thing. "I can't believe she would do that", yeah and so did I. That's the painful part. We remember them for who we thought they were and not who they actually were.

@vincezetti7216

4 ай бұрын

these hoes aint loyal

@Cowkill

4 ай бұрын

Same experience here. She made a 180° shift in her personality; nobody could have seen that coming, even me.

@Leescreativeart

3 ай бұрын

I’m in the hot seat right now. Wife had an affair 5 years ago and that was disastrous enough but hung in there. Last week I find out that the dude and his new wife have been calling and talking and going to lunch with my wife behind my back and in secret. Not just to me but to them. She lied and said I was ok with them going out…. WTH. Anywho. Back to therapy😅😂🎉

I'm only 19 and still dealing with childhood trauma and bullying/alienation throughout my entire school career. I'm so filled with anger, can't stand being around strangers, feel like everyone outside of those i previously trusted is fake and maneuvered by bad intentions. Everyone tells me to just get over it. I feel like while I may be generally kind and willing to help others, I may never trust that anyone has good intentions with me specifically. However, this speech has given me some perspective and will hopefully help me with the healing process.

@goldenlifelove7251

8 ай бұрын

Go to therapy to help u heal

For me it's been ten years since the betrayal and I have never been in another relationship. Never again. I think it's PTSD. I would much rather just be alone than have to potentially deal with the same or a similar situation again. It's much less stress. I do miss certain aspects of companionship but I like the peace of mind that comes with being single and not having an intense attachment.

@gailnichols1284

Жыл бұрын

35 years after my betrayal I married the most wonderful man. I was fine single - and my husband claims that is why he found me so attractive.

@glenicasdream

Жыл бұрын

I couldn't agree with you more. This is exactly how I live.

@mayamichelle6741

Жыл бұрын

It is the same for me. 10 years later... and I just can't. I think it is also because I also suffered from familial betrayal beforehand. Thank you for sharing.

@dylannaenzo9737

Жыл бұрын

Methinks after a person has spent time "feeling alone" wtih a narcissist is in the same house, peace and solitude feels exponentially better. Sad but true.

@ravenraven966

Жыл бұрын

@@mayamichelle6741 , yes .. for me it's the same ....so many betrayals from those we love.

One realization I had that was a great shortcut to overcoming betrayal was: Don't pine or long for the previous relationship with the betrayer. Recognize that that prior person/relationship either does not exist anymore, or maybe they were never really vested on the same level (even if it's a spouse). Then: as many times as it takes, consider it does not make sense to long for someone that does not exist. It helped make great, quick progress... Don't long for them, rather close (slam) the door behind them.

@nicolaprice4945

2 жыл бұрын

I like this comment. It’s so true 👍

@mistermobile2615

2 жыл бұрын

Tough with kids

@skywalker847

2 жыл бұрын

For me, it triggered childhood trauma, ptsd.

@chellefell1331

2 жыл бұрын

but in your mind they did exsist. so you have to grieve them like a death. if you keep telling yourself that person in your mind never exsisted, you will feel more shame. thats how it was for me, anyway.

@paulajjeanes3828

2 жыл бұрын

I've thought about that in fact I didn't even want a reconciliation I wanted to see how much the world has changed since myself changed and discovered it doesn't change along with me it drifts to a literal parralel timeline so now I know my answer for one time only which is good enough to apply to everything now.

Never forgive a partner who betrays. Never trust anyone 100% either. Always always always Have a backup plan without them.

@musikeradaw

Жыл бұрын

The speaker went back to her husband though 🤷🏻‍♀️

@miskatonicuniversityavclub202

Жыл бұрын

@@musikeradaw yeah not smart. People do not change. They can change habits, lifestyle etc but certain attributes like the ones missing when someone cheats and lies, that doesn't change. If someone is a low value person, they remain that way.

@16gambit16

Жыл бұрын

​@@miskatonicuniversityavclub202 that's not necessarily true. People can follow therapy and grow. But that's also a choice

I felt so alone and ashamed until she said others have felt the effects of a betrayal for years. I have been suffering since 2018 ever since my ex fiance cheated and ghosted, leaving me with no answers or context. This has been wreaking havoc within me, and people keep saying "its been years! How can you still hold on?! Move on!" I always felt ashamed when I was told that because I never had an answer, but I also never knew how to let go. I know im not alone, and im just begining to understand the depth of what im going through and how its affected and changed me as a person, and how ive let it ruin potential relationships. I wont lie, i shed a tear listening to this video. It hit so close to home. These videos randomly popped up on KZread and i have never even thought to search for answers before. How does one heal? What steps should I begin to take? Ive accepted the old me is dead, and I have to rebuild from this new me. Damaged, scared to let others in. Bitter and cynical, and more introverted.

@krunalbhatt110

6 ай бұрын

bro you have my back, whatever you have described here happens with me just 4 months before. i may not have long experience as you do but believe me it's the worst i have felt till date and never again. i don't know how long i can survive this but only reason i am still alive is i am scared of committing suicide.

@jachin5177

6 ай бұрын

@krunalbhatt110 do you need a friend? I'll gladly talk to you and support you and we can get over this together. I'm so sorry that happened to you. Nobody deserves that kind of pain and trauma.

@krunalbhatt110

6 ай бұрын

@@jachin5177 sure buddy. Even these kind words are also welcome ! I am from India where are you from?

@jachin5177

6 ай бұрын

@krunalbhatt110 I'm from the USA. You wanna talk on here or elsewhere? You have discord?

@emd5095

6 ай бұрын

❤️ I’m sorry,

I don’t tolerate narcissistic jerks who repeatedly mistreat you!

Betrayal is not just about the pain...it can result in the end of the relationship and the requirement to "begin a new way of life"! The consequences of betrayal actually create PTSD in the victim and the world does not recognize it. If the victim has children its even worse. And if the victim cannot afford to leave the cheater..the betrayer...OMG then the PTSD is even worse.

@redarbz6545

2 жыл бұрын

It is hard, your body aches, every look is of disgust, you feel it in your core.. it vibrates in your whole body and takes all your energy, it hurts you not your spouse with such intensity... It's traumatic, choking, and more importantly life-changing.. There no coming back from it, some core belief has been broken and it can't be fixed... and there is no positive transformation from it only the bad comes afterwards..

@kamalbhandari5059

2 жыл бұрын

I can't afford to leave! I dying everyday from last 7 months

@jonathanbecker8935

2 жыл бұрын

You're so right! It's totally a new trauma which no one really acknowledges. It can be abusive too. Esp when there's been gaslighting at times when you noticed things and called them out, only to hear denials and claims of innocence. Gaslighting IS emotional abuse on its face. When they STILL refuse to admit to behaviors which cause pain for their spouse. It's just brutal. Getting through it is brutal. And living your life at the same time you're trying to get through it is so hard. It's probably pretty normal to feel like you just want to give up. If for no other reason then to make the pain go away. Because the pain can be so unrelenting.

@zoolzool1

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonathanbecker8935 You can't make people "see" anything. Not what they're doing or how wrong it is or what it does to other people. You do have control over your own life. Leave. Move on. Transform. One step at a time. No matter where you're at right now, keep going. I guarantee you, you're worth it.

@micasilver210

Жыл бұрын

@@kamalbhandari5059 pray to the Lord Jesus to save your soul and show you the way. He will give you strength,...your time will come. Will!

My shock when I answered the phone call from my husband after 19!yrs of marriage. He said, “I don’t think I want to be married anymore.” The beginning of the end. He betrayed me, mostly he betrayed our children. It’s painful to get through, but you do. To those out there, you will move on, believe me, you can do this. Everyday day you grow stronger.

Week 1 of being betrayed by my girlfriend, it was gut wrenching. A feeling I honestly have never felt and would not wish on anyone. Doing a post betrayal challenge and giving myself 6 months to transform feeling like this and my life after watching this video by accident.

@amehta23

4 ай бұрын

Dealing with that after 24 years of marriage. Week 1 was very painful, week 2 still numb..

@maxwoodcock1860

Ай бұрын

How are you holding up?

There are so many types of betrayals...But talking about betrayal in relationships..There is no way I would re-marry a person who cheated. Life is too short and precious for me to wonder .... Broken trust can never be fully fixed.

@daisychain4503

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed, when someone shows you who they are, believe them and move on

@SamP1888

3 жыл бұрын

@@daisychain4503 but then she says she remarried her husband. hmm.

@FreckledGemini

3 жыл бұрын

D P Unfortunately I always see how I can help and sacrifice myself. Don’t with that 💩

@oliverposch666

3 жыл бұрын

I had two in 2019.......my now ex girlfriend with affair and best friend...... Dont resist the pain, accept it, accept that you made a mistake by letting in the wrong people in your life and listen to your intuition.

@klmac3721

3 жыл бұрын

She didn't say he 'cheated on her'; betrayal takes many forms.

Being betrayed gave me courage. I lowered my expectations and walked through life being my own best friend. Helped also by the line in the song ‘Me and Bobby Magee’ - “Freedom’s just another word for nothing left to lose”. It helped me to lighten up and break away from attachment.

@janetamplin7318

3 жыл бұрын

So me my best friends. Are me myself and I. And I luvvv it thank you never ever remarry. After the 1st marriage especially if children are involved. This 1st marriage with children will always. And so they should be The Family

@mimis5140

3 жыл бұрын

Perfect Song, I'm gonna go listen to it. I'm homeless due to a psychopath husband ...rough rough 26 yrs, I'm free to roam the planet!

@colleenshea2293

2 жыл бұрын

I believe there is real happiness in breaking free from some of the normative ideas around "attachment".

@mistermobile2615

2 жыл бұрын

I was just cheated on by my wife, an emotional affair, but an affair nonetheless. I f'n devastated and going through chemo treatments at the same time. How do I get away from attachment?

@harmonyhero9509

2 жыл бұрын

@@mistermobile2615 Practice detaching. I can feel the difference of when I am attached versus when I am not. When I feel myself starting to attach I say To myself I am detached with Love I am detached with love in my head and I feel my energy come back to me. So simple but it works!!

You cannot survive this world without betrayal. I've been betrayed in some of the worst ways. But it's a part of life. We must deal with it, mend our souls and live the best we can.

It's taken me 15 years to accept the betrayal and the fact that my only fault was to allow it to get so personal. His loss, not mine. I have learnt how to love myself, accept myself and live for myself! 🎉❤ And, as I learnt to give unconditional love to all (not foolishly) it has set me free! Love yourself folks!

It’s really messed up when your own mother betrays you for no reason. It’s been a painful nightmare and a hellish experience to know that the one person in the whole wide world who was suppose to have your back never did.

@chellefell1331

2 жыл бұрын

yes. i have no words. i just agree wholeheartedly. that betrayal is one i cant describe

@lunabetul9590

Жыл бұрын

Same here sis

@rajubandi3607

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. I can't even express these words.

@jonahshriver3358

Жыл бұрын

You're not alone.

@SHurd-rc2go

Жыл бұрын

Betrayed by both parents, so screwed up forever re: relationships. Never mind therapy. Thankful for good friendships.

I was severely betrayed by someone I loved for 7 years. It's amazing how delusional I allowed myself to be. The person I cared so deeply about was nothing what I thought he was at all. He should have been an actor...he missed his true calling.

@sandrastubbs581

2 жыл бұрын

I have walked in the those exact shoes...

@Boniggy2500

2 жыл бұрын

Same here except its been 17yrs and we have 3 kids. I just cant believe my wife did what she did and stepped out of the marriage. She had so many options but chose the wrong path.

I was once a victim of heart break. My husband was cheating on me for about 2 years in our marriage. When I became suspicious, he always says that I am looking for excuses since I haven't caught him. But there was allot of red flags and so I talked to a friend. who advised me and connected to some professional. Who helped me uncover everything with proofs, so he can't deny it. I was so devastated when I found out but I am glad I did. Because I was getting so troubled at heart. But after this, I found a way to gain back my inner peace. Sometimes it is better to know than to just keep being troubled at heart. I am happy that I did take those steps.

@xialee5703

Жыл бұрын

how did you find out?

@phawtakhun3652

Жыл бұрын

I employed the help of a professional, who helped me to uncover everything with evidence. Here is his contact no. below

@phawtakhun3652

Жыл бұрын

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Жыл бұрын

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Жыл бұрын

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I started crying when this clip started. Yes I was betrayed just like you, by family then by someone I loved and trusted. Of course I internalized it and pain became a habit.

@oliviaswann4686

Жыл бұрын

I internalised narcissistic abuse too. I understand

"Even though it was done to you... it wasn't about you." PROFOUND.

@nicolaprice4945

3 жыл бұрын

This is the most important thing to remember!! Really good point.

@casedinlight

2 жыл бұрын

I don't really understand this in my case. I was intentionally excluded from my base ball team every game because of my ability. It WAS about me.

@tronlady1

2 жыл бұрын

So who is it about then? I really want to understand but this is coming across like nonsense?

@osnapitzennu

2 жыл бұрын

@@tronlady1 i understood it this way, that the person who betrayed you probably didn't do it for the reason of ripping your soul out, but because they themselves had issues, and didn't know how to deal with the situation. They chose their own comfort and feelings over yours. But this says more about them, than you. The betrayal was their inability to meet you halfway, and it doesn't define you in any way. I hope i explained it good enough..

@tronlady1

2 жыл бұрын

@@osnapitzennu brilliant thankyou

"Trauma is the setup for transformation" is an affirmation I will use to get through this time. Thank you!

@cindysharmony

Жыл бұрын

Well said

@MichaelReed609

Жыл бұрын

Total bs but whatever helps you sleep at night

@Beanssss_

11 ай бұрын

Whatever floats your boat, but try to not fall into "Glorifying your Truama" trap

@monarene44

4 ай бұрын

Just like a heart attack forces your body to take a break, an interpersonal trauma forces your entire psyche to step back and reevaluate.

I suffer from this 100%, everyone in my life has let me down. Family, Parents,relationships… everyone. It’s just sad

@Spartan-Of-Truth

6 ай бұрын

Same. I’ve been isolated almost completely for about 3 years now.

@user-ki2ft6ot6v

4 ай бұрын

​@@Spartan-Of-Truth how r u now brother ?

@user-ki2ft6ot6v

4 ай бұрын

​@@Spartan-Of-Truthcurrently I'm facing a very tough situation bro recently I found out that my wife was cheated me again even though I forgive her last time .I think it's d time to leave her but we have a 2years old daughter I can't live without her and I'm so confused right now I don't know what to do .....

I’ve had so many betrayals beginning at age 2. They multiply and are more painful each time.

Took me 50 yrs to finally figure out my sister is a covert narcassist. Hard pill to swallow but once I swallowed it, I was free.

@rachelleanna3

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, me too! She took my siblings with her.

@letthesunshinethru2355

3 жыл бұрын

I can relate, took me my whole life to figure it out, because I was hoping it wasn't so.

@autsept7116

3 жыл бұрын

@@rachelleanna3 and my daughter

@rachelleanna3

3 жыл бұрын

@@autsept7116 So sorry!

@MrCph2200

3 жыл бұрын

45 years here with a close family member

Anger is one of the emotions I try to control. Betrayal shakes you to your core. The rug has been pulled from under you or spite you. It hurts. It’s fury. I was abandoned. Chewed up and spat out like gum. I heal changing my direction moving forward.

@CountryBlossoms1

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I felt like I was "spat out like gum" too. I was deserted by my boyfriend as soon as he found out I was pregnant, over 41 years ago. I was 26, and he was 31....we were not kids. We both had good jobs. The week before I found out, we were looking in a Jewellery Shop window, as I was looking for a silver watch, and he was looking at Engagement rings...he said to me "I guess we don't really need to get engaged, as we have both been married before" - my head turned to him, and I said with a smile "So, is that a proposal?" and he said "Yes, well I guess it is" Within 10 days or so...he just did not want anything to do with me or his baby. I still cannot fathom his reaction. My daughter is now 41 years old. I went on to meet someone who wanted to be with me when I was 8 months pregnant, and he eventually adopted my daughter, and we got married when she was 18 months old. My daughter has known the true story of her biological father since the start, and has never wanted to meet him....so far. What he did to me almost completely broke me. I kept going because of the baby inside me.

@susanm1470

Жыл бұрын

@@CountryBlossoms1 thank you for sharing

@halonirvana

Жыл бұрын

Yea

This speech made me understand so much. My husband used his bad habit for many years, and neglected to tell me of his bad habit. So once I figured it out, I was so angry and that was almost 10yrs ago. The worse part is, there is very little change. Sure, maybe the habit stopped, but our marriage has not improved much. Her speech gave me the validation to know that it completely demolishes u as a person and all the emotions I feel are totally normal and valid. This helps me know that I can re build bigger and better. My whole life has been a series of 1 trauma after another. Im sick of the hurt and the pain. I wanna enjoy life and be happy. When do I get my share of happy?! I have been in so much pain for so long, my creative nature is gone. It rarely is resurrected. It affects every aspect of my life. Im the girl who caters to everyone else because Ive been hurt so much, I dont want to make them hurt if I can help it. I still love my husband, but this aspect I cant live with.

@pamelaleland2014

2 ай бұрын

Honey, please check out CODA - you’re not alone, and it’s not ok to remain a doormat. Speaking as a recovering codependent doormat… Healthy Boundaries - make them, maintain them, enforce them. You Are Worthy. Start Now.

Debi thanks for explaining the significant difference between resilience and transformation. People suffering from PTSD needs to be transformed not coached in resilience.

“I was wounded in the house of my friends.” -Jesus Christ

@melissaengland63

3 жыл бұрын

You said it. My husbands been cheating with my best friend for 3 yrs. When he was caught he immediately packed a bag & left. Then he and my friend blamed me for

@raeannaroylance5401

3 жыл бұрын

@@melissaengland63 that sounds terrible I’m so sorry😞

@ferniegutierrez5605

3 жыл бұрын

@@raeannaroylance5401 Are you talking about Jesus of Nazareth? Do you have a Bible Verse for that?

@raeannaroylance5401

3 жыл бұрын

@@ferniegutierrez5605 Zechariah 13:6 “And one shall say unto him, What are these wounds in thine hands? Then he shall answer, Those with which I was wounded in the house of my friends.”

@nunya257

3 жыл бұрын

@@melissaengland63 Truly horrific. Betrayal is always about the betrayer. Don’t accept any blame. They both could have handled it very differently, even if it still meant the end of your marriage and they ended up together. I don’t care if you are the most difficult person imaginable, they are still both completely at fault. I hope you’re able to move beyond and grow from it.

I will never be who I was before betrayal, but I wasn’t happy then either, so I’m going to rebuild myself and my life and be intentional with my progress and my decisions and not let life just happen to me.

@shelleydooney3720

2 жыл бұрын

I was very happy when I met the narc, happiest and healthiest I'd been in years. I was excited about dating at 50, thinking it would be fun.

Wow. All I can say is thank you for giving me a voice.

the disillusionment of the first time I really had someone close to me betray my trust was overwhelming. I'm glad that people like Debi are out there helping people with this.

I was really connecting with this until the moment she said she remarried him! What?? All that healing & grieving just to take back the cheater ? No way. Once there’s betrayal, it’s over for good for me. I’m divorcing after 23 yrs married. Cheating & betrayal is unforgivable and nothing can reverse those actions.

@goldenmeanphaseconjunction313

3 жыл бұрын

It hurts to be hurt, it’s also painful to never let trust live again.

@julieu4341

3 жыл бұрын

@@goldenmeanphaseconjunction313 Trust can live again, but in a new relationship, not with the one who betrayed your trust. It will never be the same no matter what you do. Trust is very fragile. That’s my personal feeling on it.🙏🏼

@goldenmeanphaseconjunction313

3 жыл бұрын

@@julieu4341 I hear ya.... have any children? Lol I hear ya I hear ya.

@ashleylucente2741

3 жыл бұрын

I disagree. Just because that was the case for you, doesn't mean it is that way for everyone. Lots of couples heal and find happiness in their marriage again and eventually build trust. It is understandable if that's not what you chose, but some people are able to make changes and start anew.

@darylburnet8328

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. My father always said sorry to Mum but continued to beat her up physically and mentally. She is dead, he is alive.

*Unable to breath* . . Only the victims can realise how true this is.

It’s been 6 years. Feels like yesterday.

@cmnr8487

3 ай бұрын

8 for me, and yes it is always right 'there' front and center.

My first husband cheated on me and left when I was 6 months pregnant. I didn't date for 5 years after that. I remarried 10 years later to a man I thought would be faithful. Year 7 my 2nd husband confesses his unfaithfulness. It completely devastated me. 2 husbands and both cheated on me. I felt so unlovable. My husband was filled with remorse but rebuilding and trying to love again was work but it has not been easy. It's been 21 years since that day. I still struggle with feeling loved by my spouse, triggers happen. Yes you can heal and overcome and move on but there are always flashbacks of that heartache.

@hailiballard

4 ай бұрын

I hope you know that you are so incredibly strong. Coming from someone who also was betrayed by someone I deeply loved with all of my heart, it really has nothing to do with you. That is the hardest part to wrap your head around. It’s in their blood and they never truly can make up for it. They don’t have the mental capacity to like we do. We love deeply and they know what they lost. They lost you, not the other way around.

@passerby6168

3 ай бұрын

As a man I'm sorry that was done to you. Even though I shouldn't feel guilty as an individual who didn't do that to you, there's a part of me that does. Unless there's something wrong with us, we are capable of falling to temptation and then repenting, holding our hands up. We can't step on the same piece of water twice but it appears your current husband, even though he committed the same sin, had a different reaction to seeing what he was capable of, and confessed AND sought to make amends, which is part of true repentance. My ex-partner cheated and said she shouldn't be with me anymore because of that. I told her this: "So your solution to betrayal, is permanent betrayal." I know it won't be easy at times and you've said as much yourself. But God bless you both for fixing instead of throwing away. Much love.

@eventhere2788

3 ай бұрын

@passerby6168 I'm so sorry for what you went through. How very sad she didn't have the guts and depth of love to work at your relationship. I pray God brings someone special and I know only HE can heal that void.

@passerby6168

3 ай бұрын

@@eventhere2788 Thank you so much for your blessing. Means a lot. Yes, you're right, the void is healing thanks to Him, and I will let Him choose whether someone special should come into my life once again. His will be done.

So- I got over my betrayal, the loss of the woman I loved, and finally learned to trust and love, only to be betrayed again. Now I'm cold and empty.

@TheRonskins

3 жыл бұрын

😔😔😔😔

@SP-li7wn

3 жыл бұрын

❤️

@drewmarcum6481

3 жыл бұрын

Dust yourself off. Take a look at Gregory red pill mens health, im in the club too. 10 years, emotional blackmail.

@moniquewatson6231

3 жыл бұрын

The fact that you were able to forgive and move forward says a lot more about who you are and who you can be. Give yourself credit for that. Some people never recover. Why give someone the ability to change you.... to turn you cold and angry. People who love hard can hurt hard. Time will never heal the wounds . What you do with that time is key. Don’t destroy yourself.

@sherapontaoe3214

3 жыл бұрын

I get it. Give yourself all you have for YOU!!

31 Male been in a relationship with an abusive narcissist woman for 3 years (living together)...she manipulated me so much that I was not able to see all the bad things that she would do to me, (lies, psychological abuse, cheating etc) at the point that I was blaming myself for everything. As a 6'2 bearded, tattooed and muscular man I was so ashamed of myself cuz society teaches us that men can't be abused and especially if you look like me you can't be abused but most likely you are the abuser, so I never really opened up with anybody about this as I knew that the only reply that I would get would have been "Man up", or nobody would have believed me for the way that I look as a masculine man. Plus I don't live in my country so my family and closest friends were not there, I was basically by my own and dealing with it. I was daily humiliated in many ways but I was not able to understand it or if I was recognizing some behaviors of hers were "not fine" I was always thinking that was my fault...many ppl would say "why didn't leave her?" but I was blind like many ppl who are abused.... 2 and 1/2 years ago finally after yet another abuse I found the strenght to leave her. But since then, I found out how those 3 years broken me and how broken I am still...can't trust any woman, I never date or hang out or deal with a woman never since.

@raquelarrojo8377

2 жыл бұрын

Believe that you are one of the lucky ones. You are learning about relationships. Only 3 years, you were able to leave, lucky you didn't have children or had married already. I know it is painful to experience what you have, but you are out of it now and you are young and free.

@shcoryell879

2 жыл бұрын

Your contents really struck my heart. I hope you are doing better now. If not, please find a coach, a counselor or some books on emotional healing to help you find your way out of this thought process. You sound like a wonderful person who has much to give and much to be able to enjoy in the right relationship. A good life coach could help you change the thoughts that have trapped you in this mindset. There are good women out there if you look in the right places.

@vanessarenae5169

2 жыл бұрын

Please don't let her win! There are many beautiful and loving woman out there that have a heart of gold like you. ❤️

@evelynarrow2108

2 жыл бұрын

I’m 35 blonde woman with a kind heart. Have 2 beautiful kids. I’ve been with their narcissist father for 6 years. He cheated on me when I was pregnant emotionally and physically. He cheated every year after emotionally I found pics/texts with random strangers. I had girls text me and telling me what he was doing. I’ve been humiliated completely. I feel so awful. I know I can’t marry him (we engaged) I am scared about becoming a single mum tho.

@jb-ze1yh

2 жыл бұрын

@@evelynarrow2108 my sons father left me when I was pregnant only to find out ( after we tried again to make it work) that he was still seeing the girl. I never knew about her origins but it was so hurtful. I’m a single mom and sooooo happy now. I never have to worry about him cheating on me again, lying to me, misusing my trust. And now our son can see a healthy mother and know that happiness exists in life!!! You can do this! 🙏🙏

It’s amazing how the people that tell you they love you the most are the ones that always screw you over. My last relationship I did everything in the world to please the guy. I thought we might get married one day. He always told me how much he loved me. Come to find out he was a complete liar. He did me wrong in a situation, I was willing to try to heal and forgive, yet he dumped me And blamed me

'The greatest revenge is to live well'. So instead of a betrayal being a mill-stone, the betrayal becomes a stepping-stone ! Onwards and upwards . . .

So true, I have transformed. The pain is like no other. Yet you find a way, for me that way is Jesus.

@txxx5639

3 жыл бұрын

It's so easy to get side tracked :( thank you for highlighting the way! Jesus! 🙏🏼 it helped me that you shared. God bless!

@adrianlanief85

3 жыл бұрын

Clout

@nayrtnartsipacify

2 жыл бұрын

Jesus is part of the betrayal of the anglo saxons to the other germanic tribes. We used be something more like Hindus than Christians. I blame the italians.

@artphotography9158

2 жыл бұрын

Me too! God finally did a miracle and took panic attacks away whenever I would see or hear the betrayer. I know God gave me a break to finally live again since I was stuck and afraid. Even if God didn’t take the panic attacks away God has been the most amazing comfort and help through all the years of pain and betrayal

@jjsmama401

2 жыл бұрын

Amen! That, plus learning to be your own best friend. And having a dog or cat helps too! 😀

She literally explains what I couldn't... It is so difficult to put emotions into words. Bless you and Thank you

@dagifelner9298

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, same there. So amazing

@BrendaGreen

2 жыл бұрын

Ditto

@mohagedi6539

4 ай бұрын

How

It is a whole other kind of “grief” and causes you to second guess every decision and you get to the point where you don’t think you can trust your own judgement.

My heart hurts so badly, no words can describe

@DebiSilber

Жыл бұрын

I get it and you deserve to heal.

@jjhall5565

Жыл бұрын

@@DebiSilber I love my savor but I feel so lost and it hurts so badly to she her move on after investing so much of me and so many hundreds of thousands to restore everything broken in her life she never looked back. I destroyed

You've got to come to the understanding that that betrayal is a flaw in their character not yours. You've got to break that viscious chain. Same applies to so many other situations in life. Learn from your experiences in life and adjust your mental mindset in a way to prevent it from happening again. Plus, always trust your gut.

@sanjanagrover7436

2 ай бұрын

Yesss

The first 2 minutes is how I've been feeling for the past two weeks and she worded the emotional turmoil from betrayal perfectly. Not too long ago, I experienced betrayal and was blindsided by someone who I thought would never be capable of doing so. I was wrong. I'm questioning myself, questioning everything he's ever said or done, questioning who he is as a person. Why are relationships worth it at all?

@unwujoh

2 жыл бұрын

*☝️He was able to give me access to my partner device🙏*

@dreamer7157

Жыл бұрын

how are you doing now?

"Never put the key for your own happiness in someone else's pocket." As babies/toddlers we were pretty vulnerable and dependent. If we don't successfully individuate (and how many of us actually do?) then the first betrayal is the one where we give our own power away to our initial caretakers. Parents, siblings, grandparents, schoolmates, etc. etc. To me, now, it looks like betrayal may actually be a necessary milestone on the way to wholeness. After we get back to wholeness (individuate successfully and maturely) we realize that "We are the One we've been waiting for."

It’s a double crush. The betrayal itself and then absolutely zero support because they are the person you normally run to for comfort and now you have no one. It’s horrid.

The analogy about rebuilding the destroyed house! Wow! It's been 8 months since my wife betrayed and left me and her family after 25 years of marriage. If it wasn't for the kids and my elderly parents needing me, I would have ended my life. I still fantasize about doing it to make the pain stop. The house story made me feel like I don't wish I was dead for the first time in 8 months, even though the feeling was only for a brief moment, it still helps a lot because now I know that wanting to live and move forward is actually possible. After months of people giving "advice," this is the first and only thing I've found helpful.

@mimidramos

2 жыл бұрын

Mike, I don't know if you're a christian but check the book 'How God can and will restore your marriage' (Erin Thiele) and Restore Ministries International.

@mikey92362

2 жыл бұрын

@@mimidramos Yes I am a Christian, but nothing can be restored if the wife is gone. It's good though. Time really does heal all wounds. I'm feeling better every day. Thanks! :)

@divyatasinghrathore1550

2 жыл бұрын

Same here Mike, I did discover my self though post the trauma. The core values I stand for & set in place some boundaries, hobbies that I enjoy. Rebuild & redefine, while doing so do notice your limiting beliefs & annihilate them.

@carolmaz8675

Жыл бұрын

Be strong for your children . Partners come and go never put your happiness in someone else’s hands . Your children are the most important thing they need a stable parent .. forget someone whose cheated they just were not meant to be with you long term . One door closes another opens . Put all your energy and love into your children and encourage them to be happy . If your happy they will be happy they pick up on things .. life moves on never give your happiness to anyone else to control .. happiness comes from within then new things appear . Stay positive look up manifesting x good luck 😊

@Larrymopac

Жыл бұрын

Mike God bless you

What I find hard about this talk, is that it almost sounds like the betrayal was a positive thing. I can think of many non-betrayal ways that can lead to a good transformation. Don't get me wrong, I found this quite useful. But one thing that makes it hard to do great after betrayal, is if the betrayer thinks they did a good thing to you after all.

@mechillewedel3968

2 жыл бұрын

This ^^^^

@MP-gw5kw

2 жыл бұрын

I could understand this. It’s like you want to say it turned out to be a good thing as it transformed you for the better, the change you absolutely needed; but don’t want to give credit to the betrayer. That’s where I’m at.

@Nopety-Nope

2 жыл бұрын

@@MP-gw5kw I am sorry you are there. I had my bout with betrayal in December 2019. At least that is when all things started coming to light. All my memories that were good from a certain timeframe seemed slaughtered by betrayal. The hardest thing I did was stay with my spouse. It was incredibly hard for me to start getting through. 2 years later I still burn inside with reminders. It has been tough. I absolutely will not stay if it happens again. My heart can't do it. I hope this isn't you, and I hope it gets better for you and that you can separate good memories from bad, unlike me. I hope all good things happen to you, and that the betrayer truly learns from this.

@melodiechi6940

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. I understand that our lives are in our own hands once the trauma is done. But too many people have assigned "meaning" to my traumas. "See? You're so strong. Your experiences made you more resilient," "Everything happens for a reason." No. Trauma is never justified.

@noosterdan7136

2 жыл бұрын

I started having a bad taste in my mouth after minute 5:35. "if we don't learn the profound lesson that betrayal was there to teach, we get repeat betrayal" sounds really close to victim blaming. After that the entire talk feels like promoting something i would never buy from the speaker.

Yep. All you have to do is become wildly successful in your chosen career and this should win back the person who crushed you. Got it.

It's so devastating knowing you've been cheated on... After giving everything

Betrayal will always be an open festering wound that no amount of emotional or psychotherapy plasters can ever cover up let alone heal it is the evilest of sins!

It’s hard to heal when your partner continues to cheat and lie and does nothing to help you heal , and pretends he isn’t doing anything wrong :(

I've been isolated 5 years next month. I'm just starting to work on me. I've felt so very alone. My husband didn't cheat he just walked out after never having a single disagreement. A Friend who understands would be amazing. The Trauma response blew me away, I'm in my 40s and I never imagined breaking so completely. Hardest part is being judged for it. If death everyone would be supportive but when it's because of something that logically most people deal with, people judge the Trauma making it worse.

@cecile-p

Жыл бұрын

So sorry... You have every right to feel bad and be supported. I hope you're getting better !

@h0stile420

5 ай бұрын

I have also isolated myself for almost 4 years know how it feels, now I'm slowly entering a "recovery phase".

Betrayal doesn't leave you. You can heal, and put forth the effort to not allow it to happen again. Then someone dear to you (family, friends, partner) betrays you again. It tears you from limb to limb. Heart to soul. It causes you to live in a box, guarded from everything and everyone.

@robinberry4957

Жыл бұрын

I still say that my cat is my best friend and only God is my savior.

@hl2921

Жыл бұрын

Agreed ....I can deal with it from a partner.....even my parents......but your child .....I'm done....my dogs have been more loyal than all of them combined.....of course my Savior.

Absolutely right about betrayal : it was done to you and it's not about you. Take the broken glass and fix it beautiful, better than before and live again. Amen, healing does come. Thank you 🙏.

I feel exploited and I don’t know how to let go of the resentment. Knowing they’re okay..

@DebiSilber

3 жыл бұрын

Zara-It's a process and that energy needs to be spent on your healing vs. them.

@alexisk360

3 жыл бұрын

@@DebiSilber trying..

@PC-sq9oc

3 жыл бұрын

Do you really believe 'they' are 'ok'? If you have been the person receiving the betrayal.....the person handing it out can be very broken as I am truly seeing and learning in my own process of recovery from this from someone I thought was my forever (33+ years together)....hurts, but learning to be strong for ME and not be the one to always pick him up....hope you find your peace...

@moniquewatson6231

3 жыл бұрын

You might need to look at coaching or therapy. You need a place to feel safe and process your pain. Trying to remember that it’s not about you it’s a choice someone else made. This sounds cheesy but it is a fact. Time does not heal wounds but what you do in and during that time is very important. You can not allow the pain to turn into bitterness, it will eat you from the inside out. Try to find things that make you smile and laugh.

@evearcana2392

3 жыл бұрын

Neurofeedback therapy love - reprogram your mind

I've recently found out that I'm not the only woman in my husband's life. It was utterly shattering to me. Still is. I love him and we're trying to mend our marriage, but the hurt, the pain - still there. I cut off all bonds to the other one and I want to move forward. I feel completely traumatised. Crying fits, anger fits you name it. And also, times when we do have a wonderful time, hug each other etc. He told me he would never leave me. He told her he would never leave me. I have to accept and move on. However, it will take time to build up trust and respect for him. If ever. I love him, but hate what he's done. And she knew, the other one, that he was married. In my code of dating: I would never nor have I ever gone after an already taken man. Sure, I did have changes to do that when I was single, but I turned them down and said a clear NO. I just cannot get around my head the morals of that woman. I have so many bad words for her right now (I'm sure you know what they are), but that's probably because I'm so hurt and in pain. And please tell me this: What is a woman who goes on a vacation with a married man who just wants to you know (not sure if I can write out the word here), getting the whole vacation paid (paying nothing), what is she? I told my husband to his face what she was. He got pissed. But to me - there's only one word for it.

@tedfinger

11 ай бұрын

If he’s getting mad on her behalf, how can he be remorseful? In my experience, cheaters don’t stop cheating. They feel entitled to do it.

@Bumbledora

11 ай бұрын

@@tedfinger He's not remorseful at all. I have an autoimmune disease so therefore I wasn't and isn't able to have 6 that often. But we did have it. Clearly, not enough for him. I can understand that, but he could have talked to me before cheating on me. I'm determined to stay in the marriage for several reasons: 1. I still love him though right now furious 2. I took care of our kid whilst he made a career, so if I'd leave, I would have nothing 3. I love our family and as a family we have very much fun and nice times together 4. I do believe him when he tells me over and over again how much he loves me But there's some cons of course: 1. I can never trust him again 2. I've lost all respect for him 3. I don't believe in every word or meaning he tells me You may think I'm crazy to stay and I may be that, crazy. But when you still really love someone, seeing the good (and the bad) in the person and good actually is stronger... well, that's why I'm staying. Sure, I could probably get support from family and friends about the economy. He'll never cheat again. I'm watching him like a hawk.

@tedfinger

11 ай бұрын

@@Bumbledora You will spend the rest of your life watching him like a hawk. I’ve learned that playing marriage police gets to be very exhausting and demoralizing. I stayed with my ex wife for similar reasons for 7 years. Those were the most miserable years of my life. It wasn’t possible to stop her from cheating. Also, as the marriage got worse, things at home got worse, and our kids were growing up in a toxic home environment. It wasn’t good for them either.

@Bumbledora

11 ай бұрын

@@tedfinger Kids all grown up, left the nest, but we still have get-togethers. I know about watching him like a hawk. But, I'm giving it a try. Then - if I really feel like "This is it" I'm leaving. I do understand what you're telling me and of course, I may be naive in some ways. Hugs 🌹

@thebluetrain6797

10 ай бұрын

Respect to you for doing what you can to keep your marriage together. That takes courage. Too many people would just take the easy way out and walk away. People can and do change, so I hope you can both work it out.

I would have never thought she was going to say that she was able to rebuild a new relationship with her husband after betrayal. That is so hopeful. I know that is not always possible, but in a world that would have told you to move on and find someone who truly loves you, etc, hardly anyone has the hope to believe that true reconciliation is possible. Of course, both parties must be willing. That is so encouraging.

@CHICKENLIFE336

7 ай бұрын

I want the same, we both want the same. Pray for us that we make it through to the other side

“Rebuilding is always a choice.” Beautiful speech!

@cmnr8487

3 ай бұрын

it can be a bad choice.

This brought me to tears 😢 so powerful. I’m in love with the person that betrayed me the most and he is the father of my son. And this is my second attempt at trying to rebuild with him. And what’s ironic is, my lack of trust is no longer in him … but myself 😞 but going in this time with better tools. Stronger communication skills and an openness to see things from his perspective. My strength and love to anyone trying to repair a broken connection ♥️

@goldenlifelove7251

8 ай бұрын

Stop going back to him & trying to mske ot work! I'm sure you're in part "trying for the sake of the child" which really doesn't help the child in the long run. Learn to be at peace w/ not being with him & raising your son healthily in a co-parent situation.

I really admire that she found a constructive way of dealing with that betrayal!

When I first saw the title of your Ted Talk, I thought, "Oh, I have to listen to this! I was hopeful for some fresh, new introspection on the devastating trauma caused by the betrayals of people with whom you believed you shared love & trust... BUT, I was so disappointed by the ending & I have to wonder: If you hadn't had a husband who was willing to rebuild with you, who'd blindsided you by leaving to be with someone else & with whom you never spoke again, would you be speaking with such hope & enthusiasm for the future? I think NOT! You are speaking now about a past trauma that you believe you rose up from & sincere congrats to you, BUT I think you also need to understand that you're looking at your past betrayal from a place that MOST of us DO NOT experience. What if you're husband had left your life for good!? AND because of several of decades of childhood trauma followed by numerous blindsides by your family, you are no alone & have no one with whom you feel completely safe!? Somehow I don't think your perspective would be so joyful...

@MrCph2200

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!!

@brendagregoryyuen4923

3 жыл бұрын

Yes - this is where I am with my extended family. It feels like they have nothing left for me - they cannot see their destruction (I was left to deal with that on my own and I did). And for ten years I kept reaching out and hoping. But that hope was all one-sided. And now I just have to accept that a relationship is two-sided or it isn't a relationship (even if you are family). So that is my work now. To accept what is and move on. Not easy when it's your siblings, aunts, cousins, etc. This is what happens in families where there is abuse and dysfunction and that is the "normal" and you one day realize you can NOT accept that normal for your own children. Life can really be intensely hard and punishing.

@realitywave

3 жыл бұрын

My story exactly. That is why I live with dogs. Unlike humans, they know true loyalty.

@sophiangobeni6523

2 жыл бұрын

The transformation that she speaks of I think it shouldn't be about the next person, but about yourself, are the people who hurt worthy of you living in misery? I finally understand why forgiveness is said to be for ourselves and not our perpetrators, if you believe you're worthy of a joyful life then it makes no sense to poison your soul with resentment. Pour into yourself and absolve yourself from people's actions because it was done to you, but was never about you especially a cheating spouse, they cheat to satisfy themselves and their insatiability has nothing to do with you, and if the betrayal is from family or friends then their actions are by-products of their souls and their personal traumas which has nothing to do with you. I pray you find healing and comfort.

@granniefromky

2 жыл бұрын

@@realitywave yes, but cats.

I understand. I liken my experiences as a tsunami that I saw coming, tried to get out of the way. It unbelievably doubled in size and overwhelmed not just my home, but my entire world. After it passed, there was nothing to rebuild, nothing to rebuild with. I had no choice but to carry on, but with what? I know in my heart who I am, what I've done, and what I haven't done. There is nothing, at all, anyone can say that will change that. As a result, I no longer "need" anyone in my life to validate my identity, and I am finally free, and at peace with myself and the world.

@shansational1803

3 жыл бұрын

Ah, you remind me of a similar dream. We swam out to meet the wave and later danced on a suitcase. Several weeks later the same boardwalk appeared rebuilt by others, but I was only visiting.

@treemoon6394

3 жыл бұрын

Wow.

@joanwiddoes5993

3 жыл бұрын

God is in the storm

@blissfulignorance6452

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Beautifully said. I feel the same. I don't need anyone to validate my Identity and I don't need their fake love. And I came to conclusion that the idea of trusting someone is the most ridiculous and overpromoted thing ever because a trust is simply a hope, your misty expectation backed up by another misty promise flying somewhere in the wind like a leaf. And we are being blinded by their empty words and becoming weak and naive instead of being vigilant and taugh. Trusting someone is a gamble and I blame my mother for teaching me this absurd about trusting people. The same goes for idiotic Hollywood movies showing such happy families and super heroes husbands and dads. When you really start analysing this you come to conclusion that the idea of marriage or just living with someone is destined for failure from the very start because is based on a false promise of trust. I feel like I've escaped from a fairy tale and now live in reality. :-)

Understanding that things DONE TO YOU were NOT DONE BECAUSE OF YOU was one of the hardest things to understand in my healing journey after I suffered severe narcissistic abuse including smear campaigns in the hands of a guy I fall deeply "in love" (love was actually love bombing from his side) "with" (I fell in love with his fake persona). And the fact that most of my family did not believe in me felt like deep betrayal (it still does, but it does not hurt like it did then). During the journey I did become a different person, at first scared and paranoid, then bitter (I figured out on my own that the roots of being vulnerable to narcissistic abuse start in early childhood and for a while I blamed my family not only for not believing in me but also for being part of my problem), then self accountable and self responsible. I did become a different person, little by little. I still carry the luck of trust. I mean if I trust someone and they do something to betray that trust I don't blame myself and forgive then right away like I used to do before meeting that sociopath. Interestingly the fact that my perspective changed and that I became more aware of people's cues did not help me to fit in with my family again. First because they did many things in betrayal of my trust such as reading my personal diary, and other stuff like that and secondly because they do not appreciate that someone puts them boundaries. However day after day I feel lesd hurt by their rejection when faced with someone who is trying to break the cycle of unhealthy habits such as blurry personal boundaries or gossipery. I less and less take it as something personal and more as their own issue with the contrast that someone who is getting out of the muddy waters they inhabit brings to them, showing them there is a bettee place and making them look themselves in the mirror and see things they don't like. Not something I made up to make myself look better than my family I've done enough research and know that "scape goats" are usually individuals who contrast with unhealthy patterns of dysfunctional families.

I like that someone is trying to spread awareness about this, I've known a lot of people who just get stuck in that post-betrayal place and completely shut down emotionally, such a shame

It’s really hard not to harbor hatred in your heart after you are betrayed but I think the best way to handle it is to work on yourself, rebuild your life and heal. Don’t go back and don’t allow anyone who cares so little about you to block you from the life you want, whatever that is. I think coming to terms with the fact that the person you thought you knew is not that person at all can be one of the most difficult parts because you keep waiting for the person you knew to return. I completely agree that it leaves you confused and angry and feeling like the mask just fell off. Trying to be the best person you could be to someone is not a fault that you have, you just need to make sure that you make a better choice next time. I’ve had to live these kinds of situations so many times in life and it’s so exhausting. Life doesn’t end because someone didn’t appreciate or love you but it definitely makes you more cautious when you’re dealing with others in general.

@DebiSilber

2 жыл бұрын

Some betrayers never wake up, some (after losing it all) realize how badly they messed up and do whatever it takes to make it right-you only see it after it occurs.

@sanashams8864

Жыл бұрын

the thing and problem is we don't know how to heal....we talk about it every timr...like i want to study.. i try to.. but then as soon as i strt studying and open my book... everything just burst into my mind and it won't go away untill i get so frustrated that i just want to scream and shout..and i get a severe headache... this has been my routine since two months... i read 5 pages and comes to know that i wasn't even mentally there.. then i have to go back on those pages to reread them... how can i just control my mind not think about them... each fight and each strugglejust flashes into my mind as soon as i open my book and then i can't even see bcs of the tears in my eyes... i will die like this OMG

@sanashams8864

Жыл бұрын

and the plus in all this is that the cheaters are happy in their lives...

What if your house gets leveled and you realize you’re uninsured? Transformation is easier with the right resources. A major reason why women need to always have a financial plan.

@alexwild4350

3 жыл бұрын

Women always have a financial plan. Its called a new boyfriend with a decent income. If they were married before the crisis its called a divorce with alimony payments and a new boyfriend with a decent income. As a man, what's your insurance to provide the right resources for transformation ?

@steviecrow914

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexwild4350 I so discourage women from the “securing a man with money” plan. I had an unemployed Vietnam vet as a dad, saw a devoted mom who thought once you’re married, the finances are taken care of. My childhood was basically a model of how those assumptions don’t always work out. So I never made them. I really caution women from taking that tact.

@Seraphimgirl1

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexwild4350 As a woman, I have purposely avoided being in a relationship/marriage until I can afford to buy my own place. I believe women need to pay their own way.

@randyvanvliet226

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexwild4350 MiGTOW ;-)

@dtony1964

2 жыл бұрын

An interesting point to make. Most women who are betrayed and left to fin for themselves don't have the resources to end up w a PhD.

Personally, i think the worst thing about betraya is that it shatters your world view. Not just how you view the person who betrayed but of yourself. I would ask myself if i have been blinded from the start? What other lies have I been told?

I'm grateful that I found and chose to listen to this. I identified with everything that was spoken of. How eery that I "really needed " to hear this at this moment in my life.

My 12 year old asked me what's the worst pain I've ever felt. It's not getting beat down in a fight or loosing my brother but getting my heart ripped out by a girl.