Do We Regret Buying a Ford Ranger Raptor?
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Not as much as you're going to regret buying the Cybertruck.
@HunterB738
12 күн бұрын
Stay mad 😡❄️
@kyloren-cd8dk
12 күн бұрын
Or a lightning 😂
@aussie2uGA
12 күн бұрын
Imagine getting to pay msrp and then being able to sell it for the same or more. The Raptor can’t claim that with Ford dealers in the middle.
@cartopia6161
12 күн бұрын
Cybertruck not a very sound business decision.
@scotto9712
12 күн бұрын
If you bought it for the clicks you likely wont regret it at all.
Best in class but ruined by dealer greed.
@marklihsu
12 күн бұрын
But somehow still cheaper than TRD pro MSRP 🤷
@IronmanV5
12 күн бұрын
@@marklihsu Thanks to the "Toyota Tax"
@nothingtoseaheardammit
12 күн бұрын
Ruined by consumers who are willing to pay dealer markups. The dealers are just selling a limited resource prices that the market will support.
@tracygraham5379
12 күн бұрын
I bought mine from Vanguard Ford in northeast Texas. Paid MSRP and not a Penney more. They did me right. Honest small Ford dealer in a rural community. Good people.
@Lexman00
12 күн бұрын
The customers decide the price and value of something, not a business. You don't understand personal responsibility.
What’s truly amazing is how little content you did with the raptor R.
@pitviper97
12 күн бұрын
I forgot they bought one!!
@jamesvasser2941
12 күн бұрын
Didn’t see the usual Ike tests or Moab run (but maybe they did them and I missed it?), no drag races vs the new mustang they bought, lol not a lot of content at all.
@ScoobyFermentation
12 күн бұрын
Roman has explained the business reasons why on a podcast. It takes hundreds if not a $1,000 to shoot one video with staff to shoot it and edit. It takes a million views to make $1,000 on KZread. There has to be a business case for every video made. It’s not easy running a KZread business. Try it.
@relmore256
12 күн бұрын
Considering they buy the vehicles in cash several of which are over 100k I think they are doing alright.
@clippertalk
11 күн бұрын
They try to be first for the views. Turn and burn, off to the next new car
Want to see a TRD Pro vs AT4X vs Ranger Raptor off-road battle
@fiftyshadesofurban
12 күн бұрын
I think this would be great, coz I am thinking about this.. TBH the ONLY reason I haven't gone out and bought this already is because of the MPG.
@Meqanicull
12 күн бұрын
I think the canyon AT4X is such an underrated model, all bells and whistles of the ZR2 in a better looking and more luxurious package. If it was me and I was deciding between the 3, AT4X would be my choice. The Ford dealer experience is enough for me to not even consider the Ranger as an option if I’m being honest, but that’s just my opinion.
@marklihsu
12 күн бұрын
Spoiler alert at4x does better rock crawling raptor nails it in desert running and the pro just can't hang
@lidolf8168
12 күн бұрын
@@Meqanicull And how mediocre the new TRD Pro is you're not wrong considering the ATX 4 just GM's current quality control issues would make me worried about it.
@planoman0935
12 күн бұрын
@@fiftyshadesofurban and the markup...
There are 2.5 misses on this truck: Any vehicle with leather seats should automatically come with ventilated seats, especially at that price point. Those seats get icky in the summer There should be vents in the rear. It’s crazy to me that both the Bronco, and the Ranger don’t have air vents coming out the back of the console. I am giving half a point for the lockers being a part of the touchscreen, I would prefer a switch. Otherwise I think it’s a sweet truck, super capable! I can’t wait to see more content with it.
@theinternetisaseriesoftube5107
8 күн бұрын
Don't forget the strange gear selector.
@raesmart3305
6 күн бұрын
I agree on the rear vents and in Canada you need all seats heated.
@thedude9999
6 күн бұрын
Out of all of these I hate the lockers being on the touch screen the most
@daviddunlap5602
4 күн бұрын
I mean I don't sit in the back and the extra air power cooling in the front shpuld offset seats. Honestly I didn't even notice if my explorer seats really cool much sadly
@jamiebotha3216
2 күн бұрын
Agreed with the ventilated seats. Crazy thing is here in Thailand, You actually get rear vents. And some little other bits that you guys don't get. while being a few thousand dollars cheaper!
It is crazy to me that dealers still haven't learned their lesson yet. I just went to a Toyota dealer over the weekend and test drove a Tacoma. It was a SR5, with a cheap lift kit, and method wheels. They wanted over $56k for it. I just wish people weren't so dumb to fall for the mark up scams, it just fuels these dealers to keep doing this.
@thestrange_1
12 күн бұрын
Same reason we still have scammer calls, people still fall for them.
@coldwarkid6611
11 күн бұрын
And Banks are kicking themselves for loaning way over invoice on all these Covid vehicles they're getting back. Those big mark-ups are now turning into repos that are seriously under water. I was shocked when I found out Banks were dumb enough to make over value loans on a depreciating asset 🙄
@thenitelife1988
9 күн бұрын
Many people and banks will not lend you money on any thing over sticker price. Repos are up and cars are not selling like they use to
@danielrn133
4 күн бұрын
If you were selling your truck and one guy said he would give you 50K and another 60K who are you going to sell to? It is funny how people expect dealers to just "be nice" when no one else would. Dealers buy the cars from Ford and then they can do whatever the hell they want. If there are idiots who want to pay 10K over sticker well that's how it goes.
Significant call out on ranger bed compared to competitors is you can fit a sheet of plywood between the wheel wells like a full size. No other mid size can do that. I think that makes the ranger bed far better than competitors.
@1guyin10
11 күн бұрын
That was a key change on the new generation. They had to do quite a bit of redesign on the rear suspension to pull that off. If people actually do real work with the truck they are going to notice that change. 👍
@dusty0924
11 күн бұрын
Who can afford sheets of plywood after taking it in the rear by ford to own the ranger raptor 😂😂😂😂
@danaildanailov1250
11 күн бұрын
Honda Ridgeline can fit a sheet of plywood flat in the bed 😅
@greywolfgarage5630
10 күн бұрын
@@danaildanailov1250 you are 100% correct
@christopherwoodyatt38
8 күн бұрын
Have these guys done a review of the Honda hpd off roading?
Who could ever have believed there would be a Ford Ranger truck that would cost $57-60,000 plus 10-20k markup What a f'd up time to be alive.
@kenwolf2431
11 күн бұрын
I got mine for MSRP with no dealer adds.
@ej2863
10 күн бұрын
@@kenwolf2431 where?
@StripedTurkey
10 күн бұрын
You said it!
@79random
9 күн бұрын
Well, with housing being a million bucks, beer being $10+ for a pint it's really not hard to believe sadly
@dieselsvanlifeadventures5800
9 күн бұрын
where i work right now, we had a meeting not long ago, at the end, i noticed something on the bottom of the screen about company rebates, later i asked my manager about those rebates, not gonna mention the company name, nor will i mention witch of the 2 manufacturers we deal with because it's not 100% accurate, but asking several co-workers, we apparently get the vehicles at cost plus 2%, i've been told that when you give the rebate code, the salesman faces drop in disbelief prompting one of them to say "we don't even get that!", so i'm not too worried about dealer markups LOL, since then, it's been burning a hole in my pocket, more than likely i will buy in the fall, not sure what i'll get tho 😂😎
Tommy’s videos are always so thoughtful. The student has definitely become the master. Roman must be incredibly proud.
Man TFL has so many vehicles in their fleet that I forgot that they purchased this one. Great overview!
To see if the door closing problem is pressure, crack a window open and try again. If it closes more easily, it's pressure. If it doesn't, it's something else.
@jonesjones7057
12 күн бұрын
A little odd though, that YOU have to tell a guy that tests trucks for a living, to do that simple step to see if it's pressure or not. How does he not know this?
@Njrebel68
11 күн бұрын
Its not a pressure problem i have the fx4 xlt and its the same way its just a tight fit
@jeffk464
11 күн бұрын
It is, I tried it on my Ranger FX4.
@HarryKuloh
11 күн бұрын
@@jeffk464it is what? You are unclear. Explain.
@SeniorGrave
10 күн бұрын
Its something I'm getting use to on my 2024 Ranger FX4. Super solid closing doors is nothing to complain about. I hope it lasts for as long as I have it.
I want to see your testing of the 2.7 Ranger when it comes out soon. It will be less powerful than the Raptor, but that 2.7 receives universal praise in the F-150 platform. The 2.7 Ranger should be a good deal lighter than the Raptor. Maybe the 2.7 version is going to end up being the one to buy. Couple extra thousand pounds in towing capacity, a few thousand cheaper for a well-equipped example, most or all of the straight-line fun the Raptor offers... Should be interesting. I was interested to see the towing capacity of the 2.7 and 2.3 are the same. Wonder what the limiting component/system is.
@jbrou123
6 күн бұрын
When setting towing limits, you also have to consider stopping limits. Plus, they also take in Gross Vehicle Weight, the 2.7 is a little heavier, so towing is lowered. But still, for an additional $2195, the V6 is very attractive on the Ranger.
I agree, this compared to the new TRD pro I’d get this. More bang for your buck
@desertflatties
12 күн бұрын
Plus, I'd be more concerned about long-term reliability on the Toyota. Yes, Toyota has a better overall reputation than Ford, but this truck has a proven engine and transmission that have been around a while and are still doing reasonably well. We don't know much about the new Toyota engine yet - but new engines, even from Toyota, tend to have issues for the first few years. Plus in addition to the Engine, Transmission and Turbo in the Ford, the Toyota also has a hybrid battery and motor that all need to function. That's a lot of components, any of which a failure could make a very bad or very expensive day.
@MickMars01
12 күн бұрын
@@desertflattiesand no leg room in rear seats 😢
@driftx2
10 күн бұрын
@@desertflattiesFord 10 speed is reliable? Thats news to me
When are we going to see the top dogs go at it, the ZR2 vs the Ranger Raptor? We can even throw the TRD in for comedic relief
That towing connection is gonna keep getting bashed up. Why would they place it there? Stupid as f
@SeniorGrave
10 күн бұрын
The full size Raptor spare takes up the space where on the regular Rangers with smaller spares the trailer hook ups are up next to the license plate. Still better than hauling a spare in the bed.
You drove a Jeep for years you should be a professional door slammer
Tommy, When will we get the Mid size offroad comparison we have been dreaming of?
@rodgood
12 күн бұрын
They also said there was a vid coming on what actually broke on the Tacoma . did i miss that too?
@Jackalhit
11 күн бұрын
@@rodgoodyes, was a part inside the diff as I recall. It was in a video shortly after it broke (maybe a week or two later, can’t look it up right now).
Canyon/Colorado have rear AC vents
@skyoung419z
12 күн бұрын
I sit in the front seat. Don’t care.
@marklihsu
12 күн бұрын
True one of the few misses of this truck. Although the cabin is small enough just point the vents up and blast.
@desertflatties
12 күн бұрын
Gladiator also has rear vents. Tacoma does not.
The word is "damping" not "dampening" .. the latter word is when you are making things moist, the former means "abating oscillation"
@gravitygabri3l
11 күн бұрын
I am dampening my girlfriend after dinner.
@DC-rl4rp
10 күн бұрын
@@gravitygabri3l😂
@DC-rl4rp
10 күн бұрын
I hate word Nazi types…yet in this case…I admit you are correct 🤷♂️🤪
Nice video. Good info. Well presented. Thanks!
Those KO3 tires worked awesome on hell's revenge with my ranger raptor. Cameras and crawl control were very useful
You drop a tune with minor upgrades . That truck is going be 500-600 to the wheels easy . That 3.0 from ford is a monster after a tune
The Ranger Raptor does seem like a great truck...Pricing has gone through the roof for these specialty trucks. Greedy dealers and impatient buyers are making things even worse.
Idk about you but I TYPICALLY COMMIT to CLOSING my DOORS
@christopherwoodyatt38
8 күн бұрын
I have a 2020 custom trail boss and a small breeze can shut my doors. I drive a 2018 Ford F150 at my work and I hate that truck because I literally do have to slam the door to the truck Every time to get it to shut. Whereas in the Chevy it practically shuts itself. And it gets quite tiring after a 10 hour shift I get In-N-Out of the truck at least 20 times a day. It just gets so tiring having To Do all of that. I don't like that design.
7:41 designers and engineers really need to go back to square one and stop it with these unintuitive shifters you can't use by feel; this is a serious safety issue. With so many the functions in touchscreens and capacitive touch buttons along with these gimmicky shifters, using a car has become a lot more dangerous and the designers and engineers of these things should be ashamed.
I was lucky to work with a local dealership to secure one of these trucks at MSRP to be built in july. Its shelter green too, the color i wanted, super pumped.
I love the idea of a midsize truck to replace my full size. But, I carry passengers a lot when I go off road to camp, fish, etc. punishing them in the back seat for hours seems too cruel.
Yes, I feel like everyone who bought the new Ranger, Tacoma, Colorado regrets it. Way too much money for a midsize pickup truck. Not one is worth the price
Ahhh the forgotten Ranger Raptor lol. I waited for 364 days after ordering one, and on the 365th I cancelled my order and bought a 24 F150 Raptor base in Shelter Green instead. I got it at MSRP vs the markup I would have paid for the Ranger, and am glad I went with another F150. Funny thing they still haven't take delivery of the one I ordered May 30 2023 lol.
In Australia my Ranger Raptor has handles on every piller (front and rear , passenger and drivers side ) for getting in and cup holders under the vents that pop out when you need them, no screen lag, its a flawless ute
@AdamAus85
4 күн бұрын
I see plenty of them up here in south east Queensland while I'm getting around in my company car, a 24 Ranger. Even with the 2.0L, it's a nice driveline with the 10 speeds. Adaptive cruise works so much better in it over the 21 Hilux I had before this.
I know the 2.3 Ecoboost doesn't wow people anymore but the power train is a decade old. You won't have any issues with it
@cageordie
12 күн бұрын
Funny because Ford is top for recalls and their small Ecoboost engines are all being recalled due to disintegrating wet belts blocking the oil system way before their change interval. Ford has the most mechanical recalls. Though Toyota is trying hard with their twin turbo v6 and the machining swarf left in the engines.
@matthewthompson4739
12 күн бұрын
@@cageordie I'm talking about this specific power train, not Ford as a company. I'm not sure where the confusion is coming from based on my comment
@Ruprecttt
12 күн бұрын
@@matthewthompson4739 it's not you. It's the contrarians on KZread.
@ALMX5DP
12 күн бұрын
@@cageordieFord has quite a few small Ecoboost mills, and they can be quite different in design and architecture despite having a common name. Which EB specifically are you referring to and does it relate to an engine available in the Ranger?
@dawsonsschittcreek5395
12 күн бұрын
@@ALMX5DPno it doesn't relate to the Ranger engine at all. Guy is just copying and pasting something he read on Reddit to try to sound smart.
This truck is a great value IF you can find one that isn’t marked up.
@thomas735
12 күн бұрын
Problem is you can buy a nice f150 for the same price
@kidamere2408
12 күн бұрын
Value ha uhh no
@ALMX5DP
12 күн бұрын
@@thomas735the highest trim of near any pickup will overlap with a low or mid spec bigger model. But at the end of the day their purpose are distinctly different so just depends on your want or need.
@thomas735
12 күн бұрын
@@ALMX5DP true, but I’m saying you can get a nice f150 for more or less the same. Not just some stripped down model.
@ALMX5DP
12 күн бұрын
@@thomas735 You can also get a nice Ranger for even less, but of course this is their top offroad trim with a bunch of goodies and features that those others dont get.
My personal experience with BFG KO2's is I put 80K miles on mine on a Nissan Xterra.
@cageordie
12 күн бұрын
K02s were my favorite. Last time I swapped, last week, they were only available seriously overpriced so I have Falken Wildpeak AT4W and to be honest they don't seem quieter or better handling. I guess K02s are becoming hard to find with K03s round the corner (August release in the size I needed).
@rlaracue
12 күн бұрын
@@cageordie So do you like or dislike the AT4Ws?
@Amarilloslim-
12 күн бұрын
@@cageordie KO2's came stock on ours in Australia! I love them.
Great video Tommy 💯
What a great review. Well done
Hate the electronic e brake thats a deal breaker for me....
$58k is highly aspirational. Haven’t seen one less than $65k. Plus tax and other dealer nonsense and this $45k truck is over $70k.
@kidamere2408
12 күн бұрын
Seen a few at msrp but at msrp as you said is still highly overpriced
@propertypreparedness6846
12 күн бұрын
You won’t see those prices again. Manufacturers will cut production to keep up demand if necessary. The parts and raw resources are global, dollar isent demanded like it was. Inflation will continue, trick is making north of 130k, not waiting for prices to come down. We are no longer the top dogs we were.
@cody8926
12 күн бұрын
I got mine for msrp but had to order it
@firebry23
12 күн бұрын
I paid sticker. I also ordered it last July. I got offer 10k over in the dealership parking lot. I wasn't interested. I waited a year gotta do better then that.
@matthewschiebout7384
12 күн бұрын
in 2017 the F150 Raptor base price was around $47k...
I thought I was the only one that thought that about the door closing. Nice video you really went into depth on things that alot of others haven’t covered !!
@AdamAus85
4 күн бұрын
I went for a 21 Toyota Hilux to a 24 Ranger and the door close is the first thing I noticed. I'm used to it now, but the Hilux was a better feeling and sound when you closed.
$10,000 mark up for the Raptor where I live in eastern Washington State 😮
@DH-mf2lv
12 күн бұрын
That’s the “left” coast for you.
I want to see the off road comparison between the Ranger Raptor, ZR2 and TRD Pro.
The problem isn’t the dealers it’s the people paying over msrp for them, if people would put their foot down and say no to the dealers wanting over msrp the dealers would lower the price
@is6566
12 күн бұрын
Totally agree. Same concept for food, gas, houses, etc. we should stop eating, filling up the tank and living in buildings and the price of all of those will eventually come down. 😃
@cageordie
12 күн бұрын
It's the dealers too. Not just the dealer markup, all the bullshit charges they claim are required but are actually just ways of taking money without giving you anything. They will say they are government charges, but they aren't, they are just profit. Watch Car Edge, on one recently they had a dealer at something like $20k in bullshit charges.
@danielrn133
12 күн бұрын
Not their problem either. If you were selling your truck and one person offers 5K more than someone else who are you going to sell to? Not societies job to make crap cheap for you.
@WilliamsonRidge
12 күн бұрын
@@is6566 Lol want and a need or two completely different things
@TigerWon
12 күн бұрын
I mean whos buying vehicles right now anyways. So overpriced even at msrp.
I like my old time column mounted shifter on my 23 F150, my 2nd 2.7 Ecoboost yanks the truck around effortlessly, hitch up a 5,000 pound camper no problem, but oil changes oil changes oil changes, havent had the first problem out of either truck, but every 5k change that oil!!! I keep a milk crate in the back to get in the bed and out, short legs so I’m geared low, who ever thought of that parking brake setting it’s self need to be drown in lake Michigan! Tommy the truck is beautiful!
id really like you guys to drive the truck like a normal person, faster then 10 mph
@is6566
12 күн бұрын
I guarantee you in some places the 10 mph feels as dangerous as 130 mph on a highway. But I agree with you.
I remember back when MSRP was what the suckers paid. Now you're getting a "deal" if you can get out the door paying MSRP. Sometimes change is good, this is not an example of that. 😑
@jbrou123
6 күн бұрын
I want a new truck, but don't need it. No deal if the dealer won't knock off $2-3k from MSRP.
The door thing has been proven to be due to the great weather seal in that cab. Maybe they could modify software to force the driver's window to crack when you open the door and close right after you close it, like Mini coopers.
I have the same issue with the doors. You really have to slam them. Agree!
6:13 This is true with the Maverick also. It's been "harder" to close than the 17' Focus I traded in. I've heard it's because of the weather stripping and it requires more force to latch all the way. The door closing sound is actually engineered and IMO, it sounds good compared to other brands.
“It’s hard to say no at this price” There’s a market adjustment, No!
@jbrou123
6 күн бұрын
I would just get the FX4 with the 2.7 and save $14k.
Sold in Asia as well. The current gen Raptor for example is sold in the Philippines for just $45,000 USD. However, it's with a diesel engine only, for now at least, the Ecoboost isn't available. Well, at least it has rear A/C vents unlike the US spec Raptors.
Electric parking brakes are stupid
@bigstone75
12 күн бұрын
You still want a hand brake?
@aussie2uGA
12 күн бұрын
@@bigstone75Absolutely. A hand brake can be used when parked and while in motion.
@The0nlyj4x
12 күн бұрын
Reason why?
@fiftyshadesofurban
12 күн бұрын
@@aussie2uGA I don't really see why.. It doesn't make sense to me why you even need a parking break on an automatic car. When you have it in park it's in park it's not going anywhere.
@Valco458
12 күн бұрын
When a vehicle transmission is in park. It’s only held in place by a small metal pawl inside the transmission. It’s much safer to engage a parking brake & once set, you put the selector into park. This will take the load off of the transmission & onto the parking brake..
I ordered mine back in October 2023.. due to be at the dealership shortly. Dealer isn’t charging over msrp
Oh yeah, now our trucks have that boy-racer exhaust note! The exhaust volume levels in virtually all performance vehicles are getting louder & louder every year. The laws for decibel levels are antiquated & need to restrain the legions racing around at night. The butterfly valve factory "cheats" that open up once a specific RPM is attained makes for ungodly rackets for hours at night....these owners disable these butterflys, or keep the revs above the tach breakpoint... listening to a C4 Corvette vs. a C8 Corvette is like night & day.
I hate the digital controls for the lockers! Put them on up fitter switches Ford! And get rid of the Etch A Sketch pad!
Well If It Isn’t Tommy Showing Off Great Content Once Again!!!
I'd like to see one of those talking comparisons between this and the cybertruck, including which is getting you more views and which was the better buy for you guys.
The only thing I want changed in the ranger and Colorado, extended cab and 6 foot bed. I don't want a mid size for the rear seats, I want small capable truck....
@tipsovr2626
12 күн бұрын
Exactly! This truck is pretty much useless for any type of utility needs. I bet you couldn't get two full sized trash cans next to each other in the back of the thing. I love the looks of the Ranger but with that silly little bed, it is nothing more than a toy really.
@Meqanicull
12 күн бұрын
@@tipsovr2626Most people Looking to fulfill some utility needs aren’t usually looking at the Ranger Raptor and unless you are doing constant job site stuff the bed is more than enough. I have 2018 Colorado Zr2 with the 5ft 2inch bed and I’ve never had an issue using it for utility it’s hauled 30+ bricks and nearly 6 foot entertainment unit and it fit easily and I was able to close the tailgate about halfway using the dampers that hold the tailgate to the bed. Unless you hauling some majorly heavy loads for your job (which at that point you shouldn’t even be looking at midsize) than I don’t fully understand your complaint, even if there was an extended cab 6ft bed it wouldn’t have much of any increase in payload or towing only difference is a foot larger bed.
@tipsovr2626
12 күн бұрын
@@Meqanicull I'll agree that the Raptor version isn't going to be used as a utility vehicle. It is purely an expensive toy. That said, the Ranger would be much more appealing to me if I could get the four door with a six foot bed. I do a lot of camping and outdoor activities. Having the extra foot in bed length makes a big difference. Not having the option to get that makes the Ranger much less appealing to me.
@BrandonMeyer1641
12 күн бұрын
@@tipsovr2626 there is nobody in the off road midsize segment with a 6 foot bed. You either have to go midsize base spec or go full size. Given the option I’d take a full size every day.
@J.Young808
11 күн бұрын
I like the look and utility of my Tacoma Access Cab, it’s a swollen version of my Dad’s 1995.5 Tacoma Xtra Cab. I would much prefer his ‘95 as it is more compact and much less tech and more simple. 1995 was a 4x4 V6 5-spd manual with manual windows and locks, mine is a 2023 TRD Off Road automatic, both black. I bought mine Jan 27, 2024 as one of the last ACLB trucks on O’ahu, I really wanted a 4-cylinder SR/SR5 4x4.
Love The RR but nearly impossible to find at Sticker
You can get these at MSRP and its not hard I found 4 besides the one I bought at MSRP in my area.
Crack the window open if you want the door to shut easier.
A ranger with 400hp is perfect lol
Im genuinely interested in this little truck, i appreciate yall buying it, its barley made it into my feed for some reason tho
@TFL awesome videos like always, one note tho, I've noticed over the last past week your videos sound is very low, could you please check that? even on this video I am blasting my MBP volume yet I can barely hear what Tommy was saying!
This is a fantastic truck for what it is. Glad to see this updated design. That much power in a midsize truck is mid blowing. I had a 2003 and 2004 Ranger FX3 Level 2s when those were the tip dog models and the 4.0 V6 of of the time were only 210hp and the gas mileage sucked. Anything over MSRP is dealer robbery IMHO and just another reason to argue why the dealership model is in a serious need of an overhaul. I would much rather plan accordingly and order straight from Ford if that was an option and pay MSRP than get one from a dealer just cause they had one and were just 10-20k more because of that.
i don't know if toyota has the new tacoma TRD pro on the press fleet yet but it would be awesome if you guys get to put together the high performance mid size truck head to head testing that andrey wanted to do.
A great review Tommy. I'm just astounded that this vehicle is lacking a driver's side A-Pillar Grab Handle to match the front passenger [like other jurisdictions that Ford sells in]. Yes, I realize the other mid-size trucks are no different. But, at least they spent the money on a Sketch-Pad?? Anyway, it is an amazing truck. Many Thanks, Graham.
need ranger raptor and chevy colorado zr2 bison head-to-head comparison, especially since almost same price.
I would rather the locker be on the touch screen than the headlight controls.
Are all the variations of Ford's Ranger model fitted with a CVT gearbox or a properly geared automatic gearbox? This is a sublime review and an excellent channel; it is very interesting and varied👍😎.
You cannot be afraid of commitment when you own the Ranger Raptor. Commit to shutting the door. Commit to finding reverse. And probably commit to a pretty big truck payment especially when the dealers put big mark ups on them.
Coming to the Midwest near Cincinnati Ohio you can find Ranger Raptors for sticker on under sticker for the unpopular colors. There are still a few dealers that want over sticker but not a lot.
@rickreese5794
12 күн бұрын
What’s the price ?😊
@busslayer4790
12 күн бұрын
I see RRs listed online for MSRP. I do wonder though if when you show up in person, they tell you something different - "it is MSRP, we just charge a $10k document fee that isn't listed on the website."
In Australia you can get a v6 turbo diesel or a 4 cylinder twin turbo diesel in the Rangers and then the Raptor with the petrol/ gas motor.
@LucasLeCompteMusic
12 күн бұрын
Yeah the EPA makes sure the US gets none of the cool diesels the rest of the world gets because of "ma Pollution"
@ALMX5DP
12 күн бұрын
@@LucasLeCompteMusic I’m sure those in such markets also lament not getting a 400hp engine. The grass is always greener as they say.
@max_archer
12 күн бұрын
@@ALMX5DP afaik they DO get the 400hp engine in this Raptor, it's the 2.3 and 2.7 Ecoboosts from the normal Ranger that aren't available
@ALMX5DP
12 күн бұрын
@@max_archer I'm not sure but my response was just to the comment about not getting the diesels like what was/is available on the Raptor in other countries. I do know that European Ranger Raptors are detuned to 288bhp as well, so they do not get the full 400 like we do due to emissions which again speaks to the commenter's complaint about pollution.
@J.Young808
11 күн бұрын
You Aussies are lucky to get diesels, I’m most jealous of the Land Cruiser 79 series.
Meanwhile, 2024 F150 Tremor comes stock with 5.0L V8, 36G fuel tank, better tow rating and payload, roomier back seat, 2K watt on board power, etc., and can be found at dealers at a hefty discount, putting it well under the Ranger Raptor price wise. Seems like an obvious choice.
Definitely the best in its class, discounting the markup. It's a relative bargain even WITH the markup. If it's the same price as the TRD Pro, it's still a better value. Personally I would not pay markup for one, I just wait a year or two till the hype dies down, but remember a year or two ago people were paying 10 or 15K over sticker for a TRD Pro Tacos and 4Runners that weren't even new.
On the tires owning one myself , I'll say the KO3s have better wet concrete performance vs the KO2s I had on a Ram Rebel, not AMAZING but noticeably better
That screen is so laggy it’s unacceptable, I couldn’t live with that.
$68k at dealers here in the Northeast
Tommy you've gotten so good at these reviews I almost don't miss your dad....
Imagine if that had a coyote lol
“Modes”! Don’t get me started on phucking “modes”! After 18 months I ❤ my Ute but “modes” are an illness infecting all new 4x4s. The RRaptor has low range and proper dif locks. Proper proactive traction. Use them and be very happy.
I was able to secure a factory order for under 65k in California (I find it hard to believe myself). But what is really CRAZY to me is that even after the RR’s dealership markup. It is still CHEAPER than the 2024 off-road tacoma hybrid trim by like 3-5k!. I called pretty much every dealership in southern California and could not find a tacoma off-road trim or higher trim under the RR’s price. I’m a toyota fanboy but I’m choosing the RR. Everything has dealership mark ups, its just crazy to me!
@marklihsu
12 күн бұрын
Yup that's how overpriced and under specced the taco is. Worst value in the segment
@ragnarok400
12 күн бұрын
Did you try longo? They sell all their cars at msrp.
@planoman0935
12 күн бұрын
you can in Dallas. Have a buddy who just secured an order for a Tacoma off road hybrid with premium package for 57K or as he says $56,600 🤣
@healer81
11 күн бұрын
Your fault for over paying. It's people like you that allows dealers to be greedy.
@Doughnutscream
11 күн бұрын
@@healer81 I didn’t pay anything yet, the truck still has to be delivered first lol
Tommy my boy!
I too prefer column mounted shift paddles as well.
The Ranger NEEDS a 4 inch lift so it can fit the 37 inch Goodyear Duratracs, Nitto Grapplers or even Mickey Thompson tires with a wider and much MEATIER M/T rock, mud, snow and ice tread! That makes it the PERFECT trail runner that surpasses any Jeep Rubicon or Ford Bronco Sasquatch Edition! That's what one of my Kelowna Mechanic buddies did with his 2024 Ranger Raptor! He got the 4 inch lift and Nitto Grappler 37's on it and it is a DREAM to drive on our Still-Lotsa-Snow-in-June local Western Canada mountain roads! No issue with grip anymore and it still drives on the local highways and city streets just fine! V
The engine in the Ranger Raptor is not unique to the Ranger Raptor. It is the Explorer ST engine. Great engine and with a tune gains so much!
I wonder if the quality on a dealer sprayed bedliner is any better than aftermarket like they've done here. It's so thin you can see paint around the outlet housing at 11:45, and under the bed rails I can still see paint as well.
Buying over sticker prices is stupid. Just buy used at that point
I'm looking at getting one from my special build and interested in some after-market parts.....Maybe something that can redirect the trailer connector like it is on a normal Ranger.
I love the new Ranger Raptor and could have been convinced to buy one, but when I came in with my cash everyone wants $10,000 more than sticker. F' that. I will NEVER pay over MSRP for a car. Went down to GMC and snagged a fully loaded Canyon AT4 for $15K less and am in love. It pulls for days and has taken me up and over every challenge I've thrown at it like it's sleepwalking. Ford has a great truck here, but for the money? It's a rip off.
@kenwolf2431
11 күн бұрын
I can line you up with a MSRP Raptor thats being built in and around AUG 19 and no dealer adds.
@GRAFHC
11 күн бұрын
@@kenwolf2431 I appreciate that. And I'd take you up on it, but I bought a Canyon AT4 instead and love everything about it. But again, I appreciate you reaching out!
@bjornegan6421
10 күн бұрын
@@kenwolf2431 why are you backing out
Orange interior accent should be optional. Not standard
While the Ranger is VERY impressive, I am quite happy for saving $15k with my ZR2! The powertrain though ... love the Ranger Raptor's powertrain.
It looks like a great truck
At MSRP this is the best mid-size. (At MSRP is key)
We have a regular 2018 v8 f150 w/ offroad package and its got plenty of power and acceleration, i cant imagine what it would be like to strap twin turbos on it seems like that would be several times over on the over kill, with all the bumps and uneven ground no way your going anywhere over 20 while offroading at least where im at.
Sheldon eii, my wife, said you should put the scarf back on. 😂😂
Markup in Albuquerque…$30K
@rickreese5794
12 күн бұрын
Land of Entrapment 🤮🤡🌎🌈
@jeffk464
11 күн бұрын
ouch
I have the Australian version of this Ranger Raptor and was surprised to see the American version without rear A/C vents. I wonder why they got rid of them for the US.
This is the best truck for non contractors. Full stop.
those tires suck in the mud here in arizona we get slimy mud and they just become slick and the nubs don't get ride of the mud.
Id forego those tiny rear seats for a King Cab.. be sick
I had a 3 ltr v6 in a ford van, and had great 200,000 + miles on it. I like the ranger, but would like crew cab and a longer bed... It seems like the only way to get that longer bed is Taco? Given the problems with new engines for toyota lately, I will wait another year before looking for our next vehicle.