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@RWin-fp5jn

8 ай бұрын

Let us put that question differently: Sir Roger Penrose is adement that we need to substitute Planck (E=hf) into E=mc2 to come to the TRUE equivalence of Mass equaling inverse time, not energy. In Penrose’ words: if you have time , you have a CLOCK in the QP world. And as a direct result so must energy be equal to inverse SPACE, i.e. the grid in the QP world. Which of course is what is displayed in the double slit experiment. So then, Herr Einstein wasnt 100% wrong, he just didnt see the actual equivalences relations , where as Penrose did. Unless our so-called top physicists come clean on admitting they are wrong to stick to Einsteins flawed interpretation of E=mc2, we will never progress. Many who know better, many want to keep this status quo…..

Eric's point is that if you want the NEXT Einstein, you gotta break free! Imagine if Albert had only held to Newton?

@Elhardt

8 ай бұрын

"Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world.” -Einstein

@It__From__Bit

8 ай бұрын

Or Max Planck held to Einstein.

@RWin-fp5jn

8 ай бұрын

Exactly. Newton was unsurpassed. Einstein merely discovered and explained Newtonian physics wasnt 100% correct at relativistic speeds. Now we must do the same. We need to recognise Einstein isnt 100% correct. His theory of special realitivity has correct correlation between space and time, but not correct causation, missing the fact SR needs to be augmented with the axes of energy and mass. How? Well, If you speed, you contract frontal spacetime but you GAIN energy (inverse space) and mass (inverse time). The simplest balance possible , yet we are conditioned not to question Albert and thus doomed ourselves in 100 years of stagnation and failing to see what causes gravity. So simple. Time to wake up…

@zeven341

7 ай бұрын

Weinstein is a romantic at best and a charlatan at worst. You may well think outside the box, but 1) all kinds of scientists do and 2) theories are not accepted (Einsteins also were not) for many years till proven by empirical science and observations and corroborating data.

@brendawilliams8062

7 ай бұрын

My point is that if you give up Einsteinium then you give up Sir Penrose. You just ditched Planch with him. So it’s a ridiculous idea

Unwritten rule of journalism: If the headline is a question, the answer is no.

@GeorgeSmiley77

8 ай бұрын

...but you just wrote it down! Btw it's called Betteridge's Law of Headlines.

@_uncredited

8 ай бұрын

@@GeorgeSmiley77 I didn't know that's what it was called, thank you!

@MattHudsonAtx

8 ай бұрын

The kids call it clickbait

@eyzinn91

8 ай бұрын

@@GeorgeSmiley77 The difference is that the answer can be "no", not that it definitely is "no".

@GeorgeSmiley77

8 ай бұрын

@@eyzinn91 I'm just naming the law. IDK what "difference" you're referring to.

Einsteins work is valuable as is Newtons. We do need to break out of Einsteins paradigm, and be serious about it. I imagine Einstein would be the first to agree.

@viktorbaraga4514

8 ай бұрын

Perhaps I'm not allowing myself to be more open but; is there anything we are using in real life today , which exist courtesy of Einsteins theories? I don’t know of any.

@jacobshirley3457

8 ай бұрын

​@@viktorbaraga4514 GPS satellites have to account for their different experiences of time, so maybe? Although, if we didn't know about General Relativity, engineers would simply routinely fix the "error." I can't think of anything that wouldn't exist without Einstein's relativities, that average people personally use. But our world would be unrecognizable without him, I'll say that.

@nelson_rebel3907

8 ай бұрын

@@viktorbaraga4514 Ultimately gravity itself and what it actually is to form our calculations is a worthwhile endeavor to study. We dont actually understand the mechanism that triggers gravities effects. And if we do that would shift the entire understanding of general relativity and quantum mechanics.

@berniv7375

8 ай бұрын

Maxwell's work is under rated.

@coreyleander7911

3 ай бұрын

Oh you're so right physicists have for a century now just completely ignored the possibility that Einstein's GR is wrong or only a limit. Theoreticians have spent a 100 years doing nothing but particle physics! /s

After all, it was Einstein who said "Imagination is more important than knowledge."

@antonioveritas

8 ай бұрын

Or did you just imagine that he said that? 😁

@brendawilliams8062

7 ай бұрын

If you are willing to give up Penrose with him. I’m not

@StephenCoorlas

7 ай бұрын

Exactly

Eric is at the height of his game here.

@wolwerine777

8 ай бұрын

And he is completely right. All the big discoveries was made because people was thinking outside of the box.

@coreyleander7911

3 ай бұрын

lol why do you think so?

Love George Ellis 🇿🇦

I think Eric is in the right century, in 3D mapping a new way was found 4 months ago called Gaussian Scatter using A.I a week ago it’s up to Gaussian Scatter 2.0. The adaptive value of breaking current understandings in order to pursue new ones is obvious.

@feynmanschwingere_mc2270

7 ай бұрын

Nope. It was Einstein that first predicted entanglement in 1932 while it was staring Dirac, Heisenberg, Pauli, Von Neumann, Bohr, etc right in the face but it was Einstein established entanglement as THE property of QM that really made it so different than classical mechanics (and showed it was a function of the measurement problem). Any "break" from our current understanding has to also account for EVERYTHING we knew before. Newtonian mechanics is just a lower boundary limit of GR, and maxwells work is also embedded in GR, we can even (sort of) include quantum mechanics in GR in terms of shifting the cosmological constant to the energy-momentum tensor side of the equation so that vacuum energy represents quantum effects (e.g. virtual particles), although there are clear contradictions and tensions elsewhere when trying to combine the two.

The diagrams I have seen of a worm hole display a 2 d grid...and it would seem reasonable however how can you get a worm hole using a 3 d grid?

too bad we couldn't watch the whole thing here.

The question is valid: proof Einstein wrong. He would be very proud.

@MattHudsonAtx

8 ай бұрын

But actually prove him wrong, don't just make tiktoks about it.

@kevinmcfarlane2752

8 ай бұрын

They periodically try to do more accurate tests to see whether he’s wrong. But so far, nothing gives. Ditto quantum mechanics.

0:15 355/113 is very noteworthy fraction that gets REALLY WEIRDLY close to pi

Well since we're talking about this, how about we look at the flawed determinant of the metric tensor in GR. The determinant of a square matrix can be described in terms of its trace powers alone. Trace powers are found be taking the kth power of a matrix and finding its trace. In differential geometry, the concepts of both finding the kth power of a tensor and finding its trace only make sense for rank-2 mixed index tensors. The metric tensor is covariant though, and finding its determinant is a nonsense operation in GR which is fundamentally inconsistent with the rest of the theory. Either it must have no impact, or GR has a serious flaw. Maybe this is where we should look for the flaw in this potentially effective theory.

@jamespaff4741

7 ай бұрын

Any good videos or literature in this topic?

@PerpetualScience

7 ай бұрын

@@jamespaff4741 None that I could find. _Nobody_ talks about this.

The general theory of relativity is a great mathematical model that describes the mechanics of the universe up to a certain degree I think it is pretty close to perfect but in the very long interstellar distances it is not enough to describe gravity

@jewulo

8 ай бұрын

What do you mean by "long interstellar distances"? Does GR not explain the following? 1. Why the satellites orbit the Earth? 2. Why the Moon orbits the Earth? 3. Why the Earth orbits the Sun? 4. Why the orbit of Mercury fluctuates? 5. Why the Sun orbits the black hole (Sagittarius A* ) at the centre of our Milky Way Galaxy? Which one of this does GR not explain?

@jacobshirley3457

8 ай бұрын

@@jewulo I don't think those count as "very long interstellar distances," to be fair. For humans, yes. For astronomers, that's a speck.

@MrBiosk

8 ай бұрын

​@@jewuloIf the word "interestellar" is used, I think that the only thing that applies to, is point 5. In that case, I think that GR does not explain very good the motion of stars around the center of the galaxy. Thats one of the reasons, dark matter comes in.

@Philover

8 ай бұрын

Exactly and just because something is too far away from our planet this doesn't make it less interesting for us to observe.

@feynmanschwingere_mc2270

7 ай бұрын

"but in the very long interstellar distances it is not enough to describe gravity" This is WRONG. What you should be saying is that GR requires Dark Matter to explain interstellar gravitational effects, but we now know that dark matter exists with or without GR and GR, unwittingly, helps us account for Dark Matter AND Dark Energy (in terms of the additive effects of each, the latter being represented by Einstein's Cosmological constant Lamba, which we believe to be correct). PLEASE read more actual physics and don't fall for sound bites from science popularizers who may try to over-simplify things. The ONLY real terrain, macroscopically, where GR breaks down are at two points: before the big bang and beyond the singularity of a black hole (which GR PREDICTED btw). That's it. Nonsense.

I've always imagined wormholes and quantum entanglement behaving similarly to magnetic flux but in reality they're most likely entirely different physical phenomena

Einstein is absolutely right. What we need is a way to explain quantum dynamics. There is something missing in the theory and it could be as simple as gravitational waves making everything look weird. Or Axions making particles go through walls

@blijebij

8 ай бұрын

Yes, it seems we need a complementing part on Einsteins perspective, not a replacement.

@yds6844

8 ай бұрын

I submitted my paper a week ago and it also includes a method for explaining quantum mechanics. It's clumsy, but I personally hope it succeeds. I hope this doesn't end up being just my own nonsense.

@ghevisartor6005

7 ай бұрын

@@yds6844 so how did it goes

Very droll. Like the entertaining aspect of the argument, specifically the way it is edited. Good thing too that is was short ; )

Personally, I will not submit to IAI's "Paywall". Tough break for science education.

@1:12 the guy sitting second counted from right actually has his own youtube channel, forgot the name though... PBS something.

wow i enjoyed waiting a full day to watch the premier of a six minute clip. at least give us a full 10. you think you'll lose money of you do? you will not lol

Brian Greene and Sean Carroll *right now* 🙄

Sooo excited!!

a lot of loose talk on this forum

This is exactly how I feel about modern music

Worth looking at the work of Stephen Crothers on General Relativity and Black Holes.

All we need to explore the infinite is reletavistic and subjective control of time which Einstein, neuroscience and computation provide. That said I want warp drives and ansibles too.

Oodles of fun!

When we figure out why time is a one-way arrow maybe we can figure out how to to back in time

Nature loves courage!

Absolutely correct, you must let people be free and have the liberty to discuss ideas, ultra conservative stifflment of discussion leads to no where but to failure. If you don't have the option to be wrong you will never be right. The current climate is not one of adventurous scientific exploration but one of fear of the same as a DISRUPTIVE threat leading to protectionist policies meant to prop up the master edifice of a failing status quo at the expense of science. The analogy to the economy is precious because the economy has so little equity, it can be irrational because we prop it up no matter how irrational the economic behavior, right, the economy provides free profits for nothing, but nature can not behave like that, the point refutes itself perfectly, the economy is a horrible example of causality but they whom got a free ride up to the top of the economic ladder would prefer that the public imagine it is a rational entity. In reality emotion rules the economy, not reason. We live in a world dominated by the irrational fantasies of billionaires who's nations go to war with one another, the economy is an artifact of human passion. In similar fashion much of physics has also become an artifact of human passion dominated by the often quite irrational claims of the famous star players publishers have singled out for special attention. There is a reason fundamental advance is almost never achieved by a collective but nearly always by rouge individuals, collectives become conservative and narrow minded over time.

George Elllis' comments are insightful, as are Eric's - I suggest one listen to Edward Teller's video "Edward Teller - Going to see Einstein' lecture" ... and take Teller's insight about Einstein to heart; and then also apply Teller's theme also to George Ellis, Kip Thorne, at. al. as Eric appears to do in this video (Eric is a refreshing variation from 'conventional wisdom') ... but 'conventional wisdom' is NEEDED as an appropriate 'benchmark' ...Particularly for those saddled with teaching the next generation...

Eric criticizes everybody in general terms but doesn't really propose specific plans to replace any of the established ideas he criticizes.

It seems so obvious, yet most people are so conditioned that they cannot imagine outside the sphere of existing possibilities.

I have read a bit about the General Theory (GT) and to be honest it is more than a bit deep for me. (incomprehensible jargon makes things difficult). BUT I think it is really a mathematically based essay rather than a mathematically based truth. For example the Chistoffal symbols are deduced in order to explain the motion of a body through space or space time. As far as I know they never have a value but occur in the Tensors on the LHS of the GT equation while the RHS side claims that energy is the cause. It's like saying time can run backwards or space itself can be manipulated in shape. The Joker says such is basically rubbish!

So one of the variables, "c", in this equation is representing a constant value for the speed limit of light? Does anyone else hear the immediate conflict in terms and definitions here? A variable can not by definition be a constant. I think Einstein was trying to find fellow geniuses, but not the kind everyone thinks of normally.

@voidagent

8 ай бұрын

Before Einstein, the symbol for the speed of light was v. Einstein changed it to c, for "constant". Einstein did not write E=mc^2, it was a reporter that did that. Isn't c^2 > than c?

“There is nothing new to be discovered in physics now. All that remains is more and more precise measurement.”

@feynmanschwingere_mc2270

7 ай бұрын

Okay Lord Kelvin. Ironic because a few years later Einstein would revolutionize science not once, not twice, not three times, not four times, but at least 5 times: Light Quanta Wave-Particle Duality Special Relativity General Relativity Inventing condensed matter physics Predicting the Boson and the fifth state of matter Yeah not too shabby. And im skipping a few lol.

@Greg042869

7 ай бұрын

@@feynmanschwingere_mc2270 At least you spotted the irony.

Eric is great 🙏

This is Eric at his best, and George handled it wonderfully...... all around a great panel.

It's amusing how many times in my lifetime people have announced that they have disproven Einstein!... and wonderfully hilarious how many times they have admitted Einstein was right after all!

@everythingisalllies2141

8 ай бұрын

You ignore the people that PROVE that Einstein is wrong, and do not later change their mind. And I bet you have no idea why they make this claim.

@Gruuvin1

8 ай бұрын

​​@@everythingisalllies2141nahhh, he just hasn't lived long enough to see alternate claims be settled; that might take another 500 years.

@ayushsharma8804

8 ай бұрын

@@everythingisalllies2141 no one like that exists, deluded folk with no education in anything? Sure, we have plenty of those

@thereligionofrationality8257

8 ай бұрын

@@everythingisalllies2141 Nobody has proven Einstein to be wrong.

@everythingisalllies2141

8 ай бұрын

@@thereligionofrationality8257 Of course they have. I have as well. Not even hard, you just need to think for yourself.

Amen, brother! 🙏🏻

Why build a wormhole when you can design perfectly stiff parts that when assembled correctly will tactilely predict when you're about to push on either of two adjacent rods coupled a rocker switch, helping one accomplish absolutely nothing in record time.

The stupid YT push ad was about getting rid of toxic poop. How the heck does a fraudulent, snake oil, product end up fronting a scientific video. It makes the video seem less reliable. I’m not a big fan of YTs advertising rules.

Eric’s theory is heavily based on Einstein’s work. They are both wrong.

5:00 on the dot! Wins the debate. It''s time!

Can someone translate for me what Eric is saying? Perhaps I’m missing some context…

@OneLine122

8 ай бұрын

He's right, everybody else is wrong and they should listen to him, otherwise he'll say they are old and dogmatic.

@rossmcleod7983

8 ай бұрын

Context shmontext. It’s a glorious ride, sit back and enjoy.

@carlwide6594

8 ай бұрын

He wants people to try to create a Post Einstein physics. Basically wants people to try and develop l faster than light speed travel, even though our current understanding says it's impossible. The reason is he thinks we're going to die in this planet and our solar system is not suitable to support life.

@JonMurray

8 ай бұрын

@@OneLine122 nailed it.

Excellent Eric! that is the way to breakthrough.

It's the difference between considering actual physical verification to consider something to be science and choosing to say imagination without verification is good enough because you think it's fun. Only they want to insist on the respectability of what they're doing without verification or even it being of any use to anyone and, no doubt, they want the big funding from the public to do it.

@seananderson127

8 ай бұрын

But that's how Einstein made his breakthroughs. Pure imagination.

@kevinmcfarlane2752

8 ай бұрын

@@seananderson127But then they were subjected to tests. Also it wasn’t just imagination for the sake of it. There was an existing unsolved problems situation for the imagination to work on.

@1littlelee

8 ай бұрын

@@kevinmcfarlane2752e=mc2 is actually fundamentally wrong, the testing shoiws its right BUT it wrong at a level we cant test but we know exists!

@lord_haven1114

8 ай бұрын

@@kevinmcfarlane2752 We still have unsolved problems, and the various string theories not only can’t be tested, but aren’t answering the questions satisfactorily. I think Eric is bang on.

@feynmanschwingere_mc2270

7 ай бұрын

@@lord_haven1114 Yeah but Einstein isn't the problem. Also string theory has some VERY interesting elements that allow it to persist. The relationship with pure mathematics, for one, and two it's managed to predict things that it shouldnt be able to predict (nothing testable yet, but even theoretically). Eric is totally right about string theory being SO dominant that it perhaps killed off alternatives that could have worked better. Having said that, string theory and M theory have led to a lot of breakthroughs in mathematics and mathematical physics, breakthroughs that ANY future TOE will have to use to explain the universe (e.g. topological invariance, the fascinating relationships between knot theory and quantum mechanics etc).

brilliant

Have never heard Eric's thoughts on Donald Hoffman

Just to show my ignorance here: 1) The speed of light is not constant 2) It is possible to exceed the speed of light Once we accept these two we can begin to make progress.

I'm tired of hearing about wormholes and warp drives

A stupid question as title with clickbait in mind. Partly succeeded.

I've listened a lot of physicists - Green, Carrol, Cox, Keating, Kaku, Wolfram, etc. Weinstein, although may be somewhat arrogant, is by far the best historian of physics and mathematics and literally destroys everyone in a debate based on his knowledge.

@feynmanschwingere_mc2270

7 ай бұрын

LOL. You must not listen to enough physicists nor speak to enough physicists. Douglas Stone, in terms of science history, would run circles around him in terms of knowledge as would Penrose. Ed Witten would melt him. Weinberg too. Weinstein even admitted he's afraid of Witten. What's Weinstein's H-Index? And in THIS video he actually believes Einstein is correct but he didn't want a boring panel in which EVERYBODY agreed so he played devils advocate here - and did an excellent job. He's super smart but the idea that he's "by far teh best historian of physics and mathematics and literally destroys everyone in a debated based on his knowledge," is laughably ludicrous and displays an ignorance of ACTUAL physics historians who do the very research Weinstein parrots. Heck David Albert, the philosopher (Frederick E. Woodbridge Professor of Philosophy and Director of the M.A. Program in The Philosophical Foundations of Physics at Columbia University, author of "Time and Chance," "Quantum Mechanics and Experience," among others) would MELT Weinstein.

Sad to say but its only after death lays these types of old souls to rest will any true progress come

The most dangerous theory is a theory that accounts for almost everything we need to account for. Its extraordinary utility convinces us that we have understood something fundamental when in fact we have barely even begun to scratch the surface. Utility is and has always been a trap and a brain drain.

yes if you can do better, no if you do not have better

@user-qq3bl6py3g

8 ай бұрын

Pretty sure this is going to be weak

Everyone knows general relativity breaks down at the quantum level We need to challenge everything

@WillOfFiree

8 ай бұрын

Even einstein said spooky action in distant

LOL artists debating the right font for printing E=MC^2.

You can watch the rest of the video for free if you pass through the wormhole.

We don't need to abandon Einstein. He inspired people around the world. He is one of the founders of Quantum Mechanics the most precise model of the microscopic world and the macroscopic world- Special Relativity and General Relativity (GR). Although it turned out lately that GR is wrong and could not be unified with Quantum Mechanics, it nonetheless brought forward winning formula, ways and means of tackling difficult problems in science. It is now up to us to continue his quest for a theory of everything in physics. The key is Quantum Gravitation. We now have an empirical theory of Quantum Gravity- The unitary Trinity God Theory and Equations that are deeply hidden in plain sight and manifested by Quantum Gravitation, Quantum Gravitational Entanglement and Gravitational Quantum Computation. Also, Quantum Gravity is the key to unification of Gravity ang Quantum Mechanics. Quantum Gravity and the theory, mathematics, laws, reproducible experiments and observations that underpinned it, is crucial for an empirical real true Quantum Theory of Gravity that would finish Einstein's Revolution in physics. Problem is that, since the 17th century up to the present, the Mathematics that we have so far cannot solve the problem of quantum gravitation. Mathematics is invented and discovered. That's my personal experience. I've invented/discovered a completely new mathematics in the course of my 30-year-long basic research on Quantum Gravity in Singapore. I called it Majulah Matematika in honour of my home country Singapore. I use it to solve one of the most difficult conundrums in physics- the True Nature of Gravity. In addition, I also have invented/discovered the elusive Magnetic Monopole and the Gravitational Computation Language and Codes that program and run the Quantum Gravitation and the Universe itself as the Ultimate Massive Cosmic Computer System covering the entire observable Universe. Here is one of the many solutions that we can derive from my new mathematics: A Computer Universe that is real. It is run by Quantum Gravitational Computation, Quantum Gravitational Entanglement and Quantum Gravitation covering the entire Universe. An empirical Theory of Quantum Gravity is the key. And it will led us to understanding of how and why Gravity works. It will also at the same time, debunk and invalidate String Theory, Loop Quantum Gravity, M Theory, Theory of General Relativity and all failed and wrong theories of gravity. But it will proved and validate Einstein's Hidden Variables and EPR's authors Einstein, Podolsky and Rosen correct. The Hidden variables are: Quantum Gravity, Quantum Anti-Gravity, Quantum Neutral Gravity, the macroscopic cosmic scale Gravitational Quantum Entanglement and Gravitational Quantum Computation. All these would complete the Quantum Foundation, Unification of Gravity with Quantum Mechanics and the realization of Theory of Everything in Physics. I have discovered and cracked the code of the true nature of Gravity in my over 30 years of basic research works in Singapore. This discovery/invention/theory of mine include THE GOD EQUATION - THE TRINITY Equations, Laws and Codes For QUANTUM GRAVITATION , QUANTUM GRAVITATIONAL ENTANGLE MENT and GRAVITATIONAL QUANTUM COMPUTATION that pave the way for Theory of Everything in Physics: - THE 3-in-1 HOLY GRAILS of Physics: 1. Quantum Anti-Gravity/Spin Up Quantum Gravitational Entanglement/0 Rhu Bit or R Bit: QAG = ∆QGOρ 2. Quantum Gravity/Spin Down Quantum Gravitational Entanglement/1 Rhu Bit or R Bit: QG = ∆QGOρ > ∆QGFρ = ↓α 3. Quantum Neutral Gravity/Superposition Quantum Gravitational Entanglement/01 and/or 10 Rhu Bit or R Bit: QNG = ∆QGOρ = ∆QGFρ = ↑↓α We now have a working Quantum Theory of Gravity that is testable and complete with reproducible empirical experiments with the same results if repeated over and over again and again, confirmed by empirical observations in nature with 7-Sigma level results, guided by empirical Laws, Cosmic/Universal Computation and physical/mathematical Trinity God Equations that are predictive, precise and does no collapse even in high energies of Big Bang and singularity of Black Hole. Quantum Gravity or Quantum Gravitation have three types that are equivalent to and manifested by Quantum Computational Gravitation- the biggest and most powerful Computer Software Program and Hardware in the Universe and Quantum Gravitational Entanglement - a Quantum Entanglement at Macroscopic Cosmic Scale namely: 1. Quantum Anti-Gravity = Spin Up Quantum Entanglement State; 2. Quantum Neutral Gravity = Superposition Quantum Entanglement State; 3. Quantum Gravity = Spin Down Quantum Entanglement State. Quantum Gravitation is governed by and follow the unitary Trinity Laws, Mathematics and Physics of Quantum Gravitation, Gravitational Quantum Computation and Quantum Gravitational Entanglement. We now have a new Laws of Physics and two newly discovered Fundamental Forces of Nature - The Quantum Neutral Gravity and Quantum Anti-Gravity which completed the heart of the Quantum Theory of Gravity published in London. Paris and Zurich last December 2022 as follows: 1. First Law of Quantum Gravitation: Rovira’s Universal Law of Quantum Gravitation: “The greater mass density of gravitating Quantum Objects than the Quantum Gravitational Field causes a downward acceleration of the Quantum Objects in a Quantum Gravitational Field instantaneously mediated by Graviton.” - Roel Real Rovira Equation for Quantum Gravity, and Spin Down Quantum Gravitational Entanglement: QG = ∆QGOρ > ∆QGFρ = ↓α Where: QG is Quantum Gravity in Rovira (value of downward acceleration force due to quantum gravity) in kg. ∆QGOρ is Differential Change in greater mass density of Quantum Gravitating Objects than the mass density of Quantum Gravitational Field in kg/m2 or g/cm3. ∆QGFρ is Differential Change in mass density of Quantum Gravitational Field in kg/m2 or g/cm3. ↓α is the Resultant Downward Acceleration of Gravitating Quantum Objects in mtr/sec. 2. Second Law of Quantum Gravitation: Rovira’s Universal Law of Quantum Anti-Gravity. “The lesser mass density of gravitating Quantum Objects than the Quantum Gravitational Field causes an upward acceleration of the Quantum Objects in a Quantum Gravitational Field instantaneously mediated by Graviton.” -Roel Real Rovira Equation for Quantum Anti-Gravity/Spin Up Quantum Gravitational Entanglement: QAG = ∆QGOρ Where: QAG is Quantum Anti-Gravity in Rovira (value of upward acceleration force due to quantum anti-gravity) in kg. ∆QGOρ is Differential Change in lesser mass density of Quantum Anti-Gravitating Objects than the mass density of Quantum Gravitational Field in kg/m2 or g/cm3. ∆QGFρ is Differential Change in mass density of Quantum Gravitational Field in kg/m2 or g/cm3. ↑α is the Resultant Upward Acceleration of Anti-Gravitating Quantum Objects in mtr/sec. 3. Third Law of Quantum Gravitation: Rovira’s Law of Quantum Neutral Gravitation. “The equal mass density of gravitating Quantum Objects and the Quantum Gravitational Field causes a zero acceleration or floating or hoovering of the gravitating Quantum Objects in a Quantum Gravitational Field, instantaneously mediated by Graviton.” - Roel real Rovira Equation for Quantum Neutral Gravity and Superposition Quantum Gravitational Entanglement: QNG = ∆QGOρ = ∆QGFρ = ↑↓α Where: QNG is Quantum Neutral Gravity in Rovira (value of zero acceleration force due to quantum neutral gravity) in kg. ∆QGOρ is Differential Change in equal mass density of Quantum Neutral Gravitating Objects to the mass density of Quantum Gravitational Field in kg/m2 or g/cm3. ∆QGFρ is Differential Change in mass density of Quantum Gravitational Field in kg/m2 or g/cm3. ↑↓0α is the Resultant zero acceleration or non-acceleration of Neutral Gravitating Quantum Objects in mtr/sec. More detailed information could be found on the published papers 2 years ago in London, Paris, and Zurich, online and at the two scientific Journals ACADEMIA and REAL TRUE NATURE. Alternatively, you can google the name of the author ROEL REAL ROVIRA to arrive at the published paper on Quantum Gravity. Most recently, additional two well respected scientific journals namely NATURE and the AMERICAN PHYSICAL SOCIETY APS Physical Review Journals have officially invited this author to submit manuscripts on his Research on Quantum Gravity for publication for PRX QUANTUM in preparation for a celebration for International Year of Quantum IYQ 2025 to showcase the best papers of the year. Copyright 2022 ROEL REAL ROVIRA. All Rights Reserved.

4:35 imaginary numbers also abandon reality but turn up in physics as well

One wants to move forward the other tries to hold him back ......

Having texted into both video’s, FB groups, as well as quora, I personally believe abandoning Einstein’s essential theory’s is a time well passed. On a number of fronts the theory’s representation of reality is flawed and siting various algorithms which prop up the short comings bears that out. 1, Einstein uses man made numerical systems, which when viewed in reality are themselves construct to navigate the Newtonian realm. 2, That spooky action at a distance is indeed only true as a “apparent” reality, since in quantum there is no distance nor time. 3, Einstein knew, (absolutely) that what he had propositioned was a theory, knowing that the interaction of both the electron, AND photon were action at a distance, however, was widely accepted. Don’t simply abandon his work, but for the sake of true science, hold true to the facts.

These things happen - this is not first instance of shake ups in scientific understandings. I commend these views to you: Example 1 a bit of chaos leading to Chaos Theory leading to Perturbation Theory and ... Also Example 2 tectonic plates and tectonic shifting leading to Plate Tectonic theory. Observation: There must be more research going on now than at most other times in human history. So, Q: does the scientific system need to be changed? A: no it is doing rather well and adapts to change Q: should desire for change with a charged emotional urgency imply urgent change is required immediately? A: uh-huh baby. it means sit down, relax, take a nice cup of tea and let the emotion pass. The urgency will decrease in time and you will be pleased. Q: does Einstein need to be abandoned? A: Albert Einstein is dead however his theories live on and may be scrutinized by any and all and seem to have been rigorously contested - yet still survive. My questions are: Why raise supremacist issues based on non-scientific approaches, populism and personal opinions that may never be validated within lifetime of supremacist? What purpose can best be served by challenging a system that works, has been proven to adapt with peer reviews as a means to validate new theories and discoveries? Alternative answers: Public funding of scientific research tends to be disciplined and operated by peer group reviews. There are no reasons why exotic research can not be funded by individuals or organizations other than publicly funded means?

Notice that Weinstein didn't speak against String Theory.

Einstein’s theory of gravity is still our best working theory of gravity. The title to the video is Clickbait for people who don’t understand that.

What Dirac did was already known to mathematicians.

i think most people dont understand what Einstein said

Spooky action in a distance. Black holes, speed limit C, are all still spooky unless we switch to a better working theories ,but they are not Einsteins .

Gravity is the repulsive force between space time - the 'ether' - and mass. Electromagnetic waves are ripples in space time - ie essentially variations in gravitational strength, size of space and rate of change of time. EM waves go left & right \ up & down. Light goes in & out. The closer space time is together the slower time goes and the smaller the spatial dimensions are. A gradient in space time produces a gravitational force. Mass displaces space time thus creating a gradient that produces gravity. The density of space time is not constant. The rate of change of time is the common variable - controllable factor. There are various evidences for the existence of the Ether. It has an impedance. It bends electromagnetic waves - look at Einstein's gravitational lensing, gravitational wells, even mirages etc. If you are designing for radio transmission your circuitry through to the antenna is designed on the basis of there being a medium - ie on the basis of a classical spring. So treat it as a medium. When an electron moves it excites the Ether medium. The Ether propagates the wave and then, via gravity, moves an electron at the other end. The Ether is between atoms so the spacing of the atoms effects the propagation of EM waves through mass. If you are going to bend light \ EM waves with gravity that would imply that they have mass. If so that mass has to come from somewhere. It has to be created and be depleted at its source. However if you have an Ether that is bent by mass that easily explains the bending of light \ EM waves whilst at the same time explaining gravity. Impedance and inertia are basically the same and they give rise to EM waves \ light having mass like properties whilst this is in fact an effect in space time. Looking at physics on this basis these explain a lot of things in a simple manner. Ether has a lot of properties and characteristics which we are only just starting to discover. EM waves - ether waves - going through an ether that is not constant is that the speed of time will have a different effect in each direction thus the reverse direction cancelling out the forward direction. That's why the Michelson Morely experiment said that there was no ether when if fact there is. If you move an object into water it's inertia will increase. If you move it back into air its inertia will decrease. If you move it into 'free space' its inertia will decrease but will not be zero. If you are submersed in a submarine in water and you create a tunnel in front of you what will happen? - You will be propelled forward. If you do the same in the Ether the same thing will happen. If you are going through empty space - ie no Ether - you will not have inertia in the general frame of reference. You will be moving your local frame of reference with you so everything will be relative to that including gravity and your inertial state. Your movement will be a result of the gradient that you have created in the Ether. Likewise the force of gravity on you. Run with that.

The answer to all questions lies in the psychic sphere. I am an artist and the only one to formulate a unified theory that is composed of images in art

Conservation of Spatial Curvature (Both Matter and Energy described as "Quanta" of Spatial Curvature. A string is revealed to be a twisted cord when viewed up close.) Is there an alternative interpretation of "Asymptotic Freedom"? What if Quarks are actually made up of twisted tubes which become physically entangled with two other twisted tubes to produce a proton? Instead of the Strong Force being mediated by the constant exchange of gluons, it would be mediated by the physical entanglement of these twisted tubes. When only two twisted tubules are entangled, a meson is produced which is unstable and rapidly unwinds (decays) into something else. A proton would be analogous to three twisted rubber bands becoming entangled and the "Quarks" would be the places where the tubes are tangled together. The behavior would be the same as rubber balls (representing the Quarks) connected with twisted rubber bands being separated from each other or placed closer together producing the exact same phenomenon as "Asymptotic Freedom" in protons and neutrons. The force would become greater as the balls are separated, but the force would become less if the balls were placed closer together. Therefore, the gluon is a synthetic particle (zero mass, zero charge) invented to explain the Strong Force. An artificial Christmas tree can hold the ornaments in place, but it is not a real tree. String Theory was not a waste of time, because Geometry is the key to Math and Physics. However, can we describe Standard Model interactions using only one extra spatial dimension? What did some of the old clockmakers use to store the energy to power the clock? Was it a string or was it a spring? What if we describe subatomic particles as spatial curvature, instead of trying to describe General Relativity as being mediated by particles? Fixing the Standard Model with more particles is like trying to mend a torn fishing net with small rubber balls, instead of a piece of twisted twine. Quantum Entangled Twisted Tubules: “We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question which divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct.” Neils Bohr (lecture on a theory of elementary particles given by Wolfgang Pauli in New York, c. 1957-8, in Scientific American vol. 199, no. 3, 1958) The following is meant to be a generalized framework for an extension of Kaluza-Klein Theory. Does it agree with some aspects of the “Twistor Theory” of Roger Penrose, and the work of Eric Weinstein on “Geometric Unity”, and the work of Dr. Lisa Randall on the possibility of one extra spatial dimension? During the early history of mankind, the twisting of fibers was used to produce thread, and this thread was used to produce fabrics. The twist of the thread is locked up within these fabrics. Is matter made up of twisted 3D-4D structures which store spatial curvature that we describe as “particles"? Are the twist cycles the "quanta" of Quantum Mechanics? When we draw a sine wave on a blackboard, we are representing spatial curvature. Does a photon transfer spatial curvature from one location to another? Wrap a piece of wire around a pencil and it can produce a 3D coil of wire, much like a spring. When viewed from the side it can look like a two-dimensional sine wave. You could coil the wire with either a right-hand twist, or with a left-hand twist. Could Planck's Constant be proportional to the twist cycles. A photon with a higher frequency has more energy. ( E=hf, More spatial curvature as the frequency increases = more Energy ). What if Quark/Gluons are actually made up of these twisted tubes which become entangled with other tubes to produce quarks where the tubes are entangled? (In the same way twisted electrical extension cords can become entangled.) Therefore, the gluons are a part of the quarks. Quarks cannot exist without gluons, and vice-versa. Mesons are made up of two entangled tubes (Quarks/Gluons), while protons and neutrons would be made up of three entangled tubes. (Quarks/Gluons) The "Color Charge" would be related to the XYZ coordinates (orientation) of entanglement. "Asymptotic Freedom", and "flux tubes" are logically based on this concept. The Dirac “belt trick” also reveals the concept of twist in the ½ spin of subatomic particles. If each twist cycle is proportional to h, we have identified the source of Quantum Mechanics as a consequence twist cycle geometry. Modern physicists say the Strong Force is mediated by a constant exchange of Gluons. The diagrams produced by some modern physicists actually represent the Strong Force like a spring connecting the two quarks. Asymptotic Freedom acts like real springs. Their drawing is actually more correct than their theory and matches perfectly to what I am saying in this model. You cannot separate the Gluons from the Quarks because they are a part of the same thing. The Quarks are the places where the Gluons are entangled with each other. Neutrinos would be made up of a twisted torus (like a twisted donut) within this model. The twist in the torus can either be Right-Hand or Left-Hand. Some twisted donuts can be larger than others, which can produce three different types of neutrinos. If a twisted tube winds up on one end and unwinds on the other end as it moves through space, this would help explain the “spin” of normal particles, and perhaps also the “Higgs Field”. However, if the end of the twisted tube joins to the other end of the twisted tube forming a twisted torus (neutrino), would this help explain “Parity Symmetry” violation in Beta Decay? Could the conversion of twist cycles to writhe cycles through the process of supercoiling help explain “neutrino oscillations”? Spatial curvature (mass) would be conserved, but the structure could change. ===================== Gravity is a result of a very small curvature imbalance within atoms. (This is why the force of gravity is so small.) Instead of attempting to explain matter as "particles", this concept attempts to explain matter more in the manner of our current understanding of the space-time curvature of gravity. If an electron has qualities of both a particle and a wave, it cannot be either one. It must be something else. Therefore, a "particle" is actually a structure which stores spatial curvature. Can an electron-positron pair (which are made up of opposite directions of twist) annihilate each other by unwinding into each other producing Gamma Ray photons? Does an electron travel through space like a threaded nut traveling down a threaded rod, with each twist cycle proportional to Planck’s Constant? Does it wind up on one end, while unwinding on the other end? Is this related to the Higgs field? Does this help explain the strange ½ spin of many subatomic particles? Does the 720 degree rotation of a 1/2 spin particle require at least one extra dimension? Alpha decay occurs when the two protons and two neutrons (which are bound together by entangled tubes), become un-entangled from the rest of the nucleons . Beta decay occurs when the tube of a down quark/gluon in a neutron becomes overtwisted and breaks producing a twisted torus (neutrino) and an up quark, and the ejected electron. The production of the torus may help explain the “Symmetry Violation” in Beta Decay, because one end of the broken tube section is connected to the other end of the tube produced, like a snake eating its tail. The phenomenon of Supercoiling involving twist and writhe cycles may reveal how overtwisted quarks can produce these new particles. The conversion of twists into writhes, and vice-versa, is an interesting process, which is also found in DNA molecules. Could the production of multiple writhe cycles help explain the three generations of quarks and neutrinos? If the twist cycles increase, the writhe cycles would also have a tendency to increase. Gamma photons are produced when a tube unwinds producing electromagnetic waves. ( Mass=1/Length ) The “Electric Charge” of electrons or positrons would be the result of one twist cycle being displayed at the 3D-4D surface interface of the particle. The physical entanglement of twisted tubes in quarks within protons and neutrons and mesons displays an overall external surface charge of an integer number. Because the neutrinos do not have open tube ends, (They are a twisted torus.) they have no overall electric charge. Within this model a black hole could represent a quantum of gravity, because it is one cycle of spatial gravitational curvature. Therefore, instead of a graviton being a subatomic particle it could be considered to be a black hole. The overall gravitational attraction would be caused by a very tiny curvature imbalance within atoms. In this model Alpha equals the compactification ratio within the twistor cone, which is approximately 1/137. 1= Hypertubule diameter at 4D interface 137= Cone’s larger end diameter at 3D interface where the photons are absorbed or emitted. The 4D twisted Hypertubule gets longer or shorter as twisting or untwisting occurs. (720 degrees per twist cycle.) How many neutrinos are left over from the Big Bang? They have a small mass, but they could be very large in number. Could this help explain Dark Matter? Why did Paul Dirac use the twist in a belt to help explain particle spin? Is Dirac’s belt trick related to this model? Is the “Quantum” unit based on twist cycles? I started out imagining a subatomic Einstein-Rosen Bridge whose internal surface is twisted with either a Right-Hand twist, or a Left-Hand twist producing a twisted 3D/4D membrane. This topological Soliton model grew out of that simple idea. I was also trying to imagine a way to stuff the curvature of a 3 D sine wave into subatomic particles. .

Scientists looking like Elvis impersonators can't be wrong.

Thinking outside the box off or 4 D.

I submit to you Sirs (GE and EW) this was a fascinating interaction. As always, I agree with Eric.

In a nutshell....science (tism) of the gaps, and no one wants to fill the gap.

Please don't have Avi lobe on. Please.

I suspect that Weinstein is better with words than numbers.

As soon as we do that it's going to turn out he's right.

Talking and talking

Its incredibly incredible and Nobel prize. End of conversation.

I’m a big fan of Weinstein, but George Ellis has an unbelievable clarity and consistency of thought. I think Weinstein is outclassed here.

Did Jung not say that the psyche is the only thing that isnt held by time. What man creates appears it the future but orginates in the past

Yes because fans thought it’s worthy social media not good for dating really

Subject + Object = wormholes and gravity

Lol. Spelling names is an art and Idea. His name is not Geore Ellis it is George Ellis. You skipped a G ! lol

It HAS to be considered , flat rejection of the idea of abandoning Einstein is WRONG.

Sounds like Eric's calling for a Burning Man for physicists.

Einstein even said that it was an equally valid theory he was wrong!

We don't need to abandon Einstein, just stand on his shoulders.

Anything to rip us out of the drug addiction of physics that is String Theory. Good damn it.

This guy's a pain in the ass. No one is stopping him from coming up with as many ideas as he wants. Where's the beef?

"I'm going to be outrageous" is a bulletproof announcement that you're about to come up with something really, really banal. Eric Weinstein supplies one more data-point for the theory... But abandon Einstein? Not yet. Microsoft's spell-check routine thinks that's the correct spelling of Eric's name.

Wrong about what?

5:16

Probably Einsteins work needs a complementing part (not a replacement).

@Greg042869

8 ай бұрын

Quantum physics is a complementing part, isn't it? Almost like the science of the pixels that make up the screen, while GR is the picture it all produces.

@blijebij

8 ай бұрын

@@Greg042869 yes it is. I do not have the impression it will be fast solved. It is not math&calculation (math gods). It is perspective and conceptual that is the problem.

Is pi proven irrational or is Eric engaging in bulldada

I agree with Eric, pay attention?

Theory of Everything is not about Einstein so a detour when the road is foggy is good. Hey we can always come back to Einstein.

Totally agree, our institutions need a shake up. We've been going in circles around Einstein much too long!

@darko714

8 ай бұрын

Just don't challenge the coof shot.

@kevinmcfarlane2752

8 ай бұрын

Scientists should be free to dream up what they like. But it needs to be tested and if it disagrees with experiment then it’s wrong (Feynman).

@jacobshirley3457

8 ай бұрын

Nobody has come up with better, testable alternatives. Nothing even close. Hopefully, one day.

@feynmanschwingere_mc2270

7 ай бұрын

LOL you act like many, many have not tried. You do NOT know your physics history. The real problem is that QM is not a real theory but rather a mathematical machinery we use to make statistical predictions rather than something that has an INTERNALLY CONSISTENT axiomatic foundation. This is half the problem. We don't fully understand entanglement and what its potential relation is to, say, gravity. Einstein was a path breaker and we are all in his shadow. Both QM and GR would not exist without him.