I want to thank you for what you do. I have not been licensed for around 8 years. However, I do declare that I don't need a license. I recently got my first visit in around 10 years. There was a knock at the door, I opened the door. There was a man who declared he was a TV License Officer and presented his ID. I just shut the door I didn't say a word. I felt great, made my day thanks to you.

@brimkathstampex2306

9 ай бұрын

So what? You've already declared that you don't need a licence, so just shutting the door and saying nothing is pointless and meaningless.

@ObservationDeck

9 ай бұрын

@@brimkathstampex2306 I mean they have to confidence to stand their ground, that is far from meaningless.

@ObservationDeck

9 ай бұрын

Well done!

@namor357

9 ай бұрын

Yeah, that’s on my bucket list. No luck so far.

@tardeliesmagic

9 ай бұрын

@@brimkathstampex2306 Like your comment.

Police should NEVER act as a Private Commercial Enforcement Officer, they're job is ONLY to preserve the peace

@Nickle314

9 ай бұрын

They do. I audited TFL accounts. The first person in 10 years to do that. TFL are payng the met 600,000 a month to enforce £1.50 bus fare collection

@tal4546

9 ай бұрын

​@@Nickle314 My daughter who lives in Islington told me the police get on the bus every day. That explains why. Have you seen the recording of that young woman they dragged of the bus with her young son crying for his mum while being held by a female cop with two brutes handcuffing his mum? And it turned out she had paid for her fare?

@Nickle314

9 ай бұрын

@@tal4546 I suspect that's rare. Here they turn up mob handed -12 in a gang. Lots get caught, plus they get a lot of illegals too. The problem is that in the background there are serious offences being committed. Driving on pavements, illegal motor bikes, no helmets, on the pavements. Assaults where people have to jump out of the way. Red light jumping too. So which is more serious? One woman on a bike got smashed by a car. 3 months in hospital. That will cost well over £100K. I think there needs to be a prosecution as well with a year in prison. Not for the car driver, they are innocent. The woman for jumping a red. A friend and neighbour was put in a wheel chair. Illegal e-motorbike on the pavement, hit from behind. The police won't stop it. Last monday they were ordering cyclists to cycle on the pavement so they could be safe. So to prove a point I walked down the pavement and a copper pulled me out of the way. Why? It's dangerous. So why are you ordering cyclists to put others at risk? He was rude too, so he's got a complaint. So will all of the others, for ignoring his actions. Now they know I have video, and I've requested all the info from them as part of the complaint. They know I have photos of all of their shoulder numbers. Will they supply it all? If not that's an offence too.

@steve3291

9 ай бұрын

@@tal4546 TfL fund the Police to support the revenue enforcement teams. The woman who was detained failed to show proof of fare to the TFL revenue team even though she was required to. Then she refused to give her details to the police which is an arrestable offence. Even her own son told her to show proof of fare like every other normal human being on the bus.

@HorusHerotic

9 ай бұрын

"Should"

Fear is always used to control…. No fear = no control .

@GolfMike09

2 ай бұрын

👍👍👍💯

Report those forces for NOT responding to FOI requests as they are backed by parliamentary acts, therefore, those police forces are breaking the law

@evelbsstudio

9 ай бұрын

Don't they always? There above the law don't you know 😢

@anonnemo2504

9 ай бұрын

Police forces who say they cannot meet this particular request under the Freedom of Information Act because it would cost more than £450 to do so are lying. A simple database query would provide the answer to the question in seconds and probably cost less than £4.50, including letter preparation and postage charges. They do this to discourage further FOI requests from the same individual.

Ever since I have had a ring doorbell installed. Every single uninvited visitor have been extremely well behaved. It stops an awfull lot of false accusations happening. Best part of it is you don't even have to open the door. Just look who it is and ignore if you want to.

@gitfoad8032

9 ай бұрын

Big Brother is watching you, as & when it pleases them to.

@andrewsingleton2710

9 ай бұрын

I agree. The doorbell is on the front door and I generally use the back door. They can watch what they want

@TestGearJunkie.

9 ай бұрын

Ring doorbells can be intercepted by the police and God knows who else. Wouldn't touch one with a very long pole.

@theclotshotdidit3115

9 ай бұрын

​​@@andrewsingleton2710do you get to your back door from the same direction (avoiding the spy) every time, or does it log your movements? Do your friends and family? 🤔🤔🤔 what about your neighbours that walk past, you should (like B and B's etc who provide WiFi) look into your responsibility under the data protection laws, how often do you delete films of people who never consented? How long do you store THEIR information and for what reason? Could be very interesting, I might have to look at GDPR and the ICO for the responsibilities 😂 Maybe start reporting spy camera owners to the regulators 😂😂

@davetrueman6354

9 ай бұрын

Speaking of the goons, have you noticed there is a distinct lack of new footage involving door to door interactions with them. Are video doorbells deterring them, or are they giving up as they simply cannot cope with the workload of visiting an ever increasing amount of addresses that are ditching their licences?

Year's ago as i was going out of my front door for work i was arrested by police concerning a tv licence. I'd moved about a bit over the years and the police said they had been looking for me for a few years . Because apparently I'd answered the door to a goon and admitted to using a tv without a licence which was a lie. Anyway i was in court that day and the judge said as it was so long ago i shouldn't even be there. So i was released and lost a days wage this why i detest these lying scum.

Great stuff Jon👏 Over two years now without a licence. Apparently there's an agent on the way again😅🤷‍♂️. Keep up the good work mate👊

@gitfoad8032

9 ай бұрын

It took only a few yrs to accumulate a pile of 5inches of threatening letters from these goons, when I didn't have a tv.

I’ve had loads of letters saying they are coming round. And been saying that for about 18 months now and still no show.

Every time i hear "in the UK you HAVE to have a TV licence" i loose a little more faith in my countrymen.

On the more than £450 cost, what you do is follow up with a FOI request for the actual cost and how they calculated it.

@Nickle314

9 ай бұрын

PS. What you will discover is that they invented the costs in the first place, then have to justify it.

@ThatsnewsTV

9 ай бұрын

Norfolk and Good, huh?

@Nickle314

9 ай бұрын

The land of the High Six

@theclotshotdidit3115

9 ай бұрын

Genius 👍🤣🤣

@Nickle314

9 ай бұрын

The organsation must advise you how to restructure the request to get the costs down. I take it that's a fail. The standard approach. If you asked for the last ten years, ask just for the last year. Then request the cost of that and start adding in other years one by one.

Jon, I am a poorly pensioner & like your Mum i was really worried about goons. I just emailed BBC & told them I "withdraw the implied right of access". They replied saying they accept it & will not visit me. I keep copies of my email & their reply beside the door so if they did happen to call I will just say nothing & hand them the copies. I also have a big barky German Shepherd 😂

@nobbybrown8056

9 ай бұрын

That is very clever, I'd be interested to know if they ever do re-visit you.

@anonnemo2504

9 ай бұрын

I would not have withdrawn the implied right of access to my property. It is not unknown for warrants to be issued based upon evidence that includes such a withdrawal. I doubt, however, that a warrant would be issued solely on this basis.

@Simonsimon-fy3hq

8 ай бұрын

Sorry to reply so late - too wet for gardening so catching up on YT. If you, your wife/partner or other occupant are over 75 and in receipt of Pension Credit, you can apply for a free TV licence. BBC don't mention it or promote it. Have a look into it. I did it for my neighbour as he was very worried about the door step visits. It does work.

Licence free for 6 years. Never had a visit, and just keep throwing the letters in the bin (I've had so many 'investigations' started into my property now!). Best advice I ever received: turn your home into an information black hole; they send stuff in, but nothing ever comes out. If they don't know who you are, they can't fine, much less prosecute you. If you ignore the letters, and don't speak to the goons, you'll never have a problem.

@BedsitBob

9 ай бұрын

Almost 14 years here. Had about a dozen visits, four of which happened while I was in. I've developed a technique involving total silence, while filming them. 😊 Last one was "gone in 60 seconds". 😁 He said he was phoning the police. That was over 10 years ago, and I'm still waiting. 😁

@Nickle314

9 ай бұрын

Another option, report each letter to the police via their website as harrasment. Write the reference on the letter and file it. If they turn up, name and id, report them for harrasment, plus the Town Police Clauses Act 1847 Section 28 offence above. Then you have the evidence to stop them writing to you, visiting you, because its harrasment. ie. Would it be acceptable for an ex with a restraining order on them to write to you every 2 years asking if you still wanted to have sex with them? Same BBC thinking.

I've lost count of letters I've binned. Been under investigation 3 times, had 3 dates of threatened visits but nobody showed up. Currently my investigation has been postponed for 10 days so i can get licenced - for the 3rd time, its pathetic.

@FuelPoverty

9 ай бұрын

What? Only three? I've had 150 letters in three years (I have two homes), around 20 investigations have reached their final stages, due to my having failed to respond to their letters ( when they do come, I shall be asking them to go to the village post office and buy me a book of stamps), and they still don't know my name. Keep up the good work.

Never had a licence in my life and never will I'm not paying to LOOK at something 😕 Plus no warrant no entry ❤

@brimkathstampex2306

9 ай бұрын

Do you ever watch any TV and if so what?

As someone who's Norfolk born and bred I can tell you they're one of the worst police services going.

They want you to repeat the declaration every two years. There is no obligation to do so. The effect is they have to pay some bod to attend, bang on the door, and hope for an answer. At 0800, I was not going to get out of the bath for anyone, and bod just went away. 🤣🤣🤣

Hi last month I was doing security gaurding a load of derelict houses that was used in a council scheme and they been empty for 6 years because they unsafe The reception where I was based is still getting tv licence reminders 😂😂😂 after 6 years been empty

Should be zero times , seeing as they can not be bothered turning up for more serious crime

Years ago I had a visit from the TV licence people. There were two of them, a female & a male. The female was very abrupt & not very polite. The male agent however seemed embarrassed by his colleagues manner & tried to smooth the encounter. I had a licence which seemed to frustrate the female agent when I produced it. Thank you Jon for looking out for everyday people mate. It's much appreciated. 👍

@brimkathstampex2306

9 ай бұрын

Should have just told them to b----r off. Why waste your time and breath talking to them?

@bexsta7766

9 ай бұрын

👍

@rafaliciousbmx

9 ай бұрын

Closing the door would of been a better option. 🚪

@MikeEves

9 ай бұрын

You don't need to show them anything or prove anything

The door to door salesmen and saleswomen have the power to leave your premises empty handed (after arriving uninvited).

@pigeonpoo1823

9 ай бұрын

They're like vampires. Simply don't invite them in!

@dh2032

8 ай бұрын

@@pigeonpoo1823 same beliefs, they can with court order but who knows what one of them look like wave shopping list or bus pass, and say is court order? and the possibly will?

Remember the leaked Crapita training vid where they stressed their goons should target the poor because they're more profitable?

@FuelPoverty

9 ай бұрын

Please link if possible.

@gitfoad8032

9 ай бұрын

@@FuelPoverty - I'm sure it's readily available, it was on tv 'news' ffs, in Brit. Maybe not BBC... .

@gitfoad8032

9 ай бұрын

@@FuelPoverty - Prick. The BBC has ordered an investigation into how an outsourcing firm collects the TV licence amid claims that it runs an aggressive incentive scheme to maximise collection of fees from non-payers. Under a bonus scheme alleged by the Daily Mail, Capita’s enforcement officers are told to catch more than 28 licence fee evaders each week, as part of the company’s £58m contract to collect the charge. Staff targeted vulnerable people, including this month a war veteran with dementia and a young mother in a women’s refuge, the Mail reported. Capita was said to have told an undercover reporter, who posed as an applicant for an enforcement job, that the company was “greedy” for as much cash as possible. Area TV licensing manager Ian Doyle was filmed saying: “We are looking to get 28 licence sales per week from each officer. As soon as you hit that magic 28 there’s a bonus ... Basically you’ve got to get 28 conviction statements before you can start hitting extra money.” He joked that the job involved “attacking poor unsuspecting victims”. The BBC told Capita to investigate the claims and “ensure swift and appropriate action” was taken. It confirmed that Capita operated an incentive scheme for enforcement officers, but insisted that this should only apply to licence fee sales and not prosecution statements as the undercover footage suggested. A letter to Capita from the director general of the BBC, Tony Hall, demanded reassurances that the practices revealed by the investigation were not standard, and the collection teams were not targeting vulnerable people. In the letter, released by the BBC, he wrote: “Public trust is the cornerstone of the licence fee system. It is clear that, in this instance, Capita has fallen short of the standards the BBC has a right to expect on behalf of the British public.” A BBC spokesman said: “We are very disappointed by the conduct of Capita’s interviewing managers in this particular case, which is not in line with the high standards we expect and does not reflect the policies in place.” It added: “We have asked Capita to investigate urgently and ensure swift and appropriate action is taken. We expect inquiry officers to behave in a courteous, professional manner and abide by a published code of conduct.” A spokeswoman for Capita said: “Inquiry officers are expected to act in a professional manner, abide by strict rules of conduct and adhere to the Pace [Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984] code of practice and we strongly refute any allegation that inquiry officers are instructed to act outside of these requirements.”

Good video again Jon. Seriously, you would think the Police have better things to do with their time. What about policing the streets preventing crime? We’re paying for them with our council tax, I can’t say I’ve seen any in weeks.

I have intentionally ignored the BBC threat letters hoping they'll send a goon to try and intimidate me into buying a license, why? So I can film me politely telling said goons to go away. If all goes to plan I'll send you a copy my friend to show others how to deal with tbese peoples. Tbe BBC must go private and drop this stealth tax mainly on the old.

@brimkathstampex2306

9 ай бұрын

As the BBC stands at the moment, it might well not exist in its present format after 2027, when its Charter comes up for renewal.

They did in my case. I left them at the door and went to get my phone (nokia 3210). And he stepped in like a bailiff, long time ago but i called the police and they would not remove him. So as i had no tv downstairs, and i would not let him search. He eventually left.

@Alan-gx8gf

9 ай бұрын

Get a Door Security chain !

@stevesmyth4982

9 ай бұрын

You would have been within your rights to 'help' him leave.

@mikehipperson

9 ай бұрын

@@stevesmyth4982 A bit difficult if the plod are still watching as they'll happily charge you with a breach of the peace for ejecting an invited 'guest'!

@stevesmyth4982

9 ай бұрын

@mikehipperson Was he invited to enter? I'd argue not because he was outside the property when the owner went to get his 'phone.

@brimkathstampex2306

9 ай бұрын

You mean 'uninvited'. Who in their right mind would invite them or anybody in?@@mikehipperson

I still wouldnt let them in with a warrant. Let them try and force entry and film it.

@anthonywilliams379

9 ай бұрын

if they have a warrant ask them "do you have the lawful power to enter this premises without my cooperation?" if the answer is no then bid them good day

@ticksize

9 ай бұрын

If you don't let them in they can get a locksmith to gain entry and you will have to bear the cost. Not worth the effort IMHO

@anthonywilliams379

9 ай бұрын

@@ticksize not saying to refuse entry, rather to only allow it under the duress of the threat of them forcing their way in

@brimkathstampex2306

9 ай бұрын

And if the answer is 'yes'?@@anthonywilliams379

@brimkathstampex2306

9 ай бұрын

So they gain entry. Then what? What are they going to find?@@ticksize

Norfolk police have had to file a FOI themselves to the BBC for the information and thats how much the beeb charges them 😂😂😂😂

I don’t need a license I had one visit from a goon , I said no thanks and shut the. Im scared they will come back with the police

@tillycat8690

9 ай бұрын

I’m physically and mentally disabled

@ChilliJonCarne

9 ай бұрын

they wont, dont worry. You played it right, Relax

@stevesmyth4982

9 ай бұрын

The goons need two items of evidence to obtain a warrant before a magistrate will issue a warrant and only when the goon has a warrant will the police attend. There's nothing to be afraid of, don't be wound up about it.

@Thurgosh_OG

9 ай бұрын

You did great. Well done. They won't come back with the police and because you followed the correct steps, open door, identify goon, say no thanks, close the door, they are far less likely to come back because you will be noted as not worth bothering, as you are not easy money for them.

@MikeEves

9 ай бұрын

Not a police matter. Nothing will happen.

the cops will willingly help a TV goon stich u up if they show up to help a goon with no warrent DO NOT LET them in same as a Goon slam the door in their faces and tell them to do one

Trouble is when the police do attende they will make matters worst. The police will turn up and start throwing their weight around like when they attende for backing up utility companies.

£450 (18 hours) to hit a few keys ?!?! WTF ?!?!

@DaedalusYoung

9 ай бұрын

At that rate, it probably took them 40 hours just to write the letter saying it was going to take too long.

@Thurgosh_OG

9 ай бұрын

@@DaedalusYoungThey will have a standard template ready to fill in a few blanks for refusing FOIs. They then should make a record of the FOI on their system but if Norfolk's system is that poor, it's probably a box in a cupboard.

If Norfolk and Leicestershire police didn't have anything to hide they would answer. Please request again.

@Thurgosh_OG

9 ай бұрын

5 different people should request 5 different single years. That would cut the cost of each and see just how much lying and dodging they are really doing.

More sound advice. I haven't had a licence now for approaching 20 years. Some time back in the early 2000's my telly packed up just before christmas. Funds were tight and I agreed with my good lady that we would wait until after christmas until we got a new telly, it never happened, we don't miss it, there's a whole world of interesting viewing to be had on youtube. We aren't into sports, cooking programmes, unreality telly, soap operas, television has nothing to offer either of us, the radio and a good book and youtube are much more our cuppa. I have had the letters, the visits, I ignore the letters and as Jon says here, no need to be rude to anybody, just politely decline their offer and close the door.

Looks like the police will soon be helping the smart meter goons

I live in Norfolk there is a saying, "normal for Norfolk". It is a great county and as far as I know the safest in Britain.

Town Police Clauses Act 1847 Section 28 Every person who wilfully and wantonly disturbs any inhabitant, by pulling or ringing any door bell, or knocking at any door, or who wilfully and unlawfully extinguishes the light of any lamp 2 weeks in jail. No exemption for the BBC or capita Record them. Read them the above. Report them to the police.

@DosGamerMan

9 ай бұрын

Thanks, noted

@spm36

9 ай бұрын

That does not cover these goons or other sales reps, that is for causing a nuisance such as kids knocking and running etc

@spm36

9 ай бұрын

​@@DosGamerMandont note it cos is nonsense

@Nickle314

9 ай бұрын

@@spm36 So what you do is video them. Ask them did they press the bell by accident and or was it wilfully done? Did they want to do it? Then you have them bang to rights. What every makes you think they won't confess to breaking the law? After all that is their modus operandi. :-)

18 hours for a simple search. No wonder they seem to get very little done when they are so inefficient. Wonder how many hours and how much it cost to put together that response including estimating time and effort.

@Nickle314

9 ай бұрын

I bet they use the same systems as other police forces, if not the same system. As such it does show lazyness or incomptence.

@davidspear9790

6 ай бұрын

I thought all force's databases were linked, thus the name for it being the PNC.

I remember watching films of W.W.2 where Germans were using surveillance vans with an aerial on top looking for the French Resistance listening and broadcasting messages

@lifesagamesobeawinner

9 ай бұрын

"Our vans are in your area, do you have a TV licence" ?😂

@RadioJonophone

9 ай бұрын

Those vans, with swivelling loop aerials, were used to triangulate the position of transmitters. However much people blether on about local oscillators in heterodyne receivers and intermediate frequencies, a TV is not a transmitter. The local oscillator and IF of a receiver are not detectable over more than a few feet at best. The TV Detector Vans, where they existed, were a propaganda measure designed to frighten the public. There was no technology inside that could detect your TV.

@jimwhiteing3437

9 ай бұрын

@@RadioJonophone another familiar fear device used by the fearsome nazis

@jimwhiteing3437

9 ай бұрын

@@lifesagamesobeawinner exactly

I've not watched or recorded any TV for over 8 years. I went through a process of registering, thinking that was the best thing to do at the time, that I had no TV and didn;t require a licence. I never received any visit to check but they still sent harrassing and scary looking letters. Now I don't bother interacting with them at all. What's the point when their own system doesn't even work? Not even after an official complaint.

Our don't go to the door let them knock

You should send an FOI request to Norfolk police to find out how many FOIs they'd answered with the information, and how many they'd turned down because of the £450 thing!

@anonnemo2504

9 ай бұрын

Police forces who say they cannot meet this particular request under the Freedom of Information Act because it would cost more than £450 to do so are lying. A simple database query would provide the answer to the question in seconds and probably cost less than £4.50, including letter preparation and postage charges. They do this to discourage further FOI requests from the same individual.

cheers...a great post...close the door and never let them in...

I have said this before, as have others. Thanks for what you do, 👍❤

Great video Jon. It’s strange that some police forces can provide data but others can’t due to costs!!! When it benefits them, then money is probably not an issue. Many thanks for sharing with us and take care. You always provide useful, up-to-date information for us 👍👍👍

Great vlog Chilli, thanks

Thankyou for your great videos. Licence free for 2 years,just got a letter saying i had been watching i-player,this is just before my 2 year declaration that i didnot need a licence,i have deleted my bbc app on my television which i had logged in to i-player. I had a few e-mails from them but blocked their e-mails so i can expect a few letters and maybe a visit.

It's not rocket science. If you get a knock open your door ask who they are DON'T IDENTIFY YOURSELF TO THEM. if they refuse to identify themselves shut the door. If they do identify themselves shut the door DO NOT TALK TO THEM. The reason I say open the door is because I won't live in fear of opening my own door. If you really are scared of opening the door to them don't open the door either ask who they are through the letter box or through a window. But don't talk anymore. They are not your friends.

I'm well aware that their threats are empty but what irks me is the fact that people live in fear of them. Their tactics basically amount to intimidation and fear and it's the more vulnerable in society that fall prey to that. When I wanted to cancel my license because I was moving house and leaving the TV they wanted a letter from my land lord as proof before they'd stop the taking the direct debit so I just canceled it through my bank. I'm sure there are a lot of people out there who only have a TV because they're paying the license fee and never really bother to actively watch it. I was in that camp for a long time until I moved house and gifted my TV to the next occupants

Superb video. This should put minds at ease that are thinking of cancelling. There is nothing to fear but fear itself. Get cancelling and get saving people. Stop paying for something if you no longer need it 👍

Thanks

@ChilliJonCarne

9 ай бұрын

You really didnt have to do that, thank you so much

@tillycat8690

9 ай бұрын

Very grateful for all your advice and glad to be free of the ridiculous license

@brimkathstampex2306

9 ай бұрын

So can you please confirm that you do not watch any programs on TV that would otherwise require a TV Licence?@@tillycat8690

Great info John, I cancelled my tv license over 3 years ago and I’ve been receiving letters for the last year. The latest one I received today was from Scott robson of Cambridge enforcement. The main title of the letter read “official notice” saying I was apparently in breach of the communications act 2003 🤣 I know I’m in the right to ignore these letters as I don’t watch tv and don’t have a tv set up anywhere in the property so I’ll continue to let them waste their time and money!

Who pays for the police service to attend the so-called TV goons, it can't be free.

Norfolk Police need to get grip of their finances, how can that search cost over £450

Nice one CJ, keep it up.

I got a letter the other day with a big red naughty X prominent on a brown envelope. Upon opening it it said we need to hear from you by a certain date or my adress will be treated as unlicensed. In big bold font. If you ignore this letter your address will be treated as unlicensed. This means that we may have to open an investigation and schedule a visit to your address (basically like someone saying comply or we send the boys round, well that's how I took it) we will also continue writing to you. Just wow, shocking and unnerving. I called them and Informed them I had no need for a licence and got it confirmed on an automated line so they should not be bothering me again for 2 years.

The police forces that said it was too expensive probably don't have good record keeping. If you don't tag the cases as "TV Licencing" when you enter them, it's very difficult to then find them when you want stats. I suspect they dropped the 'e' so it could match "license" and "licensing". They missed that the noun is spelt with a c, though...

The only time I have had a visit was years ago at a previous address. It was my fault, I notified them I didn't need one. The lesson I learned was don't engage with them.

Here in Norfolk we are still using Microfiche for data storage

"Don't kick off". Great advice. As much as you want to give these goons a mouthful when they call, they are NOT BBC employees (even though Capita are contracted by the BBC), and all that being abusive will do, is to ensure another visit. As CJC says, just say "no thanks" and shut the door. Don't go off about how unpatriotic the BBC is,or how many paedos they employed, just treat them as you would anyone selling stuff door-to-door. "No thanks, goodbye." And if you are watching live TV without a licence, mute the TV or switch it off or pause it before answering the door at ANY time. If they can see or hear the TV, that MIGHT be grounds for further action. And do not under any circumstances let them in! "I just need to check your equipment". Apart from "oo-er missus",they do not NEED to do anything of the sort. They want to, but have no power to do so and don't let them in. If they were selling encyclopedias (showing my age now!), you wouldn't let them in to prove you have a set of encylopedias! You do not have to prove anything to these goons.

Thats why im glad there are people like u letting people no u can have a tv as long as u dont watch live tv just buy a fire stick watch you tube thank you for u 😊

Shared on my fb thanks

The police act as though it is they who receive the commission rather than the TVL goons.

Best advice, treat them like Jehovahs witnesses. That should work 😂

@76meko

9 ай бұрын

😂

@iamrocketray

9 ай бұрын

I talk to the God Squad, I try to convert them to paganism or Sun Worship, They never come back even when I invite them to 😁😁😁😁😁😁😎😎

Would it be better to abolish the £4 billion a year BBC TV licence income and give it to the NHS?

@bernardm2312

9 ай бұрын

I would say yes if the money went to where it's most needed. I dread to think about how much money is lost through fraud, inefficiency and paying an ever growing army of managers and secretaries.

@brimkathstampex2306

9 ай бұрын

Yes, the NHS is riddled from top to bottom with pointless grossly overpaid managers doing next to nothing except manage.@@bernardm2312

@Thurgosh_OG

9 ай бұрын

@@bernardm2312 Agreed, the NHS needs to be fully nationalised again.

@MikeEves

9 ай бұрын

It already is abolished, at my house anyway

I've been license free since 2018. Made the declaration the first time did it the second time then started getting letters in 2020 threatening a visit. Still not had a visit.

If no crime has been committed, the police can do one as well.

@MikeEves

9 ай бұрын

Spot on

Hi ChiliJon You may be interesting in the situation in Ireland (Republic of) regarding RTE and the TV licence and possibility of a tax. I have just watched a KZread video titled as: Reforming the TV Licence Fee Instead of RTÉ? | The Millennial Cynic

Why should the government or police have a right to enforce anything in the first place for private company on its policies, the courts should not be allowed to grant a search warrant i either it’s a disgrace.

I cancelled mine December 2022 and had three letters but zero visits. If they ever did I would simple tell them I’m not interested in the intercom (live in a flat).

Ye good few years ago they did come with a police man they didn't call them they came with them.

@brimkathstampex2306

9 ай бұрын

And????????????

It’s about time that television set manufacturers have to let you delete all apps as some (such as BBC iplayer) usually factory installed are not possible to delete.

@iamrocketray

9 ай бұрын

Having the app(BBC Iplayer) on your TV set or mobile Phone or Tablet is NOT an offence! it only becomes an offence IF YOU WATCH IT. So stop worrying about it😁😁

@DeeCee-nb6ev

9 ай бұрын

@@iamrocketray am not worried about it, not used iplayer or similar app for probably at least five years. What i dont like is that tv set manufacturers should not by default install an app (even their own) and then make it impossible to remove. It would not surprise me if the BBC payed Samsung, Sony, etc to install them.

@Thurgosh_OG

9 ай бұрын

The TV manufacturers get a payment for adding them in, so that is costing the beeb. However there should alway be a means of deleting unwanted apps because they take up memory, you've paid for.

@AnalogueInTheUK

9 ай бұрын

Set the region to Eire, France, Canada , etc. if possible. The shiteplayer will magically disappear.

Just a general question if I may, what time of the day is a goon most likely to turn up, I'd imagin evenings when folk are home from work? Or can it be any hour? I'm retired but want to be vigilant and ready with my lines.. ?

I’d report Norfolk Police to ICO for failure to respond to the FOIA Request !!

Submitted my no license needed form 2 years ago and not had a single letter or visit. 👍

@MikeEves

9 ай бұрын

Make sure you do your no firearm licence needed too

Police help the goons but when you mention the harassment act. ( 3 letters is harassment) the police don't bother

Even if a bailiff has a court warrant it can have no lawful effect unless you allow access. Read the criminal law act 1977 section 6. You need to know the difference between legal and lawful . Once you know this you will realise "That even the King of England cannot force entry to your home." Wake up.

@Thurgosh_OG

9 ай бұрын

BBB, Black Belt Barrister has already done a video on court warrants and you are wrong. However, as the only way for TVL to get 'evidence' for a warrant is to speak to them. Not contact, no warrant.

@johntimbrell

9 ай бұрын

@@Thurgosh_OG BBB has a first sworn duty to the court. He therefore has to say what he is told to. I have twice stopped police using such warrants by using the Criminal law Act 1977 section 6.This like the Bill of Rights Act 1688/9 repeats the common law and stated cases. Learn the real law. A court warrant is a legal warrant. We have a lawful right to defend our property from all comers. So I believe that I am right because I have put the real law into practice. Dan Smith will not respond to me because he also knows the law. The real law. It's people like you who allow our freedoms to be taken away because you believe what such as Dan tells you without learning the real law. Wake up.

The police where l live don't even come out to drug dealing.

They can only enter if you let them in so they are like vampires in that respect

Thank you so much for helping me and others. I was paying a TV licence and only used my TV for netflix KZread and playing games. Have you done a request to Avon and Somerset police?

Why are WE subsidizing the work and time of the Police to help the Goons bother us ?

@spm36

9 ай бұрын

It's for potential breach of the peace only no aiding...have you listened?

@brianlopez8855

9 ай бұрын

"only no aiding..." ? Is this English ? Me no understand@@spm36

Well done for correct spelling of "licence", Chilli!

@Thurgosh_OG

9 ай бұрын

Only US Americans spell it the other way.

keep a fishing rod and a little tackle by the front door to show them. I didn't get my fishing license this year, as I didn't need one, and wasn't gonna go this year. Do they have their fishing license? Fishin for commision.

So next time the police ask any viewers for information just tell them it will cost £450, once thay have paid it say 'I searched my memory but could find no relevent information'.

when u open your door say nothing at all.. tv license will either ask if you are ....mr/mrs or identify themselves and then ask. either way still say nothing and close your door in their face.. they cannot consider you "under caution" until you either confirm your name or otherwise acknowledge them.. done same many times now (great when you have a housefull) and never any further action bar "we hate you" letters

The common denominator here is the term 'Goon'. Given today's British police i say the term applies to both these groups. The fact that we have seen endless videos where the police are escorting these fellow goons makes the point somewhat moot .

They certainly don't hinder them and it gives them confidence they wouldn't other wise have. So yes in a psychological way they do.

Just thinking out loud... Scenario: On a previous visit something 'kicked off'. Now, a return visit is planned (not with a warrant) just another attempt to sell a TV licence. What justification would there be for police to even agree to attend 'to prevent a breach of the peace'? As the unsolicited presence of the TV licence salesman at someone's door had PREVIOUSLY resulted in strong words then, surely, THEIR proposed return to that address would be considered to be a deliberate antagonistic act and the police should tell them not to visit that address as they are clearly not welcome there. Furthermore, they should be told that any subsequent unsolicited visit (absent a warrant) would actually be deemed to be the 'behaviour likely to cause a breach of the peace' and that they could face charges.

@Thurgosh_OG

9 ай бұрын

That would work of the Police used common sense but, well, the police today and common sense don't mix very well.

@shropshirelassuk7062

9 ай бұрын

@@Thurgosh_OG Good point.

Probably yeah. They don't seem to PROTECT AND SERVE THE PUBLIC.

Their new tack is to accuse you of watching IPlayer on your computer!

@nicadair7700

9 ай бұрын

You log in to a different email not using your own name. In theory they could track your i.p address but that would only be traced to the modem not the computer itself. If you have your WiFi on with no password anybody in the neighbourhood could be using it. But fear not they are not allowed to do this, so as always, answer the door, when identified as a TV goon shut the door immediately, NEVER COMMUNICATE 😊

Great video, just be nice.

i have not had a visit in the 12 yrs since i moved and whent licence free. i was licence free about 20 yrs ago, didnt even have a tv for gaming, so i showed them, never got hastled. i think they had a genuine non watcher box they could tick

Help plz do you by law have to fill that no license form in …😮

The Knock

I had a visit yesterday from a woman with square panel on chest with capita emblem on I shouted at closed window omg a police woman she tripped on my step so when I opened door she said tv licence I said no thanks then shut door 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

I cant think of any reason police would attend, do they work for other businesses doing door to door sales?

leicester and norfork police cost £450 for freedom of information requests ask for a pay ment but by tax paying

But Jon be fare to the police, they are all working from home now, they are certainly not out in the streets.

You forgot Hampshire and Dorset

@mercedesblack7828

9 ай бұрын

You'd think police had better things to do such as solve the murder of Jill Dando...

@Thurgosh_OG

9 ай бұрын

Has he covered Berkshire and Oxfordshire yet?

I've always wondered when I went on the BBC iplayer app I had to download it to the ps4, it asks you to agree to certain conditions such as ip address, can they not find out with your ip address if you have a TV licence at that address? Cheers Jon, 😊

@Thurgosh_OG

9 ай бұрын

No because you can use a VP, even via a console, so an IP is not (spy agencies aside) a means to locating someone. Also you need to be a member to use iplayer and can use false details for that too. How would they connect that to an individual?

What is the purpose of getting a warrant? It can only be to see that you have a TV and that at the time it is on and being used illegally. 99% of the time the screen will be blank, TV off, of zero evidential value.

Norfolk police response, Norfolking good