To make it absolutely clear I am talking about the Odin Pro. The Odin Lite is a great value handheld that is well worth the price even in 2023. The Odin Pro however is not worth the money anymore against the competition, even from the Lite.

@albertodominguez7203

8 ай бұрын

And de ayn loki zero??

@ReddenDoom

6 ай бұрын

What if the pro and lite were the same price as they currently are?

@michaelscrilla125

6 ай бұрын

​@@ReddenDoomI can't get the purchase to go through on the site.. this is supposedly an issue I've heard, but I'm not trying to spend an extra $100 somewhere else.

@GamerPro-he1dq

5 күн бұрын

also, one thing I don’t care yeah I have the best phone in the world. I know that it’s powerful but gaming on it. It’s kind of stupid because it’s too tiny. I want a bigger screen and also I’m looking for something that I can replace my Nintendo switch with because I really don’t care that much about the Nintendo switch anymore. The hype died down a long time ago let alone I don’t know. I just stop playing my switch. I guess cause I get bored of playing switch games but this is also in 4K graphics. I looked at the specs of it. You ain’t gonna get 4K even on a powerful gaming phone is because you need a wide screen for 4K or if you get like a super stretched screen like the Samsung galaxy s24 series it goes up to 4K 1080 because it’s stretched you get a screen like an iPad. It won’t be that way and personally I am a type of gamer who likes the best graphics. Also, I’m a type of gamer that only plays really G for us now that was a pun and true. I only played GeForce now. I don’t play anything else. The reason why is because everything’s on GeForce but I also wanna try to get into retro gaming because I like the old style of games I just never knew how to do an emulator until I watch videos on it and I was like looking for an android handheld

Not a single point justifies the click bait title, sorry.

@KevinLYT1

Жыл бұрын

This video was such a bad take too lolol

@terribletimes902

Жыл бұрын

Especially when you consider the Odin Lite only $50 more than the RP3+ is still superior in every way

@michaelramirez4864

Жыл бұрын

@@terribletimes902 wtf how?

@terribletimes902

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelramirez4864 Dimensity 900 is not that different from SD 845 in terms of emulation performance, and still way better than the chip in the RP3+

@daliodis3153

Жыл бұрын

@@terribletimes902 So the Odin lite is better than the Retro Pocket 3+ or the RG505?

“The difference was only 10-15 fps.” That’s pretty significant. Considering there are some games where the speed of the game is tied to the frame rate, performance matters. There are better systems on the horizon, but the Odin is superior in every way to the RP3+ and RG505.

@ChronikSpartan

Жыл бұрын

It's not enough of a difference for me considering the price jump

@bigcrashg

Жыл бұрын

@@ChronikSpartan lol bro the AYN ODIN is a beast. I have the rp3 plus and the 505 they cant even compare

@TyrannicToe56

Жыл бұрын

@@ChronikSpartan Bro 10-15 fps is a life and death difference to many of us gamers lmao,, especially for games running at 60 fps. If it doesn't seem like a significant difference to you something is clearly wrong with your perception.

@goovindnarula6470

Жыл бұрын

@@ChronikSpartan probably should have compared to the odin lite as well considering that's the one that's really competing with the other two devices here

@armyofninjas9055

11 ай бұрын

Odin is too damn big. I have a pro.

LMAO "Odin had ONLY 10 to 15 extra FPS" Like, that's A DAMN LOT

@ChronikSpartan

Жыл бұрын

Not for the price

@SwampySi

Жыл бұрын

@@ChronikSpartan totally disagree. well worth the price for 15 fps more.

Some other emulators to factor in are 3DS, Vita, and low to mid-end Switch titles. My Odin can comfortably run games like Hades on eggns, it can run Majoras Mask 3Ds remastered with 1080p texture packs, and even Mario Sunshine with a 60fps 1080p mod. I'm really looking forward to Vita emulation as well!

@megajago990

Жыл бұрын

How are you running hades

@PhoenixWrongSSB

Жыл бұрын

@@megajago990 Unfortunately with EggNS, but there is also supposed to be a Skyline patch that is specifically made to run Hades (released over the past week at some point)

@ChronikSpartan

Жыл бұрын

My main point, is it's not that the Odin is not good, it's that at the current price point in the current market it's not worth it in my opinion

@PhoenixWrongSSB

Жыл бұрын

@@ChronikSpartan Right, I get that. I mean to say that I wouldn't place the Odin in the same market as the consoles you list in this video. Those other consoles don't meet the threshold required to run the games listed in my original comment, nor can they do 60fps mods / 1080p texture packs for gamecube / ps2 / 3ds. These aren't really marginal differences in my opinion. You actually do get a lot from the jump from RP3+ to Odin.

@TheSkyfolk

Жыл бұрын

@@ChronikSpartan The problem with your point is that you were only comparing the Odin to things the cheaper consoles could run, when the Odin can run things they can't handle at all.

Just get an Odin Lite. Also, without analog triggers the Retroid Pocket 3+ is not even in the conversation for many

wtf, bad take hilarious. The system is a bit pricey but is absolutely incredible. You can get it now, it is more powerful than practically anything else with a long battery life, fantastic 1080p screen, windows capabilities if people care about tinkering a dual boot, and everything runs smoothly if you come into this with an informed mindset. It's nice to play something without worrying, which is what you will have with an RP3+. Perhaps you will see some outliers, but I've had my Odin for about an entire year now and its going strong. Being totally serious, I'm unsure if you had things set up correctly (ex, performance modes, which firmware, etc).

if the next iteration of the retroid or the anbernic adds analog triggers, they'll be even more difficult to beat in this price range

@alecmolina3005

Жыл бұрын

They already added hall triggers to the rp3+

@thomaschipman

Жыл бұрын

the rp3+ does not have hall triggers. although they launched hall analog sticks today as a DIY upgrade, which is great, i wouldn't expect to see hall options for the triggers until the next product release. hopefully the rp4 will have them.

Most people get Odin Lite 4+64G for $199 not Odin Pro 8+128G, which is now obsolete from the Ayn Website. Odin lite definitely runs better than RP 3+

What about Ayn Odin Lite? I'm looking at getting either that for the RP3+

I was looking for a handheld console to play gamecube games on (mostly Wind Waker and Twilight Princess) and was about to buy a RP3+. But after seeing some footage of these games running on the Retroid, even constant 25 fps feel like garbage. Specially when the speed of these games is tied to the frame rate. It doesnt just affect the Video, but the music and gameplay itself. And ngl this video convinced me to buy an Odin lol. I understand what you mean by "only 10-15 fps more for an extra 100€", but these frames really matter in these games. :)

@ChronikSpartan

Жыл бұрын

That's brilliant mate, my opinion is not to put you off buying an Odin, it's just to share my perspective, and if that's helped you buy one then perfect!

I think it depends on what you want it for, a big reason I got mine is to do things on that you can only do on windows and having the 845? Make it possible to put windows on it and have it dual booted

@ChronikSpartan

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it definitely has its use case, it's just not as clear a purchase as it used to be for me

Ayn Odin Lite at 199/6Gb128 for 213 or the Odin Base at 215 ? Or should I go for the Retroid Pocket 3 plus metal edition ?

@a7c777

11 ай бұрын

AYN Lite> RP3+ > AYN Pro in terms of objective value. But if you plan on MOSTLY playing PS2/gamecube, Ayn Odin Pro is your best bet. The new AYN Loki also might be comparable depending on your needs. But RP3+ is great if you mostly just care about some PSP, PS1, and below for the value. AYN needs a teensy bit more setup effort than the RP3+ but thats about it. Either way, you wont have a bad time with AYN Odin, anbernic, or RP3+ if retro emulation is your number one gaming priority.

Technically I bought mine in 2022, but in all honesty I’m pretty satisfied with my purchase despite spending more than $300 including shipping. My only complaints with the device I had was one of the trigger buttons didn’t have quite as much travel as the other(at least thats what it felt like to me), and there is some screen tearing that goes on whenever I scroll up and down a web page in google chrome, but thankfully I’ve never seen that in any of the games I’ve emulated or any android games like Genshin Impact. It’s also nice to play games at 1080p whenever you can and the cooling fan and battery life is huge plus for me. It’s likely there might be better android devices this year but unless there’s anything truly groundbreaking, I’m pretty content with the devices I already own

@DeadVoivod

Жыл бұрын

So I'm not the only one. I also have that screen tearing when scrolling in Chrome but like you mentioned not existing while in any emulation. Plus I like the slightly bigger screen of the Odin. Anyways, waiting for the Loki Max to get shipped eventually.

@flare0152

Жыл бұрын

@@DeadVoivod I’m actually relieved to see it’s not just mine that acts up there. I’m not even sure how to fix that but I know it has something to do with the refresh rate which can sometimes go a little under to a little over the advertised 60hz, but it’s fine since most owners aren’t using it for web browsing anyway. I heard the loki max will be a pretty powerful windows pc, though I’m more curious about the price to performance. I heard there’s also another handheld called the Pimax Portal that’s supposedly even more powerful than the odin with a snapdragon 8 gen 1 cpu and can even come with a switch style dock

@ryanscottwright

Жыл бұрын

There's always something better

@spaderecords101

Жыл бұрын

idk if you're still experiencing the screen tearing issue but i thought i might let you know how you can "fix" it. the issue is caused when the video output mode is set to the mini hdmi on the top of the device. Changing the video out mode to usb-c fixes the screen tearing, at least thats how it works on my device

@DeadVoivod

Жыл бұрын

@@spaderecords101 Thank you so much man, that was exactly the problem 👊👏

Does anyone know if the Retroid pocket 3+ or the Oden lineup will play WWE games like SmackDown versus raw or here comes the pain for PlayStation 2??

The one thing I really want to know, which I haven't been able to find a GOOD comparison on is the Retroid Pocket 3+'s size to the Odin Pro. I mainly want one (of either) for PS2 and 3DS emulation but I don't want something huge. Preferably I wanna get the Pro but idk how big it is. I want something thats pocket sized and the 3+ is that forsure. Can anyone tell me how much bigger the Pro is?

@ChronikSpartan

Жыл бұрын

The Odin is more along the size of the standard Switch (not OLED) but slightly narrower and more streamlined.

@clausjahnel5379

Жыл бұрын

Sorry, also this is simply not true. ALL Odins are by far smaller than the standard Switch. Plis, they have ergonomics.

10-15 frames per second is a huge difference and easily one that justifies an extra £100 if you don't want shit, distracting frame rates on later gen emulation. There is a world of difference between struggling to maintain 48 frames and easily churning out 60fps. Not many exceptions (granted time spliters 2 being one if the literal few)

@grummer8825

Жыл бұрын

Just thought I should point out that Timesplitters 2 runs @ solid 60fps on the Odin Pro when using the MMJR Dolphin app.

@nolo1337

Жыл бұрын

i mean lets do the math here 160 base model + screen protector, then lets say about 20 bucks for shipping so at the point of dropping all that cash, spend 80 more 2 more gigs of ram and a bigger screen bigger battery and the standard storeage space is 64 gigs so the odin lite would win out

@sursidejr

11 ай бұрын

yeah but keep in mind he has the steam deck, he is saying for his needs anbernic or RP3 is enough, also they are more easy to carry arround, if he wants more power just go with the steamdeck, wich is not really as portable as the last 2, and way more powerful than the odin. I mean yeah it is a good device, but between the first 2 portability and the power of a steamdeck there is no much going for the odin.

@nawaspj7122

11 ай бұрын

Right! 15 more fps is a huge boost to me. Especially for action games.

@nawaspj7122

11 ай бұрын

Ok, the portability factor is a good point. If someone had the Deck an Odin might be redundant. I love my Steam Deck and look forward to next years devices!

How are the speaker qualities? Does Odin have better speakers than RP3+?

@ChronikSpartan

Жыл бұрын

Speakers are good and definitely better than RP3+.

I been debating about getting android gaming handheld like odin, retroid pocket, or powkiddy. I dont know anything about emulation so not sure where to find good roms i can get or what emulator apps i can download. I own switch oled and switch lite that i share with brother and love them. But their are times i wonder if i should get android gaming device. Some say use my phone but i dont really like gaming on it, especailly with touch screen unless one those really simple ones every now against like bubble bash, angry birds, and garden scape but even then not often.

@ChronikSpartan

11 ай бұрын

Start playing around with you phone, not with the intent of it being your full time gaming handheld but to understand emulation and if you like Android as an emulation device. There are lot of websites that show you how easy it is to deal with roms and emulators. A good place to start with a cheap android handheld would be the Retroid Pocket 2S. Odin is a bit expensive and Powkiddy are not great in my experience.

For me, my RP3 plus is for my N64 games and down. And will be purchasing another handheld for GameCube/PS2/Wii, hopefully the next Ayn iteration.

Thanks for the information. I've been stuck between going for a cheaper option with RP3+ and stronger one with Odin Pro. The biggest thing was price, because if I could get an Odin Pro, I could get the base Steam Deck at that price point. In all aspects but price, I think Odin Pro is better. Screen resolution, button/stick layout, looks, ergonomics, etc. But it's not gonna beat a Steam Deck (except screen resolution). So I'm gonna get a RP3+ and I hope Valve releases a newer version of the Steam Deck with a 1080p screen and maybe different button/stick layout. Or maybe I'll go all out and get a GPD Win 4.

@nathanbreakin9684

Жыл бұрын

RP3+ and RG505 screens are a tad small for 4:3 2D gaming...

@KyleRuggles

Жыл бұрын

@@nathanbreakin9684 It's a tad small, true. I got the RP3+ and the Odin base from last year in March. I love the RP3+ cuz I can actually put it in my pocket and forget that it's there, it can do quite a bit of gamecube at native and sometimes 2x, not the best at wii and so so for ps2. Odin is still a better overall system especially with analog shoulder buttons for us racing fans and the m buttons on the back which pretty much got rid of my need to touch the screen ever with macros outside of games and apps. The RP3+ is a GREAT device. I think later this year will be great for new handhelds.

@Medachod

Жыл бұрын

Eh, resolution on those tiny screens means nothing. 720 is just better performance and battery. You want 1080 for a tablet.

@nathanbreakin9684

Жыл бұрын

@@KyleRuggles Have you seen the Android TV boxes that use the Rockchip RK3588? That chip is quite powerful and should beat the Odin Pro. I'd be interested to see if that gets used in a handheld!

@xBINARYGODx

Жыл бұрын

you can get an Odin Pro form over $100 cheapr than a deck.

Hang on just saw more of your video.. What are you on about? The RP3+ has an 8 core processor with Mali GPU at 2GHZ.. the SD845 slams it at 2.84ghz as well as having an adreno GPU, and it runs particularly well the way it is set up in the Odin Pro. Anbernic with Tiger 618 is shit. Sorry.

how odin lite goes vs these ? with 200$ price

I have rp3+ and the main thing I don’t like about it has to be the analog placement. I feel like theyre far too low and I don’t enjoy playing any fps games on it. Other than that, it’s great. Does the Odins analogs feel better?

@liambowers9489

Жыл бұрын

The Odin analogs are exactly the same. Don’t forget you can just plug your rp3+ into a tv and use a Bluetooth controller.

@Yawp_

Жыл бұрын

@@liambowers9489 thanks for the info

@ChronikSpartan

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I agree about the left analogue placement. Not very comfy long term

I have ordered the Odin 2 Pro just two days ago after just watching this video, and I will admit, I am totally new to android and retro gaming so this will be a first for me. After seeing this video do you still think it was a mistake and maybe a little to hard to get this working for a retro gaming device? Any suggestions I would appreciate it.

@ChronikSpartan

8 ай бұрын

Honestly I think you've made a great purchase. The Odin 2 is a huge improvement. My issues with the old Odin Pro was it wasn't that competitive for the price/power ratio. As for Android devices, they might not be as quick to jump into as a Linux handheld, but they're still very user friendly! Enjoy your new toy buddy 😉

I have all three systems. The Retroid Pocket 3+ and Rg505 are great, but gamecube and PS2 don‘t run well on them. It‘s playable but not great. On the Ayn Odin Gamecube and PS2 works great without problems. Also 10-15 fps are a huge difference.

It's like saying you do not need BMW because you have Toyota?! Products exists at different price points with differentiation. Buy what you want at the price point you can.

@ChronikSpartan

Жыл бұрын

My main point, is it's not that the Odin is not good, it's that at the current price point in the current market it's not worth it in my opinion Anyway I'd buy Toyota over BMW any day despite price 😂

any updates released on the Odin after this video was made? so., you have only played Timesplitters 2 on all of these devices?..or what other games runs better than Odin ? what about ergonomics?

@ChronikSpartan

2 ай бұрын

Feel free to check out the other videos on my channel which cover all of that 👍

Do you realise how massive 10 to 15 FPS is when you are emulating retro consoles? It's HUGE.

@himotoma

Жыл бұрын

as long as its over 30fps

@brianh7302

Жыл бұрын

@@himotoma Problem is, most of the time when emulating, if you are below the framerate you are supposed to be, there is slow down. So if you are playing a game thats meant to be played at 60fps and you are getting around like 40 to 50, then it will be like you are playing in slowmotion.

@ToeCutter0

Жыл бұрын

@@brianh7302 Not most of or even part of the time? Unless you’re talking some older 8 bit or 16 bit emulators , but who needs Odin to run those?

@brianh7302

Жыл бұрын

@@ToeCutter0 Ah, okay. I think I dealt with slowdown with Aethersx2 but maybe that wasn't framerate related. Could have been a little less condescending though, friend.

@ToeCutter0

Жыл бұрын

@@brianh7302 Oh? Apologies then. No disrespect intended, just replying to A LOT of comments.

The dock is another good point for the Odin with the retro connections for GameCube and n64. All depends on what you want it for, I still use a gpd XD (non -) as it runs what I want and is hand for some android games too

@ChronikSpartan

Жыл бұрын

Good point

The Odin is still so much more premium feeling than the current recommendations in this video. Can't take this seriously.

@ChronikSpartan

11 ай бұрын

Yep Odin Lite, definitely worth it. Odin Pro is a waste of money though

Well, it's 2024 and the Odin Pro and Lite are now $200 each. Both are fantastic deals and well worth their asking prices. I just bought a Pro last week and it rocks...almost. I do hate the tiny joysticks and I'm not too familiar with setting up emulation from scratch, but I'm (slowly) learning. Glad Ayn is keeping these around despite the Odin 2 being the newer kid on the block, they are for most folks all they'll ever need, same as for the last two plus years.

@ChronikSpartan

5 ай бұрын

You're totally right, the adjusted price has definitely nullified my argument 😅

idk about others, but here within asia, odin is actually readily available now in our online markets. however, a 100usd more and you'll have the base steamdeck already which is already in our shores. 3 to 4 days and you'll have it compared to 1 or 2 weeks for the odin. in that respect, it's not worth it.

Can you test it against the Odin Lite?

@ChronikSpartan

Жыл бұрын

I don't have it anymore unfortunately

For your information I just brought mine and waiting for delivery. What are you going to do about it? 😂

@ChronikSpartan

Жыл бұрын

Give you kudos because it's still an awesome device 😉

Odin Pro went on sale towards the end of 2023 for $199 from AYN website and currently $220 on Amazon.

@ChronikSpartan

6 ай бұрын

Fair enough, but I'd personally spend a bit more for Odin 2

I keep saying this tech gets better and better so it's hard to justify buying any of them when in a few months to a year a cheaper equivalent or a better one at the same price comes out. I also don't have a commute so it's hard to justify something I won't play very often when I already have emulator power houses at home like the Wii U and Series X.

@ChronikSpartan

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it's an incredibly fast moving market! It's hard as a consumer to keep up, must be crazy for the manufacturers to!

@shecklesmack9563

Жыл бұрын

It’s probably best to not have a “gotta have the latest thing” mentality in this space. For example, once say, Retroid releases something that can perfectly handle PS2/GameCube, and as long it doesn’t have any issues, any further iterations would be irrelevant to me. Hell, if you’re someone who only cares about playing through PS1 a theoretical Retroid Pocket 8+ should hold little to no value to you over, say, a RP2+. I currently have an RP3+, and if the RP4 doesn’t deliver perfected PS2/GC then I’m not interested.

@elemkay5104

Жыл бұрын

@@ChronikSpartan Have you updated the AetherSX2 on your Ayn Odin since you bought it? Someone else made a mistake thinking the RP3 was miles better than the RP2+, but then it turned out to be the fact that the 2+ was running an earlier version. There have been massive performance gains in the past year or so. I bought both the Odin and RP3+ so I could try both for myself and see. I was hoping the RP3+ would be enough, but it's uncomfortable in my hands compared with the body shape of the Odin, which I could use for hours. I'm hoping the grip that they're about to release will solve that, otherwise I'll have to sell the RP3+ on.

Which games run better? Can you say names? Also can Ayn Odin play N64 wrestling games like no mercy?

@ChronikSpartan

9 ай бұрын

Timesplitters 2

I just want a handheld emulator that can run PS2 games at 720p or higher, and reach 48-60fps if I wanna mess with the framerate. Only Post-PS2 era game I'd play on a Handheld, would probably be Metal Gear Solid 4, or No More Heroes 1-2. I have no real interest on Switch games either. *Would this then be a decent pick for a portable handheld ? ? ?*

@a7c777

11 ай бұрын

The AYN Odin lite is great. This author is a “casual gamer” by self admission, so PS2 emulation isnt really the mainstay. No more heroes is a wii console game. But if youre talking JUST a cheap PS2 alternative, the AYN Odin plays MOST ps2 games pretty well. Worst case scenario, youd notice issues with 20/30% of fames on PS2. So with that, id say its a great console. But if you NEED to play wii games like no more heroes, youd need something more expensive than an AYN Odin like a Steam Deck. But you could get the best of both worlds by getting a nintendo switch for No more heroes, and an AYN Odin Pro for most ps2 games AND you could literally go to a pawn shop and pick up a wii that you could hack with the money that it costs to buy a Steam Deck. Not to mention the nintendo switch is a REALLY good console worth buying. Nintendo has a lot of exclusives so youll stay in the loop. That’d be my personal move anyway but its your money at the end of the day.

I think it's still a great priced item especially since it's on gone on sale a few times. When looking at it as purely just retro gaming sure there is other products that can be just as good at a better price. But the with this device you can play some great android games that just either won't natively run on those other devices or not well enough. It also has the power to upscale and AA games that typically those cheaper devices again may not be able too. I know for myself I could see myself buying one even in 2023 just to play popular titles like Genshin Impact , Cod Mobile or Dead Cells in a more comfortable form then using my phone plus add-ons.

@ChronikSpartan

Жыл бұрын

That's a totally fair take and I can see what you're saying 👍

i use my realme gt neo 2 with Gamesir x2 pro and i like it i have one issue i don't have slot for my sd card so i use my storage phone to play :/

Do you feel the same about the Ayn Odin Lite?

@ChronikSpartan

Жыл бұрын

No I think the Odin Lite is great value for money.

@douglasfowler4961

Жыл бұрын

@@ChronikSpartan Nice, I just got my Odin Lite 2 weeks ago and I feel the same way.

I feel like calling it "irrelevant" is a bit too provocative. I love my RP3+, but if PS2/GC is your primary emulation focus, want a bigger screen or those other features, then the Odin is better. I understand not going for the Pro, but the Lite has on-par performance at a fantastic price. My buddy got an Odin last month specifically to emulate PS2 and he loves it on that big screen - the RP3+ was a bit small for him, and he doesn't have to tweak settings as much as as I do. Out of the box, Odin is better for the majority of games, and easier for a newbie to the hobby. I feel like RP3+ and Steam Deck are a great combo for power users, but for a 1-stop handheld, the Odin is great. That said, I understand your point, and I am glad to see tech get better. Everything in these systems becomes obsolete eventually - but doesn't mean they don't have some sort of value.

@coxxycabee

Жыл бұрын

I actually like the RP3+ form factor better than the Odin's. I would not swap my Odin for one though.. Those start and select button locations on the RP3+ are a joke.

@salitz91

Жыл бұрын

@coxxycabee I do too actually, and while my buddy's Odin is awesome, I definitely prefer the RP3+. I don't really mind the start/select buttons as much as everyone else, maybe I just got used to it. I changed my hotkeys in Retroarch, and have not noticed any inconvenience.

@KyleRuggles

Жыл бұрын

I agree!

@KyleRuggles

Жыл бұрын

@@salitz91 I do prefer the RP3+ for it's portability, I can literally put it in my pocket, but the Odin? It may be big but it's powerful and if you wanna emulate wii games well, the RP3+ isn't a system to get, also for us racing game fans, the lack of analog shoulder buttons is kinda a deal breaker. What I really miss from my Odin on the RP3+ is those M buttons on the back, I use button remapper to launch apps, change brightness, etc with a combination of those M buttons and others. I can only set up macro's using the buttons I have available on the RP3+ and those are pretty much only for gaming, so it's kinda limiting. I can't use a button remapper with it cuz then I lose the ability to use PPSSPP, Redream and Duckstation, button remappers seem to make these apps not be able to use the dpad and analog sticks. Also I can't root the thing compared to the Odin, but that's more for the techies. I don't mind the start/select buttons on the rp3+ I find it actually easier to press since the device is smaller and my index finger is near there anyways, seems more ergonomic to have them at the top then below the abxy buttons, for me.

@sursidejr

11 ай бұрын

yeah but keep in mind he has the steam deck, for emulation you can get enough with the RP3 or anbernic, you get more fps with the odin but its just too big, for that size I'll just use the steamdeck, and the steamdeck is the most powerful handheld device we have.

Also you're comparing the Performance Mode on the Odin to the full operating mode for these other systems.

@ChronikSpartan

Жыл бұрын

Yeah the Pro was running at full speed

I'll buy this device and put my sim card in this device to take my games on the go and online is very cool

@ChronikSpartan

3 ай бұрын

That's really cool to be fair

Bought in 2023 and couldn’t be happier

@ChronikSpartan

Жыл бұрын

That's awesome mate. My main point, is it's not that the Odin is not good, it's that at the current price point in the current market it's not worth it for me

It's close but no cigar, no analog shoulder buttons... for the racing fans... I now got the RP3+ I do use it more often, but if I want 1080p gamecube, ps2 and wii, I prefer the Odin, and 4k video out. The Odin is great if someone wants an all around device, not everyone has multiple systems like you. If you're a tweaker, go for the Odin, if you're not, go for the cheaper systems. Cool video, it's nice to hear different perspectives on the Odin. It's still the Android system to beat, at least until the PiMax comes out.

Retroid Pocket 3+ is too small, gives hand cramps

So it's best to wait because 2023 is gonna be an even better year. :3

@ChronikSpartan

Жыл бұрын

That's what I believe

@numberoneappgames

Жыл бұрын

@@ChronikSpartan With the different configurations of screen to soc's. I can't wait to see a mid tier affordable hand console that can play psp, GameCube, and PSvita with a 6-7 inch display. This is my hope. 💜😭

My gawd its had to keep and eye on the systems, when you swap the all the time between bottom and top screens between Odin etc.

KEY thing you said "which one can i buy and just start playing" is KEY to a casual person i sawa video of all the stuff you have to do on the odin to get in the emulator its like NAH Son, a casual just wants something on there already that works.

@ChronikSpartan

Жыл бұрын

It's very true and there are so many people that want a casual experience

with the advances in Switch emulation with Skyline Edge, the Odin Pro is a real beast.. happily p[lays a Lot of switch games. Hades, cup head, dead cells, Mario kart, burnout, diablo III etc, the list goes on.

cant believe i had subscribed to this channel before

@ChronikSpartan

Жыл бұрын

Haha, we can't all agree bro!

The AYN Odin Pro might be a little overpriced in today’s market, but I would say the Odin Lite is a perfect device between the RP3+ and the Odin pro. Its only 50$ more than the RP3+ and it can play PS2 and GC at the same level as the Pro, so I would recommend that people opt for it rather than getting the similarly powerful Odin Pro.

@ChronikSpartan

11 ай бұрын

Yep, spot on mate, 100%agree with you 👍

@nawaspj7122

11 ай бұрын

So to be clear, is the Lite more powerful than an RP3+? How does the size compare and how is the ease of use?

@albertodominguez7203

8 ай бұрын

Que me dices del ayn loki zero?

was gonna get one of these, but i ended up getting an i7 1195G7 GPD Win 3 for the price of an Odin. i aint complaining.

I agree with the price point, a 845 is pretty dated in 2023 for £300. It's close to that tipping point where you think "should I just save an extra 100-150 quid and get the steam deck" But as others have stated having access to dual boot, a nice screen and half decent battery life is pretty nice for the budget. Personally I just bought a mi 10t secondhand for £100 and a razer kishi. Does a better job and I still have access to dual boot as well as a functioning, decent mid range phone.

@JagMagic

Жыл бұрын

Man I’ve been thinking about getting a phone and a controller for portable gaming, do you emulate or cloud game

@ChronikSpartan

Жыл бұрын

My main point, is it's not that the Odin is not good, it's that at the current price point in the current market it's not worth it in my opinion

@clausjahnel5379

Жыл бұрын

... and that is not true. I would not exchange my Odin for any of these even if you'd give me 100 bucks on top. 🤗

Your tripping are the Odin Pro is the best handheld out right now

I found one on Amazon for $209 (surprisingly it was the odin pro). I'd say that's not bad considering it's the same as the 505 or RP4 pro but with better ergonomics and rgb.

@ChronikSpartan

3 сағат бұрын

That's a great find! To be fair my original take was based on the price last year

i'm in italy and if i wanted to buy an odin (base) i'd have to pay an additional 100€ for shipping and taxes so the cost would get really close to the steam deck, which is a comparison there's no need to make. i like the odin more than the RP3+ not only because of the analog triggers but because it is stronger, you can run wii, switch and overall more games so it's the choice you should make if you're the kind of person that wants everything. but at the end of the day it's true that for the value the retroid is a lot better, if you have money to spend just buy a steam deck and if you already have a steam deck the right choice in my opinion is the RP3+ (not the anbernic, i've done my researches and although being as powerful as the retroid it's not that comfortable for playing)

@ChronikSpartan

Жыл бұрын

Great comment, very well said my friend

I have a Retroid Pocket 2+ and The Odin is a Bad Ass Machine, I recommend the Odin!

@ChronikSpartan

Жыл бұрын

My main point, is it's not that the Odin is not good, it's that at the current price point in the current market it's not worth it in my opinion

I think the only reason to get an Ayn Odin right now is because it can run Windows 11, and its still the cheapest handheld that can run windows well

Weird clickbait title. If you want 6" 1080p, especially for streaming then the Odin Lite absolutely demolishes the RP3+. And it's not at least 100 bucks difference between the two, but more like 50-60 depending on the color.

I have the RG505 and the Ayn Odin Pro and PERSONALLY I prefer the Odin Pro because the RG505 kills my hand holding it.Its very uncomfortable also the Odin Pro has just a little more juice under the hood and it makes a difference

@ChronikSpartan

5 ай бұрын

Definitely if you have both to hand, the Odin Pro is definitely the better choice. I'm just not sure if when thinking of buying if it's worth the extra cost. Having said that prices have changed since I made this video

@3581richard

5 ай бұрын

@@ChronikSpartan having a fan that can give an extra boost when playing really demanding games is definitely worth it.I love the RG505 too but it’s so uncomfortable to hold and that’s the only flaw I see with the anbernic handheld

Great video. I'm wondering where the razer edge stands too at the $399 pricepoint.

I glad it's your opinion. I don't need all them systems you have

@ChronikSpartan

Жыл бұрын

That's totally fair 👍

Dude got a check from anbernic for this vid LOL

@ChronikSpartan

Жыл бұрын

Haha, now that would be nice 😁

So what should I buy?

@ChronikSpartan

Жыл бұрын

If you have the money, Steam Deck, if not RP3+. Or wait a couple of months as lots of great consoles are on the horizon!

Witch ones have support for longer and os updates so they arent paperweights in a few months thats the confusing part 😂

@ChronikSpartan

11 ай бұрын

Yeah that's tricky. TBH Retroid has them most active support I've seen

@sTuPiDiScOoL_

9 ай бұрын

@@ChronikSpartan I pre ordered Odin 2 pro and from reviews I've seen even over past 24 hours looks like going be a beast mate💯💯💚💚👊

@ChronikSpartan

9 ай бұрын

@@sTuPiDiScOoL_ tempted!!

@sTuPiDiScOoL_

9 ай бұрын

@@ChronikSpartan do it brother I'm sure you won't regret it mate 💯💯💚👊

i think they odin still a decent product in the current market, but with the steam deck and the rp3/505 now on the market, it has become a tougher sale. even more so if you own a steam deck, since the smaller devices pair better with the seam deck. i can't really recommend for or against it since i don't own one, but what i can say is that i have really been enjoying my rp3plus. turns out i really do prefer something smaller than the steam deck, so rp3 was a great purchase for me.

@jobearesto9746

Жыл бұрын

To be honest I have a steam deck and a rp 2lpus. Does me fine 🙂

@Frozengimbap

Жыл бұрын

This is my dilemma I love my SteamDeck because aside from the emulation capabilities, I really enjoy playing games like Sekiro in the comfort of my bed. But as for traveling it is just too big for my liking. This is why I’m considering the Odin. The size is just like the Nintendo Switch Lite. Which is perfect. But the $300 price tag is pushing me away. Because I can do whatever the Odin can on the SteamDeck, but better. So I would really just be paying for form factor.

@cine-ish

11 ай бұрын

It shits on both of em

This might be one of the most bizarre opinions I’ve seen this year related to gaming. I’m baffled lol

I my Odin pro just arrived last week so at least I got a good week out of it before i find out it’s irrelevant

@ChronikSpartan

Жыл бұрын

Haha 😅 Obviously it's still a fantastic console, I'm just comparing it price wise to the new competition. Enjoy your new toy buddy!

@Dopebenedict

Жыл бұрын

@@ChronikSpartan thanks man , always a dillema when getting new tech such as these handhelds by the time you have it and set it all up there is something much better on the market

@BrandonNielsen87

Жыл бұрын

I kinda envy you for having it. It’s the look of this handheld that looks so good. This looks like 8th generation Game Gear in some alternate universe.

.....im buying and odin tomorrow. idc what anyone says

@ChronikSpartan

Жыл бұрын

That's the way to be mate! Your own decision is always the best.

@W3LP3RS

Жыл бұрын

@@ChronikSpartan to be completely honest, the AYN Oden Pro has been a great buy in 2023! no remorse yet! AYN still has the bar pretty high for the price point, no one can truly compete still

Not just 10 fps, it’s 6” 1080p screen vs 3.5/4.7/5” lower res.

@ChronikSpartan

Жыл бұрын

My main point, is it's not that the Odin is not good, it's that at the current price point in the current market it's not worth it in my opinion

10-15 fps more, better audio, more screen resolution, better buttons and sticks, better ergonomy, more premium, better software and much better powerfull for only 30 dollars more. The Odin Lite is a god comparing to rp3+ or the bad rg 505

@ChronikSpartan

10 ай бұрын

Odin Lite is awesome, it's the Pro that I think is irrelevant

Could be irrelevant if compare the Odin with the Razer Edge or Pimax Portal but the console you compare it's waker in every aspect

@ChronikSpartan

Жыл бұрын

It's not about if it's generally better, it's if it's worth the extra money now for the small improvements it offers.

I love my odin pro and dont regret its purchase

@ChronikSpartan

11 ай бұрын

That's awesome buddy! They are awesome devices. I just don't think they're worth buying new 2023

So you're saying people should buy consoles that are cheaper because they run only slightly worse than the Odin?

@ChronikSpartan

Жыл бұрын

I'm saying that I don't believe it's worth paying hundreds more for a slight improvement, especially not when new releases are on the horizon

I want to buy odin anyway cause it has a good cpu and it looks atractive as hell and i could dream of it. Minimum i want for wii and a pinch of 3ds and switch emulation(i literally have 20+ fps on melee on play store's dolphin emu :_( )

@ChronikSpartan

Жыл бұрын

The AYN Odin Lite is still a great choice. It's the Odin Pro I'd avoid.

@Nap0leonBonaparte

Жыл бұрын

​@@ChronikSpartan Thanks

But this other can't run windows.

...you want power - you pay. simple.

Boy, sure is a lot of Retroid gravy oozing around... 🤔

@ChronikSpartan

3 ай бұрын

Haha, Retroid are pretty good to be fair!

You just said Amazing so much.

@ChronikSpartan

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I believe I did 😂

Disagree. AYN Odin thrashes the RG505 and RP3/RP3+. Larger screen, analogue triggers, more powerful and HDMI out at 1080P. Worth the extra money! I also have an RG552 which is better for 2D gaming than anything else in this price range. Awesome 5:3 1920 x 1152 screen that using integer scaling provides a larger, better image than the Odin.

I'm only there to buy it to use mobile emulation since that's what its originally used for ps1 games will not run on an 8gb memory device that's just impossible. mobile games only use like what 8 to 4gb memory. I'm not saying that your wrong about other emulation I think they should a make another one but cheaper and have a NVidia processer and 16gb memory or more just to emulate larger games. so, this thing is worth it but not the price for it which I do agree is a bit ridiculous.

Let's see some 3DS emulation comparison

@ChronikSpartan

Жыл бұрын

Mjolnir Stone did a great video showing 3DS emulation on the budget devices. Of course the Odin Pro will be better, it's whether it's better enough to be worth the money.

From what I gathered, the Odin Pro isn't worth if you already have other systems that cover the same games... like a SteamDeck, the RP3+, etc. If you DON'T have a SteamDeck and other systems to cover the games you want to play, the OP is still a decently powered handheld with a WHOLE HOST of possibilities.

Thanks for the nice breakdown!

@ChronikSpartan

Жыл бұрын

No problem mate, glad you enjoyed!

I love the device but it will be obsolete in the price vs performance factor in the market especially for the odin pro. But it's not fair to compare ayn odin to the rp3+ because rp devices benefited from releasing too many iterations of their devices with very little long time support. Odin pro has better support, software updates and community/developer support than the Retro pocket 3 and 3 plus devices. Sometimes framerate is not everything. Yes I have a steamdeck and it's performance is superior but the odin form factor is superior than to the steamdeck and has better battery life. Playing ps2 games on the odin is just a mere bonus not the main reason to get the system.

@suhtangwong

Жыл бұрын

Then why get the Odin if not for ps2? Because for half the price you can get the rp3+ for that does other systems mainly fine..

@kennysa3586

Жыл бұрын

@@suhtangwong depends on the individual. But for me the odin beats rp3+ because it has more headroom for features such as CRT shaders, fast foward, etc. And 1080p screen for better media consumption(netflix youtube etc)

@suhtangwong

Жыл бұрын

@@kennysa3586 but rp3+ has fast forward too, it's just a setup. But I was debating on getting one, I have rp3+ and it's amazing! But the Odin seems more amazing, but I've been seeing videos that they don't do much more than a rp3+ just slight improvements? 🤔

@suhtangwong

Жыл бұрын

Plus the loki is coming out too and it's windows based. A lot stronger.

so RG552 is a great product but Odin Lite, 3x power, bigger screen …. for less money is not a good one…. oooook

I never find it worthy to get the odin since I already have 2 gaming phones. Both have more significantly powerful chips than the one in Odin pro(SD 845) and Odin lite. But I've decided to get the retroid pocket 3 plus just for the novelty and convenience. Like I just want to experience playing these dedicated retro handhelds.

I bought mine August 2022. Coat a fortune , 360 including shipping then an 80 import charge. But it's ace , sadly no back button and I'm a little suspicious of the touch screen when playing mobas. .but the new range of Ambernics ? Very tempting

@ChronikSpartan

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, it was definitely a brilliant console on release. This market just moves so fast though.

Send the AYN Odin to me. I will put it to good use.

@ChronikSpartan

Жыл бұрын

Haha if I still had it I would 😂

@OHCAM5

Жыл бұрын

@@ChronikSpartan The digital triggers of the others really kill them. At least for me

Well, that’s that. Clickbait confirmed. Anyone thinking of going with an RP3+ (which I own) to save all of $50 will probably end up doing *exactly* what I did: Throwing their hands up in the air out of frustration and finally ordering an Odin Lite 128GB w/ 6GB of RAM to get “only” those extra 10-15 fps to get me above the 20 FPS I’m currently getting on RP3+. Even with pricey shipping the total cost was about $200 less than a SteamDeck. There are ZERO gaming handhelds with Dimensity D900 SOC, so Odin Lite has no competition on SOC. D900 pushes similar frame rates as SD845, but below 48° C while Odin Pro exceeds 75°. There’s headroom in D900 and it will only get faster as optimizations are applied. Odin Lite also includes an LTE modem for data and voice. The Odin Lite is in stock and on sale for $199. Odin Pro and Superpack are sold out, leaving Odin Base & Lite. I snagged an Odin Lite because I don’t think AYN will offer them for much longer as they shift focus to all the Loki variants they offer. If you’re a “casual gamer” considering any of these retro handhelds direct from China, then you’re probably not a casual gamer.

@ChronikSpartan

Жыл бұрын

You make a fair point about the Lite, my perspective is of the Pro model.

Irrelevant?? I don’t think so. Large screen, still has the best battery life out of any gaming handheld out there especially for emulating ps2 and GameCube and also great for playing native android games

@ChronikSpartan

Жыл бұрын

For me it's about the relative cost compared to the competition and what is on the horizon for 2023. I personally wouldn't buy one at this point.

My problem is the steam deck, I want a handheld for games. But why would I buy any of these systems when if I spend a bit more I could play almost game available, emulators pc games streamed games, you name it. I just can’t justify spending 150 - 200 on a budget system when there’s the steam deck looming the back of my head Ps. I dig the LN hat

@ChronikSpartan

Жыл бұрын

As an owner of a Steam Deck I totally agree. It's such a fantastic console and honestly a game changer! Easily my favourite console in ages. Cheers bro, hopefully he does well this year, future F1 Champion for sure!

@gabood

Жыл бұрын

@@ChronikSpartan hopefully

Lame bait. Same thing can be said about all electronics.

All in all he’s still saying it’s better than the other handhelds which contradicts his title

@ChronikSpartan

Жыл бұрын

It's the price point that makes it irrelevant in my opinion. The extra power doesn't justify the cost.

Someone here can buy and send ti Brasil?

"The improvement was only about 10-15 frames per second" I mean... first, that's a lot when the ceiling is 60 FPS, and second, that matters a lot more in emulation than in native software since it affects game logic and speed. We're not talking about 130 FPS vs 145 FPS in CS:GO here, or even 30 FPS vs 45 FPS in The Witcher 3 on a Steam Deck. 45 FPS vs 60 FPS is the difference between unplayable and playable for PS2 and GC emulation. And this isn't just nitpicky technical stuff, the difference in speed in immediately obvious, particularly in the audio. But even if that weren't the case, the Odin has a bigger 1080p screen, analog triggers, superior ergonomics, and better video out. There's still nothing else on the market that matches it on all of those fronts (though a few challengers are incoming), so the arrival of a couple devices that sit in a slightly better place on the price/performance scale doesn't suddenly render it irrelevant. Not everyone is trying to hit that particular bullseye and plenty of people are happy to pay more for higher-end stuff even if it doesn't scale perfectly with the cost. Hell, this is a market where people pay a premium for identical devices in metal shells. Basically... can I get analog acceleration for San Francisco Rush 2049 on the RP3+? No. Can I strafe and lock-on with the same trigger in Metroid Prime on the RG505? Also no. Until that changes, a device that allows me to do those things still has relevance.

The Lagtroid Pocket is a joke compared to the AYN Odin. The more affordable systems currently can't run Gamecube, Wii & PS2 without noticeable frustrating lag.

@ChronikSpartan

Жыл бұрын

Get a Steam Deck then