Do motorized faders make DAWs better? Ableton Live and Presonus FaderPort 8 Review
I’m a big fan of faders because you can control more than one parameter at a time with one hand - but do motorized faders make a difference?
FaderPort 8 was designed for Studio One and its integration with Live is based on the MCU standard.
In this video I explore how well this integration works, what the limitations are, and what it’s like to use Live with this kind of interface.
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TIMELINE:
0:00 Intro
1:10 MCU integration
1:20 Hardware overview
2:20 Fader functions
3:00 Track controls
4:40 Transport control
5:10 Control section
6:10 Misc buttons
7:30 Editing plugins
8:50 Automation
10:10 Beyond 8 paramaters
11:50 External plugins
13:30 MIDI mode
14:20 Pros and cons
15:50 Fader jam
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WOW. This is one of the BEST walkthroughs of a control surface that I have ever seen. Thank you! Very, very well done.
You don't have to turn off and on the faderport to access to Midi Mode anymore, you just have to press the 2 shift buttons at the same time. Great video by the way, thanks !
I bought a PreSonus FaderPort 16 for my Logic and I’m very happy with it.
This is a great walk through. Thanks! I've had a FaderPort 8 for a few months now. I use it with Logic Pro X, and like Ableton, there are a few quirks, but nothing too serious. I do love having physical faders to work with. I now tend to work more with my ears, than always looking at the screen, which is a big plus.
Your videos are super clear, easy to follow, and straight to the point. I also appreciate the content section sidebar on the left. Thank you!
I love how in depth and well explained your reviews are... From experience, I totally agree with how useful this is coming from a purely soft synth background, the feel of hardware controllers brings a whole new level of expression to performance both live and in the studio !
If I ever havwe a question about my faderport 8, after all these years, I come to this video… thank you!
I've been looking for a 16 channel h/w controller forever never seeming to land on one that's perfect (yes I know the 16 wasn't out when you did this vid). But it's nice to see someone reviewing the Faderport with Ableton. Super helpful. Thanks loopop!
@palaHD
6 ай бұрын
Faderport 16 came out 6 years ago
I see this as a valuable companion to the Push 2. I love the deep integration of Push but I don't like mixing with it. I would probably never use the Faderport's plugin manipulation, but that doesn't make it less valuable to me. There's something about faders that map almost unconsciously to levels for me, so that I mix with my ears instead of my eyes. Mixing on Push, on the other hand, is very much a visual experience for me.
@fourcandlesmusic
2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree re: plug in manipulation. Push2 is pretty hard to rival for intuitive plugin editing! I've also tried mixing on the Push and it just doesn't feel right using rotaries. I've ordered the FaderPort 16 today, wonder if the niggles with Ableton have been ironed out yet....
@rusclausus
2 жыл бұрын
@@fourcandlesmusic did faderport arrive? What is your thoughts about it for mixing? I have Push2 and i think the same.
Thank you so much for this, been waiting for someone to make a video like this, now i can buy this
Faderport8 is also officially supported in Bitwig (3.1 and up). Ordered mine already, just watching this instead of reading the manual - thanks :D
I have the Fader Port 1 and it completely changed my workflow! Especially when I'm recording guitar and can't be sitting at the desk.
@TheRealHucasys
5 жыл бұрын
And I use FL Studio and Studio One, have Ableton Live on other computer so haven't tried.
@steffenhenriksen1412
Жыл бұрын
@@TheRealHucasys Will it auto focus to a track you select with your mouse on the screen? or do you have to navigate with the next button
@TheRealHucasys
Жыл бұрын
@@steffenhenriksen1412 Yeah it does, whatever track you select on the screen with the mouse gets controlled by the Faderport, also from the Faderport you can change track (left-right buttons), cheers.
@steffenhenriksen1412
Жыл бұрын
@@TheRealHucasys With Ableton? :)
@TheRealHucasys
Жыл бұрын
@@steffenhenriksen1412 Sorry no, as I was saying, haven't used it with Ableton.
Great breakdown! This will help me get more out of my Faderport 16 with Ableton. Thanks 🙏
Got the single faderport V2 and as a drummer this thing is a huge relief especially using a foot pedal to start/stop.That alone is why I got the thing.Editing is a lot more enjoyable without having to mouse over everything all the time.I could go on but as a helpful note I keep the faderport to the left of the PC and mouse on the right for two hand usage.🤖🛸
Thank you for this detailed review. Most of times, I only use it to write volume automation in StudioOne4. SO4 more like regular song arranger and mixer, Live more like real time acting and performming, so FP8 seems more powerful in live after watch your review. However, I think 8 faders are a little bit short of faders for large mixing, once your project end up with 7~80 tracks or more(drum may fill up 10 tracks or more). FP16 will be a real arsenal despite price and it can be finally placed in front of keyboard(Now I'm placing FP8 behind my keyboard, have to reach out my arm everytime I touch the faders).
Does the single fader version of this work as of 2023? Or does it still have the 8 track banking issue? I'm planning on buying it and using it with ableton. Any info would be great!
Just starting to look into motorized fader controllers and came across this one. Thanks for this! Curious if you had heard about the Icon Pro Audio Platform M+. I was only able to find one comparison video for using them in Logic, but I would imagine similar results with MCU. Lights on the Icon seem to be a bit more annoying.
@loopop
8 ай бұрын
My pleasure - it's on my to do list but I haven't tried them yet
I remembered when Roland released a sampler with those motorized faders....You still can find a video of the RZA talking about it
Great tutorial as always... and lovely jam, dude! I feel like your music is the unsung hero of a lot of these videos, always tasteful and interesting
@loopop
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much!
@V4D2
4 жыл бұрын
i completely agree.. With the YT gadget review thing.. we often neglect the Music, which is what it is all about, in the end. i’ve said it before, but i’ll say it again _ I dig your musicality Ziv. It’s kind of a pity that your music doesn’t get to shine in the same spotlight your usually flawless reviews do. i’m glad you gave it room to breath, on this one. ;)
@V4D2
4 жыл бұрын
coming from the 707/MPCs thing into this one, i find this to being another rabbit hole.. :P maybe this PreSonus partnered with an APC Mini or sth similar...would make a great Ableton interface center piece controller..to complete the MIDI instruments i use.. I seem to need , or want..sth the market is not providing... A way to have a more hands on approach to ableton , but instead of focusing on sampled based music..actually going with VSTs and live playing &recording. i wonder what ppl like Elise Trouw use, when mixing and arranging...at home.
Now they all have make moving sliders, because its cool! Great showing loopop and I like the music you are making on the way. Inspiring :)
@loopop
5 жыл бұрын
Thank uuuu
Great product review. Very informative and well done.
Thanks, Loopop. Found one of these Faderport 8 things about 6 months ago at an amazing price in a pawn shop and have been wondering what to do with it. Now I have a clue, thanks to your review!
@jaimdeines5141
4 жыл бұрын
Omg so luck I hate you. Lol
Great controller, and the Faderport 16 is even better - I'm wondering if there is a way to change the display layout (as its described in the manual) using the Ableton drivers...?
The FaderPort is going to be my next purchase. I use a mix of Studio One 5 Professional and Ableton Live. Found your video on researching how well it works with Ableton. Great demo! I want to save up enough to get the Faderport 16, but i would be happy with the Faderport 8 as well. I obviously knew how well it works with Studio One, but after seeing how well it works with Ableton as well, now im completely sold on it. Thanks for the very detailed video. 😁
You can now enter/exit MIDI mode by simultaneously pressing the left and right shift buttons :)
This is an amazing device and what I’ve been looking for to control Ableton love seamlessly. Great walkthrough too, thank you. Buying it right now.
A question: What is the minimum volume step with the fader? 0.1.dB? Less? More? Amazing video, thanks a ton!
Great performance at the end!
You make Straylight sing, nice one!
Is there a controller you'd recommend over FaderPort specifically for Ableton?
Great video, thank you... this might be a silly question, but what is the maximum amount of tracks you can control? I saw you flicking through them with the knob but is it possible to go through them like pages, e.g. Track 1-8, then onto to Track 9-16, then Track 17-24 etc. ? you showed something at around 3:35, but I didn't notice if it actually loaded up the next 8 tracks in your project once you passed track 8 so you have the next group of tracks (9-16) displayed on the mixer. Thanks!
@salassandoval
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, is absolutely possible. You just have to press the "bank" button and then move the encoder. If you are in "channel" mode, channels will move one by one, and if you are on "bank" mode, then the encoder will move through pages of 8 channels, as you call it.
@AlexM8384
2 жыл бұрын
@@salassandoval thanks mate 👍
Yes, yes they do. I use the Icon QCon Pro. Not only does it make it more tactile (by touching actual faders instead of using a mouse), it can be used for controlling plugin parameters as well. When switching between plugins, each knob position is automatically matching placement with the faders.
man, they could've included one knob per track. it would still look clean.. kinda silly to pan using faders imo
@Gongtopia
4 жыл бұрын
You can also pan with the Pan/Parameter knob in the upper left corner. This works really well. Being able to use the faders to pan is a bonus.
Oh, finally! I have been thinking about buying this for three years now. Thanks for making such a detailed video. I would love to add the subtitles in spanish. Let me know :) Greetings from Mexico
@loopop
5 жыл бұрын
Hey - thanks for your comment! Of course, I would be happy if you were to create Spanish subtitles for the video. I think my videos are enabled for that, so all you need to do it create it and I will approve it if necessary. Let me know if I need to do anything as I've never done this before
Hi, loopop!!! I need your help!! I work in Studio One 5 and the NI Kontakt sampler with orchestral libraries from Spitfire, Cinematic Studio and VST synthesizers of orchestral instruments from SWAM. To work, I need to control the parameters of dynamic automation (Volume, Expression, Vibrato, etc.) during the live (performance) of a musical part. I am considering buying a Presonus Faderport 8, because it is equipped with motorized faders. This is what is required in my work. I didn't find an answer to my question on the forum of the Presonus website. Please help me. For convenience, I will state my questions on the points: 1. Is it possible to link Presonus Classic faders (Faderport 8) to the volume, expression, vibrato parameters in each NI Kontakt orchestral library, so that they are constantly stored in memory for constant use? 2. I will be glad if item 1 is possible! You could have suggested how to configure this in Studio One:) 3. If points 1 and 2 are possible, will the Faderport 8 motorized feeders automatically connect to the already recorded dynamic automation settings? Thank you in advance! I really hope for your help!!!
Quick query: if I have 8 closed groups, will the faders be assigned to these groups or will it be assigned to all the channels within? I tend to do sub mixes within groups, using them like a BUS and will then mix these. Does it allocate groups to faders in his way? Thanks
I've always wondered what happens if you touch a fader when it's moving due to being automated. Does it mess up / overwrite the automation so you have to do it again? Does it allow you to edit the automation? How can you use it or is it just nice to watch?
Good video. Still, my biggest problem is latency, when you use heavy plugins latency can reach 1 second, good luck automating volume at all then, you get 1 second delay in fader response..
@gustavbergstrom2138
4 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't latency compensation solve your problem?
@loopop
4 жыл бұрын
Or just freeze the tracks and automate
Good review with attention to the cons - well done, thumbs up.
I instantly have a MC808 flashback :)
@Hannie.Schaft
5 жыл бұрын
I instantly have a bcf2000 flashback :)
Interesting and well made and structured video! I think I‘m gonna go for the Behringer one
@fabianvasquezjr8852
5 жыл бұрын
You get what you pay for, I had the same dilemma I was gonna get the Behringer because it was cheaper but my Sweetwater sales engineer talked me out of it for the Presonus faderport 8, I'm glad he did. A fellow audio engineer bought a Behringer about the same time I did about two years ago, his gave him a lot of set up problems and frustrations, then finally died before its time, the Presonus is still going strong. Now that the Presonus series iii mixers are bigass control surfaces too, you can find used ones at great prices. The fader port 16's are going down in price too. I'll sell you mine since I got the studiolive 24 I don't need it now lol.
@Amatteus
4 жыл бұрын
@@fabianvasquezjr8852 But StudioOLive is not a controller isnt´it?... It´s a mixer... Mixing happens in the machine... not in the daw... Is it better this way? Are you happy with it? Thanks.
I'm a bit late finding this video- I've had a Faderport for a few years now, but only recently got Ableton. I can say the Faderport works a lot better with Ableton than Reaper. FYI: You can switch the Faderport between MIDI and MCU mode by pressing both of the shift keys at once.
@mcnitt
2 жыл бұрын
Hey, John. Perhaps you know, in Ableton are you able to solo more than one track using the Faderport 8? I am able to mute multiple tracks but only solo one track. Seems odd. Wondering if I'm doing something wrong?
@TeaWithWarriorsChnnl
2 жыл бұрын
@@mcnitt Hi Brian, I haven't explored too much yet with the Faderport and Ableton. I've been mostly focused on trying to learn Ableton itself. I noticed even using a mouse I could only solo one track at a time (or set record arm). There probably is some setting that changes that, and would also help with using the Faderport, but I need to find it. Maybe that will be my project next time I open up Ableton.
@mcnitt
2 жыл бұрын
@@TeaWithWarriorsChnnl Hi John. Thank you for the reply! And you're right, the way to solo or arm multiple tracks in Ableton is to command-click (mac) or control-click (windows). @loopop solos multiple tracks at 4:00 with no issue but that doesn't work for me. I've Googled a bit and found a few others saying the same. I posted on the PreSonus Faderport 8 forum but haven't heard back yet; the forum doesn't seem super active. Very curious what you find. And good luck learning Ableton! Such a great DAW. Cheers!
@TeaWithWarriorsChnnl
2 жыл бұрын
@@mcnitt I found this in an old thread. It is probably still true (the last bit about exclusive solo on and off): yur2die4 wrote: Hold ctrl (or maybe option, I don't know Mac commands), or I think you can also hold shift to highlight/select multiple channels and when pressing solo, it'll solo them all. If there is an option, it'll start with the word 'exclusive' Edit: in Preferences it is in the Record/Warp/Launch tab. There are buttons for both Exclusive Arm and Solo.
@mcnitt
2 жыл бұрын
@@TeaWithWarriorsChnnl Turning off Exclusive on Arm and Solo in the Record/Warp/Launch preferences tab worked! Thank you so much, John. You are my hero today!!
Great Video as always! BTW IPS-LCD's also has great viewing angles, not just oled.
I always askt myself, would the motorized faders work with a groovebox that has automation ( for example a Deluge)? Greetz 👍🤞✌️
Wow best addition for my ableton push 2
The faderport has been updated and one no longer needs to turn off it off to enter midi mode.
Can’t decide if I should get a faderport 8 and use it alongside my push - or get rid of the push and just get a faderport 16 instead 😅
Great review! I use Ableton Live 11 and think everything is working as intended - except when I press [Channel] it lights up, but the neither the navigation wheel nor the buttons switches between channels. Anyone else have the same problem or a solution?
Are you able to use this for recording in midi expression control, such as dynamics/modwheel automation for a VST instrument? I think I read somewhere else that FaderPort cannot do this.
@loopop
4 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly it has a MIDI mode but please verify
Your videos are top notch btw. Have you used it since the latest faderport update? It seems that all the issues you had have been resolved and even going into the midi mode has been fixed without turning it off. Also your video is what made me just recently get one for Ableton and I couldn't be happier with this, the Presonus Atom, and Push 2. Yeah I've spent about $1600 in the last 3 weeks 😫🙂
Does the automation work with just plain midi CC's? I do a lot of CC automation with midi controllers so motorized faders for that would be very nice.
Such a great video for such a great product.
Hello love this video thanks for the help! The only difference from my faderport 8 is that when i click arm i can only arm one track at a time. As soon as i try arming a second track it disarms the first one. Any tips with this possibly?
Great walk through, thank you :)
Big question about midi mode. Do you get multiple pages of faders? I'm curious about using it with something like MPC Live and having a million faders would be quite handy. Also, does midi mode support motorized fader location feedback? I suspect not but would like to verify. Big thanks!
@loopop
5 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately just 8 in MIDI mode. I haven't tried sending MIDI ccs to it...
@iVardensphere
5 жыл бұрын
@@loopop groovy. Thanks mate!
The smart fabric that Keith Mcmillen uses also effectively works as a motorized fader, minus the moving parts, weight, cost, high current draw, etc.. They're not perfect (hard to see position in bright light, perhaps a bit less accurate), but would pick them over motorized faders in most cases. Of course, none of their offerings are very similar to this thing, but to answer the question "do moterized faders make DAWs better?", I'd say that the smart fabric (or some other touch strip) is generally preferable.
I'm late to this but, Ableton doesn't natively show timecode in it's transport. Does the SHIFT + TIMECODE function display it in SMPTE Timecode Format?
Hi Received the SSL UF8, thinking that was better than this one...one step back after 2 weeks of testing...sending back the SSL and ordered the FADERPORT 16...regarding your review, it seems well more adapted than the SSL for Ableton...a good product but not fluid at all and a bit buggy... Thanks for your review!
So this is only an 8 track controller but you can switch it between different sets of 8, meaning if I have 16 tracks I can still access the 9-16 by scrolling the wheel?
Very useful review. Thanks!
Thanks for this. I didn't even know about this product (seems pretty similar to Mackie's HUI controllers from a decade ago). Some questions: 1. Is there any point in getting this if you have a Push 2? And if so, can they co-exist or would you choose to use one at a time? 2. Would there be any point to creating a Max4Live instrument/plugin to handle the buttons/modes better?
@loopop
5 жыл бұрын
Re 1: Budget permitting, I think so (using both). Push 2 is awesome but I prefer faders to knobs any day, and the physical representation with the motorized faders is strong. 2. I think that would be quite difficult... the 8 parameter/device limit isn't a deal breaker in my book and that's really the only reason for a script
@loopop
4 жыл бұрын
Rivanni yes - I edited my response - thanks!
Do the faders move the ableton faders by 0.1 dB @ a time or does it jump various dBs @ a time. IOW how accurate does faderport move the volume faders in LIVE?
i picked up an old apc 40 so i could have some faders. love faders for live dub mixes/remixes. but yeah the next one thats motorized with oled i will probably grab it up. i wish the faders on the apc were motorized but i got it setup pretty good.
Solid overview. Thanks! It would be nice if they could fix the issue with unity being at ZERO instead of +4
@kadiummusic
2 жыл бұрын
Anybody know if this has been fixed, it seems totally unnecessary. 🤔
@jdssurf
Жыл бұрын
@@kadiummusicever find out?
For some reason I can not get the Faderport 8 to ARM ALL. Was there something special done to get that to work? Thank you Great video!
Why is it this mixer works for ableton.. by my Presonus studio live 64S faders don’t control ableton… how is this possible? What’s missing?
You could have the same & more for less in price with the Maschine Jam as it has touch faders with light feedback plus you get the whole Maschine software. And yes, a very clever Ableton Live script does come with it. Also, an ipad with Touchable or similar on it might be an alternative.
@Amatteus
4 жыл бұрын
Machine Jam for mixing?... Are you sure?
Can you access more than 8 params of a plugin? Can you page using the encoder or prev/next? How does it compare with similar devices like xtouch?
Is there a way to have return channels come up on the faderport so that you can control their level, for example? I’m unable to get that working.
Nice review ! There is also a 16 ports version ! And also maybe in the future you can review gear such as QCon Pro ! Which is also nice
This is a nice product but most people never record anything they just twiddle knobs and buy reverb pedals.
Does plugin parameter control as shown also works for the faderport v2 (only one fader)? I do not find this - only volume control?
Interesting video - something I've always wanted to know more about.. Re. 10:31, while I see the benefit of racking and mapping macros, can you not just re-order the automatable parameters in the expanded view of the device, dragging the params you want to control by the hardware to be the first eight in the list?
@loopop
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Regarding rearranging the parameters - I don't think that's possible - how can you do that? Regardless most newer plugins have quite a few parameters, so you need to pick the ones you want to control anyway (and as I show in the video, in that case you don't need macros)
@EannaButler
5 жыл бұрын
@@loopop You can click-drag the horizontal-slider parameters in that view with your mouse, to re-order them. If the default behaviour of the hardware is to select the first 8 params in that list, then rearranging their order in the expanded device panel should mean that Faderport can see those params that you moved to the head of the list. Which would mean you don't *have* to rack the device... Altho, of course Racks are only a good thing...
@loopop
5 жыл бұрын
@@EannaButler Click dragging the parameters doesn't work for me. What am I doing wrong?
@EannaButler
5 жыл бұрын
@@loopop Not at my PC at the moment - if I am mistaken about that re-ordering trick, I do apologise!! Will check later and update on my mistaken'ness :-)
@captainbleep
5 жыл бұрын
@@loopop You have to be in Map mode, after you hit "Configure." I do it all the time because OCD. :)
It's so beautiful
Just bought one. Firmware 3.42 on Windows 10. Nothing works well. MCU Ableton integration is crashing live and not working on my mac either. The faders jump when I release them and when I pick them back, the output jumps also. Such a disappointment. I'm a pro user. never had a control surfaces freezing live before. Sad.
where could i purchase a very simple and tiny automatif fader for volume only please? i just want it to fade my recordings on cassette tapes at the end of the tapea. Thank u very much.
What other fader controllers would be good to pair with Push
Just one thing makes motorized faders better than without. Imagine that you load a mix your working on. With NO motors then if your faders is NOT at the same position as in the mix then you be screwed because you easy end up with all faders in your mix in wrong positions and have to rebuild this mix. So when you HAVE motorized faders and you load a mix then the faders simply just move to correct positions as in the mix. Another nice feature is that if you do fading of some channels in realtime then the recorded fader positions will automatic play back as in the mix ( on the screen ) So conclusion is , If you first ONE time try motorized faders then you will NEVER go back.
Can it be used with FL studio?
@TheRealHucasys
5 жыл бұрын
I have the Fader Port 1 and works partially with FL Sutdio.
Besides the behringer x-touch, which seems like a better option, and this, what other controller options exist with motorized faders?
Thank you! Great review. Does the Record also do Session record ? (Around minute 3 it shows Arrangement)
@AndresBurgoa
5 жыл бұрын
Nevermind. I just needed to wait to minute 6 haha.
Hey, planning to buy an icon, xtouch or now fader port ? I'm only interested in mixing audio level for automations. (even the transport & shortcuts i won't use) one thing i can't find in any motorized surface is the ability for the controler to display ONLY the tracks selected in your DAW. is that possible with faderport ? i wan't to be able to automate say track #5 and #48 how to do that ? thx for video and help if you know about this ;)
@loopop
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks - I haven’t seen that to be possible but please contact presonus to be sure
@realsamswing5029
3 жыл бұрын
moreau sylvain Made hey man I been searching n searching for more icon vids and only Lone Ranger and some other dude that’s it and most of the comments ppl are saying about the new QCON ICON PRO G2 is the company isn’t supporting the product and their multiple DAW integration just isn’t there tech support isn’t there and they are lying about the stated integration and there seems to be buggy and messed up units not being replaced but only repaired with ppl waiting months to get them back so I’m changing my mind now was gonna get both the G2 and the extender but now I’ll wait and check the FADERPORT 16 MAYBE
please do a microkorg video
Is it possible to arm many tracks at the same time using Faderport 8 ? (Like using Ctrl/Cmd and arm on the computer)
For me, It's not BETTER but it's slightly faster and more fun. However, since the price of controllers is mostly expensive, it's no longer fun. I'd rather use a DIY infrared touch screen (faster but less fun than having real faders and knobs) or, if I want to spend more, I'd rather go for a used/new digital mixer like the Behringer Wing. I believe this will increase my workflow speed and be more fun.
Faderport wasnt really intended for Ableton, just like push 1 or 2 is not intended for Studio One. but people started to complain from cubase, fruity pebbles and ableton. so presonus was forced to make it more compatible with other daws.
Would you recommend this over e.g. the Behringer X-Touch? The X-touch seems to have more functionality, but this seems simply more premium..
@loopop
4 жыл бұрын
Yavor Bachvarov I’m not familiar with it. Perhaps someone else can confirm
Just turn mousekeys on in windows and use your keyboard. Click drag is one key hit and hold ctrl or command for fine tuning. Its the click drag of your mouse that's annoying, use mouse keys to avoid it.
Im really intrested in a control surface for easier workflow but a question.. is there anyway to have the fader as clip gain instead of track volume? I rarely use the volume vs gainstaging with clip gain or the unity effect. The faders will be really helpful if I could do this.
@gusdee4844
4 жыл бұрын
Man the price lmao thought it would be like 100 bucks like another one I saw. Damn.
Maybe I missed it in the video, but wondering what happens if you try to move a fader that has automation? Does the motor hand over control to you as soon as you touch it, or do you feel it fighting your finger?
@loopop
5 жыл бұрын
I guess it's up to the software. In Ableton touching the fader automatically takes over control of the parameter. You can then click "re-enable" automation to get it moving and the recorded automation be active again.
Anybody know just one daw controller with eq knobs ?
spot on, as always-thanks! question: if we ran the Arturia V collection (that you got me hooked on!) as plugins in Live, couldn't we use the faderport to map and navigate the synth's various controls as plugins, and not have to exit, power off, and reboot in midi mode? I'm looking for a midi knob/fader controller for the V collection without buying a new keyboard and this seems like it could work for that, plus all it's uses for Live...
@loopop
5 жыл бұрын
MIDI mode here wouldn't help you - you'd still be controlling 8 parameters. The way I would use this with V collection is by using Analog Lab as a container. Then you could choose which 8 Analog Lab parameters you'd want to control, and then you could always dive in to the actual synth. BTW Arturia keyboards are of course great controllers for AL with more than double the 8 parameter controls here
Great review thanks!
Sold!
What about the Behringer xtouch. Which would you pick?
Straylight seems so great
@loopop
5 жыл бұрын
yesss - I highly recommend giving it a try
Look man like I have so many compliments for this channel your so in depth and vids are so well made I don't know how to explain but..... you make me wanna motorize my faders ...
Aloha, Big fan of your videos. You do a great job of addressing all of the functionality in a direct and easy to understand way. I did have a quick question which hopefully you have time to reply to. I have a somewhat older Fantom G and was wondering if I could use this to also control the faders and operations on that keyboard? I am thinking about getting the new Fantom as well (great video on that one also) and was wondering about using the FaderPort on that keyboard as well. I also have both Ableton and Studio One DAWs, so this might be a great addition
@loopop
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm not familiar with the Fantom G. The new Fantom has plenty of programmable sliders, I'd probably stick to learning those - but you could use a MIDI controller too
@garyusinger
3 жыл бұрын
@@loopop @loopop Thanks for getting back to me. What do you think about the X-touch compared to the FaderPort?
This might be a shot in the dark but does anyone know how to do the stuff happening in the "beyond 8 parameters" section but in logic pro?
Now it just needs motorized knobs, or endless encoders with led indicators as well and it could be the best Traktor mixing interface.