Nice video Polly The extrapolation probably isn’t quite 1:1 - inside 15 the difference is probably going to shrink - but those portions of stages with tight partials is going to definitely stratify the shooters and guns - great testing - inspires me to look harder at ammo

Definitely a "competitor pedigree"!! I loved how you approached the tests and used actual hit factor as a comparison basis. That makes it more science and less opinion only, like we see out there all the time. Great video my friend! I can't wait to debut the Prodigy in LO - Will probably shoot our classifier match with it.

@IsabellaVillegas-ll5fp

2 ай бұрын

@AAAAAQQQQQQQAAQQQ11IOOOO7I

Very educational. Thank you sir.

Well done. I transformed my Prodigy the same way with even more subtle mods. Pinned the safety and did a comp blend on parts around the grip for comfort. Also tapped the stock mag telease for a short Double Tap button. Added a Shield RMSx and it's a real beast on paper and steel.

@TheGentlemanGunner

3 ай бұрын

Pinned safety would’ve been something I should’ve done. I really appreciated when I hoped on a Sand Viper and got the occasional delay 😂. Thanks for checking out the video!

Great video and information, thanks!

@TheGentlemanGunner

3 ай бұрын

Appreciate you my dude!

Beautiful gun!

Hell yeah it does mine amazing thanks skip

Fuckin hilarious, because this is what I am doing right now. My coworker and I bungled a safety install yesterday 😂. Let that be a warning to people who are going to pick up some nice safeties. PS. My coworker has worked on Nighthawks, Wilson's, Staccato's, etc...this was the first time he has ever messed up fitting a safety.

@TheGentlemanGunner

3 ай бұрын

This made me chuckle because I once botched fitting a safety to my old Open Gun (STI DVC)… I then rage quitted to having my local gunsmith do it 😂

It was normal to with favtory 1911s to swap in ignition kits, controls, etc. Springfield, Kimber, what have you. You just budget in the fixes to cost cutting so your 1911/2011 performs as it should have.

Fun project. I'm thinking about picking up a Mac 2011 and doing much the same just to learn how to play with 2011 internals. I also sub to the CZ Armorer's channel. Great how-to CZ content. I wonder if he'll post a vid on these 2011 mods🤔

@TheGentlemanGunner

3 ай бұрын

That would be interesting to see… I never seen one or hear of anyone doing anything to those… pick one up and do it!

@SEAKPhotog

3 ай бұрын

@TheGentlemanGunner It'll have to wait until after some other purchases and projects but I do plan on it. Just last week I ordered an MPA DS9 Hybrid and also impulse bought a used CZ S2 Orange for a great price (with a CZC optics cut/system). My gun money has all been spoken for for a long while, I fear.🤣

@TheGentlemanGunner

3 ай бұрын

@@SEAKPhotog I might add you have good taste there! 🫡

@SEAKPhotog

3 ай бұрын

@TheGentlemanGunner Ha, between you and David and some others showcasing the MPA and me with my admitted CZ, and now 2011 addiction, I was doomed!🤣

Send your prodigy to Scott over at Skips Gunz 👍🏻😎👍🏻 he can turn it into the best, flattest shooting machine you’ve ever had.

@BS-un1wk

3 ай бұрын

Or save yourself hundreds of dollars and just DIY. Plenty of content to help with the install/tuning. Mine is a great shooter with nearly exact mods done by me.

@Bryan-1980

3 ай бұрын

@@BS-un1wk it’s great of you have some know how and tools, but it you only know enough to make yourself dangerous, then a 1911 is definitely best left to the professionals if you want it to be reliable. A “gumsmiff” can really f up a 1911 and even cause dangerous and/or deadly malfunctions. I think that knowledge, know how, and the right tools in the right hands can be worth it’s weight in gold. Scott is the real deal and he’s just one man taking care of his family by living out his dream in the gun business. I’ll support that ANY day 👍🏻🫡 that’s the American dream. If you can afford 1300 for an extra range pistol, then you can afford to have a family man make it the best it can possibly be, that’s just my opinion 🤷🏻‍♂️

What recoil spring was being used for 147g? Great video!

@TheGentlemanGunner

3 ай бұрын

9lb

Im very interested in the prodigy and doing something similar!

@TheGentlemanGunner

3 ай бұрын

Do it! This is how peer pressure works 😂

@hopewilliams6705

3 ай бұрын

@@TheGentlemanGunner I am! I'm going for it very soon

Unfortunately, it’s a total gamble on if a Dawson mag release will work. In mine, it just falls out.

@TheGentlemanGunner

3 ай бұрын

I’m curious… does it not lock in?

@synergytraininggroup

3 ай бұрын

@@TheGentlemanGunnersorta. But as soon as you put any pressure on the lock side, it pushes through.

Exc video, what holster do you/he use for this pistol for LO class ?

@TheGentlemanGunner

3 ай бұрын

I’d probably just use my current setup which is a Double Alpha Flex

I bought the same parts less that big paddle on the side and extended mag release for about $400 (less the optic, a Cyelee Wolf X Pro). What was over $1000 spent on ????? Good video ....... :-)

@TheGentlemanGunner

3 ай бұрын

It was $535 in parts which included the EGW Ignition Kit, Trigger Shoe & Bow, Magwell, Thumb rest, & WC Safety.

@TheAmerican1963

3 ай бұрын

@@TheGentlemanGunner Great job .... great video !!!! c🙂

We didn’t go. Archer taking a late nap. May go to Dave and busters later

@TheGentlemanGunner

3 ай бұрын

Please tell me this was an accidental text 😂… because if it’s code… I don’t know what it all means

Which weight did you get for the EGW ignition kit, the link on your build page is down. Thanks!

@TheGentlemanGunner

2 ай бұрын

Sorry about that… it was the one with the 17# main spring. I also know Marcelo got This 2.75 by doing a little work on the sear spring

@5fivezero0

2 ай бұрын

@@TheGentlemanGunner No apologies necessary, thanks for the vid!

Soo you could’ve bought a Staccato for what you paid for the gun and upgrades?

@TheGentlemanGunner

12 күн бұрын

Sure

Would the prodigy by idpa legal with the 507 comp ?

@TheGentlemanGunner

4 күн бұрын

Aside from the Magwell in this video… yes.

@clappers1233

4 күн бұрын

Thanks for your quick response, I have all the upgrades that you have mentioned for the prodigy 4.25 and I just ordered the comp looks like a great fit. I also realized you answered my question in the video so sorry about that. Love your content keep up the great work

The link list ... it doesnt work.... not even 1... Can you re-create the link list, please?

@TheGentlemanGunner

9 күн бұрын

Done, I appreciate you bringing it to my attention. Tried keeping it easy and going to one retailer… but those guys change things all the time. All links are now to directly to the manufacture

Any 2011 pistol that needs no big mods to be great out of the box with reasonable cost quality ratio being in Canada n crazy restriction on gun ownership I'm hoping things change not like usa here low access to a guy like you grrrr

No way this thing doesn’t have light strike issues using the original firing pin and firing pin spring

@TheGentlemanGunner

3 ай бұрын

We discussed that and had the same thoughts… we ran the factor firing pin… but swapped in an extra power spring for it (came with the recoil spring)

Why did you take the intro song from the classic firearms channel?

@TheGentlemanGunner

3 ай бұрын

So that’s just royalty free music that thousands of people have access to 😂

Considering the Prodigy as an entry point to some kind of competitive shooting before this old dawgs eyesight clocks out. So all in you are at 1800 + the cost of a CZ armorer for those of us who do not have one on speed dial 😅 call it 2k. could probably find a stock race gun that’s similarly appointed out the box - and remove the reliability variable of a parts pistol and (because It sounds cool) tolerance stacking. would be interested in your opinion there and maybe a short list of some 2k guns - OA Defense 2311 is at the top of my list, tho it will probably need to be made race ready too

@PnP-td1mt

3 ай бұрын

Picked my 4.25” up for 1k used with a few things including a 509T. Added EGW ignition kit and red dirt trigger. Some polish work on the barrel, lug timing, and reeming/finishing the chamber. Altas DLC ambi safeties. I’m into it 1500 total. It’s lights out consistent. Had to add a cheely XL firing pin and XP FP spring to prevent lite strikes. These guns won’t run with 17# main springs. Period! Unless the firing pin is changed

@jado4149

3 ай бұрын

​@@PnP-td1mtall of mine have the stock titanium pins using 17 & 19# MS.

@miketaylorID1

3 ай бұрын

@@PnP-td1mt So where does that put you for P&L? Guess I should check current street price too

@PnP-td1mt

3 ай бұрын

@@jado4149not only would they not run with the stock pin but I have found several stock TI prodigy pins to be bent.. The original prodigy firing pin spring is EXTRA EXTRA power

@PnP-td1mt

3 ай бұрын

The 5” guns have issues cycling due to slide mass. The newer 5” guns actually have a ton of material removed from the slide to get it lighter.. The 4.25” comes with a 12# recoil spring that seems to get weak rather quickly. For example the 4.15” staccato Heritage has a 13# recoil spring with a slide that is lighter than the 4.25” prodigy. I won’t tell people they are wrong however I work on these guns A LOT. I own half a dozen 2011’s ranging from a grand to over 7k$..

It’s like taking a dodge neon and turning it into a race car. It can be done, but it will cost too much and it’s still a dodge made with lower quality materials and will not last.

@TheGentlemanGunner

3 ай бұрын

Ehhh… it’s more like taking a base model Camaro SS and turning into a racecar for Trans Am… what’s important is there such as the frame, barrel (especially being a bull barrel) and slide. So you can extract the performance, it just won’t feel and act like a real race car

@PnP-td1mt

3 ай бұрын

The slide, frame, barrel, and grip are the same materials as staccato and other higher end 2011’s. The ignition kit, trigger, recoil assembly, springs, and mags are where they cut corners

@baxrok2.

3 ай бұрын

Total nonsense. lol

@PnP-td1mt

3 ай бұрын

Idk why people spout off knowing they are full of crap.

So you can buy performance. lol

@TheGentlemanGunner

3 ай бұрын

Maybe I need to say… “you can buy a better-er tool, but you can’t buy Match Wins” 😂