So engineers really do know what they're doing after all...

@ninjarooster9258

7 жыл бұрын

Some do, but in my experience they are few and far between.

@Bazuzeus

7 жыл бұрын

Of course not! They are just lucky... sometimes :D

@onetimeracas5972

7 жыл бұрын

NinjaRooster Isnt that the truth!

@doddgarger6806

5 жыл бұрын

They just learn how to try harder, and the math needed to quantify results, no magic involved...

any time you can make your engine breathe easier, whether its inhaling or exhaling, its good for engine power.

@derrickjones7282

3 жыл бұрын

Ecu tuning aswell

I'm looking forward to the Integra project videos so much. Keep up the great work!

@EngineeringExplained

10 жыл бұрын

Happy to hear it!

@solaman095

7 жыл бұрын

restriction at the exhaust header?

I LOVE your acceleration tests :D.. well all tests in general... well all videos about your Integra. more please. I will finish all the rest of them by the end of the day...

These testing videos are awesome. Keep up the great work.

Love this series man. Keep it up.

This is awesome, I basically have the same exact car(same color even) and I really like how meticulous you are and how well you explain what you're doing and explaining the results of your testing. I am also in the process of modifying my car(slowly but surely) and I had the same exact exhaust system on my list to purchase next and I really like how it turned out on your car. The sound it puts off is exactly what I was looking for and now I know exactly how it will help/hurt the car. Oh yea and now I know what problems I can expect when installing it as well. Maybe install a simple short ram or even cold air intake to help let that new exhaust show its potential and test the acceleration again and I'm sure you will see more significant gains from stock. Good work man.

Great experiment! Always worth watching your tests! Congrats !

I love what you are doing man. Keep it up. I would love to see readings like this for lightweight Crankshaft pulley or Lightweight flywheel. There is so much talk about these things on the forums we really do not know what to believe.

I like the methodical approach you are taking with this.

Enjoying this project, keep it up!

Yet another awesome vid!

Perfect example of how "easy performance" mods don't work no matter how much companies will tout "10 hp gain or whatever"(unless the system being modified is super restrictive, or they tested on a best case sinerio a.k.a modded vehicle). It's all down to how effective the engine is at moving air, because an engine is really a fancy air pump. I expect to see the same result when you get around to a CAI. Assuming no cams or FI are done before hand. Definitely going to use this methodology when I get a catback and a SC under-drive pulley for my Mini, to see what the difference is between all the combinations. Good video, can't wait to see more!

Great job on consistent test procedures. I would encourage you to upgrade/ replace posi, clutch/pressure plate, and CV joints. One of the first things to go is going to be the clutch, posi ( if it has one), or CV joints... Only a slight upgrade on these parts ( stage 1 or 2 ) will make a vast improvement and make the car more consistent when testing parts and make ready for more power in the future.

Love your videos man

thanks a lot sir you answered all of my questions you're a master mechanic!

Man, I really love your videos, but I wish you would also make a "long story short" version of all of them.

@DavyDave1313

5 жыл бұрын

LMAO

@zb9568

4 жыл бұрын

Lol 😂

@vtracing1765

4 жыл бұрын

Yes

@marcellismadness2552

4 жыл бұрын

Then ud miss the science

@elijattack9621

3 жыл бұрын

just read the board and skip to end...

Excellent. Showing you dont need fancy dynos to baseline and track improvements.

you should do an ECU remap for your next video! will be interesting to see what hp gains you could get from your now better flow exhaust system and a remap!

awesome video. very informative, thx an keep em coming.

Super cool video!

Cool video man

Thanks for sharing this knowledge acquired by testing / experiencing things on your own ! Great work done here ! Keep going on make us those videos :) I'd also like to thank you for ealier videos (**everything you need to know about cars** explained !) it helped me a lot in my restoration project of my 94 1g dsm ! If i can you help by any way I can, let me know (FYI I'm an experienced IT developer ;))

I'd like to see this after installing a header

@connorbamber8001

10 жыл бұрын

Exactly! :)

@Mr401MoUa

10 жыл бұрын

That would make a big difference

@intrepid_wandering

10 жыл бұрын

I think that's should certainly be next. After the cat-back your next upgrade really should be a header to complete the whole exhaust system. Also I don't know if it fit's into your agenda but a proper tune starts to be very helpful right around this time.

@H8MadXero

10 жыл бұрын

Mike M Tuning is costly, especially when considering he would have to buy an ECU as well...he'd see more gains per $ after a few more mods imho (ie CAI and Cams/IM (I grouped these together as they really compliement each other)). I would start with a CAI then add cams/IM/ecu and tune all at once.

@intrepid_wandering

10 жыл бұрын

Speed Junkie For some reason I though he already installed a CAI. In which case that should be next. But I agree completely. Putting some performance Cams in would be exciting

Hey, that was a great video and a good systematic way of evaluating the acceleration benefits of practically any modification. I know this would be very loud but have you done any tests WITHOUT the catback exhaust, and which would actually answer the question you pose in the title ;-) ?

Can't wait for the next Project Integra vid. Do you already know what the next upgrade and test will be?

Think of an exhaust system as a multiplier. (Example, not actual stats) Exhaust = 2% Exhaust + Intake = 5% Exhaust + Intake + Tune = 10% An exhaust alone will do nearly nothing by itself, same for an intake, but both of them together multiply each others performance. Every engine will have different results along with different stock parts to work with depending on model. If you want to greatly increase horsepower, your best bet is to research the best Exhaust + Intake + Tune combo for your engine. Currently im looking for a combo that will bring a 300hp 05'-09' Mustang GT to around

@TheBikemaster94

7 жыл бұрын

HexifiedGaming 400 ci. Craigslist special, I see Malibu and montes going for 3k . They're all Automatic in that price range if that's a deal breaker.

@billdaggett7911

5 жыл бұрын

You'll never get 120hp gains from a catback, intake and tune. Not even with headers, full exhaust, cai, and tune. You'll need a cam and maybe headwork.

@cbass4017

5 жыл бұрын

10% stop watching fast n furious its more like 5% maybe = exhaust+intake+tune if you got stickers you can get 7%

@scarea2691

5 жыл бұрын

@@billdaggett7911 but ecu and dyno tuning on turbo engines can really increase power, or at least usablility

@billdaggett7911

5 жыл бұрын

@@scarea2691 that's a turbo engine. Turbos are intentionally oversized so that they operate in a safe range for durability. Increasing boost reduces turbo and engine life and makes more power. That is not possible with Normally Aspirated engines.

Do an update on your sti!

Good points dude

I have installed the cutback on my toyota corolla GLI 2015 with 2000 cc and after some tests I found that the acceleration increased but fuel consumption also increased. This happens when I run the car in gear 2 thanks for your video

Subscribed for the integra have an 97 LS myself

Would adding a catback to a car with CVT potentially be more effective or less effective than adding one with other transmissions? The cvt's RPM's tend to stay higher longer so does that mean the exhaust would be working better for a longer period of time?

If it's not too much to ask is it possible to make a video to see how much acceleration is affected due to octane rating or different brands of gasoline. For example shell versus mobile 1 or Costco versus Sam's Club. -thanks Noro

@EngineeringExplained

10 жыл бұрын

I'll have some future videos on octane levels that I think you'll find interesting. Wouldn't make any difference on my Integra, as it's designed for 87.

@Nisspecvan

10 жыл бұрын

I can't speak to the different brands of gasoline, but I do know higher octane for a car that only needs 87 will not give you any extra performance to speak of. Its not like Nos where you just get more power. Octane is strictly the resistance to detonation. If your car doesn't call for it, its not necessary, unless you have certain mods.

love your videos, please do video if removing cats increases hp with proof

I suggest to get a baseline run at your local track, then do your upgrades and test it again to see if any time difference ;)

@EngineeringExplained

10 жыл бұрын

I think my driving skill would create more significant time differences, so I reverted to something I knew was repeatable.

I just want you to test the effects on MPG this is much more widely debated than performance gains.

From various videos I've seen regarding exhausts and air intake systems, it seems like just adding a more free flowing panel filter and just replacing the stock muffler with a better flowing one will have the same effect has the latter while saving a ton of money. If a vehicle already has say 2.25 inch piping or better depending on the power it makes, then one would assume that it is designed for that diameter of piping and just making the flow better will give you a couple horse power while giving you a nicer sound and maybe a couple mpgs of you drive moderately. Would you consider this accurate?

@saauuzza

6 жыл бұрын

Bizzenn1976 maybe

Project integra vids are totes my fav.

Exhaust is going to bring more noise and MPG over anything. It is fun to lay into tye throttle and hear the tone...I just installed a Jpipe, test pipe (3rd cat delete), catback-magnaflow mufflers. I noticed A LOT more throttle responce and I couldnt stop smiling 😄.

what about turbo back exhaust? what is best with a turbo engine? any suggested products to give the best results?

The most restrictive area is in the header design on the B18. So it's expected that a catback won't shine unless you get a header matched up to it.

@Engineering Explained I dont know if someone else mentioned that before but it is an importand note. The percentage of power increase is not the right one. As you modify the engine more by the time to get a better horsepower output than the stock 140hp,a part of the power gain will be exhaust gain,as the exhaust's inner diameter will be more relevant and suitable for the engine's power output. Correct me if Im wrong,we are here to learn! :)

Proper Engineer!

a couple of days ago i was sitting on the toilet and something came in my mind about weight reduction. there is one factor you never talked about and i don't remember anyone mentioning it: tyre pressure. less weight equals less stress on the tyres, they don't deform that much and thus create less rolling resistance, which affects acceleration. okay, anyhow, i admit that calculating the tyre pressure versus deforming is nearly impossible, but i'd say that a little less air in the tyres (around 0.05 - 0.1 bar) could have done the job, and meant one less factor to worry about. (anyway, lower and higher tyre pressure and their effects on acceleration might be another subject of testing...)

@Dogzero33

10 жыл бұрын

I thought lower tire pressure also increases grip? although close to flat tires i don' think you will get you too far) haha xD

@mactwentytwentyfour

10 жыл бұрын

Dogzero T T It increases grip but lowers speed

@katanamd

10 жыл бұрын

Dogzero T T More grip, but more drag as well. So it will help reduce wheel spin but hinder you once the spin stops.

bro, all these years and I had no clue you were tuner!

On low RPM there will not be enough exhaust moving trough the pipes to give a significant airflow resistance. Testing 5k to 7k in 3rd gear would be easier and more relevant. When you add a turbo, testing low revs will be relevant.

this guy is a real g

How did you choose a cat-back system for an automobile that spins 4,000 rpm traveling at 80mph on an interstate? Did you make a [ Loud droning at sustain speed vs performance gain comparison ] when choosing the components?

Pick up some 4:2:1 headers and some cams next. then get yourself a stand alone ECU and get some ITB's. after you get to where you have a good gain and drive it for a while, rebuild the motor with a higher compression ratio. You'll have to run a higher octane gas and you'll have to tune the ECU to do so but if you're making it a race car anyway it shouldn't be an issue. After that, depending on your application you can run a dry shot of NO2 into the throttle bodies and have one seriously fast car!

Any updates on the Acura? I recommend braking down the engine an explaining what role the major components play. And boring put the engine or even swapping piston rods and pistons for lighter ones.

For better accuracy you could do your tests up a steep hill. It would be nice if you could performed the test to the rev limiter too.

since the back pressure air and fumes exist faster a flow more freely i belive straight pipes "in some cases can" give you more power

excellent!

It would be awesome if we could see the difference in a 1/4 mile test.

planning on any conversions? engine,drivetrain etc?

This is a fast reasoning, so it can well be a wrong one. Its possible that one could measure the acceleration difference while applying multiple gears in one run, and at the same time, discarding the inconstant time of manual gear changes. We find the nº of frames that it takes to go from aKPH to bKPH in 1st gear. Then, in 2nd gear, we find the nº of frames that it takes to go from (bKPH - 5) to cKPH. Then in 3rd, from (cKPH - 5) to dKPH. In 4th, from (dKPH - 5) to eKPH. (The '5' is just there to produce a 'grey area' in between gears, so that there arent any discrepancies, thus a higher value could be used) We add the nº of frames in all gears (while ignoring the nº of frames in the "grey" 5 KPH of every gear) and we can calculate the acceleration time. This would be a test where all gear changes are seamless, therefore the acceleration time would be non-representative. But i think it could give us a representative % difference from one exhaust pipe to the other. Im not 100% though.

after installing the catback . should you tune to get the increased power of the catback. what i mean is installing a catbavk without tuning is just for the sound right. no power will be gained if i did not tune?

I suggest 40-70 mph in 4° or 5° gear.

Edit: You noticed this too! I just was a bit hasty I guess. :D Just a quick thought: we are measuring pretty small differences, and you're times appear to be limited to 1/30th of a second (i.e. limited to the frame rate of the filming camera). With fractions of seconds mattering in this test I would only go with the averages, not bests. Just because those could be at least partially swayed by the frame rate at which you are measuring. And when the differences are 1-3% (1/100 to 3/100) and you can only get 1/30th per second accuracy, might that influence the results a bit?

I think you really should get the car into the dyno. With the video we know that in acceleration, the values are not that different. But how much would that represent in HP? And them it would come the question, is it worth to spend $$ to "earn some HPs" and have almost the same performance? Just and engineer to engineer tip. Keep doing your excelent work!

Hey, PLEASE question: I've only just installed a high flow exhaust, do I get better results if I re-tune it on a Dyno? I had a somewhat restrictive exhaust before that. Thanks for the help.

The categorical RPM range falls to that low area because even standard cars have a bitching moment with the shifting between 20-40. Make that amount 35 and up and this improves significantly. Like you say, it makes sense and that catback exhaust could feel versa another. May look into this further to gather a tad more..

Hi nice video as always! Was this cat back test without the weight or did u put the weight back? How did it compare against the weight reduction test? I reckon those figures would be more precise on how the catback exhaust improves performance. Thanks!

@EngineeringExplained

10 жыл бұрын

Allan Kobanawa All tests will be cumulative, so this is with the reduced weight (both tests).

did you calculate the weight of the exhausts. i might have missed it if you mentioned it

Is your engine running cold, or is that just where the gauge settles?

what are the factors affecting the horsepower ? Can you list down the characteristic of a few types of exhaust system

What about fuel economy? Would a high-flow Cat-Converter and Muffler and new exhaust pipe without any built up gunk overtime result in easier flow path for the exhaust gases resulting in less resistance which means better fuel economy?

Will an aftermarket catback exhaust improve fuel economy if I drive conservatively ?

I'd like you to do this with your Subaru, I own a 2013 Legacy 3.6 R and wonder if the DAVC system would benefit more from an exhaust system?

Please do a video for DiY TFT screen /dash for speed and other engine parameters

I installed a cat back because I wanted my truck to be louder. Any HP gain is welcome.

I saw the vid from cold air intake and now this one. Would it be safe to say that since the cold air intake is slower on low rpm's and the catback is faster in low rpm's if you were to use both you would have better results usong them together vs either or?

So is an axle back just for sound and of no consequence to power or acceleration, so much so that it wouldnt even require a retune?

What about catback system with a muffler silencer? Does it decrease performance? I feel like adding the silencer the acceleration feels more responsive.

You should do all these tests again with a turbocharged engine

What exhaust cat back was used? What type of system did it use manage sound? Little secret they them, the ones with the secrets don't tell is that harmonics are used on the more expensive exhaust that's why they cost more. The other cheaper ones use deflection, or a material to dampen to the sound.

I wish someone would just simply do a before and after dyno on it like a video I made on my channel for a supercharger.

So works better at higher rpms..... cant wait to put cat back on my 99 vtec prelude!! BWAAAAHHHHHH

@bob-a-louannamaria7960

4 жыл бұрын

Schmitty 1e1 it’s still gonna be a 99 vtech prelude. 😂🤦🏼‍♂️ yawn

@4door_papi

4 жыл бұрын

Bob-A-Lou Anna Maria its vtec*

@studiopk2004

4 жыл бұрын

Preludes dont go bwaaaaa subies do

What gear do you normally drive in? What was the total percentage of speed increase horsepower? And also with the additional horsepower did a decrease or increase your mpg?

Just wondering if you take into account how much fuel you have in the car when you do these test as that can change the results also. Just a thought.

Hey, I imagine this has been mentioned already, noticed that your vehicle was not up to temperature when you were doing these tests on the 0-40 2nd gear tests from Catback 1 - Catback 2 there is a noticeable difference on where your temperature gauge is pointed. I could also then assume that the tyres were not at temperature and therefore you were not getting a consistent grip on all three tests & the engine was not at peak operating levels. Although I doubt the difference would be high it is important to have a fair scientific test, or at least highlight what makes a test unfair.

@TheRealBmanswan

4 жыл бұрын

If I remember correctly a catback exhaust will help lower your engine temperature since the heat can leave the engine faster and doesn't build up where a catalytic converter normally would be.

If you can next do a comparison to straight pipe vs cat back. Now it can be straight pipe with cat, without cat, also with resonator and without. because there is a lot of aruments that going straight pipe will make you lose power. Even though you are making it eaiser for your engine to breath

@ReefAdvicer

9 жыл бұрын

Yes you do lose hp and torque with out enough backpressure because it helps with harmonics and pulses in the header which help everything run more smooth

@EngineeringExplained

9 жыл бұрын

ReefAdvicer Back pressure is not desired. Exhaust velocity is so that proper scavenging occurs. Back pressure is a result of a restriction, meaning you could be making more power if it did not exist.

@h5ibluntman

9 жыл бұрын

exactly

@ZEN824

8 жыл бұрын

+Blunt Man cat back is even better than a straight pipe. exhaust actually creates a pressure wave, when at the end of the pipe, the wave is going back to the engine. but with cat back, it absorbs the wave and it actually flows better as the exhaust gas flow faster bcause the cat back has a pipe with holes that is wrap with fiber.. the holes traps some air as the velocity increases and that trapped air acts like a lube. same principle as the hydroplaning of a car tire in the rain.

in an audi tt with 260-280 hp its gonna make a significant difference ?! 10 horses up or not

does resonator delete cause power loss? Can you do a video for that please

Is the gps based speedometer reading in Waze is accurate enough to be used? Eg: when i drive @100km/hr (car speedometer), the reading @ waze was around 97km/hr

So why did you say -0.729 instead of -0.719 in between 4:30 and 5:00? Was it just a mistake?

LONG TUBE HEADERS, THEN CATBACK,cast iron manifold with catback haha

do you have a test between aftermarket 4-2-1 headers versus stock ?

Did the fuel economy increased?

This is a performance exhaust on a vtec engine, surely it makes more sense to test a range that is relevant to the performance - ie when the thing is actually on cam, as this is what the exhaust should be designed to do....

@EngineeringExplained

10 жыл бұрын

No vtec.

In Short- more high end power. For the Integra with a B18B like Him and I, you don't have a lot of top end. Where you'd definitely notice is around 5k in 4th gear.

I was thinking about the whiteboard in the background. How about filling it in "in sync" with the video. Like after the first pull with stock and catback, the bord would have that info filled in, but no more.. The way you do it now made me see the results long before you told me about it.. Just a personal opinion.. But it would be more "exciting" for me anyway ;) Great job btw, Whats the next thing you will change?

@EngineeringExplained

10 жыл бұрын

That's what I did with the previous video - I was a bit rushed in getting this one out, as I've been traveling the past three weeks, so I made some sacrifices. Not sure what the next thing I will change will be, need to organize my thoughts. :)

What size diameter is the catback compares to the stock?

Find an open quiet road... and try 4th gear pulls from ~2000rpm to rpm limiter or slightly lower... Like a dyno... but in real road conditions... That way you will have tested all (low,medium,high rpms)... on around 1:1 gear ratio...

when do you take the ice bucket challenge, that brian sent you? :D

You should've done a test with some added weight since the catback system is lighter than the stock one. So you could've just tested if the pipe alone makes a difference (increase or decrease the power).

@user-lv5jw5ry8k

7 жыл бұрын

Xerdoz the weight aspect is part of the test though

did you do a KAM Reset after the mod?

Car should be wicked once it's complete!

do this video again after a tune

Wait, how can the AVERAGE be a lower time than the "Best" for several datapoints of the catback condition?