Anyone else comes back to this call every now and then ? 😂

@Prog47

5 жыл бұрын

@Paul Simon McCarthy I just love when she says: 'that is so messed up' lol. and then when she's cornered she acts offended because matt said fuck

@TiNRiB

5 жыл бұрын

I send Christians I debate with to this.

@andreakramer5062

4 жыл бұрын

It's tradition in my house to exclaim outloud "Excuse me!!??" along with her when she says it....

@shpongled587

4 жыл бұрын

Second time in less than a month for me. I've been on a Jeff Dee binge lately. \m/ '-_-' \m/

@bigtimber

4 жыл бұрын

3 times now purely by accident

"That's so messed up...". The only time she made sense....

@chuanrenlow8506

4 жыл бұрын

Well with regards to the point they made about God creating hell and sending people there if he deems them as bad. According to the logic above, hell is for bad people, which means that there exists a standard for good and bad. In the argument it was also mentioned that God decides the standard and therefore is responsible for who gets sent to hell, and therefore He is saving people from destruction in His own hands. This is what I am going to challenge, based on what Scripture says about God. The Bible states that God is the same yesterday, today and forevermore (Hebrews 13:8). By the definition of being God, He exists since time immemorial, and according to this verse, His attributes also must have remained the same since time immemorial. This means that God is who He is since the beginning of time - His standards for good and bad are not as a result of choice or whim. In other words - God did not simply wake up one day and decide what is good and bad (and who is to be punished if they were bad) because He simply is who He is- the embodiment of good, and He cannot do any evil or condone any evil because He is this way by nature and definition - not by choice. Since God cannot be evil, He cannot condone sin and has no choice but to sacrifice Himself so that when we exchange our sin with His righteousness, only then we can be acceptable to Him in His holiness. If the law punishes someone for breaking it- do we call the law evil? Similarly, for the law, its righteousness must be satisfied, and anyone who breaks it and does something unrighteous in the eyes of the law must be punished. The law exists to protect society. God's law and standards exist to protect what is good.

@peteralleyman1945

4 жыл бұрын

@@chuanrenlow8506 Having actually read the good book, I guess it's fair to say jahweh is the evil one. Unless you think killing without limits is the moral thing to do of course. But hey, he's god. He invented it all, so who are we to blame him?

@jursamaj

4 жыл бұрын

@@chuanrenlow8506 Isaiah 45:7 "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things." Creating evil is itself an evil act. Your bible contradicts itself. If God didn't *choose* what is good and evil, then good and evil are actually random labels, of no consequence themselves. And biblical law doesn't even say what is good and evil, merely what will get you sent to hell (pretty much entirely disobedience of the rules promulgated by the priests). And just so you know, many human laws have been overturned because they *were* evil. And the 1st step to overturning such a law is breaking it. Then you go to court and show the law is itself improper, and get it overturned. For that matter, many biblical laws are simply ignored these days. If God's laws are eternal, why do we eat shellfish now?

@tracer740

3 жыл бұрын

- @@chuanrenlow8506- Shirley, you jest?

@lewisner

4 ай бұрын

​@@chuanrenlow8506if god created everything and everyone and set the parameters for good and evil he could create a world where there were no evil choices available. It would be impossible for people to kill or hurt each other therefore they wouldn't be able to do it. You couldn't make gunpowder therefore no guns etc.

She’s calling to tell you you’re going to hell but she’s offended bc you said a swear word .... oh the irony .

@voiceoftruth2646

5 жыл бұрын

''Hell'' is the NAME of the actual place in the Bible and not a swear word. There is even a town in the US called 'Hell', so are you swearing when you mention the town?...TRIPLE FACEPALM!!! No, there is no ''irony'', just ignorant atheists.

@flipwright1138

5 жыл бұрын

@@voiceoftruth2646 Gigi was referring to when Matt said "Why the fuck did you call". Try to keep up.

@neosapien247

5 жыл бұрын

Voice of TRUTH! Illiterate moron

@michaelsayad5085

4 жыл бұрын

@John Lorton "because that is not how the burden of proof works " The burden of proof is on you the Atheist to prove that God does not exist. The burden of proof is also on the Theist to prove God exists. The burden of proof is not on the agnostic who doesn't mock others for their beliefs and doesn't affirm either proposition that 1. God exists or 2. God does not exist. That's how the burden of proof works and Atheists have been trying to mock Theists for years without shouldering any burden of proof by re-defining Atheism as a lack of belief in God rather than the positive affirmation that he does not exist. You know who has a lack of belief in God? A baby, not an Atheist!!! "Prove to me 12 legged fire breathing unicorn dragons don't exist. I'll wait." 1. There is good evidence that there is no 12 legged fire breathing unicorn dragons that live on earth. I have a positive affirmation that these beings do not exist on earth. I am strictly an agnostic as to whether or not these beings exist in another galaxy or another Universe and someone who claims to have some sort of spiritual experience from a god that tells them that these beings exist in another Universe, I am not allowed to mock because I can't shoulder the burden of proof required. 2. The overwhelming majority of Atheist New Testament scholars agree that the disciples experienced a group hallucination of Jesus so keep pretending that the propositions 1. 12 legged fire breathing unicorn dragons exist and 2. Jesus is the Son of God are analogous. His death on the cross is also a historical fact and the empty tomb is agreed by the majority of New Testament Scholars, too. There is evidence of Jesus' resurrection and even if you don't think it's sufficient there is literally no evidence of your caricature. ""1. "3 days later, Jesus rose again". Friday night to Sunday morning is 36 hours. How exactly is that 3 days? 3 days means we should be calling it "Easter Monday Night". 2. If God was "going to heaven", how exactly was dying on the cross a "sacrifice" ? More like a minor inconvenience, before retiring for a lfetime vacation in paradise.""" 1. He rose on the third day, not 3 days later. Friday, Saturday, Sunday. 1, 2, 3. That was what they called 3 days back then. You're just bringing your cultural bias to the Bible and concluding it's a contradiction. In fact, you're wrong that Easter would have to be at night on Monday, anytime on Monday according to the way we normally count 3 days from my experience works. It doesn't have to be literally 72 hours to be considered 3 days later today. LOL. 2. It's a sacrifice, not an eternal sacrifice. He suffered the wages of sin for all humanity by torment on a cross. How is that not a sacrifice? Calling it a minor inconvenience shows your lack of empathy. How would you like to be tortured by floggings and then being pierced onto a cross? This is just a minor inconvenience! The Christian doctrine also speaks to Jesus' sacrifice as much worse then what was visible to us. He suffered the pain of eternal separation from God in a finite amount of time. Lastly, you admitting that evil exists proves God's existence. He is the grounds of objective moral value. There is no grounds for morality on Atheism. Humans are nothing more than atoms in motion and things that we call evil are completely psychological and have been built into us by the process of Evolution. On Atheism, they are not truly evil!

@michaelsayad5085

4 жыл бұрын

​@John Lorton "Friday night to Saturday. Saturday night to Sunday. 2 days. Friday night to Sunday morning. 36 hours." LOL. You're a child. I explained this is the way time was counted back then and you're still trying to apply the way we count a day today and say it's a contradiction. Have a nice one!

this sums up exactly how manipulative and destructive christianity is

@ATenorSaxophone

5 жыл бұрын

Atheism 100

@voiceoftruth2646

5 жыл бұрын

Prove it.

@flipwright1138

5 жыл бұрын

@@voiceoftruth2646 I am the creator of everything. I predict you will respond. If you respond it will fulfill my prophecy and prove that I am your Lord.

@voiceoftruth2646

5 жыл бұрын

@@flipwright1138 Looks like someone cannot handle the truth!

@flipwright1138

5 жыл бұрын

@@voiceoftruth2646 My prophecy has been fulfilled. You must now bow before me or you will end up in a place of eternal damnation. So speaketh your Lord.

I suffered through a 4 minute advertisement for a Christian KZread channel AND I clicked on it to go to their website so that they would have to pay The Atheist Experience for putting an ad on their channel. I feel like the real MVP here

@undrwatropium3724

Жыл бұрын

I usually report those as in appropriate

“Abuses children mentally by saying they will go to hell if they don’t pray enough” Omg u can’t say the f word

@voiceoftruth2646

5 жыл бұрын

He never said that. More atheist lying, common tactic because it's all you fruit cakes have.

@wizzenberry

5 жыл бұрын

Voice of TRUTH! I’m a Christian ? Also it’s a she not a he Also it was a joke Stop being mad baby

@deanmartin1111

4 жыл бұрын

@@voiceoftruth2646 Don't talk to us about lying when you pretend to know your god exists despite there being 0 evidence for it. If you cared about truth, you wouldn't believe in superstitious fantasies. WHY do you believe your god exists?

@voiceoftruth2646

4 жыл бұрын

@@deanmartin1111 Zero evidence to YOU maybe, not to me. Creation is the evidence of his handy work. When you see a building you know someone made it. Likewise, when I see creation I know the creator exists. God said his creation is such evidence that people are without excuse, that includes YOU. I also know because God revealed himself by the Holy Spirit and the truth of his word. I know from personal experience of the spirit world and I know from many miracles in my life. You could know too, but not as long as you reject him. So not knowing has been your choice. Your comment is self refuting, you cannot be absolutely certain that we cannot know anything for certain unless it's possible to be absolutely certain about something. And if it is, then you've just refuted your own statement!

@leetemple1033

4 жыл бұрын

@@voiceoftruth2646 There are so many fallacies in your comment I dont know where to start. However, I'll pick one... When I see a building, I do indeed know that somebody created it. That will either be because it was created in my lifetime, therefore it was possibly witnessed by me or at least by others still around to confirm it. And, even if it was built before I was born, there is likely to be documented evidence as to construction, citing who created it, and those who create will be human beings whose existence can be proven by other documents, ie a trail. When you see something you attribute to the creator that is your God, you most certainly do not KNOW he created it. In your mind you know, however, your version of 'knowing' just doesnt cut the mustard. Having a feeling or an experience simply doesnt prove anything. Obviously you are going to come back with some regurgitated version of what you've already said. I've spoken to enough blinkered, indoctrinated theists to know that by now. But good luck with your life. It's a life wasted and the sad fact is you will never know that because when you're dead, that'll be it. You don't even get the chance to say "oh bugger, they were right". The irony eh.

Being in heaven with Denise, Portland, OR sounds like being in Hell.

@johnsondailysports1341

4 жыл бұрын

John Jordan 😂😂😂😂😂😝😂

@chuanrenlow8506

4 жыл бұрын

Well with regards to the point they made about God creating hell and sending people there if he deems them as bad. According to the logic above, hell is for bad people, which means that there exists a standard for good and bad. In the argument it was also mentioned that God decides the standard and therefore is responsible for who gets sent to hell, and therefore He is saving people from destruction in His own hands. This is what I am going to challenge, based on what Scripture says about God. The Bible states that God is the same yesterday, today and forevermore (Hebrews 13:8). By the definition of being God, He exists since time immemorial, and according to this verse, His attributes also must have remained the same since time immemorial. This means that God is who He is since the beginning of time - His standards for good and bad are not as a result of choice or whim. In other words - God did not simply wake up one day and decide what is good and bad (and who is to be punished if they were bad) because He simply is who He is- the embodiment of good, and He cannot do any evil or condone any evil because He is this way by nature and definition - not by choice. Since God cannot be evil, He cannot condone sin and has no choice but to sacrifice Himself so that when we exchange our sin with His righteousness, only then we can be acceptable to Him in His holiness. If the law punishes someone for breaking it- do we call the law evil? Similarly, for the law, its righteousness must be satisfied, and anyone who breaks it and does something unrighteous in the eyes of the law must be punished. The law exists to protect society. God's law and standards exist to protect what is good.

@Elmanotas69

4 жыл бұрын

@@chuanrenlow8506 You completely missed the point. Christians are constantly telling atheists that they choose to send themselves to hell for their lack of belief in Christ. That makes absolutely no sense when it was God who decreed that people who do not believe in him should end up in hell. That is like saying that a tyrant of the land goes house to house to give them a "choice": either follow him and live or not follow him and die. According to Christian logic the people who chose to not follow said tyrant die because of their own choosing not because that was the tyrant's decree. Now you might say that God gives us free will therefore he is providing us with a choice. It is not much of a choice when there is a threat of violence like: believe in me and spend eternity in heaven or do not believe in me and spend an eternity in hell. Normally a person would "choose" to believe for fear of going to hell, but is that belief sincere or is it fear? Is that love for Christ or God sincere or merely fear? Also, just because something is a law does not make automatically make it just.

@davidroache8655

4 жыл бұрын

Uh oh...looks like you may have hurt Denise’s feelings and offended her. Denise must have such a hard life with so many big bad atheists throwing logic at her 🤙😂🤣🤪😜

@ljb5163

4 жыл бұрын

Chuan Ren Low Apparently god did change, which is the whole reason people divided the Bible into an old and New Testament.

"Excccuuuuuse me?" Poor Denise has lost her argument to rational thought. Ah, the shame of being out-thought.

@chuanrenlow8506

4 жыл бұрын

Well with regards to the point they made about God creating hell and sending people there if he deems them as bad. According to the logic above, hell is for bad people, which means that there exists a standard for good and bad. In the argument it was also mentioned that God decides the standard and therefore is responsible for who gets sent to hell, and therefore He is saving people from destruction in His own hands. This is what I am going to challenge, based on what Scripture says about God. The Bible states that God is the same yesterday, today and forevermore (Hebrews 13:8). By the definition of being God, He exists since time immemorial, and according to this verse, His attributes also must have remained the same since time immemorial. This means that God is who He is since the beginning of time - His standards for good and bad are not as a result of choice or whim. In other words - God did not simply wake up one day and decide what is good and bad (and who is to be punished if they were bad) because He simply is who He is- the embodiment of good, and He cannot do any evil or condone any evil because He is this way by nature and definition - not by choice. Since God cannot be evil, He cannot condone sin and has no choice but to sacrifice Himself so that when we exchange our sin with His righteousness, only then we can be acceptable to Him in His holiness. If the law punishes someone for breaking it- do we call the law evil? Similarly, for the law, its righteousness must be satisfied, and anyone who breaks it and does something unrighteous in the eyes of the law must be punished. The law exists to protect society. God's law and standards exist to protect what is good.

@krisaaron5771

4 жыл бұрын

@@chuanrenlow8506 Where is your evidence for any of your statements about "God"? Where is the evidence for the existence of a god, much less the Abrahamic god? Provide evidence that such a being exists before offering assumptions and conclusions about what that metaphysical creator wants or intends, and then we can talk.

@chuanrenlow8506

4 жыл бұрын

@@krisaaron5771 I understand your point and I agree that your argument is valid but what I'm doing here is basically arguing the case for the God described in the Bible. As per my argument, the two hosts were basically challenging the Christian God by discussing about what is stated in the Bible, saying it's ridiculous that He put people in hell out of choice and tries to 'bribe' them out of it by asking them to believe in Him when He could simply spare them by choice. As you can see the focus on their discussion here is on the content of the Bible. Therefore I have to use the Bible as the basis to counter their argument. So I guess we're talking about two different topics here.

@krisaaron5771

4 жыл бұрын

@@chuanrenlow8506 I think I understand your point, but I may be wrong. The hosts are challenging the actions and reasoning of a deity based on what was written in the bible. You are presenting a different viewpoint by claiming the bible... is logical? Makes sense? The word of god? If I have that incorrectly, I apologize. But to claim any of the biblical claims are logical or accurate (the "Word of God") requires faith. Without evidence, the biblical and theological emphasis on faith as a virtue is useless. Belief/faith in anything without evidence to substantiate the claims based on that belief/faith rings empty. The hosts are saying it makes no sense to condemn people to hell when the odds or the “contest” is rigged so the condemned individual cannot win. You're saying (again, I may have misunderstood you) that the biblical claims about god and god's motives are valid. Now, we already have the writers' words about the claims and motivation of the deity in question. But if the CONTENTS of the Bible are based on irrational reasoning, I don't see how you can use the bible as the basis to counter the hosts' argument. Example: Donald claims has a cure for a deadly disease. He has little to no scientific proof for his claim, only a “hunch”, a “feeling”. He argues that his hunch and his feeling are a substitute for evidence. But even if his “cure” is eventually proven to work, all his hunches and feelings are worthless because he can't prove he has psychic powers to see the future and he doesn't have the education to back up his hunch/feeling. We don't rely on hunches and feelings to prove science, even though scientists may follow their hunches and feelings to find an answer to a problem. They're already scientists and working from solid knowledge and a usable base of evidence, so their hunches and feelings are coming from years of education and experience. Donald doesn't have any of that; he's a gambler, not a scientist. He threw the dice and made a bet; that's all his hunch and feeling are. A bet, with nothing to back it up. It's like betting that the number of gumballs in the jar is odd and not even. There's no evidence or logic to back up that bet. That's what arguing about god's intent is. We can criticize and debate the biblical writers' reasoning on a topic, but we can't pretend that a metaphysical being is real and has given those writers particular insight because we don't have solid evidence proving their insights came from an actual god and not pulled out of their... Please forgive me if I've misunderstood your position on the topic.

@DForce26

4 жыл бұрын

I have that as my notification sound on my phone :p

This is the kind of language that abusers use to trick their victims into blaming themselves instead. "I made it clear what would happen if you disobeyed me. And you disobeyed me. That means you chose the beating that's coming to you." Not only does the victim believe that what's happening is their fault, but they also believe that their abuser is blameless. It's sick.

@michelepaige8080

7 ай бұрын

Assuming that God, as the Creator, has no rights (no sovereignty), but is that a reasonable position? Can your parents make no demands upon you that other people cannot? If a pregnant woman can choose to abort her child, why can't God choose whether you live or die? Doesn't He stand in the same position? [Remember that you in relationship to eternal life are pretty much in the same position as a fetus in relation to this life in your answer.]

@BigSlimyBlob

7 ай бұрын

​@@michelepaige8080 I imagine that you're playing christian's advocate and making an exceedingly poor argument on purpose, but I'll answer anyway. A child needs to learn how to live in society, so it's perfectly reasonable for a parents to have some level of authority over their children for part of their lives. However, that authority is highly limited. You can't do anything you want to your children just because you made them. You can't torture them if they disobey, you can't murder them if they disobey, And you can't gaslight the child by misassigning blame (as described earlier), or that child will grow up to be messed up, and probably abuse their own children too. Additionally, after a child grows up, the parent has no right over it anymore; having created a child doesn't mean you can enslave that child for life. Especially not if you somehow have the magic power to make that child live forever. A pregnant women is not at all in the same position as some sky wizard with the power to create people and give them a second, eternal existence. First, an embryo or early fetus isn't a person. Second, even if they were, they would be mostly mindless and not autonomous), while a sky wizard making a fully formed person would be dealing not only with an actual person, but an autonomous one, and the wizard would have no right to tell it to do anything unless the person were violating the wizard's basic personal rights. Third, the sky wizard's creation isn't using the sky wizard as an incubator (and certainly not against its will) so the sky wizard can't call upon its right to bodily autonomy to let its creation die. Fourth, a woman terminating an embryo's existence is where the story ends. Even if it were left to become a person, would have a limited-time existence. But the sky-wizard's creation would (in the scenario you're describing) exist forever in its secondary, after-death form, even if the sky wizard murdered this person. Oh, and it's much, much worse than that, because the wizard is doing this even to its creation's descendants, people that he didn't in fact create. 1. A woman chooses to abort an embryo that is not a person and that even if it were would have no right to use her body as an incubator 2. A sky wizard makes unreasonable demands of an adult person he created, and when the adult doesn't obey, the wizard murders that person, magically makes them keep existing forever after death, and tortures them for eternity Do you think the embryo and the creation are "pretty much in the same situation"? Would you rather be the embryo that doesn't get to become a person, or the wizard's creation who gets murdered and tortured forever if it doesn't agree to live as a slave? We are fortunate that the absolute monster in scenario 2 is only a work of fiction, the creation of primitive people in the middle-east who didn't have the means to understand the universe and made up very very silly stories to fill in the blanks. If humanity discovered that this wizard was real, it would have to focus all its efforts into finding it and killing it.

Happiness is never having to fear burning in hell for eternity.

@alvarogoenaga3965

3 ай бұрын

..and never to say I am sorry for being skeptical.

God: I stand at the door, and knock. Let me in. Me: Why? God: So I can save you. Me: Save me from what? God: What I'm going to do to you if you don't let me in.

@arimfshapiro7907

4 жыл бұрын

lol

@En_theo

4 жыл бұрын

Best knock-knock joke ever :)

@chiragrulze

4 жыл бұрын

Save you from his justice.

@arimfshapiro7907

4 жыл бұрын

@@followerofchrist9800 Fairy tale. You must be a weak person to need to threaten people.

@alanstone3171

4 жыл бұрын

@Ari "Oh that is so messed up."

I broke off a 25+ year friendship with a female that acted almost exactly like this woman. The arrogance is strong in these type of people.

@lionofjudahlambofgod9132

3 жыл бұрын

If youre angry and you know it clap your hand. If youre angry and you know it clap your hand. If youre angry and you know it and you hate God so you show it. If youre angry and you know it clap your hand. If blame God for your dead pet clap your hands. If you blame God for your dead pet clap your hands. If you blame God cuz hes dead now and the car who hit him sped off. If you blame God for your sorrows clap your hand.

@vcvortex6356

3 жыл бұрын

@@lionofjudahlambofgod9132 Kinda hard to be angry at something that doesn't exist. Now if you will excuse me, I have to feed my unicorn that Bigfoot gave me.

@jimbobeire

2 жыл бұрын

@@lionofjudahlambofgod9132 You didn't think that one through did you? Slaves might hate their slavemaster, but they begrudgingly do what he demands because they know there are consequences. They'd hate him but they'd obey. Now, if they'd never seen a slavemaster, never heard one, and had no proof there ever was one, they'd be puzzled why the other workers on the farm kept toiling away in fear and never venturing outside the plantation . That person would not 'hate' the slavemaster, cos he's realised there really isn't a slavemaster. Who he'll hate is the person who tries to fool him into thinking he must keep toiling on that farm, rather than be free.

@AmbersKnight

Жыл бұрын

@@lionofjudahlambofgod9132 I am not angry at a being that doesn't exist. I am angry at the hatred and bigotry of worshippers against those they don't like simply because the deity they have no proof exists says so. It means that those worshippers have no moral compass and are in fact moral cowards as they are following not because the deity they follow is actually good or caring and just, but because they know he is a vain, frangile'd ego, despotic tyrant and are afraid to cross him.

@ex.hindu.now.atheist

Жыл бұрын

@@AmbersKnight "I am not angry at a being that doesn't exist [...] he is a vain, frangile'd ego, despotic tyrant and are afraid to cross him." ====================================== I do not know whether ANY god exists or not; nevertheless, your words pretty much speak for me too.

It's so arrogant to believe that everybody else is accountable to YOUR imaginary friend, that you don't even have evidence for.

@Rob-fc9wg

2 жыл бұрын

Too right mate.

Every time a caller gets offended by Matt's language, all I hear is "I've realized I have no solid ground to stand on so I'm going to attack his character."

The caller's sneering tone makes my skin crawl.😖

@TorontoLibertarian

3 жыл бұрын

EX-Ski-Use Me?!!

Jeff Dee's eyebrows are surely evidence of intelligent design.

@strawberryfields9762

5 жыл бұрын

Dang right😂

@Emi86293

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the laugh

@jeffhart9916

5 жыл бұрын

DARTH MONG he has Jack Nicholson eyebrows. Or the eyebrows in the Mask with Jim Carrey.

@emmaalvarez1794

5 жыл бұрын

No its clearly a sign of a Satanist...

@ericmishima

4 жыл бұрын

Obviously a Romulan.

Imagine if a thief holds a gun to your head, you refuse to give him money and he kills you for it. According to her logic, you just committed suicide and the murderer did nothing wrong.

@michelepaige8080

7 ай бұрын

Straw man. In this analogy, God created you & thus He's a sovereign. If the government does the same thing, it's taxation because sovereignty changes the legality/morality of otherwise identical actions.

@charlie_zzz6456

7 ай бұрын

@@michelepaige8080 1. God’s existence has not been proven, therefore, it hasn’t been proved that any god created you. 2. Creating any being doesn’t give you the right to torture it or kill it. Torture and murder is objectively wrong, no matter who does it, even if it is an all powerful entity aka god.

@officialpigeons9921

7 ай бұрын

@@michelepaige8080 Oh okay then, let's fix the analogy. Imagine your Mum holds a gun to your head and demands money and if you don't it's your fault if she kills you. Is that better? 😂

@michelepaige8080

7 ай бұрын

@@charlie_zzz6456 So you oppose abortion? If a woman has a right to abort her baby, then why can't God abort you?

@michelepaige8080

7 ай бұрын

@@officialpigeons9921 So you oppose abortion? If your Mum can kill you for any reason she likes, why can't God do the same?

"Do atheists go to hell?" Yes, just about every time we speak with Christians about religion.

@Fullyautomagic

2 жыл бұрын

You’ve just won a million dollars

@ronitsrivastava377

5 ай бұрын

There is a verse suggesting that?

One of my favorite "call ins", to any show, ever.

@TiNRiB

5 жыл бұрын

I think I have watched this 100 times.

@avedic

4 жыл бұрын

No kidding. I'm literally coming back to watch this in 2020...and I saw it live when it first aired. It's just so entertaining...never gets old. Denise is NUTS...

@avedic

4 жыл бұрын

No kidding. I'm literally coming back to watch this in 2020...and I saw it live when it first aired. It's just so entertaining...never gets old. Denise is NUTS...

@thecapone45

Жыл бұрын

Back in 2023.

@harrypothead42024

Жыл бұрын

@@thecapone45 I don't watch anymore

Caller: Your all going to hell and your soul will burn in eternal damnation Also Caller: excuse me!! you can't be more civil with out using filthy language

@stevem2529

2 жыл бұрын

😂

If the only reason to believe is fear of hell, You didn't CHOOSE Christianity, you were FORCED to. That's why they do infant baptism. NO CHOICE! You've been had!

If Denise is going to “heaven” ... then I’ll send myself to hell.

@jdoe7674

2 жыл бұрын

Ironically that’s along the lines of her position but she thinks your choosing hell because your evil and everyone in heaven is good but now that I’m no longer a “Christian” it’s blatantly obvious that it’s the other way around

@michelepaige8080

7 ай бұрын

So why would you be aggrieved by a God who gives you what you want? Your whole argument here appears to be God owes you Heaven even as you claim you wouldn't want it - lucky you, God gave you that choice. Problem solved.

The argument "they send themselves there" is like saying to rape victims "you raped yourself" simply because they didn't stay at home.

@Fullyautomagic

2 жыл бұрын

Don’t go into the wolf pack wearing meat

@Socomhunter

2 жыл бұрын

@@Fullyautomagic nice analogy, doesn't apply everywhere unfortunately :p in case of atheism it would be "don't run around in case there's a wolf pack roaming the streets that nobody has seen yet that could kill you".

@michelepaige8080

7 ай бұрын

Again, all these arguments presuppose that God is not sovereign and/or sovereignty isn't a thing. If I demanded that you call me regularly, you'd properly complain; if your parents make the same demand, you'd have some trouble explaining your refusal. Creating someone does create some obligations, no? To put it another way, if you can decide whether or not to abort your child, why can't God decide whether or not you'll live? Aren't He and the pregnant woman in the same position?

@Socomhunter

7 ай бұрын

@@michelepaige8080 My parents have fuck-all to demand. I'm not their property. If my parents give me a choice what to do (which god supposedly does) they can't punish me afterwards for making that choice. There's a difference with your parents disapproving of your choice & to ignore you if anything and punishing them by eternal torture. If you honestly think your argument makes any sense you're brainwashed. And no it's not the same as a fetus is not a person yet. It's not a concious living being during the stages that abortus is allowed no matter how uneducated you are. They're just not a living being. Neither is your sperm.

@robhaskins

2 ай бұрын

She probably believes that too.

She loved that swear word really. She was losing the debate, so found it a way of diversion.

@92brunod

3 жыл бұрын

MANY people do that, and yeah, specially women. When they are losing any discussion they get increasingly annoying so you say a "bad word" and they act as if that's worse than anything that has ever happened in the history of the world.

This woman called in with the intention of chastising some atheists and asserting her beliefs, not participating in constructive conversation.

"Im trying to love you but you reject my love. I dont beat you, you cause yourself to be beaten by me. If you dont choose that, then choose to love me!" There ain't no hate like Christian love.

I go to church mostly because I live in a semi rural place and it's like the community meeting spot to get to know the people but this lady needs to understand atheists are people just like her. Telling someone they're going to hell isnt exactly a good way to make friends with people.

I've watched this several times, still love this particular call

I never rejected God. I simply discovered that theists' claims for God's existence do not stand up to rational scrutiny.

"I am a Christian and make no bones about it!" "Okay" *LOOOOOONG PAUSE* She was waiting for them to insult her. Shows her state of mind and she planned to be "persecuted".

This call needs an award of some kind. Holy shit, that was something else.

*Why would anyone worship a God that could allow his creations, for any reason, to be tortured for eternity?*

@paulrichards6894

2 жыл бұрын

ask denise

Happy 10 year anniversary to this call. I bet she still tells people at her church about that time an atheist said a naughty word while she was explaining why the deserve to go to hell.

@AlanCanon2222

10 ай бұрын

13 years now. I hope she's still as miserable as she sounds on this call. Or else that she's deconverted, for her own good and the people in her community. I don't hold out much hope these days.

Love this clip. Sums up how closed minded & brainwashed people can be when it comes to religion

@canbest7668

7 ай бұрын

Yep. A display of idiots.

The tone she has is really annoying. It's like she's full of herself or feels that they are beneath her.

Every wife and child beater uses the same excuse, "the victim made me beat them"."

Believers becoming atheists isn’t disheartening; it is the most *liberating* thing a believer could do.

The 'Gimme $100' analogy is perfect.

It's my *FREE WILL* that I don't want to go to hell.. now what?

Legend has it, that Denise is still in shock of the F-bomb that was dropped on that unfaithful day.

Well, the fearmongering worked on her...

God: you’re going to hell cause you didn’t follow me. Me: Reverse card

@voiceoftruth2646

5 жыл бұрын

Jesus came to save us from it. So yes, rejecting the lifeline WILL send you to Hell.

@Mystrohan

4 жыл бұрын

Voice of TRUTH! If a God creates a Hell and then sends his son to solicit payment as a price for not going there.... then he’s the one doing sending the humans to hell. Simple.

@Stasiaflonase

4 жыл бұрын

That god sucker voice of truth gets skipped again.

@leetemple1033

4 жыл бұрын

@@voiceoftruth2646 So god creates hell, then sends and sacrifices his son to save us from going there, even though he created it. And then, if we dont believe in him we have to go there and burn for eternity. The fact that you dont see anything morally questionable about that is aa good an advert for atheism as there's ever likely to be.

@thelosttomato4020

3 жыл бұрын

@@voiceoftruth2646 Who created those rules? Your 'God' did right? So, he did cause my entry into this place called 'hell'.

I do not personally believe in the concept of heaven and hell, but if it turns out there is a heaven and it's full of sanctimonious, smug Christians telling you until the end of time that they were right all along and that's why Uncke Morty won't be joining us (!) well, the fires of hell begin to sound like quite a good option...!!

My god I hope this woman didn’t procreate.

@rishabhkashyap690

5 жыл бұрын

Because that would be fucking.

@sousay2000

4 жыл бұрын

Black Heart 👍

@whoputyouontheplanet3345

4 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, she most likely did, because Christian women are usually baby factories.

@Sibogy

4 жыл бұрын

Most of these people like her do.

@whoputyouontheplanet3345

3 жыл бұрын

@DrumpTard Zionist Collusion I agree.

Thank god that he saved my friend from being killed in a car accident..Just because of that he missed saving a couple of tens of thousnds of people dying in Syrian war...

Have you noticed that whenever anyone speaks of dead people they use the words "I am sure they are looking down on this now" or words to that effect. It seems everyone's friends always go to heaven and never to hell. Did you ever hear a Christian say ""I know that they are screaming with pain and looking up at us with regret". Has anyone ever heard of that phrase being used?

@michelepaige8080

7 ай бұрын

Interesting point; of course, speculating about who's in Hell is not only somewhat frowned upon in Christian theology, it's also highly rude, so I don't think it proves what you think it proves (as it's just as likely to be a result of common courtesy as any theological/logical issue).

My friend is going to burn Denise’s house down if she doesn’t send him $1000. - If my friend doesn’t receive the $1000 and he does burn down Denise’s house, Denise should not be able to claim the insurance money because she actually burned her own house down! In fact, Denise should probably go to jail for arson and be liable for any damage to neighboring homes from the fire that she could have easily prevented!

@jdoe7674

2 жыл бұрын

“Oh ThAtS sO mEsSEd uP!!?!?”

This is what can happen when a mother stays home too much.

Jeff's eyebrows looking like goat horns 😅😂

Many of the atheists who are former believers are those who have actually read the whole Bible. As Bertrand Russell pointed out, "Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived."

Yes Denise it's so tough being a christian in the USA.

I get tickled every time Matt says "fuck" ...and she responds with "excuuuuuuseee meeee?" 🤣😂

Too many people like her. A sad fact of reality.

Her " excuse me?!!" Is my ringtone 😁

Where was god whne my parents died of cancer and heart attack? I think that S/ HE was in Africa NOT saving the children dying from starvation, AIDS etc...

If god knows everything that was is & yet to be. He knew everything i was going to say & do before i was even conceived. Therefore it's all his fault not mine.

@semperfi1723

5 жыл бұрын

For since the creation of the world the invisible things of Him are clearly seen - even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse. - Romans 1:20

@stickiedmin6508

5 жыл бұрын

@@semperfi1723 What things? I don't see them?

@flipwright1138

5 жыл бұрын

@@voiceoftruth2646 Tell y'what man, talkin bout ol sly fox man, dang ol voice of truth is, y'know man,

@voiceoftruth2646

5 жыл бұрын

@@flipwright1138 Looks like someone cannot handle the truth!

@davon_DaGod

4 жыл бұрын

@@voiceoftruth2646 What's the truth? Lol

my biggest pet peeve on earth is people getting all bent out of shape over certain words. or say not to curse. its soooo ridiculous.

EXCUSE ME????😂😂😂

3:12 fresh breath gargle lol Denise's voice reminds me quite of bit of the voice of Rose from the 2011 film The Caller. LOVE that film. :)

Her statement makes no sense! I'm an atheist and i can't choose to believe in God so if go to hell, it's not Voluntarily. If I go to tell for not believing in God then there is nothing I can do about it because I can't choose to believe in God.

@92brunod

3 жыл бұрын

Yup, fear is the basis of the religion to keep people from leaving.

She said God threw him a lifeline but never said why God threw him in the water in the first place.

This is why you shouldn’t have 3 glasses of Chardonnay before making a phone call

Imagine torturing innocent people for ever because they don't know Jesus. Millions of people throughout history have died without knowing Jesus. None of us are born knowing Jesus. It's a cruel system.

@chrisgraham2904

3 жыл бұрын

Don't drink the Cool Aide.

@tedgrant2

3 жыл бұрын

@@chrisgraham2904 Funny

@michellepeoplelikeyoumurde8373

11 ай бұрын

Billions have not heard of christianity

@tedgrant2

11 ай бұрын

@@michellepeoplelikeyoumurde8373 And they will be punished, for ever

"" That Logic is a real Pain in the Ass " ....Class

God created hell for satan/lucifer and then made satan boss of that same hell?! To torture every human who was not nice to him? Where is the logic?

"ExCuUSe meeeee?" Lmao

"Excuse meeeee..." tHAT HAD ME DEAD

This is the definitive call to this show, logic v delusion and umbrage at reality.

Hell does not exist !! Never was and never is !!

Hell is made to control people to believe

@chiragrulze

4 жыл бұрын

Hell was made to punish the wicked.

@williamsullivan1145

4 жыл бұрын

@@chiragrulze not real

@tmikeb28

4 жыл бұрын

Yep. Follow these instructions, do what we say and give us your money or you will burn for eternity. Don't think, just pray.

@chiragrulze

4 жыл бұрын

@@tmikeb28 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; it is the gift of God: Not of works" - Ephesians 2:8-9 "All our righteousnesses are as filthy rags." - Isaiah 64:6

@chiragrulze

4 жыл бұрын

I was an atheist, until me, my non-christian friends and sister had encounters with Jesus Christ, through supernatural miracles, healings, outerbody experiences and near death experience. One God, one way, its Jesus. Repent and follow him to do & see supernatural miracles . If you're not with Jesus, you are against Jesus.

Love Jeff and Matt as hosts

As an Atheist, we do not believe in a God or a Heaven. We also, do not believe that a Satan or a Hell exist. If a God would not allow you to enter Heaven if you don't believe in God, what makes you believe that a Satan would allow you to enter Hell if you don't believe in Satan.

All you have to ask a Christian is “how much work they did for their salvation?” And if they say “none, that Jesus did 100% of the work for my salvation.” Then ask them “then why isn’t so-and-so saved?” Christian’s believe it’s the decision, which means they did have to do some work in order to be saved, even tho they claim Jesus did 100% of the work for their salvation on the cross. They just can’t admit how hypocritical and illogical their thinking is.

@wonderful4life

9 ай бұрын

This comment deserves more likes!!!❤❤❤❤

@michelepaige8080

7 ай бұрын

That assumes that a decision is "work." (The decision is actually grace, or the Holy Spirit's work in you.) In Christian theology, it isn't work (or, perhaps more accurately, it's not YOUR work, it's the Spirit's work in you). To avoid a straw man, you must give the other side its argument, not yours. In short, you make the choice, but God (through the Spirit) does the work.

@wonderful4life

7 ай бұрын

@@michelepaige8080 Thats what the indoctrination teaches theists: There is no Holy Spirit Activate, they are doing 100% of the work & the HS has been exposed as an act from many christians. People catch the "Holy Spirit" in wikd night clubs & rock concerts, Ironically. 🤔

Matt ur a legend.

I fucking love what Dillahunty says about profanity at the end there. Don't call in to a show centered around mature topics if you aren't mature enough to handle words like fuck

The most awful thing about the concept of people going to hell, if there would be one, isn't so much how one would get there, but the idea that angels and demons can apparently come and go as they please yet humans supposedly can't. The idea that god would create humans powerless and feeble compared to angels and demons to that extent, means that god would be an extremely despicable being for creating such a huge difference in capabilities between the humans, and the angels and demons. If angels and demons have a shitload of powers and can come and go as they please, and even go to and from heaven as they please like satan apparently did in the book of job, then humans should be able to as well.

Why would atheists go to hell? They are just skeptic and careful who to trust. It's a good trait. They don't blindly follow the herd.

@followerofchrist9800

4 жыл бұрын

Because they deny God. That’s why.

@Strugglebaddy616

4 жыл бұрын

@@followerofchrist9800 Well, if god was able to convince everybody, they WOULDN'T have to deny it. To deny something exists, one has to be unconvinced of its existence. You cannot believe something without being convinced because you have to be convinced in order to believe. Being convinced is not a choice, therefore we are not willingly denying it. We just CAN'T believe it.

@bloodrain4361

4 жыл бұрын

@@followerofchrist9800 NOT A REASON FOR TORTURE DUMBASS

@bloodrain4361

4 жыл бұрын

@@Strugglebaddy616 NOT A REASON FOR ETERNAL TORTURE

@chrisgraham2904

3 жыл бұрын

So the criminal, murdering mob boss confesses his sins, repents and accepts Jesus Christ on his death bed and he is accepted into Heaven. The Atheist who lives a loving and moral life and has never caused harm to another human being or living creature goes to Hell because he didn't believe what men wrote about a God. Fucked Up!

Denise is a classic 'close-mind'. Nothing short of an abrupt hammer blow or being dropped on her head may alter that rut into which her 'mind' is inexorably entrenched. To put it more simply, she has willingly allowed herself to be 'mind-fucked'. Next-

Her elevator does not go all the way up. 😳

0:58 Matt looking at Jeff like "This caller just messed it up... any time now he'll explode"

God(father): "Hmmm, that's a pretty nice soul you've got there. Be a shame if something happened to it..."

Religion loves the irrational .

"Then why the fuck did you call"? "EXCUSE ME"!?!? 😂

The truth be told she was relieved when you said fuck because that gave her an excuse to get out of the kitchen because she knew where this was ending up. The same place all other callers end up.

I love it when they get a `full blown crazy’.

I didn't know the tone police was also heaven's gestapo. I guess "no naughty words" must be one of the lost commandments.

This sounds like my mom, cannot answer any questions when you have the answers

Hmmm. Fear does stop thought.

Uh-oh. Karen's tender little ears couldn't withstand that naughty cussy word. Oops. I meant Denise. ;)

EXCUSE MEEeEeee??!!

Love you guys

Anyone wanna bet that Denise has multiple cats and a box wine subscription? You can just hear the *fat* in her voice! 😂😂😂

As a someone who believes in god, I don’t think it’s fair to go to hell for disbelief. There’s not many signs that are given out and I understand why people might not believe in god. I do though, yet genuinely not knowing something, you shouldn’t be into fault for that. There’s not actual signs.

@chiragrulze

4 жыл бұрын

Jesus said if you deny God, he will deny you. - Matthew 10:33. I was a hardcore atheist. Until me and many friends had supernatural experiences, no could explain, including supernatural instant healing, near death, outer body, casting out demons etc, all included Jesus and fully biblical. Jesus is the only way, no other way.

@herascousin9174

3 жыл бұрын

@@chiragrulze ALLAH IS THE ONLY WAY THATS THE ONLY WAY IN YOUR BELIEFS JESUS AINT ALLAH IS AN ZUES

@chiragrulze

3 жыл бұрын

@@herascousin9174 "For Allah so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." - John 3:16 bible

@chrisgraham2904

3 жыл бұрын

It's always the fault of the puppet master...not the puppet.

@kennynino8475

3 жыл бұрын

year later. Believe in a god but definitely not in religion

I've been told that God and Jesus love me very much. They love everybody. They love Hitler. They even love Satan ! No worries.

She comes in mono logging like a super villain. Lol

Portland OR explains everything with this caller

Lets all be honest she does not know what she is talking about

Hahaha I just found this channel now... love it

I loved Jeff.

Why do so many callers sound as though they've had a little bit too much "Dutch courage" ??