Don't know, i haven't talked to every atheist.

@storytimewithunclekumaran5004

Ай бұрын

but if you did ???

@joshsheridan9511

Ай бұрын

​@@storytimewithunclekumaran5004then we probably wouldn't agree.

@MarkMiller-gt5tu

Ай бұрын

​@@storytimewithunclekumaran5004I've fallen on hard times. Do you think you could help me out with a 😊 happy meal?

@hjalmarolethorchristensen9761

Ай бұрын

Hallo, atheist here, 🇩🇰

@hjalmarolethorchristensen9761

Ай бұрын

​@@joshsheridan9511not on the god question, cos' atheism just means the i do not believe in a god or gods...

For the love of gods that we don’t believe in… Theists, please, PLEASE understand: When you begin a sentence with “do all atheists think that…,” UNLESS THE NEXT PHRASE IS, “gods do not exist,” then the answer will always be: NO!! The only thing on which atheists agree is that gods do not exist. That’s it. It’s not a club… we don’t have jackets, or membership cards, or prescriptive friggen dogma. I hope that clears things up… so endeth the sermon.

@rbwinn3

Ай бұрын

I certainly agree with that. Do atheists think? No.

@benoitbrown9400

Ай бұрын

@@rbwinn3 Would my thinking about god change that we have no evidence for the existence of one? No. You're specifically saying we don't waste time on pointless nonsense lol.

@DanielRodriguez-zj5il

Ай бұрын

Thinking differently than you is not the same as not thinking at all.

@nealrobels4050

Ай бұрын

Atheism is not a belief it's a disbelief. Atheism is an unwillingness or inability to accept God. That's not the same thing as believing God doesn't exist. For example if you're in a coma and don't have the capability of thinking you wouldn't be able to accept God and that's what would make you an atheist you wouldn't believe that God doesn't exist you would be incapable of thought.

@nealrobels4050

Ай бұрын

PS if you're claiming that atheism is a belief system than atheism has a burden of proof. Can you tell me why you believe the origins of Life came into existence without creation without God?

I love how theists think atheists are a monolith and that they have them all figured out.

@holgerlubotzki3469

Ай бұрын

It's particularly funny given that the 2.4 billion bible believers in the world have arrived at 2.4 billion versions of their religion.

@waynedexter

Ай бұрын

@@holgerlubotzki3469 tru dat 😂

@holgerlubotzki3469

Ай бұрын

@@waynedexter You'd think they'd all get together and sort out the the details before coming out here to tell us atheists how it is.

@nealrobels4050

Ай бұрын

​@@holgerlubotzki3469you'd figure atheist would understand that atheism is a disbelief which means it's an unwillingness or inability to accept God. But most atheists at least claim they don't comprehend that.

@holgerlubotzki3469

Ай бұрын

@@nealrobels4050 It is not an unwillingness or inability. It is simply a matter of not being convinced of the claims that the mythological tribal war g0d of one particular tribe of bronze age desert nomads is actually real or has any meaning or relevance in the modern age. You'd figure that adults who believe in such childish fairy tale nonsense would understand that they need more than just a book of wholly fables to convince critical thinkers.

The advert that came up at the start of this video was for "a biblical cure for toenail fungus". I've officially seen it all now.

@holgerlubotzki3469

Ай бұрын

Let me guess.. The biblical cure for toenail fungus is amputation?

@AbsurdlyGeeky

Ай бұрын

​@holgerlubotzki3469 exactly what I was going to suggest lol

@holgerlubotzki3469

Ай бұрын

@@AbsurdlyGeeky It's was obvious given the biblical cure for foreskin fungus!

@joelpartee594

Ай бұрын

As was prophesied of old He got toe jam football He shoot holy roller

@PomPom123Boo

Ай бұрын

@@joelpartee594 He got monkey finger, he shoot Coca-Cola.

OK, seems I've found my nomination for the 'Dumbest Comment of the Night' award early tonight: _"Many guys think they are trans just because they like things socially attributed to girls like barbies and some colours."_ ~ Posted by newstart1983

@Gankstomper

Ай бұрын

Rare moment of it coming from an atheist (apparently)

@RickLambert963

Ай бұрын

Primary example of the origins of what Elon Musk calls woke mind virus. Godless disconnected seven colors alphabet clown world. Belief/disbelief based deductions strike again. Gatheist need anatheism. That's the only way back to oceanic feeling. Gender ideology is pseudoscience scientism. Gatheist have been bamboozled with BS (belief/disbelief systems). Only one percent believe such nonsense, to the rest of the world gender and sex are synonymous. John Money didn't believe in such nonsense either. Are you one of these they/them pronouns with infinite imaginary "genders"? If so, look up something called gender dysphoria in the DSM. The ADA will be happy to help you navigate through seven color alphabet clown world. Learn how to use pronouns properly. I am a male. I have a friend. He is male also. That's how pronouns work. I am a male. I have a friend. She is male. That's how pronouns don't work. She isn't a pronoun for male. I have friends. They are males and females. That's how pronouns work. I have they, them, theirs, themselves, he, him, his, himself, she, her, herself, it, its, itself. That's how pronouns don't work. Third-person pronouns is how we refer to others. Confused individuals having an identity crisis are lost in pronouns because they don't understand the difference between identity and character/personality. My identity is my name, 5 foot 11 inches tall, 190 lbs, brown hair, brown eyes, caucasian, and born male in 1963. That's of public concern. What I do with that identity including how I dress, the kind of car I drive, how I act, how I speak, my sexual preferences... my character/personality, aren't of public concern; to each their own. This is what we're supposed to teach our children. This LGBTQ nonsensical philosophy doesn't even like to acknowledge that B stands for bisexual; meaning that there are only two genders in nature, male and female, and hermaphrodites are both. It's ridiculously absurd to say that there are more than two genders. Sex/gender should remain synonymous instead of blurring the difference between identity and character/personality. Identitify as a lamp, fine, plug yourself in and turn yourself on. Have yourself pronouns of they/them, whatever. I won't participate in your delusional illusions or use improper grammar. I'm happy to comply with the ADA requirements of accommodations for mental disorders. These are reasonable accommodations. If this isn't good enough for you, step off. This isn't hate speech. Seriously. I recently saw "non-binary" T-shirts in men's and women's styles. Priceless fok'n hilarious. In 1966, Dr. Money founded the Gender Identity Clinic at Johns Hopkins University and started an extensive research program on the psychohormonal treatment of paraphilias and on sex reassignment. Money formulated, defined, and coined the term "gender role" and later expanded it to gender-identity/role (G-I/R). Gender identity disorder was used for its diagnostic name when it was introduced into DSM-III in1980. With the publication of DSM-5 in 2013, “gender identity disorder” was eliminated and replaced with “gender dysphoria.” Gender dysphoria (GD), according to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental disorders (DSM 5), is defined as a "marked incongruence between their experienced or expressed gender and the one they were assigned at birh." People with gender dysphoria are entitled under the ADA to receive reasonable accommodations and are protected from discrimination. Homosexuality was classified as a mental disorder in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders beginning with the first edition, published in 1952 by the American Psychiatric Association. The APA removed homosexuality from the DSM in 1973, replacing it with the category of "sexual orientation disturbance". This category was a compromise between the view that homosexuality is a mental disorder and the view that it is a normal sexual variant. The DSM-III (1980) replaced the sexual orientation disturbance category with the diagnosis of "ego-dystonic homosexuality". Describes people who experience distress from homosexual feelings, fantasies, or behaviors that conflict with their desired heterosexual orientation. Pet psychiatrists are academic professionals who have studied animal behavior. They are sometimes called pet therapists, an animal communicator or pet behaviorists as well. They know how to address your pet's problem in a positive way. It can be difficult to attribute human conditions to non-human animals. Animals can have mental disorders, including anxiety, depression, and compulsive behaviors. I have farm cats. A big gray one dominates them all when outdoors. He constantly tries to "have his way" including the other male cats. At feeding time in the shelter he gets really submissive like he's begging for food because all the other cats shun, hiss, and swat him. I give him his own bowl.

@TonyAMO

Ай бұрын

You can be a cig guy and still like girly things. It's called being a femboy

@HystericalSej

28 күн бұрын

Even if that were the case, which I'd argue it's not, wouldn't the reason they think they're transgender be because society keeps boxing us in and telling us we can't like pink or makeup or dresses or flowers or emotions or anything that doesn't make us bland pieces of cardboard, and if we do it's because we're following the transgender "trend"? That has nothing to do with being transgender or transgender people. I personally have never heard any transperson or trans advocate say if a boy likes pink, he's transgender or gay. IIRC what we've been saying FOR !@#$ING YEARS is to stop reinforcing toxic gender stereotypes and then discriminating against people who don't conform. Furthermore of all the transgender women I've listened to, none of them are transgender because "they like pink and barbies". I don't consider myself transgender but I do like pink and, well not really barbies but I like ponies. Why must people be so intentionally ignorant all the time? I'm referring to 1983.

Conflating atheism with gender fluidity is bizarre!

@benjaminmadrigalperez9010

Ай бұрын

It's not when You think though the lens of Christian absolutism.

@markweber4776

Ай бұрын

@@benjaminmadrigalperez9010 rather than atheist experience absolutism...

@food4thort

Ай бұрын

@@benjaminmadrigalperez9010 But that just plays into the argument that atheism is a 'worldview' when its nothing more than 'no good reason to believe there is a god (or gods)'.

As a lifelong atheist, I've held both positions. When I was first introduced to the concept of gender fluidity, I thought it was nonsense. Now I have a much better understanding of it, and no longer think that way. So, the answer is a definitive no.

@JimCastleberry

Ай бұрын

You seem just the sort of malleable dupe the AXP values. Two genders. Facts matter. There are no male females or female men.

@dakota-sessions

Ай бұрын

Gender Theory is a cult. So, you're an atheist that supports a cult. Wow.

@andrewsad1

Ай бұрын

@@dakota-sessions absolute nonsequiter "Walking is car ownership. So you're a pedestrian that owns a car. Wow." That's what you sound like

@andrewsad1

Ай бұрын

@@somersetcace1 I was replying to another person whose comment has since been removed. They claimed that believing that gender isn't the same as sex is a cult, and then said that you're an atheist who supports a cult based on that insane assertion

@GilderoyLockhard

Ай бұрын

So your brain isn't functioning properly^^

"Do all atheists think the same thing about this subject that has nothing whatsoever to do with atheism?" Ehm... obviously not.

@mikahbee

Ай бұрын

Seeing as most modern contentions around gender were a direct result of Christian colonialism, you might want to start thinking about it anyway and how Christian culture influenced your thoughts and feelings around gender.

@markweber4776

Ай бұрын

@@mikahbee Horrible reasoning. I've never been a Christian, myself, but it does seem easy to point the finger at "Christian Colonialism". This argument could be applied to absolutely anything, and that could therefore be the focus of what we "should" be thinking about. Be honest, its just trendy. You just want to associate yourself with "the current thing".

@girlwithtehface5880

Ай бұрын

"Nothing whatsoever to do with atheism?" I disagree. Anything that has to do with systems of oppression perpetuated by religious dogma has to do with atheism.

@mikahbee

Ай бұрын

@@markweber4776 social contagion motherfucker huh. Grow up. You probably think white people aren't racist unless they're out being the KKK right? Not a single thought about how white supremacy (and Christian supremacy) have shaped the whole world, right?

@MagiRemmie

Ай бұрын

@@mikahbee The only thing that influenced my thoughts about gender is biology.

Tell me, when you meet someone for the first time how do you assign them a gender? Do you A) check their chromosomes? B) check their genitals? C) make an assumption based on what you think they look like? If you choose C like most people then you already agree gender _isn't_ the same as biological sex. Biological sex If you define sex as production of a type of gamete then mammals are among those that produce 2 different types (some organisms have more: see fungi). This produces 4 categories: male, female, both, neither. If you graph it by the amount of gametes then you typically get a distribution spectrum with 2 main modes. This is called a bimodal distribution. When looked at, humans produce this same spectrum. Note: humans producing both gametes seems improbable but can't currently be ruled out as impossible.

No, not all of us think that

Rather like the person who commented recently, I am a lesbian in my late '50s and have never been the least bit familiar, personally, with gender dysphoria. I am female and was born female. I don't really understand the gender identity spectrum, but I try to respect people who are on journeys to learn about themselves, the same way as I appreciated, during my coming out days 35 or 40 years ago, people not trying to explain why I was wrong or sinful or bad or whatever. I have known and loved trans people, and I think that they are owed the same respect as anyone else, whether you understand what they're going through or not.

@christianblevins1870

Ай бұрын

This.

@AnthonyBSusan

Ай бұрын

Sexual orientation and gender identity are two different issues.

@joewalsh4713

29 күн бұрын

​@@AnthonyBSusandid anyone say that sexuality and gender identity are the same fucking thing?

@AnthonyBSusan

29 күн бұрын

@@joewalsh4713 She compared her orientation to gender identity...

@BeeEatingOrchid

26 күн бұрын

​@@AnthonyBSusanyou realise that you can make comparisons between two separate things, right? Obviously not.

I'm gay, I'm a lifelong atheist but I don't understand why a person would want to change their gender. That's ok there are a lot of things I don't understand but I know of the transgendered people I've met in my lifelong journey they are just people. The ones I've met seem to be nice and considerate towards others so isn't that all that matters?

@michelekendzie

Ай бұрын

Trans people aren't changing their gender. They're expressing who they are.

@quecee

Ай бұрын

A lot of people can't understand why someone would be physically attracted to someone of the same sex. But people are different. There are variations. And there are people who don't feel that their gender identity doesn't fit the gender that society constructs from their biological sex. So they want to more clearly present themselves in the gender that matches who they are. And sometimes that might necessitate surgical transition.

@CarlHobson-zm2gk

Ай бұрын

​@quecee always appreciate an expert opinion, you come with impeccable credentials, see you at midnight under the bridge, the one you've been under so many times.

@MarkMiller-gt5tu

Ай бұрын

@@quecee God made people attracted to the same sex so they could overcome it and glorify him. 🤣

@MagiRemmie

Ай бұрын

No one "wants" to change their gender in the same sense no one "wants" to change their sexual orientation. People just are.

Lol not all atheists are left wing, trust me i argue with them in comments all the time. And also, believe it or not....there are conservative trans folks

@AbsurdlyGeeky

Ай бұрын

There are conservative trans folks, queer folks, black folks, and women. But what really blows my mind is how many conservative poor folks there are.

@Mettle_DAD

Ай бұрын

@@AbsurdlyGeeky I don't know. They seem to more obviously anti all the things you mentioned but the meta view is yes it really comes down to they are anti poor. They want to keep their base kicking down at the minority so they keep voting for the anti minority....but I'll pick your pocket party.

@AnthonyBSusan

Ай бұрын

Like Bruce Jenner.

@extract8058

Ай бұрын

"Conservative trans" 😅😅😅

@extract8058

Ай бұрын

@@AnthonyBSusan yeah because infiltrating the Republic party is SO "CONSERVATIVE" 😂😂😂

When I announce pronouns, I attempt to contribute to a welcoming environment to those who don't fit into the gender binary that some demand that all conform to and who are affected by the moral panics whipped up by those who feel threatened by the existence of such people, or want others to.

@Beacon80

Ай бұрын

You also create a bit of a smokescreen. If only transgender people give their pronouns, it's an immediate flag that this person is transgender. If everybody is doing it, then the transgender person can give their pronouns without outing themselves.

@amtlpaul

Ай бұрын

​@@Beacon80Exactly

@markweber4776

Ай бұрын

As a disabled man, I wish people would list their disabilities and illnesses. So I can feel seen. Obviously not, though, of course I don't. This gender pandering is just as insane as listing your dodgy leg so that I can feel better (even though I wouldn't).

@Beacon80

Ай бұрын

@@markweber4776 Not remotely the same.

@andrewsad1

Ай бұрын

@@markweber4776 do u reckon gender is a disability

When I was about 20 yo I had a friend. I had no idea he was gay. Anyway, after high schools, etc, we went our separate ways. But then I remembered his birthday was coming up, and I was coming back home for a holiday, and we agreed to have a beer when I got back. I was busy, and he was busy, but his birthday was OK. So I rolled up, and found out that he had shacked up with another guy. I was a bit shocked when they kissed, and a bit revolted. But he was a mate of long standing, so I decided it was MY problem that I didn't like him kissing his lover. And that brought me to another thought. I don't get to "police" people about things I might find distasteful. Trans people can sometimes make me uncomfortable. But it is not their problem, but my problem. So I can understand these sex/gender phobias, because we pick these up socially. So the next step is to accept humans as humans, because we are all different. Once you get to that stage, you are compelled to defend that which you may not like, because humanity and empathy are far more important than some phobia. And in defending the rights and freedoms of others, you also defend your own. I suspect that revulsion towards LBGTQI is primarily religiously based, and since there is always some sort of religion, or religions saturating human cultures, it is so common that some might feel that such bigotry and violence is natural. That is where I think I picked up my revulsion of non-binary people at an early age. We absorb a lot of crap as kids, before we have the skills to deal with it. Of course, not all atheists think in the same way. You can be an atheist who got to that position without rational thought. For example, a "god-hater". But it is irrational to hate a thing that you don't believe exists. So the rational atheist is simply someone who lacks sufficient evidence to believe in any god. And if you are indeed rational, then other so-called things like re-incarnation, disembodied souls, spirits, ghosts, etc, also have insufficient warrant for belief. Although science can't dictate morality, because it is an amoral form of investigation, it can inform morality. If a religion informs you that gay folks are evil, then that primes you towards bigotry, and perhaps violence. But if biology informs you that these variations are normal and natural, that would prompt you to treat them as any other human being. Since morality actually comes from biological and cultural evolution in social species, and not from deities and religions, it is perfectly possible to build a secular moral system at least equal to, or even superior than, a religious moral system.

Do all people who don't believe in Santa Claus think gender is fluid? That's how stupid your question is. 🙄

@markweber4776

Ай бұрын

Its a reasonable point of view, but I would switch it about a bit. Do all atheists think like I do? And I think mine is closest to what is going on here.

@ApatheticFish3667

Ай бұрын

That's the caller's question, not the host's.

@BootBizarre

Ай бұрын

@markweber4776, I disagree that I need to switch it around. The point I am making is that the only thing all atheists agree on is not believing in a god. That's it. Replace 'god' with literally any other fictional character like Santa Claus and the same concept applies. The only thing we'd all agree on is not believing in Santa Claus. That's it. Not believing in Santa Claus says nothing about your political views just like not believing in a god.

@BootBizarre

Ай бұрын

@ApatheticFish3667, Yeah, I know. This was directed at the caller and any theists reading here who think that same way. 😉

Christened and raised a Lutheran but went to Methodist church; had many catholic friends. Married 3 times; all baptists. Was always skeptical ,now an atheist for the last 10 years.

Congratulations on 413k subscribers AXP 🎉🥳🎉

22:20 thank you! I've been pointing this out to people in the comments sections for ages and it's nice to see someone mention it on the air

@Aencii

29 күн бұрын

So glad to see Forrest address this! It's always the same pearl-clutching nonsense from fundamentalist "atheists" out here trying to pretend like atheism has nothing at all to do with the social issues that are in the limelight today.

I have known two transgender individuals in my life and nether caused me any problem. People that must focus on those that are different only appear be very insecure in their own identity. Some people I honestly cannot tell (nor do I care) what their gender identity may be (unless they let me know). The people who seem to be so concerned about what is under the skirts and pants of other people are the same ones we all wonder if they desire some creepy job of checking.

You can’t group everyone in one category into another category just because a couple of people in the former fit the latter.

No. Not all. Definitely not all.

@lavenderroseluvzwomen891

Ай бұрын

"Secular Rarity" just goes with the flow to be trendy. He's never had a critical thought in his life.

@Learnguitartoday

Ай бұрын

@@lavenderroseluvzwomen891 it definitely seems that way for sure

@madshorn5826

Ай бұрын

Yeah. Sadly bigotry isn't limited to religious people ¯\_ (ツ) _/¯

@ragg232

Ай бұрын

​@@lavenderroseluvzwomen891 I suppose supporting gay people was trendy too. Or any other minority as well, eh? As if that wasn't also an argument against them.

@madshorn5826

27 күн бұрын

@@albertfralinger2711 It certainly is :-) But it is bigotry that is a personal belief system, not the scientific facts, so my comment makes perfect sense :-)

At 18:48, SR discusses why they talk about gender identity. If people, atheists or theists, talk about gender identity so that they can be a$$holes about it, they will talk about it. So for those of you who think that this topic shouldn't be included:. 1. Part of the mission for the ACA is rational thinking and secular humanism 2. Callers are bringing it up, and this is a callin show 3. We all know what kind of laws against trans, or any target group of the time, that would be passed if the majority religion gets sufficient political power Remember, first they came for the trans, and i did not speak out, because i was not trans...

Thank you for your support for trans folk.

@dakota-sessions

Ай бұрын

replace "folk" with "cult" ... then think about what it means to be a skeptic/atheist, and are you sure you want to abandon your principles here?

@alamunez

Ай бұрын

@@dakota-sessionsReplace ‘Dakota’ with ‘murderer’… then think about why you’re calling yourself a murderer. Solid logic there. 🙄

@SundaeExpress

Ай бұрын

@@dakota-sessions Reported for hate speech

@joshsheridan9511

Ай бұрын

​@@dakota-sessionsexcept it meets no real definition of a cult You're the perfect example of ignorance in action.

@Hampton_Doubleday_Jr

Ай бұрын

@@dakota-sessions Who do you vote for now that Hitler's dead?

I'll make it easy for you. "Do all atheists ...." = no

@RickLambert963

Ай бұрын

Primary example of the origins of what Elon Musk calls woke mind virus. Godless disconnected seven colors alphabet clown world. Belief/disbelief based deductions strike again. Gatheist need anatheism. That's the only way back to oceanic feeling. Gender ideology is pseudoscience scientism. Gatheist have been bamboozled with BS (belief/disbelief systems). Only one percent believe such nonsense, to the rest of the world gender and sex are synonymous. John Money didn't believe in such nonsense either. Are you one of these they/them pronouns with infinite imaginary "genders"? If so, look up something called gender dysphoria in the DSM. The ADA will be happy to help you navigate through seven color alphabet clown world. Learn how to use pronouns properly. I am a male. I have a friend. He is male also. That's how pronouns work. I am a male. I have a friend. She is male. That's how pronouns don't work. She isn't a pronoun for male. I have friends. They are males and females. That's how pronouns work. I have they, them, theirs, themselves, he, him, his, himself, she, her, herself, it, its, itself. That's how pronouns don't work. Third-person pronouns is how we refer to others. Confused individuals having an identity crisis are lost in pronouns because they don't understand the difference between identity and character/personality. My identity is my name, 5 foot 11 inches tall, 190 lbs, brown hair, brown eyes, caucasian, and born male in 1963. That's of public concern. What I do with that identity including how I dress, the kind of car I drive, how I act, how I speak, my sexual preferences... my character/personality, aren't of public concern; to each their own. This is what we're supposed to teach our children. This LGBTQ nonsensical philosophy doesn't even like to acknowledge that B stands for bisexual; meaning that there are only two genders in nature, male and female, and hermaphrodites are both. It's ridiculously absurd to say that there are more than two genders. Sex/gender should remain synonymous instead of blurring the difference between identity and character/personality. Identitify as a lamp, fine, plug yourself in and turn yourself on. Have yourself pronouns of they/them, whatever. I won't participate in your delusional illusions or use improper grammar. I'm happy to comply with the ADA requirements of accommodations for mental disorders. These are reasonable accommodations. If this isn't good enough for you, step off. This isn't hate speech. Seriously. I recently saw "non-binary" T-shirts in men's and women's styles. Priceless fok'n hilarious. In 1966, Dr. Money founded the Gender Identity Clinic at Johns Hopkins University and started an extensive research program on the psychohormonal treatment of paraphilias and on sex reassignment. Money formulated, defined, and coined the term "gender role" and later expanded it to gender-identity/role (G-I/R). Gender identity disorder was used for its diagnostic name when it was introduced into DSM-III in1980. With the publication of DSM-5 in 2013, “gender identity disorder” was eliminated and replaced with “gender dysphoria.” Gender dysphoria (GD), according to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental disorders (DSM 5), is defined as a "marked incongruence between their experienced or expressed gender and the one they were assigned at birh." People with gender dysphoria are entitled under the ADA to receive reasonable accommodations and are protected from discrimination. Homosexuality was classified as a mental disorder in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders beginning with the first edition, published in 1952 by the American Psychiatric Association. The APA removed homosexuality from the DSM in 1973, replacing it with the category of "sexual orientation disturbance". This category was a compromise between the view that homosexuality is a mental disorder and the view that it is a normal sexual variant. The DSM-III (1980) replaced the sexual orientation disturbance category with the diagnosis of "ego-dystonic homosexuality". Describes people who experience distress from homosexual feelings, fantasies, or behaviors that conflict with their desired heterosexual orientation. Pet psychiatrists are academic professionals who have studied animal behavior. They are sometimes called pet therapists, an animal communicator or pet behaviorists as well. They know how to address your pet's problem in a positive way. It can be difficult to attribute human conditions to non-human animals. Animals can have mental disorders, including anxiety, depression, and compulsive behaviors. I have farm cats. A big gray one dominates them all when outdoors. He constantly tries to "have his way" including the other male cats. At feeding time in the shelter he gets really submissive like he's begging for food because all the other cats shun, hiss, and swat him. I give him his own bowl.

We all understand that this caller was a troll trying to to walk the hosts into saying something that could be misconstrued when taken out of context, right? They're farming for audio clips they can use to disparage the hosts and their views specifically and all atheists broadly.

Me and my brother differ so much in so many different beliefs but still, we are both Atheists.

SR you truly are a rarity! Forrest you are too. Funny to me how to atheists are the brightest lights in the darkness of humanity. Not idols just decent people who (seemingly) actually care about other sentient beings. Love it.

It's called advancement. If you're trying to live with one foot firmly stuck in the first century, your ability to advance as a human Is a never ending mental struggle that is surely damaging.

@markweber4776

Ай бұрын

"my ideas are right, therefore they are right"

@madshorn5826

Ай бұрын

​@@markweber4776 I think it is a tad more nuanced: _"I have these ideas. If these ideas were wrong, I would believe wrong ideas and feel bad. I don't like feeling bad. Therefore my ideas are sound"_ It is part of the human psychological immune system. It was bad enough when outdated ideas just harmed people around you, but the same "thought" process is being used to avoid facing the climate crisis, the pollution crisis and the biodiversity crisis. That is now an existential threat.

@markweber4776

Ай бұрын

@@madshorn5826 And here I am challenging poor thinking, there's nothing in it for me. But I would hope that people would at least question what they are taking for granted. Which seems to me to have been historically (but apparently not currently) central to the AE project.

No

The real word I always hated was "addicting." I thought 15 year olds said addicting and adults said "addictive" but now it seems the former has gained popularity. They're both equally correct, BTW.

Not necessarily, but they share a concept that an all-powerful being probably didn't decide who or what each person would fall in what categories...

Lol, we won't even agree on the question.

@markweber4776

Ай бұрын

wrong. Oh wait...

I need someone to explain the whole gender thing to me. Like, why does it bother people so much when someone’s gender identity doesn’t match their biological sex. It’s not like them existing is going to destroy society 🙄 that’s what they said about gay marriage, and we’re still here

@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2

Ай бұрын

It's THE "wedge issue" in modern fascism: paint a powerless group as monsters, then when the left comes to the aid of the beleaguered minority, smear then with the same brush, thus Poisoning the Well, and allowing them to ignore results that they don't like - like the 2020 election - because the monsters cannot be allowed to have power.

@summerlovinxx

Ай бұрын

they've painted a false narrative to push in spite of the truth being almost completely inverted. they'll say a drag queen reading a book to a kid is grooming when they actively use the positions of power they gained from a certain hot-button book to actually harm a lot of kids. they call us deviants and degenerates when they push purity culture and conversion therapy and child courtships. they want us gone, they just try their best to either claim they don't or try to explain how "it's good actually". no one deserves to be harmed, and as long as things stay the same they won't get better for anyone. trans people deserve rights just like everyone else, and we just want to live our lives in peace. that's all we ask for.

@AnthonyBSusan

Ай бұрын

For example, telling people what pronouns to use violates free speech.

@matthewscott7198

Ай бұрын

Looks like you're asking why so many people are obsessed with other people's gender, and that's complicated. The internet has a tendency to empower communities - when you're not alone and you're not the only one, you come to understand that your experience may not be the majority, but you are not a lesser form of humanity (despite what you've been told all your life) because of your unusual traits. You begin to speak up and demand to be allowed to live a normal life without hiding your identity - there is nothing wrong with you, so any treatment of you as "lesser than" is undeserved and needs correction. You begin to speak up and become visible in your own defense, and those who love you and support you also become visible and speak up for you. As trans people (just like gays and POCs and black people before them) become more visible within society, those who were raised to believe that humans are all simply male or female from birth are being forced to either accept or reject that what they were taught is incorrect. People will instinctively work to maintain their existing beliefs unless they have a good reason to change them. Many people see their own beliefs about gender as an identity in itself - "we ARE the people who think men must have penises and act masculine," "we ARE the people who believe sex between two men is immoral and contrary to nature," "we ARE the people who believe black people and other minorities are inherently inferior," etc. And once you identify as an oppressed minority yourself, i.e. someone whose beliefs are under attack, you fight all the more to defend those beliefs, no matter how much those beliefs lack a basis in reality.

@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2

Ай бұрын

@@AnthonyBSusan telling people not to tell others what pronouns to use violates free speech.

I never believed in a god, even as a child. I told my mother I didn't feel this god she and my other family members said they felt. I got the back of her hand for honesty. I think most atheists only agree that the existence of a supernatural being(s) has not been proven.

@holgerlubotzki3469

Ай бұрын

It's very much the way of the bible to think that it is possible to change what somebody believes with physical violence.

Muhammad for trans. We should have a hug a trans day!!

Why they getting off topic?? Gender Fluidity has nothing to do with Atheism!! Stay in your lane and stop spreading misinformation.

@SundaeExpress

Ай бұрын

So they shouldn't answer questions that people phone in with? And what misinformation? Be specific and provide a source

@Beacon80

Ай бұрын

Forrest answers this question in the video.

@quecee

Ай бұрын

They went off the topic? Really? The caller didn't raise the gender topic? I got to go back and watch it again, cause normally, the hosts don't change the topic from what the caller called in about.

@joshsheridan9511

Ай бұрын

If you don't like the way the channel is run, you have options

@markweber4776

Ай бұрын

Haven't you heard,? Atheism is all about sex and gender, and every now and again we pretend to give a shit about whether there is a God.

Atheist, and no. It doesn't exist. It's basically a term people are using for sense of fashion. I'm surprised how many atheists lean on science and then ignore it or cherry pick what they want from grifters to get to this conclusion.

@ragg232

Ай бұрын

So how does the grift work?

@nealjroberts4050

29 күн бұрын

Go on, explain the grift to me

I was a Methodist PK. Baptized at birth and after Confirmation. But never felt convinced. My atheism isn't new, but I've given it much more thought in the last few years.

@SundaeExpress

Ай бұрын

PK?

@Dorff_Meister

Ай бұрын

@@SundaeExpress preacher's kid.

@quecee

Ай бұрын

@@Dorff_Meister The son of a preacher man. Is your name Billy Ray?

@SundaeExpress

Ай бұрын

@@quecee Was that the only boy who could ever reach you?

@quecee

Ай бұрын

@@SundaeExpress Well, being good isn't always easy, no matter how hard I try.

Thank you so much for being an ally xxxxxx ❤❤❤❤ so much love from me xxx

12:45

Strange question. I've got nothing 🤷‍♂

These conversations all give a chess vs checkers vibe. The theist, in general, just haven't thought any of this through. They start with a baseless assumption and then they get stuck on it until the end of time.

I cringe when celebrities I once looked up to become raving transphobic bigots. Ricky Gervais, JK Rowling and Graham Linehan spring to mind.

@Hampton_Doubleday_Jr

Ай бұрын

And Gervais is an atheist, so he alone is enough to confirm that the answer to the question in the title of this video is no.

@nealjroberts4050

29 күн бұрын

I'm surprised that Gervais has become so bigoted but I've not heard much from him about it tbf. Linehan is a textbook case in how an originally understandable public discussion about stereotyping coupled stubbornness, misinformation, and backlash and subsequently spiralled to phobia. There was an interesting video essay on it and the lessons to be learned.

@Hampton_Doubleday_Jr

29 күн бұрын

@@nealjroberts4050 👍

@nealjroberts4050

27 күн бұрын

@@albertfralinger2711 As I said "I've not heard much from him about it" That's kinda why I'm surprised.

@nealjroberts4050

27 күн бұрын

@@albertfralinger2711 Perhaps I should edit my post to read "I'm surprised it's been said that Gervais had become so bigoted". I had thought my follow up was explanatory _enough_

Thank you for speaking on trans issues.

@ZoeSummers1701A

Ай бұрын

Sure, if it confirms your bias you like it. Funny how that works.

"All" is a very big word. Kind of like saying "never". Use with care.

What do you think about some cities making it illegal to be homeless? When almost all resources are hoarded by 1-5% of “people and corporations (who are now people, legally speaking) that doesn’t leave much for the rest of us to fight each other over. Almost like a game for them. Just a few thoughts I’d love to hear others weigh in on. As they say perspective is really so let’s change our perceptions.

All of the worlds leading expert sexologists (sex scientists) think this is a social contagion. Talk to Ken Zucker, Michael Bailey, Ray Blanchard, or James Cantor. Almost all of the names on the papers published in favor of gender fluidity have been activists (such as Julia Serano, or Jack Turban).

@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2

Ай бұрын

"all"? What utter BS!

@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2

Ай бұрын

The >500,000 peer reviewed journal articles are written by actual, qualified scientists and are reviewed by other, actual, qualified scientists. These aren't "activists", nor are the editors of journals like "Nature", and labelling then as such is an attempt to Poison the Well.

@dakota-sessions

Ай бұрын

@@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2 Since John Money, yes, unless there is someone I'm unaware of.

@Beacon80

Ай бұрын

"leading" = "the ones that agree with me"

@dakota-sessions

Ай бұрын

@@Beacon80 The ones with the most peer reviewed papers published. Zucker is the editor of the biggest sexual studies journal.

Sounds like some first world problem shit

@DASKlPPA2024

Ай бұрын

And your point is...?

@pokechops

Ай бұрын

@@DASKlPPA2024 that was the point

@WonkyDonkey3000

Ай бұрын

@@pokechops Did you just like your own post and comment? 🥴

@Beacon80

Ай бұрын

No. This is a problem for transgender people in any country.

@pokechops

Ай бұрын

@@Beacon80 I’m pretty sure they have bigger issues like not getting killed or jailed in other countries.

No we don't

12:37 - The quid of the matter.

Is this where the Atheist movement is going? Having woke pro-nouns under each name? If so count me out

@shanewilson7994

29 күн бұрын

And yet you used a pronoun in your post. It's almost as if pronouns aren't "woke" (whatever that means) but are part of the everyday English language that are commonly used.

I love that Forest is militantly pro trans and pro love.

@GazpachoCop

Ай бұрын

*Forrest

@Mettle_DAD

Ай бұрын

@@GazpachoCop no I meant like tree beard and his flock will absolutely wreck your day if you disrespect the trans homies

@dakota-sessions

Ай бұрын

If you really love people, it's time to learn how queer theory is destroying lives due to the fact that it's a cult and a social contagion. Would you have supported recovered memories or the satanic panic a few decades ago as well? Use logic and skepticism... and love.

@ZoeSummers1701A

Ай бұрын

And yet he’s not actually stating and quoting the full science; just sociological bullshit.

@GazpachoCop

Ай бұрын

@@ZoeSummers1701A Says the woman who on another thread thought that sex and gender are the same thing 🤣

Just like all theists are different, all atheists are different. Its just that atheist are more likely to follow evidence and reason so are more likely than theists to understand biological and social truths and understand that gender is a social construct and the variance in biology is incredible. We are more likely to accept the many different scientific disciplines that indicate that gender is 'fluid'. People being trans is real. It is part of nature. It is part of human sociology.

12:47 is where the title question is asked

Thank God for gender fluidity 🙏

@joshsheridan9511

Ай бұрын

Gender* wasn't genger a dance craze? 😁😁😁

@xenomorphoverlord

Ай бұрын

@@joshsheridan9511 I'm pretty sure genger is a pokemon

@SundaeExpress

Ай бұрын

@@joshsheridan9511 *Craze Wasn't crazy a song by Willy Nelson?

@SundaeExpress

Ай бұрын

@@xenomorphoverlord I thought she was one of the Spice Girls.

@joshsheridan9511

Ай бұрын

@@SundaeExpress bloody auto correct

Love the dichotomy, atheists either believe gender is fluid, or they are "homophobic or transphobic". You could definitely do with taking a less religious approach. Irony so astonishing it would be hard to make it up.

@amtlpaul

Ай бұрын

It's a moral approach because it has to with how we treat other people.

@AbsurdlyGeeky

Ай бұрын

Gender is a social construct, much like nationality or political affiliation, all of which are fluid. Failing to recognize that often comes from a place of bigotry. It's not unfair to label that bigotry as transphobia.

@markweber4776

Ай бұрын

@@AbsurdlyGeeky Ah, the social construct argument! Cheese is a social construct. That doesn't mean the concept `cheese' includes fossil shark teeth.

@andrewsad1

Ай бұрын

@@markweber4776 no, cheese is a product made of coagulated milk, regardless of what society one lives in. Gender is entirely based on what we as a society say it is. Gender is constructed based on social norms and expectations, and can change depending on the culture. Can you think of a phrase for a thing that's constructed by society?

@rosamorales729

Ай бұрын

@@amtlpaul you pretending to be moral is the worst joke I have heard all year 😅

I’m gonna say no…

It's not an issue if an Atheist doesn't believe in the sex & gender binary. It's an issue when a biologist or psychologist doesn't.

@amtlpaul

Ай бұрын

What kind of an issue is that?

@Beacon80

Ай бұрын

Then you've got an issue, because they overwhelmingly agree that neither sex nor gender are binary.

@joshsheridan9511

Ай бұрын

So the consensus between biologists and psychologists is wrong, because you attended high-school?

@5-Volt

Ай бұрын

@@amtlpaul A denial of easily observed reality & the core foundation of darwinism.

@amtlpaul

Ай бұрын

@@5-Volt What's 'darwinism'?

Well I'm an atheist and I think the whole gender fluidity/ transformer thing is complete balls. Pardon the pun. [I normally get banned from youtube for 24 hours for stating the above]

@SundaeExpress

Ай бұрын

Is "It's complete balls" the extent of your argument?

@Gankstomper

Ай бұрын

Too bad you have no ability to defend that position at all. Pointless comment from an ignorant person.

@nealrobels4050

Ай бұрын

I'm a Christian and if I say the same thing I'm banned from KZread.. I just don't understand how atheists can mock other people's faith-based beliefs and then cry to KZread if somebody questions their faith-based beliefs.

@nealrobels4050

Ай бұрын

​@@SundaeExpressI can make the same argument without using any profanity or perceived profanity and it's the same result. I can simply question the fact that atheists like to mock other people's faith-based beliefs but go insane and cry to KZread if anybody mocks their gender Faith.

@Gankstomper

Ай бұрын

​@@nealrobels4050Gender science is not based on faith. If atheists believed things purely on faith we'd have an imaginary friend like you do.

No they dont. There answered in 3 words

Answer is no.

Hell no, I am atheist and I believe gender and sex are the same, you cannot change facts, the same way you can't change your age, your ethnicity, you species and your every physical fact, you can't change your sex. The ligual distiguish is very new, during my studying in medical school, through studying medical textbooks I realized words sex and gender are interchageably used for the same meaning. And even if sex and gender are different aspects why not letting them separate, why changing sex to fit gender, if there issomething that has to change to fit the other, that is gender.

@SundaeExpress

Ай бұрын

Science disagrees with you. By the way, what does "ligual distinguish" mean?

@Gankstomper

Ай бұрын

Thank you for the humbling reminder that atheists can be just as ignorant as theists.

@phrozenwun

Ай бұрын

..."facts", you keep using that word, I do not think that word means what you think it means.

@Gankstomper

Ай бұрын

You aren't intelligent

@storytimewithunclekumaran5004

Ай бұрын

medical school,s are marxist training grounds now .. suddenly we have to pretend nobody on earth knows what a woman is ?? How is that even possible..?

This video is possibly the most embarrassing bit of copium this channel has posted yet. 😅

@Multi_Purpose_Weirdo

Ай бұрын

Really? This is the most embarrassing? Well, then they have a superb track record, good job folks.

@rosamorales729

Ай бұрын

@@Multi_Purpose_Weirdo LOL your bar is that low that you think that makes their track record “superb” 😅

@Multi_Purpose_Weirdo

Ай бұрын

@@rosamorales729 Well, considering that.... P1: this is their most embarrassing video And P2: this video is not embarrassing Then C: They have never produced an embarrassing video Well done pointing that out!

@Multi_Purpose_Weirdo

Ай бұрын

@@rosamorales729 If you want an example of embarrassing, look to yourself! 😞

@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2

Ай бұрын

​@@rosamorales729 "copious" is an adjective, not a noun. You can't have a "bit" of it. ☝️ Speaking of embarrassing. 🤣

I wish, but I'm a naive idealist and I wish everyone understood that. Atheism doesn't mean anything beyond that single lack of a belief in a god. There's plenty of bigoted atheists who hate all the same people religious extremists do for exactly the same reasons who get real mad at you if you point that out to them.

@KyouTGD

27 күн бұрын

You can disagree with someone's beliefs, you can not disagree with their existence.

@KyouTGD

26 күн бұрын

Some people are genderfluid. That is not a belief. That is who they are. If you are denying that you are not disagreeing with a belief, you are denying who they are. You are denying their existence.

- gender 'the male sex or the female sex, especially when considered with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones' - sex 'either of the two main categories (male and female) into which humans and most other living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions' These terms are confused a lot.

@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2

Ай бұрын

Particularly when you WANT them to remain "confused".

@ZoeSummers1701A

Ай бұрын

And yet you still use ‘gender’ incorrectly.

@Koocel

Ай бұрын

That is a quote from a dictionary. I know it doesn't specify men/women there in genders definition and maybe thats why it goes over your head. Maybe read it again slowly?

@andrewsad1

Ай бұрын

@@Koocel I'm not a fan of that dictionary's definition, because it still equates sex with gender. Wiktionary provides better definitions based on identification with social roles irrespective of sex: 4. Identification as a man, a woman, or something else, and association with a (social) role or set of behavioral and cultural traits, clothing, etc; a category to which a person belongs on this basis. (Compare gender role, gender identity.)

@ChrisLee-yr7tz

Ай бұрын

​@andrewsad1 oh come on. The dictionary definition IS the definition. The whole gender thing is complete b0ll0x precisely because you can't define it. How can you even define a woman in gender terms without referencing the female biological sex? The whole thing becomes circular. We should end the debate by just scrapping gender and only refer to biological sex.

Is one's "Gender Fluid" to be changed after every 3000 transgender tiktok videos ?

Does the caller understand what sex and gender are? it really doesn't seem like it. Sex and Gender are not synonyms.

Clearly not. I do, though.

@CarlHobson-zm2gk

Ай бұрын

Queerly not, get your self together!

@amtlpaul

Ай бұрын

And it's Non Sequitur Hour with@@CarlHobson-zm2gk!

15:13 Yeah "haha" really funny... If you think that is hilarious, ask actual woman how they feel about that. There are PLENTY of street-interviews about... JUST this specific topic. Hint: They don't feel comfortable at all... now where is your woman's rights thing about this? Are you confused yet?... So am i

12:42 You’re welcome

I don't particularly like Ricky Gervais, but please tell people, it's pronounced jervace. Not jervay

I would wager the answer is no but I haven’t talked to all of atheists so I really don’t know

@christianblevins1870

Ай бұрын

Also religion teaches people to think in black and whites good and bad. Boxes of you will so I personally think it’s hard for some theists to recognize that atheists can and do think outside of any box that theists have been taught to follow. That we don’t have any doctrine to follow besides not believing in god. Even the way we get to that not believing rule can be very different.

@Leith_Crowther

Ай бұрын

I’ve met at least one atheist who thinks gender isn’t what gender is, and that’s enough to conclude the answer is no.

@Hampton_Doubleday_Jr

Ай бұрын

@@Leith_Crowther The transphobic atheist Ricky Gervais also proves it's a no.

@Hampton_Doubleday_Jr

27 күн бұрын

@@albertfralinger2711 Oh wow, keep up! 😅

Silly question to begin with , atheism has nothing to do with what anyone believes. It’s a lack of belief in theist claims.

Your gender may be different to your sex but in many instances it’s the sex that matters and that can’t be changed.

@hannajung7512

Ай бұрын

the sex almost never matters. The only two instances when it does is: for medical reasons and when you want to procreate and need a matching partner for that. There is no other context in which sex actually matters.

@nealrobels4050

Ай бұрын

I'm a little confused about all this maybe you can help. What if a transgender woman and a man who isn't transgender are in the sexual relationship let's say they're married are they in a straight relationship or a homosexual relationship ? I appreciate your help.

@Ihsaan1c

Ай бұрын

@@hannajung7512 it matters in many cases. In sports, in safe spaces for women, in prisons etc.

@Ihsaan1c

Ай бұрын

@@nealrobels4050 a biological male and a transgender woman. I would say that’s homosexual especially if the trans person has male genitalia.

@kevinm9246

Ай бұрын

​@@nealrobels4050When the sex is the same, it is homosexual.

Awful title for this video.

My pronouns are he him

@BanGunsNow2024

Ай бұрын

Cool. Same as your mum's, then.

@joshsheridan9511

Ай бұрын

That's nice for you.

@afairy

Ай бұрын

You could have just summed it up with "I'm an idiot and a bigot"

@Treerootz1

28 күн бұрын

Projection much? It’s bigoted to tell people your pronouns? What a bigot

@BanGunsNow2024

26 күн бұрын

@@Treerootz1 Aww, diddums

John 3 16 invites you to know God's love and promise. As you implement the teachings and character of Jesus into your daily life and test His promises contained in His many Names (I am your provider, your healer, your peace in the midst of chaos, etc) you may begin to see and recognize His presence as those promises manifest themselves in a visible, tangible way that provides the assurance and evidence of His existence and love for you.

I'm an atheistic because I don't believe in the existence of a loving God, with whom I can share my feelings with. But I'm also an atheist because I reject the idea of a "spirit" or "soul" being one's essence because I believe that my body is at the centre of my experience. Ideas like "born in the wrong body" or "authentic self" suggest that the human experience transcends the body. Who is born in the wrong body? The authentic self is outside your body? I would conclude that atheists should automatically reject Gender Ideology because it's simply another religion trying to create human experience outside the body

@nealjroberts4050

29 күн бұрын

I recommend actually learning what gender is before you post again.

@viejolincanada

28 күн бұрын

@@nealjroberts4050 "I recommend actually learning what gender is before you post again." I probably know more about gender and sex than you. If you are you asking me to learn more about the religion/cult of gender, I won't do it because I'm not into religions. Philosophies that push for an existence outside the body are not my thing because these philosophies are motivated by shame about the body. My definition of gender is simple, and rational because there is no spirit involved. Gender is the Cognitive Structure that represents Biological Sex. Cognitive Structures are meant to represent the reality of the physical world, and if it doesn't it can cause chaos in people. Which is why gender-confused people live in such distress, a confusion that is promoted by people like this channel. Fortunately, the Cass Review has opened the door to sanity in this area and gender ideology is dead, like lobotomies.

@viejolincanada

28 күн бұрын

@@nealjroberts4050 "I recommend actually learning what gender is before you post again." I read the best book on the subject: "Trans" by Helen Joyce. As an Atheist, how can you accept an ideology that is based on a "spirit" that represents "Authentic self"?

@nealjroberts4050

28 күн бұрын

@@viejolincanada I'm neither atheist nor is gender based on a spirit of any kind. Did you wear gloves?

@viejolincanada

28 күн бұрын

@@nealjroberts4050 "I'm neither atheist nor is gender based on a spirit of any kind." How do you explain the concept of "born in the wrong body" then? Think about, when you say that, you are implying the existence of something, like a spirit, that looks for a body to become human, and it could be the "wrong" body. Don't you see the nonsense of these ideas? Unless you believe in spirits

Judging from Forrest's closing words I'm getting the impression that I wasn't the only one getting annoyed with some of the shenanigans of certain hosts of this show. I'll leave it at that.

No, I don't.

@DASKlPPA2024

Ай бұрын

Why not?

@holgerlubotzki3469

Ай бұрын

@@DASKlPPA2024 Why?

@DASKlPPA2024

Ай бұрын

@@holgerlubotzki3469 Oh no biggy - it's just that I'm a supporter of gender fluidity and was just curious as to why this person isn't. To be honest, I thought you were a supporter of it too.

@holgerlubotzki3469

Ай бұрын

@@DASKlPPA2024 I think you misunderstood the post. Q: Do All Atheists Think Gender Is Fluid? A: No, I don't.

@DASKlPPA2024

Ай бұрын

@@holgerlubotzki3469 Is this person not saying "No, I don't think gender is fluid"? I'm not seeing another meaning there. And Goettel apparently can't be bothered to clarify it for us anyway 🤷‍♂

biology and emotions are TWO COMPLETELY different things!!

@babs_babs

27 күн бұрын

no they aren’t

I'm an atheist but I don't care about pronouns.

@Hampton_Doubleday_Jr

Ай бұрын

So why did you use two of them in your post?

@andrewsad1

Ай бұрын

I wonder how much you would care about them if people constantly used the wrong ones for you

@Multi_Purpose_Weirdo

Ай бұрын

Am an atheist and don't use pronouns. Just so much better than pronoun-users! (J/K)

@andrewsad1

Ай бұрын

@@Multi_Purpose_Weirdo lmao "the entity which is presently speaking refuses to use pronouns to refer to the entity in question"

@michbenny1363

Ай бұрын

@@andrewsad1 I wouldn't care but if someone continue to do it, I would question whether things were escalate because I'd wonder why they were doing it. Personally if someone identifies as a woman and they were born a man, of course I would use the proper respect as a stranger and call them their preferred pronoun.

second 💪🤠☝️

@SundaeExpress

Ай бұрын

You were second, buddy - sorry 😢

@smochygrice465

Ай бұрын

​@@SundaeExpressDang nabit! Post ammended 😢

So, yeah; go ahead and help the religious with their talking (bickering) points. As everybody knows you can choose to be feminine or you can choose to be masculine but your physiology makes your gender fixed (surgery doesn't change who you are). Y'know, a carpenter can build a set of cabinets that looks like a wall or a wall that looks like a set of cabinets but the cabinets remain cabinets and the wall remains a wall.

@afairy

Ай бұрын

Gender is not the same as sex, and biology is so much more complex then just what genitals you have

@SundaeExpress

Ай бұрын

Will do. Thanks for confirming that we have your permission

@Beacon80

Ай бұрын

Gender is in your brain. So while, yes, it _is_ fixed (as far as we know), the point is to make their body match their brain.

@quecee

Ай бұрын

Guess what. People are not cabinets. And no. Everybody do not know that you can "choose" to be feminine or masculine. Do you wake up everyday and choose your level of femininity? Is this some fine tuning argument that you picked up from theists?🤦‍♂️

@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2

Ай бұрын

No, your physiology makes your _SEX_ fixed, however, trans people aren't claiming to have a different sex, rather, they have a GENDER that is different from their physiological sex. Surgery for the body is ONLY for the purpose of helping easy the incongruity between the two, and letting them live the person that their brain says they are, since they cannot get surgery to change the structure of the brain.

Ron Weasley and Professor Snape strike again

@SevenPr1me

Ай бұрын

The 80s "bully" stereotype strikes again

@holgerlubotzki3469

Ай бұрын

@@SevenPr1me The 80s whining bully to be more precise.

@uno4606

Ай бұрын

O’Doyle Rules!

@joshsheridan9511

Ай бұрын

Grow up

@SevenPr1me

Ай бұрын

@@uno4606 let me know when puberty hits you

👿 Demons inhabit Forrests body, which is why he can't keep still.FACTS.

@holgerlubotzki3469

Ай бұрын

given that you are here as a messenger of *SATAN, The Great Deceiver,* I'll assume you know a thing or two about demons.

@quecee

Ай бұрын

@@holgerlubotzki3469 How could Mark be POSSIBLY deceived? What HE believes must be right. The only way he could have been deceived would be if Satan was good at lying, like if he had some title, the Prince of Lies, for example.

@MarkMiller-gt5tu

Ай бұрын

@@SundaeExpress Since when do apostrophes follow periods? FYI I was just trying to get a much needed 😂 laugh by mocking something I thought a Christian could come up with.

@MarkMiller-gt5tu

Ай бұрын

@@SundaeExpress My mistake. Butterscotch sundaes are still my favorite. What about you?

@MarkMiller-gt5tu

Ай бұрын

@@SundaeExpress But wouldn't the apostrophe make it Forrest is?

Is gender fluid? What a goofy as question, lol.

@SundaeExpress

Ай бұрын

Is "What a goofy question, lol" the extent of your argument? 🙄

@amtlpaul

Ай бұрын

What gender is God, by the way?

@tryme3969

Ай бұрын

@@amtlpaul Physically or spiritually?

@tryme3969

Ай бұрын

@@SundaeExpress Another goofy question, lol

@amtlpaul

Ай бұрын

​@@tryme3969What's spiritual gender?

So in other words, because your way of processing your thoughts didn't fit the thought of the word of God, you left,........ sounds like you wanted the word of God to fit your agenda of thought, very childish.

@dansattah

Ай бұрын

If there was convincing evidence that gods were real. If the evidence isn't convincing, there's no reason to believe that divine authority holds more weight than individual or secular morality.

@joshsheridan9511

Ай бұрын

Nope SR found he had no good reason to believe, just like you have no good reason, the difference is you believe anyway.

@georgeaguilar6996

Ай бұрын

@@dansattah The problem with evidence is that it cannot change the evil human behavior. Evidence is not the command in the bible, if it was and it changed people's lives, then the bible would have said, go and make people believe by showing them evidence of my existence.

@phrozenwun

Ай бұрын

The word of what?!? You mean the words of humans professing to speak for an incoherent bit of make believe, those words?

@joshsheridan9511

Ай бұрын

​@@georgeaguilar6996the problem is that you have no evidence George

Repent of your sins. Believe in Jesus Christ for salvation and become a new person in this life. John 3:16, Luke 13:3, 1 Peter 1:23 KJV

@andrewsad1

Ай бұрын

Definitely gonna convert a lot of people in here with that

@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2

Ай бұрын

​@@andrewsad1how can anyone possible say "no" to a list of first names and timestamps? Where do I sign up!!!?

@joshsheridan9511

Ай бұрын

I don't need to become a new person I don't need to repent And your bible is irrelevant

@MarkMiller-gt5tu

Ай бұрын

​@@joshsheridan9511Preach it brother!! 😂

@holgerlubotzki3469

Ай бұрын

Jeremy should repent of his his stupidity and grow up.

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