DIY Lithium! 64AH for Under $400!! Car Audio Battery
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Links!
Busbars: jag35.com/products/custom-alu...
Headway Cells: batteryhookup.com/
Case: bit.ly/2UDE5SN
Balancer: ebay.to/346VZRb
Heat Shrink Rink Terminals: amzn.to/3aGoVC1
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This is the first time I've had the 72 ah of headways in my whip for more than a 10 min torture test. Dude, Parker get some ultracaps to go between your amps and headways... brah I've been doing this a min n I'm telling you, ultracaps AND lithium is whas up man... research it if you want but an xs power SB 630 farad in my little 7-9k system has my voltage more rock solid than I thought poss! for approx $800 for lithium and ultrcap... im surging almost 800 amps and steady 13.8-14.3 the ENTIRE time... Level up brotha! Thanks for turning me onto the headways! So glad I took the plunge!
I have been following your videos for a few months now, I’ve started putting together a setup of my own. I just have to say I appreciate you putting in the time and sharing what you’ve done it’s been so much help.
All of us that have been doing lithium cells since they came out are enjoying the builds.
Just purchased 28 headway lithium,super excited & the links u left will help out alot. Thanks
Good info in my opinion. I’ve been looking into this part of the game the most right now... trying to figure out the best electrical possible.... and also how to make it as affordable as possible. Thanks so much for the videos man!
@ParkerTheBasshead
4 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
Awesome job! Lower cost alternatives = more money for upgrades - thanks for this
I've been doing this exact same thing for the longest time, im glax you made a video about it to inform all these people, and save them money and get a bang for their buck good work man.
@lesteranderson3350
2 жыл бұрын
Do you still recommend buying that same set up or has something. Wtter come out??
@rustywrench500
2 жыл бұрын
@@lesteranderson3350 depends what do you need it for, what's the application.
@lesteranderson3350
2 жыл бұрын
I have a high amp alt with big deep cycle for 2nd battery. Running skar 4500.1. My deep cycle does pretty good but lithium would take me to next level..
@rustywrench500
2 жыл бұрын
@@lesteranderson3350 have you looked into yin long? They make amazing lithium batteries, I would say that the option in the video is a really good one but if you're not familiar with batteries on an advanced level then there are some major risk factors, but if you know what you're doing then this is a very good solution and very cost effective as well.
Great video. Seen a lot of lithium on car audio videos never understand how they worked. Thanks for the breakdown.
@ParkerTheBasshead
3 жыл бұрын
Good to hear man!!
Commercial-Grade Bass!! Freakin love it! You never cease to amaze and impress me, you show doing it right doesn’t have to be hard or expensive. You along with EXO!, Soundman and Car audio fab keep it rockn on KZread and Big D Wizz to finish off the audio entertainment ROCK. There are others of course but you guys do it mostly solo like I do when I do my builds. Looks like your never going to stop! Oh ya!!
@floridaboys13
4 жыл бұрын
You forgot Steve meade design
@Tabascorider
Жыл бұрын
@@floridaboys13 exactly, definitely deserves a mention ,Steve is badass
Thought I was subbed missed this one. Straight legit ! Like some others have said a little thicker buss bars would be better but very nicely done. Now build me one 😂.
Thank you I’ve been look for a video that would help me began this project
I definitely have to switch from AGM to lithium batteries all that under $400. Keep up the good work good to see North Carolina in on the sound scene
@mikehoncho5360
2 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah me too
I made the mistake of going with the yinlong, and now I see this was the way to go. Thank you
@dr.dylan123
Жыл бұрын
What's wrong with Yinlong? If your alternator charges high you should be fine right?
😀👍 I just had a tear of joy. Yeah bro, now that's awesome! I bet it will perform better now. Very impressive bro. Keep up the good work.
@ParkerTheBasshead
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@MadDragon75
4 жыл бұрын
@@ParkerTheBasshead nah man.. Thank you!
Youve inspired me to build my own 24ah headway battery..less than 200$total..buyin a premade battery is is around 500plus..watch him and learn fellas
This was an awesome surprise! Great to see you tackle a DIY lithium battery. I have been wanting to do a lithium battery myself for a couple of years now, and i've done tons and tons of research. The absolute best cells to use are A123 Systems 26650 cells. They are little 2.5 ah cells, but you can get a box of 100 cells for about $500 if you are lucky. These cells are capable of 50 amps continuous discharge each! to put it simply, 100 cells make a 62.5 ah battery that is capable of 1250 amps continuous discharge @ 12+ volts. It would support 15,000 watts continuous easily and 36,000 watts burst for 30 seconds.
@ParkerTheBasshead
4 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome man!
@catch22frubert
4 жыл бұрын
@@ParkerTheBasshead If I'm lucky enough to get my hands on a full box of the A123 systems batteries while NY is on lockdown, I will be sure to post a video of it running my Orion XTR-2500.1dz so you can see how well it hold voltage. To be honest, I have the knowledge, and the free time these days. I'd love to start a lithium battery company. I would have to call it "Electron Bomb"!
@jkbrows1095
3 жыл бұрын
@catch22frubert 50 amps from a 2.5ah cell is 20c but the headway’s are actually capable of 25c so his 64ah bank could discharge 1620 amps with large enough busbars and equipment to handle it. There are multiple brands of LTO cells and LiFePo4 that can discharge 50c to 100c as well. If you are mainly looking for a lithium cell with a high C rate there are a few better options out there, and I realize I’m 10 months behind, so you might have already learned this on your own. I was just trying to help out cause I spent a bit of money buying the same exact cells then started finding so many cells with higher output and I was pretty upset.
@robloxmacosx8878
Жыл бұрын
@@ParkerTheBasshead hey Parker nice DIY battery video I was just wondering if you had any old cars audio tuff that you did cuz I gladly take it my mom sez its ok
I was just searching lithium batteries today. Good idea, bro! Thanks
@ParkerTheBasshead
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah man!!
Tessa tape would be perfect for this build! Nice work.
This is awesome, can’t wait to see what’s next!
We are all waiting for the built bro stay safe see you on the next ...
@ParkerTheBasshead
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks you too man!
That's awesome! Seeing you build this for that price, I definitely want to build one now and it would be perfect for my 4,000 watt system. Please can you add links in the bio for everything I need to build it. Can't wait to build one. Thanks Parker!
@ParkerTheBasshead
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah man I’ll try to add links this evening
@xtrmbrazen6153
4 жыл бұрын
@@ParkerTheBasshead cool man ty!
@dwaynetaylor1873
2 жыл бұрын
@@ParkerTheBasshead I was wondering if you started making these and selling them to people? If so how much are you charging?
Suns out guns out. Great video keep it up bud!
@ParkerTheBasshead
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
Great video. Very clean work.
@ParkerTheBasshead
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Great video. IV always wanted to try out lithium due to weight and space but I don't understand any of how to build and hook it up lol.
Your best video yet.
@ParkerTheBasshead
4 жыл бұрын
Really?? Thanks man!!
Awesome ! Cant wait for the how-to vid !
@mazda2284
4 жыл бұрын
check out mine
Sweet been waiting on this video
I'm going to want to build one of these. I wish the voltage rested over 13v, but still better than my AGM resting voltage. Can't wait for the next video. I'm also interested to see what you're going to use for a charger.
@alaskadroneshots1057
4 жыл бұрын
bassmansoundking99 I have a a 96amp hour pack that I built. I just run a 1/0 straight from my 240 amp alt to the battery. Fully charged it sits around 14.-14.6. I have had this battery for a year now and have no issues.
@jahlieel.e7856
4 жыл бұрын
@@alaskadroneshots1057 do you have a video on it. Which brand did u use. Thanks
@alaskadroneshots1057
4 жыл бұрын
Jahliee L.E no I don’t have a video. I just used the headway 38120s in a 4s 12p configuration
@jahlieel.e7856
4 жыл бұрын
@@alaskadroneshots1057 thanks
@jeremycrabtree7683
4 жыл бұрын
Mine charge at 14.4 with stock alt & rests at 13.3. My system would have my xs power d3400 into the low 12's at full tilt after a song. Ive tried getting my bank to drop into the high 12's but its a no go. Makes such a huge diff with only 40ah/20 cells :)
Awesome video bro, great stuff
i have full videos on my channel , they also make 38120 cells that are blue and you dont want those , ones we use are 38120 HP ''high power" and are red , these will smoke that 45ah limitless in performance lol ! yinlongs dont need over 15v they can be run as low as 14.4v , what i recommend is 14.6v+ charge go yinlong , anything under 14.6v charge i do headways , yinlongs do best at in the 15.2-15.6v range , anything over 15.6v dont add anything , but even at 14.6v the yinlongs will do better than the headways due to being a 13.8v battery . yinlongs can not be mixed with AGM like these though .
Wouldn't packing it into a case and surrounding it in foam dampen the cooling ability, and potentially over heat the cells?
The battery turned out awesome man! I’ve been considering using a bank of 8 headway myself.
@ParkerTheBasshead
4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you man! Crazy much power these things can handle for being so small
@FATHERSOFBASS
4 жыл бұрын
Wackkk
@tusabea
3 жыл бұрын
Parker Dacchille are you still Building and selling these battery?
That’s a sweet DIY. Looking forward to the testing.
@ParkerTheBasshead
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@PeterFeltersnatch852
4 жыл бұрын
@@ParkerTheBasshead good job you doing great.... Hey do me a favor can you underneath here post a link to that thing you use for the terminals put on the ends of the 0 gauge. I know it's a lot cheaper than getting that hydraulic one. The one you use a hammer with... Thank you Parker 👍👍
@That_Car_Kidd
4 жыл бұрын
Simple Man I have the same shca terminals Parker used and all I did was use a hefty chisel and smack it with a big hammer. Kinda ghetto but gets the job done cheap and easy, after you put heat shrink on nobody can tell the difference. 🤷🏻♂️
With lithium or these headway cells do I have to worry about weather affecting them? Minnesota cold and heat?
Thank you for this video.im going to run 4 skar zvx 18’s on a 12k TARAMPS amp
Man I am about to buy batteries to make me one. This dang Covid19 right now. Screwed me up on ordering my batteries!! I'm soooo close to being ready for the build... All I need is the battery. I have a XS3000 but I don't want to buy another. I want to go lithium but like you price point big factor, limitless....well my damn pocket isn't limitless lol lol....oh and I too want it to be able to play nice with my agm under the hood. Plus my XS3000 I think weighs close to 80 freaking pounds!! I absolutely need to go lithium. Loved the vid!!
@ParkerTheBasshead
4 жыл бұрын
It’s worth it man!!
If you used one bank like this in the engine compartment and one in the trunk, would you want to use a 4s balancer on each or an 8s balancer on both?
did you charge the cells before install? what charger do you use?
YO PD! Question 4 U: Should I upgrade my factory battery before buying a second battery now that I have a 390a alternator?!? I was about to purchase Down4Sound's new lithium second battery but remembered I STILL have a very basic stock battery. Would be nice to know in what order I ought to do things although every situation may be unique, I'm inn need of your expertise bro.
how it will be charge with the alternator? do i need dual batt isolator?
How am I supposed to charge lithiums? First time getting on with lithium 🔋
You explain everything really well. You think these would be good for a solar battery bank? 🤔
What type of battery charger are you using for these?
How would you hook this up to charge with your underhood lead acid battery and alternator?
it nice to see another guy with a sequoia doing audio setup...i taugh i was the only one lol
where do you know that equalization does something
Hey I was wondering if you have her heard of Dakota lithium batteries do you think those could be used in a car audio build
So I can pair this with other battery chemistries? I have a lead acid starter battery and two deep cycle sla/agm mighty max batteries in the back.
How many cells should I get to support 6500watts, I currently have a 300a alternator, 1 xs power d3400 under the hood, and 1 d3100 in the rear, my amps will be running at .5
Two questions which balancer do I need the link has many options. Secondly how do I charge it what kind of charger should I get im assuming I will need one....
You think 48ah of these would be enough to delete the front battery and run 2000w rms on a stock 135amp alt?
What about the amazon 100ah lithium batteries used for energy storage, they are $329 and boast 100ah… are these a good option as well?
Will this run my car as well as my audio system? I heard you can't add lithium to another type of battery like wet cell or AGM. I was looking to do a battery delete and just run lithium in the back.
Hi Parker. I got the exact same set up but I'm getting 14v. Not sure what I did wrong. My balancer did not like it!
How many cells would i need all I have right now is an x18 v1 on a soundqubed 1200.2 for now until its broken in? Not very experienced in car audio yet
I have an option to install either 100 ah lead acid battery or 50 ah of lithium for my setup. Which do you think would be a better option and why?
Hey man, any chance you have the template for those buss plates? Apparently they're not making them anymore.
Is that a 4s balancer idk that much about lithium but looking at the headway 10ah to make a 80h bank
Could someone help me out and tell me what size battery can be built from a Superbeast battery? I'm new to this and trying to find out what size buss bars needed to get. Thanks!
Dude where did u get your spl meter you use in the videos really want to buy it thanks????
So I have a stock alt of 170 , Xs power d3400, Big 3 done if I add that I can do a 5k amp ? With a Little 4 channel amp ?
Can someone tell me some information/specs in layman's terms on a US Amp 4300x. It's also connected to a "bridgeable" (connected?) 1000 watt amp with a capacitor and a 6 channel line output converter. Thanks
Hey Parker awesome vid as always. Im just kind of moving to more comp style woofers and stuff and was wondering if i could make one of these but half as big so id stay around the 200$ mark? would that work, or does it have to be this size so it is 12v? sorry for my ignorance, just trying to learn as much as possible before i hook my new stuff up.. fyi I will be running 2 Db Drive Wdx g2-4 12s rated at 1250 rms 2500 peak each (tried to get xfl 12s but everyone is sold out even american bass) on a vfl 5500.1 which i think is putting out around 2500 rms... thanks for any advice.
@ParkerTheBasshead
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah man so long as you have 4 cells in series you will be at your 12 volts. So you can build a bank with any multiple of 4. So yes 16 cells should be plenty for your power.
How many AH's will support a 3K amp? Also are those the 38120 cells?
How many should I run for 7000 watts and how should I hook them together if I’m keeping my agm battery
Great video! Just one recommendation get an HA02 balancer they're more expensive but it will work better and last easy longer than that $10 one you have.
@catch22frubert
4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely 👍, look into some higher quality BMS options, and maybe a lithium battery charger to hook them up for a proper balanced charge once or twice a week.
@mazda2284
4 жыл бұрын
i disagree , that balancer way more expensive and way overkill being that it will do 1000ah no problem , another factor is balance rate the HA02 only does 2mA balance current in our application , this balancer does 1.2A current for balance !!! so its way faster. @catch22frubert a full blown BMS for our use would cost 5 times what this bank cost IF you can even find one ... typically a bms for something like this would have to be custom made and most likely be from a china company .
@mazda2284
4 жыл бұрын
@@catch22frubert also NO !!!! DO NOT put these on a charger once or twice a week , you will ruin them ! these are not AGM ! its 100% pointless to charge these unless they are low like below 11v , and in that case id use a variable bench power supply not a charger designed for something specific . the bench power supply can be used for anything 0-30v
Could this be properly recharged with a stock alternator. I have a 2009 Tahoe with stock alt. Also does anyone have a reference for a battery half this size??
Does it matter which balancer you use?
Ok, so I'm first timer into learning all this and if a standard battery already has about 50ah, what are the benefits, or why should it be better spending this amount of money vs just buying another reg battery. What are benefits this type battery for system?..NVM..Just watched next video. Lol. Next question. Can you jump start lithium with another car if dies?. Can replace agm with lithium?
Cant find the batteries on that site. Any place else to get the cells cheap?
Do you need isolate agm from the lithium
bringing this back, but do you really need to have 32 of them or would 16 be fine?
Great job!!! I need one of these. Just dk if I trust myself to build one and not burn my truck to the ground lol.
@ParkerTheBasshead
4 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha I feel you
Pretty soon your gonna build a wall. Great vid. Keep it up.
@ParkerTheBasshead
4 жыл бұрын
Haha hopefully!
Is there any other place to get the case from besides AliExpress? I rather not wait that long for shipping
You’re the man!
I was wondering if anyone might know how many Ahof lithium you would need for up to a 20k system?
What's your thoughts on lithium vs ultra cap bank vs agm for demoing
Did u balance them out before setting it up
Thanks Parker!
Are you using this in conjunction to a standard battery
What size are the bolts?
How many watts does the 64 ah lithium bank provide?
How many Ah of agm does this lithium compare to?
Can we get an update on the headways if you still run them @Parker?
Dude, this is dope! I'm impressed. I just spend $375 on a xs power 3400 agm battery and some side post terminal adapters! And I coulda had this lol!? Plus I bought this to make my skar rp2000 happy, but I bought it about 40 days ago, and I've had to send it back twice cuz they went into permanent protect. Fist one lasted 7 day at 4 ohm, and second one lasted 9 days at 1 ohm. (Initially had to break my American bass elite in at first so had to run at 4 ohm.) So it's been super unreliable and it really sucks. And I got a decent bit of money into this so I'm just a lil upset. But dude that is super dope and look so easy and actually pretty fun! Crazy watching you get smarter and smarter. And hearing your name more and more in bass head community. "That parker kid" they always say lol. Congrats on your success man!
@ParkerTheBasshead
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!!
@catch22frubert
4 жыл бұрын
I own a Skar RP-2k as well, but mine has been solid for 3 years! Sorry to hear yours went bad twice! You should think about getting rid of the Skar, and getting a Soundqubed S1-2250. Much better amp with a clip light on the bass knob for similar money, about $250. Wolfram also makes a 2500 watt $250 amp with a clip light, the C-2400 I believe. I might even be willing to sell you my Orion XTR- 2500.1dz if you are interested.
@1ohmwrecker
4 жыл бұрын
@@catch22frubert if you see my videos, I've got okay stuff and tryna do it properly but can't get my amp to be solid for the life of me. I wanted to like skar so much! But I was actually checking out that wolfram 2400. It looks pretty solid. And yeah, the clip light too is dope. I just got money wrapped into this skar, plus a $22 warranty plan from eBay Idk if it'll be refunded too? Just got wrapped up when I only wanted that 140 db daily bumper lol.
@joeb9793
4 жыл бұрын
Sucks that you are having issues with your Skar amp. I have an RP-1500.1 in my truck and an RP-2000.1 in my car and both of them have been going strong for almost 3 years now.
@1ohmwrecker
4 жыл бұрын
@@joeb9793 so I'm just that unlucky mf as usual lol. I've seen some people say theirs have been solid, I seen some say they had protect problems also and had to swap out 4 or 5 times before skar just gave them a refund. Jordan up at skar has been really good to me tho. So I just gotta trust he fixes the issue!
What about BMS!😐 What if you accidentally over-charge or over-discharge it, so it won't damage the batterys?🤔
Anyone know where to source the busbars? or can link me to a newer more current tutorial video with newer more efficient cells?
Nicely done 👍👍 also stay safe
@ParkerTheBasshead
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
Nice build bro
@ParkerTheBasshead
4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you
Nice I saw some used for $5 each I each I was thinking about getting like 8 for a starting battery maybe 12 would be better but 8 should work fine
@james10739
Жыл бұрын
And what I was going to do is use a bms just for charging possible with a large relay like a solenoid but that might not work well for you depending on your power draw but with a resistor in series for charging like a 1 ohm or .5 ohm to limit current so it doesn't destroy my alternator or the bms
You have to have a h o alternator to use 1 of these?
I've been doing a LOT of research on these headway banks, and I'd really like to build one for my system. But my alternator charges at 14.9v, and I can't find a solid answer on whether or not that would be safe with headway cells. Don't want to start a lithium fire in my truck 😂.
Only problem i see is the bussing is super thin. Definitely need to thicken that up for the power your gonna be drawing.
Awesome video thank you.
Nicely done. Are you going to use any external low voltage and low temp protection to prevent cell damage?
@mikehoncho5360
2 жыл бұрын
I’m curious of that too. So you don’t need a bms?
I have been looking at your video for some good time. You do a great job installing.I have no idea how install.its cost me to much to have someone to keep changing amp Speaker wire etc out my car .l need help. Good with tools.The wire process not bit.need help.
Where can I find the battery box at
Hi, I'm new. One question, how many amps does something like this have?
Hey Parker love the Vidoes, how do you regulate the flow from the car alternator to the bank? I know u have balancer, but that's not a amperage regulator, and there doesn't seem to be a BMS with a high temp low temp, hi voltage charge cut off, or any kind of high amp cut off protection, and no bluetooth to watch the bank. I'm glad u put itbin the battery box though. Just wondering, thanks!
@mikehoncho5360
2 жыл бұрын
Me too
@babyTOY-YODA777
2 жыл бұрын
Good point. The alternator will regulate voltage and current on its own, based on the voltage provided fielding it, as well as the control input from the PCM. However, lithium does not charge the same as lead acid. 99% of vehicles from 90s to 2010s will only allow the alternator to charge around 2 to 4 amps unless the load is particularly high for some reason, like fans and lights are on. So there is regulation, it's called a voltage regulator and rectifier bridge. In a real serious setup I would use or make my own separate regulation control.