What do you guys think design wise?

@802Garage

2 жыл бұрын

Shorten the height a bit, shave the tops and bottoms of the bell if you need to, cut a corner off, make it happen! Great idea to draw actually cold air. Factory air boxes work better than most people think.

@star0938

2 жыл бұрын

I have a 2020 Elantra turbo, one big down fall is after you play around a bit you lose power do to heating, so I got a INjEN air intake that goes down near the Intercooler down in the grill, feels a lot better, not like there’s more power but holds the stock power really well, it’s a 6speed as well so you feel the difference, food for thought! 💭 best of luck dude!

@technicallyeco.2751

2 жыл бұрын

Have had the same idea cool to see someone doin it 👍

@bryantnecessary7719

2 жыл бұрын

It looks like you just need to take that corner down a bit, I would take a strait edge around it and drop that corner 3in at an angle to the opposite corner dropping only 1in. You could just cut faces of the prototype and use them as a Stencil for whatever material your going to work with. Starboard is also something to look into for strength and low weight. I live in Houston to and just settled on a k&n and stock filter, my car is still stock slow tho lol 1.4 with no tune bah humbug.

@ijxpanz

2 жыл бұрын

Look nice but you need to shorten the height not too much

I was out in the garage working, got the notification and was like, alright going in just to watch this. Loving the build as always man. Going back out to work now. :D

@cmattdabrat

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Better get back to it!

If you’re going to do this custom, I see a custom fog light insert with a cone filter behind it snaked up to the turbo a more efficient design to pull the coldest air possible.

@DragonKillah

2 жыл бұрын

Personally I could see that working similarly to how many other builds remove the headlight. Personally I wouldn't go this route in case I decided to run ducting to my brakes for auto cross racing(although I know Matt is going to be doing 1/4 mile). He also did say he wanted to keep the filter up higher because of potential flooding in his area

@cmattdabrat

2 жыл бұрын

That's a great idea. I've seen that on ZZP's Sonic. Looks like they recently ditched that idea and just have a tube going to the fender well. As simple as that is it definitely works.

@cmattdabrat

2 жыл бұрын

That's true and its definitely crossed my mind. My only issue with it being so low is it will limit days I can drive the car, and I plan to drive it a lot. When it rains, it'll stay parked, but I do plan on doing events such as drag week where the car will be driven well over 1k miles in all kinds of weather.

Looks good! Reminds me of the old SLP air boxes that you could get for the 4th gen Trans Am/ Camaro!

@cmattdabrat

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Been thinking about the design some more. May or may not go this route. :)

Bro ur from Houston too! I've binged the last 2 rainy days watching every video of this build. Love the idea of this

@cmattdabrat

2 жыл бұрын

Hey! Hope you're staying dry. That's awesome! Lot's more to come.

Good to see you back with videos and tinkering in your garage! :)

@cmattdabrat

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Great to be back and putting the space to use.

Always fire 🔥 love the music as well!

@cmattdabrat

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Hey man. This is really smart thinking. I'm doing something similar but for a Miata 1.6 (European small engines😅) NB2. Only comment I have which I'm gonna do is to make also the bottom from Carbon fibre. During my own research apparently the stock airboxes work very well then only problem is they actually act as heat soak boxes.. So if the whole thing is made of carbon you get cooler intake temps.Great video all the same..Cool tip, you can also now get SOLIDWORKS foe entrepreneurs, and its like 60dollars a year or something, and could be easier to use than sketch up...👍👌

Awesome video bro! Your mind is a genius! I rock a 1.8 myself.

@cmattdabrat

2 жыл бұрын

That is awesome! Thanks!

Anyone with a factory turbo car would love to dress up the stock air box with this beauty

Personally I see merit in the aftermarket CAI. I run the K&N Typhoon you pictured and what I would personally do is run with that design and seal it all in to where it pulls from the hole in the fender well. Similar to the ZZP CAI for the 1.4L, but a full box with the cone style filter instead of just a divider. You could further run a mesh over the hole to restrict some larger debris floating up into the fender well. I believe the inlet tube from the K&N can be separated from the divider. If you want I can go tear mine apart and give you the lowdown and possibly sketch it up. I'm on Cruzetalk and could send you the files/info there.

@cmattdabrat

2 жыл бұрын

That would be awesome. I see merit in it as well. I personally dig the ZZP CIA. Realistically, how efficient the intercooler is makes a bigger difference in the air temps seen before it goes into the engine. An air to water setup with an ice water box would negate the need for an intake all together. But, this build isn't at that point yet because I'm still using the stock ECU. Part of the AIT is read from the MAF sensor. The ECU will pull timing based on what air temps it's seeing. My user name on CruzeTalk forum is Crewz. Feel free to send the measurements there. I'm on their FB group as well.

You did a pretty damn good job if you ask me sometimes you run into a little hiccups but that's not expected but all in all it turned out nice

@cmattdabrat

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! All part of the design process. We'll get it.

Liked because the beer 🍻

@cmattdabrat

2 жыл бұрын

Hah! I appreciate it.

I got my bell mouth from Home Depot. Does not retain heat like metal.

Grab one of a turbo then do your mods to it meaning the base should fit. It was me I would just run a snorkel down into the hole. It's getting there 👍

@cmattdabrat

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback! Definitely something to consider.

Nothing wrong with the old school K&N cone filter. Just have it outside the engine bay

@cmattdabrat

2 жыл бұрын

I've thought about that. My only issue is driving around when water get high and it sucking in water. It's happened before to a build I did back in the early 2000's. Dodge neon. Was driving at night and got caught in some high water. Well at least high enough that the engine sucked up water.

@HopsAndLead

2 жыл бұрын

@@cmattdabrat Oh damn. Maybe something like a shaker style?? 🤔

Matt, you should do a mock up to measure how many grams per second your original design could handle using a MAF sensor. My 1.4T stock can draw typically 120-140 g/sec during a hard pull. Maybe would be just as effective to use a used stock 1.4T filter. I personally think it could draw more air in the right conditions (bigger turbo etc).

@cmattdabrat

2 жыл бұрын

Not a bad idea. I wish there were some more studies, or at least I'm having a hard time finding them, as to what size inlet pipe will support what power.

@canadatransistor

2 жыл бұрын

​@@cmattdabrat it it helps, here is project farm's video where he does air filter testing kzread.info/dash/bejne/pX5nro9-XdjMidI.html I'm pretty sure if you start measuring vacuum (barometric pressure sensor) already built into cruze's 1.4 MAF - you will be able to know the practical threshold for factory sizing. The opposite is true for exhaust. if your diameter is too small, back pressure will be the resultant (positive psi and exhaust will try and compress) on the intake side of the world if vacuum is developed because of too small of a diameter, the engine will behave like there is an air restriction and the actual air will heat up - which is counter intuitive for what you pump into your intercooler to provide maximum oxygen content. in your shoes, I would look at the inlet size at the turbo itself to lean on what the engineers considered as an appropriate orifice size. If you go slightly larger and as straight as possible, you should get the most appropriate results.

@cmattdabrat

2 жыл бұрын

@@canadatransistor Definitely a good watch, and solid data. This is what got my mind working... kzread.info/dash/bejne/pKWY2Nqfp6nYeNY.html

@canadatransistor

2 жыл бұрын

@@cmattdabrat great video- for my turbo cruze it suffers from heat soak between intercooler output and throttlebody. When the car is parked in the sun at work it takes forever to get a "non false" temperature reading from the boost / air temp sensor. It's unbelievable how many minutes the car has to run sluggish to cool it off. I have often thought of putting a fan system / heat sync on that stupid sensor for a timed period if say temperatures are 28deg C or greater. If i was hunting better performance, intercooler would be swapped way before cold air intake. Great video you suggested!

@cmattdabrat

2 жыл бұрын

@@canadatransistor It wasn't a good decision for GM to place the intercooler between the AC condenser and radiator. Kinda defeats the purpose. Definitely have to get the car moving some air through those cores before it'll see cooler temps. With this car being the 1.8 NA variant, it gave me 122k miles of service with no issues, aside from a clutch change at 60k miles. Aside from that, I had no issues until I decide I want to push boost through it on a budget. lol, I've learned a lot in the process and it's motivating learning more and getting everyone's feedback.

Ey the corner that got smashed....would it be possible to replace that corner with a flat side?

@cmattdabrat

2 жыл бұрын

True! I thought about that when I was editing the video. I think I'll play around with that in Sketchup and see how it comes out. Thanks for the feedback!

I love modelo too! Have you tried the modelo negra?

@cmattdabrat

2 жыл бұрын

I have, love it!

I'm trying to get one for my 2014 Hyundai sonata trying to get it to dry more air because those short ram mirrors are trash and my it goes right into the middle of my like engine bay and it's nothing but hot air maybe you could put me in the right direction

@cmattdabrat

2 жыл бұрын

I hear that. I just designed this variation in sketchup, a 3D modeling software and flattened it in Adobe Illustrator.

What software did you use to design this? Looked legit

@cmattdabrat

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Sketchup, and Adobe Illustrator.

Can’t you drop the box idea and put a K&N cone underneath by your wheel well (where you said you want to put a larger diameter pipe) and just shield it from debris BUT plumb a silicone hose through where the stock filter was to the turbsky? Eliminate your fun project of cardboard cut and save vinyl too

@cmattdabrat

2 жыл бұрын

It's crossed my mind, but it tends to flood in Houston often. Guess I'll just have to skip driving it on rainy days. I'm going to think about it.

@fabbricaitalianaautomobili5859

2 жыл бұрын

@@cmattdabrat ahh, it makes sense, but “we” don’t drive race cars in the rain, too little wheel grip 👍

Using that air box will take up a lot of room. Look up Injen Cold air intake for this car and it’s just one long pipe.

@cmattdabrat

2 жыл бұрын

True. It'll have to be custom because the entire build has nothing in the stock placement being a turbo charged 1.8.

The song used is Mr. Big stuff who do you think you are????

@cmattdabrat

2 жыл бұрын

LOL... the songs used, in order; moist, chef Brian, and dancing with the devil...

Before you proceed, investigate why the boost gauge doesn’t respond properly. If your boost source line is kinked you’re flying blind. Consider redoing your oil drain on the pan. You had angled to the ground last I saw, that’s not good. I’m betting you’d like this turbo to last.

@youbannedmealready5825

2 жыл бұрын

I bet your incorrect catch can/pcv setup caused the abnormalities represented in the gauge. If your new motor doesn’t immediately shoot down to ~21”Hg please stop and address it before continuing.

@cmattdabrat

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Definitely will. Just going to try a vent to atmosphere setup.

Bros never making a part 2 😭

@cmattdabrat

11 ай бұрын

I'll revisit this in the future. :)