Good news! The motor used in this design had been elusive, but the community was able to identify the motor manufacturer and SparkFun had a bunch of these motors manufactured - the motors can now be purchased from SparkFun if you'd like to build your own! www.sparkfun.com/products/20441 SparkFun is an awesome company to support - they've been pushing the hobbyist and open-source electronics space forward for years! This isn't sponsored and I don't make any money from sales or anything like that; I just love what they're doing as a company. I've used a ton of their electronics boards in the past and I actually learned how to reflow solder at home by following Nate's old blog posts: www.sparkfun.com/tutorials/58 and www.sparkfun.com/tutorials/59 Very excited that they were willing to help make these motors more broadly available!

@faeranne

Жыл бұрын

came here after seeing Sparkfun posted the part. I'm very excited to try my hand at one of these really cool knobs. Thanks for providing this.

@odi_de_podi

Жыл бұрын

Those seems like a 3-pin version of old HDD motors. Currently thinking and looking into how this would be possible with an HDD drive motor and those ar also brushless motor's. Unfortunatly those are commonly in 3 phases.

@OMNI_INFINITY

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for posting that video. Today been pondering how to do that without a slip ring, so thus glad to find that video and project!

@OMNI_INFINITY

8 ай бұрын

Ooooohhhh, a special type of motor where the shaft is around a stationary center. Thus it doesn’t need a slip ring

@arva1kes

7 ай бұрын

surely there is way less costly possibility to get haptic feedback, by using some more generic and lower tech brushless motor.

why are open source designs always far superior to anything commercially manufactured. This is so impressive.

@aayaan1935

Жыл бұрын

Because they are innovative and are not controlled by “industrial design” bosses

@laeven_

6 ай бұрын

Because an open source design is designed with the goal of developing a good product rather than how much money can we squeeze out of the consumer

@donkeywhistler

6 ай бұрын

also patents

@hoagie7859

6 ай бұрын

When you're taking a product to market it is going to be stripped down for low-cost parts and manufacturing processes. While this knob is relatively low-cost, there are certainly drawbacks to making it the way this video shows you on a large scale.

@64-bit63

6 ай бұрын

Because these people didn't have to be paid to do the thing. They just loved it so much they did it for free!😊

This is absolutely brilliant. Thank you for open sourcing it! I would love to see a build video.

@paulushdk

2 жыл бұрын

Me too!

@jessehesch

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, a build video would be cool. Get them extra view stats up!

@eagles3ye

2 жыл бұрын

Me 3

@JesseHughson

2 жыл бұрын

Yes please build video

@katalynK

2 жыл бұрын

Oh please, do please upload a build video. I would love to make this knob for myself, too. 😁

This technology suits many markets but as soon as I saw it I couldn't help but imagine it in a car especially with the new minimalistic approach many manufacturers are taking. This really can be a game changer and an incredible solution for the fine balance between reducing cost and maintaining customer experience. Incredible work!

@magnushjort1279

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Touchscreens are reliable and cheap but the lack of tactility is dangerous in some ways, if not extremely unsatisfying and soulless. A contactless system with simulated tactility is the way for the future.

@TheBurnout96

Жыл бұрын

Vw Phaeton had this feature decades ago 😉

@ahyaan2552

Жыл бұрын

@@TheBurnout96 bmw idrive in pre 2010 cars had this

@zimbrotip6728

Жыл бұрын

imagine it on an Fueltech

@essmene

11 ай бұрын

For a car input I would loose the LCD. It would be hard to place the knob in the field of vision of the driver and the traffic. Instead I would include something like a vibration motor and maybe a few haptic fixed buttons. like home, select, quick menu (navi, radio,...)).

I watched this 2 years ago and even 2 years later i find this really freaking cool

I can cross a similar project off my todo list. this has everything I wanted! Well done!

@window.location

2 жыл бұрын

So you were the reason it got recommend to me

@BenCos2018

2 жыл бұрын

fancy spotting you here Bitluni lol

@shyam163

2 жыл бұрын

everything a knob can be, awesome project !!

@jamesmor5305

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe you can add software futures and help with his RAM problem

@bj_

2 жыл бұрын

Same, very well done!

UI tip: pick a font that has “lining numbers” in the OpenType feature set. All the numbers will have the same bounding box width, so they won’t jump around when you go from skinny numbers to fat numbers, like 11 to 12.

@RuslanKoptiev

2 жыл бұрын

monospace fonts

@areox27

2 жыл бұрын

@@RuslanKoptiev lining numbers is different than monospace. Monospace gives every character the same width, lining numbers only applies to digits but leaves alphanumeric characters as-is.

@sparkie5571

2 жыл бұрын

@@areox27 that’s cool! thanks for the info

@nebsu_

2 жыл бұрын

yeah any monotype will do the trick

@TheThursty100

2 жыл бұрын

@@nebsu_ every monotype is number lining, but not every nunberlining is monotype

I love the relative simplicity, yet deep complexity of this device! Absolutely a masterpiece of ingenuity.

@HermanWillems

Жыл бұрын

Simple products, require deep complexity. My manager still not understands that.

We definitely NEED this in synthesizers

This seems like the sort of thing I could imagine Elgato selling

@Shadow__X

2 жыл бұрын

Elgato ForceKnob

@chad_usa

8 ай бұрын

Are you slow? You could say that about any company. I can tell that you don't know anything outside of games if elgato comes to your mind after watching this video. Grow up

@noah6784

2 ай бұрын

Hi chippy

@NachitenRemix

2 ай бұрын

chippy chippy chappa chappa

I don't have a project for this yet but need one in my life! VERY cool! 👍

@rkan2

2 жыл бұрын

I need lik 500

@Shadow__X

2 жыл бұрын

this could be useful to control lights and other smart home devices

@sparkie5571

2 жыл бұрын

@@Shadow__X could combine this with a raspberry pi and homeassist to make an awesome control panel

@PedroBorgesNH

2 жыл бұрын

o kinda wish to use only as a fidget toy, Imagine you can configure lots of modes just to spin the knob around with different feedbacks.

@Shadow__X

2 жыл бұрын

@@sparkie5571 basically my plan, I have home assistant set up on an always on PC. Planning on installing this in my light switch socket and using the mains for power with a phone charger, probably convection cooled for safety

Dude! I would love to see a "how to build" video or written series, this seems like such a fun project to learn and build something that is sooo tactile and useful in my real world. Appreciate your work Scott!

I never thought I would be so enthralled and impressed about a video literally about a knob

This is super cool! I built one similar to this about 24 years ago using a DC motor and an optical rotary encoder. It did not have an LCD display nor button. Watching your demo brought back memories and now I want to build one like yours!

@omnianti0

2 жыл бұрын

the nutton seem cheap to add but the screen is like 80$ and take bunch of space inside

@HAWXLEADER

2 жыл бұрын

@@omnianti0 Well, A pocophone f1 screen is 20$ (1080p ips with touch digitizer) So I bet this little screen is less. This looks like a smartwatch screen which are now mass manufactured.

@HAWXLEADER

2 жыл бұрын

@@omnianti0 Just checked a circular OLED is ~25$ You can get by using a rectangular one if you don't fill it with color.

@kiimaro

2 жыл бұрын

@@omnianti0 LOL, so wrong.

@omnianti0

2 жыл бұрын

@@HAWXLEADER you meam the screen without controller what is of few use here

This is one of those awesome ideas that make you wonder why nobody had them earlier. Totally blown away, I will definitely use this some day for one of my projects! =)

@weezy88420

2 жыл бұрын

BMW's first IDRIVE System in the E60/E65 from around 2002 worked exactly like this. As the menu changed, the turning of the knob changed on the fly. Really cool

@stephanl5546

2 жыл бұрын

The idea isn't new. This is an extremely good implementation of an old idea I would say. Having a physical knob as additional input device for a computer has been there at least 10-15 years ago. The problem back then was that they just didn't find good use cases. I remember that it was marketed as tool for designers who work often with photoshop. The knob could be used to determine brush sizes and in general everything where you have a scrollbar. It sounds cool and I bet it is cool when using, but to be honest, there is no real benefit from it as using a mouse wheel also works pretty good already.

@liquidthex

2 жыл бұрын

Designer: "We should put this really awesome knob customers will love it!" Engineer: "Ok how much does it cost?" Designer: "I don't know like $5" Engineer: "We're gonna go with the $0.20 knobs we've been using." Designer: "But...this will add value" Engineer: "You know what you're right, $0.25 knobs it is!"

@predragbalorda

2 жыл бұрын

Sony rds tuner had that 30 years ago, albeit in hardware.

If I would say "that's brilliant" it would be terribly inaccurate. This is straight up perfect and I'm also glad you open sourced it!

I never knew that I absolutely can't live without such a knob. Well after this video I know my life is incomplete without this glorious device ❤

This is neat, what really amazes me is how intuitive the configurations are and how you smoothly fuses everything together in a clean design.

I realllly hope that this will be implemented to Home assistant. This is a killer device for smart home! Glad I opened my recommendations today.

@LunaticCharade

2 жыл бұрын

YES

@LunaticCharade

2 жыл бұрын

How much does it cost? I can for sure get one integrated, at least the biggest features. With endless possibilities also comes endless integration.. possibilities!

@sparkie5571

2 жыл бұрын

exactly what i was thinking

@Vysair

2 жыл бұрын

Thermostats, smart control, remote control fan, etc. There's so many stuff to use it for too

2 жыл бұрын

yes. this I dont know how I'm going to use this. but i want to build it. i wish we had a collection of theses physical UIs for home assistant

Didn't realize how much I wanted to do a haptic feedback project! This is pretty exactly up my alley. So many possibilities!!

I want this so much. I have no immediate use for it but I want it. There is something absolutely satisfying the way you show it and when you understand what goes into making it, the obsession is even more. Like others have said, this would be a perfect fit for home assistant.

This is incredible!!! I would love to use something like this as some sort of universal control knob for different software. Imagine this being the volume knob for the PC by default but as you open up a particular software you can switch and control certain software features with it. Maybe with an added grid of simple buttons next to it to switch between different things you want to control. I know there are control decks out there for music making, lightroom etc but a knob with tactile feedback of this degree is simply something else. I have pretty much zero experience in electronics or programming/coding but I would definitely put money down on some sort of easy to built kit or pre-assembled product! As long as there are ways to configure it on an app by app basis.

@superfluidity

2 жыл бұрын

You could also use it to control playback of videos and music. Have it motorized to turn at a steady pace, then the video speeds up / slows down or goes back wards if you adjust the speed or direction, like a DJ controlling a turntable.

@andreasmass4492

2 жыл бұрын

@@superfluidity Wow! EXACTLY! What an awesome idea.

@KarlHallquist

2 жыл бұрын

Not exactly the same, but Microsoft has the "Surface Dial" which is basically a software defined knob. It changes uses based on the context of the app that it's in. I don't have any hands on experience with it, but from what I've seen, it's pretty neat. So the precedent for its sort of device is there.

I'm actually amazed by the number of modes possible. Perfect OS Nest base. Great job!

As cool as this is I’d love to see an attempt at inertia! Give the wheel a flick and depending on detents and friction the wheel could spin a few revs before slowing to a stop. Video editors have mechanical shuttle jog wheels like this. It’s a gas watching a skilled operator flick them around with high speed and precision.

@DavidLindes

Жыл бұрын

I was absolutely thinking about the applicability of this for video editing. I guess it can't be both jog and shuttle simultaneously, but it can switch back and forth easily enough, and that's pretty cool all on its own. And hey, if a 2-layer version could be made, then you'd have the full package -- PLUS the ability to make it do various other things, too. Very cool project!

@MagivaIT

Жыл бұрын

yes indeed and imagine if it had 4 way push so you can spin to a point, pull down to drop cut video to line, push up to delete etc

@VoidedWarranty

Жыл бұрын

inertia without mass! great idea!

@matbeedotcom

Жыл бұрын

the mx master mouse 3 has this

@rainbowseal69

10 ай бұрын

The wheel will need to be heavier to effect inertia, but that smooth tactical feedback😭😭🥹🤲🏽❤️❤️

I've been searching for something like this for months now for a project I wanted to start working on. This is awesome! I'll definitely be attempting to implement this into my project. Thanks!

This is so well implemented and built. Amazing stuff. This is definitely going to become a norm for new knobs in general.

Love the FOSS implementation! You should look up the NODO Inertia Wheels. They're for the film industry and mega expensive, but they have a few extra features that could be fun to implement. You can adjust the "mass" and the "drag" of each wheel to change it's pretend moment of inertia. I think it's commutating the motor so that it slows down the deceleration.

@eovnu87435ds

2 жыл бұрын

you could see a demo of what I'm talking about at video _fZKYHZE4mg timestamp 1:40

The scripting, narration, and demo was even better than the device itself. Thank you and kudos!

Scott I'm literally losing my mind that I hadn't seen much of your work before now. This is amazing and the fact that you are making it an OS project screams! I don't know where you are located but if you ever want to lean on our workshop for collaborating on something we would be game! I immediately have so many ideas for your rotary knobs and can't wait to make some.

The functionality and flexibility you’ve managed to get out of a DC motor to drive an interface device is actually amazing. This could honestly revolutionize the approach to building any kind of rotary input system since the BOM for the rotation elements is so low. I’d suggest also considering a knob+surrounding LEDs build if you’re looking to do further experiments with even smaller form factors. LED light intensity/color could be a feedback mechanism as well.

Wow, great job, looks super clean! Can see a ton of potential uses for this!

@Shadow__X

2 жыл бұрын

it's like the flic twist but better

@mateojbuteler8974

2 жыл бұрын

Oh hi Lewis, how are you doing

5 seconds in and I absolutely LOVE THIS! I have worked on a diy project with cheap rotary encoders and the result was garbage. this looks so unbelievably amazing! great job! I would also happily buy one if you decide to sell them!

This has got to be one of the coolest projects I’ve ever seen

Wow. I had been thinking of building a knob-with-screen device with a rotary encoder but your design has so much more. Thanks for sharing this.

Man this thing is just incredible to me. For checking various HMI evaluations for the setting being adjusted. It could simplify the sourcing of rotary knobs for a large project.

This is legit one of the coolest yet functional things I've ever seen. Incredible job my man!

It's great to finally see an open source implementation of this. This is something that I always wanted to do (ever since I saw BMW'S iDrive knob).

Buddy, you are generous for releasing this as an open source project. You are awesome.

You show here the solution to what the car manufacturers got wrong with their touchscreen only concept. Amazing, I can't wait to see this in action.

@JohnSmith-pn2vl

3 ай бұрын

my tesla is awesome and i never need to use the screen while driving anyway, it is so smart, depending on who enters, everything adapts.

@MostafaElSakari

2 ай бұрын

@@JohnSmith-pn2vlnobody asked about your tesla

@EricChiEric

Ай бұрын

@@JohnSmith-pn2vl press agree to send elon musk your soul

honestly i have watched this atleast 10 times and i love it so freaking much. i wish every rotary input device would be this.

This is wonderful! I hope that some day these become available to purchase. While I do tinker a bit with electronics, I don't think my skills are good enough to do the soldering required for this project.

I liked the video before it had even started, but now I wish I could like it twice. I was expecting this to be something mildly interesting, but this was incredibly interesting. It's so cool that the haptics and end-stops are all managed by software, and that snapping of the dial is really neat too. I can imagine so many great uses of this system in modern and sleek designs. Great job!

@nomusicrc

2 жыл бұрын

You can like it twice but that would negate it you should like it three times

@subs4794

Жыл бұрын

Use your backup/throwaway Gmail account to view this video ;)

Only recently discovered your projects and the way you do things has been very inspirational so far. Great work! I aspire to be able to contribute in the future.

I cannot stand how much I genuinely need this kind of thing on my desk. The detail is so wonderful 🤤

Holy smokes man! This is incredible stuff! I would definitely would love to see an overview of putting together this project. Keep up the great work!!!

Man, you ought to be selling this to a company because this is absolutely astounding.

@TheBurnout96

Жыл бұрын

Volkswagen had this in their Phaeton decades ago 😉

Love the samsung watch wheel treatment of the knob. The interface is really good-looking with a lot of functionality

I won't have the know-how to build this, but want to thank you for sharing such a cool design.

This knob has been in Mercedes cars since like 2015, same functionality too. It's quite amazing that the code for that is opensource, lots of different ideas/products can be made with this thingy alone.

I'm thinking this could work well with Home Assistant, or as a fancy jog wheel for video editing. Maybe mute and volume control for Zoom calls? What else would be cool?

@RobinGerritsen1995

2 жыл бұрын

This would be a next level spacemouse for 3D CAD designing 😱

@RobinGerritsen1995

2 жыл бұрын

Or possibilities for an opensourced smart watch with tactile feedback.

@deprecatedcoder

2 жыл бұрын

Just posted this to the Home Assistant subreddit before seeing this comment. Yes, so much yes! I can envision so many possible uses for this. What an utterly fantastic project. Well done!

@einsteinx2

2 жыл бұрын

Open source Nest-style thermostat perhaps?

@einsteinx2

2 жыл бұрын

Also see my other longer comment, but these would be great for a MIDI controller for audio work!

That is so well thought out and executed. Not to mention the flawless presentation. I am awed!

One of those items where you cant immediately think of a place/use/purpose for it, but you know someone out there will love it. I can see it being used in the AV / Production Studio / Sound Recording world.

This is fantastic, super impressive. Well done, and thanks for open sourcing it!

that's so cool! I'd love to see more inside on how it works

Crazy nice. The fact that this is open source is amazing

I have ZERO use for this personally, but this is one of the coolest things I've ever seen. Best Knob Ever!

Very cool! Love the different interaction possibilities!

This is really great!! Thanks for making it open source, I will definitely try to build it!

Not sure why I got this on my recommendations but I sure am glad I did. This is some interesting stuff and I can already A LOT of cool ways to use something like this. Love it.

this is amazing and the idea that is open source is just pure goodness

One way or another I'm getting these in every room. This is the best implementation of a thermostat/light/scene/volume/fan/everything controller that I've ever seen. I was eying the sonof ns panel with the home assistant custom component. But I'm really tempted to wait for/help with the mentioned revisions and start ordering parts for this.

@lithiumox

2 жыл бұрын

Same I really want to add this to home assistant and make it like a dashboard

@Vysair

2 жыл бұрын

And it can be controlled by 1 knob. A press for mode change

@ryzenryne8747

2 жыл бұрын

"Controls multiple spaces with one haptic knob" would be cool to see one in action

I love haptics, they're sooooo cool! And this project is also awesome!

Holy cow this is amazing. Not often do I get legitimately excited on youtube but today I am EXCITED. Can't wait to dig into this. Thank you for sharing.

id love if we started seeing these actually used like everywhere because this is the perfect line between digital and mechanical which giving the best of both worlds and making everyone happy no matter what you prefer

Incredible, please make a video on the internals and how it comes together!

This is super cool! I'd love to see an integrated modular product.

Very cool project. This would make a killer Home Assistant control panel! Thanks for open sourcing your work!

I'm very very impressed. Would love to hear more about what you're doing with this Scott

Wow this is insane. Thanks for sharing this. I would like to see a build video too!! 🔥🔥

It would be dope if this could be added as a matter device and be used and customized for actions in smartthings. Like managing light brightness or volume on something

I absolutely need to make this because this is not only a functional knob that could be put to good use but it would also be an amazing fidget toy

I have no idea what I would use it for, but I absolutely love the idea and the implementation. One possible solution... an all in one controller for home automation. Changing temperature, lighting, etc... with the knob.

Wow! I could see this making a HUGE impact on Amateur Radio imagine being able to setup the main rotary encoder (VFO knob) to your exact requirements of feedback on CW/SSB but also then it automatically select itself to Detent mode for FM/AM use! Then if you had a radio with a Menu system of settings it would be useful for that too. How long before someone uses one in a uBITX HF kit ? 😁#KD8CEC #uBITX

@AMalas

2 жыл бұрын

You can be the one!

@navatone

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, that's a really nice idea!

2 жыл бұрын

or even using several of these encoders on an advanced rig not just for the vfo but also for clarifier, af&rf gain, if shift/width, DSP control and then dynamically change them to rf power/drive, mic gain/compression/eq, CW keyer speed when going tx or adapt knob usage depending on the selected mode. That would cut down fiddling with the menu during the QSO and get rigs closer to a full hardware control like with dials and knobs on classic analog rigs. Modern rigs, albeit with better performance, became a bit cumbersome to operate compared to the old ft-902dm or ts-830s

I've always wanted to do something like this, but it seemed too far out of reach. You've made this look amazing!

This is super cool. And it being open source makes it really attractive for a bunch of different projects

First thought - This would improve the Nest thermostats UI significantly. Awesome project - thanks for open-sourcing it. Subscribed.

*With tears in my eyes* This is the future I was looking forward to.

Very inspiring! I've been working on a musical instrument controller based off a Teensy and a AS5601, along with some haptic feedback. Really love the addition of the motor and display here. Curious how "smooth" the motor feels when just spinning/rotating it. Ordered a few off Aliexpress to have a play with.

@scottbez1

2 жыл бұрын

This motor is basically completely smooth when unpowered, which is relatively rare - I've ordered and tried a LOT of different motors from AliExpress and most have noticeable cogging.

@kriista

2 жыл бұрын

@@scottbez1 Fantastic! For my controller I put a fair amount of time into getting really smooth skate bearings, and some offset weights (ala fidget spinner) so it tends to skate along quite smoothly on its own. I look forward to it arriving and playing with it. I've not dug that deep in Teensy-land (motor drivers), but the interface options are pretty staggering.

This is actually so cool! I can see this as a great project when integrated with home-assistant devices.

Very, very cool and innovative. Excellent work! I love the spring loaded knob feature.

Love this project! Immediately I want to take a bunch of these in a grid and make a software configurable MIDI controller! Is the size arbitrary or does it need to be that big due to all the parts? For a MIDI controller, half or quarter size would probably be perfect assuming screens are available, but even a grid of full size knobs would be cool. I could also see a use case in controlling custom stage lighting effects and other music-tangential use cases!

@widgity

2 жыл бұрын

I was just looking up micro brushless motors for a midi controller like this when I came across this video haha. I think the key to making it small enough would be a different screen layout (or getting rid of it entirely). I was thinking maybe one screen with a bunch of knobs and each knob just has an led ring to indicate position and notches, then the screen could show actual values.

@BoopyTheFox

2 жыл бұрын

I second this. Being able to configure if a thing is a knob or endless encoder depending on context is probably next generation of midi-controller hardware.

@shivaargula4735

2 жыл бұрын

It looks like majority of the hardware he's got physically inside the knob, but it doesn't have to be that way. If the depth of the device isn't as important, there's no reason you couldn't pack all the hardware further back into the enclosure and just have the knob extending out into the front. Getting the screen functional with that setup would be the only challenge.

This is SOOOO cool in so many ways. I hope you find someone to produce these.

Really neat, hope to see this implemented in more products and homes

This is amazing! You've done such a wonderful job. Thanks for open sourcing this on top of it all!

All that work just so you could say knob. I admire your persistence. Seriously thought very very cool, thank you!

I keep coming back to this video, it's such a wonderful device!

Really cool! I actually had a similar construction in my studies - but it was with a fader - I „abused“ a motorized fader to turn into a slider with software configurable endstops/force feedback. But putting this in a Knob is even smarter - just imagine combining both of these 😊

This is SO cool!!! I haven't built a hardware project in years now (unless you count soldering a usb port to a 5v fan to add some ventilation in my console cabinet) but now I want to build something just to use this thing!

This one is so simple but so well built. There so many usage of it. Well done

this is pure genius using a motor to emulate feedback and springs

I have seen a similar knob today on a trade fair, but the list price was 800 euro upwards. So glad, that you're version is so much cheaper.

this is something that's so specific but really cool for no reason

maaaaaaan this is EXACTLY what I was looking for like 2 years ago!! Thanks for this! cant wait to start playing around with it!

When a company comes out and displays their revolutionary new knob that has never been done before, I will remember your video

Can't describe how cool this is. Absolutely brilliant.

This would be amazing for MIxing in the studio, lighting and on Dj Mixers. Sooo many ideas

This is the single most awesome thing I absolutely don't need but MUST have! I'm obsessed with it now I need to play with it :D

I'm blown away, this is such a good idea.

This is truly a thing of beauty. Brilliant work.

I'm so excited to hear this is open source! So cool, thank you