And yes, these cells suck. Look at the listing, it states brand new, grade a cells. And this is the garbage I got. Grade A cells are ordered. Or so it says they are. That will be next week's video. Hopefully they are good. I hate bloated cells, but ahh well. It's lifepo4, so I don't care. Worst that could happen is over pressure relief valve spitting gas for a day and I would have to wheel the box out of my shop. It wouldnt hurt anything though. I would assume that people watching a raw cell battery build would understand the problems with bloated cells. If not, look it up. I would never do this if it was not lifepo4. I used to build packs years ago with lipoly pouch cells and they will burn your house down. Not an issue with lifepo4, but it would be messy and smelly. And you can't breathe that stuff. So stick to a ready built battery if you don't understand this stuff. *Does off-grid solar confuse you?* Check out my DIY friendly website for solar system packages and product recommendations, and so much more! www.mobile-solarpower.com *Join our DIY solar community* #1 largest solar forum on the internet for beginners and professionals alike: www.diysolarforum.com *Check out my Book* Best-selling and beginner-friendly guide to 12V off-grid solar! amzn.to/2Aj4dX4 If DIY is not for you, but you love solar and need an offgrid system, check out Tesla Energy! They will price out a system and get your house offgrid: ts.la/william57509 *My DIY Solar Equipment Recommendations (Constantly updated! Check here first):* 12V/48V Lithium Solar Batteries: www.mobile-solarpower.com/solar-batteries.html Complete Solar System Component Directory: www.mobile-solarpower.com/solarcomponents.html Complete 48V System Blueprint: www.mobile-solarpower.com/48v-complete-system-blueprint.html Plug-N-Play System Recommendations: www.mobile-solarpower.com/full-size-systems.html Complete "Add to Cart" 48V System Kits: www.mobile-solarpower.com/complete-48v-solar-kits.html DIY Friendly Air Conditioner/ Heat Pumps: www.mobile-solarpower.com/solar-friendly-air-conditioners.html *My Favorite Online Stores for DIY Solar Products:* *Signature Solar* Offgrid One-Stop-Shop. Best Value 48V LiFePO4, Victron and Offgrid Specific Heat Pumps: www.signaturesolar.com/?ref=h-cvbzfahsek *Current Connected* SOK, Victron, Mr.Cool Heatpumps and High Quality Components. Fantastic customer support: currentconnected.com/?ref=wp *Litime* My favorite 12V budget battery!: www.litime.com/?ref=XBIA62RFcalHns *Epoch Batteries* My favorite high-quality 12V battery: www.epochbatteries.com/products/12v-460ah-lifepo4-battery-ip67-heated-bluetooth-victron-comms?rfsn=7352625.50494d *Renogy* A classic 12V solar store that has been around for ages! DC to DC Chargers and more! renogy.sjv.io/n1VjXx *Rich Solar* Renogy's biggest competitor! Similar products, but at a better price: richsolar.com/?ref=h-cvbzfahsek *Battery Hookup* Cheap cell deals bit.ly/2mIxSqt 5% off code: diysolar *Contact Information:* I am NOT available for personal solar system consult! If you wish to contact me, this is my direct email: williamprowsediysolar@gmail.com Join the forum at diysolarforum.com/ if you wish to hang out with myself and others and talk about solar *FTC Disclosure Statement and Disclaimers:* Every video includes some form of paid promotion or sponsorship. Some links on this youtube channel may be affiliate links. We may get paid if you buy something or take an action after clicking one of these. My videos are for educational purposes only. Information is subject to change/update at any time. Electricity is DANGEROUS and can kill. Be smart and use common sense :) DIY Solar Power with Will Prowse is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, An affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com

@bruinv3738

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing. After my aliexpress order for 280ah cells got canceled I considered getting these "320ah" cells, but hesitated due lousy Aliexpress dispute process.

@Dreadlk

2 жыл бұрын

Excellent video, it's so good to see some 48V builds from you. It sucks that the batteries are so poor of a quality but your taking the bullet for those people who might have gotten suckered into buying them. I cannot wait for your testing review of this pack. Also really looking forward to true Grade A cell pack video. :) BTW might be a good idea to keep a charcoal based full face gas mask in your work shop just in case you need to get something out of there without breathing in any of the gas. You could buy an ST-100X or something better and get a good quality canister for it.

@blueskies927

2 жыл бұрын

I’m new to solar. Is the reason you have a 48v system so you can use smaller cables and have higher capacity? Also, do you use 2 inverters to get 240vac or are there single inverters that will do the job? Lastly, how do you wire your panels to the charge controller and what is the wattage/voltage of the panels?

@BenCos2018

2 жыл бұрын

@@blueskies927 you can use single inverters to get 240 volt single phase You have to get the right one though The reason for 48 volt is it allows you to use smaller gauge cables but still be able to have high power loads If you increase the voltage then current will be lower which allows the cables to be smaller

@JRP3

2 жыл бұрын

It's strange that they have 130 all positive reviews on the Aliexpress link. I read a few of them and they seem legit but who knows.

Will, it's obvious that you are the best solar energy content provider on KZread. That's because of your unbiased methodical evaluation of manufacturer's products. Congratulations for finding a way to support yourself and obviously have so much fun doing it, your enthusiasm is infectious. (Infectious might be the wrong word to use at this time)

@brianjrichman

2 жыл бұрын

He isn't afraid to say something isn't good, if it isn't. I like that honesty.

@LordOneHoop

2 жыл бұрын

Infectious is quite a normal word for all times because it has never been different. People die all day and all years and they will do so also in the future. The thing is that people need those infections to get stronger. Or just die as it has allways been. The thought that people are not allowed to get sick anymore is ludicrous.

@Dreadlk

2 жыл бұрын

I really like Wills positive attitude and honesty. I wish I could be as positive as Will, but after being around as long as I have it takes a toll on your optimism.

@adnanadnanovice3158

2 ай бұрын

No it's not, best contest is off-grid-garage from my friend in sunny australia

This guy is determined. He is methodical. Unbiased. Most importantly he shows that he has a strong will to follow a logical path and find answers to questions that help us all. Yes, this Will is a strong will in search of the facts.

@johnandrews9433

2 жыл бұрын

@Ben David just how boomers be when they get bricked up about something

I really appreciate how you thoroughly explain each step (the how, why and when). Great info sensei! I look forward to the next video :D

I started 3d printing cases for my lifep04 cells. So far, seems to work well keeping the cells compressed. Thank you for all of the work you have put into these videos. I built a 12v 280ah lifep04 battery for our camper.

Hi Will, glad you tested these 320Ah battery packs. there is a group of Batteries with 304/310/320 Ah which I have used in strings (2 * 16) now for a while on my (Growatt) Solar system and had very little to complain. One cell bloated very slightly (not like the ones you got) when I top balanced a string of 16 and the seller added one more immediately to the next shipping foc. I'm living in Northern Thailand, which is quite close to China and shipping takes only 2 to 3 weeks, so it is easy to order spare batteries and parts. To save space and to keep potential bloating in check I stack them vertically. 8 batteries are stacked on each other and so far it works. I just received another 32 304 Ah batteries after I made good experiences with the 304Ah variation, but I also ordered another 16 320Ah, simply as it was irresistible low priced for 1,250 USD including shipping to my doorstep (83 USD per kWh, unbeatable) and a similar stack from the same seller worked fine but I have no too high expectations, but then, you never know. I'm in the process to expand to two Growatt SPF 5000 ES with 5 X 16S 304/320Ah strings what should keep my house (including all ACs and pool and water pumps, etc, off the grid for a good time of the year and to keep the house bright during the many power cuts we experience here. All great fun.

It's unbelievable how much I learn by watching your channel. Thank you so much!

so much great information by someone who goes the extra mile to be safe and cost conscious. i look forward to seeing more of your content.

Hi Will, I have given you many excellent recommendations these past few years. Thank you for all your valuable informative work.

320Ah? Wow. Getting so big. Nice overview. Can't wait for the next one. Thanks for sharing.

Makes me wish I could scrounge up $11k and get off the grid completely lol. This system would easily handle my usage 😊

@Kineth1

2 жыл бұрын

@Glitch Inthematrix And energy production from nuclear fusion is only 10 years away. And it has been 10 years away for like the last 60 years.

@skm9420

2 жыл бұрын

@yougotservedyo in my opinion it pays for it self as soon as you turn it on and you have energy independence

@marioalvarezvilla2464

2 жыл бұрын

Sell your car

@LEOhopeful

2 жыл бұрын

@Glitch Inthematrix with the US gov't currently hounding Chinese solar panels...it'll be a while But you can easily find used 335 watt paela for ~$100, just look

@vanderumd11

2 жыл бұрын

How many years would 11k pay your Bill??

I love your channel. I feel like if I watch enough of it.. I will eventually understand all of it. Thanks for these!

Excellent video! Sounds like your setup rocks dude. Thanks for the demo and the costs of all the equipment. Keeping rocking!

These video's are great. Thanks so much for showing us the good and bad of the batteries and equipment. I plan to build my off grid solar system and these video's are priceless. The size of that system would be perfect for my house.

I bought 32 of these for only 3700 shipped. They arrived in great condition and no bloating. No marks to indicate they were used. All seems great so far. I ordered through Alibaba

Thanks for all our hard work Will.

@blueboi5000

2 жыл бұрын

That plastic box you have them in is it safe without having a small fan to take the heat outta the box if it gets any?

I've got 16 of the grade a batteries, building a 24v system. We are in a 5R, and are power hogs. Right now we're just building the system to see where can put and how it goes. Got a little under $2500 (200ah batteries) into so far, also using the overkill bms. I watch your videos, pause and take notes, want to thank you for what you do. We got room on roof for about 12 panels, our ac in basement, only 3 vents on roof, about 300sf for panels. So might use the used panels you had in a previous vid. Also using same container, but smaller, we put a barrier around the packs and then expanded foam in bottom of tote so they won't shift, batteries can be lifted out if necessary. Cause 5Rer's move.

@Mr1DANBOY

10 ай бұрын

I wouldn’t go with used panels if your that limited on space. Get the best panels that fit maybe even bifacial panels especially if your roof is white.

I did this exact same thing a few months ago with the cheapest 100ah LiFePO4 batteries I found on eBay. Took a 2-3 months to arrive just like these and look similar only smaller. I had purchased a sailboat that had been converted to electric, but the lead acid batteries were sulfated. I tried adding magic potions but no luck. Then I got the lithium batteries almost as a test since they were cheaper than lead acid of similar capacity and OMG The performance is fantastic on the boat. I am able to motor for an hour or more at normal maneuvering speeds. I have not done full endurance testing. I'll be adding a second bank eventually. I use the cheap flexible solar panels on the boat.

90% capacity at half price. Absolutely worth it.

I built my own 12V 280Ah battery inside a group 31 battery box using cells from Aliexpress about two months ago. They arrived with slight bloating, about 2mm gap between the cells, so it wasn't as bloated as your setup. I also bought a 200a daly smart bms for the cells at the same time. So far the battery has performed pretty well, have hooked up a 2000W inverter to them and the voltage drop was about 350 mV at 175A. Still a great difference between two sealed lead acid batteries which i had before and my current setup.

@williamvaughan1218

Жыл бұрын

I can't believe how expensive the empty battery boxes are right now.

@AOLITHIUMBATTERY

3 ай бұрын

hi ,this is Aolithium battery ,we have some EVE battery cell in the stock right now ,3.2v 105/230/280/304 Ah with competitive price ,let me know if you need some

Always a good day when a new video comes out!

Great video Will. As always, you make it easy to understand. Thanks for the knowledge

This is the best solar channel on KZread. Subscribed.

You can make manufacturer change their design with a little critic which improve their products for all of us, great job

You put out so much good information, I really enjoy your channel.

Nice, I just built one with 280Ah cells, $2300 delivered with no problems. OYE store. Nice welded studs. Mine has been working great for months. Just ordered another 16 cells for a 28kWh pack.

I am learning so much from you Will, thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!

I was looking at these batteries, i really appreciate the tips and testing.

@denveradventures589

2 жыл бұрын

Let us know if you get them

@nunyabusiness2191

2 жыл бұрын

I bought 32 of the 320ah for 3700 and were grade A!

@whateverthisis3929

2 жыл бұрын

@@nunyabusiness2191that's a whole lot of capacity for that price, i guess you'll be running a whole house on that

@nunyabusiness2191

2 жыл бұрын

@@whateverthisis3929 this one is my smaller bank. I have 2500ah 48v total..i use for power and central air water heater and heating in spring and fall

This was so over my head. But still interesting none the less.

@Solkre82

2 жыл бұрын

Watch his earlier videos it's not as complicated as it looks.

Thank you for excellent videos, Will! It seems, that flexible busbars will better fits for cell interconnections in the battery - it eliminates of expansion/contaction forces application to stud/busbar connections.

@mfgxl

2 жыл бұрын

They call those cables

@sergeyblinov4957

2 жыл бұрын

@@mfgxl, you mean short cable jumpers with cable lugs at its ends? Because, there are special flexible insulated busbars exists, which do not require cable lugs. These are avaible from Schneider Electric and othe brands.

Nice I needed to see this because I need to build one of these to power a glass shop and kiln.

And here's me waffling about buying a 100Ah for my camper... lol. All joking aside, your videos are a HUGE help for nOObs like me who really are totally new to battery technology, especially when it comes to Lithium. There are so many makes and suppliers out there now it is hard to try to decide where to start. Your videos help a lot. Killer system WIll, I wish I had the spare $$ to put in a setup 1/2 that good in my place.

Wow. Young and smart. Very smart. I’m so glad that you are so much into the subject and lot of knowledge. I want to really thank you for putting up this video and also looking forward to see more videos from you. God Bless and Cheers.

I have purchased 64 of these cells. To compensate for slots in the bus bars I fitted brass washers below the busbar and contact washers under the nuts. To stabilised the connections I clamped them with bandit. All my internal resistance were well below the list from Catl. They are allegedly grade A but some are slightly bulged. I top balanced and also fitted 2 amp active balance units to each pack. In time they hold a few millivolts. I have a spreadsheet of all the initial values if anyone wants it.

I've been running a very similar pack of grade b bloated cells for 6 months (16KWH). No trouble. But I found better suppliers and get grade A cells for the same price. No bloating. Built a 64KWH grade A at same price per WH as my first grade B system.

@jeffr7558

2 жыл бұрын

What suppliers do you recommend?

@con-king

2 жыл бұрын

Could you give a link to the grade A cells you bought?

@justdoityourself7134

2 жыл бұрын

@@con-king ​ @Jeff R Great question. I don't know if there is a simple way to put this, but I don't know if it is as much a matter of supplier as it is context. The same supplier might treat people differently. A lot of them are supply constrained and are selling grade B to get by when they are out of stock on grade A. Don't just buy a random item listing. You need to establish a relationship with a representative at the supplier by contacting them directly. It takes time, first you buy a sample with a larger order contingent on the quality. Pooling a few orders together to make a larger one puts you at the front of the line. This sets the context that it is not worth the trouble trying to pull one over on you. Good Luck.

@dcuste

2 жыл бұрын

@@justdoityourself7134 I'm game. How much do you charge for a killer deal with your supplier?

That's another great video, I really love the way you explain everything, I also wanted to know what you think about BYD batteries pack HVM and HVS

Rearrange the letters of Will's last name and you get "Powers". Will Powers! Love your videos man. They are super informative and candid. By far thee best channel on the topic!!

I've been waiting for this video since January

Amazing will, good work ! I learn something with every vid, thanks !

Excellent advice and review. Love your channel. Well done! All the best. Zen

Yes, very nice! I have no idea what is going on yet interesting! I plan to get ur book Will, i expect that will bring me up to speed!!!

Wow what a system! That's a serious lithium battery! Can't wait to see the other "secret" battery 😃😃😃

You are a very impressive human being. Keep up the great work.

Great video Will! I've recommended your channel to another Survivalist KZreadr with a massive following, who's building a small solar system for her off-Grid Solar Van-conversion(one of her many projects!), she may well have been (or possibly will get in touch?) or perhaps just check out your videos, but I recommend you and your channel as the top Solar and Battery channel in my opinion by far! Another great video! I'm learning more every video I check out of yours! So I look forward to seeing the results! I'm wanting to build my own system from the information I've learned/knowledge I've gained this past year, from your channel, but money is sticking point at the moment for battery cells and panels, but once that changes, I'm definitely intending to build my own battery bank and solar array to wire (possibly my house/workshop), but Most DEFINITELY an off-grid Van conversion that Im planning next year!(all being well! So thanks for all the information! Keep the great videos coming!! Ps. I envy the entire set up you have there powering EVERYTHING you are and are intending to great idea the Bit Coin mining to heat the workshop!! (Genius Win win situation there!!) Great stuff! Best regards from London England 👍💪😎🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

I wish I had like 1% the knowledge of electricity and power management you have. I’ll keep watching to learn the other 99.5% 😁

@4philipp

2 жыл бұрын

Don’t just watch, build a small system yourself. You’d be amazed that the learning curve when you connect a little knowledge with actual practical application.

@kodywillnauer9422

2 жыл бұрын

@@4philipp I have been more into soldering and power projects this year but on a tinkercad scale. Right now I am building a fume extractor and will stick to small 12v projects. Just not comfortable enough with electricity to try a larger scale project.

I have 16 280ah on their way. They claimed grade A. Fingers crossed. Thanks for the video.

Pretty awesome system. A far cry from the motorhome back in the day!

May you flourish now and in the future.

Hi Will, thanks for the video and the test results. I'm also concerned about those studs. The base of the welded studs seem small and the contact area with the bus bar is relatively low. Can you let us know if the circular base of the studs are steel or aluminum? If it's steel then it's going to be a problem. Another thing we must note is that they might have welded the studs, not for our convenience, but to hide the scratched/used terminals from prior usage. Thanks in advance!

Best DIY Solar Channel bar none.

Lots of great info. For a while I thought large capacity battery banks were just out of budget for me since I don't make much. I didn't realize that you could buy these used ones

@deejnutz2068

2 жыл бұрын

It's pretty incredible. I'm building a 14kwh power station for my parents RV. It's all wired into a breaker that sits inside the electrical compartment, then they run a 50amp plug into the RV shore power and charge the batteries with a generator using a growatt 5 in one. The whole system is less than $3k

@ryanatkinson2978

2 жыл бұрын

@@deejnutz2068 that's crazy hahaha. I'm thinking of adding some extra range to my 60 mile range Chevy Spark EV. If I can figure out some way to add the batteries in parallel without the car noticing that would be great

@ahaveland

2 жыл бұрын

@@ryanatkinson2978 Don't even *think* about breaking apart a car's battery pack, messing with 400V DC and trying to add your own cells. You would be a danger to yourself and others on the roads too. If you must, then carry extra batteries to run an inverter to charge the car if you can't find a charging station. Better option - just get a car with more capacity.

Good day Will. Could you please consider investigating graphene batteries? It is a fascinating potentially new tech addition. Your experience and understanding could really help people who are waiting for these batteries before adding solar backups with lithium batts. Thanks for the informative videos!

Will I just ordered 16 Grade A (brand new) 320Ah batteries from Aliexpress. I gotta tell you I am super nervous about what I'm going to get. Anyway, watching your 48v battery build really helped me to pull the trigger on the whole DIY build. Thanks and please keep the videos coming.

I recently building a 12V 4 cells LiFePo battery to replace my lead acid battery for my boat. I bought from Taobo (Chinese version of Ali Express) from a company Jiali Technology. Cells are grade A and arrived in mint condition. The price is RMB 680 (USD 99) for one 310Ah cell. They can provide stronger packaging box for extra (USD $4). The problem I encountered is delivery from China to HK. Many courier companies refused to deliver lithium batteries. End of the day it has to be delivered to my friends home in Shenzhen China and I picked up myself and use a cross border van to deliver to HK. The delivery of the cells to my friend’s home is 3 days after placing order. Lucky I lived in HK and not US. I repeat an oder for 4 more cells yesterday.

Awesome video this is exactly what I was talking about.

This is awesome. I bought a set like this a month ago from aliexpress.

Watching your video from Bangladesh. I always watch your video. It is very informative. Thanks for your advice and great effort.

Had you considered adding bypass diodes in between cells to allow them to balance on every charge cycle? Is there any concern with that type of cell chemistry overheating and causing a thermal runaway, or fire propagating from one cell to the next? If so, you could put some thermal barriers in between, which would also provide the cells some room to expand.

great channel, just what I needed!

Well now I'm expecting a battery reveal video for those unreleased ones you are testing!

The prismatic cells from Sky Energy/Calb and Thundersky/Winston always came with bolts and end plates to apply significant clamping force.

@WillProwse

2 жыл бұрын

Yes of course. Those need it. I hated using those.

@mghuertas

2 жыл бұрын

Dont over tight these studs they broke easily

@JRP3

2 жыл бұрын

I also share his concern with the small contact area of the studs, especially with large cells that could put out high currents.

Great video. Love the attitude towards the battery and result. You’re going to make a few purists stroke out but that’s why I love these videos. Keep it real mate.

I like your channel, You have an AWESOME set-up. So I hope Nevada changes the rain catch systems to be legal in the near future. Walmart raised the price of a gallon of distilled water from 80 to 98 cents. 'Distilled' is the best way to insure 'safe' water. Good luck.

@mattsadventureswithart5764

2 жыл бұрын

Your not allowed to catch rainwater from your roof, there?

Whooly Cow!! What a monster power supply!!!!

I have worked out how to use my Victron smart shunt to do capacity tests! Previously it shuts down and loses its reading when the bms shuts down- so Now I connect the smart shunt to the battery, then the BMS. So when the bms shuts down you can still see the A/h on the smart shunt!

Great video! This is off topic, but I am trying to find a rapid shutdown video, to see if there is a DIY option to comply with local processes? Thank you for all you do.

Overkill is now selling a 16 cell BMS. Just a heads up. :)

So around 90% capacity, you might get another 4% from balancing. That's 0.18$ per Wh, not bad. LithiumSolar's review of the same battery showed 96.5% capacity but that was after balancing. I think they should do great for a Van/Solar build. Thanks for the great review :)

@Tommy-B.

2 жыл бұрын

Generally, what makes one battery or technology better for rv or solar or automotive systems? I’m guessing it has do for with the discharge depth? Or whatever it’s called. I know with some you can only use 50%, others are much more. But in theory could I use LiFePO4 in my car? Is it just not cost effective or is it not compatible?

@apainlessone

2 жыл бұрын

@@Tommy-B. The LiFePO4 would start the car but it would cause your alternator to "fry" when charging because the batteries can absorb so much power. You would need to upgrade the alternator or put in an additional regulator to meter the charge output. (I think)

@jghall00

2 жыл бұрын

@@Tommy-B. It's not cost effective or compatible. You can't charge generic LiFePO batteries at low temps. If you want longetivity just avoid draining the battery or get a yellow top. Lead acid is used in cars because it's cost effective. Now my camper could use these cells, because it would benefit from the lower weight and higher depth of discharge. Different use case, as car batteries just start the engine or power accessories for brief periods.

@sailingelectricgitana1286

2 жыл бұрын

@@Tommy-B. As I read it, Lithium batteries are only good for outputting about 100amps. But a car starter motor might require 500+ amps, so still using lead acid for high amp things.

@jimmurphy5355

2 жыл бұрын

@@sailingelectricgitana1286 LFP batteries can discharge at a 3C rate. For these 320 Ah cells that would be 960 amps. 4 in series makes an awesome 12 volt battery - except for the fact they can’t be safely charged below freezing. That rules them out unless you take special precautions to keep them in a insulated case with a thermostatically controlled low power heater.

Wow, for about $10K, you can build a big enough system to power most homes, to include charging a car and running HVAC. Imagine if every home had a system like this.

@brianjrichman

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Think back two decades and this would have been essentially 'unobtanium' let alone anything at 3 or even 4 times the price. To top it all, Will does this by himself in his home workshop. Props for that alone!!!!!

@kimmer6

2 жыл бұрын

@@brianjrichman And to think I started out with 2 trolling motor batteries after the Loma Prieta 1989 earthquake. Stuff is getting better by the minute, cheaper in price, too. Bluetooth components are a real winner. Check your battery state from your couch.

@randybobandy9828

2 жыл бұрын

You can get cells for cheaper than this. This is about $170 a kwh but you can get some for $120 a kwh. Used to be even cheaper a year ago.

@jghall00

2 жыл бұрын

We use 100 kWh a day in summer. My family are energy hogs 😭

@kimmer6

2 жыл бұрын

@@jghall00 You would be paying almost 33 cents a kwh in California. By the first day or two you would be in Tier 2 billing. That would cost almost $1000 a month here. 26 cents kwh Tier1, 33 cents per kwh Tier 2.

Would it be worth making insulated links so that every adjacent pair of cells is bolted at both ends? That would aid mechanical stability.

Great video. Im building a very similar system. Waiting for batteries. Since there’ll take so long I think I’m gonna get 2 MPP LVX6548WPs. Can’t wait to build. I wonder if you top balanced - don’t forget to do another capacity test on those in a month.

I really love the idea of coinminers as heating.

Nicely done ✅

When I first started looking at LiFePO4 as an option for sailboats, $11,000 was low for a small system for a sailboat!

Lol bro that size battery bank is great for almost any house in Jamaica. I'm gonna look into getting these and offering them in the systems my company builds and sells down here

Hi, Will. Thank you for sharing, it's really awesome. I'd like to ask you if it's safe to use such a bloated cells, that contract and expand so insanely. With regard to busbars and mounts and that internal compression issues. I mean they may not have the advertised capacity, but more than enough to cause a mayhem. What do you think?

@WillProwse

2 жыл бұрын

It could blow the valve one day, but it is lifepo4, so not a big deal. I would never do this with a combustible chemistry. Lifepo4 and LTO is all I work with for this reason. I used to use other battery types, but those will burn your house down.

@bumpstart21

Жыл бұрын

@@WillProwse Older video but seeing how cells may eventually start swelling it seems braided buss bars are the only way to go.

Love your videos even though some of it goes over my head but I’m learning. I would love to build a battery system for my house that has solar that feeds to the grid because the likes of the tesla battery is just very expensive but I need to learn more before heading down this path.

@bingosunnoon9341

2 жыл бұрын

A cheap or "repurposed" battery pack isn't worth having. Reconditioned batteries are not worth having either.

I'd like to build a 300ah battery, going to do a campervan conversion here. My head's spinning from all the stuff I need to learn in order to do that. Decided to build a battery thanks to Will's videos. Huge thanks! One thing that scares me more than building a battery without experience is how much the Chinese sellers lie. How can you believe anything they write on Allie Express? They're all brand new grade A cells in the description, but who knows? Most of the sellers that ship down here to Brazil have sold only a few units on AE, so no client ratings or reviews...

@vanderumd11

2 жыл бұрын

Just buy a 300AH and that should be fine and simple

@jiri4023

2 жыл бұрын

@@vanderumd11 That's what I'll do. I guess even if they send used ones, it should be OK for a van. Still studying what BMS I'm gonna need though.

@vanderumd11

2 жыл бұрын

@@jiri4023 you wouldn’t really need anything except a charge controller. The battery comes already built and ready. Trust me, way easier to just buy it already made.

10:49 most 2021 thing I've heared so far 🤣

Nice work bro

This dude is a solar and battery electricity God!

great video....thanks for sharing this info !!

thumbs up for those speakers. They are a 2.1 beast

@WillProwse

2 жыл бұрын

My middle name is Errol. Cool to see you have the same name. And yeah, they are awesome speakers

Can you do a video of how you add additional packs to your system? for example how to add the 320ah cells to an existing 250ah pack and maybe an existing 200ah pack too

regarding the BMS - could you have used a larger one (eg: 20s BMS) and just doubled up the last few leads?

The forum has discussions on the aluminum cells, in addition to compression, or at least solid frame lockdown, they are concerned about electrically insulating separator between cells. Are you not concerned for the wrap leakage?

@WillProwse

2 жыл бұрын

I could but I've seen plenty of packs work fine without it. High vibration environment, then yeah. That would be smart idea.

I'm so glad you did this video Will, I'm thinking of a 2 X 16s 320AH battery setup using 2 X Growatt 5000 ES all in one inverters in parallel. Those inverters have a wopping 450V pv input on each inverter. I would loose my mind if you did a review on one or even 2 Growatt 5000 ES's in parallel for 10KW system. I cant wait to see what test results you get with the A quality batteries you're waiting for. my goal is 32 X 320AH battery's, for around 30KWH of storage power, and 6KW of solar panels. Check out the Growatt 5000 ES you might like it :)

flexible cable or humped bars seems like the way to go

Tesla PW and PW2 (before 2022) are LiOn. The latest ones are LFP (LiFePO4) which don't catch on fire.

Will is going to power all of Nevada soon... this is awesome

cell voltage at fully charged and fully discharge would be nice to see how balanced the cells are.

Hey your videos are the best keep on the awsome work. You should open up a lossigy 24v battery.

It's interesting to see your thought on these! Why didn't you order from a more well-known vendor though? I don't think it's fair to say they're 91% rated capacity when you didn't balance them. My concern with the compression is more to make sure the terminals don't break. I'm super paranoid about that happening. Do you think I'm worrying too much? What I ended up doing was very gently tightening the compression while at full SOC so that it's pretty much just holding them in place (not squeezing) which should allow them to decompress/compress normally without putting any force on the studs. Either way, I'm curious to see how yours are doing after a month or so. I haven't put mine in service just yet.

@WillProwse

2 жыл бұрын

Yes that's exactly my thinking when I stated I want some compression to protect the terminal. I said it before I started building the pack. Even the garbage cells I test usually pull full capacity lately, without any balancing. If they matched them at the factory, they should be at the same exact soc. But yeah, doesn't look like they matched them up. Will need some balancing for sure.

@WillProwse

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I'll cycle them a bunch and retest, then I'll be able to draw a conclusion. I found a new listing that looks way better. And the shipping is faster. $1000 more for this size pack, but they look great. And yes, I never tried this store before. Check out the spelling errors in the listing 😂😂 they were cheap though!

Will, Aluminium studs Vs threaded posts, you have more chance of killing the studs and when you look at the smaller contact surface area, i'll take internally threaded everyday. Besides, can always run Heli-Coils to fix. Bus-bars with elongated holes not for you bloating, just fudge allowance.

@SuperVstech

2 жыл бұрын

Keep in mind the lug is a specific depth, and drilling out to install a helicoil can cause issues. It has been done on the forum, and several cases have ended in electrical fires.

@vanderumd11

2 жыл бұрын

He has done this for years. Trust someone who knows what they are doinf

@bentheguru4986

2 жыл бұрын

@@SuperVstech There are ways to do the job just fine without anymore depth needed, same is just opening up the hole and tapping next size out.

@bentheguru4986

2 жыл бұрын

@@vanderumd11 Yeah, I started working with metal yesterday, electrical the day before....

Thanks from Malta

Nice work bro....

Great content. Do I see correctly that you have parallel-connected the new batter with a batter of another type ? Isn't it a problem ?

I built one of these for my home, here in Ontario Canada the electricity price is cheapest during off peak hours, so I charge the system during the night and only pay .06/kwh . Save at least $2000/year

Im new to the solar power. Thank you for teaching and reviews you have done. One question please, if i have 200 ah lithium battery, how much wattage from the solar panels do i need? Thanks again

This is almost exactly what I'm looking to buy but smaller Ah size, 48V LiFePO4 with 10kWh or 14kWh (200Ah or 280Ah) each on 2 battery packs or 3 packs with 9kWh (176Ah). Multiple separate packs for redundancy. Will be used for a Tiny House on wheels with 100% off grid for at least 14 days of electricity in the dark winter in Sweden when the solar panels produce nothing. Would prefer smaller packs that I can move on my own when needed so will most likely go for 176Ah with 65kg or so. Last I checked it was possible to get 16 pcs grade A 176Ah for $1300 (cheapest size for $ per Ah as far as I found)