Dissecting a Manual Challenge Stradale Conversion - ISSIMI Meccanica

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Ever wonder what it takes to complete the "holy" manual conversion on a Ferrari with the F1 System? It just so happens that our shop ISSIMI Meccnica has just completed (or are in the process of completing) a host of Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale Manual Conversions. Metha, the Lead Tech and Co-Owner of ISSIMI Meccanica has an entire transmission torn down to show us the internal workings of the F1 System vs. the Manual. Maranello is likely not thrilled at this “sacrilege”.
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  • @Wirenfeldt1990
    @Wirenfeldt199011 ай бұрын

    oh shiz! Paulo is in fact a real human and not a disembodied voice in the back of the Carmudgeon Show set

  • @buddahae86

    @buddahae86

    11 ай бұрын

    I thought Paulo was a puppy 😂

  • @akshaysankarshana2405

    @akshaysankarshana2405

    10 ай бұрын

    Exactly..... "PAULO! Sit down, sit down..... Good Boy..... By the way, Paulo's a dog....." Never stops me from laughing.... Really Good video, enjoyed it.....

  • @dpnmodi
    @dpnmodi11 ай бұрын

    Metha's wrench envies the twist in that moustache!

  • @santiagoescobar6239
    @santiagoescobar623911 ай бұрын

    If this guy is Paulo, the same incharge of the backstage of the Carmudgenshow.... is great to finally see the face behind two great channels

  • @elkingamboa
    @elkingamboa11 ай бұрын

    I had to watch three times just for all the car spotting in the background!

  • @Lampredi4
    @Lampredi411 ай бұрын

    Now we know who owns the fire spitting Lancia Delta Integrale Evo II. Paulo looks like precisely the type of dood you’d expect to own two Evos

  • @mickwrinkles2318
    @mickwrinkles231811 ай бұрын

    As time goes on and we get more nostalgic for the things we had, 90s/2000s manual cars will become the most sought after variant. So im all for swapping paddle shifters out and making the car more 'personal' to drive. So many cars from the 60s to 80s had those awfully slow 3 or 4 speed automatics, so the realm of possible manual conversions is quite large. I imagine a 300 SEL 6.3 with manual swap will release a lot of driving pleasure, a Ferrari manual swap will be even more epic.

  • @Talynen

    @Talynen

    11 ай бұрын

    I also think it's important to encourage these kinds of builds because there were so many amazing cars from this time period that weren't offered with manual gearboxes (E46 CSL) and are improved so much from a driving experience standpoint to have them. I don't have any clue how feasible it is, but I'd love to see someone figure out how to swap a manual into a Lexus LFA. Based on people's feedback from driving manual F430s (and how "responsive" the engine is in a way that they didn't really experience by using the F1 box), it feels like a manual LFA would be a life-changing experience.

  • @mickwrinkles2318

    @mickwrinkles2318

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Talynen Good idea with the LFA, one can only imagine how orgasmic it's superfast reving V10 can feel with a shifter like the Porsche Carrera GT had. The single clutch shift mechanism of the LFA might be a big hurdle.

  • @Roddy_Zeh

    @Roddy_Zeh

    11 ай бұрын

    @@mickwrinkles2318​ @Talynen It certainly helps when an existing car already had a manual version, be it using the same engine or even a less powerful one. I think the LFA could be a bit more difficult because of the electronics, but above all else, the fact there are no similar cars made by Toyota/Lexus from which they could adapt the transmission. From what I was researching about it, it's an automated manual transaxle, albeit a sequential system. In theory, perhaps you could somehow convert it to fully manual operation, though that would require adapting a new pedal box for the clutch pedal along with the rest of the necessary systems. I don't know if the sequential system would remain in first place, but having the ability to manually shift would already be great.

  • @verdict1163

    @verdict1163

    11 ай бұрын

    Mercedes should be auto.

  • @Petrospect
    @Petrospect11 ай бұрын

    Loved the inside look into how the F1 'box actuates, explains how flawed it feels and how much of a flappy paddle head you'd have to have to order an F1 car when you had the manual option. I'm currently having the "shift to third" problem in my E36 with worn out bushings which is unacceptable to me there, let alone a 360! Driving the finished product would probably make the word special an understatement. Also, *IS THAT A 1/350 COMPETITION YELLOW MICA FD??????* Wonderful

  • @_que

    @_que

    11 ай бұрын

    Noticed the fine Yellow FD in the back as well...

  • @elliottgalyn4037
    @elliottgalyn403711 ай бұрын

    Fantastic explanation. Metha is quite the mad scientist!!!

  • @AtypicalDriver
    @AtypicalDriver11 ай бұрын

    Is an epic mustache a job requirement at ISSIMI? You guys are freakin' awesome. keep the videos coming!

  • @Imdeadlydan
    @Imdeadlydan11 ай бұрын

    The video i didnt know i needed, ...but omg yes, please give us more of this stuff. Well made, yeah a little dark in some shots, but that made me sit forward and pay attention more, rewatched a couple of times already even lol, it felt very much a natural flow though, really awesome vid, loved every second, and im sure, will likely watch a few more times. Ferrari`s system is interesting AF, im a paddleshift guy, yes im guilty, but showing its still a manual underneath some systems, not torque convertor, awesome, and where the shifter SHOULD sit between gears in a manual, awesome, that all just touched my engineering G-spots and driving soul. Some paddleshift (perhaps many/most?) have flaws or drawbacks for some drivers, flaws that may not fit with what they want from the experience of driving, i totally get that, i was once there too, and with systems like this one that can destroy themself in a way that requires a mortgage to repair, this is an interesting and cool mod, how many owners ever drive them at race speeds and could benefit from paddleshift, even a dual clutch ?. We have cars that are SO fast now, even basic sedans are quick to 20 yrs ago (not to mention electric), but the roads havent kept up, nor the laws, so slowing down things, including the shifts, chills us out a bit more, making things a little more deliberate and back to basics to enjoy what driving is to us, ...more than just getting us to another location (thats the role of electric 😝). Many thanks all, Dan.

  • @yonypanofsky2763
    @yonypanofsky276311 ай бұрын

    I AM OBSESSED WITH THESE VIDEOS...LIKE REALLY

  • @mrmonday42
    @mrmonday4210 ай бұрын

    This was soo good. More of this!

  • @stuffhappens5681
    @stuffhappens568111 ай бұрын

    The issue with manual swaps is the flywheel. The F1 transmission is mated to a flyweight flywheel. The comparatively slower shifting manual requires a heavier flywheel so revs don’t plummet uncomfortably between shifts. They try to compensate with a rev pause feature via the engine’s ECU. But it’s not the same as if the drivetrain was designed for a manual from the start. Ferrari are idiots for abandoning manuals.

  • @CarPlebs
    @CarPlebs10 ай бұрын

    Mega episode keep it comin!

  • @veilstylez
    @veilstylez10 ай бұрын

    Manual CS I love these conversions! Great video. I had the same problems with my EAG kit. You guys should which to the DrS kit which is 1:1 oem spec. Like mentioned in the video this kit is an aftermarket kit and well.... you get aftermarket headaches. Cant wait to see more

  • @760zno
    @760zno3 ай бұрын

    very interesting, thanks

  • @GM-kj6sb
    @GM-kj6sb11 ай бұрын

    You would think Ferrari would notice how many manual conversions are being done to their older cars and offer a new manual car of their own.

  • @stevejohnson2108

    @stevejohnson2108

    11 ай бұрын

    They don't care. They sell every car they make and then some. But I agree with you, it would be epic.

  • @GM-kj6sb

    @GM-kj6sb

    11 ай бұрын

    @@stevejohnson2108 it’s sad they don’t!

  • @none3763
    @none376311 ай бұрын

    F1 box notoriously bad. In the UK prices of F355's started to skyrocket as soon as a manual conversion appeared. Great Vid. More like this please.

  • @vex123
    @vex12313 күн бұрын

    Great video! I really want to see how the gear lever box activates the selector / forks. Another question: how does the automatic gearbox shift without a clutch??

  • @shingoose6197
    @shingoose619711 ай бұрын

    So Paolo isn't a dog 🗿

  • @6rimR3ap3r
    @6rimR3ap3r11 ай бұрын

    It's a weird period in time when these single-clutch automated manuals were all the hype. Now almost every car that had these would be better with a different gearbox. And it's not only the shift action alone: we have an Opel with Easytronic and compared to a VW DSG the clutch operation is much worse. It can stall during parking, sometimes it engages abruptly, sometimes it slips... just pretty inconsistent at low speeds. Once you are at normal speed (nothing sporty, it's just an economy car) it gets better, but I still prefer modern torque converter automatics.

  • @MichaelHK
    @MichaelHK11 ай бұрын

    I'm assuming this was an EAG kit that you began with? It looks like a billet tower, instead of cast like OEM/Dr. S.

  • @jebidiahcarlyon3543
    @jebidiahcarlyon354311 ай бұрын

    This was excellent. Please sir, may I have some more?

  • @dailydriven991
    @dailydriven99111 ай бұрын

    That is one epic stache

  • @Eidrian111
    @Eidrian11111 ай бұрын

    Doing Gods work

  • @MachineGunMike
    @MachineGunMike11 ай бұрын

    I’m getting more and more pushed to do this conversion in my CS. Ugh……

  • @Andrew-vx2ls
    @Andrew-vx2ls11 ай бұрын

    Sounds a good idea. Personally I would also like to see a firm improving modern dashboards by removing the clunky "microwave oven" gps units.

  • @VincentLaFamilia
    @VincentLaFamilia10 ай бұрын

    Since you make such awesome videos i think you should make a video of the Legendary Mercedes G65. Keep up the awesome videos and thanks for your content!

  • @Druezy
    @Druezy11 ай бұрын

    Sam from STG needs to see this!

  • @TDRE88
    @TDRE8811 ай бұрын

    Is this eag kit, dr.s kit or did you guys source the parts from Ferrari yourself

  • @Snarge22
    @Snarge2210 ай бұрын

    Is the pinion gear and the shaft it is located on all one unit? Or can the pinion (and ring gear) be changed to produce a different final drive ratio?

  • @New_Jax_City
    @New_Jax_City11 ай бұрын

    So is this an EAG KIT?? Or did they take apart a factory manual 360? And use the parts?

  • @AleksandrHalas
    @AleksandrHalas11 ай бұрын

    Excellent!!! WHERE IS CEO LUCA???

  • @kaj750
    @kaj7508 ай бұрын

    I had the MT Version of an Aston Martin Vantage. It's paddle-shift version was also a MT with a clutch and hydraulic actuator system. It eats clutches, so I stayed away from those cars. It's the reason I don't own a 360 now (no, I can't afford a MT version lol). Does the 430 have a better transmission?

  • @hypocycloidiaspora
    @hypocycloidiaspora11 ай бұрын

    It is great to see the manual transmissions being retrofitted, if that's even the right word, into cars that never had them. There are so many good ones that have already begun, like E46 M3 CSL manual conversions; I look forward to seeing more manual upgrades in the future, to cars like the LFA. As valuable as these rare cars are with their flappy paddles, they will increase in value if the manual swap is executed to an OEM standard.

  • @SmallBlogV8

    @SmallBlogV8

    11 ай бұрын

    I don't think making a limited-run car less original makes its value go up, even if the driving experience is better because of it. That doesn't seem to be the way most collectors think.

  • @_que

    @_que

    11 ай бұрын

    Would love to see a LFA manual conversion. Heard they are starting to have oil pump issued that are well in the 6 figure territory...

  • @grievuspwn4g3

    @grievuspwn4g3

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@SmallBlogV8depends. Manual vanquishes are the same or better, for example.

  • @82raptor
    @82raptor10 ай бұрын

    Save the manuals!

  • @stevejohnson2108
    @stevejohnson210811 ай бұрын

    Any thoughts on how much weight is saved by converting to a manual if any?

  • @matsinkal

    @matsinkal

    11 ай бұрын

    Not many if any

  • @guygittins6934
    @guygittins693411 ай бұрын

    I would love a manual conversion for my 360 Challenge race car. Can we buy the parts and have them shipped to the UK? Thank you! 🙏🙏

  • @ISSIMIOfficial

    @ISSIMIOfficial

    11 ай бұрын

    Email Service@issimi.com and we would be happy to assist you!

  • @farishanafiah8461
    @farishanafiah846111 ай бұрын

    The gearbox it should have as standard. The F1 gearbox should be an option.

  • @MT-xy7fw
    @MT-xy7fw10 ай бұрын

    can you do the s2000 please?

  • @tam340r5
    @tam340r511 ай бұрын

    May we have an idea bout the cost ¿

  • @franzapp

    @franzapp

    10 ай бұрын

    Roughly 30k for the parts, depending on what exactly you order, and about another 30k in labor, also depending on what condition the car is in and if you choose to change things like the clutch and flywheel

  • @SpartanDara
    @SpartanDara11 ай бұрын

    2 mid roll ads in the first 5 minutes is crazy.

  • @michaelteret4763
    @michaelteret476311 ай бұрын

    Where’s DTS? He needs more air time.

  • @christophermeixell4978
    @christophermeixell497811 ай бұрын

    background music is too loud imo

  • @OpenBarGarage
    @OpenBarGarage11 ай бұрын

    I always imagined Paulo as short old balding fat Italian guy 😮

  • @jsap13
    @jsap1311 ай бұрын

    Just a little criticism....the background music is way too loud and distracting.

  • @garretthinrichs4013
    @garretthinrichs401311 ай бұрын

    Dude looks like Trevor from GTA 5

  • @joeleonard9965
    @joeleonard996511 ай бұрын

    I spy an RX-7 🧐

  • @SEforever
    @SEforever9 ай бұрын

    Ferrari ❤

  • @carroesdodudu
    @carroesdodudu11 ай бұрын

    🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷

  • @lumpas9727

    @lumpas9727

    11 ай бұрын

    Isso aí! 🇧🇷🇧🇷

  • @christschool
    @christschool11 ай бұрын

    I had my F430 converted to manual, but the Challenge Stradale is a collector level car and its market value is so high, I would never change it from an OEM. It destroys all that value in the market.

  • @future62

    @future62

    11 ай бұрын

    The changes aren't permanent. You can change it back. I'd wager the conversion would increase the value too.

  • @LettoOG

    @LettoOG

    11 ай бұрын

    @@future62Plus, it's a machine meant to be enjoyed. If a manual is more pleasant to you, resale be damned.

  • @Sol-hd7pz

    @Sol-hd7pz

    11 ай бұрын

    I'd reckon ole sir that its likely more important just what parts were used for the conversion. I dont see the price destroying the value of the market as long as its OEM Ferrari F1 gear box -> Ferrari gated 6 speed. Plus retain the OEM gearbox for the next owner if ever selling. You have an ultimate car at that point so I'd advise not to sell, so essentially the 360 Stradale 6-speeds are reducing the ones on the market, increasing value!

  • @sarahdell4042

    @sarahdell4042

    11 ай бұрын

    More than likely it will increase value. But who cares, it’s meant to be enjoyed not view it as an appreciating asset

  • @surreallife777
    @surreallife7777 ай бұрын

    How much was the total cost? There are a group of shops out there who all charge $35,000 to convert a Ferrari to manual transmission, which you a huge scam. You would have to be a complete idiot to spend $35,000 per set of pedals and a shifter. I know someone who converted his 355 Ferrari to manual transmission for under $4000 and he did it over the weekend. Why are all these shops consistently charging the same price of $35,000 and not $30,000 or $25,000. Sounds very fishy to me.

  • @7sq
    @7sq10 ай бұрын

    Bad "music" makes bad video (no music ) !

  • @BubuBarong
    @BubuBarong11 ай бұрын

    It's not "360 CS", it's just "CS". Cheers from Italy!

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