Discussion of House of Chains (Malazan book 4) with A.P. Canavan (spoiler free)

A spoiler free discussion of House of Chains, book four of The Malazan Book of the Fallen. Possible spoilers for books 1-3. The spoiler discussion of House of Chains will appear on A.P. Canavan's channel, ‪@ACriticalDragon‬!

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  • @ACriticalDragon
    @ACriticalDragon3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Philip, it is always a genuine pleasure to discuss these books with you. Thanks again for organising these discussions.

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    If it weren’t for you, A.P., I’d be talking to an iPhone about each of these books, and though I would’ve done my best, it wouldn’t have been even half as interesting. It’s an honor and a pleasure for me to be part of this.

  • @ACriticalDragon

    @ACriticalDragon

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy So you swapped an IP (i-Phone) for an AP??? Are we now saying that I am basically a phone app??? :) :) :)

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ACriticalDragon Well, you should be an app. Anytime someone feels like having a dose of critical analysis, they could click on their Critical Dragon app. AP the app! 😁

  • @Paul_van_Doleweerd

    @Paul_van_Doleweerd

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Yes, but you wouldn't be as well lit. 😁

  • @brettmurray2473
    @brettmurray24733 жыл бұрын

    AP has finally ascended to jackethood!! Congrats AP 😂

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    🤣🤣🤣 He has indeed - The gods had best beware!

  • @djsuth7727

    @djsuth7727

    3 жыл бұрын

    High House Jacket ... Philip is the King and AP the Knight Tailor.

  • @JohanHerrenberg

    @JohanHerrenberg

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@djsuth7727 Witness!

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@djsuth7727 Ah, a new House! Will the Master of the Deck sanction it, or will we be playing outside the rules?

  • @djsuth7727

    @djsuth7727

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy The floating table with an image of your face on the underside suggests High House Jacket is already in play ....

  • @adsm6464
    @adsm64643 жыл бұрын

    How to make a spoiler-free discussion interesting 101. Great discussion, peerless breakdowns as always.

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's definitely a challenge to make a spoiler-free discussion interesting, so we appreciate your comment very much. Thank you for watching!

  • @CatastrophicDisease
    @CatastrophicDisease3 жыл бұрын

    I loved the “show, don’t tell” discussion regarding compassion; not saying “compassion is good,” but rather showing what happens in a world lacking compassion, and in that way proving why it is so vital. In that way, I find the Malazan books are moral without being preachy. There are only three other books I’ve read that are able to send a moral message in such a powerful “show, don’t tell” way: East of Eden, The Brothers Karamazov, and Crime and Punishment. I’m only halfway through Malazan but I can already say that, for me, it belongs in that category.

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well said! Erikson does a brilliant job of “showing” compassion, not “telling” it, and his message is all the more powerful for it.

  • @valkyriesjudgement
    @valkyriesjudgement3 жыл бұрын

    You both raise very interesting points here. Books that make a reader question their own world view is the highest form of art. We, as readers, learn a lot about ourselves as we evaluate characters and watch how they interact with the world around them. We learn how we want to “be” and how we don’t want to “be” in our own world around us. In other words, we learn compassion. Thank you both for diving below the surface of the novels to highlight this aspect. When people only read at the surface level, I fear they miss out on this and don’t get the opportunity to grow and learn beyond their own very limited and narrow view of not only themselves, but of those in the world around them.

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Beautifully said! I agree that literature is a fantastic way to learn the perspectives of others and build empathy. Books can carry us on far journeys and allow us to witness so many lives. Thanks for watching, Valorie!

  • @NiflrogsFolly
    @NiflrogsFolly3 жыл бұрын

    It's been a good Monday. New videos by A critical dragon AND Philip+AP. Cheers! :)

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good times ahead, my friend!

  • @jameswashington226
    @jameswashington2263 жыл бұрын

    I’m on this book right now I’m liking how it’s putting together parts from the past books and explaining some stuff!!!

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes! House of Chains is definitely a step along the way where some things get a bit clearer, such as the magic. Of course, there are so many more things to discover in the next books. Happy reading!

  • @Johanna_reads
    @Johanna_reads3 жыл бұрын

    It's always a pleasure to watch you two discuss Malazan! I loved that you two brought up the archeological parts of House of Chains, and I didn't know there was a duo based on real life. I haven't read the essay you two discussed regarding the character that shall not be named in this video. I thought I had heard it was spoilers for the series, so I wasn't sure if I should look it up. I did hear Steven Erikson discuss his response to cultural relativism in this book and not rationalizing heinous acts. Looking forward to watching the spoiler-discussion!

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Johanna! It's always fun and enlightening to chat with A.P. I need to read that essay myself. The cultural/moral relativism issue is one that deserves a lot of discussion and thought -- not something with an easy, obvious answer (at least for me), but I like Erikson's stance on it.

  • @harryjeffs1571
    @harryjeffs15713 жыл бұрын

    My first introduction to Malazan was when I picked up the Forge of Darkness in a shop because it had a nice cover. I then found out it was a prequel trilogy to a 10 book epic fantasy series but thought I would read this one and see how I liked it. I read a few hundred pages and there was one scene where the dialogue was so good I had to stop reading because I didn't want to spoil myself on this epic series. I thought "If I can be so gripped by two people having a late supper chat when I have no idea what is going on then I need to read all the 10 books first to fully appreciate this book". That was in May last year and I'm now on Dust of Dreams. The discussions A P and you are having have been really great refreshers on what happen in these books as well as enriching the experience that I've had with the series. I also think they will be great to share with my brother as he has just finished Gardens of the moon. Thank you for the great videos!

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much! Having read Forge of Darkness and Fall of Light, which I love, I can’t imagine reading them before reading The Malazan Book of the Fallen, even though they happen so much earlier. Having said that , I’ll add that, in addition to impressing me for their own stories, they really helped me to understand and appreciate The Malazan Book of the Fallen. I’m glad you’re getting some value from our discussions, and I hope your brother will too if he watches!

  • @CounsellorofMoonsSpawn
    @CounsellorofMoonsSpawn3 жыл бұрын

    Iskar is the enthusiastic listener and Philip is the thoughtful listener in Malazan collabs. It must be the jacket xD I just had to think that it's been helping me to know that Karsa goes through a big character development when I read his story the first time.

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ha ha! Thank you! It’s fun to be the listener sometimes, especially when the other person is saying insightful things. The jacket definitely helps me to look more thoughtful, though. Thanks for watching!

  • @darkportents9835
    @darkportents98353 жыл бұрын

    oh no it finally happened! You're ahead of me by more than an entire book. I'll come back to this and the spoiler discussion in 15 weeks when I get here.

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    We’ll be waiting here for you!

  • @EricMcLuen
    @EricMcLuen3 жыл бұрын

    You did touch on a point when people are told it is work to read these books. Reading is the easy part. Thinking about what you have read is for some work, I find it fun. As for authors who make their intent known and having to read from that perspective for me takes away part of the fun. For example I think Pullman got in his own way later in the series. Kind of makes killing off the author, that AP did elsewhere, impossible.

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    I suppose there’s an art to an author analyzing their own books that each author must figure out. Fans want to know an author’s thoughts, but saying too much could discourage speculation. It’s interesting to think of it from the author’s perspective.

  • @goober23191
    @goober231913 жыл бұрын

    Thank you both for this wonderful video! It's a shining light in a week of murk for Malaztube. As always, your conversations are full of insight, candor, and good humour. Keep it up fellas!

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! We hope to continue putting out discussions and keep things positive. We appreciate you watching and commenting!

  • @tuffguy0134
    @tuffguy0134 Жыл бұрын

    I'm about to start House of Chains. I appreciate the talks you and A.P. have for these books. This series is quickly becoming my favorite series. Thank you so very much for all the Malazan content. P.S. - When I finish House of Chains, I will definitely be going to the spoiler video.

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m glad you’re enjoying the series and that the videos are helpful!

  • @evanbode4660
    @evanbode46603 жыл бұрын

    Love these videos, they are very helpful while I’m reading through the books. I’m about a third of the way through House of Chains and I’m loving it

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm so glad you find our discussions helpful -- it really helps us to hear that, so thank you!

  • @evanbode4660

    @evanbode4660

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy I always enjoy listening to your thoughts and opinions on books, no matter which book it is! Hopefully I can keep up with you guys so I can continue to listen in and finish the 10 main books by the end of the year

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@evanbode4660 Best wishes with the reading!

  • @maximiliangerboc
    @maximiliangerboc3 жыл бұрын

    It was taking me soooo long to get through this book (not because I didn't like it - just a bit of a slump). Then I saw you post this video and it inspired me to finish it off last night so I could watch it! Thanks for the motivation and I love these videos!

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Aww, thanks, Maximilian! I’m glad our discussion was motivating for you, and I appreciate the comment very much!

  • @mark-shieldanvilsstudy3006
    @mark-shieldanvilsstudy30063 жыл бұрын

    I look forward to these videos each month. I’m currently on House of Chains and loving it.

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad you're enjoying our discussions! Best wishes with House of Chains -- it's another awesome read!

  • @mark-shieldanvilsstudy3006

    @mark-shieldanvilsstudy3006

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Thanks! I just finished Memories of Ice last week and what a masterpiece. I tried reading other books before going on to House of Chains but I just could not...

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mark-shieldanvilsstudy3006 I know that feeling!

  • @robpaul7544
    @robpaul75443 жыл бұрын

    Great talk, the jacket made all the difference 😂 One of the things Erikson highlights beautifully in the series is the difference between internal and external motivations and motivators. And how, yes some individuals can come to see abhorrent behavior as normal. Some grow beyond it, others embrace the darkness willingly or unwillingly. Can't wait for the spoiler talk, and all the other Malazan content you said is coming 🤓

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Rob! I knew A.P. was needing that jacket all along. I’m glad we got it sorted. Beautifully said about the internal and external motivations and motivators. We’ll keep the videos coming!

  • @thebluejay1593
    @thebluejay15933 жыл бұрын

    As always, enjoyed your conversation so much! Cant wait for the spoiler talk, House of Chains is definitely one of my favourites, although as Im reading on, it is starting to get increasingly difficult to rank the books. They re all so good.

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's the truth! Whenever someone asks me which book in the series is my favorite, I sit there for for a while with my mouth hanging open, struggling to answer. I usually name about four books in response. Thanks so much for watching!

  • @callum8755
    @callum87553 жыл бұрын

    Thanks again for this series Phillip! I look forward to every single Malazan discussion both here and on APs channel:) always a great discussion and I'm constantly amazed at how much can be discussed without spoiling a single thing!

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    The non-spoiler discussion is always a lot trickier to figure out, at least for me. We have to think ahead for it, whereas the spoiler discussion carries us along without much planning. Both are fun, though (for me, at least), and each serves a purpose. Thanks so much for watching and commenting!

  • @callum8755

    @callum8755

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Thank you for such consistent and interesting content ! Not an easy combination to find anywhere, I love that you guys have to stop yourselves talking for longer at times :) there's just so much to cover !

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@callum8755 That’s the truth!

  • @RoxanaMagdaD
    @RoxanaMagdaD3 жыл бұрын

    I've missed seeing you guys discuss a book! I love the warm, relaxed and jolly tone of the conversation, thanks so much for this! I'm very curious who the duo in the books is 😋 The discussion was great and very valuable, as usual, thank you both! P.S. - I am so happy to hear about the discussion with Ruthan Badd P.P.S. - I am even happier to see that the Sub Press GotM still has not left the screen area, and, even more, it has Deadpool next to it 😍

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Rox! It’s great to be back discussing the books we love! I drool over those Sub Press books every time I talk to A.P. Mind you, I don’t drool on them because he won’t let me near them! 😁

  • @RoxanaMagdaD

    @RoxanaMagdaD

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy hahaha Philip, always so nice! I think that if A.P. ever will let people in his house to show them those books, the books should be in some locked glass case or something even safer :P No that we'd steal, but, as you say, we might drool :)))

  • @djsuth7727
    @djsuth77273 жыл бұрын

    I came here, donned my jacket, sat down and listened avidly ... and left knowing how to craft flint-headed arrows. Thank you for another fun Malazan discussion ( plus more naughty boy references from AP .... Kallor will be pleased ! )

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Jacket-donning required to attend to this discussion! But you can take off the jacket while making your flint arrows if you must.

  • @crazy4cairns
    @crazy4cairns3 жыл бұрын

    Heading over to the spoiler talk. Love these talks. This has been my favorite book so far of the series, at least as a first time reader.

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome! I’m happy our discussions are enjoyable for you. House of Chains is not often cited as a favorite, at least in my experience, but I love it. The ending especially, with the meeting of sisters, is so masterfully written.

  • @crazy4cairns

    @crazy4cairns

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy maybe it's because the whole series is starting to click for me now? Again, first time reader so I'm sure things might change

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@crazy4cairns As long as you’re enjoying the series, I think it’s great!

  • @javadasadi7858
    @javadasadi78583 жыл бұрын

    awesome insights, you both certainly have a ph.d in awesomeness! not forget to mention that AP knows stuff!

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Javad! A.P. is a well of knowledge, and it’s also just fun to discuss books with him.

  • @AhmadHassan-eb2pl
    @AhmadHassan-eb2pl3 жыл бұрын

    Great video u guys are really good.

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! We’re having a lot of fun discussing the series!

  • @demidrek-heyward
    @demidrek-heyward Жыл бұрын

    the motif of chains throughout this book is so cool

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    Жыл бұрын

    And it's a motif that you'll find throughout the series too!

  • @TheLittleX
    @TheLittleX2 жыл бұрын

    What an interesting book. I could listen to the campfire conversations of the malazan army for days.... Spoiler The most interesting part for me was adjunct Tavore. She seems so different to Lorn from GotM. She is compassioned and emotional. But a the same time she is so much younger than Lorn was. And now she lost her sister and fatherfigure (Gamit). Maybe she is just on the crossroad to become the Empress tool with the drama shes going trough. Not to imagine what will happen if she ever finds out that she killed Felisin. And maybe that´s the usual way how a competent women or man descends from a strong leader to mindless Adjunct to the emperor/empress in the malazan army. I wonder what a person Lorn was in her early days....

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’m so glad you connected with Tavore, which really bodes well for your experience of the series later on. Like her soldiers, lot of readers aren’t sure what to think of her since she’s a bit of a mystery, but I agree with your take on her wholeheartedly. My best to you as you progress through the series!

  • @garethbundy
    @garethbundy Жыл бұрын

    I read a MBOTF book, then I come here and watch these videos. Just brilliant. I'm just about to start Midnight Tides and I've heard it's very different than what's come before...

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m glad you’re enjoying the books and the chats! Midnight Tides does indeed take you places you’ve not yet seen in the Malazan world. All the best, Gareth!

  • @velcrocee7886
    @velcrocee78863 жыл бұрын

    Now I can’t watch these most excellent videos because I’ve been outpaced in my reading. Very disappointing. Oh well I’ll be back to watch when I catch up. Thanks for the great content.

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    We’ll be waiting for you when you’re ready!

  • @MrHawkMan777
    @MrHawkMan7773 жыл бұрын

    I loved the archeology and history in deadhouse gates, it was why I loved mappo and Icarium. So the fact that this book goes further into this is really exciting

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    The layers of archeology and history are always lurking beneath the surface in Malazan, and I’m like you - I love that stuff! It’s one of the main reasons I enjoy fantasy.

  • @francoisbouchart4050
    @francoisbouchart40503 жыл бұрын

    Falling further and further behind... still enjoying MoI. These spoiler-free videos are such teasers for the your discussions on AP’s channel. Thanks 🙏.

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    We did throw out a few teasers there, didn't we? Spoiler free discussions are challenging to put together, whereas the spoiler filled ones almost create themselves along the way. Our discussions will always be waiting for when you're ready, Francois!

  • @jona2486
    @jona24863 жыл бұрын

    I know AP has already had a character based off of him in one of Erikson's novellas, but I would love to see you two as a duo in one of his forthcoming books. Also, thanks for making this video!

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ha ha! Thanks! As long as said duo wears appropriate jackets. I appreciate you watching and commenting very much!

  • @anti-socialbaldmage4144
    @anti-socialbaldmage41443 жыл бұрын

    Two intelligent guys discussing my favourite book series.... happy days...

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much! Glad you enjoy our chat!

  • @MatthewLikesToRead
    @MatthewLikesToRead3 жыл бұрын

    Just finished! Such a great book. Deadhouse Gates and House of Chains are my favorite so far.

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome! Congrats on finishing. It would seem you're a Seven Cities fan so far. No arguments from me since I love those books! I hope you'll enjoy Midnight Tides when you get to it.

  • @cynthiaholmes5124
    @cynthiaholmes51243 жыл бұрын

    I'm reading memories of ice right now and I'm loving it can't wait to read this book in August 😊🙂🌟

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’m delighted to hear you’re enjoying Memories of Ice, Cynthia. I think it’s amazing, and Erikson continues to deliver!

  • @cabiel
    @cabiel3 жыл бұрын

    I am only thru MoI at this point, but I like that MBotF can be enjoyed from both a critical analysis and also from just an awesome story. I read all sorts of books and I enjoy my light pulpy Drizzt books for what they are. I did a hybrid of audio/print for the first 3, but after listening to SE talk about slowing down the reader for these books, I may do HoC by print only. I am champing at the bit to get started...but want to throw in Fafhrd and Gray Mouser before. I've heard the philosophical criticisms of Goodkind, but have only read the first novel. I am curious to see how objectivism comes across in narrative, although I don't particularly agree in it (my background is in psychology). Great discussion and it only makes me want to speed thru Leiber so I can get back to Erickson.

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’ve never listened to audiobooks, but I don’t think I have the necessary focus to use them for Malazan. Perhaps after I’ve read them three or four times? Best wishes with all that reading!

  • @zahven
    @zahven3 жыл бұрын

    Now just eagerly waiting for the spoiler discussion

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Should be out soon! I suspect tomorrow, but A.P. could always surprise me. Thanks for watching!

  • @zahven

    @zahven

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy thanks so much for doing these discussions. I didn’t really get heavily into reading until like 2 years ago, and Malazan was really my first big fantasy commitment. I’ve completely fallen in love with the series but I must admit there’s a lot of stuff that goes over my head, so these videos help a lot. I’m on book 6 but I already want to start rereading it lol

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@zahven I’m so glad our discussions have been helpful to you!

  • @jagarrthecommenter7057
    @jagarrthecommenter70573 жыл бұрын

    I'm slowly catching up - I think I'll finish MOI by the end of this weekend and then I'm hell-bent on knocking out HOC before you release your videos on Midnight Tides. At this rate, I think I'll be caught up by *checks calculations* Dust of Dreams. As always a lovely video.

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome! A veteran like you could swoop in anytime, of course, but it’s great to think that you’re reading along with us.

  • @seanhalpin87
    @seanhalpin87 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks professor fireballs, you're picking up my malazan fix where iskaar jarak abandoned all of us, if only you did chapter by chapter stuff. I loved doing a chapter then watching his recap before moving on to get a refresh, as those chapters get to be super massive (see the final chapter of memories of ice, took me almost 2 hours to read haha) and i need a day or two until I can read the next one. If you wanna do chapter by chapter for the whole series, from memories of on, I'd be forever grateful

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Sean! I don't think a chapter by chapter recap is in the cards, at least not from the two of us, but you never know. In the meantime, I'm glad these discussions are helpful. Cheers, buddy!

  • @seanhalpin87

    @seanhalpin87

    Жыл бұрын

    @@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy I miss iskaar. I hope he's okay

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    Жыл бұрын

    @@seanhalpin87 Same here. It’s been a long time since I heard from him. He’s a genuinely kind person.

  • @Leroy510
    @Leroy5102 жыл бұрын

    Hi Philip! Just finished House of Chains, after having to take a small break from the emotional onslaught of Memories of Ice. LOL. I absolutely loved HoC and it’s my favorite of the 4 novels I’ve read so far. Book 1 of HoC was particularly enjoyable for me, and I’m wondering if you could recommend some of these other works you reference (in addition to the Conan books you mentioned), that are similar in style, and possibly served as inspiration for this part of the HoC. Would love to read and explore some of these pulp stories before diving back into Malazan and tackling Midnight Tides.

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hello, Leroy! You're in a distinguished minority of Malazan fans who pick House of Chains as a favorite among the ten books. I think it's an amazing read too. As for similar books besides Conan, I'm pretty A.P. would know more titles than I do, particularly among the older pulp fantasy. A Princess of Mars by Edgar Rice Burroughs is often cited as one. Slightly more modern might be something like Legend by David Gemmell. And among modern fantasy, there's Joe Abercrombie's First Law books and Mark Lawrence's Broken Empire and Red Queen's War books. I haven't read much of the pulp stuff since I came into fantasy more via the Tolkien route, but I wish you the best in finding more similar reading!

  • @Leroy510

    @Leroy510

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy thanks Philip! Will check out these titles, and will ask A.P. about some of the older pulp fantasy as well!

  • @shmuelshtessman4906
    @shmuelshtessman49063 жыл бұрын

    As always great conversation and now I need to wait for the more detailed one with the spoilers. Just a question I want to raise for the last part you both talked about getting out of your culture when you meet a difrent culture and to be able to recognize the wrong in your culture but at the end of the day identify something as good or bad is anchored in the way you were raised and the culture you came from. A lot of historical figures and catalyst figures during history are praised just for their ability to recognize something and change the culture and history with it. But as we all know the winners write history so how can you say something is really right or wrong?

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    That’s an excellent question! Strip away all the culture and the socialization, and what are you left with in terms of a basis for morality? Many people would turn to belief in some higher power (God) to answer this question. I’m afraid I don’t have a satisfactory answer except that I find life more meaningful and fulfilling when I behave in a manner that is moral. Not the best answer, but that’s what I’ve got right now.

  • @shmuelshtessman4906

    @shmuelshtessman4906

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy so as a Jew I find the need to believe in higher party as part of my culture and while some of the Jewish laws where moral some of them from our time PoV do look amoral (like animal sacrifice for example) but then again moral can change again and in a few yrs suddenly things are different again

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@shmuelshtessman4906 Very true! Morals change according to time and culture. Do all morals change? Some seem pretty universal, like don’t murder. But even there things can be nuanced since some cultures have preached that murder is fine under certain circumstances.

  • @shmuelshtessman4906

    @shmuelshtessman4906

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy and then again if murder is so bad and we all acknowledge that why there are still wars? Isn't that murders just on a bigger scale? As you said in certain circumstances most things are ok. And even values like compassion can be abuse for bad things is that make it amoral or is the circumstances are what make it bad or wrong. Anyway at the end of the day we all need to find in ourselves the right values that worth pursuing and try to make the world better but knowing that we may be mistaken or misunderstood

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@shmuelshtessman4906 Exactly right!

  • @albertstebbins7590
    @albertstebbins75903 жыл бұрын

    Adding this for the youtube overlords - will return at the pace of Mikes Book Reviews readalong

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome! We’ll be waiting for you!

  • @thatsci-firogue
    @thatsci-firogue3 жыл бұрын

    Erikson continues to amaze me, I enjoyed Gardens of the Moon but Deadhouse Gates onwards I'm falling in love with this series. Of the two major storylines so far I do slightly prefer Seven Cities but only slightly. Can't wait for Midnight Tides. I'd go as far to say House of Chains is my favourite in the series so far, probably.

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s fantastic to hear how the series has grabbed you! This reread has been magical for me, and I’m happy whenever I see anyone connecting with Malazan in a similar way. Midnight Tides introduces my favorite Malazan character, by the way!

  • @thatsci-firogue

    @thatsci-firogue

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy that's amazing, can't wait to meet this character

  • @JohanHerrenberg
    @JohanHerrenberg3 жыл бұрын

    Another entertaining discussion. MalazTubers are picking themselves up and marching onwards, like the dogged Bridgeburners and Bonehunters they are.... Btw, I have only 350 pages to go in 'The Crippled God', so I have been forging ahead, too. What a journey!

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    I love it!! Even Raraku won’t defeat us as we march onward. Congratulations, Johan, as you near the completion of this magnificent series!!!

  • @CounsellorofMoonsSpawn

    @CounsellorofMoonsSpawn

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Johan, because I see you here: I got a notification that you commented on one of my videos but YT doesn't want to show me the comment...sorry that I couldn't reply!

  • @JohanHerrenberg

    @JohanHerrenberg

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@CounsellorofMoonsSpawn Hello, Counsellor. I know the video you are referring to... I deleted the comment, not a thing I often do, so YT cannot show it. After posting it and reading it back, I realized it was too negative about a certain aspect of MBotF, born out of a momentary frustration with TcG, and didn't accurately represent my overall feelings about the series. So I deleted it.

  • @CounsellorofMoonsSpawn

    @CounsellorofMoonsSpawn

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@JohanHerrenberg Ah ok, thanks for the info! YT has been eating comments on my videos in the past and it bugs me when I can't reply after somebody took time out of their day to comment...

  • @JohanHerrenberg

    @JohanHerrenberg

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@CounsellorofMoonsSpawn I can well understand your frustration! Good luck with your great channel and the comments! I have all but finished the series, so your more spoilery stuff will soon become available to me...

  • @demidrek-heyward
    @demidrek-heyward Жыл бұрын

    Is high house light or high house of darkness in need of a leper? I could fill that role admirably. Or is it just the House of Chains that has a leper (though, Karsa may or not have ended him).

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    Жыл бұрын

    Sorry! It’s just the House of Chains that features that particular role. If all the other Houses had lepers too, things would fall apart. Piece by piece.

  • @demidrek-heyward

    @demidrek-heyward

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy fair enough. It's a lifetime of servitude to the crippled god for me then.

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    Жыл бұрын

    @@demidrek-heyward Best wishes with it! I hear he gives his employees a decent dental plan.

  • @irinaj8716
    @irinaj87162 жыл бұрын

    I have 200 pages left of the book and after MOI I am so scared of that impending convergence 🥲 but I am also entirely addicted to this series now, so I guess pain is part of me now.

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’m afraid so! Those huge convergences do have a tendency to inflict casualties, don’t they? Like you, though, I find myself unable to put the books down. I can’t say “happy reading,” per se, but I wish you a beautiful reading experience!

  • @irinaj8716

    @irinaj8716

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Oh, wasn’t it just! Finished it last night and while it wasn’t as traumatising as MOI, it was certainly tragic. But also very beautiful. There was that line at the very end: “The heart is neither given nor stolen. The heart surrenders” - just one example of the many beautiful lines and ideas in this book.

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@irinaj8716 Yes, that’s true - so many beautiful lines. That’s another reason it takes me so long to read a Malazan book: I’m always lingering over the sentences that catch my fancy! I’m so glad you enjoyed it.

  • @sethulakovic3722
    @sethulakovic37223 жыл бұрын

    I am here for the formal wear arms race. The first one to monocle and cravat wins. 😁

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    How about a sweater vest inside a tweed jacket?

  • @sethulakovic3722

    @sethulakovic3722

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Great video Philip. AP is really good at getting you on the hook for the spoiler video. Can't wait for the continued discussion and the Ruthan Badd video. Have a great night.

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sethulakovic3722 Thanks, Seth! Yes, teasing for the spoiler video is a bit of an art. I’m really looking forward to chatting with A.P. and Ruthan Badd!

  • @WildWolfGod
    @WildWolfGod3 жыл бұрын

    Came here to WITNESS this chat.

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome! Karsa would be proud. And thanks!

  • @WildWolfGod

    @WildWolfGod

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Absolutely! Fantastic video!

  • @zan8152
    @zan81523 жыл бұрын

    Hah, speaking of subverting expectations - and I'd bet you touch on this in spoilers - but boy does the finale subvert what you've since come to expect from these books. Erickson subverting himself subverting other fantasy XD

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Perhaps you were using a Deck of Dragons to predict our spoiler talk? The finale does indeed come up under those terms. Inception levels of subversion, here!

  • @billyalarie929
    @billyalarie9293 жыл бұрын

    Goodkind doesn’t deserve a mention in any respect whatsoever.

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Can’t say I’m a fan, but some people love Sword of Truth.

  • @markshadow9973
    @markshadow997311 ай бұрын

    In the audiobook series some genius decided to change narrators. Bad call. This ruined the series on that platform. One of the worst narrators ever. Must have found him in the unemployment line.

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