Discussing Vertigo with Elliot Coen! | House of 1000 Movies Podcast

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Today we talk with fellow physical media and film enthusiast Elliot Coen (@ElliotCoen) about one of his top 4 movies of all-time, Alfred Hitchcock's Vertigo!
In this episode, Elliot teaches me quite a bit about one of his favorite films, with some very interesting insights and analysis of Vertigo. We also talk about its surprisingly poor reception at release, the way the film was almost lost forever, the use of color to convey certain themes and feelings, and much, much more!
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  • @ElliotCoen
    @ElliotCoen2 ай бұрын

    Thanks so much for having me, Jeff! I enjoyed our conversation as always :)

  • @fmulder1989

    @fmulder1989

    2 ай бұрын

    Hello Elliot , funny subscribed to both. Keep up the great work !

  • @abriendo.COSILLAS
    @abriendo.COSILLAS2 ай бұрын

    The Best collaboration, its like the Deadpool and Wolverine of the physical media channels. Two of my favorite channels on collecting and movies.

  • @matthemming9105
    @matthemming91052 ай бұрын

    Aw sweet! Two cool, positive physical media heads that I love listening to, together at last!

  • @LLNYRN
    @LLNYRN2 ай бұрын

    HOLY S**T!!! Jeff and Elliot...TOGETHER???? MUST WATCH!

  • @ajtaylor8750
    @ajtaylor87502 ай бұрын

    Vertigo is a masterpiece on all fronts. Aside from North by Northwest and Rear Window, this is my favorite Hitchcock film.

  • @twcc406
    @twcc4062 ай бұрын

    Two of the best KZread channels, plus one of my favourite movies... a perfect combination.

  • @kyles7087
    @kyles70872 ай бұрын

    Fantastic to see you both together, always great to hear you get into the films in such detail. Elliot has a vast, deep, and extensive knowledge of films that blows my mind and when you tap into that it’s genuinely fire 🔥 btw Elliot, you have at least one Aussie sub 😉. Despite loving these films, I still need to pick them up in the new 4K restorations, so thanks for the motivation, although they are quite different from their original forms particularly colour wise. If you want to check out the 35mm versions, they are out there among the fans restoring cinema reels. The new restorations have a very different colour timing and have gone through changes and alterations, so it’s worth checking out if you’re a fan. Hitchcock is one of the greats, Rear Window is one of my favourite all time films. Outstanding podcast Jeff!!

  • @u77750
    @u777502 ай бұрын

    This was a great show by my two favorite hosts. First of all Jeff thanks for recommending Friends of Eddie Coyle. I enjoyed it very much. Elliot thanks for all your Criterion reviews. I appreciate your Noir picks. Detour, Kiss Me Deadly, etc.

  • @DaPunkNdFunk
    @DaPunkNdFunk2 ай бұрын

    So good to see you two together ❤️❤️

  • @u77750
    @u777502 ай бұрын

    This was a great discussion of the film. To me it was Hitchcock and his Stock Company at their peak. Burke, Herman, Bass, Edith Head and George Tommasini. It was shot in Vista-Visuon which many consider the best film format. San Francisco is essentially a member of the cast. It is was a perfect setting. Hitchcock did not like shooting on location. He preferred the studio. It was an incredible film from a master of cinema. Looking forward to more of these!

  • @johnscott4385
    @johnscott43852 ай бұрын

    The Hayes Code stated: “Crime and immorality could never be portrayed in a positive light. If someone performed an immoral act, they had to be punished on screen, resulting in numerous cases of Adaptational Karma.” Also, a criminal could not escape punishment by committing suicide. These and other Hayes Code rules required a great many changes to movies of the era before they were released. Jeff, this was a great collaboration with Elliot. I hope you do more. Very enjoyable.

  • @petecap4382
    @petecap43822 ай бұрын

    This is what 4K is all about 4 me that jaws & Psycho best done 4K movies I was shocked when I first played the movie

  • @garrettbays6942
    @garrettbays69422 ай бұрын

    Interesting and fascinating thing about Bernard Herrmann is that he also scored Brian De Palma's and Paul Schrader's take on Vertigo, Obsession (1976), which was his second-to-last film. Both his scores for Obsession and Taxi Driver were nominated for Academy Awards, but lost to Jerry Goldsmith for The Omen (1976). As to when and why Herrmann and Hitchcock parted ways, it actually during the making of Torn Curtain (1966). Hitchcock was feeling that Herrmann wasn't variating the sound in his music, and the studio was wanting a score that was promotable, and had a song attached to it (this was thanks to Henry Mancini, and the James Bond films that always had a song, and typically, a catchy score that was popular on record album). Herrmann had scored Joy in the Morning (1965), which did have a song, though not written by Herrmann, and he even willingly used the melody in his music quite often (something he reluctantly did with his score to Tender is the Night [1962], incorporating moments from the song, again, not written by him, into his music, but only minimally). However, his music had a lot of similarities to Marnie (1964), even using the same orchestra ensemble (strings, French horns, woodwinds, and harp), and Hitchcock noticed this, and wrote him about it when Herrmann was about to start work on the score for Torn Curtain. While Herrmann definitely gave Torn Curtain a unique sound in the score, with an edgier tone than what John Addison would later provide, and probably would have helped the film be a little better, Hitchcock was not happy, and granted, Herrmann's music had no real romantic melody, even if you consider the music he wrote for the hill scene (the cellos are carrying the music, since there were no upper strings, and it sounds rather strained, almost hollow). In the end, Herrmann was fired, and the two never spoke again, though Herrmann did try to make amends when he recorded his 1968 album Music from the Great Movie Thrillers, which contained suites, and one cue (North by Northwest) from most of the films he scored for Hitchcock (The Wrong Man was the only one not presented), and wanted to present him with a personal copy. Unfortunately, the day he brought it, Hitchcock hid from him. I don't know if the album was even left for him. To add further insult to injury, I believe I read that when Hitchcock heard Ron Goodwin's new score for Frenzy (1972) (originally with a score, fully recorded even, by Henry Mancini, but was thrown out because Hitchcock felt it was too dark), he said that it was the best score to a film he directed; and this was published in an interview, and Herrmann read the statement, feeling very hurt. Herrmann always spoke highly of Hitchcock in interviews.

  • @shmackatrotsky5394
    @shmackatrotsky53942 ай бұрын

    i remember watching vertigo for the first time at around the age of 20. i had seen psycho, the birds, and north by northwest prior to that, and i wasnt a big hitchcock fan up to that point. but vertigo changed all that. the film absolutely blew me away. literal chills down the spine. a true watershed film.

  • @DBCooper31
    @DBCooper312 ай бұрын

    Great guest! Great episode!

  • @JonAyers-xf4cu
    @JonAyers-xf4cu2 ай бұрын

    Awesome! enjoying these longform/podcast videos!

  • @BeyondTheGraveMedia
    @BeyondTheGraveMedia2 ай бұрын

    Love this podcast!

  • @davidbrown1532
    @davidbrown15322 ай бұрын

    Vista Vision. Did you mention? This movie is one of the best ever made. The score is the real hero. Bernard Herman’s contribution is critical. Yes, Red wasn’t an accident. It ties up several themes that Jimmy Stewart was able to help reveal with his skill.

  • @lordsofkobol7385
    @lordsofkobol73852 ай бұрын

    Even the opening animation is amizing in Virtigo which I wasn't expecting when I watched for the 1st time last year.

  • @colinthedogfromspaced9365
    @colinthedogfromspaced93652 ай бұрын

    Two of the nicest soothing voices on youtube

  • @domdombear
    @domdombear2 ай бұрын

    What a combo, wasn't expecting to see you both in a vid :)

  • @jordancanahai6056
    @jordancanahai60562 ай бұрын

    This is one of my favorite movies ever but it is wild how Scottie acts in this movie. Imagine seeing a girl you like on the street who interests you, following her up to her apartment, knocking on her door, inviting yourself in and asking her out cuz she reminds you of another girl you loved lmao. Meanwhile a certified cutie like Midge just wanted him to take her out for beers and a movie. SMH

  • @Arya_Amir
    @Arya_Amir2 ай бұрын

    One of the best movies ever. Great discussion.

  • @petecap4382
    @petecap43822 ай бұрын

    I hoping they do the same for upcoming north by Northwest

  • @itsomv
    @itsomv2 ай бұрын

    I was surprised to learn that Kim Novak is still alive

  • @jestaib
    @jestaib2 ай бұрын

    This is currently on Prime

  • @itsomv
    @itsomv2 ай бұрын

    I just recently watched this on my journey of watching the Top 100 best movies of all time, I liked it a lot but I think it could have been a bit shorter.

  • @garrettbays6942
    @garrettbays69422 ай бұрын

    When you were looking up how you could stream Vertigo, and mentioned how it is not on Netflix, that is one of the main reasons I don't subscribe to Netflix streaming, though I do believe they were streaming My Fair Lady (1964). It's like they are incredibly selective about what older films they have on their platform.

  • @ShaMicKan
    @ShaMicKan2 ай бұрын

    It feels like a Mandela Effect is happening with the films' lead. In my 45 years of life I've only ever heard him referred to as Jimmy Stewart. I've seen his name come up a lot in the last year and he's been referred to as James in all those articles/videos.

  • @RkivUnderground
    @RkivUnderground2 ай бұрын

    Bernard Herrman didn't do the music for The Birds because that movie had no music, save for the nursery rhyme and the piano piece.

  • @garrettbays6942

    @garrettbays6942

    2 ай бұрын

    He was a sound consultant on the film. It's easy to miss his credit, because they put him under the electronic sound production credit which is quite long, and it didn't stay on screen very long; you'd be lucky if you read Remi Gassmann's name. Herrmann actually enjoyed working on that film.

  • @postmodernrecycler
    @postmodernrecycler2 ай бұрын

    Vertigo is even bigger than Hitchcock. He did something extra with this movie. It's literature of the cinema. Kim Novak emerging as Judy->Madeleine in the green light is 1000%.

  • @brunomachado7279

    @brunomachado7279

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes, it's different from everything he did. Deeper.

  • @moringaoleifera5003
    @moringaoleifera50032 ай бұрын

    ❤❤❤❤

  • @tae4177
    @tae41772 ай бұрын

    W

  • @hednik
    @hednik2 ай бұрын

    I just saw this movie 3 months ago and it wasn't my favorite. I really should give it a try again. I did watch at night so that might have tainted it

  • @MajorasThirdEye
    @MajorasThirdEye2 ай бұрын

    I thought bro was just you with glasses

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