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  • @masteroftheart5548
    @masteroftheart55483 жыл бұрын

    As any leftist can tell you one of the insults that stings the most is when another leftist calls you a liberal.

  • @anitaremenarova6662

    @anitaremenarova6662

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well the liberals in this game are actually the conservatives so it makes more sense with the added pedo insult.

  • @RCReilly
    @RCReilly3 жыл бұрын

    You keep talking about this "Harry" character and I have no idea who he is.... You must mean Detective Raphaël Ambrosius Costeau!

  • @The_Jovian

    @The_Jovian

    3 жыл бұрын

    You mean Tequila Sunset?

  • @velvetdivine6946

    @velvetdivine6946

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@The_Jovian I dunno who the fuck those are but The Officer really made the game for me.

  • @paulbarclay5487
    @paulbarclay54873 жыл бұрын

    [Somewhat Spoilers] I think the part of the game that really broke me was internalizing the "Wasteland of Reality" thought. Harry is a piece of trash and I wanted to approach the game as a growth experience for him. Get clean, solve the crime. But then getting sober actually reduces more stats than it raises and everyone in the game just keeps treating you like you're a burnout. If you bring up your sobriety, everyone either dismisses you or gently humors you. Just like they would in real life, because you've "been sober" for all of 36 hours but you've been a drunk for years. You've got to do it for you, because you want to be sober, because "this is how normal people are all the time."

  • @juanjuri6127

    @juanjuri6127

    3 жыл бұрын

    While this is mostly true, "Wasteland of Reality" is actually pretty good stats-wise. People tend to miss that the fact it gives you +1 PSY means it gives you +1 to all six of your PSY skills, so it cancels out the additional -1 you get to Suggestion and Inland Empire. Its net impact is -1 to Physical Instrument and +1 to four skills, plus the permanent loss of bonuses from alcohol (which is trivial if you've played it sober up to that point).

  • @FlauFly

    @FlauFly

    2 жыл бұрын

    I had Intellectual default playset and so I had 1 in PSY stat, which was very hard overall, but "Wasteland of Reality" raised overall PSY skills and their cap level, which was almost live-saving.

  • @jayl2493

    @jayl2493

    2 жыл бұрын

    Exactly how it is in real life. (Almost) Nobody congratulates you for being sober for 3 days, even if that's the longest you've been sober in years. They humor you at best, and belittle you at worst. This game would be nothing if it didn't feature both its fantastic surrealism /and/ its depression-inducing realism.

  • @jamesderiven1843

    @jamesderiven1843

    2 жыл бұрын

    As others have noted, Wasteland of Reality does not reduce more skills than it raises.

  • @josephmatthews7698

    @josephmatthews7698

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah but I'd only say that Harry is a normal human trying to achieve an idealized version we all present to the world.

  • @BlackReshiram
    @BlackReshiram3 жыл бұрын

    "God is dead and be taught him Solarbeam" I want that on a shirt

  • @SophiefromMars

    @SophiefromMars

    3 жыл бұрын

    More and more people are saying this..

  • @BlackReshiram

    @BlackReshiram

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SophiefromMars Well, get to the merch already!! /j

  • @ChoosenOneStudios

    @ChoosenOneStudios

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SophiefromMars i would legit be tempted and i never buy t-shirts.

  • @sydwys8

    @sydwys8

    3 жыл бұрын

    I legit had to pause the video and come down to the comments for this.

  • @ruki4929

    @ruki4929

    3 жыл бұрын

    I just don't know if it would be better with or without arceus.

  • @kevinwillems8720
    @kevinwillems87203 жыл бұрын

    "Friends don't let friends be scabs." Is also very merch worthy.

  • @jacobtierney4419
    @jacobtierney44192 жыл бұрын

    I had a big "fuck it, lets go" moment when I decided to hit Measurehead, less than 5% chance of success, and nailed him with a 12. I shouted out loud. So, so good.

  • @MK-vd7hu
    @MK-vd7hu3 жыл бұрын

    I loved the moment where you interrupt two guys playing a ball game in a crater, misinterpret the rules and, by SUCCEEDING at the very difficult skill check, launch a magnificent throw with beautiful form clean into the harbor because you thought it was a shotput contest. And then that prompts a side quest where you have to go find them a new ball to replace the one you flung into the sea. THAT is great writing. Even when you succeed beautifully, you’re still a complete f***up. Tone preserved, hilarious moment. Love it

  • @januszkurahenowski2860

    @januszkurahenowski2860

    Жыл бұрын

    When I succeeded at that check I was so proud of myself, I've seen him throw the ball very far and was sure that those guys are gonna be hella impressed. But it was an interesting experience, when you technically succeed at something that you wanted to do but that very thing was not good.

  • @SMATF5

    @SMATF5

    Жыл бұрын

    I liked that even though your physical skills are egging you on, your intellectual skills are beating you over the head with the fact that you don't know what you're doing and should just shut up and watch for a second.

  • @Mother_boards
    @Mother_boards3 жыл бұрын

    The moment the phasmid appeared for me, I was literally on the verge of tears, it was such a beautiful moment. I had spent so much time on a quest that I expected to lead anywhere but to this legendary cryptid, but then there it was, and it was so fucking moving and special to me.

  • @SophiefromMars

    @SophiefromMars

    3 жыл бұрын

    It really blew me away honestly

  • @Mimosalover69

    @Mimosalover69

    3 жыл бұрын

    Fucking same here! I have read about some people not liking that part, but I think it was the best moment in the game.

  • @Scribe

    @Scribe

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm really glad to see someone else talking about how emotional and moving that scene was. I was just stunned and misty-eyed, and I had no idea how to put to words why. Getting to have that moment feels like somebody going out of their way to do something nice for you just because. Like if you just wait it out, and push through occasionally being the butt of the joke or being let down, there's plenty of majesty in the world waiting to be discovered. It's a profound moment of earnestness, surprise, and joy in a game that can be crushingly bleak. What an outstanding moment, and to tie it - this seemingly nothing flight of fancy side quest - into the ending on top of all of that. Disco Elysium does payoff better than any video game I can think of. Thanks for reminding me of how special that scene is.

  • @PlanetaryPluto

    @PlanetaryPluto

    3 жыл бұрын

    Doing The Quest I Thought I Did Something Wrong Because I Didn't Find It And It Didn't Lead Anywhere. I Wanted To Look It Up But I Figured I'd Do It Next Play Through To Avoid Any Spoilers. Thank God I Didn't.

  • @kaleidoscopickait

    @kaleidoscopickait

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes!! Wholeheartedly agree! Though I was so mad cuz I failed the skill check to talk to it 😩 I’d never been so upset at failing a skill check before

  • @Houston1120
    @Houston11202 жыл бұрын

    Um, I don't know if somebody already told you, but you actually CAN make Kim wear the Pissf'**t jacket

  • @weatheranddarkness

    @weatheranddarkness

    9 ай бұрын

    stretch goal for my next playthrough!

  • @MarkvandenEnden
    @MarkvandenEnden3 жыл бұрын

    "god is dead, and we taught him solar beam" ..just great

  • @Hazel-cv5cj
    @Hazel-cv5cj3 жыл бұрын

    Oh god, I didn’t even know about half of these interactions. Seeing Harry say that to Kim breaks my heart. People of the world, be nice to Kim.

  • @John-uh1pb

    @John-uh1pb

    2 жыл бұрын

    There is only one roll that it is acceptable to save scum in DE & it's that one.

  • @brya9681

    @brya9681

    2 жыл бұрын

    I would die for Kim

  • @alentjanestetico3014

    @alentjanestetico3014

    Жыл бұрын

    A shame that one of the interactions is somewhat luck based (the level of bad luck needed depending on skill) even if we spend the entire game up to that point carefully choosing the dialogue. That's a check I'll always reroll.

  • @captjamestkirk

    @captjamestkirk

    Жыл бұрын

    Alternatively, if you fuck up one of your roles with Gary the Cryptofascist, you can ask him if he's wearing anal beads and Kim will very smugly tell you that you're not supposed to be able to hear them.

  • @genericname2747

    @genericname2747

    10 ай бұрын

    Is that a Cultist Simulator pfp

  • @juanjuri6127
    @juanjuri61273 жыл бұрын

    glad you're having a go at the Assigned Cop At Birth game

  • @mxpants4884

    @mxpants4884

    3 жыл бұрын

    This was my biggest struggle in giving this game a chance... I have to be a cop? I don't wanna be a cop.

  • @hopepunk6847

    @hopepunk6847

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thankfully, aside from being a HUGE COMMUNIST, that too is a sentiment your character may well, and with commitment, express. Gods keep you, Comrade Du Bois.

  • @capybaraRed

    @capybaraRed

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mxpants4884 well, several communist heroes were soldiers of the old regime in some capacity

  • @rylands4289

    @rylands4289

    3 жыл бұрын

    I love that thats ACAB the uh first letters

  • @quixotic7460

    @quixotic7460

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mxpants4884 Neither does Harry, really. and he can make that very obvious

  • @Goldenfur12698
    @Goldenfur126983 жыл бұрын

    i got by the racist at the gate by just waiting until i could find and pass the check at that shortcut by rené's guardpost! you dont have to be a racist or a superhero

  • @SophiefromMars

    @SophiefromMars

    3 жыл бұрын

    You're right, I realised this after the video was up and I was kicking myself over it

  • @blueelectric5691

    @blueelectric5691

    3 жыл бұрын

    Was thinking this too, you can also get in through Cuno's shack!

  • @mxpants4884

    @mxpants4884

    3 жыл бұрын

    I found this before I got to the racist. I wasn't liking the first character I rolled either and when I went the second time I came there at night.

  • @lilybain5132

    @lilybain5132

    3 жыл бұрын

    i jumped across the roof from Cuno's shack instead. It was a super cool find after having to become a racist the first time round.

  • @stefanb6539

    @stefanb6539

    3 жыл бұрын

    On my first save-scumming playthrough I climbed over Cuno's shack, talked to Evart, and then dropkicked Measurehead just for the fun of it!

  • @Tinyvalkyrie410
    @Tinyvalkyrie4103 жыл бұрын

    So many people have done essays on this that I can’t remember who said this, but in a TTRPG a good GM will make a critical failure as engaging as a critical success. This alone shows they understand what they are doing.

  • @PlasmidJunkie

    @PlasmidJunkie

    2 жыл бұрын

    It was SkillUp who said that

  • @slynchwa
    @slynchwa3 жыл бұрын

    My first death was 100% to an uncomfortable chair.

  • @SophiefromMars

    @SophiefromMars

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yessss

  • @lmj691

    @lmj691

    2 жыл бұрын

    My first “death” was crying because I lost my gun.

  • @heatth1474

    @heatth1474

    2 жыл бұрын

    My first (and somehow, only) death was a heart attack because I drunk and forgot to heal before the temporary endurance bonus went away.

  • @ananimal9779

    @ananimal9779

    2 жыл бұрын

    I had a heart attack getting my tie off the ceiling fan.

  • @Lazarusquixote

    @Lazarusquixote

    Жыл бұрын

    My first was putting a gun in my mouth to make a point.

  • @juanjuri6127
    @juanjuri61273 жыл бұрын

    Honestly I don't think I've ever cried so much at a piece of media as I did a couple of minutes into the stickbug encounter when I got the option to say "I'm glad to be me"

  • @gustavohmalvares6964

    @gustavohmalvares6964

    2 жыл бұрын

    i hadn’t noticed until i read your comment, but every time i picked the “i’m living in hell” option i was kind of mirroring how i actually feel. i thought about choosing that option but it just didn’t fit with… harry? or me? thank you for opening my eyes (i’ve just finished the game and still haven’t processed it . will i ever? )

  • @felonious83

    @felonious83

    2 жыл бұрын

    “Are you the miracle?” “No … you are the miracle”

  • @SJKlapecki
    @SJKlapecki3 жыл бұрын

    Disco Elysium is one of the most impactful, most meaningful, most painful games I've ever played. Really glad to see you finally cover it.

  • @Prussiaz

    @Prussiaz

    3 жыл бұрын

    I agree its in my top 5 of all time

  • @BigBadBalrog
    @BigBadBalrog2 жыл бұрын

    The shootout literally had me in shock. No tears fell from my eyes, but I walked into the Whirling and looked at all those empty seats and just felt... numb.

  • @iknow991
    @iknow9913 жыл бұрын

    this is the first time i've ever stopped at a spoiler warning. I can't stress enough how difficult that was.

  • @SophiefromMars

    @SophiefromMars

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don't usually say spoiler warnings out loud like that either, but I think it was very warranted here

  • @ScotRotum

    @ScotRotum

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@SophiefromMars I stopped at the spoiler warning, took 8 months to finish the game, and I'm back now.

  • @jayl2493

    @jayl2493

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ScotRotum Congrats, dude. I only finished the game a few days ago (unsuccessfully due to a few glitches), and it's taken massive amounts of self-control to deliberately ignore spoilers about the Dolores Dei dream and the Phasmid conversation just bc I got cheated out of seeing them. Big ups on the self-control

  • @chilldude30

    @chilldude30

    2 жыл бұрын

    Me too But I finished the game last night and I'm so happy to watch this now

  • @hollymorgan547
    @hollymorgan5473 жыл бұрын

    Curio🤝Jacob Geller Disco Elysium video this month

  • @SamuelElPesado

    @SamuelElPesado

    3 жыл бұрын

    Now all we need is to watch Noah Caldwell-Gervais and we have a Disco Elysium Essay Trifecta!

  • @Scribe

    @Scribe

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SamuelElPesado and Renegade Cut!

  • @Tinyvalkyrie410

    @Tinyvalkyrie410

    2 жыл бұрын

    And RagnarRox!

  • @kabobawsome
    @kabobawsome2 жыл бұрын

    Something I love about Disco Elysium, that's honestly just in no way related to the actual point of the video or the game, is that it's a fucking masterclass in how to world-build a world with very lightly mystical elements. It manages to feel grounded and also just so alien when the mystical elements actually pop up.

  • @marskessler
    @marskessler Жыл бұрын

    Disco Elysium is a dating sim, me and my husband are sitting on a swing, watching the sea, while he teaches me how to whistle.

  • @tittybeans2790
    @tittybeans2790 Жыл бұрын

    Somewhere in the middle of my first run, I realized that Harry was just kind of this malleable man child in the beginning of the game. And a really big aspect of the game that I enjoyed was the fact that you can dig deep through Harry’s subconsciousness and alcoholism, to make him the person that he could’ve been before he spiraled. it’s like all the good things about him were already there but they were just buried underneath this layer of severe and untreated mental illness. Like you can give him that opportunity for redemption man😭😭😭😭

  • @samatkinson3436
    @samatkinson34363 жыл бұрын

    Genuinely one of the best games of all time. So excited for full voice acting.

  • @SophiefromMars

    @SophiefromMars

    3 жыл бұрын

    Me too!

  • @laurenbastin8849
    @laurenbastin88493 жыл бұрын

    the insulindian phasmid is without a doubt my favourite thing in the game

  • @patricktinkl4996

    @patricktinkl4996

    3 жыл бұрын

    That and the whole bit in the church. Managing to pull off those sick moves and all that comes after that completely floored me.

  • @laurenbastin8849

    @laurenbastin8849

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@patricktinkl4996 “code 31, code 31! Officer needs assistance on the dance floor”

  • @spiraljumper74

    @spiraljumper74

    Жыл бұрын

    @@laurenbastin8849 “Kim, this is the one and only time I’m going to pull rank on you! Get out here and CUT IT UP WITH ME, THAT’S AN ORDER!”

  • @nekobun
    @nekobun3 жыл бұрын

    "god is dead and we taught him solarbeam" merch when?

  • @TheJollyGotthardt
    @TheJollyGotthardt3 жыл бұрын

    Renegade, Geller and now Curio - this game is *everywhere*

  • @SophiefromMars

    @SophiefromMars

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's bc it's really good!

  • @TheJollyGotthardt

    @TheJollyGotthardt

    3 жыл бұрын

    Haha, I figured

  • @Hazel-cv5cj

    @Hazel-cv5cj

    3 жыл бұрын

    If you’re looking for more, Gervais did an awesome analysis too

  • @belcavendishny

    @belcavendishny

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Hazel-cv5cj i love noah caldwell-gervais, i feel bad that he's stuck with that surname

  • @mookinbabysealfurmittens

    @mookinbabysealfurmittens

    2 жыл бұрын

    I just spotted that Night Mind did it, too. So I'm about to watch that... He's a nice guy, but he's a horror/ARG guy, not political whenever he possibly can avoid it. Nightmare Masterclass is proper left and has always been so [here, I mean] but it does put off a lot of people, which is such a shame. Fantastic video, Sophie. ♡

  • @trissylegs
    @trissylegs2 жыл бұрын

    "no of course not. He calls you a liberal pedophile." Is so hilarious in a way I could probably never convey to anyone

  • @historyelemental7800
    @historyelemental78002 жыл бұрын

    Another great thing with "getting your shit together" in the game is that it's a process. You can't wake up from drinking so hard you forget the world and expect instantly be able to repair all damage both physical and emotional. You have to put not only work, but time in. It doesn't matter how hard you work, you can't build a bridge in one day

  • @SophiefromMars

    @SophiefromMars

    2 жыл бұрын

    YES!

  • @LEEboneisDaMan
    @LEEboneisDaMan3 жыл бұрын

    "One Day, I Will Return To Your Side" -The Future that is screaming to be born as the present tries desperately to hold on

  • @constantreader1422
    @constantreader14223 жыл бұрын

    i think you meant "adam driver creator"

  • @SophiefromMars

    @SophiefromMars

    3 жыл бұрын

    Deep curio lore cut

  • @Isilily
    @Isilily3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for acknowledging there is more to ttrpgs with measurably less racism than just d&d

  • @SophiefromMars

    @SophiefromMars

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I've honestly never played that much D&D, other systems are just more fun!

  • @caddwen2902

    @caddwen2902

    Жыл бұрын

    Egads yes! I've enjoyed D&D since 2nd edition, and the current (5th) edition is a really good tabletop battle simulator, but I find it really sad and FRUSTRATING that "D&D" is a synonym for "RPG".

  • @januszkurahenowski2860

    @januszkurahenowski2860

    Жыл бұрын

    Why is D&D racist? Just an honest question, don't know too much about it. Guess it's pretty old and being racist was common back then? But any examples of it?

  • @imminentlitch9267

    @imminentlitch9267

    Жыл бұрын

    @@januszkurahenowski2860 little late but i assume its abt the orcs being inclined to evil but theyve remvoed hooray

  • @mollywantshugs5944
    @mollywantshugs5944 Жыл бұрын

    I definitely feel sympathy (especially pity) for Harry. My impression is that he was probably an okay person at some point but years of alcoholism, untreated depression, and other problems have broken him and he has finally reached true rock bottom

  • @kikrinman1450

    @kikrinman1450

    11 ай бұрын

    That's not really an impression, that's an explicit fact that the game addresses.

  • @Kay-kg6ny
    @Kay-kg6ny3 жыл бұрын

    Curio: *has a bigger Snorlax than me* Me: This means war.

  • @bareakon
    @bareakon3 жыл бұрын

    Who is Harry? My name is Raphaël Ambrosius Costeau

  • @MortalGlare
    @MortalGlare3 жыл бұрын

    "I'm a big gamer baby" Honestly...yea. This is the good relatable content I came here for.

  • @youtubeuniversity3638
    @youtubeuniversity36383 жыл бұрын

    Thought it said "Replaying Heaven" Also confused this with Renegade Cut.

  • @Darleer
    @Darleer3 жыл бұрын

    When I clutched the roll to make Harrier dances his heart out in the church/club I just straight up cried. What a game

  • @ScrapRabbit
    @ScrapRabbit3 жыл бұрын

    "Friends don't let friends be scabs"

  • @ferdinandpenguin
    @ferdinandpenguin3 жыл бұрын

    I know you don’t think this vid is the best but it still absolutely slaps

  • @madcountofdumont7742
    @madcountofdumont77423 жыл бұрын

    This video was actually really inspiring. Thanks Soph

  • @SophiefromMars

    @SophiefromMars

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you liked it! I was really worried about it after the first draft!

  • @madcountofdumont7742

    @madcountofdumont7742

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also, all the Pokemon purchases were worth it. Every Pokemon joke you made was solid gold. @@SophiefromMars

  • @misteryA555
    @misteryA5552 жыл бұрын

    The best part of this game is when I shot the body down even though I only had a 27% chance and Kim was so proud of me he called me a sharpshooter or something like that. 100/10 I'm in love with that man

  • @discodetectiive
    @discodetectiive3 жыл бұрын

    JUST FINISHED THE VIDEO ESSAY AND HOLY SHIT! THIS IS PERFECT! you basically just encapsulated all my feelings about this game in one video! amazing :-)

  • @SophiefromMars

    @SophiefromMars

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ooh, well I have more thoughts, maybe the next Disco Elysium vid will learn ya something lol

  • @evelynminer8568
    @evelynminer85683 жыл бұрын

    I'm honestly relieved to hear you're not a "only plays D&D 5e" tabletop gamers (or even worse, being in the "has only ever heard of D&D 5e" crowd). Not in an elitist sense, but in a "there's so much more out there" sense. I absolutely loved this game. Great video too!

  • @SophiefromMars

    @SophiefromMars

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I really bounced off D&D hard every time I've tried to get into it

  • @GroundThing

    @GroundThing

    3 жыл бұрын

    I definitely get some of the things 5e's design decisions were going for, so I try not to give the game too much flak, despite definitely it not being a game for me, but I really dislike the way that the renaissance of TTRPGs in modern culture has largely only coalesced around 5e, rather than what I was hoping to see of people getting into TTRPGs with 5e, then branching out once they saw what more was out there, if only from a selfish "I want to actually play one of the systems I never get to play, but people immediately lose interest when it's not 5e" stance. Also, the part about being a GM to push communist propaganda on your friends, you don't even need to be the GM for that. In my second ever campaign I started essentially a communist revolution in a major city, and there was a whole lot of communist propaganda I was putting out in those sessions.

  • @yum9918

    @yum9918

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's crazy how there are ttrpgs that are not about killing things and taking their loot.

  • @maximeteppe7627

    @maximeteppe7627

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SophiefromMars would you consider doing a video specifically about tabletop RPGs? It feels like the indie RPG scene has really embraced LGBT positivity (apocalypse world, dreams askew) and even anarchist viewpoints (notably in blades in the dark) and there are many games without a GM, which could be described as an egalitarian approach to RPG design. It could be interesting to tackle, and be in your wheelhouse, but I can understand that it could be less "marketable" a subject than TV and videogames.

  • @maximeteppe7627

    @maximeteppe7627

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SophiefromMars would you consider doing a video specifically about tabletop RPGs? It feels like the indie RPG scene has really embraced LGBT positivity (apocalypse world, dreams askew) and even anarchist viewpoints (notably in blades in the dark) and there are many games without a GM, which could be described as an egalitarian approach to RPG design. It could be interesting to tackle, and be in your wheelhouse, but I can understand that it could be less "marketable" a subject than TV and videogames.

  • @paperbackwriter1111
    @paperbackwriter11112 жыл бұрын

    My favorite thing about talking to the deserter is probably that to convince the Deserter that you‘re a communist you need to pass a conceptualization check about the exploding king monument. It‘s nice that breaking through to this bitter, bitter asshole, who lost all hope and human connection to capital mass murderers, and replaced it with hatred for everyone and women in particular, happens by interpreting art.

  • @Isobibbel
    @Isobibbel3 жыл бұрын

    You have made me buy monster of the week and I am currently building the courage to ask my mostly dnd group the play once we finish our current campaign. Thank you

  • @SophiefromMars

    @SophiefromMars

    3 жыл бұрын

    You can do it!

  • @nuttmeg20
    @nuttmeg203 жыл бұрын

    Hyyyyyype!!! Also your hair looks so cute omg!

  • @nullusanxietas2379
    @nullusanxietas23792 жыл бұрын

    The bit about his "Lizard Brain" moment reminded me of the intro of Pillars of Eternity II, where you can continue the game and Save the World (tm) or ask to be reincarnated as a housecat. BEST. GAME OVER. EVER. 😽👌

  • @MrBazBake
    @MrBazBake3 жыл бұрын

    The "what's an RPG" issue pops up when we forget Adventure games. These include text-based (Zork, Hitchhiker's Guide), point and click (Circle of Blood, Maniac Mansion, Leisure Suit Larry, Blade Runner), first-person (Myst, 7th Guest, every walking simulator which is really just a First-Person adventure game), and Action/Adventures (Zelda, Metroid, Castlevania). Disco Elysium is an RPG whose interface is an Adventure Game. The same way Borderlands is an RPG whose interface is a First Person Shooter. And Nier Automata is an RPG that's also an Adventure Game and a Bullet Hell and an Action game. These debates are too essentialist, personally, as I see Disco Elysium not as a platonic ideal of any one genre but as the natural progression of multiple genres working together to fulfill the needs of the game. I believe it owes as much to Planescape Torment as it does to Full Throttle.

  • @maximeteppe7627

    @maximeteppe7627

    3 жыл бұрын

    I feel like there is something to the Idea that Disco Elysium is "the platonic Ideal of an RPG" (not that I subscribe to strict classifications or platonic ideals in general) in the sense that it feels like it genuinely descends from tabletop roleplaying rather than solely from video game RPGs. like there is a tendency to boil down RPOG mechanics to stats and skill points, and I think a game that allows dialogue to meaningfully shape your character is closer to what the term RPG means to people across formats (both digital and tabletop).

  • @meganroserebecca

    @meganroserebecca

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ye Gods, Planescape Torment...What a game! Come to think of it, Disco Elysium did feel, at its core, in its soul, more than a bit Planescape Torment-y.

  • @maximeteppe7627

    @maximeteppe7627

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@meganroserebecca You're not the only one drawing that comparison: Noah Caldwell-Gervais also draws parallels and contrasts between the two in his essay about disco Elysium.

  • @fengy5629
    @fengy56292 жыл бұрын

    I got super lucky and ended up filming my reaction to the Phasmid appearing; not so luckily, that reaction was jumping up, dropping the device I was recording on, and screaming mindlessly in joy :D I just didn't expect it at all; I even thought it was a joke when Harry thought he heard the Col Do Ma Ma Daqua. The whole time I felt like I was going *against* the game by doing all the locust quests, like I was being silly and sentimental, but there she was!!!! And her voice in the uncut version is the same as the dicemaker!!! For the entire conversation I didn't give a shit about my ex-thing or the strike or the deserter or solving the HANGED MAN MURDER or suicide, I was just. So. HAPPY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It was SUCH a reward, like being given a PS4 box with nothing inside it for your birthday... Because the PS4 is already set up! Thank god for Karl Marx or we wouldn't have this wonderful game.

  • @spiraljumper74
    @spiraljumper74 Жыл бұрын

    Okay, we need a new video now that Final Cut is out. I’m playing it with my wife right now (for the first time) and having just such an amazing time. Making our Harry into someone we can both respect and, even love has been one of my proudest gaming achievements. And Kim respects us! Like, a lot! We’ve danced together! Talked about how cool his car is! Played settlers of catan together (Kim won because I spent all my time building infrastructure and healthcare and public education for my worker tokens)! I come from a cop family and consequently, cannot fucking stand cops in basically any media, but we both fucking love these two cops. If that’s not a testament to the strength of this game’s writing and humanistic message I don’t know what is. I’ve been watching a lot of clips of other people’s Harrys just to see what it’s like. And one of my favorites goes like this- Harry reads and internalizes some bit of fascist mythologia about an Icebreaking ship. Kim is wise to it and Harry keeps calling himself “the icebreaker.” Kim exasperatedly but gently tells him, “No Harry, you’re not The Icebreaker, you’re a cop investigating a murder, now please stop.” But Harry keeps going, so Kim snaps. “What the fuck do you think you are doing!?” Kim shouts, “nevermind, don’t answer that, and don’t bring it up again.” And Harry’s thoughts pop up to tell him that he feels properly chastened, and after what Kim said, the whole idea feels kind of lame and stupid anyhow. It’s just so perfect. Fascists can’t act out in the open like that because if they have anyone they respect, anyone they’re emotionally accountable to outside that fascist framework, it just doesn’t work. Kim won’t let you be that person. If Harry is a fascist at all, he works quietly, he denies he’s a Nazi, just like real fascists, just like fucking Gary.

  • @yourexistentialpenpal
    @yourexistentialpenpal3 жыл бұрын

    In the middle of playing this game I went out thrifting and found this iridescent, almost pastel, deep v-neck shirt with a wildly impractical sash and i bought it becomes it looked so disco and reminds me of this game

  • @MrTantrill
    @MrTantrill3 жыл бұрын

    That final moment on the abandoned island where "it" happens is one of the most magical moments of video gaming I've experienced in a long time. It was a such a great interaction.

  • @theaureliasys6362
    @theaureliasys63623 жыл бұрын

    Erm... the thing with intrusive thoughts is... they're often ego dystonic, meaning, the person having them is having them, because they DON'T align with them.

  • @theaureliasys6362

    @theaureliasys6362

    3 жыл бұрын

    And not telling others about said intrusive thoughts is a skill you have to learn.

  • @blueelectric5691
    @blueelectric56913 жыл бұрын

    This video was fantastic and I feel like there's just so much to get into with Disco Elysium that I would literally be able to listen to people talk about it forever. I got patreon so that I could see this video early and I watched it again today after work and.... wow I love this game and wow I loved listening to you talk about it. It's definitely worth playing over and over and tho I played the first time blind at no point did I feel like I was "locked out" of parts of the game - another example of great DMing - letting your players fail in interesting ways that don't end their ability to move forward. It's the difference between convincing Plaisance to let you investigate or just ripping the curtains down and breaking the door down so that she get's mad at you. The only thing I wish you had talked about that you didn't was The Homosexual Underground and the Smoker on the Balcony and getting to play Harry having some sort of gay panic and Kim watching on bemusedly.

  • @martaszabo465
    @martaszabo4652 жыл бұрын

    So this is an old video but I've been binging your channel all day in a half-depressed state bc of... *gestures vaguely at everything*, and I just. I really needed the end of this video. Just today I've been raving internally about how "all my problems are systemic" but also I just really need to get my shit together and like, finish writing my thesis. So like... thank you so much.

  • @choczynski
    @choczynski3 жыл бұрын

    I'm so looking forward to when this game comes out for the switch

  • @D9992.
    @D9992.2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for this video. I think I was first introduced to Disco Elysium because of it. I finally played it and this game is one of my all time favorite games now. I only played it once till now, but every interaction counted. I absolutely love the stats system. For someone who can't identify their feelings most of the time, seeing how every feeling/skill affected Harry's ideas was mind blowing for me. I spent most of the run just trying to impress sir Kim Kitsuragi. I think I baffled him more than impressed him, but Harry baffled me all of the time. I think it's obvious now that I'm a sorocop lol

  • @a1631423
    @a16314233 жыл бұрын

    i tried to fight measurehead, had a heart attack and died.

  • @goodolreliablejake4662
    @goodolreliablejake46622 жыл бұрын

    I was so excited to hear you mention Monster of the Week! Powered by the Apocalypse games are my all time favorites. They deserve all the attention.

  • @jasonkillbourn
    @jasonkillbourn3 жыл бұрын

    Crikey, I think I really might have to start playing computer games again, which is a strange thing to be saying at 50, but my son has been pestering me for a while now, to play Fallout New Vegas with him, on his console, because he thinks it's the sort of thing I'd enjoy, and now this game has got me scrabbling about on ebay, trying to see if I can upgrade my knackered old core 2 duo PC to meet the minimum spec for it. I should really just wait for it to come out on console, but I seriously don't think I'll have the patience :-)

  • @Zach.C1

    @Zach.C1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Fallout new Vegas is probably right behind this game in terms of the greatest rpg’s ever made

  • @MarioVelezBThinkin
    @MarioVelezBThinkin2 жыл бұрын

    I avoided playing this video for a while cause I just never got a hold of Disco. Then I played it. Yeah Cyberpunk not only has all of those problems you discussed in your later video but holy shit does it not even hold a silent pale candle up to this master work. God we need more of this!

  • @Mazerf
    @Mazerf2 жыл бұрын

    This game is one of the few I have played where my choice to put off doing something and then the fallout of said choice made me viscerally feel like I had done the wrong thing. My choosing to just not do a thing because I thought it was unimportant led to an outcome that I should have seen coming and didn't which really struck me because rarely does that happen in games and rarely does it actually have impact.

  • @NubileReptile
    @NubileReptile2 жыл бұрын

    Excellent essay. I find playing Disco Elysium oddly soothing. Whenever the rapidly deteriorating hellscape that is our world gets me down, I'll come back to it and something about it always makes me feel a little bit better. Something I don't think you mentioned about fascism in Disco Elysium that I really loved: if you internalize Revacholian Nationhood, the thought associated with fascism, it gives you enhanced benefits for drinking alcohol but does morale damage every time you select a fascist dialogue option going forward. A fascist Harry alienates Kim, of course, but he's also inflicting ongoing psychic wounds to himself the more he indulges his bigotry. And having internalized the thought, he's given a stronger incentive to keep destroying himself with alcohol, which means a fascist Harry is more likely than most to be dead from alcohol abuse not long after the credits roll. Internalizing fascism is depicted not only as destructive to the world around you, but as inherently an ideology of self-destruction.

  • @ct691
    @ct6912 жыл бұрын

    Disco elysium has such an insane amount of layers i feel like i can never fully process this game like it deserves There are so many things to interpret and it always feels like a shame to fail to mention one of them

  • @CapriSunSportLemon
    @CapriSunSportLemon3 жыл бұрын

    Trailers for premieres is an awesome thing.

  • @n.l.g.6401
    @n.l.g.64013 жыл бұрын

    Apologies for the double-comment, but that bit towards the end where you played the clip of Harry's id whispering "you don't have to do anything anymore" made me break down and cry. Cut to the core, that bit.

  • @SophiefromMars

    @SophiefromMars

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's a really powerful game

  • @dorianvale854
    @dorianvale8543 жыл бұрын

    I always have such a blast watching these videos, you've got an impeccable sense of humor

  • @mse90
    @mse90 Жыл бұрын

    I just finished my first playthrough, and I totally missed that part about Evrart, because if you talk to the Deserter about René first, and tell him that he died of a heart attack recently, he gets sad and doesn't really want to talk about anyone else anymore. I loved that insight into his character, because he keeps talking about how he always planned to kill René himself, but you can see that he's genuinely devastated that he's dead. As much as he considered René his enemy, he was also one of the last connections he had to a past that he refused to move on from. I also loved the inframaterialist sidequest with the communist students. Their theories were absolutely laughable and boiled down to 'if you think about communism, that's enough to change the world actually', but then you can still help them to build their insane theory matchbox building and it's a whole moment. Because even if they still think that it's because of their batshit theories, what it really shows is that impossible things can be achieved through cooperation. Also, if you tell them to ask for Cindy's help to put up posters or whatever, she does it by defacing the statue of the king in the square, it's great.

  • @Monkeydominator
    @Monkeydominator3 жыл бұрын

    I love Disco Elysium so much. Just. So much. The game made me feel bad for pestering Kim until he finally told me about [REDACTED FOR SPOILERS] but listen. Listen. I'm [REDACTED FOR SPOILERS] and I needed to k n o w I was not the o n l y o n e. Though of course I realized in hindsight that making HARRY the one who pestered him was. Well. Kind of like asking someone on a date if they've ever struggled with their mental health, all while wearing a "Don't stick your d*ck in crazy" t-shirt.

  • @rabcye4333
    @rabcye43332 жыл бұрын

    "And then at the end of the game, if you completed this sidequest.." something beautiful is about to happen

  • @TheAtticus82
    @TheAtticus827 ай бұрын

    "God is dead and we taught him Solar Beam" is an incredible line, haha

  • @rylands4289
    @rylands42893 жыл бұрын

    I love that my favourite essayists are covering Disco Elysium

  • @SomeNerdyVlogger
    @SomeNerdyVlogger3 жыл бұрын

    I found the resolution of the A plot deeply unsatisfying. I immediately started another playthrough, anyway. That's how good the characters and conversations are.

  • @KayAndSkittles
    @KayAndSkittles3 жыл бұрын

    Loved this!! The editing was really great too :)

  • @freddurden7130
    @freddurden7130 Жыл бұрын

    you recommended this game in another video, and I finally got around to trying it today, fantastic instant 10/10 thank you

  • @thesii213
    @thesii2133 жыл бұрын

    This is maybe my favorite video analysis of Disco. Well done.

  • @Dsonsee
    @Dsonsee3 жыл бұрын

    I didn't understand I could use meds to heal health and morale so after losing a game of pétanque with the old men my character retired from being a cop

  • @dmoneyonair
    @dmoneyonair3 жыл бұрын

    so thankful you showed me this. thoroughly enjoying the final cut

  • @st_syfr
    @st_syfr3 жыл бұрын

    Honestly one of my favorites of your videos!

  • @SophiefromMars

    @SophiefromMars

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm really happy to hear that

  • @ninjanina9369
    @ninjanina93693 жыл бұрын

    I’m pretty new to your channel, but I’m finding your insight utterly fascinating - great video!

  • @ToastyJunebugs
    @ToastyJunebugs3 жыл бұрын

    Your Snorlax looks like it's over the entire world and it just wants to pass out and forget it, but at the same time it exudes real "I'm going to bitch slap the planet" energy.

  • @kaleidoscopickait
    @kaleidoscopickait3 жыл бұрын

    I love this game so much. This video is amazing and gave me so much to think about. What you said about putting the work in being scary really resonated with me. A great part in this game (there are so many great parts) is when you try to sing in the bar, but I failed that skill check HARD and Harry just belted the most awful singing ever, it so fucking hilarious. And afterward you can ask people in the bar about it and they’re like “wtf” I can’t wait to play this game again when the final edition released with full voice acting, it is going to be amazing!!

  • @TheBrett1890
    @TheBrett18903 жыл бұрын

    I needed a Curio video, thanks my dude :D

  • @discodetectiive
    @discodetectiive3 жыл бұрын

    woooo! man im so pumped! ive been fixating on disco elysium for a couple months now and im so happy folks are making content about it!!!!

  • @fleecemaneparka4177
    @fleecemaneparka41773 жыл бұрын

    I have fun with fallout games, but the bad shooters stapled to them definitely could go and I wouldn't miss them.

  • @kayla8402

    @kayla8402

    Жыл бұрын

    Highly recommend tracking down Fallout 1 and 2. Nothing has the complexity of Disco, but they're MUCH more like Disco than the later games. Dramatically different character builds make a real difference, you bypass shootouts to win, all that.

  • @von_derpenstein
    @von_derpenstein3 жыл бұрын

    This is absolutely magnificent! Would love to watch you talk about this game more.

  • @beefyboy49
    @beefyboy492 жыл бұрын

    Finally rewatching this after playing and wow, even though I had all the spoilers it was still so surprising and amazing

  • @99wattr89
    @99wattr893 жыл бұрын

    This script really came together. :)

  • @SophiefromMars

    @SophiefromMars

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! I'm really glad you think so

  • @99wattr89

    @99wattr89

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SophiefromMars As someone struggling to make an impact in a very different creative field I now understand that you really mean it when you say that, which makes me all the more glad to be able to give my sincere thanks for your work. I learn something every time I watch your videos and I look forward to your uploads. Take good care of yourself.

  • @brumbpotungus1408
    @brumbpotungus14083 жыл бұрын

    This vid slaps, it really sums up what I love about Disco Elysium. Just the sheer wonder at the Phasmid encounter was enough to make me really love the game, and that's just one of the bigger scenes. Super unique too how your skills all have personalities and biases, I don't know that I've ever seen that in a game before. Anyway, just wanted to say thanks for making this excellent video, also your makeup rules.

  • @serene1172
    @serene11723 жыл бұрын

    This is the content I didn’t know I needed. I love it.

  • @k-majik
    @k-majik3 жыл бұрын

    I love that you open on an El Sandifer quote there, magnificent

  • @slightlyinfernal3415
    @slightlyinfernal34153 жыл бұрын

    just started the video i'm sure it's deep and amazing as always, but i just have to pause and say your aesthetic is on point

  • @Ancusohm
    @Ancusohm3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for doing this video, Sophie. The first time I played Disco Elysium, I bounced off the game really quickly. The intro just throws so much at you so fast that I kinda got overloaded. This video inspired me to go back and give the game another try. Once you get over the initial hump (or get a basic understanding of the lore and what you're supposed to do), it's way more fun. Thanks!

  • @daffodilledpickles
    @daffodilledpickles3 жыл бұрын

    Haven’t gotten the chance to play the game yet, but I hope to come back and watch the video then! I love all your video essays so I’m leaving a like and a comment for the time being, and sharing with my friends who’ve already played :)

  • @zhhsshhhd5949
    @zhhsshhhd59493 жыл бұрын

    Never have I reacted so quickly to a spoiler warning. In fact I’ve never reacted to one ever. Time to go buy a game I guess.

  • @spehizle
    @spehizle Жыл бұрын

    You opened on the moment that made me fall in love with this game.

  • @junkjunkloot4357
    @junkjunkloot43573 жыл бұрын

    Wow. Thanks for the insights. This hits way beyond a video game review.

  • @blopiflopit7416
    @blopiflopit7416 Жыл бұрын

    Hi, beautiful work, thank you for all you've done here, thank you

  • @ethanburger1121
    @ethanburger1121 Жыл бұрын

    I haven't seen any of your work before, but I'm definitely going to be following it now.

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