Dirty vs Clean Car | MythBusters | Season 6 Episode 29 | Full Episode
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Adam and Jamie get down and dirty with the myth that a muddy motorcar gets better gas mileage than it's clean cousin. Meanwhile Kari, Grant and Tory are hitting the sauce and comparing hangovers to test an age old adage about beer and liquor.
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I'm so absurdly sad that Adam and James didn't use a VW Golf
@alleythetoaster8401
Ай бұрын
This comment made me giggle. Thanks haha
@lordicarus8807
Ай бұрын
Ok, that took me a while to understand... I'm so stupid!!! hahaha, great joke, man!!!
@xl000
Ай бұрын
VW Golf are not very popular in the US I would not be surprised if they exist under a different name
@GJR44
Ай бұрын
@@xl000 they're not very popular there, but they're still sold as VW Golf
@Ard1304
25 күн бұрын
@@xl000 afaik they used to be sold as vw rabbit, but at one point they agreed to the name golf
Poor Grant, didn't even get to start the puke test. Kari: "Just think, when you vomit, the test is over!" Grant's stomach: "Sounds good, here ya go."
@webraverx
Ай бұрын
Well you can see that the puke is coming from Grant's right cheek
@eyecontactleadsto
Ай бұрын
@@webraverx If you actually watch it slowly (god why did i do that?) he is definitely throwing up also for the original comment - it's so funny, Kari literally just saying the word 'vomit' triggers the response
@_letstartariot
Ай бұрын
We’ve all been there. Where the idea of puking makes you want to puke.
@DrFS_Freddy
Ай бұрын
RIP Grant… :(
Laughed my ass of when Tory tried to jump in bed and almost broke both of his legs.
@sarcastaball
2 ай бұрын
Sadistic
@Johny40Se7en
2 ай бұрын
That was stupid AF. Tory's clumsy as hell when he's sober, so that was a right dick move that could have ended SO much worse. Silly bugger 😅😆
@lewismaclean8849
2 ай бұрын
It bears repeating, as funny as that looks and watch, don’t try that at home.
@SPierre-dm4wo
2 ай бұрын
If you listen closely, someone in the background is going "Waitwaitwaitwait, Tory!" as he's about to jump, lol
@asdads3948
2 ай бұрын
I cringed so hard. It came so unexspected for me. Also the way he just goes like "yep, time for bed" immediately after, you can tell he hurt himself but knew he got real lucky there.
31:08 production yelling at Tory lol
Ah yes; the episode where they get absolutely hammered for science. Classic.
I thought Tori's 11 beers were ridiculous, but Grant getting a puking hangover on 5 beers?? That's an engineer right there
@tiagobelo4965
26 күн бұрын
y'all got some very different engineers over yonder
@Morbing_Time
26 күн бұрын
What kind of engineers are you hanging with lol
@mmmdawe
19 күн бұрын
asian descent, asians have really bad alcohol tolerance
@LorisEnsatzuken
14 күн бұрын
It truly show how different constitution, different effects. After all for same alcohol amount he got no hangover with the beer + liquor.
@CZProtton
10 күн бұрын
Its clear from the other test that Grant handles beer badly. Its yeast based, the liquor is spirit based, there is a difference.
"It's a squirrel! Get him!"
@lordicarus8807
Ай бұрын
I love the randomness of this show's moments...
Tory's joke about American chopper was golden!!
the "I dont know what to dooou" got me hahaha
My theory is that you save more money at the car wash if you don’t wash your car.
@islandsCanada
Ай бұрын
Yah I have 4 km's of dirt road to get home! I spent 8 dollars last week to clean my my car of all the mud build up and to bring my car home dirty again..............
@_Zekken
Ай бұрын
A bucket of soap and a sponge, and you can clean the car for nearly free at home
That opening shot, with Jamie twirling a longsword, is just the perfect display of why he’s such a hero in my eyes! I grew up watching MythBusters non-stop, yet here I am rewatching it, just because I love Jamie’s style and character so much. With divorced parents, I watched so much of this show in my youth that it feels as though these two “gentlemen” practically raised me! We’ll see if that’s a good thing, or a dangerous one!
@skilletborne
Ай бұрын
Two of a kind! My parents separated, and me and my sister were practically raised by Mythbusters too We jokingly call them our extra dads a lot and were really inspired by them into becoming makers and crafters
@DoctorNemmo
Ай бұрын
They truly educated us in the ways of science.
About the golf ball effect thing, there's probably several reasons we don't see it on cars or planes. On cars: 1. It's a lot harder (and more expensive) to manufacture and maintain. 2. You really only need the turbulent flow at the back of the car, which you can produce using the little fins that a lot of cars have at the back. 3. I'm guessing a lot of people wouldn't like the look. On planes: 1. You're seriously going to mess up the lift. Ice on wings can have the same effect, and has resulted in a few crashes.
@magnusandersen8898
Ай бұрын
Just don't do it on the wings then
@MrMarinus18
Ай бұрын
But also when going through high winds and especially rain the dimples would create a lot of turbulance which will translate into vibrations. With a golfball it is a sphere so it's the same all the way around. With an irregular shape like a car though the forces can interact with each other in all kinds of ways.
@mishkamcivor409
Ай бұрын
They are actually used on aircraft.... sort of, we have things called vortex generators which are used to prevent airflow seperation in specific strategic areas of the wings which can improve stall characeristics. The reason you don't see dimples is that they are harder to build and might compromise the integrity of a pressurised fuselage or add additional unwanted weight, you also have to account for the fact that the fuselage of an aircraft is usually highly tapered at the back meaning that the airflow is much less likely to seperate and create a low pressure zone in the first place so the airflow just doesn't need to stick as well
@jayerjavec
Ай бұрын
Did anyone ask you? No? Who gives a shit what you think.
@alelokox88
29 күн бұрын
The Bugatti Bolide is the only car it use it concept in real life, but those cars are made to the upmost extreme so a extra 11% is just golden.
This is why Volkswagen made the Golf model💯
@linux_doggo
Ай бұрын
And then proceeded to lie about it's efficiency
@paularteau9482
Ай бұрын
@@linux_doggototal lie... 48mpg in a 21 year old shit box diesel with over 400,000 miles. smfh. People these days.
The beer and liquor myth tends to be same amount of beer at least plus a load of spirits plus a kebab on the way home. Real life conditions and lab conditions may differ
@redshirt49
2 ай бұрын
The big factor here is time and amount consumed. When you combine beer and liquour you tend to drink more alcohol in a shorter time frame, thus raising your BAC faster. If the evening is the same length as well you end up drinking a larger amount than you would otherwise, thus leading to this idea that mixing your drinks is a bad idea. They were approaching this from the wrong angle really, a better thing to determine is whether taking shots in addition to their regular drinking would cause them to overestimate or underestimate how much they can reasonably tolerate.
@olenilsen4660
Ай бұрын
@@redshirt49 I agree, that has to be what the saying is in some way implying. I mean, it´s not like a 293 page doctorate, it´s meant as advice for novice drunkards ;) ie. telling your teenagers (or friends) how not to get sh1tfaced. So your explanation is plausible.
@thegreatcanadianlumberjack5307
Ай бұрын
@@redshirt49 It also depends on the Kind of Spirits as well and another Variable is Sugar which can worsen a hangover. i noticed they Drank mostly Whiskey (Which has no Sugar) but they were Drinking Tequilia which can have some Sugar in it and i wonder if the Results could be diffrent if they were Drink Vodka or a more Sugary Spirit like Rum.
@Greippi10
Ай бұрын
@@redshirt49 not to mention dehydration, beer will at least replace some of the lost water.
@mockingjay478
Ай бұрын
It probably also would've made more sense to people watching to translate the alcohol they drank into standard drinks. I don't know about in the US, but here in Australia, any alcoholic drink must have the alcohol percentage and the number of standard drinks in the bottle/can. Eg: a rum and coke can is normally 1.6-1.8 standard drinks. This is easier to then translate into how many standard drinks are in the beer and shots, which are usually not marked or mentioned in a bar.
So interesting watching a show you grew up with and even though it doesn’t feel that long ago, seeing the old technology looks ancient. Box TVs, camcorders, dvd player.
We don’t have dimples on aircraft, we have vortex generators and slats which do the same thing. Keep the boundary layer as close to the surface as possible as long as possible.
It may be different in the US.. But in Canada the rhyme goes as follows-> "Beer before liquor, never been sicker. Liquor before beer and you're in the clear".
@NFSHeld
Ай бұрын
In Germany it's "Bier auf Wein, das lass sein. Wein auf Bier, das rat' ich dir." which would translate to the rule "Drink beer first and wine second, but not the other way round". Or if I had to rhyme it: "Beer after wine and it won't be fine. Wine after beer and you're in the clear."
@TheTorbjoern
Ай бұрын
I'm willing to bet it originally had nothing to do with the effect of mixing it, but more that you're more likely to not consider your intake of shots if you're already drunk. Five shots when sober is hell, five shots when already drunk is easy.
@joshmoran2987
Ай бұрын
Sounds a bit like the good ol’ “beer before grass, you’re on your ass, grass before beer, you’re in the clear” 😂
@kaptein1247
Ай бұрын
@@NFSHeld We have exactly the same saying in holland
@TheSFMCreators
Ай бұрын
@@NFSHeldin Dutch they say “bier voor wijn geeft venijn, wijn voor bier geeft plezier” Which roughly translates into “Beer before wine is venomous, wine before beer is joyous”
I don't think Grant was an alcohol drinker, that means the difference between the first time in a long time getting hammered and the second time is massive. You build a certain tolerance for it. I think beer giving a worse feeling is because just drinking multiple liters in such a short time is sickening in itself. I think the myth comes from the difference in the consumption. You can very easily down a few shots, but if you're on your 10th beer you naturally go slower. Most people as a result drink more when drinking hard liqour than just beer, thus resulting in an idea that liqour gives worse hangovers
This is one of my Favourite Episodes! LOVE IT!!
This is my favourite episode. Tied with my other favourite episode which I love to see you upload is the one that features Waterslide Wipeout and Right turns only.
Rip grant miss this show it the best show
Just drink as much water as you possibly can stand before you go to bed and you'll be fine. Works every time.
@Morbing_Time
26 күн бұрын
It's better to drink something like a sports drink or fruit juice, eating something helps too.
@waltch5711
22 күн бұрын
drink water and get some electrolytes
Rest in Peace grant i know u at a better place now ! ill always remember u and the Joy u and "the mythbusters" gave me and my family im my childhood thank you ❤
Also, I would like to point out that golf balls spin.
The golfball car! I remember this from when i was a kid
8:33 ehmm where did you source these sounds from? 😅
Jamie knocked it out of the park with the dimple cutter tool, so simple.
I think the studio got sick of them buying 5 cars and told them to make this one last 😂
7:45 both were like wtf 😂
Great episode.
25:08 that one killed me 😂😂
i'm seriously surprised seeing the dimple thing did indeed such a sizable effect in drag reduction. because unlike a golf ball which is under a low turbulent regime (Re=O(5)) so that the laminar-turbulent transition hugely shrinks the wake, flow around a car at highway speed is already highly turbulent (Re=O(7)) and making it more turbulent wouldn't really help. but i suppose it still contributes working as a vortex generator and similarly energizing the bl to keep the flow attached. ofc the effect cannot be as dramatic as a golf ball but 11% was still more than i expected. perhaps ''07 taurus doesn't have quite good aerodynamics in the first place, so that there's yet room for improvement with slight modifications
I would have been thrilled to drink for science in my early twenties. Now that I've hit mid-thirties, you'd have to pay me quite handsomely for the same effort.
I always heard the saying as "beer before liquor never sicker, liquor before beer you're in the clear"
this probably has to be my favotite episode ever.
11 cans of beer? I'm hungover after just 3 cans
When I quit alcohol, I tried non-alcoholic beer a few times and was astounded that I felt just as hungover the next day. It’s clearly not the alcohol content alone which causes the hangover. I can drink far more as straight spirits than as beer, which leads me to think that I’ve underestimated how much I’ve drunk on liquor or mixed drinks vs just beer.
That's why Bugatti developed dimpled air scoop at the Bolide's roof. Clever.
its the puns that makes it all worth it
@DoctorNemmo
Ай бұрын
It's pottery in motion.
Just to say I am going to catch up on your episodes. Watched some years ago and thought they were awesome then! With this episode the car experiment you may have got a environmental potential key to making a difference. The problem would be to make this attractive for the future car industry. I think the looks could make it quite unique and could attract some consumers. Not to mention the attractiveness of helping the environment. The test on alcohol was so fun to watch. Thank you to Tory and Grant for putting themselves through such a test to prove or disprove the quote of mixing verses not. Just to give some personal info. here. Beer I can't handle well, but whiskey I can handle very well. Could there be a genetic factory here. Excellent job on coming up with the perfect tests to test hangover effects! Enjoying your show, thank you so much!
@TheInfectous
Ай бұрын
it would need entirely new manufacturing techniques to achieve.
@islandsCanada
Ай бұрын
@@TheInfectous I totally agree. My father was a tool and dye maker for a steel company years ago. The company made car parts. It would be something worth looking into though. Expensive changes would have to be made.
@Aikidjam
Ай бұрын
I'd think if it works on planes, it would be even better for fuel economy overall
@islandsCanada
Ай бұрын
@@Aikidjam Smart idea!
@waltch5711
22 күн бұрын
I'm suprised nobody has tried it on a plane yet
They are completely wasted 😂
Our baby Graaaant
Maybe its just me but when I take shots I am already slighy loaded from the beers
Theoretically you would only need a dimpled rear end on a car for ultimate aerodynamics if I'm not mistaking
@HarpreetSingh-nw3ec
Ай бұрын
exactly my thought. a smoother front would also provide less drag.
11 percent improvement... someone has been watching Matt's Off Road Recovery!
it is interesting... If you are doing shots with no other fluid consumption then you are drinking significantly less liquid. That would only enhance the dehydration effect... which would increase the hang over... which would be the origin of the myth I would assume.
@kaptein1247
Ай бұрын
consuming a lot of the same makes you sicker quicker. Variety is key in anything you consume. Im guessing thats somehow related
Come on 5 small beers is nothing 😂
Drunk Grant is funny Grant.
My impression was that "beer before liquor" referred to if you start drinking liquor after already being drunk you're going to drink more since you're already intoxicated and therefore have a bigger hangover.
I've got a 30 year old Opel Calibra, a Coupe that had one of the best aerodynamics in its time (and still today). With my motorization of 170 hp, the car has a top speed of 147 mph. In the moment, this old car has a mileage of pretty exactly 24 mpg, (no winter, mixed traffic). Not too bad for that age... Ant that means that on a free autobahn, speeds of 90-110 mph, had him on 130 once, way not the end, but 30 years and 85,000 miles, take it easy. And on a straight course like that, with a constant 65 mph, I am pretty sure the 29 mpg of that dimpling would be achieveable without problems. Hmm.... what has improved in the last 30 years?
If you are on PC click this --> 24:32 and pause Then move frame by frame by pressing "." or "," repeatedly. The way in which Grant clumsily raises the leg rest and Tory trips into it lol.
That golf ball car is awesome! Fair play to them for going through SUCH a chore to get that done. It'd look even better with white clay, it'll look like a golf ball on wheels then 🙃😅 Absolutely shocked about the affect it has on the aerodynamics too, damn... Very surprised at the outcome of Grant and Tory's liquor charades too. And damn that was bonkers when Tory jumped onto the bed. Silly bugger 😆
@tobymaxl
2 ай бұрын
I don't think the golf ball dimples in the car had much to do with the reduction in fuel consumption. I suggest it was a change in windspeed or -direction since this would have a much bigger impact on aerodynamic drag.
@Sodium_Slug
6 күн бұрын
@@tobymaxlthe fuel efficiency of the undimpled cars was measured at different times but were the same, did the wind just happen to be the same both times?
Mercedes and a few other manufacturers have integrated dimple like functionality into their concept and super cars. Pretty neat to see these guys laying down the foundation.
RIP Grant, i think the liver also has a better condition after a few days of drinking and you body is able to remove the alcohol faster
I'm curious about how many days were between the first session of drinking and the second one. Because in my own experience, whenever I have a heavy drinking night after a fairly reasonable amount of time not drinking (around a month or so) Not only I got myself more easily wasted and with less amount of alcohol, I've always had the most horrible, disabling hangover. But if I have another heavy drinking session sooner after the first one (days or less than 2 weeks after) I can really feel a lot of tolerance overalls. Then, the next day the hangover last until around midday, and if I drink a lot of water is completely bearable.
Been great watching these again , RIP Grant
Ah the good old days!
Lmao, 😂 Just think about when you throw up and the test is over. 🤢 🤮
A great example of golf effect on cars Is the black lether roof of Nascar, the ones that have it was faster than the others without it
Just don't get drunk with beer or wine. Worst headache ever. If I plan to get wasted I simply stick to scotch with coke and the only symptom after is being tired.
The logical consequence would have been to take this car as is, and take it into a full-.size wind tunnel and EXACTLY analyze the airflow. A smooth surface causes a smooth (laminar) airflow with little drag, But such an airflow is sensitive against small disturbances, pressure changes, or following a shape. Then the airflow "delaminates", seperates from the surface, and then causes large turbulent areas creating a lot of drag. A rough surface creates a basic turbulent boundary layer on the surface. This as such has a higher basic drag coefficient than the laminar airflow. But it is more "robust" against the above disturbances, so follows a surface better. So it may be that the dimples at some points improved the airflow, probaby at the rear window. I am pretty sure that the spoiler wing on the trunk is absolutely useless. It will not produce less drag, and in these the additional downforce it creates on the rear axyle is caused by the weight of the wing and not by aerodynamic forces.
37:57 should have used a VW Golf for the test
Kari had the glow in the episode😍😍
@dillondoherty4307
Ай бұрын
Yes it definitely looks to me like she was pregnant and I am glad I wasn’t the only one who noticed which if it is true I hope she didn’t participate in any of the myths that could harm the child herself besides being an alarm to wake the ones that were drinking the alcohol
Kari saw a glimpse of her kid's later years in this episode lol. Mothering two hungover adults 😂
its more economical to drive a dirty car cause you're not paying for car washes
My appartment is so dirty and fuel efficent, the energy goes to +. Microbial growth generates enough heat, and it smells so bad the mailman refuses to deliver any bills.
manufacturers of EV should use this feature XD
What if the golf ball effect works on PLANES !?!
@nipuniperera9918
Ай бұрын
It would, but it would also mess up the lift.
@officer_baitlyn
Ай бұрын
@@nipuniperera9918 maybe just on the fuselage, though idk how that would work structurally
@xcoder1122
Ай бұрын
Actually it does but if you look at nature, you'll notice that animals that also benefit from reduced drag don't have huge dimples like golf balls, instead they have rough surface made of out tiny overlapping sheds. The typically example for that is the skin of a shark. And guess what? Some airlines have been testing covering their planes with transparent foils with such a structure and yes, that did work very well. Lufthansa started to cover their airplanes with such a foil in 2023. It's called AeroSHARK. Just search for it if you are interested in details. But if that effect has been known for so long and successful tests have already been done years ago, why did it take so long before airlines started doing it? Well, safety is paramount when flying (except when we are talking about Boeing) and long-term studies had to ensure that such foils do not pose a safety risk. I mean, what if they could have come loose during storms and then such a foil was sucked into the engine? What if these foils had massively worsened the flight behavior in turbulence? What if water holds much stronger on these films and then freezes into thick sheets of ice as soon as the outside temperature falls below a certain level? There were a number of questions that had to be clarified before flight safety authorities could even give their approval.
@CZProtton
10 күн бұрын
@@officer_baitlyn Its already done. Not by dimples, but by the design to limit the drag as much as possible.
Should have drank shots first, then beer, its the bubbles that f you up lol
Tory has a massive headache because he knocked his spine up into his head 😅
11 beers for this kind of hangover isn't as much as I'd expect :D
Probably just need the dimples at the back of the car because it is directly behind the car where you want to break up the vacuum.
I dont know what to dOooO 🤣
25:08 I don't know what 🎶TODOO🎶
The thing with beer is that the concentration of alcohol is really low compared to liquor. In order to consume the same amount of alcohol as with one shot if strong liquor you have to drink a lot of it, when you load your stomach with so much liquid combined with the alcohol it will make your stomach more upset. I always found that drinking liquor alone is way better than even beer with liquor.
@ESL1984
25 күн бұрын
Also, the carbonation of beer makes you build up a lot of gas in your guts, making it even worse when it comes to nausea.
I still feel they didn’t do the Golfball car right. The reason the Golfball has dimples everywhere is since it will rotate. But for the car you just want it near the back where you need the effect. So dimples just above the rear window and on the trunk.
The myhdirth would be applied while driving, different from spraying it on. Also I would believe the clay should increase the area of the car giving less fuel efficency while the weight lowered the car giving better fuel efficency.
why didnt they dimple half the car and see if it pulls to one side LOL!
Pretty sure the weight of the dirt will negate whatever fuel efficiency improvements you might get from it
65-55=10mph smaller and 55 is about max economy, so same fuel use with clay is anticipated.
12:13 would love this
03:38 What a missed opportunity of, instead of choosing a random 65, pick 88MPH.
😂 Epic car experiment. But there are a few problems with the alcohol experiment: alcohol neutralizing enzymes level rises after alcohol consumption, so their level might have been higher after the 1st test, so the alcohol in the 2nd test was neutralized faster, easing the hangover. Also, they didn't say they controlled for water consumption. Lastly, as every experiment involving humans, it should've been double-blind (not feasible here), to remove bias.
It really bothers me that they didn’t just do the clean car test first.
@stevo68
4 күн бұрын
I was a bit confused by that to.
Never let these two near any alcohol.
As far as I understand it, you actually want your car to be smpoth, but only have the point of separation (and a bit up the wind stream) in prder to reduce the drag. Or you can optimize the dimples for a specific speed so the turbulence is just right, then you can coat the entire front of the car sp it gets no flow drag over its surface.
I think, when it comes to the liquor+beer test, it's strictly about the fact, that human organism may absorb different alcoholic beverages in different rates. The tests before they went to sleep showed that they felt much more sober on liquor+beer than on beers only. Without the restrictions of the test, normal person would consume much more alcohol, because they'd feel fine for longer period of time.
Not only the dimpled car has a smaller and smoother wake, but look at the frontal and upper area. Less pressure over the hood, which is another turbulent, high pressure spot and causes the dreaded wind noise. I would gladly buy a dimpled car, no matter what the neighbours say. The result of this experiment should have shocked the automotive industry. Imagine having a dimpled surface but without all the extra weight of the clay. Even more efficient than the test.
@Nikagor
4 күн бұрын
Have fun cleaning out your dimples after every rainstorm, when you drive around with hundreds of little pedri dishes right above your head. Most liekly the increase in materialcosts and added thickness to even "install" the dimples might eat up any netgain you have.
Kari really enjoys tormenting the guys but immediately gets sent packing whenever Grant starts blowing chunks.
"how exactly do you dimple a full scale car..." oh? "...without ruining it?" aw...
I think that it would have worked even better with smaller dimples.
They should have tested their hangover after drining only liquor. As for the golf ball effect, 11% might be a huge difference for some, like lorries and goods transport. I wonder how that would work on train running off electricity, as well as for eletric vehicles. Actually, especially for those being given their poorer range.
Imagine doing a bunch of alcohol drinking tests and your phrase and premise is incorrect from the start. The real phrase is: "Beer BEFORE Liquor: You'll never be sicker. Liquor BEFORE Beer: You're in the clear." the phrase is order of drinking not whether mixing alcohol is worse.
i think grant was still drunk on the second test
Hilarious to see Grant this hammered 24:56
@PianoTechSupport
Ай бұрын
Right! I always liked him on this show. RIP Grant 🙏
After rewatching this episode, maybe I'll look at my dimpled plastic cladding on my WRX with less distaste for their look.
why dint they test clean car first?
@moczikgabor
Ай бұрын
How else could they have shown off how many car washes were required to clean off the spray "clayting" then? 😉
@bach_z
Ай бұрын
Who was supposed to clean it after the show then😂
@adamthomas1222
12 күн бұрын
Cause then they'd have to clean the car twice, cause the car was already dirty to begin with
We need dimpled cars
A while back I had the opportunity to buy a second hand car that had been through a severe hailstorm…. Now I’m thinking it may have been a good buy.
@justinweatherford8129
Ай бұрын
Not necessarily. I didn’t hear them say what they did to compensate for the weight of the clay that they removed from the car.
@kevinzhu5591
Ай бұрын
Welp, they put in inside the car afterwards.@@justinweatherford8129
@MrChazZen
Ай бұрын
Put in a tub and chucked it in the back of the car, its in the video.
Still, we don't have dimple cars in the road.