This is the most detailed description of owning a composting toilet on KZread. Totally honest and very thorough. Anyone considering buying one of these should watch this video. I have a box with a bucket toilet in my van. It must be emptied often, but dumping it is quick. There's very little cleaning and no maintenance.

Thank you for going beyond your comfort zone to teach us what we really needed to know. You did a very good job. Relax a bit because the only ones watching with this topic are adults so no need to be embarrassed or even so restrained in your speech.

@mmariemarkel7482

8 ай бұрын

Actually they do have to be a bit restricted in their speach because of the rules of KZread, I believe. There are certain nono words and topics that will makes them lose ad revenue if they violate, and they could potentially have the channel shut down if they have too many strikes. Peace❤

@dwighthires3163

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for this reminder.@@mmariemarkel7482

Thank you SO much for being SO honest and transparent!! Especially from the lady’s perspective!!

@outliersoverland

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Annie.

I wish you had discussed menstruation issues. Whether you use pads, tampons, or a menstrual cup, things get messy; esp if you have heavy periods. Do you empty the cup with the pee or poo? Or neither (separate compartment)? What about all the bloody wipes? Spray water bottle to rinse off with? This is reality and needs to be talked about. Even you male campers have female guests occasionally, so the topic WILL come up. Don't be squeamish, it's just another bodily function.

Thanks for being direct! Helpful addition -- off switch when clean and you are away!

Reality! What a concept. Great job guys. I have never in my life talked about poop so much as since I started RV'ing a few years back. lol I loved it when she started to blush while giving the girl's view. You kids are awesome. Enjoy!

@outliersoverland

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it.

lol y’all did a good job of explaining this and answering the questions people want to know. For ME…. This toilet would only be for an emergency use. I am notorious with cleaning and Id spend more time cleaning than anything. 😂 Thankyou both for being tastefully candid with some humor. This definitely is a not so comfy topic even though every one has to use the bathroom.

Am I the only one scratching my head about how these things handle period blood and why nobody ever covers that topic?

@outliersoverland

Жыл бұрын

It works just fine, I change the solids. bag as soon as I finish bc I find it smells a bit more from the TP. Otherwise, I don’t put tampons or pads in the solids bag, I throw them in the trash and we do just fine. We discussed after we finished this video, that it was a topic we forget to cover.

@courtneylancaster2663

Жыл бұрын

@@outliersoverland thanks! I know this is TMI but does the blood go into the solids or the liquids? 🧐 Like where are we aiming for with that

Good to know that you could vent it down

I really appreciate your breaking it up into sections *and* making the menu for jumping back and forth. Thank you for that little bit of very useful extra effort!

@dross24MA

2 жыл бұрын

P.S. In looking at the first "Lucy" videos, I still wonder about the little guy you didn't choose - wish you had been able to take them both...

@outliersoverland

2 жыл бұрын

All of Lucy’s siblings were adopted and her Mama too. We actually connected with the woman who adopted her Mom and let them meet each other on the beach in San Diego last summer!!

I love how honest you guys are keep it up - your more authentic and informative when you continue to be honest! That's why we love you safe travels!!!

@outliersoverland

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Chris. not everyone can handle honesty and reality.

Most comprehensive video on a touchy subject... Thank you very much. Super useful ;)

@outliersoverland

6 ай бұрын

Happy to help.

Thank you for your careful explanation of how to use Tiny.

@outliersoverland

3 ай бұрын

Happy to help.

You guys are hilarious! Very frank and informational video about a shitty process.🥴🤣 Your little snippets from movies were so funny-bet you had some good laughs putting this together. “Mr. One-Eye”…OMG, you crack us up, Ben!😆

@outliersoverland

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks I'm glad i successfully made a 22 minutes video about a toilet.

@Step12112011

Жыл бұрын

😂 you both are hilarious but right on point. Truly appreciate your context and delivery and showing from both gender views 😊

This is the first time that I feel comfortable saying thank you for talking a load of crap. Very brave and informative. Cheers!

Best 💩 video! Crystals, wow! You learn something every day. Thank you for sharing.

Funny episode. Thanks for stepping out of your comfort zone, really appreciate the content. thanks.

@outliersoverland

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Tandy. Glad you liked it.

Terrific video - thank you for going so in-depth. I'm convinced this is the best vanlife toilet currently available, although certainly not without its drawbacks. I do wish it was easier to clean, and waterproof so that a cover wouldn't be needed.

Best review ever! Lol, loved the humour of this video. Ha!

I think this was a very well-made video and great information for everyone! 😉

@outliersoverland

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Manny.

😂😂 hilarious review. Tears in my eyes. However great review as I’m choosing a waterless toilet for my campervan build right now. Thanks for the info and chuckles 🤭 😅

@outliersoverland

6 ай бұрын

Thank you. Glad you found it helpful. We are building a new camper and going with the Separett Tiny again.

a little white vinegar in the pee bottle takes care of smells and stops crystals forming.I'll be using a compost bin and using it around my trees - eventually. thanks all wonderful vlog really useful.

@outliersoverland

4 ай бұрын

We found vinegar not to be effective at stopping crystals, it does help with the smell though. *maybe we could have tried using more vinegar??? Thanks for watching.

@pa_maj.MARTINI-van-MAN

3 ай бұрын

@@outliersoverland Just chiming in, I hope you both don't mind. What I found works for preventing ammonia pee bottle smell is a squirt of bleach and around half a cup of water in the pee bottle and shake a little. Some people might not like to use bleach though, it's just a little and I'm fine with it...I haven't found anything else yet that works that's not chemical. I will try vinegar next as I don't have any level indicator to be concerned about, thanks 👍

Cleaning with a thyme base cleaner for disenfecting and tea tree oil base cleaner for stains etc has made all the difference for us. You can make your own or join a shopping club that makes these concentrates in the USA. Luv your details and sense of humor . Good info

This video was a true service to mankind. Very informative. I'm 90% sold on this unit but I want to see what peoples experience with roof venting is first. What a strange search history I am going to have today.

thanks for all that, I'm down to the 2 loos and this is the one I will be buying if I can get it without paying huge currency,taxes etc.

@outliersoverland

4 ай бұрын

It’s definitely the best toilet in our experience. *none are perfect and all have compromises…

Bowel movements like a hippocampus!!!! 😂😂😂

Thanks so much for the details on cleaning and emptying. Too many other vids seem to skip over this and yours really clarified things. I am about ready to install my Separate in my 5th wheel RV and have searched and searched for an installation vid specific to 5th wheels. If you have seen this, I sure would appreciate a link or at least the name of the account, thanks!

thanks for that vid. very helpful

Well I can apreciate 22 minutes of toilet talk. btw sounds like the best one out there. Last few videos were little to no scenery of where you are.. I hope we get to see exploring gorgeous beach, various scenery& the towns especially while in Spain.Big hugs to Lucy🐾 As always safe and happy travels😘

@outliersoverland

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks we try to offer a little bit of everything.

@ssue4q

2 жыл бұрын

@@outliersoverland 😘

very good review

This is a great video, thank you!!

@outliersoverland

11 ай бұрын

You’re very welcome. Glad you found it helpful.

thank you, just got mine

Thank you for this highly informative video.. You have confirmed my initial and post research, feelings and conclusions.. this solution is not for us. But We wouldn’t have that perspective without you two.

@outliersoverland

Жыл бұрын

Happy to help. I feel people have real questions about toilets and sometimes you just need to tell it as it is. Thanks for watching.

@jasonhuxley674

Жыл бұрын

Funnily enough, similar thoughts about the video but made us realise it is for us ;)

I saw a video where they skipped using the pee container & just connected a pipe to the urine diverter, then ran the pipe to their grey water tank. No more messing with the pee container all the time! Also they used a little kitty litter in the poo bag to help it be less gross when emptying.

@outliersoverland

2 жыл бұрын

Yes we have seen the urine diverters but decided it wasn’t for us with the nature of our grey tank disposing situation. We don’t want it smelling like piss when it gets dumped in all the unique places we visit.

@chriswiker9180

2 жыл бұрын

@@outliersoverland Hey guys, but unless you know better, wouldn't it be the case that as long as your grey water tank is big enough to absorb the urine - especially given that you do not have to devout any space to a black water tank - which means you could afford to devout more space to the grey water tank ie> calculate an appropriate size to handle it without smelling? you should be able to get away with it? No?

@outliersoverland

2 жыл бұрын

@@chriswiker9180 we dump our grey tank in a lot of places that are not formal dump stations and having it smell like urine wouldn’t be good.

@1nhonho

Жыл бұрын

@@chriswiker9180 Right. One would think the urine would be diluted by the soapy water.

That was a good one guys.

@outliersoverland

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Lawrence.

Thanks for posting this. This is insanely helpful with understanding the engineering. My only problem with all off the shelf designs I've seen so far, is that I've lived overseas for many years. Paper doesn't do it for me. I have to have a handheld bidet spray gun to clean up after, and that means completely waterless is not an option, unless I separate the process and do a shower rinse. I really think I want to design my own, with externally accessible tanks (like on many private jets) but there are many features of this one that are worth incorporating.

Interesting ... I like to know all the nitty gritty details about pooping in a van and this was one of then, thanks !

@outliersoverland

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Glenn, glad you liked it.

You guys have a really cool home and toilet too. Im wanting this exact shitter and hopefully i can order one this week

@outliersoverland

11 ай бұрын

Thank you.

I have this toilet, and this is a great video! I had the same issue with the pucks, but I just press them into the grey cage, and they have enough give that they will stay in place, and not fall apart. I wish there weren't as many nooks and crannies to clean, and I might consider getting a steam cleaner to help with that. Also, I wish the lid had a soft close feature! You'd think for such an expensive toilet they could have made the hinges soft close somehow....

You 2 are hilarious 🤣🤣🤣

😂👏 Well done talking about the toilet, I can tell you are uncomfortable with talking about it but definitely helps us know what it's like to have this one.

@outliersoverland

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Angie. Happy to help.

You didn’t discuss how to manage toilet paper. We’re sailors and have been using a airhead for a while. I agree with most of your comments, but….we only have to empty our poop bin once a month. Airhead offers two bins where you can let your poop compost while you use the other bowl. Finally our vent which sits on the transom of our yacht attracts flies, which we’ve found the biggest downside

I am like that hippo, or what we uses call a salad shooter! 🤷🙀😝

@outliersoverland

2 жыл бұрын

Then this is not a toilet for you. LOL

Great video. Loved it. 99.9% of rver get it. Thanks Don

@outliersoverland

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I'm glad you found a 22 minute video about my toilet entertaining! LOL

poop takes about a year or so to fully compost (to be safe for further use), so the composting toilet “output” should go to a compost for additional 11 and a half months. These Separett type toilets are doing about the same thing the “composting” toilets do. If you buy the compostable bags from Separett of other manufacturer, then you can put the whole bag into the compost. Well, in RV case you probably don’t as you are moving around ...

@outliersoverland

2 жыл бұрын

Ya, a compost pile in the camper doesn't sound like a good idea. LOL

We have one on a boat, the urine I pump overboard with a windscreen washer pump, and the solids and paper are basically a poo-in-a-bag set-up with the bag disposed responsibly. No composting occurs. Wet wipes are a good solution for cleaning after use, if required but the spray is something that we also use, after every use, a slightly acidic solution just to neutralise the urine residue. We have the fan set on a PIR triggered timer, that leaves the fan running for some 20 minutes after the person has left the bathroom which seems to work well and dries most of the moisture in the solids bag. Moisture is what causes smell. We have a decent charcoal filter on the vent outlet, haven't had any issues. Highly recommended. This unit replaced a Thetford cassette toilet which was also great to use but so ugly to empty.... public disposal points.... ewwww.... yellow rubber gauntlets and unwelcome splash-back are now all things of the past.

wait for it....BWAAAhahahahaha....well done guys, well done! This was truly informative and moving....see whut I dun thare?

@outliersoverland

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Glad you liked it!!!

Good review :) Although I'd still use an old 2L milk carton for man-pee, save on emptying the loo one as often, what I do with my chemical loo. Will one day go compost or separate though so appreciate the honest review.

@outliersoverland

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I prefer the wide mouth Gatorade bottles. LOL

We have been using a nature’s head for over a year. Interesting that the solids just go into a bag as we’re using coconut husk for medium. For the pee bottle we bought a spare, typically we let one bottle dish with hot water and oxyclean and it gets rid of a ton of staining and such

@outliersoverland

2 жыл бұрын

It's nice being able to just pull out a bag. A spare pee bottle is a good idea. Thankfully it is not hard to empty. Unlike the cassette you can take it into a regular bathroom without risking a huge mess.

Separett has been in the US for years now. I first learned about it watching Tiny house videos. Your model is new but not the brand. The Separett Villa was the original. Not sure if they still sell it but it has a hose you can divert to your grey tank, instead of a bottle.

Enjoying

@outliersoverland

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mike.

I do not leave the gray tray in its place since not using the puck. I also us a funnel ‘just incase’ to divert all urine to its proper place. I use orange oil and vinegar for cleaning and decrystalization. My issue was the venting…as my toilet is on a slider/drawer. Gorilla tape is my friend needless to say:)

Hilarious!! (while being informative!) 🙂

Excellent report. Thank you. I have a question 👋 Having used a cassette and now a separate, which do you prefer and why? Thanks

@outliersoverland

2 жыл бұрын

Hello. Good to hear from you. The answer to your question is location dependent. In the USA... It's far easier to find a place to dump your pee bottle every two day than it was to find a place to dump the cassette every three days. In Europe there are stations to dump cassette toilets everywhere. i (Ben) say the Separett Tiny wins in my book.

Drill a hole on the side and drain it to an outside bottle where you can monitor the level. I told Mikael, the owner of Separett, that this should be an issue.

Enjoy this Memorial day week,guys!🌄🌺🤗💕

@outliersoverland

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I hope you had a good holiday.

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

For people worried about poop in the trash, WELL WHERE DO YOU THINK BABY DIAPERS GO , WHERE DO BAGS OF DOG POO GO, WHERE DO ADULT DIAPERS GO " GET OVER IT " CHEERS AND SAFE TRAVELS Steve h.

Thanks so much. I am considering this toilet and this is the only longer-term review I found. If the Separett vented to the roof, do you think people would notice the smell while standing or sitting next to the vehicle?

@outliersoverland

2 жыл бұрын

You are welcome. I can not speak to the roof vent with any experience but I imagine it would be better as long as it's not near a vent.

@strollingbones-films

2 жыл бұрын

@@outliersoverland Why did you choose the Separett Tiny over a composter like the c-head? Are you happy with your choice?

Good to know as a guy that Mr. One Eye will be touching the pee area, that was a big question for me as a guy, it does not look very roomy in there.

Great vid. What is the size of your toilet/shower room?

@outliersoverland

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. 34x26

Hello thank you for another video. Is it toilet that mix poop with coconut? What do you do withe toilet paper? I struggle what to choose, separate or cassette toilet. Cassette it pain to empty it every day..

@outliersoverland

2 жыл бұрын

This is a different type of toilet than the composting. Coconut or moss is not necessary. We put the paper in the poo bag. We used to have a cassette and it would need to be emptied every 3 days.

Thank You for this rather Real look at an option for the normal RV holding tank type toilet . Can you also give us a look at the available options for a traditional holding tank toilet system. Does Europe have DUMP STATIONS similar to what is available in North America , and are they readily available in most towns , or do you really have to of out of the way to find THE ONE and only in a town , country , or region. Do most official campgrounds feature sites with sewer connections are they the few exceptions . What might be the average cost associated for dumping your black and grey tanks . THANKS CHEERS AND SFE TRAVELS Steve h.

@outliersoverland

2 жыл бұрын

You’re very welcome. You will be extremely inconvenienced with a tradition black tank in Europe, not saying it’s impossible, but it would not be fun. On the other hand there are actual cassette toilet dump stations everywhere.

@outliersoverland

2 жыл бұрын

This video shows an example of the cassette dump stations. Things in EUROPE you don’t see in AMERICA kzread.info/dash/bejne/g3uErdCriZiXZc4.html

Well that was a crappy video.lol. Get it. I've never heard of a toilet like that. Separating 1 and 2s. Very informative. Everytime we empty our toilet cassette from our caravan I'll be thinking of you guys emptying yours.

@outliersoverland

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much! If you have a cassette, you will probably enjoy our cassette toilet video.

@outliersoverland

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/YqRlt7arpK6uetY.html

Hi Guys i hope your travel around the UK

@outliersoverland

2 жыл бұрын

We are in Milton Keynes now and heading to the overland show this weekend. There’s a good chance we will be coming to Ireland for the summer.

@mikefortune4796

2 жыл бұрын

@@outliersoverland Hi Guys I look forward to meeting you if I can be of any help to you just let me know stay safe

@outliersoverland

2 жыл бұрын

We look forward to meeting you as well.

Friend looked it up for me in New York. You’re allowed to put poop in the garbage but you must double bag it.

I wouldn't worry about tossing a toilet bag in a trash can. Most important thing would be not throwing it on the ground somewhere (littering)

@outliersoverland

Жыл бұрын

I hate to be the person emptying that trash can if the poop bag tore open from something sharp in another trash bag….

Can you still use some compost matter in the solid container? I suppose you could also throw to down there too and not place it in a separate container.

@outliersoverland

9 ай бұрын

I supposed you could but it fills up quick when toilet paper is added to the bucket.

Hi Rebecca & Ben, are you still liking the Tiny Separette? And why did you not order it or install the urine tube to connect the liquid waste into your gray tanks?

@outliersoverland

8 ай бұрын

Hello. Yes we still like the Tiny. That being said all toilets have compromises but we like it better than the cassette toilet. I also have to add we view things as world travelers, outside of North America there’s no dump stations. The urine bypass was not available when we bought ours and I also don’t want our gray water smelling even worse. Here in Europe people would notice if our gray water smelt like piss as you drive over concrete pads with drains to dump. In the wild I also don’t object to dumping gray water on the ground and yes I dump pee in the bushes I’d rather not have pee smell under my truck. The vent shit smell is bad enough. Hope this helps.

@vantripping

8 ай бұрын

@@outliersoverland Thanks for your information share, much appreciated!

@vantripping

8 ай бұрын

@@outliersoverland Thanks much for sharing your experiences and thoughts. I'm thinking of installing the same toilet but with the urine tube to gray tank in my expedition camper build underway. I think that with enough dilution from the other water uses mixing into the tank with the urine that it may be almost unnoticeable.

Actually it was a pretty crappy video, you know why. Sorry guys I couldn't resist. Yes it is a curse have a sick sense of humor and no self control. That said it was informative and educational. Keep the good stuff coming guys.

@outliersoverland

2 жыл бұрын

How could you not make a few jokes about a topic like this?

Will you drop the brand name of the bags you use? Thank you!

@outliersoverland

Жыл бұрын

Since we travel we almost always get different brands of 30 liter bags. We always look for high quality bags though because the bottom tearing open upon lifting it out would be very shitty.

@Bellasafari

Жыл бұрын

@@outliersoverland lol trudat!

Did I miss something? What do they put the black bag to keep it from smelling for a week?

@outliersoverland

Жыл бұрын

We use the black bag for insurance in case there’s a hole in the white bag.

@jojosjoyfuljourney

Жыл бұрын

@@outliersoverland My question is, what do you put in the bag to keep it from smelling white or black?

@outliersoverland

Жыл бұрын

I don’t think there’s anything that could be put in the poop to make it not smell like poop, but with the exhaust fan creating negative pressure all the smell goes outside.

So am I understanding correctly, that there is not anything added to the poo bag? It seems to me that the odor that is forced out by the exhaust would be less offensive if some pine pellets were added, even once a day. Just a thought. I suppose that would be a personal choice thing.

@outliersoverland

2 жыл бұрын

Hello Tina, At this time we are not adding anything to the poo bag. We are tempted to try some type of powder or wood shavings to reduce the exterior smell. When we have company or want to sit outside we just empty the poo bag.

Do you use a medium over poo

What would you do with menstrual blood from a menstrual cup? Presumably in the liquids container and then rinse down?

@outliersoverland

6 ай бұрын

I put tampons on the solids side and I’d do the same with blood, bc then you have the exhaust fan so odor isn’t an issue. If you are rinsing it down the liquid side, I think it would fill up the liquid reservoir pretty quickly, but you could try both and see which works best for you. I think either is a viable option.

When I view these videos of complicated toilet situations, I always have the same question. Why not just do the Humanure system? It is dead simple, clean, no separation and no odor. I don't get it. Can you tell me your rationale behind not doing the Humanure system?

@pa_maj.MARTINI-van-MAN

3 ай бұрын

In a van/camper, one cannot store the waste long enough for composting to take place, plus it would still need a place to eventually be put which while travelling would be very difficult. This is what I've come to understand through others that have answered this question. If in a static home with a large garden, yes feasible.

@theshermano3000

3 ай бұрын

@@pa_maj.MARTINI-van-MAN The Humanure system CAN integrate with a composting situation. However, it doesn't have to. You can just put a plastic liner in a 5 gallon bucket and do your business until it gets to the point where it needs to be tossed. Then just tie up the bag (use compostable bags so it's not so hard on the environment) and just put it in any public garbage can. Easy peasy. The only drawback is you have to always have peat moss or wood shavings (sawdust) for the cover material. Otherwise, it will not work because the smell will be present if you don't cover it with that. We used that system to great effect for a long time in our off grid situation.

@pa_maj.MARTINI-van-MAN

3 ай бұрын

@@theshermano3000 Thanks. Yes, I understand that but I was really referring to the use of a 'proper' composting toilet in a van, it takes close to a year to make compost apparently and it still needs to be put somewhere eventually. I personally would use a Good liner in a bucket with a toilet seat (or something similar) and throw some horse pellets in to help dry things out and for smell. I pee in a 5 litre bottle with a squirt of bleach to stop that ammonia smell, recently I was informed that vinegar and a few drops of orange oil works great so I'll be trying that. Thanks again.

How much room is there for the man's hanging parts?

Do you put used toilet paper in toilet?

@outliersoverland

Жыл бұрын

Yes.

I don't know why people keep saying the myth that urine is sterile! I know a few people who works in laboratory and guess what, it is far from sterile.

How do you put dirty TP in the hole if it closes when you lift your butt off it?

@outliersoverland

2 жыл бұрын

It stays open as along as there’s pressure from your legs.

@pa_maj.MARTINI-van-MAN

3 ай бұрын

That's what I was wondering too, I stand and lean forward to clean, I never remain half seated. Inspection of the toilet paper after wiping is important so I know I'm clean enough...preferably use a baby wipe after that when necessary 😆

Seems gross to poop on top of someone else's poop or your own old poop.

Ah, poop.

So I know how men piss forward. I thought women piss down, how does it collect piss from women? I guess I am not knowledgeable on how women piss or is it different in each woman?

@outliersoverland

2 жыл бұрын

Well Todd…. I’m going to leave it up to you to figure this one out. Make sure to clear your browser history after searching. LOL

If a guy has good aim why couldn't he pee standing up? Asking for a friend.

@outliersoverland

Жыл бұрын

Splashes.

@CatBend

Жыл бұрын

@@outliersoverland Doesn't routine cleanup take care of minor splashes? After all there is no water to splash as in a wet toilet.

@outliersoverland

Жыл бұрын

Well yes, but when standing up and trying to piss into the front of the toilet, there’s going to be splashes. Splashes on the seat, not the rim, because there is no rim. Trust me I’ve tried but I end up bending my knees to reduce splashes. Depending on where we are and what resources we have available I’ve taken to using a pee bottle so once my wife is filling up the urine container. It’s easier to discreetly empty a pee bottle than the urine container.

@CatBend

Жыл бұрын

@@outliersoverland Thanks for the first-hand experience. I'm thinking that the option to drain into a 28-gal gray tank would solve the volume problem.

It is your own subjective opinion, If you don't want cleaning, You should using bucket system with wet sawdust. You may use your pee after diluted to watering tree and plants (you waste water - two times flushing and rinsing liquid container- itisn't eko). If that part of life it is that gross for you, stay in hotel and stop travel life. Have nice journey