The irony that all our friends and acquaintances who have independent labels, can’t avail themselves of slave labour like the conglomerates can, perfectly illustrates how unlustered , how “dead” luxury fashion has become.

@user-bg9ws7ys4k

Ай бұрын

Thank goodness for that....because that is called class...good materials, good quality workmanship and almost no labels ..

@ttc958

29 күн бұрын

It's bigger than fashion. The economic and political systems no longer work.. They never really did.

That was a great comment about the parasocial relationships with the brands. The corrosive, almost wicked power of conglomerate marketing… it convinced their customers of way too much.

I study business, but I find fashion fascinating so here are my takes: 1. "They make the company structure very complex and weird". Yes, that is correct. One example would be Porche which is actually 2 companies, both traded on the stock market. One is the car factory company, another is the holding company. The holding company also owns a part of Volkswagen. Because it's confusing, the stocks trade from time to time at wrong valuations (say the factory company is trading higher than the holding company, despite the holding company essentially having more assets). Second example would be Johnson& Johnson that wanted to get out of a cancer lawsuit by splitting the company into 2. One with liabilities and 1-2 brands, one with everything else (factories, workers etc). 2. Yes,companies have lawsuit money per year in their budgets. One obvious examples are banks. Every year HSBC and Deutsche Bank get fine for money laundering, they just pay the fine and move on. The cost is included in their card taxes and etc. 3. I live in the Eastern EU. For that reason my country is between wester values - equality and meritocracy and eastern values - respect for elders and conformity. I worked really hard and was also lucky during some moments. So I managed to hold an unnaturally high position in the company (for my age) and get into social circles that generally have a higher net worth than me and are older. In order to see like I fit in, I buy the "usual luxury" and wear it during events in those circles. I hunt it down in the thrift shops and learned how to condition leather and make it look slightly newer, I have a seamstress that adjusts sizes to fit me, etc. I could not care less for Chanel or Dior, I just need their brand on me to fit in where I actually don't have a place. On my birthday, I allow myself to get the luxury I want so I usually buy from local brands. They are so much more interesting. Imagine the position I am in - I go to that fancy event, I have a mix of classic luxury on me and some accesories from the local unknown brands and I sort of fit in, but people compliment me only on what's from the unknown guys. Bonus to the story: the Danish leaders from a company I worked from came to visit. The majority of them wore plain black tshirts and jeans. They could not care less about flaunting things. It's only when I meet the local leaders, the British ones and the Americans when I have to reach for that expensive dress and bag. I believe this is why they sell so much in Asia.

@equilibrium-stayFree

25 күн бұрын

You really write perfectly in English. What country are you from; Polen? I live in Italy. But I'm originally from Sweden.

Keep calling out these brands for supporting unethical supply chains. Keeping the pressure on will make a difference in the future

"If you talk about worker exploitation then people comment that you're broke" Damn, such a "let them eat cake statement". I wonder how much money do those people have? Crazy

Luxury could sell at those high prices, use ethical labor, and still make a profit. But no, they wanted to have profits at all costs, by making sub standard products and slave labor. It's the former however that will destroy them, because sadly most people don't care about the labor, but they care that their paying for expensive crap. The labels which will be the most successful which are ethical and expensive, which is what luxury should really be.

@Cosmicacidtrip1

16 күн бұрын

greed

CALL FOR AN LVMH BOYCOTT

@Shh_kult

Ай бұрын

🎉

Old Houses are going under because they pushed out us underground designers for years and now we dominate the industry to the point they now rip off our designs. Kind of how the independent record labels started their own labels and now they make up more than half of the music industry.

The attitude in USA about poor = lazy is ingrained since 1600s when the Puritans started arriving. That concept was a Puritan creed. At the time, it was “rebellious” against the English aristocracy who weren’t working (as usual) and it was a kind of “right to work” doctrine. Needless to say the concept is totally divorced from its original context now. And it’s a shame that people unthinkingly believe it.

@ruby3040

Ай бұрын

This is why US schools are always trying to defund social science and history education. If people read Manufacturing Consent or learn about the Puritan work ethic curse, America will face a reckoning.

Also regarding companies and morals. It was this sweet looking lady, she has been a financial leader at a bank for years. And you know, banks have the strictest rules against international bribing of all the industries. And the lady slipped and said "oh well you have to think that you either do business in a country or you don't. It's a local custom and you adapt to it" Nobody from the other experienced folks had any reaction to that so it was just natural. They had money for bribes somewhere in their budgets. Wild

Finally. We've done documentaries about this situation already 17 years ago. If this is true it's about time.

what the heck is going on? I didn't get notification of this live. Glad I can watch the replay, though. Thanks for that! And I completely agree (and will be quoting you..."I run on the assumption that corporations have no good graces." Period. My thoughts are it's workers and consumers that must, in a semi-coordinated effort, have our demands for good care and great practices for us all, met. This has to happen whilst giving grace for our local and global capacities.

Can we please get a cut down video of the highlights here? Can’t do this length.

@FashionRoadman

Ай бұрын

I will do!

The thing about prison labor and clothing factories in the US is true. Instead of having proper factories and paying workers, the brands opt for the greedy route. But, not all prisoners are in these clothing manufacturing programs. Those who want to make money are involved. A prisoner who doesn't have income (or outside financial support from family or friends. And in some prisons the amount of these contributions is very restricted) struggles in prison just to have enough food. You'd be shocked at how minimal the daily diet is of the corporate prison system (esp the federal prisons and the commissary charges 4X the price for disgusting and unhealthy packaged foods) because of capitalist greed. Recently, I had a flatmate who was wrongly convicted of illegal drug possession at 17 (this was decades ago) and sent to a federal prison for a year.

@FashionRoadman

Ай бұрын

Oh wow it’s so sad this happens, I hope they have a huge prison reform bill passed soon

I wonder if Loro Piana got called out in Italy for their LATAM exploitation

The glasses are handsome.

@FashionRoadman

Ай бұрын

Thanks ❤️

Did anybody read Gomorra by Roberto Saviano about the extension of Italian mafia in all Europe? The part about fashion is appalling. It is all connected. Great read.

Just seeing this in print is a step in the right direction for conscious fashion ethics. Brand representative is too scared to talk until they meet with a battery of legal counsel.

35:38 This irony is hilarious to me too 😂. On what Earth does it make sense to rather pay out millions worth of lawsuits, rather than do the right thing?! 🙃

I think if enough people find these practices of exploiting workers and consumers abhorrent, it may just become culturally uncool to wear these labels in the future.

100% agree with you, Ayo, about Afrikaans likely being racist!😂

omg

46:43 How is exploitation being defined here? is it literally just selling something for more money than you paid to make it? Of course companies paying people nominal wages is exploitation. But ig the comment just seemed more political than actual analysis. I'm somewhat uneducated in the manufacturing practices so if im wrong someone please educate me.