Different Swords in the Medieval Islamic World (WITH COMBAT!)

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In todays video, we have Nicholas on the channel who will bring us his insight about medieval Islamic Swords. It's myth busting, engaging with combat at the end!
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Images
. Michel Bakni - This file was derived from: Al-Kindi stamp, Egypt (1975).jpg
. illustration of "the horse's good points", 13th-century manuscript of Kitāb al-bayṭara by Aḥmad ibn ‘Atīq al-Azdī (ms. Or 1523, foll. 22v-23r).
. The Performance of a Crusade Play at King Charles V\’s Feast (detail), Master of the Coronation of Charles VI, Paris, about 1375-80. From Great Chronicles of France (Grandes chroniques de France). Bibliothèque nationale de France, Paris. Ms. fr. 2813, fol. 473v
. Gentile Bellini - The Yorck Project (2002) 10.000 Meisterwerke der Malerei (DVD-ROM), distributed by DIRECTMEDIA Publishing GmbH. ISBN: 3936122202.
. An inhabited initial from a 13th-century French text representing the tripartite social order of the Middle Ages: the ōrātōrēs (those who pray - clerics), bellātōrēs (those who fight - knights, that is, the nobility), and labōrātōrēs (those who work - peasants and members of the lower middle class).

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  • @BorninPurple
    @BorninPurple2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for having me on, it was a pleasure! Edit: I have a few corrections: 1) I mention "Medieval French" when talking about Orientalism, this should have been "Early Modern" (just a minor word change but both mean different things completely!) 2) Ibn Mangli references that 'qaljuri' swords (edge-and-a-half swords) have points, however straight double edged swords were blunt at the tip (apologies, this was a mis-read on my part). I have the French translation of Ibn Mangli's hunting treatise which reads: Pour l'onagre, je ne connais guère d'efficace que la pourfente obtenue avec la sabre qilijûrî qui est le nôtre, à nous memlouks, car le sabre bédouin n'a pas, lui, de ponte rectiligne à double trachant (dhubaba) por éventrer. Translation: For onagers, I do not know much about the effectiveness of the qilijuri sword that we have, for us Mamluks, because the Bedouin sword does not have a rectilinear (straight or wide angle) double-edged point (dhubaba) to get into it. 3) Skanderbeg duelled a Tatar in front of Murad II where he cut off his head (so it wasn't an execution). 4) The classical period in the Medieval Arab/Islamic world would most likely have been in the Abassid period with the establishment of classical learning. 5) Orientalism is focused on the "East" and not just the Middle East/Islamic World.

  • @GoldenMiddleAge

    @GoldenMiddleAge

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the collaboration!

  • @AlexanderGent

    @AlexanderGent

    2 жыл бұрын

    Interesting discussions guys. I've just come across your channels, been interested in this subject for a while.

  • @BorninPurple

    @BorninPurple

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@AlexanderGent ​Hi, thanks for your comment. Apologies I must not have seen this. To respond to your comment before it was edited (as the pre-edited one displays in my notifications), please let me know if you would like to collaborate. I've sent you an email.

  • @chrisnewhard5863
    @chrisnewhard5863 Жыл бұрын

    Loving the videos so far! A few critiques, though: having some trouble trying to imagine these designs, so having a few more visual examples of the items you mention would be great to make the content more easily accessible. In addition, I've noticed that your shots are well exposed (not too light/bright, not too dark), but some of the shots are suddenly brought out-of-focus. I think you could benefit from manually adjusting your aperture so the depth-of-field stays more consistent, and we can see things like the writing on your sword better. However, this would likely also mean that you would also have to adjust your shutter speed and ISO. It can be a bit daunting to step away from the camera's automatic controls, but learning to master the "exposure triangle" can significantly increase the visual quality of the filming. It also leaves less to do during editing and post-processing. Nonetheless, I really appreciate your content so far. As someone majoring in both digital storytelling and middle east studies, your videos are really helping me move away from my reliance on Orientalist clichés when approaching these concepts and iconography. Keep it up! Really want to see where this channel goes!

  • @dlatrexswords
    @dlatrexswords2 жыл бұрын

    Gentlemen, this is a great discussion and demonstration! Please keep it up. Thank you so much for detailing some of the sources and descriptions for arms we have from the Abbasid era! When you were describing the different types of swords as listed by Hizam, I'm curious if any of the categories included qarachur and qaljuri? I am trying to bring together the terms with Samanid finds from Nishapur.

  • @kaitlin1347
    @kaitlin13472 жыл бұрын

    This is really interesting! Hearing about the texts that describe the sword-fighting moves and techniques is very cool! When Nicholas is talking about a lack of translation of some of the texts, what language(s) are those texts in?

  • @GoldenMiddleAge

    @GoldenMiddleAge

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! From my understanding, the Furussiya treatise are in Arabic

  • @IPostSwords
    @IPostSwords2 жыл бұрын

    I enjoyed the discourse about non existent "scimitars" in this. Very much so the consequence of orientalism and wilful ignorance on behalf of historical tourists.

  • @GoldenMiddleAge

    @GoldenMiddleAge

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Yes there are misconceptions about 'scimitars'

  • @MrBottlecapBill

    @MrBottlecapBill

    Жыл бұрын

    @@GoldenMiddleAge I'm wondering if the misconception is actually based on executioners type swords of the era which are usually much more robust as they're not meant to fight with, just do a lot of damage in one stroke.

  • @greghenrikson952
    @greghenrikson9522 жыл бұрын

    Great channel! I haven't found a good discussion of these topics since Dr. Khorasani's lectures at WMAW.

  • @GoldenMiddleAge

    @GoldenMiddleAge

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @aripson
    @aripson Жыл бұрын

    This is really good!

  • @richardmcarthur8568
    @richardmcarthur8568 Жыл бұрын

    Very informative.

  • @kaitolumiere3066
    @kaitolumiere30662 жыл бұрын

    Another brilliant video! Learned so much about the swords and how they were used. Hey do you mind if I reference your stances and moves in my manga? 😂

  • @GoldenMiddleAge

    @GoldenMiddleAge

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Yes of course go for it :)

  • @kaitolumiere3066

    @kaitolumiere3066

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@GoldenMiddleAge Shukran khayye!

  • @fisheye9559
    @fisheye95592 жыл бұрын

    This os super interesting, thank you. Only 108 views, very surprising.

  • @GoldenMiddleAge

    @GoldenMiddleAge

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @alomaralsulaiman6501
    @alomaralsulaiman65012 жыл бұрын

    Keep going guys.

  • @GoldenMiddleAge

    @GoldenMiddleAge

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @ajithsidhu7183

    @ajithsidhu7183

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@GoldenMiddleAge please do on talwars and khands

  • @ajithsidhu7183

    @ajithsidhu7183

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@GoldenMiddleAge also martial arts used

  • @ajithsidhu7183

    @ajithsidhu7183

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@GoldenMiddleAge please do on ethnic punjabi influences in the armies of arabia

  • @GoldenMiddleAge

    @GoldenMiddleAge

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ajithsidhu7183 I will research about this

  • @adil_ali8855
    @adil_ali88552 жыл бұрын

    Assalamualikum plz make a video on Medieval Islamic head gear plz 🙏🙏 from India 🇮🇳🇮🇳

  • @GoldenMiddleAge

    @GoldenMiddleAge

    2 жыл бұрын

    Will look into it

  • @ottomanswords
    @ottomanswords2 жыл бұрын

    Congratulations, I recommend you to do more offensive and defensive positions in other videos. Moreover, some swords are more accurate for attack, while others are more advantageous for defense. Different exercises with different kinds of swords would be great :)

  • @GoldenMiddleAge

    @GoldenMiddleAge

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much, I will research about your recommendation

  • @jorgemasvidal7566
    @jorgemasvidal75662 жыл бұрын

    Thank for telling that the early swords was stright

  • @GoldenMiddleAge

    @GoldenMiddleAge

    2 жыл бұрын

    No worries

  • @ebonytv3414
    @ebonytv3414 Жыл бұрын

    And what swords did the moors and African Muslims use or don’t they count.

  • @user-sn9ql3kv4y
    @user-sn9ql3kv4y7 ай бұрын

    Barely any images of weapons

  • @elshebactm6769
    @elshebactm67692 жыл бұрын

    🤠👍🏿

  • @GoldenMiddleAge

    @GoldenMiddleAge

    2 жыл бұрын

    🙏

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