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@agnishchaudhuri6579

3 жыл бұрын

interesting

@fuju7871

3 жыл бұрын

I think Shakespeare was Shakespeare. I think I'm onto something!

@yoprzyt8267

3 жыл бұрын

Hmm

@shadowrodney

3 жыл бұрын

you put 4th where you said 5th Abraham Lincoln my man ^^

@basharathhussainmohammed5585

3 жыл бұрын

Third time requesting for you to make a vid on how to make a child prodigy.

History Channel: He's an alien.

@vinylbuff1515

3 жыл бұрын

Ancient astronaut theorists say, yes

@aceundead4750

3 жыл бұрын

Im not saying it was aliens, but it was aliens.

@rancidpitts8243

3 жыл бұрын

I believe that. It could have happened. Prove me wrong.

@seyamrahman1002

3 жыл бұрын

@@rancidpitts8243 prove yourself right first

@HexagonNightmare

3 жыл бұрын

@@vinylbuff1515 I have found my people

If his father was a very good glover, he might have attracted a clientele of nobles who needed special occasion gloves for their various sports and pursuits such as the falconry, hunting, polo and the like.

@feralbluee

3 жыл бұрын

good thinking!! :}

@user-wi3yx3gy2o

3 жыл бұрын

Lots of common people had close relationships with nobles, including children. And this is a time of the rise of the bourgeoisie. Goldsmiths were the first bankers. He could have been a very wealthy glover, more of a banker or a rentier than a glover, for all we know. If you can afford it, you can hire a quality tutor. It’s also not a complete impossibility that he was educated privately with wealthy noble children. Wealthy noble families often had slightly lower stationed children, even the children of servants and tenants, as schoolmates for their own children.

@robertwilloughby8050

3 жыл бұрын

His father was Mayor of Stratford at one time. So yes, Will did come from quite a family.

@AnastaciaInCleveland

3 жыл бұрын

IIRC, Shakespeare's father got into trouble when he went into the wool trade without a license which ruined the family financially and socially. I think that Shakespeare was a young teenager at the time. This would have ended his education a bit prematurely. He struggled for a while before marrying his wife, Anne, who had a little money. It is my belief that Shakespeare had the talent, but he needed a wealthy patron like Edward DeVere, Earl of Oxford. Oxford could have provided information about court life, Italy, and the Greek and Roman classics. ~ Anastacia in Cleveland

@robertwilloughby8050

3 жыл бұрын

@@AnastaciaInCleveland Yep, that's pretty much right, and your theory about him needing a wealthy patron is similar to my theory that although Shakespeare definitely wrote Shakespeare, he had a (please excuse the slip in indelicacy here, but I can't think of a better intensifer!) metric SHITTONNE of editorial help from his friends and contemporaries. And it's probably likely he had both.

Man has haters 400 year After his life, that's how good he was 💯💯💯

@robertmitchell2901

Жыл бұрын

Goals

@mqnm

Жыл бұрын

Hitler

@TREVASLARK

Жыл бұрын

Haters and lovers, no in-between. That's greatness !

@tedturner03

Жыл бұрын

You are wrong - simply WRONG!

@sylvershelley8595

Жыл бұрын

bro you clearly did not watch the video

What always amazed me about Shakespeare was not his lack of education, but the fact that he wrote so many lengthy masterpieces in such a short amount of time. So I always thought he had some kind of team working for him, like other great Renaissance artists. (Leonardo Da Vinci, Michelangelo etc.)

@Jeffhowardmeade

2 жыл бұрын

He had a head start in that he was actually adapting other writers' stories for the stage.

@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis

Жыл бұрын

@@Jeffhowardmeade besides ‘Romeo and Juliet’, ‘Taming of the Shrew’ is another example of this. His adaptations frequently improved upon past versions, or at least changed them.

@ekinersoy3002

Жыл бұрын

Well, in most of his plays he used other literary texts as a source. For example; the original source for Romeo and Juliet is a narrative poem called The Tragical History of Romeus and Juliet by Arthur Brooke. There is a strong possibility that Brooke himself translated the poem from an Italian work. There are some differences between Shakespeare's and Brooke's works but the main storyline is the same. For Hamlet, there are more than one source but most important one is Amleth which is mentioned in Gesta Danorum by Saxo Grammaticus which translated as the "Deeds of the Danes" Macbeth and King Lear is inspired by Holinshed's Chronicles, but it differs storywise. Holinshed himself inspired by Historia Regum Britanniae (The History of the Kings of Britain) by Geoffrey of Monmouth. Othello is most likely an adaption of Un Capitano Moro (A Moorish Captain) by Cinthio. Antony and Cleopatra and Julius Caesar's plots are based on Plutarch's Lives. Maybe he didn't write the plots of most of his tragedies he made many changes in the plots. And many english scholars often argues that even if someone named William Shakespeare didn't exist, it would made no difference because the written work is what counts. Whatever it is, the only thing matters is someone wrote these masterpieces.

@ahsimiksnabac6576

11 ай бұрын

yep! you got it mate, Bill Spear_person, was most likely a gang.

@pvuccino

10 ай бұрын

@@garyallen8824 Well it's not only the quantity that puzzles me, but the quality as well. I haven't read any other poet from that time period to know if that was a common thing back them, but as an actor myself I HAVE read and acted in quite a lot of Shakespeare's plays and they're simply sublime!

Anyone else notice that when he said “fifth Abraham Lincoln” he had “4. Abraham Lincoln” on screen instead though.

@DeadlyDAssassin

3 жыл бұрын

Literally i just said the same thing not too long ago lol.

@leonharness8892

3 жыл бұрын

But did you notice he changed his shirt half way through the video?

@dvd11811

3 жыл бұрын

Yes.

@riteshyeddu9186

3 жыл бұрын

Good observation

@smallymccarthy8590

3 жыл бұрын

@@leonharness8892 but did you notice he had no Moustache at 16:34

*Plot twist: William really wrote all of those but he has an alien friend that taught him everything*

@garlic5955

3 жыл бұрын

.

@billspooner3792

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@Gribbics

3 жыл бұрын

Paul????

@jdb47games

3 жыл бұрын

The History Channel will surely come up with a 'documentary' that 'proves' this.

@Martin-tv7hr

3 жыл бұрын

This could make sense if you switched alien for a noble who taught Shakespeare all the things he knew .

We must remember, literacy was rare and phonetics were widely used by scribes. Finding a name spelt in multiple ways is extremely common. I have a copy of a marriage certificate from my family in the 1800's. Our surname is spelt 5 different ways on the single page. There were other ways to learn writing than a formal education in those days.

@DudeitsVero

Жыл бұрын

Cool

@Frankie5Angels150

Жыл бұрын

Spelled.

@furryblue6377

Жыл бұрын

@@Frankie5Angels150 Australian. Until the explosion of US dominated instant internet, we were taught spelling as laid out in the Oxford Dictionary, and still argue with all our modern technology based on American English daily that it is colour, neighbour, realize, doughnut, en masse, and that grammar and punctuation are relevant to all aspects of written communications. It is not wise to correct a person who correctly uses the original version of the language yours has been created from. I am not obliged to modify mine, just because another country has chosen to modify it to their own and forget the beautiful combination of a dozen ancient languages it was derived from itself.

@breckhollis1089

Жыл бұрын

Yes, spelling and grammer were...flexible in those days. And stil is to an extent. ( Lite beer anyone?). But in Elizabethian London, literacy was NOT rare, on the contrary. Licensed printers did a roaring business. Self improvement books, DIY books, motivational books were very popular. And plays. It should be noted that during his lifetime, and for many, many years afterwards, no one questioned that Shakespear the actor was also Shakespear the playwright. Not his audience, nor his patrons, nor his fellow playwrights.

@vhawk1951kl

7 ай бұрын

Who told you that "literacy was rare and phonetics were widely used by scribes", and why do you believe them? It can only possibly be supposition or guesswork, since nothing can be known - directly immediately personally experienced about the past, and it is in the nature of men(human beings that if A whom they suppose to be an authority says one thing and B says the same thing- none of what either A or B says being verifiable, men(human beings) will swear blind that it is so and could not possibly be otherwise, or they tend to accept without question or believe everything they are *told*, depending on their breeding and learning, and many of them cannot tell the difference between knowledge(direct immediate personal experience), and belief nor can differentiate between knowledge and information or have any idea that there is a difference. Some of the creatures even suppose that they can be given or*told* knowledge, as if they could experience for themselves what they are *told*.Seemingly they will *believe *because* they simply cannot verify or directly immediately personally, passive acceptance without question being better than nothing and of course they can be programmed or conditioned or as they themselves say, educated, passively to accept without question .

Dude was a time traveler who used an advanced form of chatgpt. "Write the best Elizabethan era plays" and voila.

To be Shakespeare, or not to be Shakespeare; that is the question.

@SpaceCattttt

3 жыл бұрын

Oh, shut up.

@shaqatakks2499

3 жыл бұрын

@@SpaceCattttt 🧂

@lmaopew

3 жыл бұрын

More like, to exist or not to exist

@narutohuntmendemon6354

3 жыл бұрын

@@lmaopew same as to be or not to be

@seakeri6490

3 жыл бұрын

oh SHUT UP!!!!!

The son of a glover eh? Who exactly could afford to have luxury items like gloves made for them back then? One of the main things needed for falconry? A good glove. William may not have been a noble but his father's job would have put him in contact with the upper class society.

@jen30551

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. I had a similar thought while watching the video. Those who serve and outfit the rich know them quite well. My father only has a high school education but he is an extremely talented rock mason. He has long worked for clients that are among the richest in the world. Over time you learn something about how they operate.

@echomcclellan7079

3 жыл бұрын

True. Very true.

@silverstream5140

3 жыл бұрын

Sound logic, because modern elites include their plumber and landscaper in their social activities

@stella-vu8vh

3 жыл бұрын

SilverStream Situationally, possibly. Have you ever had to take an in person meeting while getting fit for a suit or some other task?

@tdegrddeehjgd

3 жыл бұрын

@@jen30551 well, you must be the next Bard by that logic. Where can I read your complete works?

Leonardo da Vinci had no formal education beyond apprenticeship was not born into nobility yet was one of the most learned creative geniuses in history

@dirremoire

Жыл бұрын

Apprenticeship was a very rigorous form of education.

@arealphoney

3 ай бұрын

Yes. Leonardo was a creative genius. He learned literacy from his adorong grandfather who kept journals. Leonardo's journals are famous. His uncle Francesco encouraged his scientific learnng. His father realised his talent for drawong and moved his business from Vinci to Florence to further Leonatdo"s education at the finest workshop in the wealthy city of Flirence. The dkills Leonardo was taught included drawing from Life. I.e looking closely at the human form. at animals, plants and objects, and putting them down in clesr lines with the correct proportions He also learnt mathematical perspective drawing, particularly of interiors. Leonardo learnt the chemistry of paints, some ofcwhich were very poisonous. He lesrnt how to make figures and plaques in clay, fire them and volour them. He learnt casting in bronze. He learnt to make wooden chests and all sorts of ephemera for theatrical productions. He had access to a collection of tools, including hoists, pulleys and all sorts of equipment invented and used to create the largest dome of its kind in the world. AND he was very very observant and a habitual recorder of what he saw. Leonardo, and his skills can be accounted for by two things, his training, and his personal powers of observation. We know pretty well what he learnt, because others learnt it as well, and became master painters. We ALSO know exactly what he OBSERVED because he recorded these things in detail. How did he know about light? He LOOKED experiment, made drawings and recorded findings. This same formula applies to anatomy, geology. botany. Flight geometry, etc In other words. Leonardo WAS indeed a genius, but we can account for evrry aspect of his learning. And he was not PRIMARILY a writer. Shakespeare was a writer, who did not keep a journal, did not write home to wife or children, whose education does Not match his scholarship. Did not leave notes or records of interests or studies, did not visit the places he wrote about, did not mix in the circles he describes. Whose vast body of writingvdoes NOT have parallels with the life he led, and even when he wrote love poems, scholars CANNOT match his sonnets to any kniwn event or attachment.... leaving even Stratfordians to think that they are just poems that hsve a theme and create a nsrrative. Personally, i cannot believe that the sonnets are NOT biogrsphical ..... but they are plainly not the biography of William Shsksper from Strstford upon Avon.

@arealphoney

3 ай бұрын

I csnt see to type very well. Please excuse typos

@thesardonicpig3835

2 ай бұрын

The problem isn't that Shakespeare couldn't have acquired all of that knowledge and education - it's that we have zero records that he did.

@vhawk1951kl

22 күн бұрын

Who told you that"Leonardo da Vinci had no formal education beyond apprenticeship," and why do you believe them? Just naturally credulous? No-one could possiblty *know* that "Leonardo da Vinci had no formal education beyond apprenticeship," because it is impossible to directly immediately personally expereience (as directly immediately peronally as pain)*Anything* about the past, that be no just axiomatic but so blleding obvious that a small child could tell you it. That mixture of gossip and hearsay that men(human beings/dreaming machines) call hisrory is a matter of the*exact_opposite of knowledge or direct immediate personal experience (as directly immediately personally as pain) *Belief*. Ford was spot on history is not only bunk it is-for-all-practical-purposes, little more than belief about what may or may not have happened before Now, which it is aximatic, cannot be known- directly immediate personally experienced (as directly immediately personally as pain) Neither you nor anyone can directly immediately personally experience*anything-at-all*about Leonardo da Vinci; that is surely axiomatic.

Many notable people came from unspectacular beginnings. Alan Turing's father was the son of a clergyman who worked in the Indian Civil Service. His mother was the daughter of the chief engineer of the Madras Railways. Their son became a mathematician, computer scientist, cryptanalysis, philosopher and theoretical biologist. I have come to the conclusion that when we are fortunate enough to have children, we get what we are given!

"the greatest writer" "Swagger" Something doesn't add up here.

@baldpusheengrohl

3 жыл бұрын

the exaggerated swagger of an english playwriter

@jonathanntulume9298

3 жыл бұрын

The true Shakespeare Emilia Lanier Check her out

@takingtheshot9830

3 жыл бұрын

Justin Bieber's ego

@venglomarci

3 жыл бұрын

What do you mean. That is the exact reason.

@scotthullinger4684

3 жыл бұрын

@John Barber - Greatness often isn't realized or acknowledged until several centuries after the fact. I'd say in MOST cases, actually.

QI summarized it perfectly: they couldn't handle someone not posh writing this, so they came up with a silly conspiracy

@annaclarafenyo8185

3 жыл бұрын

It's not a silly conspiracy, Marlowe obviously wrote the works, Shakespeare and Marlowe's writing is indistinguishable.

@serinadelmar6012

3 жыл бұрын

@@annaclarafenyo8185 😂

@annaclarafenyo8185

3 жыл бұрын

@@serinadelmar6012 You need to read the statistical analyses, and also read the works. I doubt you will be able to tell apart the author of the Henry VI cycle from the author of Edward II. Marlowe is very distinctive, and has a thunderous line that nobody except his roommate Kyd could copy, and even then, Kyd didn't do it nearly as well. He is obviously the author, even before the mathematical comparison of the style markers made it certain.

@serinadelmar6012

3 жыл бұрын

@@annaclarafenyo8185 read the works? it’s in doing just that and having a deep love for history, especially the rivalry between these playwrights, and indeed Shakespeare’s propensity to steal (all the best artists steal), that makes your point work for the defence.

@annaclarafenyo8185

3 жыл бұрын

@@serinadelmar6012 It is impossible to "steal" from Marlowe, and no artist who takes the voice of another is ever successful. This is just stupid people trying to blind you to the obvious authorship. You've been had, sucker.

It is a curious case - I did a little bit of research into the Shakespeare authorship question a while back. He likely had almost inherent genius, and was reasonably well educated, despite humble beginnings. His father was moderately successful in business as a textile seller. His family weren't paupers. So he would have gone to a decent school. Shakespeare was referenced in surviving documents from the time he was alive as a successful actor and a playwright by both supporters and critics. Thats indisputable. Thoughty2 didn't really say that here.. Maybe Shakespeare had an assistant or advisor that helped with ideas here and there? Other than that he was a real historical figure and author of the works attributed to him.

@paulthrutner9114

2 жыл бұрын

When you say "research" you actually mean you "googled"

@rachelcookie321

Жыл бұрын

@@paulthrutner9114 google is a way to research stuff.

@lilricebowl9731

Жыл бұрын

@@paulthrutner9114 as long as you use good and trusted sources, google research is real research, you just have to fact check

@AllTheRain

Жыл бұрын

@@paulthrutner9114 where do you think Thoughty2 starts his research on topics??

@kiebahow442

Жыл бұрын

@@AllTheRain an ouija board

I’m a musician and I know plenty of people who do not read music, have had no formal training and have no musical relatives, who have taught themselves to play multiple instruments and write very good songs. I even have a friend who was writing fantasy novels as a young teenager. So, native talent happens and there are many artists, musicians, writers and poets, who have come to prominence despite their birth circumstances.

To celebrate Shakespeare's birthday this year, McDonalds are launching a new burger... ...called the McBeth.

@christopherstaffordd

3 жыл бұрын

😐

@charliemilton438

3 жыл бұрын

MacBeth*

@christinearmington

3 жыл бұрын

😆🤦‍♀️👍

@serinadelmar6012

3 жыл бұрын

Shush! don’t mention the Scottish Mac!

@williamshakespeare6329

3 жыл бұрын

@@charliemilton438 McBeth because it’s McDonald’s and “Mc” has to go before everything

Actually there is evidence that Shakespeare did write his own plays. Ben Jonson, a contemporary dramatist of Shakespeare's, was a close friend and great admirer of Shakespeare and his work. And wrote about his admiration. So, yes he did write his own plays. The problem with these people is just out and out snobbery. They cannot believe that anyone but the well to do with a university education could be the author of these plays. But this snobbery extended to more modern times. During the 60s one British music teacher said that that John Lennon and Paul McCartney could not have written their songs because their level of education was not high enough and therefore Brian Epstein their manager must have written the music because he went to a public school. This idea collapse in 1967 when Epstein died but Lennon and McCartney still wrote songs.

@frankjaeger393

3 жыл бұрын

Yes but the real Paul McCartney died in 1966 maybe he was the true writer.

@garethjones2596

3 жыл бұрын

It is interesting that the anti-straffordian argument arose in the nineteenth century when class snobbery was at its height. Consider that Sir Walter Raleigh, Queen Elizabeth, Sir Philip Sidney, and the Earl of Rochester among other aristocrats were unashamed of having literary talent. Only in the nineteenth century did aristocrats become much too aristocratic to have intellect.

@tallyboyle9148

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. I always find it amusing to point out that as the son of a glove maker... he included references to glove making or glove makers technical terms in every one of his plays.

@bigblue6917

3 жыл бұрын

@Cj wattsup This is true. My partners grandfather had a natural talent for playing music on the piano. He only every had to hear a piece once and was able to play it back perfectly.

@dee121dee121

3 жыл бұрын

There will always be ignorant pricks in this world.

This is kind of like how very few of us have been on trial, in a police interrogation, or in prison, yet based on us consuming movies, TV shows, novels, and hearing first-hand stories from other people, I'll bet every one of us could write a story in which these events are portrayed semi-plausibly to people 400 years in the future, especially if we can fill in the blanks by asking locals who may have first-hand knowledge, and especially if you are a famous play-write who meets all kinds of interesting people.

Mark Twain once said, "One thing is certain, and that is his plays were either written by William Shakespeare or else someone calling himself William Shakespeare." That about sums it up!

@CatLover-23

6 ай бұрын

I like some of Mark Twain's Writings etc.. I use to get this Delicious Dish named after him on Venice Beach Boardwalk Restaurant.. You can literally Read some of his Quotes there.. Pretty Cool..

What if William Shakespeare is actually just a character he made up about himself

@goutamboppana961

3 жыл бұрын

tf

@popefrancis8960

3 жыл бұрын

That's trippy to think about lmao

@davis4555

3 жыл бұрын

It would make sense for it to be a nom de plume. Much of what was written was actually pretty controversial with the crown.

@jonathanntulume9298

3 жыл бұрын

It sure is she is the real Shakespeare Emilia Lanier

@jonathanntulume9298

3 жыл бұрын

@@popefrancis8960 It's true she is the real Shakespeare Emilia Lanier

0 mins: Did Shakespeare exist? 20 mins: Yeah he probably did, but who knows...

There’s a good movie called “Anonymous” (nothing to do with hackers). About de Vere and Marlow being Shakespeare.

I love that every 'question' can be solved with, like, five minutes of research

@Mqmn

Жыл бұрын

That’s why the end of this video exists

@vhawk1951kl

8 ай бұрын

Not that it matters or signifies very much but one does not" solve" questions; no amount of asking others can give you knowledge or direct immediate personal experience. The " like" in "with, 'like', five minutes of research", performing what function?

“How could a man of such humble origins possibly become a playwright who coined 1700 new words?!” “Well, he wasn’t exactly noble born and kind of had to make it up as he went... and it shows in his need to fabricate words when he didn’t know the ones he needed?”

@idminister

3 жыл бұрын

Also, he only needed to hear the gossip of nobles or more likely their servants. Do people like to gossip and vent about their bosses, especially if they think it will not come back to them?

@markbaker5599

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, only people with money are capable of being creative, right?

3 жыл бұрын

@@idminister Also, these guys missed one big thing that writers do: ask people to check their ideas over to make sure they aren’t getting stuff wrong. Shakespeare could ask people, right?

@stevenhershkowitz2265

3 жыл бұрын

@ He could ask people. the fact that no one named Shakespeare asked anyone anything as far we know does give one reason to think...

3 жыл бұрын

@@stevenhershkowitz2265 Do you thoroughly document all your conversations?

Someone took shakespeare's plays and traveled to the past, handed them to shakespeare himself and voila

@MunirHack

3 жыл бұрын

Thursday Next!

@Aqib2

3 жыл бұрын

Bootstrap paradox

@leecrockford8567

3 жыл бұрын

Doctor Who

@malayangtanglaw8681

3 жыл бұрын

Sounded like Blackadder to me

@iancossey105

3 жыл бұрын

So how come Viola doesn't get any credit? :-D

Another excellent video! Many years ago I was studying for my English Lit A-Levels, and read Shakespeare extensively. As background for my essay exams, I also read a lot of Marlowe, whom we all know was Shakespeare's contemporary. The controversy surrounding Shakespeare's authorship was at its height then, and I was intrigued. On reading Marlowe's plays (Tamburlaine, Jew of Malta and Dr. Faustus in particular), I became absolutely convinced that Marlowe was not capable of writing any of the plays attributed to Shakespeare - they were far inferior, more simplistic, and much more poorly written. Whoever the person who wrote the plays attributed to Shakespeare was without a shadow of a doubt head and shoulders above his contemporaries, and above anyone who came before. Of course, the controversy does still rage.

@bootube9972

10 ай бұрын

I genuinely think some of the plays are pretty awful. 'Two Gentlemen of Verona' for instance, is pretty mediocre, except for a couple of wonderful speeches. (eg what light is light if Sylvia be not here). Lots of terrible puns, indifferent plot, and duff psychology (a man forgives the attempted rape of his beloved because the rapist is his best mate). Titus is just laughable in places.

@romualdandrzejczak4093

8 ай бұрын

As to "Dr. Faustus", crude jokes in the fourth act are most probably not Marlowe's, but of some anonymous collaborator(might be Thomas Dekker, as we know for sure he worked on one version of this play). Also mind you, that even the A-text is a memorial reconstruction and how close it is to what Marlowe and his co-worker wrote is unknown.

@petertard

3 ай бұрын

Titus Andronicus is pretty bad as well. It took a while, about 10 years of writing for Shakespeare to get really good.@@bootube9972

Hey, Mr. Thoughty2. I love your work. I am watching this old one. As always, ridiculously good research. Excellent presentation. (Interesting Scottish pronouciation, sometimes. I like it!) It was interesting that you were selling shaver in the middle, but you have a beard...never mind. Keep up the good work.

What do you call a drunken poet with Parkinson's disease. William shakes beer. I'll see myself out now.

@joshhodkinson9305

3 жыл бұрын

And after causing a drunken ruckus, the pub landlord said, "Get out! You're bard!"

@wisdon

3 жыл бұрын

Ahahahaha 😂

@bushidoh8316

3 жыл бұрын

🤣 that's so brilliant

@justamanofculture12

3 жыл бұрын

@@joshhodkinson9305 A rowdy William Shakespeare walks in to a pub. The landlord says "Oi, you're Bard!"

@blayize6307

3 жыл бұрын

Naah that’s pretty good 👍

I used keeps for hair loss and as a consequence suffered a severe allergic reaction. My whole face swelled so much that my left eye was completely shut, and I constantly itched on my scalp that I constantly scratched. I had to endure such a mishap for a couple of weeks though it seemed at the time as an eternity. If you do buy keeps I think it would be wise to try a small portion of your arm and test the product before using it on your head.

@philmccraken478

2 жыл бұрын

I’m 1:28 minutes into video and struggling to understand how this comment comes into play down the line😅

@yaggro

2 жыл бұрын

@@philmccraken478 advertisement

@OgMonkeyDLuffy

2 жыл бұрын

Fuck that

@Loyale1229

2 жыл бұрын

@@philmccraken478 me too! 😩😂😆🤣

@devinreed5725

2 жыл бұрын

Just shave it. Join the ranks mate.

This is good shit T2, keep it up mate. I'm laughin and learnin

Nobody spelled their name consistently in those days. Sir Walter Raleigh spelled his name differently from time to time.

There remains the possibility, of course, that William Shakespeare did indeed have a brilliant mind, for plots, drama, and staging... but, because he was illiterate, had to employ the services of one or more "ghost writers," who wrote down Sir William's essays, sonnets and plays in a word-for-word fashion as the bard himself dictated them. And thus the ideas were indeed his; whoever placed those ideas on paper was irrelevant.

@reapermaster1233

3 жыл бұрын

This seems reasonable

@NamelessKing1597

3 жыл бұрын

Like Homer, who was blind.

@NamelessKing1597

3 жыл бұрын

There's also the possibility it was a collaboration that he was the face of because he was more charismatic than his partner, some of his works do seem almost like they're partially written by a different person. Maybe the excitment and low humor can be attributed to Shakespeare, the finer details, rhythm and structure to another man (maybe Bacon), and the romance, emotion and tragedy to a woman (these elements seem to have qualities to how they're written that remind me of great female writers like Mary Shelly and Harper Lee). Some historians suspect he was bisexual, maybe the three were lovers.

@tallyboyle9148

3 жыл бұрын

He wasn’t illiterate. He wrote and read lines. Hard to be an actor and learn scripts if you can’t read. And he performed for many years. Indeed it was his career as a player that got him into writing.

@jsn1252

3 жыл бұрын

What Shakespeare did you read? His best work is mediocre and most is hot garbage on the level of reality tv. Just because English teachers parrot that it's good, doesn't mean it actually is.

Abraham Lincoln, whom you also referenced, had humble beginnings, and was self educated ... yet surprise surprise HE EXISTED!

@RR_theproahole

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly!! But maybe after 200-300 years people will say that someone with as ordinary beginning as that of Lincoln can't be the US president.

@slowcloudorca5071

3 жыл бұрын

@@RR_theproahole Prett much they already have, Lincoln being mostly informally and self educated, growing up poor, would probably not have had any real pathway to that office in the modern era. Sadly

@Peakfreud

3 жыл бұрын

True, but the accuracy of history is Nill, and they've already begun to rewrite him.

@andredeketeleastutecomplex

3 жыл бұрын

Lincoln was a bully.

@austinb369

3 жыл бұрын

Are you sure he existed or is that just what we've been told? Maybe nothing really exists and this is all just a dream. Hmmm

I did english literature for A-Levels and we were taught that William Shakespeare actually didn’t write his plays. That was because paper was really expensive. So after he died the actors that played in his plays came together and put the play together piece by piece, by remembering their lines and scenes. This means that the plays are not as accurate as the original but are pretty similar. And any segment that William Shakespeare was able to write was only a page or two, which was used to reconstruct the play by the actors.

@edwardboswell5675

2 жыл бұрын

You are speaking of the corrupt Quartos, all of them corrected up until the death of Oxford in 1604. "To be or not to be, that's the rub".... The plays in the First Folio are reworked to become literature, something requiring a lot of time..... Oxford retired and had the time to do that. Shaksper from Stratford was not known as a writer by anyone in his home town. In fact, SHAKESPEARE was an invisible man.... nothing about him until 1623 exists other than a 10% stockholder in a playhouse. There is ZERO record of a single stockholder writing plays during the entire Elizabethan period. Henslowe's diary has nothing on him. Zilch

@inapickle806

2 жыл бұрын

That's a strange thing to be taught. You may be partially misremembering it. Paper was expensive, but not THAT expensive. Of course he wrote his plays down. The actors however were likely not given entire plays to read but only their parts. It makes no sense to think he just quoted the plays to his actors until they memorized their parts. There are also examples of plays, poetry, etc written on paper by people who were not at all wealthy. Many of Shakespeare's plays were published and sold during his lifetime. There were many booksellers and they were not only publishing for the extremely wealthy. Corrupt quarters were also published which seem to originate from an actor reconstructing the play from memory, but they are not by any means the only sources.

@inapickle806

2 жыл бұрын

@edward boswell henslowe's diary could more accurately be called a ledger today. It was not a record of his thoughts or daily events but the expenditures, etc of his theater. Shakespeare isn't mentioned for two reasons, the main one being that Shakespeare didnt work at that theater so there was no earthly way of mentioning him. The only time when Shakespeare's plays may have been produced there was before Henslowe named playwrights in the diary, so no one is mentioned. You also vastly underestimate how much Shakespeare was connected with the theater in surviving documents. You don't even mention the small matter of plays published and sold during his lifetime with his name on them. He was not invisible at all.

@Stebbo8292

Жыл бұрын

Nonsense - who was your teacher! The quartos of Shakespeare's plays were printed this own lifetime. He was so rich he could afford to buy a big house in Stratford, land and a big house in London - he could surely afford paper (or parchment). Books were common and popular, broadsheets even more so ..

@drewolds721

Жыл бұрын

This thread is evidence that none of Shakespeare's plays exist, have ever been read or performed. In fact, the whole Elizabethan era is probably fake.

Really enjoyed this video and how you put it together

I have always thought it odd that people today could argue, 'How could someone who lived way back in the 16th century have known so much about the 16th century? Our information is so much better today!'

@TREVASLARK

2 жыл бұрын

Really ! We think we are so clever and "advanced." In some ways, I think that people in the past were much more on the ball and intelligent than many of us today. We've become soft and lazy.

@sadist8902

2 жыл бұрын

Not to mention that they think that you can only be good at something when you’re educated.. Pure intrest (and intelligence) isn’t even taken into consideration.

@ookami5329

2 жыл бұрын

@@sadist8902 or the ability to from connections, which leads to knowledge in fields outside your experience.

@attackerd8545

2 жыл бұрын

@@sadist8902 for certain things that is true though. Like if no one taught you to speak English, you could never learn it on your own.

@sadist8902

2 жыл бұрын

@@attackerd8545 But no actual person taught me English, it’s through out life that I learned English. English isn’t my first language and it’s simply by watching movies, joining gaming communities from a young age that I’ve learned to speak English. It’s not like I had a teacher or a parent that teached me the language, it was my own interest in understanding others that got me to understand/being able to speak English along with the connections I’ve made- like the other person said. Besides you can learn it on your own unless you find tools like a translator or dictionary to be help from others. Many people learn new languages without any guidance from someone else but through accessible information. If you count that as help, then ofcourse not, because I probably wouldn’t have known English was a language in the first place.

I find people with limited minds assume if they cannot do something then it cannot be done. Those who say a poor person could not have been good enough of a writer to be the bard in the 1500's may have a good understanding of how hard it would have been for him back then, and they may even be honest enough with themselves to know they couldnt do it but the suggestion that therefore he couldnt is just a limit of their own abilities not his.

@samuellyngdoh2413

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@weatherman68

3 жыл бұрын

Excellent comment 👍🏽

@ringo1692

3 жыл бұрын

Very astute

@user-vv1do1wg1j

3 жыл бұрын

A poor person couldn't be so skilled in writing to be a bard in the 1500s inb4 hurr durr you ignorant limited mind You are being moronic.

@markkettlewell7441

3 жыл бұрын

Perfectly put. ‘If one fool can do it, another fool can’ 😅

ahhh the Lichfield Garrick 2:50 i live in lichfield and have been in there, wasn’t expecting to see it in the video at all!

Fun fact, he was also the first one to use the word "troll" in the context popular today.

@CatLover-23

6 ай бұрын

Really...... Interesting.. Thanks for sharing this. Good to know.

Surprised Genghis kahn didn't make it considering how many kids he had

@kj2354

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@benjaminchristianhay

3 жыл бұрын

glad i wasn't the only one to think that..

@ErikPT

3 жыл бұрын

Because the researchers were white?

@FailasaurusRex

3 жыл бұрын

@@ErikPT i'm white i would've put him on the list lol but i see your point

@natewebb8106

3 жыл бұрын

Alexander the great, Julius/Augustus Ceasar?

“Walt Whitman” Shakespeare right now is giving a slight chuckle, lifting his hands up, and saying “you got me”

@TheFos88

3 жыл бұрын

You're goddamned right.

@gladiatorfitt5860

3 жыл бұрын

@Alex Thistle it’s a breaking bad reference lol

@stmounts

3 жыл бұрын

@@gladiatorfitt5860 Yeah - Walter White! LOL....Funny thing is most people liked the anti-hero, the other characters in Breaking Bad did not have the pure motive of Walter - family. If people want to use meth that is their choice, you have to convince them not to choose that lifestyle, it is impossible to stop the supply.. It is just like people with an eating disorder - too fat or too skinny- you won't solve the problem by trying to restrict supply.

@gladiatorfitt5860

3 жыл бұрын

@@stmounts what’s that got to do with anything 😂

🇧🇷 What makes this internet channel good, is the fact Arran goes beyond the " common knowledge "; he always go further with some " new" information about the topic he brings to us. 🇧🇷

0:28 seconds it says “4” instead of 5. low key proud for catching that. love your content.

This channel goes from fact-checking one video to straight history channel at 4 am on the next.

I thought that having a really “all over the place” handwriting was a sign of creativity, and is common in people that kinda think faster than they’re able to write? Please do correct me if I’m wrong

@tommyedmonds3367

3 жыл бұрын

that is what I like to say when I can't even read what I just wrote

@guythat779

3 жыл бұрын

The signatures were all quite different too though

@inapickle806

2 жыл бұрын

He wrote in secretary hand and that's what it looks like. 2 of his signatures are on his will directly before his death. A couple were filled into very small spaces on forms (little space). Nearly everyone (including the candidates for the 'real' Shakespeare) spelled their names in various ways at the time. It was normal.

@johncloois3301

2 жыл бұрын

It's harder to forge by another's hand.

@dirremoire

2 жыл бұрын

Francis Bacon, Isaac Newton, and Charles Darwin all had beautiful handwriting.

17:58 Shakespeare also wrote the same story like 3 times. Romeo & Juliet, Cleopatra & Marc Antony, Pyramus & Thisbe (the play within the play of midsummer night dream)

It's actually very common that artists get recognition so much later. Bach got universal recognition almost 200 years after his, same with Mozart, around 100 years after his death. Same with painters, like van gogh, etc. It's not that they didn't have recognition at all, some of them were very popular in their times, it's just that they didn't have that G.O.A.T status. Mozart died poor, bach too, Van gogh too, etc.

0:28 and 5th Abraham Lincoln

@conradsmith9441

3 жыл бұрын

I was starting to wonder if I was the only one who saw it. Details people! Saw it right away. I was like “that’s not right”.

@DazToke

3 жыл бұрын

I commented on that as well lol

@user-pm3dl4tk4i

3 жыл бұрын

@@conradsmith9441 Yep same. Had to rewind to make sure

@Southwestmo

3 жыл бұрын

What’s wrong with Abe?

@user-id8ej4pw7w

3 жыл бұрын

@@Southwestmo the guy who made the video wrote 4. Abraham lincoln. Its supposed to be 5

Shakespeare always sounds better in the original Klingon

@anneboleyn3913

3 жыл бұрын

shhh you cant speak about this in public, its suppose to be a secret 🤭 🤫

@esecallum

3 жыл бұрын

To be or NOT to be...... BOOOOOM!!!!

@john-paulsilke893

3 жыл бұрын

QUPLA!!!

@jw9099

3 жыл бұрын

@@esecallum das ist der kræstian.

@esecallum

3 жыл бұрын

@@jw9099 kzread.info/dash/bejne/pmiezMlthKy9o5M.html

i have watched this video like literally 50 times and i just now noticed that he says "fifth abraham lincoln and it shows a nunber 4 XD lmao not that it matters but it just made me laugh. love this channel

16:15 Love your channel! Though I just had to call you out on this one hehe... You can't drop such a bad pun and then just carry on as if nothing has happened... You should at least give us a moment of silence for the innocence lost 😁 Carry on the great work! On the moustache, as well, good show!

So because no records exist of his education, that means that he didn't have any? Yeah, no. Not all records make it to the modern day. If only... (Trying to do genealogy can be hell sometimes.) Who knows, he might have even known some people that might have inspired his works. Just because he wasn't a noble, that doesn't mean that he didn't personally know some. He could also have been a brilliant man. I really, really hate some of the criticisms of Shakespeare, since so many of them implies that "Oh, someone of the lower class could _never_ be that smart!" Goddamn snobs, a majority of them. Great video, by the way.

@cobravenom1316

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. Frederick Douglass taught himself how to read while he was a slave, and went on to be an academic scholar. People can do mind blowing things with enough willpower.

@Elora445

3 жыл бұрын

@GREATBEAR MAMA Damn fires. A fire in Sweden destroyed a huge part of our national archive back in 1697. Hence why practically all genealogy research in Sweden stops around that time. The medieval parts of the archive was almost completely destroyed, which is so sad. I really, really hate fires. All those lost records...

@jsn1252

3 жыл бұрын

The same argument strips him of almost all his historical influence. There are basically no records of the modern vocabulary of the time, meaning he may have simply written down the words used by a mostly illiterate populace.

@Ineedtotakeabreak

3 жыл бұрын

@@Elora445 Should have backed them up on a thumb drive.

@user-lu6xb7pw3k

3 жыл бұрын

If you watch the video you will notice that he said everything you just wrote.

Spin off anime: he was gay. Netflix adaption: plot twist, he has actually german.

@BigMan-kp6ug

3 жыл бұрын

Netflix adaptation: *black Shakespeare*

@mwanikimwaniki6801

3 жыл бұрын

@@BigMan-kp6ug 😂😂😂Wanted to say this

@BigMan-kp6ug

3 жыл бұрын

@Daniel Richardson disney version says nothing before the Jacbeean era was cannon

@Southwestmo

3 жыл бұрын

@@BigMan-kp6ug Shakespeare is the new black

@enharmonics

3 жыл бұрын

He wasn’t gay, but his sonnets do very strongly suggest he was bisexual

Ironically, the signature of William Shakespeare that keeps popping up is actually that of his younger daughter Judith. She wrote the squiggly J and a professional scribe wrote the name Shakespeare. Maybe it's not their handwriting that's bad, but our ability to read 400 year-old handwriting?

0:44 he did be good with dem words

My signature looks like a 5yr old has written it, it doesnt mean anything lol.

@Miquelalalaa

3 жыл бұрын

It does if you rely on handwriting.

@astralarkgamingandmore1341

3 жыл бұрын

@@Miquelalalaa i write but my signature is wonky.

@evbobdemon6994

3 жыл бұрын

Mine is the same my youngest kid can write neater than me.

@A.Mortem

3 жыл бұрын

My signature changes almost every time I write it

@iamhungey12345

3 жыл бұрын

I always let it fly when signing.

Me a 17 year old: watching thoughty2 saying prevention is key. Me: “Maybe I am losing hair”

@perhaps7842

2 жыл бұрын

My roommate, my bfs close friend is 24 and is balding on top. You just might be

@pamalawashington9371

2 жыл бұрын

I know a whole family of men, all bald in early 20s..sooooo..maybe lol. Then again, I hope you dont worry too much about it. There are plent of people who find baldness attractive. As a matter of fact, the men in the family I mentioned are all very handsome.

@JK-gm6kk

2 жыл бұрын

I first started noticing at 18, and I'm straight up horse shoed at 33. Be vigilant

@elliottsmith10

2 жыл бұрын

my buddy started going bald at 17. full blown bald by 22.

@ehrichan6726

2 жыл бұрын

Are you 18years old now? If so you are very cute

I wish that Thoughty had mentioned the main flaw in the Oxfordian theory, namely that Edward de Vere, the Earl of Oxford, died in 1604, and Shakespeare wrote quite a few plays after that (the Tempest, etc.). We have good records of the dates of these latter plays that de Vere simply couldn't have written. If you accept the death-faking theory, Marlowe is a better candidate stylistically, because as a young playwright, his plays are as good as Shakespeare's less mature work. And Marlowe was well educated, with a Master's degree, but with no court background to speak of. But the main nail in the coffin of all of these arguments is the eulogy by Ben Jonson, a younger contemporary, upon Shakespeare's death. It is clear that Jonson, a fine playwright in his own right, and slightly younger than Shakespeare, knew Shakespeare personally, and would have suggested that it was someone else, if that was the case, especially following his death. London, then as now, was a gossipy place, and if Shakespeare was the nom de plume of some nobleman, we would eventually have heard of it. It would have been impossible for Shakespeare not to have been known personally by a great many people, especially because he was an actor as well as a playwright. Actors Richard Burbage and Willy Kemp acted in his plays and would have spilled the tea, so to speak, if there were any secret identity to speak of.

@Nullifidian

8 ай бұрын

Shakespeare's last play, _The Two Noble Kinsmen_ , contains a simplified version of an anti-masque appearing in a masque written by Francis Beaumont for the marriage of Princess Elizabeth to the Elector-Palatine of the Rhine, Frederick V. The marriage didn't happen until 20 February 1613, the masque ( _The Masque of the Inner Temple and Gray's Inn_ ) wasn't published before the middle of the year, and therefore we have internal evidence fixing the composition of _The Two Noble Kinsmen_ at least 8.5 years after de Vere's death. And Jonson did indeed know Shakespeare personally. Aside from the fact that they were active in the same small Bankside theatrical circles, Shakespeare is on record as acting in at least two of Jonson's plays. In the 1616 Folio _Works of Benjamin Jonson_ , Shakespeare appears in cast lists for _Every Man in His Humour_ and _Sejanus His Fall_ .

Perhaps he just did some research. Talked to a pissed nobleman or two. Or a lady of the night who had been attending to a lord. And once he started working at the Globe he would have had royalty to peasants all under one ‘roof’ to observe. Loved this video. In fact, I have loved them all. Keep up the great work #Thoughty2

Once I read that the idea of Shakespeare being a group of people and not one person comes from the belief that plays back then tended to be huge productions that took years to complete. So the idea of one man being behind all of them is kinda crazy.

@inapickle806

2 жыл бұрын

They were not huge productions that took years to complete. The stages were bare. The players would perform multiple plays in a single week. Shakespeare's output was actually fairly low compared to some of his contemporaies.

@Splatinum69

2 жыл бұрын

@@inapickle806 yep, it was a collaborative effort to make the plays but Shakespeare wrote them on his own

@yelloe

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting. Where did you get the idea of "huge productions that took years"? See this is what happens when people rewrite history. lol

@lilricebowl9731

Жыл бұрын

@Dinobot Maximize I always heard that at first, pretty sure that’s the point

How come when Shakespeare makes up words he's "innovative" and a "genius" but when I do I'm "racist" and "ruining Pocahontas"

@jaysmythe154

3 жыл бұрын

You'll just have to wait 150 years and see...

@Iamlearningtolove

3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@sergioholmes2358

3 жыл бұрын

lol

@bakamono2630

3 жыл бұрын

You need almost the whole world's interpretation of it, just like Shakespeare's, for your cry to be valid 👀 If not it would be just an unfair comparison

I enjoy watching him, the original Anglo-Saxon accent, the smartness and the handsome, cool, good-looking persona---- i do not skip ALL the ads....i finish the segment 100% up to the end--ALL of his YT shows, actually. . Respect for Thoughty2.

One doesn't necessarily need to have lived through said experiences to have known about them. All someone needs to do, especially before social media and the internet, is to talk to many many people about their experiences.

@EyeLean5280

Жыл бұрын

Also there are ten years during his early adulthood when he could have been traveling.

Here’s my hypothesis: Perhaps William somehow befriended a nobleman who recognized his immense talent. The nobleman - feeling generous and detesting the thought of his boy Will’s natural talent going to waste - thus decided to help with his writings by providing the knowledge that a commoner of that time supposedly could not have had. This, of course, would require that the fact of such a friendship was utterly lost to history, leaving not even a sliver of evidence for future generations to discover. But maybe the nobleman had to keep the relationship secret so as to avoid the consequences of not doing so, whatever they might have been… This theory is a stretch for sure, but still plausible methinks.

@edwardboswell5675

2 жыл бұрын

It's true that geniuses from humble homes are often mentored by elders who see them as special. NO RECORD OF THAT for Stratford Will... Edward De Vere was living in the household of Sir Thomas Smith, famous educator who helped found Eton... Then he was tutored by the finest minds in the realm when he became a royal ward at Cecil House, depository of one of the world's greatest private libraries. His father, John DeVere had acting troupes, so the young Lord Bolbec grew up around actors. He went to Italy, the exact cities where the plays are staged. He went to Law School, he squandered his fortune on Literature and high living. He died in disgrace, as the sonnets clearly stated. It's all there, a string of around 100 "coincidences" that link him directly to the Shakespeare Canon, which his in-laws received the Dedication to the First Folio for. Playwriting was beneath members of the Peerage, hence the need for anonymous attribution......

@inapickle806

2 жыл бұрын

There's just no need for the stretch. Shakespeare was from the middle class and went to school where he read books. His plays are based on other plays. He does NOT show an unusual knowledge of courts, geography etc and often gets them very wrong. His troupe of players were invited to court many times over many years when he was writing. He would have at the very least been an eyewitness to what went on there. He and his men were invited to walk in the procession at James I coronation. They became the king's men.

@toshirodragon

2 жыл бұрын

Or even without that stretch, he talked to people who worked in grand houses, he networked in the places where servants went to drink or relax. People forget that in that time a noble family of 5 or so were supported by 40+ servants, all of whom could be pumped for info.

@edwardboswell5675

2 жыл бұрын

@@toshirodragon 100% speculation.

@toshirodragon

2 жыл бұрын

@@edwardboswell5675 No more so than the De Vere theory.

Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. (Macbeth) He apparently saw a vision of Reddit...

@jeremyscungio16

3 жыл бұрын

Every life was like that

@Psichotica7

3 жыл бұрын

Lol!

@mikebarnes7441

3 жыл бұрын

That list does fall off pretty hard at numbers 4 and 4.. no Rick Sanchez 0/10

@radioactivebirdj.1845

3 жыл бұрын

Mike Barnes not wholesome 100 poggern't indeed

My college English teacher who was a double doctor it believed that possibly the 1st early parts of Shakespeare was possibly written by Shakespeare but as there was a sickness that had come through that part of Avon for which he returned visit his family and disappeared for several months the later part of his work she firmly believed was written by at least 2 noblemen both of more Catholic leanings according to how the work of his Changed!!! 🤠👍🇬🇧

I never knew this! man I love this channel so much ❤️

Bards usually told their stories orally. Perhaps he created them orally? Perhaps he dictated his writings to someone who could transcribe them?

@lvendahl6776

3 жыл бұрын

That's what I was thinking

@mzflighter6905

3 жыл бұрын

@Nemesis So, one third of what the bible took

@stephen227

3 жыл бұрын

Why do people always have to bring sex into everything?

@stephen227

3 жыл бұрын

@Apple pie I was being ironic. Given I was the one bringing sex into everything.

@anaussie213

2 жыл бұрын

He just had bad handwriting, doesn't mean he was illiterate or couldn't write.

As an actor, who's done many Shakespeare plays, I find this fascinating. I prefer bacon only in the morning... Shakespeare, however... I prefer perpetually.

@sleepyviking1723

3 жыл бұрын

Perpetuity

@englishpsycho8425

3 жыл бұрын

Perpetually in Shakespeare.

@alkebulanawah4242

3 жыл бұрын

😆

“Someone just had to teach you that shit.” - favourite Thoughty2 quote.

John Heminges, Henry Condell, and Richard Burbage, three actors of The Lord Chamberlain's Men, a famous acting company that included William Shakespeare, were given money by William Shakespeare of Stratford in his Last Will and Testament in 1616. Two of these actors, John Heminges and Henry Condell, were responsible for having 36 of Shakespeare's plays published in the First Folio in 1623.

I'm not even sure if the Internet will still be around in 400 years.

@willscorner8423

3 жыл бұрын

Or 20...

@radioactivebirdj.1845

3 жыл бұрын

TheAbc45678 If humans are still around the Internet will be. Unless some sort of cataclysmic magnetic phenomenon occurs there is no reasons people in power would allow the Internet to dissapear

@Ineedtotakeabreak

3 жыл бұрын

@djrmarky We will be dead ;)

@Demonetization_Symbol

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds scary.

That list is more like "Who americans think are the most influential people of all time"

@grivebulbs7539

3 жыл бұрын

And who do you think the most influential people are?

@alen539

3 жыл бұрын

@@grivebulbs7539 1.Jesus Christ 2.Mahatma Gandhi 3.Leonardo Da Vinci 4.Albert Einstein 5.Mohammed Nabi 6.Issac Newton 7.Nelson Mandela 8.Napolean 9.Abraham Licoln 10.Alexander the Great 10.Abraham Lincoln

@grivebulbs7539

3 жыл бұрын

@@alen539 I didn’t know you like Abraham Lincoln so much.

@grivebulbs7539

3 жыл бұрын

@@alen539 I do like your list.

@skynyrdjesus

3 жыл бұрын

@@alen539 The biggest issue that crops up when people try to make a list like this is separating influential from famous. In reality the most influential humans to ever live are people we do not know the names of. The person who first decided domesticating crops was a good idea probably has to top the list, along with the first to raise livestock, invent the wheel, develop sanskrit, distill alcohol, design a seafaring vessel, build the first standing structure, invent the spear, and develop the first municipal community. That's a lot less boring than Jesus and Abraham Lincoln, but realistically only flight and the internet has shaped human life in an even remotely comparable scale

Shakespeare lost his 11 year old son Hamnet to the plague. His grief is expressed in this from his play King John. Do you really think someone other than Shakespeare wrote this?! I think naught! King John ·III iv 98 · Verse Constance Grief fills the room up of my absent child, Lies in his bed, walks up and down with me, Puts on his pretty looks, repeats his words, Remembers me of all his gracious parts, Stuffs out his vacant garments with his form; Then, have I reason to be fond of grief? Fare you well: had you such a loss as I, I could give better comfort than you do. I will not keep this form upon my head, When there is such disorder in my wit. O Lord! my boy, my Arthur, my fair son! My life, my joy, my food, my all the world! My widow-comfort, and my sorrows' cure!

Okay, the moment Hellen Keller was mentioned as being one of the people who didn't believe Shakespeare wrote his plays, is very ironic to me. Because she herself wrote books and yet she lacked two very important senses (vision & hearing). So why wouldn't a poor boy from a poor family (🎶🎶) write plays too? Also, if I am not mistaken, a lot of people have bad writing but that doesn't really affect their intelligence, same as having dyslexia. And, fun fact, I've heard that the poet who wrote the lyrics to what would later become the Greek national anthem, knew other languages besides Greek, and some of his poems are written with half greek and half latin characters. Plus, haven't we heard of people who come from lower socioeconomic backgrounds, being good at stuff before? I don't know, the whole "he couldn't possibly have written these because he lacked the proper education" seems a bit elitist to me 🤷 But I may be wrong though.

The past tense of "William Shakespeare, " Wouldiwas Shookspeared.

@sirbarringtonwomblembe4098

3 жыл бұрын

No, 'would' is the conditional/futute tense. So it should be 'Hadiwas ...'

@chanelmonet1683

3 жыл бұрын

I’m dead 😂🤣

@Thecoolman1

3 жыл бұрын

Get Wouldiwas Shookspeared

I heard he went by “Thoughty1” at the time...

Marlow is the most logical choice. The tangential involvement of the Crown in the Coroner's hearing on the Deptford incident and the need for Marlow to disappear before the Star Chamber had him executed, coupled with Burleigh's string pulling make the tail of a life in exile, penning plays in Northern Italy for production and funds not so implausible.

@Nullifidian

8 ай бұрын

Yeah, the only things you have to get over are the fact that Marlowe and Shakespeare have stylometrically distinct voices, completely different interests, that Shakespeare mocks Marlowe in many of his later works, that by being in Italy he couldn't possibly maintain a working relationship with the London theatres, least of all a specific company, that rewrites might be demanded by everyone from Richard Burbage to the Master of the Revels, and that Shakespeare was recognized as a writer well before Marlowe's legal problems began. Furthermore, he was _not_ going to be executed by the Star Chamber. That is obvious from the fact that he was allowed to roam at large, only checking in with the Privy Council once a day to show that he hadn't fled. People whom the state are about to come down on are not released on their own recognizance.

Sorry, I died laughing when in the middle of ur intellectual inquiries u just casually said "Someone has to teach u that shit!" 🤣🤣🤣

Did Shakespeare really exist? Short answer: Yes

@aayanagrawal2489

3 жыл бұрын

Thnx

@tommytaylor2084

3 жыл бұрын

@Sadie Smiles He's been dead 404 years. Not sure there's much left to spoil 😆

@evbobdemon6994

3 жыл бұрын

Someone excited lol

@paulgarrett1622

3 жыл бұрын

No

@MarcelPolman

3 жыл бұрын

Nope. Marlowe baby!

Never heard of middle class people writing about high class society before. ;) Willy were probably really good at gathering information from people, interviewing and reading to get info. Writing a crazy story around it like all writers ever done.

@MandyJMaddison

2 жыл бұрын

What you have written here e seems to make sense, in the 21st century.. But not in the 16th. Shakespeare did not make up his own stories. They are from books that the author had read, some in English, some in Latin, some in Greek, Italian and French. We know what his sources were. Many of those books could only be found in the library of a very rich noble. Some of them were very rare, very expensive, and public libraries did not exist. We know that Shakespeare did not have a library of books of his own, because they are not mentioned in his will. They would have been so valuable, that they would definitely have been mentioned.

@edwardboswell5675

2 жыл бұрын

Conceived out of the fullest heat and pulse of European feudalism - personifying in unparalleled ways the medieval aristocracy, its towering spirit of ruthless and gigantic cast, its own peculiar air and arrogance (no mere imitation) - only one of the ‘wolfish earls’ so plenteous in the plays themselves, or some born descendent and knower, might seem to be the true author of those amazing works - works in some respects greater than anything else in recorded history.” WALT WHITMAN

@edwardboswell5675

2 жыл бұрын

PROBABLY, MOST LIKELY.... digest this, if you will, by Walt Whitman “Conceived out of the fullest heat and pulse of European feudalism - personifying in unparalleled ways the medieval aristocracy, its towering spirit of ruthless and gigantic cast, its own peculiar air and arrogance (no mere imitation) - only one of the ‘wolfish earls’ so plenteous in the plays themselves, or some born descendent and knower, might seem to be the true author of those amazing works - works in some respects greater than anything else in recorded history.” It was the 17th Earl of Oxford, Whitman was spot on.

@niya7678

2 жыл бұрын

I mean middle class ppl writing abt high society is just Stan twt

@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis

Жыл бұрын

@@MandyJMaddison it was not uncommon for someone to have an apprentice to ‘pass the torch’ on to, and is not unknown even today.

My favorite part about “Shakespeare isn’t real” is the fundamental argument that he didn’t have a formal education. This classist assumption that a formal education is required to be knowledgeable is not only problematic but the entire argument is really idiotic because there was a very significant fire in Stratford-Upon-Avon that burned up most records from the years Shakespeare would have been at the local school. We still know about this in modern day so it was definitely public knowledge in the centuries following. So happy you mentioned that no records from the grammar school survived, I’ve watched other videos on this subject and that’s not even mentioned

Anne Boleyn sometimes spelt her surname Bullen. In Shakespeare’s day spelling wasn’t formalised.

Chancellor Gorkon: You haven't heard Shakespeare until you've heard it in the original Klingon.

The fact that Mansa Musa & Genghis Khan weren’t on that list let’s me know everything I need to know about it.

@Aaron-kk4xy

3 жыл бұрын

yeah too few people know about the latter(or is it former? idk english is my 3rd language i meant mansa)

@free_boiling4502

2 жыл бұрын

Genghis Khan makes a lot of sense but putting Mansa Musa in top 5 makes me know everything I need go know about your list.

@mysterymeat586

2 жыл бұрын

I think they pulled names out of their ass for the top four.

@janicellanes5671

2 жыл бұрын

I do not know them well so yeah they did not make it to top 5

@maxpower9175

2 жыл бұрын

@@free_boiling4502 you're saying go instead of to

please turn the subtitles on Sir. Great channel btw

Interesting video. Of all the naysayers, I've never seen any of them address the basic fact that people in the London theater knew him. It is known that in rehearsals, he re-wrote blocking and lines on the spot.

I like how it shows Jesus putting on a sweater like he's a rapper about to perform at a concert.

@Magmava

3 жыл бұрын

@iif robe :p

@AcuraRSX-dz5xf

3 жыл бұрын

I bet someone must've bin rapping for Jesus at some point

@basedandbiasedkakampink

3 жыл бұрын

So I made this rap for the Christian Youth

0:28 “And fifth, Abraham Lincoln” Yet the graphic shows a four

@showerthoughts1469

3 жыл бұрын

It must be a hidden cipher. Look for more in his other videos!

@mzflighter6905

3 жыл бұрын

I love that Mohammed is represented by some arabic scribble

@amirferdhany3177

6 ай бұрын

@@mzflighter6905 because we muslims don’t like to give him a face as we don’t know it. Unlike Christians, we don’t have any art of Muhammad in any form other than the Quran and hadis

Shakespeare knew Marlowe and referred to his murder in As You Like It. He ripped off quite a few lines from Marlowe.

I'm not sure how convincing this list is. Mozart, who mostly stuck to his contemporary conventions, ranked higher than Beethoven, who completely revolutionized western music.

In all fairness he could have told people stories and they wrote it down

@gloriasheppard7747

3 жыл бұрын

Seems plausible to me too.

@Maerahn

3 жыл бұрын

You just described James Patterson's writing career. 😁 Literally, that's how he's got where he is - he writes an outline for a novel and then gives it to one of his army of writers to write the actual novel for him, which he then edits and polishes before publishing it under his name.

@SlapstickGenius23

3 жыл бұрын

@@Maerahn the correct term for it is extruded book product!

@autumnblack6373

3 жыл бұрын

That's alot more believable than, "there's no way he'd be able to know about macaroni and cheese at this time. He's a time traveler."

@abhikbhaduri7252

3 жыл бұрын

Shakespeare's plays were not only about story they were also about the use of language and his words and his writing style... If this is remotely true, Shakespeare would lose most of his creditability as a play writer

Mans ain’t the greatest writer of all time! If he ain’t out here spitting bars like my guy dr. Seuss, he ain’t shit.

@bucketboy8461

2 жыл бұрын

Yessssir

@mightbebro

2 жыл бұрын

Eminem is scared of dr seuss

@mciacshtareol1373

2 жыл бұрын

@@mightbebro 📸 4k

@thelifeoftina941

2 жыл бұрын

about MANSA MUSA 1 HE IS BLACK 2 HE IS MUSLIM 3 HE HAD THE MONEY THAT NO WHITE MAN OWN TODAY .... BILLIONAIRES? HE WAS MORE THAN THAT. IF HE WERE ALIVE TODAY. HE COULD BUY ALL THE BILLIONAIRES OF THE WORLD.

@Log-On-Line

2 жыл бұрын

@@thelifeoftina941 what

It’s funny you mention that story should be a play because in college I had a professor that back in the day wrote and produced a play about Marlowe being the real playwright and all the conspiracy elements. They even performed it basically across the street from Shakespeare’s birthplace.

I remember that movie Anonymous came out years ago playing on the idea of Christopher Marlowe as the real Shakespeare… It was a good film. It put forth some very interesting theories

@chrisbaldwin3420

Жыл бұрын

Anonymous was indeed an interesting film but it was about the life of Edwarsd De Vere not Marlow

@the_only_living_ghost

Жыл бұрын

@@chrisbaldwin3420 you are correct my bad. I got Marlowe’s role in the story confused lol

Many of his plays are known to be collaborative works, (like 13 or so) I’m surprised this wasn’t mentioned.

@jacquesterrei3554

2 жыл бұрын

That's not true. It's a speculative theory. Especially with his early works. Certianly Titus Andronicus has a lot in common Kit Marlows writing.

when small minds meet great minds they doubt the possibility of their work.. jealousy.. a poor man being a lyrical genius..pff impossible..

Mrs Richards: "I paid for a room with a view !" Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam." Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!" Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..." Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea!" Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky." Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction." Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment?