🇺🇸💪 Glad to see that our Catamount ⛺️ passed the TOGR redemption challenge with absolutely no leaks. 👍 Luke, thank you for all of your feedback along the way! We really appreciate what your channel does for the outdoor community. Now, we're just hoping for snow, so you can see how warm and toasty this 4 season tent keeps you in winter conditions. Let it ❄️, let it ❄️, let it ❄️!

@alexanderweaver4838

3 жыл бұрын

Way to go, LiteFighter Systems! You guys rock. It's obvious that you want to offer a quality product to your customers, military or civilian. As a veteran I appreciate military-oriented products like the Catamount tent. I will certainly purchase one for my overland camping set up.

@BlesamaSoul

3 жыл бұрын

Well done for taking the time to resolve the problem, quality gear and company!

@litefightersystems

3 жыл бұрын

@Pete Peter We're currently out of stock on the Catamount. However, we'll have more on the shelf before the end of March. If you click the "Notify Me" button on our website, we'll email you the morning they're back in stock.

@emsp8

3 жыл бұрын

@Pete Peter Most likely not, I’m sure they went over this one with a fine tooth comb before they even sent it to him make sure there were zero issues and zero defects. It’s all a roll of the dice when you buy something off the store shelves whether you’re going to get a lemon or not. There’s a myriad of factors that come into play.

@jeanwatson189

3 жыл бұрын

@@emsp8 the fact that they've recalled the batch should give people confidence that they're taking the issue seriously.

I just received their litefighter 2 about two weeks ago and it had two holes at the top of the tent body. They contacted me the next day after I sent them an email, shipped out a new litefighter 2 and sent a return shipping label for the damaged one. They were super friendly, helpful and apologetic. They were a pleasure to deal with and gave me zero issues with making things right. I love the tent and really look forward to using it in april.

@SteveSmith-67

3 жыл бұрын

But surely the point is that it shouldn’t have been faulty in the first place that’s why these companies have quality control

@monaangeloutdoors514

3 жыл бұрын

That is good to know. Good customer service is a big deal and it’s nice to know they stand behind their product !

@burtwonderstone5315

3 жыл бұрын

to holes?

@RobertLinthicum

2 жыл бұрын

My favorite form of "customer service" is not having to contact them at all, i.e., a non-defective product that works as advertised. When anyone praises a company's "excellent customer service", one can read between the lines.

@elizatantos8762

2 жыл бұрын

Sh!t man!! Again?!

For the haters. The fact that they actually responded is important. Stuff goes wrong in production sometimes, but responsive customer service is worth gold

@odys3803

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine finding out that you received the faulty piece when you´re camping and you get soaked. This is a shelter that´s supposed to protect you from elements, to keep you warm and most of all dry. Not only your plans could go to hell when your tent is leaking, but your life could be in danger. If a hoodie gets bad seems OK, when sunglasses loose a screw OK. Backpack having loose threads, as long as it holds the gear and the straps are fine OK. But a tent leaking that´s absolutely unacceptable. Company that wouldn´t respond, should be sued.

@Jeff-jg7jh

3 жыл бұрын

@@odys3803 You have a mat so you are 1 inch above sea level. Awful things happening is what makes for a great and memorable camp out.

@thetacticalape8852

3 жыл бұрын

@@odys3803 Doesn't matter who you buy a tent from there can always be an issue, stuff happens. The point is you should buy it and test it before you actually need it. I always vet my gear before I decide to carry it and depend on it.

@elizatantos8762

2 жыл бұрын

"For the haters.. " now let me respond to that " for the dummys..." that don't understand the logic behind a government contractor, selling tents that are over 500$ each to our soldiers with major defects, I say this, you are either st@pid or just slow to process logical infos!! How can you be so narrow minded? Gosh man, you you head from time to time!

@jimjab3631

2 жыл бұрын

600 bucks is WAY to much for zero quality co trol, you know this

Damn 20 years in the Army I never had a tent that nice. A major upgrade from a pup tent.

@robertburnham8215

3 жыл бұрын

@Adrian T Sometimes it did & sometimes it didnt. It was only half a tent & you had to buddy up with another soldier

@Epitome63

3 жыл бұрын

If you’re mech. If you are light infantry, forgeddaboutit.

@elliotw5918

3 жыл бұрын

@@Epitome63 haha! "Light" infantry

@Loiczzr

3 жыл бұрын

@@robertburnham8215 lol, back in 88 during the winter we were in the Pyrenees and we also carried a piece of the tent. I dont remember if it was 1/3 or 1/4 but only the upper body was in the "tent". we were freezing, burning candle inside to try and stay warm..

@meanderingmarley3910

2 жыл бұрын

LOL...the Army was so cheap they only issued us half a tent.

You are the best reviewer of products on the internet. I think we should hire you to review politicians before they are allowed to run for office.

@OutdoorWeekend

3 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha good idea.😀😀😀

I dunno man, it felt like the shelter-half we hauled around in the Army 20 years ago were heavier than 10lbs lol, so this full shelter seems very packable to me haha! Solid first review. Looking forward to more with the tent.

@RobertLinthicum

2 жыл бұрын

This tent is absolutely packable. Good training.

As with most military equipment, the heavy weight and bulk are compensated by robustness, that's the trade off. Good to see Litefire responded so well to this review. Thanks for sharing Luke ...Strength and Honor

Way to go lightfighter thank you Luke for everything you and Susie do to inform us on products! Much appreciated sir !

Consumer Reports buys products anonymously to test. That is why they are so highly respected.

@elizatantos8762

2 жыл бұрын

Now you are talking!! If Luke wants to keep his respect, he better take one of the shelf and test it, not this one that got "special treatment from LightFighter

I love this tent ! I will have to see about getting one or two for my large family. I am glad they got the problems fixed so well. Great job once again, Luke !

Thank you Luke, you are doing such an amazing job testing these products and getting these companies to be accountable and do something about it. Well done.

Thank you brother for your thoughts and adventures and services

I truly hope they did recall the bad tents. Our military does not deserve to be miserable resting. Be kind to each other. Stay safe. Love to all

Way to go #LiteFighter as a winter-only tent camper it's too heavy as I hike in a bit, but if I were going to stay for several days I might make the effort and take this tent. Like Luke said this is like a 2.5 person, if they would make a 1.5 I would consider that but a 1.0 is too small for me. Thanks Luke for the update!

Take a trip to Montana for testing we have plenty of winter to come.

@onisgagan2481

3 жыл бұрын

I hit -3 today heading north from Butte. I’ve had enough already...

I purchased a Eureka Sentinal 4 season tent in 1985. It also weighed 10 lbs and was a roomy 2 person tent. It went through several BWCA winter trips in northern Minnesota with the coldest being -17 F. It didn't have a liner and was a little frosty inside in the morning with 2 people inside. The Litefighter would be an awesome tent for those conditions. As a few of the comments below, they keep coming out with this nice stuff and I'm too old to use it.

Wow what a big improvement over the first one you had Luke!

I'm super impressed with the way you handled this entire situation with LiteFighter Systems. Their response seemed to be immediate and positive. I love this configuration of the Catamount tent and that it is a four season option. My overland camping tents are three season and although the weather is changing into spring I will purchase one. Great review, Luke!

It's a 2 person tent, meaning that if 2 people go out, one carries the tent, the other carries the kitchen and food. By splitting the load equally, this is an easy carry for two healthy individuals. Going it alone, I would not carry it, for obvious reasons. Glad to see the company responded to the issues and fixed them. Cheers from Winnipeg. (Where winter camping, really is winter camping. LOL)

Just the results I was wanting to see from this tent! I so want one...even tho they are so bulky, it would be great for camping on the river when traveling by kayak or canoe.

Great week of videos thanks !

I really appreciate your honesty in your reviews! Good, bad, or indifferent!

Back in 06 was getting ready to deploy overseas and wrote to litefighter about getting one of their one man shelters since they were in demand andbshort in supply in theblogistics channels and they sent me one free of charge. Have never had any issue with litefighter. Awsome company Awesome customer service and awesome supporters of our military. Thank you litefighter and Thank you Luke for your straight forward no BS reviews of all the items you have and will cover(ed)

Luc, before we built our semi permanent shelter I purchased Canadian Army Surplus very similar to this one your testing. The poles are not exposed, and it's received a bit of punishment and survived. With the temps that drop down to up here, we found it to be very comfortable.

I am very appreciative of the test. However, on the previous night's test, it appeared to be a freezing rain or at least freezing temps. This test is under the condition of a wet rain without the possibility of freezing temps. Which bring me to: The lower temps and standing ice would have caused the tent to shrink -- thus causing areas to stretch (maybe seams). So, I would like to understand how this tent performs in the same (similar no official way) with freezing temps. Just being honest. I love Litefighter Systems gear and own a lot of it, AND will continue to buy their product just for their AMAZING customer service! Thanks again ODR and LS! Keep doing the great things you do, you are truly an inspiration!

@RobertLinthicum

2 жыл бұрын

What issues did you need Litefighter customer service to solve?

I like this tent. Currently using a Cabela’s Alaskan guide 4 person.

LiteFighter is a solid company. I use to be involved in manufacturing and the way they responded to the earlier issues was stellar. I have been in contact with them of late and they always respond quickly to my questions. I am currently running for a tent a US Army Improvised Combat Shelter with great success. Once LiteFighter's, 1 Individual Shelter System's, Cold Weather Kit becomes available, I will sell my ICS tent and buy their ISS and cold weather kit. Thanks for what you do, Luke! 73, JohnyMac

I NA am always amazed at your reviews I always learn so much thank you Luke

The weight is not a problem for over landing if you're not going to sleep in the truck. I think the size is perfect and I wouldn't want anything smaller. SGG

Please review the Dan durston x-mid tents! I have both the 1person and 2person if you wanna see them. Im in southeast missouri. I’ve seen you make videos fairly local to us (Illinois). I’d be happy to meet up and let you sleep in one. I’ll sleep in the other. They are an awesome lightweight tent within many folks budgets for the quality.

You could come back to Colorado, we are expecting snow around 2ft this weekend.

So good to see the tent performing so well. What about going on a three day weekend trip to where a snowstorm will be so you can fully test the tent? Seems like it'd be a fruitful trip.

Great and Prompt response from Litefighter Strength & Honour 👍🏻

I plan to camp next to the car so weight and size is not as important. Durability is. This tent seems very decent - durable and fast to set up. It fits my “needs”. The company’s reaction was great. Glad to see some ownership :)

Please consider testing tents with a single UCO Candle Lantern. Measure the differences in temperature & humidity with & without the candle lantern. Hopefully, you get one more snowy/cold/icy night or two.

Do you have a video of set up of this tent? Just got mine...happy to see it went well

thank the lord there was redemption... i was so hoping to get the Lightfighter 1 but was reviewing all your reviews before I buy ANY tent for AT Hike.

Thank you for the video.

Thanks for the metric calculations ;)

Hats off to you and Lite fighter a good base camp tent which looks strong and stable.

Have you ever tested any of the 'instant' tents that have spring loaded/pre-attached poles? Thank !

Luke, you could always test it through this time next year and hopefully get the snow testing in.

Litefighter is awesome. Equipment right up my alley. I currently own one and since the recall I am sold on their follow through.

I need a good four season tent. Looks interesting , thank you.

I know you focus on backpacking and such but how about some reviews on larger tents? I like space when camping so i'm looking for a tent to use with motorcycle and car camping. A 3 person would be ideal but i'm seeing limited information.

Great response from LF, tent would make a super truck tent or prepper tent. As a veteran, I am proud that LF acted quickly to resolve the test issues, not only for the civilian users but for our military folks that have enough to deal with...good job LF>

Thx Luke, I've been waiting for this!

I want this tent. I'm very impressed with the tent and the company. Their response put them on the top shelf. I am sold.

@yllibtaog

3 жыл бұрын

@Adrian T I can clearly see that its good to go. I would never camp in the snow so im not worried about that. No leaks, minimal condensation and tons of room. And it looks awesome.

Next week it’s supposed to get cold again and possibly another snowstorm in northeast.If it’s cold enough it may even snow south of here.

If I was cold weather snow truck camping and had the room I’d put a nice tarp over the whole tent I like doing that anyway even in summer for any rain.

I thought the first Litefighter ya tested was a super deluxe version with its indoor swimming pool 🤣🤣

Looks awesome! Nice and roomy, plus not wet.

Seeing that you often hike (not car camp) with a HILLEBERG tent in 4 season condition, that settles it for me, nuff said.

@lowlyrover358

3 жыл бұрын

It's about cost for me. Hilleberg soulo in the uk is just under £800. Luke should check out the 1 man Alpkit Soloist for budget tents.

My biggest gripe..... the poles BUT the biggest no black out cover...... this tent used in the military apparently they forgot soldiers sleep in the day also..... Two man combat tent still holds number one Secondly this whole talk about weight face it you bring the required items for the required mission This is a military made tent no a hiking climbing tent weigh should even be a factor if you plan for the trip.

Excellent review

Awesome Luke! Thank you So Much°`~

Nice.. i agree its to heavy to hump around with your backpacking adventures im not keen on the ektco skeleton either but hey cant have everything rite ? I definitely want to be able to stay dry however and I can always bring a good sleep system to compensate the weight of the tent

Looks like an amazing, well built shelter. You brought up weight, that really isn't alot for you and your spouse, loved one to be shelterd especially with all the new carts and wagons on the market. Heck one could even strap it to one of those collapsible hand trucks that hold up to 150 lbs and off ya go.

If your going to retest a product don't let the company send you a hand-picked one that they made just for YOU. Order another one off the shelf from somewhere This will give us a better evaluation of the product they are making.

Nice review as always Luke 👌

I have a LiteFighter 1. Love it.

Nice for winter sled pulling Trips .

Good review

I saw your review and the light fighter one were you complained about the fly touching the sides of the tent. Has this been corrected? Does the fly stake more?

I saw in a split second where water was pooling a little on top of the tent at 2:27. Sometimes I think the clips are in the wrong spot but then I never liked a tent having an exoskeleton. Is there a cover that goes on the top?

@travelinman482

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, there is.

You could set up a tarp ocer the tent and that would solve any issue.. it's also a great way to increase the effectiveness of any tent.

I'm a huge fan of exo-skeleton tents (Hilleberg!) Glad to see Catamount addressed the leaks..

Love this style tent, maybe a one man version in the future? Lower profile?

My Litefighter tent never leaked when we were doing field training exercises. Did you use the [top] rain cover?

All that doesn't matter I'm car camper. Thanks for doing the test

Hey Luke! What did they do to fix the tent?!

Keep testing them could serial numbers of the recall be provided to ensure they did in fact recall and not just say they did ?

Looks like a great tent for the right setting. Way too big and heavy to take on the trail for one night stops.

Okay so now is it to review of the 10th at work well but I see it's 10 lb that's not good for backpacking but I like the tent because I'm 6 ft 5 in tall and I think they would be enough room for me inside this tent but I'm looking for the review you did for the improved combat shelter is that on the playlist?

Great product. They really ought to start shipping internationally..

between this and the litefighter2 with cold weather system which is the better tent?

Also keep in mind, if you're going with another person, you can break up the load and have one person carry the poles and one person carry the rest, or any other combination that works for you to distribute the weight. Works for me

Maybe take a rain gauge out with you when testing. Whilst I will never get freezing rain/snow in Oz, i'm a motorbike rider and always looking for something I can quickly setup and have a dry nights sleep in. Keep up the great work as your reviews are important to new people getting into camping.

In my opinion, there is a need for a universal design of a lightweight fly for internal and external frame 4 season tents. All tents will wear with time and there is a need for a fail safe backup for moisture resistance and ventilation. It could be used as a vestibule for smaller tents. My question is, why isn't there? I have been tenting for over 50 years and before then in scouts and 4H and as a ad lib camping country kid. You need to be prepared for failure; if not, you are preparing to fail. We expected some failures and prepared for them. We made ash bark leantos and even them brought a large WW2 US Army canvas just in case.

Luke is content with his tent. 😎

i'm narrowing down between this and a kuiu storm star leaning towards this one

Seems like a great tent. Great camouflage! Take this one snow camping.

Could you do a review of Cabela’s Alaskan Guide tents? 😁

do they make a single person version of this tent?

Is there a coupon code for this tent?

Luke saying, "Snow! Snow! Snow!" Everyone else, "NO! No! No!"

@OutdoorWeekend

3 жыл бұрын

Me too no more Snow...😊

@JohnyMac-tb6ms

3 жыл бұрын

I am done with snow for this year. At one point we had a 21" base and every day for 17-days it snowed a min. of 1". Usually 2 to 3-inches. NE PA. was hit hard with snow this year but milder temps. Snow, NO NO NO! LOL

@OutdoorWeekend

3 жыл бұрын

@@JohnyMac-tb6ms yes, agree no more snow anymore ....👍👍

Just read a few comments. If indeed the company directly sent you a replacement we can't assume the product line issue has been resolved.

@UguysRnuts

3 жыл бұрын

You know that. I know that. Everyone here knows it except for one person. Luke. Why is that? I'll tell you. He's a BS artist.

@rgonzo1979

3 жыл бұрын

@@UguysRnuts if he is it doesn't matter to me. If he was a bs artist I'd assume every product would be foolproof. I just dont trust a company that has much to loose with these reviews. So I'm assuming they cherry picked that tent after inspecting it and sent it to him. I think, for better authenticity, he should have bought another one.

The external poles could be a very good feature. Extra attaching points for extreme wind or covering it with an extra shell/tarp creating another extra layer for winter contitions. Of course making an extra fitted outer layer could be difficult at home. Tha factory could do it if tha market needs it.

Luke, do you know what the individual weights of the poles, rain fly and tent body are? I wouldn’t want to pack this tent on a solo adventure but if you could split the weight with a partner maybe it would be doable as a backpacking tent? Thank you for the info update!

@mccglastron1972

3 жыл бұрын

Go back and watch his videos... there is no "fly" that is separate, or that you could leave off. It's permanently attached, which is why you can set it up in rain and the inside will stay dry. (Edit) - My bad. Apparently I need to go back and watch the videos again. I think the Fly can be removed, I just forgot. Went on their site to get notified when more are in stock and was reading the description, so I am wrong.

redemption week indeed! 👍

Really quick design changes for such an item.

@UguysRnuts

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, unbelievably quick.

Weirdest thing...I'm sitting on my couch here in Toronto watching this video and hearing thunder on my TV, and right then there's a flash of lightning out my window 😯😂

My experience has been that they are a great company in terms of customer service and resolving any issues with their products.

@RobertLinthicum

2 жыл бұрын

There have been other issues?

Is it possible that the ice separated the fabric which caused the leak?

@UguysRnuts

3 жыл бұрын

As if that would excuse the defects.

I'm curious how the replacement tent came to you. Did they know it was going to be reviewed?

I like the idea of this tent, but it is very heavy and lacks a stovejack. I may just wind up going with a teepee tent because they can be gotten down to half the weight and are much easier for one person to assemble. Plus they have the advantage that, due to their shape, they are effectively immune to snow loading.

Looks a little too heavy but I'd love to have one of those.

Car camping Ha, Luke we used to ruck that tent all over :))

the Only problem I see here is IF I was a company sending a Item to a reviewer, I would have it pre checked out before you get it, More than one right off the factory floor, I know you will review it well, but is it the same quality we will get off store shelf ?

@jayw900

3 жыл бұрын

In this case the company did say an issue was found on the product line and had it pulled. Lessens the chance they just send him a "reviewers version."

@Jeffs40K

3 жыл бұрын

@@jayw900 I could say im President of the Moon to, not like the company would says Opps and our bad and send you another to review that would be bad as well.

@RWorley3sl

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jeffs40K other company's have, which is why I'm surprised on the last two redemption tents. I did have the same thoughts but hoped it not the case. Other company's just straight up say keep away from rain, use only in back yard. Maybe the company is cares enough about money to fix problems for everyone.

@alabrol

3 жыл бұрын

I think the failure during the review is what helps to create a better product & by far they have accomplished exactly that. Touché

Head up North or out West where they still have plenty of snow.