I don't know what show you was watching, but TOWL was amazing from the acting to the writing. Character driven show and I don't get why people are mad about fans getting a happy ending. The writers had to get everything done in 6 episodes and they did a great job. AMC wasn't going to give them more episodes. All the spin offs had six. But TOWL ended up being the highest rating of all 3 and some fans are not happy about that. Rick and Michonne have a lot of fans and Richonne together just rocks! Fans have been waiting for this for over 6 years, so Thanks to Gimple, Danai, and Andy for making it happen.

I think the major turning point in the show was in episode 5, when Father Gabriel showed up. I thought he was gonna be looking for Jadis and then find Rick and Michonne. And then they would go back to Alexandria, there would be the big reunion, and the series would end with the CRM en route to track them down. Which would set up the big crossover finale. But I guess they went another direction.

The last two episodes did not feel like TWD, more of a audition for their own movie career dreams.

You nailed it, I completely agree. We were originally supposed to get a Rick CRM story. Plans changed and Gimple gave us a Rick and Michonne love story inside the CRM. That took away from a lot of the CRM/Beale storyline so when Beale and the CRM were defeated alot of us felt short changed. The Rick and Michonne story we got was great it just ended up being something completely different than we were expecting. Especially considering the CRM/Beale were wrapped up in the finale it really made me feel we didn't get enough story to earn that. Gimple said he had a whole dif story in mind before it became a Rick and Michonnes story. I love Michonne but I can't help but wonder what the show would have been originally and if the CRM storyline would have even ended at the finale? Sadly we'll never no

Even if I personally felt that the CRM arch was underwhelming, I loved the show. I mean these 2 amazing actors gave us everything and I thank them for it.

It seems like they sort of forgot television is capable of extended episodes, Walking Dead used to have 90 minute episodes a couple times A season, Game of Thrones also has episodes that are 1 hour and 20 minutes long and this finale should have at least been an hour and 15 minutes without commercials Heck if you're only having a six episode season make them all extended episodes you could achieve a lot more🤷‍♂️

I don't think it ruined it, like with Game of Thrones, but I definately think it was rushed. There needed to be at least a couple more episodes at the Commonwealth/ Alexandria and a reunion between a few of the main cast, perhaps with a cliff hanger ending, such as a dissident CRM groupd being shown appearing on the outskirts, or a horde of variants.

The number of episodes was the problem from the start. When I saw this series announced as a 6-episode limited run, my immediate thought was "how??" I feel like they did as much as they possibly could've done in 6 episodes. But why was it 6? Why didn't they want the CRM to continue as the mighty villain they hyped for years? It's just really confusing. Also there are some similarities to GOT season 8 mainly in the sense that it was 6 episodes as well and felt massively rushed. I'd say the only key difference is that the main cast was not character assassinated. We didn't have a Danerys going crazy or ridiculous plot shit happening for convenience, it was more just it being rushed. Idk why networks/producers do this shit. Why build something up and give yourself a universe cushion and then axe it??

Nah bruh. All the youtubers and fan theories and overhyping ruined it for a lot of people. I watched this show with my girlfriend who doesn't keep up with any KZread or online discourse and when Beale was killed and the CRM was taken down she did not once say it felt "rushed" or she wanted more from Beale. She took it for what it was. No overhyping or crazy theories. She cared about what the show made you care about. Rick and Michonne.

@BlondeAndBougie

Ай бұрын

This part. People were making up things in their mind.

@justinpatton6996

Ай бұрын

This is the best example of over hyping things then just enjoying what we got like I did. I was happy with everything a perfect conclusion

@la214la

Ай бұрын

Exactly! I didn’t read up on this show at all. I just knew it was coming out, and I loved every episode! It’s a 10/10 for me! I was highly entertained each Sunday night! Plus, I knew they would blow up that summit when they mentioned all the top brass being there.

@believeume122

Ай бұрын

Sry it went very rushed

@CharltonHoward

Ай бұрын

wrong, fi you actually watched the spinoffs like world beyond, CRM was hyped up it wasn't because of youtube videos, or your lack of knowledge when it comes to the TWD universe, it was because the entire story was rushed and ruined so much future potential but they did set up some stuff also, so it can still be saved, this is a poor excuse and im sick of seeing idiots try to defend this garbage, your girlfriend is a moron

I don’t know that they could have done it differently though, considering that the flagship series had ended. The TWD “story” is largely over and now we’re getting supplemental material. The only thing I think they could have done to offset that would have been to make dismantling rhe CRM the main focus of the series finale.

I feel like if they had just another 4 more episodes, the show would have been perfect. Ten total episodes would have been perfect.

@Father_Daniel

Ай бұрын

Absolutely! With adding Michonne to the series it took a lot of time and story away from CRM/Beale. It could have been perfect if they fleshed it out more. Gave us more answers and possible connections

The finale was my favorite episode. Freaking amazing finale to a fantastic show

@swishasweetrold

Ай бұрын

Jit trippin what you smoke before watching?

I think it’s harsh to say episode 5&6 ruined this series bc as you said the first 4 episodes were incredible. I just wish they had 8-12 episodes to do a proper conclusion. I also wouldn’t say I hated last 2 episodes, over as lol the pros outweigh the cons for the series so that means not ruined just a bit tainted

In retrospect, I think the finale's problems could still be solved. The story between Rick and Michonne was told properly, and the only problem was the quick resolution of the CRM conflict. But everything they skipped could still be told in detail: in another show, from the point of view of another character. For example, there could be a Tales of the Walking Dead episode detailing the CRM downfall.

Even if the story was a “Rick and Michoone love story”, you have to remember what universe it’s set it. It’s not (or atleast originally was) a place where “love defeats all”. It was a gritty harsh unforgiving world that pushed one to their limits mentally and physically. In TOWL, it wasn’t that. From The very first episode. Rick and Michoone meeting like that threw me off. Like in a world as big as they are in, they met in the most plot convenience way. Nothing was really earned in the series. Yes they showed us how long it took for them to get together, but for us it was in the same episode. I honestly checked out early on (episode 2) because it felt like a “here, damn” series. Like there really wasn’t a story to be told, they just gave it to us for fan service. Which I personally don’t like. Plus the finale sucks. Me personally, I can’t rewatch a show if it ends trash. AOT is probably 95 percent perfection. Before the ending Id rewatch clips over and over because of how much I loved it. After the ending, I can’t even bear to see any of the characters faces. Rewatching anything from it would remind me that itd all be worthless in the end due to the ending. Same thing for TOWL. Knowing it ends the way it does just puts me off of it.

The ones who live in as ment to be a movie. They basically took the movie and broke it up in to six episodes.

I think it does ruin the series to an extent. The ending is the most important part of a story. Really irritates me when people say fans had unrealistic expectations. Gimple and the team SET those expectations!!! World Beyond, TWD S7-11 all hyped up this series.

It is kinda sad. CRM was in all these Shows. Beale was teased as a Thanos villian guy for this franchise and after 6 years of waiting everything ended after only 6 Episodes and Beale just died after 4 Episodes of short screentime. Rick was kinda stupid sometimes and everything just went to easy for them. Michonne came in and in the same Episode they escape. Not even time explore the CRM with them. Episode 5 +6 also had this corny dialog that is simular to Fear the Walking Dead. CRM dosen't feel that Big of a villian anymore. CRM should be the last villian that everyone fights in a Crossover show and then a Rick vs Beale fight. Daryl should see CRM connections in France and Maggie and Negan in New York at some point where it all leads to this Avengers Endgame Show. But CRM is done. "Thanos" is dead so what now? Again CRM? Something else like the PPP thing? There never will be somehing more epic then this CRM with John Locke 😭 and telling the CRM story again feels also wrong like "Somehow the CRM is the bad guy again". Idk. Rick vs CRM should be 3 Seasons long with Morgan joining in S2 and after S3 the big Showdown happens in the last war. But this? Idk

Absolutely not!! The problem is no one listened to the creators! It was an epic love story!! Furthermore the CRM was in one location at a summit! Beale’s plan was flawed, why put everyone in one location to be taken out!!

@BlondeAndBougie

Ай бұрын

FACTS

@swishasweetrold

Ай бұрын

It was hyped up for 5 years to be a story about Rick at the CRM with possibly michonne coming in towards the end after she left during season 10

@BlondeAndBougie

Ай бұрын

@@swishasweetrold but did you even listen to the showrynners during ANY of the interviews??? They say IT'S AN EPIC LOVE STORY. The storyboard changed DRAMATICALLY in the years after Dandys departure from the mothership.

@JeRushaCorsette

Ай бұрын

@@swishasweetrold that is the great thing about movies and shows! One thing changes, and the story changes!! The fact that it from a film to a limited series changed the projection of the story!! Danai having time, changed the perspective of what story wanted to be told!!

@la214la

Ай бұрын

@@swishasweetroldWas it? I never read anything about the movies or the show. I loved every episode. I just took it for what it was - a conclusion to Rick’s story! I’m happy he got the happy ending he deserved!!

The way you can keep making quality content even though new content hasn't been released is commendable. You have a good channel. Keep up the good work.

I commented something similar to this on a different video but I like discussing this stuff so whatever - It's annoying that the CRM aren't the big bad we expected them to be. I really felt over the years that they were gonna be this gigantic, powerful, near unstoppable end game force that brings everyone, everywhere together for one epic and grand conclusion with a lot of cool stuff tied in like Walker experiments, destroying other groups and Beale's spies. It feels weird and disappointing that the colossal shadow that was the CRM that were always looming over in the background for so long with ties to the beginning of the apocalypse is just gone already with not much to note for the organization itself and especially Beale. I really thought that they would tie into all the spin offs and that would result one big spin off bringing Dead City with Negan's army, Daryl and his France group, the Commonwealth, Morgan and maybe even the World Beyond cast together to take them on. It all just lined up and made sense, it all pieced together perfectly and made for such an incredibly worthwhile opportunity for The Walking Dead Universe that could both please the fans and be beneficial for AMC and for whatever reason they just didn't go that route. It all feels really bizarre to me. With all that being said, does it ruin the TWDU for me? I think it puts a pretty big dent in it, similar to how I felt about Carl's death, but it doesn't ruin it. I think if they really try, they COULD turn it around and make something great out of Rick and the group helping lead the Civic Republic / a new CRM possibly under Rick at the top. If they tied Genet and the variant walkers into it too, it could pay off and slightly make up for it.

I think the main cross-over threat was highlighted in TOWL. **The million strong hordes.** Not the CRM. Perhaps the CRM was just a slight of hand. Even the CRM feared those hordes.

I actually loved the entire series except for two things: 1. like you said, the CRM plot line ended way too quickly and neatly, 2. I was devastated to realize we are likely not getting a season 2. Maybe I'm greedy but that took a lot of the joy out of it for me. We waiting all this time just to get 6 episodes? I'm so sad, even though in my opinion they were mostly great episodes.

Before I watch, here’s where I stand. The first couple episodes started out strong. Rick tried to escape. Realized he couldn’t, and accepted his fate. He tried to do what he could from within. That’s progress. He did that for YEARS. just to suddenly flip on a dime and kill at least a few people he had to have considered friends during those years because his wife couldn’t see another way? Fuck no. That’s not how people work. If somebody argued with me and had the same conversation and same argument 5 times back to back, if we’re on opposite sides, and there’s no give and take, them yelling at me some more isn’t going to change my mind. It’s going to strengthen my plan and my perspective on the matter. But nahhhh rick got laid one good time and decided to hell with the path he had set on. He was a prisoner at first. Sure. But I guarantee you, you spend enough time hanging out with the devil, and doing his dirty work, eventually you’ll start to get accustomed to it. It’s the entire idea behind indoctrination. Once you’re in the mud, you dont necessarily want to get it off. You want to see it through to the end. Plus, the crm being basically just one big group of national guard soldiers is…really disappointing. It was a lot of people, yeah, but for military, that was nothing. It was national guard, so that means it won’t be as big, I get it…but the image in my head wasn’t a bunch of weekend warriors with a plan. (No offense to any national guard. I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with you or what you do, it’s really just that I can’t find a good way to explain how underwhelming they seemed compared to what they made it out to be.) I expected layers, countless people, experiments, etc. and we got like 20 dudes and a pipe dream. It’s like if all you had to do to defeat a viltrumite was push a button on their back.

For me, I thought it was a good show, but the finale just ruined it for me along with the Gimple speak. It just makes it so unbelievable that they kept Rick for so long now. They should’ve been the endgame that.

I remember when s8 got was airing i refused to watch the last episode, i didnt need a conclusion anymore. Ill do smth similar with towl too )) ill just forget about the last episode so i can try and enjoy whats next to come

As someone that has endured through EVERY episode of EVERY walking dead franchise shows (yes, that includes Fear The walking dead too) that last episode was still a masterpiece in my eyes.

Baby face Jerry

terrible ending, ruined the entire series and you can tell Andrew and Danai knew nothing about the other shows like World Beyond lol or Scott didn't tell them, people defending this slop lack intelligence and would be happy with anything

Love how in retrospective Amc made a 2 season/20 episode cringe teen drama to "set up" this crm for it all to mean nothing. On top The Sheep ATE THAT SHIT UP.

I just think people are too judgmental these days the ending was fine a bit rushed but come on man the reunion was everything we wanted.

Nope! Not at all! The show was about Richonne reuniting and Rick getting back to his kids. That happened. That’s all that mattered. Could they have done a bit more with the CRM ? Sure, but it wasn’t necessary for the success of the show. TOWL wasn’t about the CRM; it was about Richonne!

Let me see if I got this right... you're saying The Iron Throne doesn't retrospectively ruin Battle of the Bastards? 😉

Yes

The reason you consider episode 1 fantastic is precisely because that episode was Rick's story, when the writers introduced all that Richonne Fanfic this spinoff was ruined, that is, also this spinoff ruined the franchise imo

@swishasweetrold

Ай бұрын

Yeah that's literally what it felt like a shitty fanfic 😂😂😂😂

This show was too little too late. Could not make up for the piece of shit writing that was seasonal 11 A. B. and C. TWD is dead.

twdu is dead unfortunately now...(coming from a die hard twd fan)

Dose not matter The walking dead ruined their shows many many many many many years ago now so atm the franchise is a walking shambling zombie.

The finale did not ruin it stop crying

@jerrystakes

Ай бұрын

Where were the tears?

@Somecupoficewater

Ай бұрын

REALLY GUYS ….right in front of my ice …. Really 😁

@Spnuniversesolosmcu

Ай бұрын

@@jerrystakes like omg the rick and Michonne rolled the CRM fucking who cares 🤡🤡🤡

@CharltonHoward

Ай бұрын

you're crying because it was garbage and you know it lol

@Spnuniversesolosmcu

Ай бұрын

@@CharltonHoward no it wasn't cry Lil bro btw make anything other than kid laroi content bud 🤡🤡🤡🤡