My favorite primary source for the “fat folks have always been with us” argument is old Lane Bryant catalogs. (I have scores of the lovely old things.) Lane Bryant has been making plus sized clothing for over a hundred years, and we are talking true plus sizes with busts of 58+ inches.

@StephanieCanada

2 жыл бұрын

Oh my goodness! Thank you so much! I LOVE your content!!!!

@ChyarasKiss

Жыл бұрын

I’d love to see more on this.

@tejaswoman

10 ай бұрын

Saw that you apparently do some videos about the rationing guidelines from WWII. Interested in that from a different viewpoint than most folks - my dad was a HUGE fan of local retail giant Stanley Marcus, and in creating and developing the Wikipedia article on him, I learned of his crucial role in the War Production Board. "He encouraged men to wear drooping socks (to save much-needed rubber that would normally be used for elastic) and devised regulations for the manufacture of women's and children's clothing that would enable the nation to divert more textile resources to uniforms and other war-related needs: 'We settled on certain prohibitions, such as lengths, sleeve fullness, patch pockets, ensembles, sweeps of skirts, widths of belts and depth of hems. ... The restrictions we put into effect froze the fashion silhouette. It effectively prevented any change of skirt length downward and it blocked any extreme new sleeve or collar development, which might have encouraged women to discard existing clothes.' - Stanley Marcus "In addition to these restrictions, Marcus recommended to the WPB that coats, suits, jackets and dresses be sold separately 'to make them go further.' The changes were expected to create a total savings of 100,000,000 yards (91,000,000 m) of fabric to be used in the war effort." Note: the article has footnotes for all of this, pretty much all of them added by me, but it would have been a lot of work to include that here considering most people reading the comments wouldn't have felt the need to go look.

@tejaswoman

10 ай бұрын

​@@StephanieCanadaI know that on a related video, you mentioned looking up when the restrictions on fabric were lifted, so you might enjoy that article on Stanley Marcus or at least the chunk of it that is about the war years.

Survivor bias. Tiny sizes come down to us cause no one used them. Larger sizes also have more clothe available to reuse for kids clothes ;)

I remember some seriously plus-sized people in my family back in the 50s, including my dad and aunt. There was no body shaming either. We loved to hug them, as kids it was such a rush.

I LOVE your shorts! Perfect timing, again. So flawless that I can run it in a loop without noticing the ending. You make me 😊.

Yes they did. All you have to do is look at old pictures of my relatives!!!!

@expatpiskie

2 жыл бұрын

Me too, my 3xg-aunt, my gg-grandmother & my 3xg-grandmother's sister. Even in living memory, none of my great aunts were slim ladies.

Good to see you back on you tube!

Your hair and makeup in this video is super flattering!

Optical illusion. The undergarments adjusted the figure. Clinching, padding, etc. So even a larger size had the same "look"

yes, most clothes wore out, & came apart at the seams. so you can trim it to a smaller size, & sell it, or give it away. then make another. another trick I heard my grandmother tell me my very large great grandmother did was each seam had an extra inch on each side of the seam, so when the seam did wear out, she could use the fabric, & redo it. to make her dresses last as long as possible, but they'd inevitably get resized, & given to a daughter, & it followed the line of women. she made patterns, & used fabric that'd stay in style for a long time, even if it was only women in the fiend, or cleaning house. living, & working in Mississippi heat, you didn't wear a nice dress!

Alright, quit that! Now I want to know the "real" question. Since my grandma and mom were the aforementioned plus size as well as most of my other female relatives and I know they sewed, yes they did exist. Wish I had their patterns.

girl....not fair AT ALL!!! what question? just mean!!! LOL

Who in the world didn't think plus sized people didn't exist????

@StephanieCanada

Жыл бұрын

You would be surprised the arguments I have had in the comments....

As a fifty something who was taught to sew by my grandmother, let me explain something that used to be widely understood: Nobody who sewed at home ever* expected to pull out a pattern and have it fit correctly from the start! Victorian sewing patterns were only *diagrams, with information on how far below the waist the jacket ended, or how many pleats the ruffle had. It was expected that you could make it from there. No pieces, no instructions, just diagrams. Then along came the pattern companies. They simplified sewing *tremendously by standardized sizing - the first to do so. And they have always been more consistent than RTW, and based on a set group of measurements. They also gave step by step instructions and printed pieces to lay out instead of just a picture. It was always, always understood that the pattern was a starting point ONLY. That you would know your own body and know YOU would need to adjust for your wider waist, high hip on the left side, sloping shoulders, and what ever other individual quirks your body has. I don't know where the idea that it should fit everyone out of the envelope came from, but it's ludicrous! And its the same reason RTW looks funky on everyone. We're not clothes hangers. Tip: celebrities and others who always look good look that way because their clothes are altered to fit *them, not because they're perfect! This is also why weve gone from healthy attractive models who flatter the clothing, to anorexic genderless sickly sticks. They are literally clothes hangers. Learn to tissue fit YOU. Learn the full bust adjustment. Figure out how to tweak darts for your sway back. You don't NEED to draft a sloper unless you want to draft your own patterns. You don't NEED a dress form, though they can be handy. Buy a fitting pattern - they all make one - buy 5 yards of gingham. It's tedious, but when you're done, you will know how. to. tweak. any. pattern. to. make. it. fit. you. Like everything else, real skills have no shortcuts and take practice, practice, practice. No go empower yourself!! 😘

Love this short!

Hahaha, great joke video. No one is ignorant enough to believe big people just didn't exist in "olden times." Right? People don't actually think that, right? Please tell me this is parody.

@StephanieCanada

2 жыл бұрын

You have no idea how much I too wish this was a joke... but sadly I hear "people were just smaller back then" ALL THE TIME!!!

@stevezytveld6585

2 жыл бұрын

_nod_ _nod_ No one outside of sewing and museums seems to have heard of the concept of 'survivor bias'. - Cathy (&, accidently, Steve), Ottawa/Bytown/Pimisi

@ivoryhenson1285

2 жыл бұрын

@@stevezytveld6585 survivor bias comes up a lot in the child safety world a lot, although it's about babiesliving through un safe sleep situations and lack of car seats. It's amazing how many people think if I can't see it, it didn't happen

@ivoryhenson1285

2 жыл бұрын

"People were smaller back then, obesity is a modern invention because of soda, junk food, and computers. I don't care if your great grandma was fat, she wasn't as fat as people are today and she was an outlier and had to make her own clothes from scratch because no one sold clothes that big" I've heard a version of that dozens of times.

@stevezytveld6585

2 жыл бұрын

@@ivoryhenson1285 And yet... we have photographs that tell a different story... As the Kids would say, "Oye, for serious?!".

Yikes yt algorithm, how am I just now seeing this video? Do you follow that ig account that's dedicated to old pictures of fat people? It's a great resource for busting this myth and style inspiration

@tejaswoman

10 ай бұрын

Now who's a tease? Everybody's having a fit here in the comments over whether or not she answers her own question at the end, and here you go telling us there's an Instagram account with these vintage pictures and you don't tell us WHAT IT IS 😮😭🤬

@ivoryhenson1285

10 ай бұрын

@@tejaswoman I don't know what the frak you're going on about, but since you chose to be rude for no reason at all, you can go ahead and just Google it yourself, which if you did before deciding to go off on an internet stranger, you'd know it's incredibly easy to find.

Well of course they did, Winston Churchill was built. I have photos of my great grandmothers and they were not skinny Minnie's either. And what about Queen Victoria?

Leads is to the question…. CUT TO BLACK

@tejaswoman

10 ай бұрын

Unless you consider that it loops back to the beginning and maybe that's the question?

No

The Bible talks about a king that was “very fat”. This in the days without processed sugar. So yes, as long as people have existed, so have fat cells.

I was born in 1950. As a child I only knew one obese person. As a teen I met another. It was years before it became common. I've struggled with weight my whole life and sympathize a lot. Still, we need to step it up and become healthier.

When you say the bust size is 44, is that a measurement at the fullest part of the bust? or like a bra, band size?

@BlueRoseFaery

Жыл бұрын

Usually it’s the full bust measurement, for dress sizing it’s the full bust, waist (high waist not pant waist) and full hips that would be the measurements used.

It may have been harder for the poorer people to become plus size, do to a lack of food, in the past, but that doesn't mean the rich people were all skinny. Examples, Henry VIII and queen Victoria. Both famous for being plus size.

Lmao this is weird man of course we had fat people in the past. That’s why we know so much about heart disease and obesity. We had many many cases lol

@Eloraurora

2 жыл бұрын

...heart disease is strongly correlated with chronic stress. Fat-shaming is a _source_ of chronic stress, and stress can also contribute to weight _gain._ If you have any ideas on a methodology for uncoupling fat and stress as potential causative factors for heart disease, I'd be delighted to hear it. Otherwise... salt, grain of.

@starababa1985

Жыл бұрын

My aunt was built like a pincushion all her life and lived to 90. She was always happy, loving, relaxed and positive. Maybe that's the real secret. She could have lived longer, but said she had done enough and was ready to move on, so she eased out gently at her own pace, just as she lived.