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@dawnbrodeur888

Жыл бұрын

S .,love ccx

@gailheard1524

Жыл бұрын

Lol 😂

@lindamon5101

Жыл бұрын

STEVE DIECKHOFF DID IT. ROCK CLIMBER CHESS MASTER ODD JOB CARPENTER IN THE RAMSEYHOOD. STEVE DIECKHOFF. THE FAMILY IS INNOCENT. STAGED BY THE CLIMBER SBTC.

@lindamon5101

Жыл бұрын

Jesus lets see u guys if ur kid gets murdered. Shock?

@shannonmathiscowen8682

Жыл бұрын

It makes zero sense to me to hang up on the 911 dispatcher. Alex Murdaugh did it too & he was in a remote area surrounded by trees - he should have stayed on the line to make sure first responders found his house?! He's guilty though; called attorneys to come to a murder site so they'd back off on his fraud & boat crash case - before calling Buster. Re: Patsy Ramsey though.. hanging up on 911 to call "friends" is a guilty look too imo. At least make sure they find your house and don't need more information to speed up the process of finding your child for goodness sake. Btw, 1st time here... loving your videos. Thanks for sharing your knowledge! You have a new fan in Oklahoma.

I feel like I’ve watched enough KZread to solve every cold case in US history

@cassiec9008

3 жыл бұрын

Also she 100% would’ve stayed on the line if she didn’t know. It’s common to stay on the line to calm down

@bambieyedgirl7846

3 жыл бұрын

LOL brilliant 😂😂🌸🌸🌸

@danhayes1342

3 жыл бұрын

Right?? And I get mad when local cops dont talk to me ( out of professional courtesy) I honestly believe I'm a trained NCIS officer I've watched every episode of NCIS (all 3 in the franchise) at least twice

@kittymeowmeow93

3 жыл бұрын

Hey if you're building a team I too have a KZread resume full of expertise 😎

@philstrachan

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

That pageant crap is creepy in itself

@TheBehaviorPanel

3 жыл бұрын

No kidding.

@jeanettecook1088

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. I've read a great deal about this case. The note was written in a hand indistinguishable from Patsy Ramsay's. She also comes across to me as a covert narcissist, and they are typically jealous of their children, especially daughters. As long as Jon Benet made her mother look good, the beauty pageant stuff would have been acceptable to Patsy. Once the girl starts to grow up, the mother realizes the girl will take the ascendancy, I think she took action. No narcissist will tolerate being upstaged. The mother in this case had the most opportunity, and the means, and the motivation to commit the crime. Her coldness is typical of covert narcissistic behavior, and notice her appearance strives for perfection. Her husband acts like a co-dependent, and he lets her take the lead, coming in only when playing to Patsy's tune. Narcs make perfect family storms, and notice also how much the child's death makes the mother appear to be a victim. He isn't acting like a victim. Covert narcs always want to be the victim. I don't believe Patsy Ramsey.... at all.

@steffakasteffcrayzee6741

3 жыл бұрын

Yea she exploited her child

@Sunnysidestoriesandmusic

3 жыл бұрын

@@jeanettecook1088 I thought everyone knew it was the autistic brother

@inproper3952

3 жыл бұрын

I agree, isn't it a southern thing? Very creepy it would attract many many pedophiles.. making little girls up with make up and all the rest...not GOOD

When my daughter died I grew weary of people telling me how I should or should not grieve. Anger is part of the grief process as defined by professionals. I was often obnoxious and years later ashamed that I lashed out at others. But through the years several people apologized to me about being rather flippant and admitted to me they judged me wrongly for my personal way of grieving.

@nbenefiel

4 ай бұрын

When my friend’s son hanged himself in his college dorm, I never presumed to tell her how to grieve. We would walk for hours as she talked about her son growing up, the events that lead to his death, and how she felt he was still with her. It was far from my place to tell her how to feel.

I found it odd that Patsy said "I'm THE mother" in the 911 call to the dispatcher instead of saying "I'm HER mother". it was as if she was stating her character in the story she was telling not her relationship to her daughter. Just an observation.

@ginarosas2507

Жыл бұрын

That's exactly what i picked out, the first time i heard this years ago. So odd

@carlabryan277

11 ай бұрын

You're right. Good catch.

@WillChil466

11 ай бұрын

And a very observant one.

@WillChil466

11 ай бұрын

@graeme4896 .ha! What a crock.

@priscillasalzberg5349

10 ай бұрын

Patsey Ramsey also said, "The Ransom note" not a ransom note. Maybe that's her way of speaking. She substitues "the" for "a".

I was a 911 dispatcher for 15 years. What most people don't realize is that the recording equipment begins recording a few seconds prior to the call being answered and also after it has been disconnected.

@deborahleone4351

Жыл бұрын

GOOD TO KNOW! And Patsy got caught because of it.

@ellenthom34

Жыл бұрын

Even so the caller should be told help has been dispatched

@Chron-sl4nd

11 ай бұрын

@deborahleone4351 Well how did Patsy obtain male DNA that didn't match anyone in the family and leave it on her child? To think she did anything to hurt her child is insane. The City of Boulder issued a public apology to the Ramsay's. They were innocent and it's easy to see how Witch Hunts began 🤔

@nbenefiel

3 ай бұрын

@@deborahleone4351 That audio tape has been enhanced ad infinitum. There’s nothing on it indicating that Patsy said anything to anyone but the 911 operator. You guys are so desperate to hang the blame on the Ramseys that you will grasp at any straw. The best computer programs on the planet have been unable to reveal any secret conversation.

This might be the greatest video I've ever seen. The presentation is impeccable. 4 guys talking about a subject without stepping on each other and jumping in.

In the 911 call: “I’m the mother.” Who says that instead of “I’m her mother” or “She’s my daughter”? It’s distancing at a time when she would want closeness.

@FathomlessJoy

25 күн бұрын

If you ever called 911, they want to know your relationship to the victim. They will ask you a lot of other sterile questions too. Not so tough to understand. Yes, that call seems upsetting and strange, because a little girl was assaulted and murdered and her distraught mother is begging the authorities for help, which they largely did not. Taken out of context her answers are weird, taken in context completely consistent with a terrified mother begging for help.

@JoanneMacg

25 күн бұрын

@@FathomlessJoy taken in context they’re even more strange.

@mistyyoung5587

8 күн бұрын

I always found that strange, too. And now, even more so now that I'm a mom. I was 8 when this happened, and my mom watched all the media crap and interviews. I think she even read some of the books. But, as I got older I asked my mom about this case and she never liked Pasty, and said she never thought that Pasty was really a "mom". She was a mom in title but not actions. Supposedly it was said by someone that Pasty had never really wanted kids, but to maintain her image it was expected of her to have kids. That she never really saw them as their own person but just extensions of herself. Which I guess kinda makes sense, if you don't think of yourself as "a mom" you might possibly say, "I'm the mother." I don't know if what my mom said she learned was true, I tried to Google it but I couldn't find anything. But if it is true it does make sense.

@davidfigueroa6351

3 күн бұрын

💯 agreed

OKay I disagree about hanging up on dispatch. I would totally hang up, because I'd be in emergency panic mode, and would want to run around the house frantically looking for my daughter, because I'd still be in a bit of denial, even with the ransom note staring me in the face. Talking on the phone is not what I'd be wanting to do during an emergency. My instinct would be action, after giving the address. There is nothing less soothing than the condescending tone of dispatch telling you to calm down when your child is missing.

@SPORT2932

10 ай бұрын

I agree. Patsy gave all the pertinent information and the police were on the way. Why stay on the phone?

Love when Chase says “she’s into pageants...not about true beauty”

Am I the only person that finds watching Chase, Greg, Mark and Scott not only fascinating but also a great way to unwind after a long day of work.

@paulross8418

3 жыл бұрын

No you're not alone. Love these, can't wait for the next one.

@ellaclarke8282

3 жыл бұрын

This is the only show I've watched where zoom and split screens actually makes the content better!

@cardargo1

3 жыл бұрын

They just relax me, just love watching them

@mistyoglesby2577

3 жыл бұрын

Me too girl

@tenderheart7530

3 жыл бұрын

@ Monica Coe Sometimes they trigger nervousness for me. I am not sure why but sometimes it seems they lack empathy. Idk. But I enjoy their intelligence. 🌺

It is known that JonBenet was a bed wetter. Many of these children wet the bed because their environment is so stressful or threatening. I don’t know if we will ever know the truth but I think this was one of the most botched cases ever. RIP angel. No one can hurt you now.

@cherihayward350

5 ай бұрын

❤🙏

@victoriamarie9103

4 ай бұрын

No that’s a misconception. It’s very normal for kids to wet the bed at that age. When my daughter has sleepovers almost all of her friends need overnight diapers, including my daughter. It’s when they get older and are wetting themselves at school and other places where then it “could be” due to underlying stress at home. And that’s not even a guarantee of abuse. So you have to be careful about judging a kid in that way.

@RationalNon-conformist

4 ай бұрын

@@victoriamarie9103wetting the bed once or twice, but every night at that age? That’s most definitely a sign of something going on.

@RationalNon-conformist

4 ай бұрын

@@victoriamarie9103this was not a healthy and normal home, look at the pageant photos, very narcissistic home. No child wants to perform like that.. truly sick.

@joyceszalucka2369

4 ай бұрын

A Family member was a bedwetter, & didn’t stop until twelve…Dr. visits, exams, no liquid after six, everything was tried..rubber under the sheets protected the mattress,,all lengths taken…out grown thankfully, & Dr.s diagnosis, was ‘Sound Sleeper”

The police really messed up this case from the very beginning.

After working as a dispatcher for police and fire for a mid size city for 15 years, that call is absolutely on point. That's how those calls go. Yes, she would hang up .it's very hard to keep callers on the phone after you tell them an officer is on the way.

@siobhannolan5822

2 жыл бұрын

I NEVER hang up from the dispatcher until an Ambulance 🚑 it a Police/,EMT is on the scene. If you have not learned CPR SO IT!! I'm older now and have kept friends going until the squad for there thank GOD 🙏🙏!!;The worst. About 30 years ago summer I awoke to my neighbor running up and down the street screaming for help. I ein out in my nightshirt. Something's wrong with RJ I can't wake him up. I knew where his room was. I went in, checked for vitals-none there was vomit around his mouth and on the pillow and lividity had set in. He had choked on his vomit. I called 911 back and explained what the condition of the deceased was. It was so heart wrenching to tell my dear friend that her 22 yr old son was dead. She had custody of her daughters 3yr old. He kept asking Why isn't Uncle RJ getting up? It's Pancake 🥞 day! I just took him with me until everything was in place for the funeral. So sad.

@Lee_Lee73

2 жыл бұрын

@@siobhannolan5822 Omg that is so freakin sad. RIP RJ

@isking1715

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the voice of reason Lori, I've heard other dispatchers say the same. Apparently it's why you guys keep reiterating "stay with me" etc.

@claymac7895

Жыл бұрын

That 911 call is 100% bogus.

@isking1715

Жыл бұрын

@@claymac7895 So are you.

Could you do one where the suspect has been proven innocent after his conviction? It would be interesting to see what signs might have been missed.

@thelovelution3831

3 жыл бұрын

such a great idea

@ashleefitzgerald3695

3 жыл бұрын

Thats a good idea

@amywill9185

3 жыл бұрын

@@patelden2522 thats rather a mean reply lol

@nettejohnson7492

3 жыл бұрын

A mother just got out of prison after 25 years for murdering her son and she was innoCENT all along. Her other Son became estranged from her as she was convicted of murdering his brother. Imagine that reunion. How do you put 25 years of being CONvinced that your own mother murdered your only sibling.. ?

@09rja

3 жыл бұрын

@@patelden2522 Yeah, I'm willing to bet a lot of this stuff would be proven wrong.

They immediately call a bunch of friends to come over and contaminate the crime scene? Right off the bat it seems like an inside job.

@nbenefiel

4 ай бұрын

You’re mistaken. There were not “a lot of friends”. There were four, the Whites and the Fernies. Their priest came later. All arrived after the police who let them enter the house. From the very beginning the Boulder P D bungled this case.

Is it just me or when she is talking about the length of the ransom note, and how unusual it is, does she not almost say "I didn't realize..."?? Changes to "from what we understand" about minute 41

Patsy is more indignant about other people telling “their” story than she is that her daughter was murdered.

@traveljunkie1324

3 жыл бұрын

Spot on!

@shaybatty3785

3 жыл бұрын

Yes covering up

I don't know if she murdered her daughter but she definitely knows what happened

@judywright4241

3 жыл бұрын

-She said it true ‘This is a story only we can tell’, amen lady! It IS a ‘story’ only you can tell, not the TRUTH, which is what grieving people do, they want the truth, punishment and JUSTICE.

@karenskinner9529

3 жыл бұрын

She DEFINATELY knew what happened. Everyone inside the house that night knew

@susanbrogan3267

3 жыл бұрын

It was said there was no foot prints ins the snow.

@atomicplaygirl66

3 жыл бұрын

@@susanbrogan3267 19:41 or was it like Patsy says here? There was no snow. So there could be no footprints found in snow.

@katherinoday1458

3 жыл бұрын

According to the autopsy report, Jonbenet showed signs of previous sexual molestation., which again likely points towards the parents. Also, both children had bedwetting problems, Burke reportedly liked to throw feces etc ., these are signs of psychological problems. And keep in mind, the Grand Jury indicted both parents.

Patsy says. I'm THE mother... Not, I'm HER mother...

@doreenkucek335

6 ай бұрын

13:39

@nbenefiel

4 ай бұрын

So?

I feel like when' they talk about this book the mother gets defensive and almost sounds jealous of the child when she says it's OUR story not HERS.

@BijouxBee

Жыл бұрын

Couldn’t agree more!

Someone in the family committed this crime -and they all covered for each other.

@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823

3 жыл бұрын

I'm gambling on the freaky son.

@charmonymurray3893

3 жыл бұрын

I concur.

@marilynmarcelli270

3 жыл бұрын

Let’s not be so quick to point fingers, nobody was proven guilty. Also there were also a lot of employees and ex employees that had keys to there home.

@truckhogs

3 жыл бұрын

read more, pay attention.

@a.k.4085

3 жыл бұрын

@Heidi Robinson I've been following this case for YEARS. Whoever did this, the dad knows. And covered for them (or himself).

Mark is correct. Took me 40 years before I could speak of my Brother’s death without crying. When I lost my baby, born premature, I still cry when I relate that story.

Patsy was ambidextrous and when she was in college, she laughingly claimed that no one would realize that she wrote anything if she used her other hand. She was right!!

@nbenefiel

4 ай бұрын

Patsy was not ambidextrous. She was strongly right handed, but she did submit handwriting samples written with her left hand, including a copy of the ransom note.

@custer2449

4 ай бұрын

@@nbenefiel As she had said in college, "No one will figure out that I'm ambidextrous". That includes you.

@nbenefiel

4 ай бұрын

@@custer2449 Cite a source for that. John Ramsey said his wife was right handed. I think he might know. She submitted samples written with both hands.

@custer2449

4 ай бұрын

@@nbenefiel The MAJOR source is her phony baloney silly ransom note. Read it - with A#1 comprehension along with a deep dive into the mentality of the person who wrote it. It is - without question - the most damning piece of evidence in the history of murder. I doubt seriously if you'll do that though. I'm sure you'll want me to site more links, when you yourself can do the easy work. Patsy murdered her daughter. It's as simple as that.

I like Chase's thoughts on every video I see. He adds a depth to the discussion that is very thought provoking.

I would like them to give their opinion on Burke’s interview.

@dianehovland5948

3 жыл бұрын

Yes!

@bethfordham3085

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely yes

@joeshmo4784

3 жыл бұрын

I too am interested in their take on Burke's body language. From my uneducated observation; if you watch him in all of his publicized interviews, at his sister's funeral, without listening to the audio, you would never conclude that he was talking about a death. And, at the funeral (no audio, no context) he could have been walking in a parade from all one could gather from his body language. 🤷‍♀️Idk, don't come for me.

@ninamills6435

3 жыл бұрын

There is probably some thing , wrong with him , He’s seems like a sweet boy, but something about him not quite right!. Money buys a lot , friends , police, public people!! Just does .

@rebecca6352

3 жыл бұрын

Yes that would be a great one, I went looking for it thinking surely they have reviewed Burke's interview!

I’m so enjoying these. I’d love to see you do OJ Simpson..

I remember back when the autopsy showed that JonBenet had been repeatedly sexually assaulter for a long period of time. Strange that we don't hear that anymore. Maybe it's because John Ramsay is wealthy and has threatened to sue anyone who reports truthfully on the sexual assault of JonBenet. Someone needs to figure out what those initials mean at the end of the ransom note. And, no, Patsy didn't murder her daughter. Whoever constantly raped her did it. When John Ramsey croaks, the Boulder Police Dept will be able to disclose the truth. Until then...

@freudulant

9 ай бұрын

The rapist/killer may be amongst the police or judiciary. Many such cases.

@4gegtyreeyuyeddffvyt

9 ай бұрын

Sbtc Saved by the cross

I don't think she said: I found THE ransom note, I heard : there's A ransom note

No emotion. I lost my son a year ago. In his sleep. I can't get his name out of my mouth without losing it...

@jessieelliott3157

3 жыл бұрын

Oh Tracie I'm so so sorry.

@tracievendetta1908

3 жыл бұрын

@@jessieelliott3157 🤗

@queencerseilannister3519

3 жыл бұрын

I'm so sorry for your loss. 😪❤

@tracievendetta1908

3 жыл бұрын

@@queencerseilannister3519 Thank you 🤗 I wouldn't wish this pain on my worst enemy!

@tracievendetta1908

3 жыл бұрын

@@donna6592 🤗

She no longer looks like the parent who would do anything to find her daughter. She looks more like a guilty party trying to prove her innocence.

@Hillr2249

3 жыл бұрын

Truth

@mistyoglesby2577

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@danamillerhiggs4322

3 жыл бұрын

They had already found her daughter dead. She wants to dispel the myths so that they will concentrate on finding her daughter. I like her . I dont agree with the pageants even for scholarships. But I think she has maintained herself in order to get their cooperation . If shes not at least polite the media would shut her down and she would get nowhere. Shes also aware that the public is already blaming the victim.You would not like to see me in that situation. Even knowing that I needed to be calm to get their help and support.....my mother bear paws would have left blood on the screen.

@mulgakoldas2692

3 жыл бұрын

She died of cancer

@JCX-9

3 жыл бұрын

@@danamillerhiggs4322 read some of the books written about this case and once you have some facts you might change your mind about this woman.

"I'm the mother." What a strange thing to say. Why not say, I'm her mother ?

@fchristenson1030

9 ай бұрын

...Because then you put it in the close and "personal" tense! She was distancing herself from the situation!

@iamthatiam1618

8 ай бұрын

She said it like she was only Jonbenet's babysitter for a couple of days out of a week.

Why write a ransom note and leave the child behind you can only get ransom if you have the child

Still at the beginning of this video, but that 911 call, what always got me was her saying “the mother.” I can’t get past that. I’m 31 years old and had to go to the doctor recently. My mom filled out my forms, as I was too ill to do so. She didn’t see the back side, so the nurse decided to help. When asking our relationship, my mama replied, “I’m her mother.” Additionally, another car hit mine a few months ago (this was all 2020, of course...) and I called my mom for a ride as my car was totaled. She barged past officers and exclaimed, “I’m her mother” multiple times. Even as a child, she’s has never said she was “the mother.” Those distancing words have chilled me to the bone to this day.

@loup3

3 жыл бұрын

I think this was done because the other child was involved somehow. Then 'The mother' makes a little more sense. What do you think?

@legacyjai9003

3 жыл бұрын

I always say when I’m doing form with my daughter “who are you”, “the mother”...I Call My Mom “The Woman Who Birth Me”...SonEveryone is different

@marybethodonnell8420

3 жыл бұрын

Pageant crowds and acting term. She did seem broken or very disassociated even after the police left. My opinion is it is sadly common when how I see as profit or income from mom's job is #1 - make sure priority is on childrens' compliance with the industry rules. I don't believe they care who brings or trains the kids. Very sad and just wrong.

@yyxy.oncesaid

3 жыл бұрын

Nothing wrong her saying that.I say I'm the father.

@catherineb196

3 жыл бұрын

@@yyxy.oncesaid yes, true, but it’s the context. My father would say the same thing when picking me up from school, but on a 911 call may be totally different. Actually had to call 911 for my father about 6 months ago and when they asked my relation I said “I’m his daughter, he’s my Daddy” (insurance company needed the recording for their payout, and we got the copies too...). It all just depends

The ransom note is such a huge issue, not only because the handwriting looks so much like Patsy’s, but also because it’s written on her writing pad, and her pen...and there were many practice notes before the final note. As she herself said, ransom notes aren’t usually written on the spot, when they can get caught by staying any extra time.

@teresa1185

3 жыл бұрын

All that, and what’s the point of a ransom note demanding money when you don’t collect.

@carlovincetti4538

3 жыл бұрын

It made no sense as to why she wasn't charged for covering up this murder. All you need to do is prove she wrote the note and that guilt will show cover-up and obstruction of justice. Without any conviction for the murder.

Mark: You wouldn't be able to maintain heightened emotions for more than 10 minutes. 3 year old child: Hold my sippy cup. Also, when Patsy said "I'm THE mother" and not "I'm HER mother". Well, that tell you everything you need to know right there.

@DonnaBrooks

10 ай бұрын

"Well, that tell you everything you need to know right there." It does? That doesn't tell me ANYTHING. And it doesn't tell you anything either. You are grasping at anything to confirm your existing opinion (your judgement of guilty). It's confirmation bias & nit-picking. I hope some day people judge you as harshly & as readily as you judge others.

What I don't understand is why they didn't look throughout the whole house for their daughter. I know it was a really big house, but still I would be searching top to bottom. It seems strange that it took so long to find her body.

@SPORT2932

10 ай бұрын

Well the police searched the basement and didn't find her.

@user-nq8hj5tw2p

5 ай бұрын

Because they had to wait until they had the right audience for "the big reveal ".

In the 911 call she says “I’m the mother” not her mother. Also doesn’t give her daughters name. 🤨

@beez991

8 ай бұрын

Also says we have a kidnapping or there's been a kidnapping. Weird to say. I would say someone kidnapped my child!

I think the lady is quite dissociated from her child. In a prior interview, she once stated, "I loved THAT child" (not I loved MY child). In this interview, when the 9-1-1 call is played, we hear her say "I'm the mother" (Not, I'm her mother.) Something just isn't right.

@pookiepookie8669

3 жыл бұрын

Just said the same thing! Too detached.

@michalsiletsky2939

3 жыл бұрын

I thought the same thing. Why say that child, it sounds very ditched

@Danielle33384

3 жыл бұрын

@@whatever2105 yeah it isn’t as weird as people may think to speak in that way

@Sunnysidestoriesandmusic

3 жыл бұрын

the autistic brother did it but I don't think he meant for her to die.

@fgray7680

3 жыл бұрын

The lack of sorrow always gets me...

I am from the same state/culture in which Patsy was raised. I was also next-door neighbors with a friend of Patsy’s who was Miss WV the year following Patsy’s “reign”. As a point of fact, People magazine ran a photo of the wrong Miss WV during this scandal…it was my neighbor/friend who was a dead-ringer-look-alike to Patsy when they were young. In spite of all of these 2nd degree associations with Patsy, I still could feel little sympathy because I felt her interviews to be so highly suspicious. Our common friend never voiced an opinion on the case, so I was not biased by her, it was just a gut feeling. I hope I’m correct because I would hate to be thinking this if she was guiltless of harming her daughter, or at least having knowledge of the perpetrator of her daughter’s death. As a side note: I think these pageants for girls this young are abominable and do permanent harm to the girls…it’s repulsive to see them sexualized in such a manner.

@DonnaBrooks

10 ай бұрын

I agree. The IMPORTANT takeaway from all this is to stop these horrible pageants & the sexualization of children. People should take all the attention they give to this case to working to improve the lives of ALL children! We'd have a much better world. But people would rather speculate & pass judgement based on confirmation bias because those things are EASY, whereas changing the world to make it a better, safer place is DIFFICULT.

@matildagreene1744

10 ай бұрын

I agree. Little girls in make up taught to move like adult women. Disgusting. 🤮 Should be outlawed. 😡 In this male controlled world...Uncle Pervy likes the pageants..so they will stay. Added is the photoshopping of babies with make up on.....:( now days. WTF..Only promoting pedophilia ..these women who allow it must be pretty naive.

almost sounded like "what did you do" in 911 in end of sound clip to me.

@nbenefiel

4 ай бұрын

That is not present in the actual 911 call. There is so much false and edited material floating around KZread that it’s hard to tell truth from lies. In the actual 911 call, which I have listened to at least 100 times, Patsy spoke only to the operator. The BPD did many enhancements of the call but could find nothing. If they had killed JonBenet or were trying to protect Burke, they would have removed the body from the house and dropped it somewhere it was unlikely to be found, not put it in the basement and called the police. It makes no sense and fits none of the evidence.

Being an unlikable cold controlling person does not make you a murderer. Making an innocent child perform while dressed in a hyper- sexualised way with her hair and makeup like an adult does make you a child abuser in my opinion. What a sad story this is!

@jamieshelton2892

3 жыл бұрын

The woman was clearly obsessed with “appearances.”

@rbstark45

3 жыл бұрын

Who ever thinks that these little girls looked sexy, are really a pedophile. However, I wouldn't put my little girl in pageants because of the perverts that are out there. I also think that sometimes the children don't really want to spend so much time practicing and would like to be just little girls.

@paulamyers275

3 жыл бұрын

And yet women still put their kids in adult cloths and expect pedi is not to come knocking

@jeanandre6998

3 жыл бұрын

@@rbstark45 you’re absolutely right

@tenderheart7530

3 жыл бұрын

@ Ruth Maynard Patsy was living vicariously through her daughter. Wasn’t there signs of sexual abuse?

Note was in her handwriting. Multiple "practice" letters found in home. Guilty AF, use logic. You literally cannot explain away my first two sentences. I don't know WHO in the house actually did it, but the mother and father know and were involved. PERIOD.

@nickyphoenix2470

3 жыл бұрын

I didn’t know that .. and they still got away with it. That’s outrageous, obviously had friends in high places

@Beastiboo

3 жыл бұрын

I would like to read more about all of the practice letters found...

@lottesrensen8004

3 жыл бұрын

There were one so called practiceletter with only half a sentence and if someone else tried to copy her handwriting it makes more sense than she would write so it could be identified and why would she need practise for doing that. Why would she keep pen and paper and the practice paper it doesn't make sense. Likewise the brush used as garotte....who do something so revealing not to mention the bonus sum ect. This are not stupid people who would the reveal themself?

@krazyk8592

3 жыл бұрын

@@lottesrensen8004 Nope. There were three, and with multiple sentences/paragraphs.

@carlovincetti4538

3 жыл бұрын

Writing the note is the guilt of a cover-up and obstruction of justice.

It seems to me especially after watching this interview that Patsy knew MUCH MORE than what she's saying in the interview. She never talks about her late daughter, her qualities, or her personality. It's only about themselves, the parents especially herself Patsy, and not her daughter, grieving the loss. IMO guilty as charged.

@chuckschillingvideos

Жыл бұрын

Yeppers. She knew every last thing that happened that night.

@grandmamoses6977

10 ай бұрын

Yep Patsy did know much more because she wrote the script to cover up an accidental hanging or a suicide.

@micnorton9487

5 ай бұрын

YEAH but,, that's what the British guy was saying, that her extremely poor public performance kind of tends to make us distrust and dislike her, clouding our judgment... The REAL points are the facts of the case, that stupid Ransom note, the fact that the poor girl was still in the house, you can't really blame the Ramsey's for lawyering up because they are of course the upper crust but the point of THAT is,, the lawyers in this case screwed up any chance of getting any real emotional response out of especially Patsy because of coaching and all those "experts and specialists" that just seemed to be coming out of the woodwork giving the Ramseys advice and all sorts of information...... Awful generous of them, can't help wondering if they were paid by the Ramsey's BATTERIES of lawyers though but in any case,, WHERE'S the real emotion? OJ Simpson at least made clear he was never going to rest until he caught the real killer, of course he was golfing the next day but that's kind of the point that whatever emotion they felt for their daughter pretty much evaporated even before they called the cops that morning.... That,, and the fact that Patsy was on so many tranquilizers that she probably couldn't even drive herself to these interviews, which isn't a crime but usually when one is grieving they want to go through the healthy grieving process and not pack it all in till later...... But I guess Patsy didn't have a problem with that......

Are the people who know what they are doing the same ones who let the crime scene be severely compromised?

If you had a child kidnapped, as she stated in the beginning, wouldn’t you wait for Professionals to come and check the crime scene meticulously before you called in friends to come over and mess things up?

@kelseymariel2127

3 жыл бұрын

And more importantly, why wouldn’t you turn that house upside down looking for her? I would check every crevice in that house. Not to mention if one of my children was “missing” I’d want the other one in my sight or in my arms immediately. They just leave him up in his room staring at the ceiling apparently.

@ohdear2275

3 жыл бұрын

I think she wanted someone to come over and find her daughter's body before the police did. Insuring a messed up crime scene.

@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823

3 жыл бұрын

Where were the competent cops, tho? Not all are of course THIS stupid, but this is pretty much insanely stupid. Move the body, not ONCE, but TWICE? Really?

@kelseymariel2127

3 жыл бұрын

@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 John Ramsey had already destroyed any crime scene by removing the tape across her mouth and bringing her body upstairs.

@leisaparker8095

3 жыл бұрын

@@kelseymariel2127 this exactly.....there was no need to worry about burke....they know who the killer is.....

Three times I hear, “What did you do?” right after, “Hurry, hurry, hurry!”

@TonjaP

3 жыл бұрын

That is what I heard.

@dawn5227

3 жыл бұрын

Same, I heard "what did you do, what did you do" the panic heard in her voice on the 911 call was the panic thats natural. Im sure She was panicked on behalf of the person that committed the murder, it was her son, she was scared for him.

@giannadedmond6447

3 жыл бұрын

The son was just a little child at the time. They believed it was a pedophile who shortly after committed suicide.

@lorny4u

3 жыл бұрын

That's what I think too

@ellemontgomery1037

3 жыл бұрын

Parents aren’t going to protect their child’s killer....unless it’s another one of their children that did the killing. Especially, if that’s the only one they have left. We may one day learn who killed her. That is, if Burke one day confesses because he can’t live with the fact that he clobbered his sister over the head with a flashlight.

The little "joke" about Greg Hartley and waterboarding chilled me to the bone, given the fact that he is an "Interregator" for the U.S. government.

@j.rebekah8605

Жыл бұрын

It was at least concerning, yes

There are 2 red flags here, that didn't occur I would believe the "intruder" story. 1. Ransom note. What sort of stupid murderer or kidnapper would stick around in a house with everybody at home, turn the light on, and write a 3-page letter, risking somebody waking up and finding him there? 2. Hanging up on the 911 operator (!!!) to call friends to come over, while I know my house is a crime scene with important clues that must be analyzed by the Police and not destroyed by a bunch of people.. ( I can't imagine myself hanging up on the operator anyway while I've told them that my child got kidnapped, I would be on the line until the Police arrived telling them as much information as I could.) These things alone already would indicate that the parents are involved.

@southernbygrace3274

4 ай бұрын

1. There was another case a few blocks away of a little girl who woke up with a strange man’s hand over her mouth. He assaulted her and her mom came in and he jumped out of the 2nd story window. The father was out of town, and the daughter and mother had gone to the movies and out to dinner, and had been gone for several hours the police believe he had gotten into the house and waited for them all that time if they were gone and until they were in bed. The Ramsey’s house was enormous. Someone could have easily been hiding and they’d have never known. They had been gone all the previous night to a party. 2. Remember this was 1996. The general public didn’t know as much about crime, scene, investigation, police procedures, etc. like we do now because of social media and technology. Also, Boulder was a very small, seemingly safe town that had never had a murder until then, especially the murder of a child. Just some things to consider.

@edinak5805

4 ай бұрын

@rnbygrace3274 I heard about that, it could have been the same person who killed JonBenet, but the parents are still guilty of misleading the Police. Maybe initially they thought Burke killed her, that is why they went that far like writing that stupid ransome note, and by the time they realized it wasn't their son it was too late to go back. So I didn't say they were guilty of killing their daughter, or Burke killed her, but the parents were definitely lying the whole time.

@nbenefiel

4 ай бұрын

@@edinak5805The Boulder Police leaked a lot of lies about the Ramseys. They knew within 21/2 weeks of the murder that the Ramseys had not killed their daughter but they had already leaked these lies to the media. They were not about to come out and admit that they totally f’d this case up.

@JCX-9

4 ай бұрын

Another weird thing was they had all their friends come to the house and they were cleaning up and moving stuff so basically any possible evidence got contaminated. I am sure the father was smart enough where he wouldn’t let such a thing to happen unless that was his motive.

@JCX-9

4 ай бұрын

Another thing was the neighbors heard the girl scream in the middle of the night, the mother was up all night never went to sleep was packing for next day trip, yet she didn’t hear her daughter scream but neighbors did? If the mother was up she would have to hear the intruder and her daughter. Read so many books about this case and everything points to previous child sexual abuse as noticed and recorded by her pediatrician. There is so much evidence that most don’t know about but they go on lamenting about parents being innocent because they only know few things but try to be experts on a very complicated and troubled case.

I saw an interview with Patsy and her husband about a year after the murder. She answered every question in detail, even about how her daughter was found. and never shed a tear. But when the interviewer asked her If they ever find the killer, what should their punishment be, she literally lost it and started balling. Seriously, I figured it was one of the family, because of the response. Why would anybody describe the horrible death of their child calmly and then lose it when asked what should happen to the killer? No, one on that program at the time even commented on that, but I thought it was obvious.

@marcellatoby

3 жыл бұрын

Sometimes we have to stop crying..I am an example of that.I cried all my tears away..It does not do any good for anyone.

@sallyjones7737

3 жыл бұрын

By the Time Patsy and John did any TV shows Patsy was already being proscribed strong medications to help her get through the day and these dull your senses and emotions enabling you to function somewhat normally Patsy and John Ramsey only ever appeared on tv to keep Jon Benet's name in the spotlight in the hope that someone would see and understand the horror of her death and help them to solve the crime, Patsy knew every tiny detail of the crime because it was her child that had suffered this torture but she wanted the world to know all the details, many people thought her or john or Burke were responsible for the murder so she was defensive which if you had gone through the same horrors as they had you can bet you to would be to, she never did herself any favours by appearing on tv her depressed state filled with drugs to cope made her seem to many as over baring, entitled and controlling but she had endured months of being under the spotlight with people and Boulder police believing she was guilty to me she was brave to do a tv appearance in her state

@kanoosh78

3 жыл бұрын

@@marcellatoby I think it's different for everyone, the grief process, but i will say this: crying makes ME feel better. Shortly following their deaths, I was cried out of tears for my partner, my mom and my dad. I felt like I couldn't cry another tear. But then I would find something of theirs or hear a song we used to dig, or revisit a memory of one of them, and the tears would flow. I always feel better after a good cry.

@MH_297

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting observation

@ladybgail

3 жыл бұрын

That is strange. I know this is nothing like having your child killed because I want to cry just thinking about it. My mom was diagnosed with Dementia. I was responsible for taking care of her needs after she was put in a nursing home. Biggest regret of my life. The point is, all those years I cried so much and I still do thinking I could have done more for her. And the night she died was devastating. When we had the funeral I could not cry. Do you know it took me a year to get my tears back. I felt I was a terrible daughter for not crying. I felt a relief. And that was wrong. I loved her so much. Someone told me I used up most of my tears the years leading up to her death. And the night she died I was crying and apologizing to her. The preacher thought it was a coping mechanism. I guess we don’t t know how people will react. I just know loosing a child would just put me out. I don’t know why I shared that. Maybe it was her coping mechanism. But I don’t think so.

Retired 9-1-1 dispatcher here. I am struck by how closely Patsy is listening to and answering the dispatcher's questions. That is not the behavior I experienced with distressed callers, especially callers who were reporting something terrible happening to a close loved one. They tended to speak too rapidly and in elevated tones as though they couldn't get the words out of their mouth quickly enough--hardly pausing to breathe. Often I would have to say "Slow down and take a breath so I can understand you". To me, it seems like Patsy has written a script for her call and is "acting" her part.

@terrarayner8766

2 жыл бұрын

No exceptions? Maybe she was forcing herself to get thru it so she could look for her daughter?

@rheamickens3128

2 жыл бұрын

Speaking as someone who has unfortunately had to make a few 911 calls under extreme duress, I agree. True, sheer panic has a distinct sound and overall tone. You are reduced to nothing but raw, animalistic instinct. Any distinguished vocabulary is non existent. You're blurting nonsensical words, not carefully listening to and answering questions. True, some are more competent under extreme stress than others, but if you've been on either side, you can just tell. It's not really something you can explain.

@korodwyer1270

2 жыл бұрын

I'm always suspicious of a person who hangs up on the 911 operator. If you're in crises you hang on to every word they say.

@korodwyer1270

2 жыл бұрын

@@angtxsun4460 3 pages! crazy.

@korodwyer1270

2 жыл бұрын

@@Justiceforpets there are patterns to look for. behavior/linguistic data is a science.

if they were poor and their child was dead in the house with no evidence of a break in theyd be charged and locked up.

@chuckschillingvideos

Жыл бұрын

And rightly so.

@keepitreal665

Жыл бұрын

@chuckschilling The point being that they did not get charged for the crime,there was no intruder Pasty wrote the note on her own paper and the child was sexualised and had past history for sex ual abuse.They get away with it because of money and connections....to be clear as you seem to have misunderstanding my other comment

@chuckschillingvideos

Жыл бұрын

@@keepitreal665 I am as convinced as you seem to be that it is only money and influence that kept either Patsy or John or their son (or any combination of the three) from being charged in this case. Because that is where the evidence leads us.

@alenel-rp3ri

Жыл бұрын

Yes. With a long interregation.

Why does she answer all questions while husband stands by and gives nods or occasional comments?

As a mother who lost a child, I couldn't pull myself together 4 almost 3 years!!

@christinajill5358

3 жыл бұрын

I'm so sorry dear. I hope you are covered with love and support and if you ever feel sad. Just know it'll be okay. That's so very true though. This is so odd...

@wavetranquility4243

3 жыл бұрын

😢😢😢😢 I’m so sorry that you lost your child. My heart aches for any parent that has to endure that pain. Sending love to you. I believe you will be reunited with your child in Heaven. I hope I don’t offend you saying that. ❤️

@zovalentine7305

3 жыл бұрын

My grandmother lost her youngest child (my uncle & best friend). He had epileptic seizure & drown in the bathtub. She NEVER got over it.

There was absolutely no reaction when interviewer said ‘your child was killed, Brutally’, surely you would flinch and show the pain and horror of hearing those words, even if you have heard them many times before.

58:07 Patsy’s covetousness of the story could merely be an expression of her rage at having been so violated, her daughter was taken from her but then the story of her loss had also been taken from her. AND, even still, I agree with Chase that this is a bizarre manner for her to relate to the situation. The narcissism is breath-taking.

@nbenefiel

4 ай бұрын

In the weeks following the murder, Patsy was heavily drugged. She could barely leave her bed. She was crying constantly. She had to get through the memorial, the funeral, the Jan1 CNN interview and the various police interrogations.

@willm4577

3 ай бұрын

@@nbenefiel I am referring to the parents' choices of publishing photos of themselves and not photos of the victim on the front and back covers of the book, choices which were made much much later. I find this to be a strange manner for which to relate to this tragedy. It strikes me as startlingly narcissistic, bizarre. Moreover, I was not investigating this crime, but it seems to me one of the fundamental problems with the Ramseys' credibility lies in the strange avoidance, perhaps even obfuscation, of what would have been an immediate source of attention on that strange morning the day after Christmas--the freshly fallen snow. The existence or non-existence of tracks would have been investigated by the Ramseys immediately at daybreak, I would think. Before calling all of the 'sets' of friends to come traipsing around the crime scene. Again, this was a heinous tragedy. JonBenet was the victim. The Ramseys' behavior was utterly bizarre, to my mind. Also, the Ramseys did not consent to being interviewed by police for about four months. This is not the behavior of innocent people, to my mind.

@nbenefiel

3 ай бұрын

@@willm4577 I don’t think the parents were really keen on the way their daughter’s pageant videos had been slowed down and the music changed. Nor did they appreciate some dolt from the photo mart selling the photos of her autopsy to the media. The book certainly had photos of both JonBenet and Burke but the book was mainly about their experience with the BPD and the media.

There is a pause in Patsy's phone call to 911. Apparently the operator is not buying the situation and after the pause, Patsy tries to persuade the operator by shouting in panic.

I really love the structure of you experts unpacking each clip, and then showing it again so that I can try to see what you have explained. A total fan!

I think most of her behavior can be explained by the fact that she is a narcissist. It doesn’t mean she was guilty, but it explains almost everything you point out about her.

@freedomfirst5557

3 жыл бұрын

By that logic, all murderer's behavior can be explained by narcissism. Seven ones do not make ten......ten ones make ten. It's the sum of ALL of the behaviors, etc, etc.

@alideasy4147

3 жыл бұрын

VERY TRUE! her ugly and better than narcissist attitude does or does not ya know what I mean

@dirkkruisheer

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agreed!

@smpotts173

2 жыл бұрын

@@freedomfirst5557 That's interesting. I wonder how many murderers aren't Narcissists or Sociopaths? There is an awesome psychologist , Dr. Ramani, who has tons of videos here on Narcissism etc. A guy on medcircle, here interviews her about Sociopathy and Psychopathy and explains a bunch of very confusing psych terms. Some are traits, but not a diagnosis, are all Narcissists Sociopaths or are all Sociopaths Narcissists ......

@smpotts173

2 жыл бұрын

@@angtxsun4460 Yes, I believe premeditation determines the degree of a murder charge. I'm not sure about crimes of passion and anger management. The laws regarding this vary greatly and reflect sociological, cultural norms, etc I think I know what you meant regarding anger management.......literally not being able to manage anger in a specific circumstance. But it brings up what might be argued that if someone who has a history, and has been required to complete anger management training previous, should have been able to draw on their training. Or....would it be considered a mitigating factor?

all I heard was "please hurry hurry hurry" I think her demeanor makes her unlikeable...but there is a huge difference between unlikeable and guilty of murder. I bet after a few years of being grilled, people saying you murdered your kid, LOSING your kid, the police not doing the finest investigation... I am not surprised she is snarky. I totally get it. Very sad situation.

@justjosie8963

Жыл бұрын

I agree, yet I would have cooperated from day one of the investigation. How does this happen? How does your child wind up in that condition in your home, shortly after you've returned home from a big Christmas party? With pineapple in her tummy, after you've said she definitely had none, yet there's a bowl of it left on your kitchen counter. Why do their stories no flow? Why does the note read so ridiculously? Why did the writer put the pen back in it's place? Do you really believe someone climbed in that window, had access to the whole house, stole her out of bed, down to basement, at some point wrote a 3page ransom note, and rewrote after practice copy, put pen back in it's holder, took child to abuse and murder her, then climb back out the window? Parents are always the first suspects. Why not cooperate completely and clear yourself so they can find the evidence that would be there if an intruder had been there. This person did ALL of this without leaving a trace! Not a hair, not a fingerprint, nothing..

Definitely someone in the house , family is covering. They hired so many people to get input on ways to respond

@carlabryan277

11 ай бұрын

So obvious

@nbenefiel

4 ай бұрын

Why do you ignore all of the actual evidence? It never ceases to amaze me. Name one piece of evidence admissible in court that incriminates any of the Ramseys. The DNA alone, totally rules them out as does all the rest. There is a reason none of the family were ever charged with this crime and it was not corruption. It was lack of evidence.

I'd really like to see what you make of Burke Ramsey's interview with Dr Phil. He displays some very interesting body language.

@debrashepard6770

3 жыл бұрын

He’s just a different kind of a young man, I don’t believe he killed her, I think it was done accidentally by John or Patsy. I think he’s been molesting her & Patsy knew it & caught him & she flipped out & they got into a big fight & one of them accidentally killed her & covered it up

@debrashepard6770

3 жыл бұрын

The phone call did it for me , they did it ! They covered it up !!

@dreamcrazy36

3 жыл бұрын

The one on you tube cuts the part out that he snuck downstairs that night after everyone went to bed to play with his new toy!!

@laurakyburz8165

3 жыл бұрын

BellaLeo, I would like the groups interpretation of Burke’s interview. I couldn’t watch much he gave me the creeps!!!

@BellaLeoLicorice

3 жыл бұрын

@@laurakyburz8165 Yes - some say it is because they believe he is on the autistic spectrum but I've never seen anyone on the spectrum behave like he did. Also he didn't appear to be on the AS in that footage of when he was interviewed as a child. I think there was some major jealousy going on with his sister. Jon Benet was the star of the show and he was sick of it. I think he injured her in anger. Then John Ramsy, thinking she was dying sped things up with the garrote and Patsy planned and carried out the cover up.

I think what stands out most to many people in this interview are two things: the lack of sorrow and the lack of transparency on the part of the parents. I think these experts were very thorough & competent.

@faydenereed4056

3 жыл бұрын

A year later! She can’t be crying every minute for a year!

@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823

3 жыл бұрын

I disagree. I think the cops here, especially that woman (sorry to say, because people will take it to mean ALL female police are incompetent) was a total dumbass. Moved the body twice. Good job.

The way she has put on her makeup perfectly For her image I don't think a woman who has lost a child would care about this issue

@j.rebekah8605

Жыл бұрын

It's the only thing a mother in that situation could control.... It's her go-to to wear makeup and look good it's probably a morning ritual I mean if you were someone who wore suits would you wear sweatpants five years after your child died? You're confusing grief with looking like a slob.

Logically, it makes no sense. You would turn in your spouse so fast if they murdered your child. The only thing that makes sense is covering for a guilty child.

@user-nk2js5rg5p

10 күн бұрын

I agree

@darrylschultz9395

8 күн бұрын

Me 3!

Who says "I'm the mother?" Should have been "I'm her mother." That part sounds like she reading a script in her mind.

@cindyk4324

2 жыл бұрын

To me, that sounds like “I’M the mother,” with a narcissistic emphasis on herself (attention MUST be paid) and minimal on her late daughter.

@debradavis9312

2 жыл бұрын

Yes your right. She shows her true self without even realizing it.There is something fishy about her.

My 3 year old son was killed in front of me in a freak accident 31 years ago & I can’t recall a thing I said to the 000 (I’m in Australia) dispatcher. I know that I called my mother & husband when the paramedics were working on him. Even now, all of these years later, I feel panic & dread describing what happened. I’m a retired psychologist & I am completely unable to control those emotions; I can’t comprehend how someone can discuss the first moments of discovering her murdered child was missing so coldly!

@jacquesmalecaut6098

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, you're right. Also, god blessed your lost soul... I believe he is in the best seat in heaven right now

@FlowerChyld43

3 жыл бұрын

Oh my God I'm so very sorry for the terrible loss you have had to endure. 😥

@lirpa1981

3 жыл бұрын

As a mother I just broke reading this. I could t imagine! You’re stronger than you know! God Bless!

@86crud

3 жыл бұрын

Discovering she was missing and discovering she was murdered are two very different things, and this woman experienced both of them. If she's talking about being in the moment of one, she may not sound like you would expect her to sound while talking about the other. I think people underestimate the effects of time passing, and the effects of gaining strength and resolve. I went through a similar experience with two of my grandchildren. I send love to your family.

@JoAnnA-od6fx

3 жыл бұрын

My heart breaks for you. But its possible to find a way out of that Hell and hurt in your heart and head and find a way to love yourself again. Yeah...just sayin

As a mom I would definitely be telling the dispatch hurry up get patrol cars looking for a 2 ft , white , brown , wearing this that ! Not saying absolutely nothing helpful to find your child! Big red flags!

I've always been on the fence about this case and loved hearing your take on it!

I appreciate that you are listening to your fans. Thanks for this one. Love you guys.😊

@TheBehaviorPanel

3 жыл бұрын

Oh no, don’t forget... If you don’t watch? We have no “show”. Thank you for watching it. ❤️

@jojersey4081

3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree!

@kcjr2323

3 жыл бұрын

Yes!!!

@zovalentine7305

3 жыл бұрын

Please do John Bennett Ramsey.

Listening to this, the Madeleine McCann "abducted child" case sprang to mind. Not many people warmed to the McCann parents either as they came across cold and defensive and unhelpful with the investigation. May there be justice for both Madeleine McCann and Jonbenet Ramsey........one day.

@katyg3873

3 жыл бұрын

The McCann parents killed her. My dad was friends with one of the metropolitan police detectives that went out to Portugal. The general consensus was that it was a negligent accident(sleeping pill overdose ) but they got rid of the body, but the Portuguese police messed it up so much they didn’t have a case.

@christinewilde110

3 жыл бұрын

I agree the mother drugged the children and the father got rid of the body. The parents and friends gave conflicting accounts. The parents, especially the mother would not answer questions and the British Government got them home asap where they were not questioned by British police but have spent 14 million pounds covering up their crime. Felt sorry for the Portugese police.

@terryskidmore6739

3 жыл бұрын

I saw a report about this recently. He seems like a viable suspect. I believe he is a German citizen.

@Michelle-pc6gp

3 жыл бұрын

@@joannietrotter2344 you realise the killer has been arrested, right? They were favourable because they were right. The McCanns didn’t kill their daughter.

@Michelle-pc6gp

3 жыл бұрын

@@christinewilde110 so you don’t believe the man arrested for Madeleine’s murder is guilty?

I distinctly heard, “What did you do?”......TWICE.

I guess I never felt she was being untruthful. I always felt she was angry, frustrated and devastated that the police and fbi had failed to investigate.

@heloramos82

10 ай бұрын

And , she was protecting her 9 year old maybe not because she "knows" he is guilty but because she absolutely knows he didnt do anything and she is holding to the son she's got left.

I don't believe that Patsy killed her daughter but I think she knew who did.

@larsgsanger3105

3 жыл бұрын

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@westcoastgal4078

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely and it all points to the son, sadly.

@brendareed8412

3 жыл бұрын

@@westcoastgal4078 My bet is on the father.

@westcoastgal4078

3 жыл бұрын

@@brendareed8412 curious, why do you say?

@mariyamniyaz

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

I always thought the brother killed his sister , the parents found out, and did not want to lose both of their children so they protected him.

@thehauntedpineapple6851

2 жыл бұрын

@Jill Gott, THAT is exactly what I have always felt, to my very core!

@eperon

2 жыл бұрын

I agree- they didn’t want to lose their son, AND they wanted to protect his future from such a stigma.

@ellecee453

2 жыл бұрын

I still think that could be true. I think the parents either knew who killed that poor little girl, and tried to cover it up because it was one of them, or they knew who the outsider was who killed that poor little girl, and they decided they were going to take care of the perpetrator themselves. All of their stage managing the situation from the very beginning, says to me they probably knew who did this.

@pibly674

2 жыл бұрын

@@ellecee453 Exactly.

@shychameleon

2 жыл бұрын

Or it was an accident. They had to come up with some bogus story. In L.E. for 11 years and I call BS on the someone outside the family responsible for the girl’s death.

I have seen the Ransom note and many samples of Patsy’s writing. She definitely wrote that note. It’s clearly her handwriting. But these people were “connected” in that area. Someone is lying when they say differently!!!

@matildagreene1744

Жыл бұрын

Too funny how P's attitude seemed to be ok with people. She was appalled that something happened to upset her perfect world. Whatever happened is twisted and sick and both the parents knew EXACTLY what happened...gotta save face when ya got big bucks.

@SPORT2932

10 ай бұрын

Google "Chris Wolf handwriting". What do you think?

Patsy is likely to be a narcissist. She was living through the child and something affected this triggering rage. She would not want to lose her prize possession but she may have been angry enough to cause the death.

I can’t get past the fact that your child is missing and there’s a space, a closet, a cupboard, a corner, a nook, a cranny that you haven’t searched two or three times, never mind an entire room. I mean, it’s nuts. Surely all of us had an experience of a missing child, however temporarily and even if you kind of know they aren’t in the house, you still look- and then you look again- and then you think you might not have looked properly so you look again! You just don’t not look

@jari6560

2 жыл бұрын

The cop missed it , not the Ramsay’s

@clareshaughnessy2745

2 жыл бұрын

@@jari6560 are you kidding me?? It wasn’t the police officer’s child. If you got up and your child isn’t in her bed, when would you stop looking? I WOULD’NT stop looking. Just think about losing, I don’t know, your phone, you’d keep looking all over the house, just in case. But this is your child! Not only would every room be checked, the garden would be checked, the neighbours would be asked. The idea that there was an entire space in that house that those parents didn’t look in, BLOWS MY MIND

@ChristinaBiasca

2 жыл бұрын

They found her within a few hours. It was a basement not the main part of the house. They thought the police looked everywhere and they’re in shock. Their house is also large enough for two staircases so not exactly easy to just check the whole thing quickly.

@clareshaughnessy2745

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChristinaBiasca nope sorry, I’m just not having it. Are you a parent? Can you honestly think of your baby child not being in her bed when you wake in the morning and say to me you wouldn’t be checking every inch of the house? Call the police by all means, do what you have to do, but then, what? Sit down? Stop searching because the house is too big? I don’t see that you can really believe that. As for shocked- I, like most parents, have temporarily lost a child, even if it was only 10 minutes and I was in a shop, I was more than in shock, I was frantic, almost insane with worry. You think anyone could have said to me, stop looking? It’s pointless? If any parent could honestly say to me that they would, I’d tell them they were either a liar or there’s something seriously missing.

@ChristinaBiasca

2 жыл бұрын

@@clareshaughnessy2745 yeah I have 6 kids. The first thing I would do is call the police. I would be panicked but I wouldn’t waste time getting police involved while checking the house after finding a note. My husband I’m sure would be the one checking all over. I’ve never had a basement, but I can see how it would be a last place to look if it wasn’t used.

Patsy wrote the note, she knows her daughter is dead, it's real grief mixed with the story to cover up the whole thing that is stressing her out, because it's rehearsed but when the 911 operator started asking her questions it thru her monologue off.

@larsgsanger3105

3 жыл бұрын

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I would have to say she’s pretty high on the scale of narcissism. At least that’s what I’m picking up. It’s all about her and how’s she’s perceived. Her being in pageants growing up could possibly explain this. The grandiosity in some of her statements definitely raises some red flags. It’s almost portrayed as, how dare you challenge me. And the death of her daughter has definitely put the attention on her. And narcissistic people will go to great lengths to get that attention they believe they deserve. Sometimes crossing that line into sociopathy. My answer is. Not all narcissists are sociopaths. But all sociopaths are narcissists.

@Moluccan56

10 ай бұрын

And Patsy was the rat bag who did it. I get so angry when adults destroy their children. She was destroying her when she was alive.

You have it backwards about the letter being long as being unusual. It was long for two reasons. One - she had oodles of time after she murdered her daughter. Two - and most importantly - the letter was directed at her husband!!!!!!!!!!! Therefore, she wanted to purge herself of all of her animosity against him. It was so revealing. That letter was far more damning than any body language. Patsy was a cancer patient and learned different language constructs that a cancer patient learns in therapy that she applied to that letter. So, unless one of those "individuals in that group of that small foreign faction" had gone to cancer therapy, this points right to Patsy and no one else on the planet as the murderer. Read that letter and understand just who that murderer really was. Also, this murder of that little girl by her own mother was particularly cruel. She garroted her own daughter for whatever reason that can only be speculated. I think Patsy was exceptionally angry with her daughter that one time so much so that her mind snapped out of control. It's a shame.

She had stage 4 cancer diagnosed in 1993 & went through almost two years of treatment including chemo. Her daughter was murdered in 1996. I went through two years of chemo the worst most torturous treatment devised and I will tell you it takes years to think straight & get back to normalcy. So I often wondered, between the chemo brain & the shocking loss of her precious daughter, if she just wasn't always on the edge of hysteria & her thinking was impaired from prescribed drugs.

@leisaparker8095

3 жыл бұрын

thats called karma

@summercrook7521

3 жыл бұрын

@@leisaparker8095 what??! That is absolutely ridiculous!

Sounds like "what did you do?" to me. Loved Mark's Maggie Thatcher impression 🤣

I have 2 words. She's guilty.

Chase in the 911 analysis, "the" ransom note. Great point. It's often the simplest and smallest things that can help bring clarity to chaos. Edit... Listening to the call again, she says she found a ransom letter, the second time she mentions letter she uses the word the...

@nbenefiel

4 ай бұрын

BFD who cares what word she used. You are hopelessly nitpicking. I’d love to see you argue that in court.

I don't believe them. The father says very little and the mother is like a control freak. It just doesn't add up. If your child disappeared out of the blue, most people would be miserable, depressed or on medication to deal with the trauma of it all even after 5 years. These two look fit and healthy and not a care in the world. They have a " its in the past vibe" going on. You never get over your children til the day you die. They are hiding something.

@DallasNewman777

3 жыл бұрын

Patsy died in 2006.

@elizabethguenther7319

3 жыл бұрын

In the year or so before JonBenet's death, Patsy had a remission of her ovarian cancer. She beat it. I think she wasn't going to lay down and take it.

@vickitaylor6912

3 жыл бұрын

Power attention money and there treating there kids like objects not human being

@danamillerhiggs4322

3 жыл бұрын

The whole family was completely cleared by the DNA evidence

@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823

3 жыл бұрын

SHE is. I don't think the father knew anything. That WEIRD son, tho...? That kid gives me the friggin creeps something fierce.

Please do the son, Burke⚘

@2Sugarbears

3 жыл бұрын

Oh yeh, something fishy there.

@rablanchard981

3 жыл бұрын

I believe it was him. He comes across like a sociopath in his aunt videos. I can imagine these two parents in full panic driven grief deciding they couldn't lose both children.

@karenmorris5433

3 жыл бұрын

I also believe it was Burke.

@zovalentine7305

3 жыл бұрын

Burke's smirking is what really gets my goats outta the barn!

That yellow paper with a ridiculously long note is like a bright spotlight on somebody living in that house for me. It's an attempt to distract. It's in Patsy's handwriting. A lady detective alone in the house with the father said she knew the truth that morning, and got her gun ready while he was going to the basement. I have always thought the parents knew. A housekeeper said the child had a bowel movement problem at night. I also always thought these parents who do these beauty pageants with little kids are doing wrong. I see it as abuse

I see a hardened woman that has shut down public access to her emotional grieving self. She doesn’t trust anyone at this point. She is well compartmentalising. She’s been accused to the point that she isn’t even bothering to try to do PR. I don’t believe she did it. She may well be covering for another person but I don’t know anything about her son or husband to even guess. She’s low empathy. She’s been in pageants and a pageant mom. Narcissism would be on the high end.

@deadgrandma9407

Жыл бұрын

I'm shocked how bad these "experts" are.

@rebeccasaft3105

Жыл бұрын

I agree with you.

I would love to see the panel do some of these public health officials or politicians delivering public health statements regarding the current 'pandemic.'

@Sheskis

3 жыл бұрын

Agree100%

@313eve

3 жыл бұрын

It's a pandemic, not a "pandemic"

@matjohn4092

3 жыл бұрын

She said 'pandemic' not "pandemic"

@alanaadams7440

3 жыл бұрын

Good idea

@waylonnicholson371

3 жыл бұрын

@@matjohn4092 she said ‘pandemic.’ Not ‘pandemic’.

Before I watch, I was actually thinking over the last few days I would love for you all to analyze JonBenet’s brothers interview with Dr.Phil

@danamillerhiggs4322

3 жыл бұрын

Too late ....that little kid was so damaged. Im surprised he can function. Maybe his appearance is affected by an antidepressant . Can you even.remember much at nine? He processed everything like a little kid too.

@zovalentine7305

3 жыл бұрын

Please do John Bennett Ramsey

She comes off as a cold, competitive woman.

@nikkiturnup1688

7 ай бұрын

Yes I agree

@angelleese9018

7 ай бұрын

She was also very used to being on camera, so who she shows on camera isn’t who she really is. (Was) Technically.

@javayna2353

7 ай бұрын

They both talk about it as though they are disconnected from it.

I heard " Burke. honey. please. what did you do? what did you do?" -P "what did I do?" -B (I heard her say Burke right before the second to last "Patsy", almost at the same time.)

@jhiselebardot

6 ай бұрын

Definitely heard “What did you do?”

I have taken 911 calls.. Occasionally I would have panicked callers hang up on me after giving base information. I don’t know why, maybe they just arent thinking, but sometimes it was tough to keep people on the phone in emergency situations.

@SouthCountyGal

3 жыл бұрын

Unless they're seeking reassurance, I don't think people see a reason to stay on the phone. When I have called in emergency situations, I have felt a strong need to get off the phone and DO something.

@mod8179

3 жыл бұрын

I get that (both above comments) but in many situations staying on 911 is the best option due to the specialized training many operators have that can actually help. Depends on the situation, but it’s usually best to stay calm and allow them to do their job to get you the very best help. It’s hard to send proper help to someone that doesn’t provide enough information.

@carlovincetti4538

3 жыл бұрын

I could see that as well because we don't want to remain on the phone in a panicked situation. To say it was to call her friends and you cant do that if you already on the phone, was to say her business was more important than police business at that time giving vital information they may need. She did it to get off the phone before being asked to stay on the line.

She is ex beauty pageant so very used to controlling any negative emotions and just offering something acceptable. She is conditioned to look her best at all times. So judging her by 'normal' standards just isn't going to work. We don't know if she went completely to pieces in private. In robot mode she appears to be very unlikable, and there is a bias against her for putting her little girl through the pageant circuit and maybe living vicariously through her in some way.

@xenaworiore2691

2 жыл бұрын

Fallopia yeah that is another thing she is so posed and cold the way she said I was crazy upset cause my daughter is still doing let s say pipi....? Right does she knows that some kids have that problems? .yeah I hope she didn't fake her death or asks to be gone !?.......well personality problems u know what they called it?... Anyway yes split personalities. Do that jeaulousy.

I disagree with Mark Bowden. The breathing was too regular. It's not panic breathing. She worked herself into an excited state. If you are about to fight in the ring, you change your breathing - you breath faster and harder...you pound your gloves together. and work a major muscle group to help change your breathing...you get worked up!....you work up the juices. Her breathing is too controlled....she's doing it on purpose...not panic at all.

@lindawaxman570

11 ай бұрын

Agree

I am no detective or expert but, and ITIS a big but. I am convinced I can recognize Patsys hand writing in the ransom note. She wrote it for sure. If she didn’t carry out the killing she definitely knows who did.😊

@SandyDiVa

20 күн бұрын

I agree…i always thought it was the son, husband or other family member like a brother, and she was covering for them. I lean towards the son because her thought process would be, then i lose both of my children. I don’t think she did it. I do think she was covering for a family member, so i do feel for her. Edit: i just learned from the comments that killer came forward. Im looking into it now

@AskAlex1999

14 күн бұрын

Absolutely!

Love Mark’s impression of Margaret Thatcher! 😂

"Help, my daughter's been kidnapped!'.. That's what you'd say if you're a kidnapped child's mother. "We have a kidnapping here" is what you'd say if you were a third party such as a emergency person reporting to other third party personnel. Impersonal.

@trawlins396

2 жыл бұрын

I agree that that statement was always very odd.

The random note was written on paper from inside their house. Who's going to break in, use paper they find and take the time to write such a long and complicated ransom note just after murdering a child or even just before? And why a ransom amount the exact same as his bonus? Who else knew the amount?

@AprilSilvers-py4zj

5 ай бұрын

Absolutely

@DrikkiVyvi

4 ай бұрын

Good point

@loridobos7174

2 ай бұрын

The ransom note was a ruse, most likely the person who did this was waiting inside the home. Not far from the Ramsay home a second little girl was attacked and molested, her mother heard the commotion and went into her bedroom finding a strange man who fled out of the window. The second little girl was in the same dance school as JonBenet.