The patient abused the poor guy so much when he was a kid that just seeing his abuser again gave him a panic attack. Yeah moral obligations or not, if pressing charges weren't enough to stop a child molester then I can understand the nurses feelings. Glad Karma got to that child abuser in the end

@darkopz

Жыл бұрын

It’s interesting because for me, the nurses killed him. And the examiner knew what happened and got the hint from the doctor in the end.

@MJavierZorrilla

Жыл бұрын

that wasn't karma, karma would it been 'jail time as the prison bitch", or immobilized for life knowing who did it and why; dead is a escape not a punishment.

@theiran

Жыл бұрын

As a doctor or nurse, you have to leave your personal feelings out of the equation. If you can't do the job as assigned, then you need to find another job. For example, a friend was telling me of one of her classmates when she was going to college to be a psychologist. Said classmate, when having to do supervised counseling to patients, she refused to counsel LGBT on religious basis. She was told that she had to do so as part of the course work or she wouldn't graduate. She was also told that if she dropped and went to another college, that said college would be informed about her aversion. So, 3 1/2 years into her Masters, she had to change her degree.

@AlyssMa7rin

Жыл бұрын

It only takes once to scar a child for life.

@HulklingsBoyfriend

Жыл бұрын

@@darkopz they didn't kill him, the epi needles were indeed from a previous patient. He died from a theochromacytoma.

Ethan’s face when Monique told him what that guy did to Hank the nurse, imagine being told that your patient is a child molester and abused someone you work with. Hippocratic oath or not, must be tough. I could never do this job

@thickymcghee7681

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, because this happens all the time? LOL! Get a grip. It's a TV show.

@nurselex2487

Жыл бұрын

I'ma nurse...we can refuse an assignment especially if it will put yourself, your patient, or your license at risk.

@SA-ft4gu

Жыл бұрын

@@thickymcghee7681 dude. It can happen in real life. So many different patients come in hospitals everyday God know who they actually are

@PatRNBSN

Жыл бұрын

@@thickymcghee7681 It's real life. In my 45 years as a nurse, I have taken care of many prisoners who were brought to my hospital. It is an unwritten rule that we are never told why they are prisoners because it could affect our care of them. Only once did the guard tell us - and the patient was a child molester. By then he had received "justice" from the other prisoners in the past, so he had the mental capacity of a baby. He received professional care as our patient, but as far as compassion in our hearts - you could probably say that was a different story.

@natalyguevara3066

Жыл бұрын

He is a doctor, he has to be professional and not have judgemental thoughts. He has a job to do even if it means saving child molestars, etc.

As soon as Ethan realized that there was a conflict and he wouldn’t get optimal care I would have transferred him to a different hospital.

@BrunoThePup93

Жыл бұрын

That would be the ethical choice but not the moral choice.

@andyt2k

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but you're using logic and stuff doctors/nurses would actually do, these people would have been fired a dozen times over for stuff they do in this show

@theiran

Жыл бұрын

@@BrunoThePup93 morality is subjective. What is moral for some is immoral for others.

@alfobootidir2474

Жыл бұрын

true. also if I were a ch0m0ped and I saw a victim on my medical staff, I would probably go to different hospital.... unless I'm particularly narcistic or sadistic.

@Handlebrake2

Жыл бұрын

Why not a different ward?

"Enough to keep me occupied" Literally his last words.

@viridianacortes9642

Жыл бұрын

What’s most terrifying is that he seems so friendly and normal. If this was another episode, he could have just been some nice piano teacher with heart problems.

@PreerachatPREEPRAM

3 ай бұрын

it ask for water

@stephenking5852

3 ай бұрын

@@PreerachatPREEPRAMgood point.

@Highkey-Loki

2 ай бұрын

​@@viridianacortes9642My grandfather was friendly and normal too. Nobody had a clue about what he was doing to me.

@viridianacortes9642

2 ай бұрын

@@Highkey-Loki I’m sorry for what you went through. I hope you heal and have a wonderful life now that you’ve survived all that.

It’s very illegal and wrong obviously…but my God does it feel good to see it ya know.

@adamruiz6460

Жыл бұрын

Morality and Law are never black and white. Most of the time, everyone can agree that a child abuser doesn't deserve life, or at least free will anymore. Unfortunately, the law protects them from losing their life so vigilante justice is usually the way to go

@zelle8351

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@tryxoso2015

Жыл бұрын

Just illegal.

@emich714

Жыл бұрын

@@tryxoso2015 but soooo good to see

@dtownblastinsalvi62

Жыл бұрын

@@Irishrebel092 been to prison the ones who get dealt with by other inmates are inmates with little time we are separated from things like that child molester some even brag about it in their side which is sick af.

The main issue is that they took so long to tell Dr Choi so he was left running around not knowing why no one was acting normally.

@Anurepa

3 ай бұрын

At the same time, you feel for the nurses. They’re trying to support their friend in their own way, but also keep his secret because it’s not their business to tell. Survivors of SA often have to cope with a massive amount of shame, not to mention the additional stigma around male SA survivors, and it likely took him an immense amount of effort to even tell the women who corralled around him for support. The idea of telling his supervisor - another man - while also coping with the fact that his abuser was not only in the same place, but also that he was responsible for caring for him, touching him, interacting with him… the poor guy was undoubtedly overwhelmed, and the women around him did their best to respect his privacy and his mental and emotional wellbeing for as long as they could.

@tekcomputers

3 ай бұрын

​@@Anurepa Their profession does not allow them the withhold care out of personal reasons. None of them should be nurses. It is disturbing that rampant betrayal of ethics was engaged in by the general nursing staff and nothing was done. If it were me in place of that Doctor the nursing staff would have been brought up on ethics violations and drummed out of the nursing profession permanently. People like that can't be working in a emergency room.... or really ANYWHERE in medicine. Their careers would have effectively been over and their nursing degrees effective turned into toilet paper.

@wamengxiong0409

Ай бұрын

​@@Anurepa while all that is true, you gotta admit, all they have to do is tell the boss that there's a personal reason going on and that they are going to need to move the patient to another hospital. I cannot empathize with SA victims, but it doesn't mean losing your job over this is going to help anyone.

The people commenting on the ethics of this seem to have mistaken this for a documentary. It’s a fictional show where the bad guy gets what he deserves. It’s a temporary escape in a world where justice for victims is a rarity.

@rajaniwolf9466

Жыл бұрын

I think it's important to have discussions about ethics, because we encounter ethical dilemmas in our real lives that we need to be able to work through. On the other hand, that is a good point; it's nice to watch a show where the bad guy gets punished to get some escape from the real world.

@seishin2900

Жыл бұрын

You seem to forget alot of these episodes are based on real life events. If you dont want part of the discussion then you're free to ignore it and go else where. Otherwise I think it's important for people to have mature conversations on these topics because that how we as people learn.

@valned3776

Жыл бұрын

@@seishin2900 I’ll stay right here thanks 😊 Any comment on here is someone’s opinion and part of a discussion. Disagreeing with a comment and sharing that is healthy and how we learn. If you aren’t capable of that, I’d advise you to follow your own advice and either ignore it or go elsewhere.

@neko_chan1598

Жыл бұрын

it's not all fictional tho...things like these do happen I bet. More so, the justice system is flawed either way in reality and in shows.

@cynthiamartinez8994

Жыл бұрын

@@valned3776 says the one incapable of continuing a valid argument they don’t want to discuss, because they disagree. Not to be rude, just making an observation, u seem to have contradicted yourself, because this person genuinely wanted to have a conversation about theirs and your opinion.

Dr. Choi did amazing in this situation, you can see he was trying to protect his nurses from getting hurt by this guy by lawsuits/liability issues. He did the autopsy off the books to make sure that if something wasn't wrong, he could help protect April. While at first glance it seems like he is protecting the abuser, he really is protecting his team.

@lavans5721

Жыл бұрын

And April is just the worst in this episode. Firstly, Dr. Choi comes up and asks out of concern for the abuse victim what's happening, and she shuts him out! Then, she acts like he knows what this patient did, when she's the one who stopped him from knowing! It's insane to me, because Dr.Choi went above and beyond this episode in terms of ethical duties and professional obligations, and it's treated like he's out of line for thinking a crew of people who were totally cool with mishandling a patient's care to the point of stabbing him with needles, might be responsible for the inexplicable amount of chemicals in his system.

@Kai-bf3qq

8 ай бұрын

@@lavans5721 I disagree with the first part, she shut him out and didn't tell him because it wasn't for her to tell and she was protecting the male nurse and his privacy

@lavans5721

8 ай бұрын

@@Kai-bf3qq except you can't both not tell someone about what's going on, and then get mad that the person doesn't know what's happening???

@Kai-bf3qq

8 ай бұрын

@@lavans5721 so you want her to violate the privacy of the nurse, or be completely fine with a child molester?

@lavans5721

8 ай бұрын

@@Kai-bf3qq said neither of those things, at all. You literally just assumed that of me. She just shouldn't be angry at Choi. From his perspective, he only knows something's wrong from the nurses treating the patient (he doesn't know is a child molester) horribly, by sticking him purposefully badly. You can either: a) tell Choi with the permission of the victim nurse, so he understands the situation and can manage it while being fair to the nurses b) tell him nothing, and not be mad at him when he questions why all the nurses are abusing what seems to him like an innocent person

I love how all the nurses go after him after his panic attack. It’s the sign of a good team IMO when they are there to support each other and that they drop everything to make sure one of their own is ok. But also can’t imagine how tough it is to see your abuser in your place of work knowing that well not in this case but in another case would’ve walked out

@JaxLittles

Жыл бұрын

If it were my workplace, it would only to get the gossip sadly.

@jasmin1574

Жыл бұрын

@@JaxLittles ^^ THIS. Most hospital workplaces, you’ll be crying in a corner by yourself while your fellow nurses just gossip about you

@howardcroft3748

Жыл бұрын

A good workplace? Kill patients on the word of one person? Do you trust your workmates enough to do life in prison for them?

@JR47846

Жыл бұрын

all this nurses should be in jail or losing there job at least there is a reason we have courts and not mob justice you trusting on a person word years after, even with the right procedures we get innocent people in jail

@GrandMasterKai

Жыл бұрын

He would be part of the LGBT as love is love right hahaa cant have it both ways haha!! leftist's logic

Dorris was definitely stabbing him 😂😂😂

@kiara198923

Жыл бұрын

Ikr

@ry.butterfly

Жыл бұрын

As she should 😌🏆

@Azulakayes

Жыл бұрын

I love her. I wish she had more of a story.

@brennettalorraine6318

Жыл бұрын

I swear

@dranixrush3306

Жыл бұрын

@@ry.butterfly No.

The male nurse did great acting u can see the fear in his eyes

@michaelkelley2727

Жыл бұрын

agreed, it's underrated

I had to see my abuser several days after he attacked me. I was 10 years old. I felt sick to my stomach and my heart was racing. It’s a horrible horrible feeling 🥹🥹

@traveltheworld8374

Жыл бұрын

That must have been so hard. I hope you are doing better now.

@lurtzy_

Жыл бұрын

Fake

@violencefan

Жыл бұрын

@@lurtzy_ gigachad really wouldn't like you

@dbeloved02

Жыл бұрын

@Southeastern Hub ❤

@snifferrr

Жыл бұрын

i was dating my abuser and i see him at high school every day, it makes me feel so nauseous. i know how you feel 🫂

his red, pasty face when he said "enough to keep me occupied" wouldve sent me over the edge having known what that doctor knew at that point...

I like the lead doctor. You can tell he is upset at what he knows and wants to confront the patient, but he puts his feeling aside to do his job when everyone around him cant, it shows true leadership.

@foolslayer9416

8 ай бұрын

I would give that monster the bare minimum treatment.

@wintersbabyy

7 ай бұрын

Yeah, but in some other episodes he definitely lets his feelings win tho, multiple times too. Seems like he is just a little bit okay with child molestation. Because why would he harass Nurse April like that.

@poopstick2711

7 ай бұрын

@@foolslayer9416 You aren't legally able to do that.

@poopstick2711

7 ай бұрын

@@wintersbabyy He didn't harass her. No one told him what was going on, as far as he knew they wern't giving him care because they just didnt want to.

@wintersbabyy

7 ай бұрын

@@poopstick2711 Clearly you have never seen the show. He knows how seriously April takes her job so he knows she would never refuse care to any patient for no reason. He is just always a douche in every episode, especially to her.

"Im a piano teacher" he happened to not mention the amazing fact that his identical twin who lived three doors down the road also taught piano to young boys .

@WinterFoxes22

Жыл бұрын

😂 oops

@SunBunz

Жыл бұрын

I actually thought, "what if this isn't the right guy?" hahah OOPS indeed!

@maxmccullough8548

Жыл бұрын

"I'm honestly surprised I can get business after they put my uncle on that registry."

@aaronjames3228

16 күн бұрын

What

This is such a tough spot for healthcare professionals. Especially when the victim is a coworker you care about, it’s hard to remove your feelings and remember that you as his doctor or nurse are not the judge of his past transgressions. You are there to offer him the adequate amount of care. That is it.

@eileensnow6153

Жыл бұрын

If I’m being honest with myself, I could never be a nurse for a lot of reasons, but this one is the most difficult. I would probably magically go deaf and blind when that man coded. “I need a glass of water.” “Oh look, it’s time for my lunch break!”

@viridianacortes9642

Жыл бұрын

I would probably just admit conflict of interest and get someone else to care for him.

@wow-11N6a29

10 ай бұрын

@@eileensnow6153that’s why you shouldn’t be a doctor, some people will shine in this area you will shine in another job (I just realised how passive aggressive this sounds I’m sorry it’s definitely not aggressive 😂)

@eileensnow6153

10 ай бұрын

@@wow-11N6a29 haha it’s okay, you’re right and I agree. It’s always good to know your own limitations!

@nahbruh2613

7 ай бұрын

It’s been a year but I want to remind you that YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM

Sadly child abuse has been swept under the rug in my life

@victorferreira8332

5 ай бұрын

Me too my teacher that beat me with a book and blackmail me and i was just 5 years old

@user-ep6qz3fq2h

4 ай бұрын

@@victorferreira8332 I kind of had that same scenario except mine were in Middle School believe it or not both 6 and 7th grade

@user-ep6qz3fq2h

4 ай бұрын

But on a real note it happened in elementary school too so that's a given but in my case I was transferred from one school to the next like a hot potato

As a nurse I'm with Dr. Choi. At the very least I would've told the head nurse (or doctor if asked) that for personal reasons I feel unable to provide the adequate care.

@Svol09

Жыл бұрын

All of them should be fired, all of them, and take their license away.

@sexichild2

Жыл бұрын

I agree and they should be fired..I'm a nurse and we have a job to do and it's our ethics to follow

@scottmc1855

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately it doesn't work like that. Doctor and nurses have to help everyone. Whether it's a mass shooter or a child molester. They don't get to pick and choose who they want to help. It's not a job for everyone.

@machazychaz

Жыл бұрын

@@scottmc1855 it... does work like that... of course not in a "this patient is annoying so I refuse" but if you can give a good reason (knowing his victim personally, affecting you emotionally ect. as long as you don't just... ignore it like the nurses did here) your superiors should have your back. It's a bit of a gray area legally because you don't have the history yourself but a sensible superior who remembers nurses are always understaffed isn't gonna fire you off you are reasonable.

@scottmc1855

Жыл бұрын

@@machazychaz - Yes, in certain circumstances a nurse or doctor can have themselves removed from a situation. And generally speaking a good boss would work with their employees and find a solution if it's available. But when every nurse refuses to help a patient in need... there is no alternative. Therefore, refusing the help a patient in need would be criminal.

The lady nurses comforting the male nurse that was scared was nice. Trauma sucks.

As someone whose abusers never got what they deserved watching this is so satisfying.

@12SlimJims

11 ай бұрын

I'm sorry for your suffering. The legal system definitely needs to be looked at again, but with cases like Johnny Depp and Amber Heard I can somewhat see why some victims aren't taken seriously.

@Shuyin781

9 ай бұрын

​@@12SlimJims that's not exactly a good example: Not only domestic violence cases are different from child abuse cases, the Depp v heard trial had an extreme slur and disinformation campain, led by the masculinists fans of Depp, that heavily influenced the outcome of the trial.

@brendanolt00

7 ай бұрын

This...🤦🏻‍♀️

@tobiaswalker7562

7 ай бұрын

Mine never got what they deserved. I doubt they ever will.

@brendanolt00

7 ай бұрын

@@tobiaswalker7562 Because it "never happened" and they "don't remember" anything...😤

I know that feeling. I worked at a fast food restaurant and I had to talk to my abuser (a regular customer). It’s a horrible gut wrenching feeling. He lives in the same town as me unfortunately. When I see him out in public I walk the other way.

@emilysarahmunch

11 ай бұрын

I'm so sorry that you have to go through this ❤ I'm sending you so much love!

@sinch4044

11 ай бұрын

Some day you will be healed enough to tell your story to the town and the whole world if you want it. I know you will. it might not be soon, but you will. Stay strong, and get out of that town when you're able, if that's something you think will help.

@zoilalulu3798

11 ай бұрын

I'm so sorry!

@wintersbabyy

7 ай бұрын

You handled his food and nothing happened to him?? Lmaoo. So many good people here. I hope my abuser never let’s his guard down around me, I’m not as nice as y’all are.

@wintersbabyy

7 ай бұрын

You handled his food and nothing happened to him?? Lmaoo. So many good people here. I hope my abuser never let’s his guard down around me, I’m not as nice as y’all are.

There was a similar case on law and order. Poor kid was traumatized even as an adult.

@theirishcailin333

Жыл бұрын

Yes you never get over it

@Mia-tz9hc

Жыл бұрын

It’s never leaves you. Even the name can trigger panic attacks/full on breakdowns in some victims.

@TheKarateDiva

10 ай бұрын

In that episode the kid actually became a child molester himself

@anthonymort5202

3 ай бұрын

​@@TheKarateDivaone of the best episodes

Super weird to see people in this comment section defending this guy so much. 30 years and plenty of students, who knows how many lives he must have ruined, but HIS must be protected? He got away scot-free, too.

@pythontron8710

Жыл бұрын

You have no sense of the implications of allowing doctors to pick and choose who they provide care to. In real life, what if this wasn’t even the right guy, and this cult of nurses kills him deliberately? Is that the kind of precedent you want to set?

@r00k9

Жыл бұрын

It’s more of the sense of medical practice and the nurses deliberately near borderline breaking the Hippocratic oath. Dude was horrible no doubt but still on the medical side of things all those nurses should be reprimanded for their actions against a patient either be pure or evil it’s their job

@AnvilMAn603

Жыл бұрын

@@r00k9 nurses dont take the oath but it doesnt who it is, they have a duty to provide care

@nipplecollector7818

Жыл бұрын

If Adolf himself came into the hospital, you still gotta provide medical care

@rai4119

Жыл бұрын

@@AnvilMAn603 where are you getting... nurses don't take the oath? according to the American Nurses Association, they do.

This here is why I’m glad I couldn’t be a doctor. No oath will protect that man from my wrath.

@ianfortuna9385

7 ай бұрын

You seem to be the only clear thinking person in the comment section

@wintersbabyy

7 ай бұрын

@@ianfortuna9385 sarcasm??

@ianfortuna9385

7 ай бұрын

@@wintersbabyy no dead serious everyone else is defending child molesters even though it’s “their job” its everyone moral obligation to punish child molesters and anyone who negates that duty cannot consider themselves a good citizen

@moe5020

7 ай бұрын

@@ianfortuna9385 You speak like a naive child. The doctors in this situation have no idea whether he even is a molester and it's not their job too judge him. Without order society breaks down if you allow people to just punish people based on their own feelings without due process and critical thinking then innocent people will be hurt, this goes double for Doctors, they swear oaths for a reason because their role in society is too important to be associated with the mess of crime or politics. If the courts decide to put a guilty patient on death row after thats fine but while in hospital the only duty the doctors have is keeping them alive

@KeKcP

4 ай бұрын

@@ianfortuna9385 do you live in a fairytale? you can't go around killing people because of past events

Unfortunately when you take an oath especially in the medical field you have to put patient care above your feelings. Even murders are supposed to be treated decently.

@reesaallen5474

Жыл бұрын

It’s funny how we pick and choose who gets the right to humane treatment. 😂😂

@ry.butterfly

Жыл бұрын

@@reesaallen5474 treat humane people humanely. Let the abusers be neglected. Sounds fair to me

@DorisPayne348

Жыл бұрын

Medical feel?

@craigclermond8001

Жыл бұрын

@@ry.butterfly, then you become no better than the abuser. so if you let someone die because you refused to help, for example, you then because just as heinous as the person you hated and open yourself up to others treating you the same. Always remember karma follows us. If you live on hate, then it comes back to you.

@kagenlim5271

Жыл бұрын

@@craigclermond8001 You know this is BS and yet you spout it

I love the "I can't find anything" "look one more time please" *1/2 second later* "Found it"

@PatRNBSN

Жыл бұрын

My mother had lung surgery. The pathologist said she had cancer. The doctor said check it again. Turns out she had lipoid pneumonia from vomiting mineral oil, and some of it she aspirated into her lungs. Glad the surgeon told the pathologist to check it again.

Geez I know it's fictional but as a nursing student it makes me wonder how I'd react in a situation like this. I suppose it's similar to how lawyers feel when they have to "defend" horrible people? Like it's their job. Sure you can turn down the task and have someone else do it if you're that uncomfortable but at the end of the day all patients need care. This just gets me choked up though

@IkesPimpHand

Жыл бұрын

Lawyers can't be good lawyers if they're good, honest people.

@rai4119

Жыл бұрын

@@IkesPimpHand that didn't make any sense. try again.

@PatRNBSN

Жыл бұрын

Retired nurse here with 45 years experience. Normally you are not told what the prisoner did to be incarcerated because it could affect his care. However, once we were told by the guard and the patient was a convicted child molester. He had the mental capacity of a baby by then because in the past the other prisoners delivered their own form of justice. While he received professional care, you can guess what we felt in our hearts. Like you said, we can refuse to accept a patient if there is some extenuating circumstance, or conflict of interest, but it gets tricky if no one wants to care for the patient. This is not the only scenario in which this type of conflict can happen. If such a conflict arises, your hospital will probably have someone who can help resolve it, such as a hospital chaplain, social worker or someone on the ethics committee. Or have the staff talk it out with your manager. Good luck in your studies - it is a wonderful profession in spite of all the difficult situations you may encounter.

@arynrowland862

Жыл бұрын

@Rai They’re saying that lawyers, in general, are crooked. That you can’t be a good person and a lawyer at the same time.

@PatRNBSN

Жыл бұрын

@@IkesPimpHand I asked my lawyer how they could defend certain people. He said they have to believe their clients. This lawyer was a real pitbull in court, but I also know he didn’t tolerate being lied to and cut ties with one of his clients for that reason.

If the patient (who clearly deserved what he got) did in fact pass "naturally", then.. Can someone who watched the full episode explain to me why there was 4 epi's in the trash? Still seems suspicious.

@chairle9303

Жыл бұрын

He did pass naturally, the Epi was from another patient and wasn’t cleared out, it’s a red flag for the entire episode

@HoneyBunny0912

Жыл бұрын

Could of been other epi pens from other patients and the doctors threw them away in the same trash which led up to 4

@johncostello6006

Жыл бұрын

I see.. so the nurses still weren't really doing their jobs correctly since they didn't log those 3 (most likely not, but potentially life threatening) uses of epi's.

@pucamisc

Жыл бұрын

@@chairle9303 red flag or red herring?

@chairle9303

Жыл бұрын

@@pucamisc damn I knew that wasn’t the right one

This is why I can’t work in the medical field, I would’ve done everything in my power to make sure he doesn’t leave that building in one piece

@TheIsopod06

Жыл бұрын

Same. I don’t think we are bad people. We aren’t weak enough to have mercy on monsters.

@jlopez240gaming7

26 күн бұрын

@@TheIsopod06Mercy isn’t weakness. That’s a dangerous to think. Mercy is why Humanity is still around.

@aaronjames3228

16 күн бұрын

​@@TheIsopod06no, if you want to hurt someone for any reason something is wrong with you

I can’t believe they didn’t immediately tell him what was going on. It’s his patient he has a right to know why no one will help him

@cottonrain520

Жыл бұрын

I get what you mean but at the same time, it was a serious matter, the nurse team only knew because they were there when the nurse had the mental breakdown after seeing his old instructor again. I do think they should’ve told him but I understand why none felt it was their right to. Even the nurse he did ask about it told him to ask someone else since it wasn’t suppose to be her business or her pain to share

@ry.butterfly

Жыл бұрын

It wasn't their story to tell.

@hialmondjoy4592

Жыл бұрын

@@ry.butterfly My thoughts exactly. Especially since sometimes, people don't want others to know what happened to them... People look at you and treat you differently... Or sometimes you're just not ready to face your trauma, or the questions that'll come with you revealing it... Sometimes revealing it unwillingly (even willingly) rehashes everything and can seriously damage mental health. It's why it's encouraged for people to tell others their own time if they want (assuming the crime isn't ongoing or in investigation of course).

@TheComet666

Жыл бұрын

I think they didn't want to tell him, cause they knew he would react the way he did. Tell them to follow the code.

@susanbob8285

Жыл бұрын

It’s a tv show

I thought the doctor didnt care about the nurse but when he talked to the monster patient you could tell he was disgusted

0:12 226 over 117?! As a guy who is dealing with Vegetative-vascular dystonia and hypertension I've gotten after Covid-19, that's one of my worst nightmares. Even 150 over 95 gets me all nauseous, but what he has... Damn.

@Daeyae

Жыл бұрын

mines usually anywere from 120/80 to 150/120, its a bad diastolic but not terrible, that systolic though... over 180 is bad bad

@m_d1905

Жыл бұрын

My ex used to get high BPs like that. You couldn't even tell until he developed a migraine from it. He was 200/150 and insisted on driving home. It's crazy.

@user-dl2dr6nm6q

Жыл бұрын

My normal is 125/80 to 130/80 at morning and 130/85 to 140/85 in the evening. I check my BP every day twice and has done so since beginning of March, ever since I was discharged from hospital. Normally, my BP doesn't give me problems, but since Covid and after it, I've also developed a case of meteopathy. In short, if a weather decides to play whack, my organism plays whack, and yesterday it nearly made me throw up...

@toomanyaccounts

Жыл бұрын

covid doesn't give you that. the vaccines do along with foot long bloodclots

@stringbeanii

Жыл бұрын

if it was that rate the pt would not be relaxed ,sat in a trolley, they'd be in extreme distress, clawing at their clothing and clutching their sides , possibly a lowered gcs and sweating, perhaps some dystopia.

As a nurse that works with the lowest of the low, I have to admit it takes a very special kind of person to work with this population. It most definitely is not for everyone, however we, as medical professionals took a Hippocratic oath to do no harm. Do these folks deserve it? Not up to me to decide. What is even more tragic is someone not making it through on my watch to give victims families the right to see the perpetrator answer for their crime and finally seek Justice for their loved one.

@user-mf5iz2bk6u

7 ай бұрын

I'm no doctor or any kind of medical officer or nurse and I'm not medically educated. I just know that I must do my job and I must do it right. But what happens if the client I'm working for/with is my SA? I'm in a bit of a mental pinch. My SA died peacefully while I have to live with the fact that I trusted him and he put his hands all over me and damaged me beyond repair. On a professional standpoint, regardless of who he is, I should still serve/work for him. But on a personal level, I feel like I want to projectile-shoot my vomit straight to his face. It's a double-edged sword, in a way.

@tsaligrass

7 ай бұрын

if the past 3 years proved, they disobey their oath. They made people violate their beliefs and forced them do things without their approval

@moe5020

7 ай бұрын

@@tsaligrass like what?

@tsaligrass

7 ай бұрын

@@moe5020 the clot shot and obey authortarin mandates for the scamdepmic

@tsaligrass

7 ай бұрын

@@moe5020 passing laws that violate 1st amdendment like michiagan law that makes it worse then misdemeanor for misgender someone

Why didn’t they say anything when the doctor first asked??? It could have saved a lot of trouble

@Eventidesis

Жыл бұрын

For the drama. Gets viewers curious about what's going on, and keeps them watching long enough for the reveal.

@kalypsobrooks6843

Жыл бұрын

@@Eventidesis fair enough. But, surely, there has to be a way to do that without making nurses behave like secretive, petty school girls (no offense the actors, they did amazing).

@Ermac97

Жыл бұрын

@@kalypsobrooks6843 Yep, I agree. They should've minded their own business. If wanting to take revenge against the abuser was an option, let the victim do it. Why should the coworkers suddenly become Batman wannabes and administer their own "justice?" Yes, the guy was a horrible human, being, but the nurses have a job to do. Either give the proper amount of care or quit.

@kalypsobrooks6843

Жыл бұрын

@@Ermac97 … I was thinking more in terms of police report and investigation into how he treats his other students, but that’s also an option - takes longer, and leaves room for more damage, but sure

@Eventidesis

Жыл бұрын

@@kalypsobrooks6843 Of course, there's a way. The directors just don't want to. And, really, it's not the first time the characters have made immoral/unethical choices with refusal to communicate; viewers still enjoy the show, irrespective of the drama, so why bother changing it?

I’m a former unit secretary/coordinator for a floor in a hospital and a patient murdered one of our nurses brothers and only received 6 years it was awful. She didn’t treat him but it was hard for him she cried the entire shift.

This show has that sweet 2000s - early 2010s aura, lighting and background soundtracks did the trick. Will definitely watch as I miss those years

@user-oo2op4pg3i

21 күн бұрын

This show began in 2015. But you were close.

i loved the fact that all the nurses were go after the abuser. true friendship lmfaooo

@jackinthebox9730

10 ай бұрын

It’s still not right in their workplace. They could have really hurt him and he could sue

@chloemariestrudel1311

7 ай бұрын

@@jackinthebox9730blah blah blah

@enkercodm9506

4 ай бұрын

@@chloemariestrudel1311wow what a very mature and thought provoking response thank you

All of this would’ve been avoided if they had just informed the doctor of what was going on from the get go. There was zero point in keeping him in the dark for something like this

@wamengxiong0409

Ай бұрын

Or, hear me out, tell the doc, "its something personal, so we need to move him to a different hospital...please"

If I had the opportunity, I’d take it too. This is why I work at a supermarket 😂

@shannarafryer3111

Жыл бұрын

Same this is why I WONT go into the medical field like the majority of my family

@JazzFlop212

Жыл бұрын

Lol not everyone pretending that a potential child molester patient is the only reason they didn’t go to medical school for 8 years

@M3LL0NGUM

Жыл бұрын

@@JazzFlop212 lol a child on the internet thinking making assumptions is funny

@CJ-jk9mp

Жыл бұрын

It's one thing to talk about killing someone but actually doing it is another...

No one who sexually abuses a child should go unpunished under Law, but with that is a legal system--including a Court of Justice. We shouldn't aim to live in a world where one accusation leads to conviction.

I do understand where the nurses are coming from but they do have to be professional no matter what the patient has done or is doing. The nurse has an ethical and humane profession and as such needs to extend that to every patient that comes under their care.

@TimberlakeTigerGirl

Жыл бұрын

Legally speaking, a nurse or a doctor, on an individual level, can refuse to treat a patient if emotional hindrance comes into play. If a nurse/doctor doesn't want to help a patient because he's a child molester, they can refuse to help. But they have to sign a document stating that this nurse/doctor stating why they refuse to help, and agree that they are not to be let anywhere near the patient and can't even enter the room. They'll simply be reassigned to another patient. As for the patient themselves, they'll either be assigned a new doctor or sent to another hospital. It's to prevent any conflict of interest and any real malpractice that could come about if a nurse/doctor has their judgement impaired due to emotions. Like what we saw from that one nurse who deliberately stabbed the guy with the needle while trying to draw blood. She obviously did that on purpose and should of been dismissed or terminated on the spot.

@RogueMustangMare

Жыл бұрын

@@TimberlakeTigerGirl that's understandable for Hank but for the other nurses they had no right to do what they did. I get they're mad that the guy hurt their friend but as we saw with one nurse she was almost in trouble for possibly killing the patient. If the Dr hadn't insisted that the doctor in the morgue look closer it could have ended badly for her.

@TimberlakeTigerGirl

Жыл бұрын

@@RogueMustangMare It's not just the victim of the guys actions; literally any doctor/nurse can sign a document saying they are refusing to treat a certain patient because they don't like them. As long as it's not an actual prejudice like racism or homophobia, they can drop out of helping a patient for any reason. This whole thing could of been avoided if Dr. Choi had simply gotten the nurses to sign reassignment papers. Or better yet just left them alone when they made it clear they didn't want to help the guy and found others who would.

The look on Choi's face at 5:02 is the "if i didn't have a career that i cared about you would be a bloody mess on the ground right now" look.

My dad is a murderer in Ely state prison. Solitary, he had prostate cancer, 12 years later he is still breathing and stubbornly was cured. I wish I had the nurses tending to him. He may be alive but unhappy and that's enough for me

Those ladies went to bat for him. I would have done the same damn thing no shame.

@craigclermond8001

Жыл бұрын

It's will the medical industry is going to sh*t. I assume you'd also tell a person who didn't get a vacc they deserve to die also. Now I know people aren't perfect, but when you dont have medical standards, you open the doctor to human rights abuses which makes you not much better than the person you condemn. I agree to have your friends back, but they should have removed the traumatized nurse from the floor, not decided to play god with the patient's life.

@Creepystalker102

Жыл бұрын

@@craigclermond8001 patients who choose to reject treatment also choose the consequences. Yes, if you get sick after purposefully refusing the only current treatment, you put the consequences of disease and even death on yourself. It’s no one’s fault but yours.

@craigclermond8001

Жыл бұрын

​@@Creepystalker102 point is the vacc doesn't stop you from getting sick or treat anything, so your point has no validity. Just a big pharma spouge to make money. Also, I agree if a person gets sick and dies, that's their choice. Thats is very different from a doctor choosing to let them die simply because he didn't like their decision. Ultimately the point I'm making is professionals have a higher standard than street joes. Everyone has their reasons for doing things. I'll bet you wouldn't tell a cancer patient they should die because they declined chemo.

@dranixrush3306

Жыл бұрын

@@Creepystalker102 How's that relevant or to say, to the point?

@yes_iam_bather

Жыл бұрын

@@craigclermond8001 are you comparing an anti-vaxxer to a pdf file

My abuser committed suicide many many years after the assault without ever having to Answer for what he did to me and countless others and yes there are others he abused. I suffered in silence for so long it messed with me mentally. I was 7 at the time and he was 16. His mom helped cover up the abuse. Being my mom’s best friend and my babysitter I was always left alone with him. Whenever she found out what he was doing to me she brainwashed me into believing I’d get in trouble not him. After a year of abuse and she finding out I wasn’t only one she hauled ass out of the state we lived in. Nothing was done about what he did to us girls. I found out some years ago that he’d committed suicide and honestly I’m more angry that he took the cowardly way out.

@rockersr.g.2410

Жыл бұрын

I can’t imagine the types of monsters that do the crime and then other monsters that defend them. I hope you’re able to heal

I just love how the nurses sticked together despite the ethical and moral issues with it 😂

This is why it is so important for a team to share with each other and trust each other. In an ER you need that bond in those hard times. What that poor character went through, people who do that don’t deserve to die because that is a release, but they definitely don’t deserve to live free or protected. Can’t find a body if there isn’t one to find.

This still doesn't explain why there was FOUR pens in the disposal ben...

@elliecohen3805

Жыл бұрын

Probably from a different patient

"Enough to keep me occupied" got a whole new meaning in this 💀💀

It feels so nice to see someone get what they deserve though

They could've avoided the whole ordeal if they had just told Dr. Choi in the beginning.

I agree with Ethan. It's just not our right. As medical staff, they have to do their jobs. No matter who they're dealing with.

@jackinthebox9730

10 ай бұрын

I agree

@FanyLI

8 ай бұрын

Disagree

@chas4456.

7 ай бұрын

I agree

@ladennayoung2939

6 ай бұрын

Yep.

@zerodragonsaiyen3268

6 ай бұрын

All the people that disagree with you just straight up shouldn’t be in the medical field

I can related to this episode a tad bit. I'm a healthcare worker and I work with all kinds of people. One time, I was taking a pretty talkative prisoner to his tests and he outright admitted to me that he molested minors and basically bragged about it. He was outright disgusting but I put that aside because its not my job to judge him. My job is to get him medical care. Even if you're a prisoner, no matter what you have done, you are still a patient like everyone else. I couldn't stand the guy, but that's just how it is. Imo, Ethan should have requested to have him moved to a different department because it was clear that the nurses were against him. In reality, April and Doris would have been fired too

I’m not a nurse, but I cannot honestly say that I would have treated that guy better if I were. People like that don’t deserve compassion and moralistic care.

@neuralwarp

6 ай бұрын

But you're happy to take their money.

Choi is in the right here, it does not matter the circumstances that occurred in the past, keep the nurse he molested out of the room, it is their job to render care to no matter who

@pulacascar179

Жыл бұрын

They can literally have their license revoked for refusing to serve treatment

@Samy-oz1gg

Жыл бұрын

@@pulacascar179 Healthcare workers can have a right to refuse care if they have been abused by a patient and also a couple of other exceptions. The patient is just transferred to a different care provider. You don't want a practitioner to begrudgingly work on a patient, because that runs the risk of the patient receiving second-rate healthcare. However, you can't refuse treatment if the situation is an emergency (as an EMT, I am not allowed to refuse to do CPR on a patient for any reason). Medical shows are awesome because they inspire people to work in the field, but they often relay extremely simplified processes to actual healthcare practice. This situation is dramatized, the nurse would simply not come in contact with the patient for the remainder of their treatment, and any nurse that treated the patient differently because of the situation would also likely be asked not to give care for the safety of the patient.

@darkopz

Жыл бұрын

@@pulacascar179 Doctors fire their patients all the time. I’m not sure where you’re getting your information from. Doctors do not have an obligation to treat a specific patient at the patients request.

@pulacascar179

Жыл бұрын

@@darkopz they can fire them if they want to. But they can’t promise treatment or not refuse treatment on paper and then suddenly refuse treating the patient

@theiran

Жыл бұрын

@@Samy-oz1gg All of the nurses were refusing to do any kind of care for this patient. That is something that can't be tolerated. I would have notified hospital administration of the issue and let their legal team iron it out.

I have friends who work in Law Enforcements. When they have to guard inmates that are on hospital visits, no one outside of the institution can know about the crimes that they committed for this very reason. Many people can get very emotional and let that dictate their actions. It could be the medical team or other patients and people nearby who were victims or know of any victims of those crimes. Thankfully the team in this show worked together and had an understanding.

@merlinshouseoffreereadings4641

11 ай бұрын

We could look it up. I worked at a hospital that had a state inmate floor. We knew what they did. We could look up their photo and info and next parole date. All that info is easily accessed. It’s public info.

@TheBreechie

10 ай бұрын

Here, in Australia, its a breach of the prisoners rights to tell anyone what they did - The rule has nothing to do with quality of health care should the crime be revealed.

it took dr. choi to go around nurses asking for WHY instead of any of the nurses coming forward and saying because we're discriminating him because our friend A got a bad history with him. it's not because he's just a child molester but because he's a child molester that has a history with one of the nurses. it became a personal thing after knowing that, but if he's unaffiliated with anyone, they would've treated him normally.

@jackinthebox9730

10 ай бұрын

Choi is the head doctor he should know why his nurses aren’t effectively testing his patient

@brie3679

7 ай бұрын

You’re making an assumption. If they’d found out he was a CM through other means, I’m sure the outcome would’ve been the same. I HOPE it would’ve been the same….

@snakeeyes8678

6 ай бұрын

@@brie3679it wouldn’t have as in the medical field, you have to treat them no matter what

@nathalytoledo6323

3 ай бұрын

Are you the writer? When do we have a new episode? No. Then stop making assumptions. I believe they would've acted the same.

It's not in the hospital's hands to determine someone's fate, even if they're horrible. The nerve on these nurses would've goten them fired on any reputable hospital

Not sure if it makes me a psychopath that if I was a nurse or doctor I'd have no problems treating the guy but soon as I'm off the clock and catch him in the streets he'd go missing 🤷🏽‍♂️

If this happened to me I would of told my supervisors I would like to transfer to a different patient due to personal matters and it could interfere with treatment.

"Or don't bother clocking back in" Only in shows like this a doctor has power to "fired" a nurse or say something like this and don't get un trouble.

I don't know what I would do if I had come across my abuser while I was working in a hospital. I hope I wouldn't do anything that would get me arrested, but I'm sure I'd be tempted.

@JabamiLain

17 күн бұрын

I'd stand up for you.

Great episode. But did Hanks parents not tell the other parents what happened?! I can't imagine he would have many students if they told everybody idk.

@1nfinitune533

Жыл бұрын

Maybe they did but they weren't believed. Or Hank told them but they didn't believe him. Or....Hank never told them for fear of what would happen

@merlinshouseoffreereadings4641

11 ай бұрын

Back in a time when you didn’t speak about abuse. You didn’t want others to know.

I don't know why I am watching medical drama clips as someone in the medical field? A little part of me dies inside every time they do something wrong in the medical shows.

@kialuvsyoo

Жыл бұрын

it's a show

@Lakadaisy_and_Foghorn

9 ай бұрын

I tell myself I'm studying by identifying everything wrong and what they should be doing instead

Bruh, just call Hank Voight, he'd handle it for you.

@rosewallace-brooker9124

Жыл бұрын

😝

@extremeheat9283

Жыл бұрын

Lmfao I love voight.

As a nurse, this folks would've gotten written up

"It's not our job to judge." But those whose job it is tend to ignore or fail at it. So where does that leave people who were wronged? A faulty justice system should be held accountable as well. Don't blame people for seeking their own justice, when they are failed by the same society that is supposed to protect them.

@Lakadaisy_and_Foghorn

9 ай бұрын

Still not our job to do some one else's for them. It's too easy to justify denying care to someone if you think you're morally in the right. There's entire groups of people unjustly being call child molesters in the media right now, some zealot misdescribing them could bring about this exact scenario. THAT'S why it's not our place to judge. No to protect the monsters, but the innocent who get mistaken for them.

@synskrim9173

2 ай бұрын

No. There’s so many things wrong with what you just said. What if someone was wrongly accused or mistaken for someone else? Then you just killed or harmed an innocent person. It’s unprofessional to say the least and extremely dangerous to have that mindset. I understand where you’re coming from, but when it is quite literally your job, absolutely not. Outside of work if something happened to him, I couldn’t gaf

The second it was a conflict of interest he should have been transferred. Doctors and nurses have 0 right to put ANYTHING above patient care, safety and rights. Keeping him there presented a clear and present risk.

@shirabe64

Жыл бұрын

I’m surprised there wasn’t a push to get Hank to contact other parents to warn them about him, maybe even get police involved. But this is a hospital drama, not police drama.

@flxwercxrpse1871

Жыл бұрын

He deserved what he got

@strangerinastrangeland3613

Жыл бұрын

Doctors and nurses are people too. Why do they not have the right to put morality and ethics above the job they had to swear to uphold ethics and morality on?

@ickysticky7

Жыл бұрын

@@strangerinastrangeland3613 they’re the ones that chose the job either treat the patient you’re given or quit

@Lakadaisy_and_Foghorn

9 ай бұрын

@@strangerinastrangeland3613 Because they have the right to not be on the team, but not the right to actively interfere in care. Particularly in academic medical centers which typically get medicaid funding, breaking EMTALA as these nurses did can result in massive fines and removal of government funding. I say this as a healthcare provider who is an SA survivor myself.

This is TV I totally get it but it's scary the ppl who say this is justified irl... You are nurse/Dr you are not a judge you don't know full stories & not you're job to do any of that. You treat patients equally it's the oath you take & should be taken seriously

@ladyofrillwater

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Putting aside the ethics involved, if he'd lived, they'd have put the whole hospital at risk for legal ramifications. Incredibly unprofessional. They should have informed the doctor and if they couldn't reasonably provide care to the patient, they should have informed the doctor of that as well and allowed him to find someone who could.

If a Nurse let my abuser die, I'd be on their side and I'd make sure they didnt get fired. Hippocratic oath be damned

@williambeck2372

Жыл бұрын

Cool cool cool so she gets to be Judge Jury and Executioner.

@noahv1479

Жыл бұрын

I partially disagree. If someone is so willing to throw out the ethics and ideals behind the Hippocratic Oath, especially due to personal bias (be it deserved or not), then they never really wanted to be a doctor in the first place, and they need to either leave or be removed from the occupation. Also, no offense, but you would stand no chance of actually keeping this nurse on the hospital’s employ. Now, that being said, if this happened, you and I would both be supporting this nurse, not for making the right ethical choice, but the right moral one…

@CXY96

Жыл бұрын

This is why you're not a physician lmao

@sabir1208

Жыл бұрын

@@CXY96 this is exactly why I'm not a physician lol

@leila.7754

Жыл бұрын

As much as it’s deserved, one person isn’t worth ur license being terminated. The medical field isn’t your ideal choice if you won’t put ur patients first over your feelings. While ur safety is also important, if someone dies because of you, that’s your fault and you don’t deserve to stay with ur license and job. That’s why careers like this are extremely stressful for the people that can’t handle extreme cases like molestation. It’s fine to feel angry. But if you’re gonna let anger make u kill a patient that was assigned to you, you’re a hazard in that work place

I get the nurses’ feelings, but that type of behavior opens them all up to lawsuits and only leads to them losing their jobs and the abuser getting a huge payday.

Ethan has his own hang ups. He would let his own biases affect his treatment of patient as well. I believe he has I can’t remember exactly but I’m pretty sure he has.

@laikingwu4912

Жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure too. I remember an episode where he was annoyed by a woman who had her baby right outside the hospital, which later had the police involved. But in this case Ethan told the patient what to tell the police to save her from being arrested.

I love MadTV. They always have some real comedic skits.

@xcelestialsongx

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

I wish patient care was a thing now. Now ER docs are so mean & some nurses too. I have sickle cell disease. It's rare to get a good physician nowadays.

Drchoi is a awesome person stay safe yall.

What's worse is the nurses wouldn't tell Ethan anything. They're like nah, we're going to give you the cold shoulder, too.

Kudos to all the nurses!

@kathconserv

11 ай бұрын

Sadly you don’t get it and I’m a nurse.

@jackinthebox9730

10 ай бұрын

Yea deliberately hurting a patient

@trixieagustina6163

8 ай бұрын

@@jackinthebox9730He deserved it lmao

What a lucky break or the mastermind got to the medical examiner first, I'm not judging game recognizes game, I play way to much hitman

Keep up your hard work MD TV

Doctors and nurses helped both sides during WW2, as bad as it is they have took an oath to help them medically. You dont have to like them but you still have to help them

Believe it or I met my abusers and bullies years after I graduated high school some got severely hurt by my hands and some karma got to them first and HARD I never had a panic attack but I know the gut wrenching feeling of seeing the person or people that hurt you in your youth.

What a coincidence the guy had a rare condition that explained away his sudden death. But that still doesn't explain the four empty ampules in the trash... And for people not working in the medical field, it's probably difficult to understand just how unethical the nurses' behavior was. Bottom line, it doesn't matter who your patient is, you treat them all the same. The minute you make an exception it becomes easier to do it again and then again, and soon you have people being treated differently due to differences in race, religion, political ideology, etc... I don't know any real hospital unit that would have tolerated an entire nursing staff ignoring a doctor's order and patient the way they did, if only for the obvious legal exposure. In the end, you don't have to like the guy, you don't even have to be pleasant -- just professional.

And no tears were shed

It is true that you're supposed to treat every patient but people have been murdered for considerably less.

As a survivor. Good job from the nurses would be happy to be in that team

@ThatVirgoChickk

10 ай бұрын

I'm a survivor as well and They could have chose NOT to care for him. If you can't separate your own feelings from your job don't be a fucking nurse!

I love watching this show, love the cast great job!!❤❤

@voiceacticon667

Жыл бұрын

I can’t continue watching the show because of Dr. Manning

Quite the ethical quandary. I wouldn't blame someone either way, for not wanting to treat him or upholding their hippocratic oath. I know it's technically wrong, but I honestly wouldn't blame someone for euthanizing a child molester. In my eyes, you cannot possibly go lower than harming a child.

Wow this was powerful great actors too

I had a pheochromocytoma a few years ago. They're almost impossible to see and it sends constant adrenaline into your blood. I was always in fight or fought mode. My reading heart rate was between 90 and 100 for YEARS , along with other things

Hey Ethan. Nurses don’t draw blood! Call the phlebotomist.

@srsusansummers3070

3 ай бұрын

They do in ER

I was watching the video and it suddenly stopped at 0:27 while he was inhaling but I didn’t realize right away so for a couple of seconds I was just thinking wow this guy can hold his breath for a really long time

This is why my mom refused to let me or my sisters have any private lessons in anything. Tutoring, swimming, singing... It was always under her watch. It felt a little suffocating back then, but now I fully understand why she did it and I couldn't be happier. You simply can't trust people to take care of your babies. It's a sad, disgusting world we live in.

@JabamiLain

17 күн бұрын

God bless your mother.

I still think the nurses did it. They hated that man.

@courtneywimberley5250

Жыл бұрын

How do you know it wasnt hank who did it just saying

@selkiesmusings2717

Жыл бұрын

I’d buy whoever did it dinner. Child predators deserve to be put down like mad dogs. Life is too good for that filth

@desheathomas7593

Жыл бұрын

@@courtneywimberley5250 Hank left early

@MarianaRodrigues-mt6ry

Жыл бұрын

And they're absolutely right.

@Alice-ct6ex

Жыл бұрын

It would be morally wrong to help that monster, saving his life would lead to more hurt innocents, the justice system failed, and sometimes you have to help society.

what ill never understand how the nurses took it upon themselves to start harming the dude, regardless of the past they practically would be keeping care from a patient

@kathconserv

9 ай бұрын

Maybe you don’t get the point.

@ShadowN3koo

9 ай бұрын

oh i do@@kathconserv

When I used to take violin lessons, I worked with my teachers in a company building, not their homes.

the dismissiveness of men (the male doctor) when faced with other male abusers..... That doctor, is pathetic, weak, and should be ashamed. And BRAVA to all the women who 1) was supportive of the victim and 2) stood by the victim.

My abuser offed himself when I and a few other kids came forward, thank god, but I absolutely understand that poor man’s reaction. If I even meet someone with the same name or a similar face, or acts similar, I flip. Bless everyone in there for taking that man’s side immediately, I don’t know if I could still work with that patient if I knew he did something like that to anyone, and that’s one of many reasons I’m not a nurse. Bare minimum is too good for some of these people. Time to watch some Chris Hansen and make myself feel better 😂

That's very illegal. She could end up in jail. Let the Lord do his work. Ik they're mad and angry and hurt. They could have sent him somewhere else

april is STUNNING.

I'd want him to live a long life...Filled with PAIN and suffering... With just enough jail time worthy of such scumbags.. I'm sure rec time would be a sight to see... (I'm a survivor of such actions and would prefer to see them suffering than dead).