Did the police ever check if either witness who saw a car was color blind? That could explain one seeing a red car and the other a green one.

@Hindsight-ep3hf

Жыл бұрын

Red-green color blindness The most common type of color blindness makes it hard to tell the difference between red and green. There are 4 types of red-green color blindness: Deuteranomaly is the most common type of red-green color blindness. It makes green look more red. This type is mild and doesn’t usually get in the way of normal activities. Protanomaly makes red look more green and less bright. This type is mild and usually doesn’t get in the way of normal activities. Protanopia and deuteranopia both make you unable to tell the difference between red and green at all.

@manueladarazsdi9675

Жыл бұрын

I thought the same

@Cat_inatophat

Жыл бұрын

Wow this is an excellent point

@littleredwitch

Жыл бұрын

Good point!

@despicabledavidshort3806

Жыл бұрын

I immediately wondered that as well

I agree the poor little girl was abducted, i am surprised that with a prefect attendance at school they did not try contacting the parents out of concern when she did not show up for school.

@earlfruitbat9032

Жыл бұрын

Incompetence is everywhere

@RepentfollowJesus

Жыл бұрын

@@earlfruitbat9032 and its growing rapidly

@tanianixzsmenchsharefort

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. That I can't phantom to understand their logic in smh. The precious time they wasted not doing anything.

@EasrterRising1fan

Жыл бұрын

There might have been miscommunication on her not being there, and someone regular could have been absent and the job didn't get done.

@TheDramacist

Жыл бұрын

In the early 00s, there wasnt the sort of policies there are now. It's sad schools have to be legally obliged to use common sense and call a parent, but with schools being understaffed and underpaid, it's no real surprise

Man, imagine being her parents... 20 years later and still no idea what happened.

@Leo_Pard_A4

Жыл бұрын

And I'm sure they think of her each and every day of those 20 years.

@asbisi

Жыл бұрын

Yes, a thought for them, definitely. It must be awful never to get closure, I don´t know how you manage that.

The schools here in central Virginia started calling parents if a kid was absent in the late 80s-early 90s. The $20 left behind in her room tells me that she didn't run away. A kid who has planned to run away will take every bit of cash they have with them.

@davidanspach1624

11 ай бұрын

Central Virginia here, too.

@quirkya909

Ай бұрын

Ohio too! I was the same age as Tabitha when she went missing. If I even skipped a class (usually science, Math, and gym….cause I HATED it) they were calling my mom. “Miss Croft, yeah AJae was here for homeroom, and 1-3 periods, she was not here for 4-6 periods” when I got home I would get ripped into. It got to a point my mom would come to the school for 4-6 periods until I quit skipping ….

MTL could have stood for "My True Love," meaning that Tabitha did not yet know who that would be but hoped to meet him some day.

@annickalexander

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing

@im-mi627

Жыл бұрын

That's a very good observation. I remember being around that age and instead of writing my crushes name I would write an abbreviation. This is because like a lot of 13 ys olds or teens, they like to keep personal emotions or feelings hidden. It's likely that she fantasized about having a relationship with someone. Maybe someone who stalked her knew she was a romantic. Preying on her youth. Possible the kid that saw Tabatha could have been color blind or the color of the car could have been changed. The kid could also been guilty maybe he knew someone older that came in that area that she was friends with. he knew but didn't want to "tattle" because it would look bad on him.

@frakismaximus3052

Жыл бұрын

MTL is also an abbreviation for the city of Montreal. I think she ran away there

@nofapSally

Жыл бұрын

Glad I’m not the only one to think that was pretty obvious.

@AmyC37217

4 ай бұрын

@@frakismaximus3052 in 2003 by a Nashville 13 year old? doubtful.

This reminds me a lot of myself. I was a relatively sheltered, straight A student. I was born a year before Tabitha. Right around the age she disappeared, I had gotten very involved with chat rooms. I was lonely and it was easier to make friends. At that time, I had no idea of the dangers and that people might not be who they said they were online. Luckily for me, my sister told my parents who put a stop to it. But I could see Tabitha doing something similar and not being so lucky.

@RepentfollowJesus

Жыл бұрын

I got on chat rooms back then in my early 30s from being lonely. I was having panic attacks and couldn't hardly leave my house. Friends all moved away. I met a barely 17 year old girl who was really immature but we were both Christians and I would joke around silly with her . We joined up.wirh a weekly Bible study of about 5 to 7 in.our group. Since I had made friends with her she would stop acting silly if I asked her. I continued being her friend through her last year of high-school and through college and a few more years. I think she fell away from God now the way she acts. Its sad. We aren't in contact. Met her twice. Used to be a good kid. I thought.

@Blipzzy

Жыл бұрын

@@RepentfollowJesus ….and this comment is supposed to be mature?

@swampdonkey4919

Жыл бұрын

I knew plenty of Pollyanna's who led double lives. It's not unheard of. If she was smoking cigarettes with a 19-year-old, who knows what else she was getting into? Did nobody investigate her online activities, though? I remember being 15 and playing hooky for my first time. I met up with a 19-year-old friend, we got into the car of one of his friends, and he drove us to a head shop. I was nervous the whole time. Just way out of my element. Nothing bad happened, other than getting grounded. Haha...

@GameChanger597

11 ай бұрын

@@RepentfollowJesus It's very inappropriate for a 30 something year old adult to befriend a 17 yr old minor for online chats and for in person meet-ups. The fact that you're having to tell a teen to "stop being silly" is just one of the many reasons why it's so inappropriate.

This case happened about an hour from my home. It had a very profound impact on the community. Her mother has fought to keep the spotlight on Tabitha's case every day since she disappeared hoping and praying for answers. I think it's also worth noting that at the time this happened 13 was fairly immature for kids, esp in that area & we know Tabitha was more immature than most. I think it's very unlikely she ran away. Thank you for covering it.

@CyberChrist

Жыл бұрын

If you think people are getting mature earlier nowadays, you've got another thing coming :P

@ClaireBeatty

Жыл бұрын

It was 2003, not 1903! 🙄

@Catlily5

Жыл бұрын

Kids just seem more mature now.

@charisselinnell-morton4137

Жыл бұрын

She said immature which means “not as mature as they should be “

@idk9992

Жыл бұрын

For some perspective - in 2003, the movie "Thirteen" was made. About two 13-yr old girls who were too mature for their age and getting into things they were too young for... the movie is considered pretty realistic for a lot of people, and although there have always been both extremes-the overly mature and the immature for their age, but let's say that 2003 was definitely not the lala land it appears OP thinks it was.

Red-green is the most common form of colour blindness, occurring in about 10% of men. I wonder if the two witnesses could have been describing the same car, with at least one witness being colour blind.

Predators are known to approach victims telling them something has happened to their parents, etc. and they are there to take them to the hospital, etc. This could easily have happened and would explain why the predator could be from any place far away. Poor little girl :(

@charisselinnell-morton4137

Жыл бұрын

Look at family friends and neighbors.

@RepentfollowJesus

Жыл бұрын

@@charisselinnell-morton4137 absolutely. I was molested by 2 family friends

@rudra62

Жыл бұрын

@@charisselinnell-morton4137 Agreed. "Stranger danger" is far overblown, and most people who harm children are well known to them - family, friends, neighbors, church members, etc.

@randymorales1127

Ай бұрын

How about the school, say the word 'faculty' perpetrator already.., or her friends ?

I attended Bailey Middle with tabitha when she disappeared. I can remember the many rumors spreading around the school about what happened and many students claiming to have seen her after her disappearance. Police were in and out of our school constantly investigating leads! Tabitha was a sweet girl and it’s crazy for to think that 20 years later there’s still no answers!

Dr. Grande, how is speaking to people at the library on a chatroom as well as smoking with a man 8 years her senior considered "no signs of' foul play?

How can people believe a 13-year-old disappears 20 years ago and still think it might be a runaway.

Monsters live among us, disguised as human beings. This is every parent's nightmare.

@rickbrenner6079

Жыл бұрын

Amen.

@enysuntra1347

Жыл бұрын

In Trier, a neighbouring urban area from where I live, a female student had vanished. She was searched for a couple of years, with many protests against violence. Some years ago, she was found; it seems after the party when she vanished, she fell to her death into a ravine and the shrubbery prevented her body from being found. It seems to have been an accident. It is hard to have no clue as to where somebody vanished to; but in some cases, this could have been a terrible accident.

@northerngirl1637

Жыл бұрын

...or often are the parents

@stevemcraemanager7119

Жыл бұрын

​@@rickbrenner6079 Yup and apparently people believe in and pray to God's that watch those monsters act and do nothing.

@birdworldist

Жыл бұрын

Amogus

Very sad and yes, parents worst nightmare. This poor girl was abducted. Straight A student, no problems at home or bullying at school so there was no reason for her to run away. I can’t even imagine how hard this has been on her family 😢

@irinam8709

Жыл бұрын

No way she ran away

@fernfreeman1729

Жыл бұрын

I think she was abducted by someone in a car who made a U-Turn. If someone is going to lie, it's very doubtful he would invent the U-Turn portion. We don't always know what a teenager is up to. She may have been approached by him before and got to trust him. I agree, she was murdered that very same morning.

@fernfreeman1729

Жыл бұрын

​@@irinam8709no chance

@harrydemkee3580

Жыл бұрын

@@fernfreeman1729 yes I would agree, especially the young age of the witness I would not think it would be for attention seeking on the witness part with a child abduction at least I hope not anyway. Very sad the family never had closure

I can't imagine a worse way to lose a loved one than having one vanish like this. If a loved one dies at least we can grieve. Never knowing how they died or even if they died would be unbearable. And then the psychics show up, hoping to profit from our pain. Thank you for the thought-provoking analysis, Dr. Grande.

In the 90’s. The schools didn’t call home is kids were absent. That started later like 2000’s

@dammar117

Жыл бұрын

This happened in 2003.

@rockyevans1584

Жыл бұрын

That's not true, I graduated in 05 and parents would certainly be called if anyone wasn't present with no explanation from the time I was in kindergarten

@PrometheanRising

Жыл бұрын

Perhaps it matters where you live because if I had missed school from the time I started kindergarten around 1978, and when I graduated from high school in 1991 a phone call would have been made to my parents to find out where I was.

I feel Tabitha was a victim of foul play. A girl who sleeps at the foot of her parents bed and is close to her mother isn't going to go missing on her own volition. The guy was no doubt a stalker and possibly a stranger. It's a very sad story! I feel so bad that her parents have had to live with this nightmare for so many years. The not knowing must be torture.

@sr2291

Жыл бұрын

That doesn't sound normal to me.

@barneyronnie

Жыл бұрын

​@@sr2291 Not always...

@sblrttr

Жыл бұрын

What is about her father? He looks kinda sus..

@Ava-yf9yd

Жыл бұрын

@@sblrttr Both parents were cleared right away, as they were both at work.

@joisagirlsname

Жыл бұрын

I agree with the stranger. It was probably opportunistic, possibly coupled with stalking. It wouldn't take very long to establish her movements seeing as she had perfect attendance.

Anyone that’s old enough to drive but targets a 13-yr old does not have the best intentions. Easily a case of foul play

I work overnights at a grocery store and it’s such a treat when you post so I can listen while working

@ilmasaavedra3954

Жыл бұрын

Heath and safety is everybody's responsibility. If we see something wrong or someone in danger, rise the alarm, call the police or social services. May The Lord Almighty protest us. 🙏 ❤

I feel so sad for the parents, that’s truly the worst nightmare. Thank you for the review, Dr. Grande.❤

Not at high risk? 20 minutes walking to the bus alone everyday is A LOT. Plus, apparently there was a significant possibility of no one else being there and her having to go to a different bus stop, walking even further. Plus, who knows how long they were standing waiting for the bus. I'd say she was very high risk considering she was all alone and both her parents were gone. Anyone could watch and know that was the case.

I'm not dismissing the kid who claimed to see the red car.

When I was 13 I had no life outside my parents

@brightballoon

27 күн бұрын

Do you mean it's normal that she was 'too attached to her mother'? I agree, could be totally normal, and some ppl start branching out more emotionally at that age. It varies. I only reply bc I find it strange that ppl say, 'Oh, at that age, I was still playing w barbie dolls,' idealizing past childhoods as opposed to now. Human nature doesn't change much over the years, and kids are still kids. There are simply more ways to meet others w/out leaving home now, bc of computers.

The saddest stories are the ones where a child disappears. My heart goes out to the family.

I think MTL stands for My True Love.

Poor wee girl...I hope one day Tabithas family will get some answers. Great content as always Dr Grande ! 💖🐕

@alanna4858

Жыл бұрын

She could easily have been me! We sound so similar. I’m so sad for her. So so sad.

@paulbowman2340

Жыл бұрын

Poor wee girl, Scottish?

I live in East Nashville and this is great to hear you cover this tragic story.

Very bizarre case. Parents truly only know so much about what is going on with kids.

@rolfanderson3925

Жыл бұрын

Cases like this show how much potential danger children are in when allowed internet access.

@carewser

Жыл бұрын

except there's no evidence that she met her abductor online

@reidye

Жыл бұрын

@@rolfanderson3925 I’m not sure how you can draw that conclusion when there isn’t any evidence that confirms internet played any role.

@Catlily5

Жыл бұрын

​@@reidye She supposedly was on internet chat rooms at the library.

@rolfanderson3925

Жыл бұрын

@@reidye Besides that she was chatting with randos online at the library. I’m not saying that directly led to hear disappearance, just that it’s terrifying that your child could be interacting with potential predators without your knowledge.

The fact that Tabitha disappeared while on her way TO SCHOOL and the fact that no one FROM SCHOOL attempted to notify her parent(s) as was protocol is a HUGE red flag. A teacher or school employee would know of Tabitha, maybe even have been a trusted acquaintance of Tabitha that she knew at school AND be able to know/find out where Tabitha lived as well as where she would catch the school bus in the morning. 🤔Am I wrong?

@440SPN

Жыл бұрын

@PoM Mom, that is a very good point, although I think the non-reporting was negligence and not connected to the crime. But it could have been connected to some employee, a person who was covertly stalking her. Very sad.

@lkgreenwell

Жыл бұрын

Would it have been normal for the school to attempt to contact the home of a non-attender?

@YTStoleMyUsername

Жыл бұрын

Each state is different with their attendance regulations, and this was also way back in 2003. Most of what I'm seeing when I search online states to the effect of "Parent or guardian shall be notified each time a student has five (5) days (aggregate) of unexcused absences and that attendance at school is required. Additional notices shall be sent after each successive accumulation of five (5) unexcused absences" Obviously there may be judgement calls when a teacher or administrator may contact a parent on one missed day, or a specific school may have their own policy. But we don't have an interview with the school officials from back then to hear their side of the story. I don't think it was their fault. She could've gone missing walking home from the bus stop just as easily, and that wouldn't be on them either.

@jamesbowman6925

Жыл бұрын

I worked in public schools beginning in 2010, and even then it was not protocol to notify the parents of an absence. It is now; the schools send out robo-calls when a student hasn't arrived within about an hour of the start of the school day (unless the absence has already been excused). I think the Kyron Holman abduction in 2010 got the ball rolling on notifying parents, but it took a few years for districts to adopt policies on that issue.

@PoM-MoM

Жыл бұрын

@@lkgreenwell A non-attender? If a child isn't enrolled then a school doesn't know they exist unless someone outside of the family or a physician alerts the school district. If you meant someone who is habitual ditcher or calls out sick all the time.... I believe it is now LAW that a school call a guardian/parent when a child is missing, didn't show up for school. In THIS video the child allegedly had a perfect attendance record. Regardless, a call should be done.

I wonder if one of the witnesses was color blind. The 11 year old boy saw a red car, and the neighbor saw a green car. Just a thought.

@janyth1329

Жыл бұрын

I had the same thought while I was listening tonight...

@les_chats

Жыл бұрын

Exactly what I thought. My father couldn't, and my son can't, tell the difference between red and green.

@passwordsuggestion5336

Жыл бұрын

I thought the same. My son is color blind and he mixes up green and red often.

@GGiblet

Жыл бұрын

We all have the same thought

@messrsandersonco5985

Жыл бұрын

Not necessarily. Eye witness reports are chronically unreliable. It's only when reports are corroborated that they gain credulity.

This is my mother's worst nightmare. I think she knew the young man. He said he would give her a ride to school. All young people like to have an adult drop them at school rather than riding the bus. As soon as she was in the car she was zipped away for abuse and murder. Due to her young age, statutory rape applied and she had to be killed to cover up the abuse. There is no argument of consent with such a young person.

@eadweard.

Жыл бұрын

The statutory part is incoherent.

always a hot topic here in Nashville on the anniversary of her disappearance. I remember it specifically because it happened right after I moved to the city.

@Reallythough

Жыл бұрын

Hmm

I live in the neighborhood this happened in and the house still has her missing persons poster on it 😢

I always just drove my kids to school since my work schedule was malleable. When I was a kid we walked.

@Wendy-dk1wu

2 ай бұрын

My neighbor would make her son walk until he almost was ran over. Never walked again. Too dangerous. People get killed everyday because they walked

This is so very sad. I hate these kinds of cases but you Dr.Grande tell it with a lot of dignity to the children. Txxd

I think the first boy was absolutely correct. The police dogs confirm that she entered a car at the point he indicated. He would have been able to see the driver in profile when he made a U turn, hence the detail of a baseball cap and probably enough contrast in the morning sun to note the race of the driver. The boy was probably looking up the street watching for the bus and saw Tabitha walking towards him. The others simply weren't looking that way. We are so spoiled by how well cameraed our streets are now it is hard to imagine a time when these things happened without many, if only electronic witnesses.

Your videos are like reading a well written true crime book. I don't have time to read on my own now that I am getting my MBA, so your videos are a welcome replacement! Thank you!

@RepentfollowJesus

Жыл бұрын

Congrats!

@tb-dv1zc

Жыл бұрын

If you have time to listen to this, you have time to read

@gustavoherrera6754

Жыл бұрын

@@tb-dv1zc ok

@Photosbystacyb

Жыл бұрын

Good luck and all the best! ❤

@laura121684

Жыл бұрын

@@tb-dv1zc They didn't ask you for your opinion.

This case is extremely sad. I was about the same age as Tabitha in '03 and at that age you are so vulnerable, naive and innocent. I can't believe that the school was so irresponsible and negligent to not call the parents about her not being at school. Such a horrible situation and outcome for this poor angel🤍🕊

It is always so sad when people go missing. Sometimes we forget how vulnerable our teenagers are. I worry about my 14 year old granddaughter, at least she is a big girl,5 foot 8 1/2 inches and thick, so maybe that gives her an advantage. But mostly we adults have to explain how dangerous the world can be.

@GoGreen1977

Жыл бұрын

I'm a 67 5'8" woman and I found being tall and strong (I still work out with weights and have since my 20s) has been very much a benefit. Regardless, I've always been careful and aware of my surroundings. Big plus, I was a wise and wary teenager.

@RepentfollowJesus

Жыл бұрын

I remember thinking as a teenager " oh things like that only happen to other people " . I was naive. So were my two gal pals. We got into some extremely bad scrapes. Out running around the city when we should have been home at night. One night I almost got killed just out Christmas shopping alone and about to go home. I was pretty sure I was going to be murdered after all the rest he put me through. Get your girls a book called The Gift of Fear. If I had had it back then, I would have been safer. But then there were times I had started to learn people and avoid some situations. If not for the grace of God ,I would not have made it past 16.

@RepentfollowJesus

Жыл бұрын

​@@GoGreen1977i wish I had continued on from childhood riding my bike and exercising. Im younger that you and no way could I come close to keeping up with you. Back issues keep me pretty sedentary.

@evep6886

Жыл бұрын

Get her a dog. When people walk with dogs the chance of being atacked reduces a lot. The dog might not have enought strenght to take down a human but evil doers are afraid of the little good bois of making too much noise because they don't understand the concept of "shut up" or being paralyced by fear when their beloved human is in danger

@barneyronnie

Жыл бұрын

@@RepentfollowJesus Do you have weigh issues?

As usual compelling and well spoken. It is so nice to hear someone use impeccable language. Thank you!

@January.

Жыл бұрын

Very few people in this country under 60 are capable of speaking correct English nowadays

@kaudsiz

Жыл бұрын

@@January. Even the US President can’t speak proper English but then again, he’s demented

@January.

Жыл бұрын

@@kaudsiz You're a vile human being. Your mother must be embarrassed that she spewed such horrible offspring.

Life is too scary for young children these days…. It’s almost a nightmare

@bubbabroad9051

Жыл бұрын

I am sorry to say but it was like that in the olden days too

@thedacardea416

Жыл бұрын

This is the safest era for children in all of human history. Look it up yourself if you don't believe me.

@January.

Жыл бұрын

Not only these days; for SEVERAL DECADES.

@breathnstop

Жыл бұрын

This was 20 years ago. Adam Walsh was murdered 40 years ago. So I don't know what you mean. Some imaginary safe Olden days is a fantasy.

@Scipio_Americanus

5 ай бұрын

Zelda 5150 is not very bright.

Hi nighttime watchers!!

@MakerInMotion

Жыл бұрын

Third shift with a light workload. I love my job.

@hshsgdggge

Жыл бұрын

Hey gworl 💅🏻✨

@analogalien651

Жыл бұрын

🎉

@JohnWayne-86ed

Жыл бұрын

Insomniacs unite and take over✊😴...

@feelthejoy

Жыл бұрын

Took a nap and now I can’t sleep - thank god for KZread!

You certainly did your homework, Dr. Grande. Another of east Nashville's nicknames was "no man's land". Thank you for another excellent video!

All that time lost because the school didn't call??!! My God!

Hi Dr. Grande. I think a video or a short on the prevalence of mental health issues or personality disorders between different countries would be very interesting. Thanks for all you do!

@tessiepinkman

Жыл бұрын

I second that! I'm Swedish, but I live in Norway, and this sounds like something that could be very enlightening for many people (myself included). I've wondered for a long time how a graph of mental health problems country by country would look, and most importantly; Why? Great suggestion!

I now look forward to watching these every night! Thank you for your hard work, Dr. Grande. ☺️

🥀🙏🕊️🥀🙏🕊️🥀🙏🕊️ Prayers for Tabitha, and her Family.💔🙏💔🙏💔🙏 And for Answers, and Justice.🙏🙏🙏🙏

It was East Nasty (for East Nashville) or Inglehood (for Inglewood, the specific neighborhood) in those days, but nowadays you’ll find houses on Lillian Street selling for high-six to low-seven figures.

@MichelleSmith-cf6ys

Жыл бұрын

Seems to be what is happening to every city in TN…. Gentrification

@GeorgiaJakes7

Жыл бұрын

It wasn’t considered a safe part of town back then. Housing market is crazy here in Nashville like it is in a lot of places.

@MakeItSo1111

Жыл бұрын

“Over the river, into the hood” (East Nashville bumper sticker)

@GeorgiaJakes7

Жыл бұрын

@@MakeItSo1111 haha. I like that. Perfect - unfortunately for that area. I see the houses going for $500k plus now to out of towners and I’m like not me in that part of town lol.

Scary stuff reminds me of the black phone movie the dudes steals kids from his black van disguised as a magician but gets their attention by faking clumsily dropping his equipment and asking them for help

The police refused to look for Tabitha for nearly a year until her case and the police inaction were featured on America's Most Wanted. I've lived in that neighborhood since 1992 and I remember her parents trying to get attention to the case because the police said she ran away and would not investigate. East Nashville was a poor area back then and the police, schools and the rest of Davidson county did not care at all about the residents. As far as her smoking with the 19 year old, him saying it doesn't make it so

@eadweard.

Жыл бұрын

I think we all know they'd have looked sooner had Tabitha been white.

@brendamoon2660

Жыл бұрын

​@@eadweard.she was white but she was working class. The color police care about is green. Her family didn't have any.

@eadweard.

Жыл бұрын

@@brendamoon2660 The police aren't paid directly by the family.

@brendamoon2660

Жыл бұрын

@@eadweard. of course not. But when people have money and power the police try to keep them happy. People without money, which means without power, can't cause the police any problem so they get ignored or even bullied.

Incredibly strange that a 13 year old would sleep at foot of parents' bed. Would definitely want to know when this started. It's not for no reason.

@rockyevans1584

Жыл бұрын

Many kids are less mature and independent than others.

@llIlIlllII

Жыл бұрын

@@rockyevans1584 How does that apply here? Are you literally saying you think some teens are so immature and dependent that they have to be treated like an infant, incapable of sleeping in a different room o.O Please explain

@rockyevans1584

Жыл бұрын

@@llIlIlllII it applies here because she was a teen who was described as immature for her age. I'm not saying anything other than every child matures at a different rate. Her parents put her to bed in her room and she would routinely sneak into theirs to sleep. Sounds like they weren't treating her like an infant, she was having trouble for whatever reason staying in her own room. I feel like I'm treating you like an infant by having to clarify tbh, what's unclear here? This person said it's strange, but while uncommon it's not unheard of for a 13 yo girl to have trouble sleeping in her own bed. We all can speculate as to why, but I have a younger cousin who's 13 and she's on the immature side for her age, not that she does this but everyone's different

@LDiamondz

Жыл бұрын

@@rockyevans1584 Agreed, it's definitely not unheard of for an immature child to do this. She would have stayed in her own room, when she felt safe.

@DarkRyeOrganic_Au

Жыл бұрын

I wonder if she felt safer there than in her own room, alone at night, because she knew the thing she feared, wouldn't happen right in front of her mother...

Kids can be distracted by goofing off together or whatever, so I wouldn't find it impossible that only one kid saw things. Some of his account seemed to be corroberated by the dogs. (I used to be sceptical of kid's reports, but I remember the case where a 13(?)-year old kid was the only one who described a motor-cycle in the area which actually led to the finding and the arrest of the killer.) If the perpetrator was someone unknown to her (which isn't as unlikely as people would prefer to think imo), he could have had a gun or some BS ruse. If she knew him, she probably would have trusted him. Such a sad case 😢🙁

I don't know. The ex-live-in sounds pretty right to me. He fits too well. And she would have felt comfortable enough to get into his car too.

@Dulcimertunes

Жыл бұрын

That had bad idea written all over it

Or he (the boy) liked her and was watching for her to walk down the hill and then he saw the car pull up and she got in. Younger children than he notice what they saw. I think kids are good witnesses because they don’t have much of a filter.

Times have either changed and it has become more dangerous for children or these types of crimes weren't reported many years ago. It is so scary parents to let their kids walk to the bus stop without a group of kids or supervision. Even if this poor girl met someone she was still a child and didn't see the potential danger. Very sad.

@plicketyplunk

Жыл бұрын

These stories were never covered when I was growing up.

@lisamac8503

Жыл бұрын

I agree My 14 year old wanted to walk back from the bus stop (saying she was old enough and I was over protective ) I always picked her up and was there 20 minutes before the bus arrived There were no other kids along this road that were let off the bus - I agreed to allow her to walk back (about 2 plus blocks) In that that one time a man followed her in a car He wanted her to get in the car She was terrified and began running across the fields (we live in an area with few houses) and ran into a neighbors yard This was was the very first time she walked alone Needless to say I never allowed her to walk alone again and she never asked again Kids are not safe Its a sad fact but its reality I m so sorry for her parents Yes it a worse parents nightmare

@jamesbowman6925

Жыл бұрын

It's that "these types of crimes weren't reported many years ago." They might have gotten local coverage, but now people hear about everything because of social media. Stranger abductions have always been rare, but I have read articles stating that stranger abductions per capita have become even more rare than in previous eras.

I was a teacher in a Catalan high school (students from 12 to 17 years old). Our protocol was to send text to parents if the student was not in school at the first hour of class. This was made automatically. Pobre niña! In your country a lot of children disappear. It's awful.

Good morning, Dr. Grande! Tabitha was abducted and the school was remiss in not notifying her parents when she didn't show up at school. Given her history, it is doubtful that she ran away. As for the witnesses, they clearly didn't know what they were talking about and they were not quickly forthcoming with their "information," so their memories were not as good as they might have been had they come forward earlier. And I concur with you, that it was probably somebody she knew and was aware of her schedule. Thanks for sharing.

Hello from New Zealand!

All kids have secret lives. They are trying on traits and personalities, they are filled with millions of possibilities and no one should ever take that from them. Tragic.

So sad and mysterious. I do agree with your analysis Dr. Grande! Thank you for covering the case.

I hope someday there is closure to this case and she can rest in peace.

As an aside, MTL likely stands for 'my true love.' Great video as always Dr Grande!

I know the Tudor and Pulley families personally, and all are absolutely beautiful people. This little girl was a sweetheart, and was very loved and protected. East Nashville is completely different now, but in those days it was rough, although typically tight knit. In my view, she was abducted. It's that simple. No one in the family, school community, or certainly Tabitha herself did anything to cause this. Our only hope is that one day there's closure of some type. Her parents are tough as nails, and the family has endured other tragedy, but they remain hopeful and positive people. God bless all of them.

Odd school didn't alert the parents & sleeping at foot of parents bed. Agree foul play at hand, by someone who knew her. Great analysis again. Thanks Dr G 😊💛🧡

I’m surprised I’ve never heard of this case. I’m 2 years younger than Tabitha, and I grew up in Nashville at the time

Despite the dogs losing her sent, it might be that it wasn't a car, but perhaps a residence. Someone living on her route to the bus stop would have been familiar with seeing her. The abductor might have chatted with her and she became familiar with him enough to entice her into the residence. Anyway, what a tragedy!

Police should consider if the two individuals who saw the red/green car are colorblind.

When I was a kid I remember girls would write their initials + SOS where SOS = "Some one special". I wonder if the modern equivalent is MTL = "My true love". It doesn't mean anything one way or the other except maybe she thought she had a true love. If I were a cold case detective, I'd try to find and interview her girlfriends/classmates at the time. She might have confided something that didn't seem important to them at the time. I'd also look at parents of her classmates. She might not consider them a stranger and feel more comfortable getting into their car.

@sugarshannie623

8 ай бұрын

💯💯💯

Unbelievable that, in the 2000's, the school didn't make any phone calls at all when a good student inexplicably doesn't show up to school with no call from the parents to notify of an absence.

I was attending school in East Nashville at the time. This case was huge in that whole city. You'd hear people talking about this case for a couple years. Given all the attention locally, it's insane how little they ever found to go on. We were the same age. Her case still hits close to home for me.

1)This is sad and disturbing. I bet that neighborhood homes and nearby businesses didnt have cameras back in 2003. 2) If the police had kept the library computer, I bet newer forensic advancements could've found written over communication and search history. 3) Maybe the 11yo witness saw the red car and driver up close before this date and fused these details together. At his age and immature mind he couldn't clearly distinguish bits of info with different timelines and past observations. His mind fused different bits together. We've known for decades that adult eyewitness accounts are terribly unreliable.

I hope Tabitha is at peace. Bless you🙏❤️

Like a fine watch Dr G is right on time

Dr.Grande I love all your videos!! Especially late at night!

I'd be curious to hear what the 11 year old boy says now after all these years.

@barneyronnie

Жыл бұрын

A creepy brotha in a red car abducted her ...

@ambervanderhooft

Жыл бұрын

The problem is that memories are extremely malleable, especially after such a long time. The brain is made for survival, not for accuracy/remembering things.

The amount of these stories that include, "The school didn't inform the parents about the unexcused absence", is pretty shocking.

Good evening Dr. Grande & audiences! ❤ Proud Patreon Supporter Here! ❤ Tysvm for your exceptional videos as always Dr. Grande! 👏 Bravo! 👏 Have a blessed evening everyone! ❤

@Koozomec

Жыл бұрын

I wish you a wonderfull day too. U R the best !

@Cyber_Kati_6744

Жыл бұрын

@@Koozomec ❤Ty kindly! You are as well!! ❤❤❤❤

@Cyber_Kati_6744

Жыл бұрын

@@erdelegy ❤

Hey Dr. Grande💜 This case has always always made me so sad. I wish so badly this one could be solved. I can't wait to hear your opinion on this one

So sad. And she has a lovely name.

Great content Dr. Grande. I like these throwbacks to old crime cases.

There is that case where 3 women were held prisoner in a neighborhood for give or take 15 years. At one point the police missed the girls by 1 house. They looked into a house next door and missed the house where all the girls were being held prisoner. With that said Tabatha could be in any house in the neighborhood and no one would know. Also she might have been killed but if they can’t find the body they won’t ever know for sure.

Poor girl😔😔😔 Btw I’ve never heard of anyone sleeping at the foot of their parents bed..So weird

@LDiamondz

Жыл бұрын

It's not that uncommon. They grow out of it.

@Yuyu99000

Жыл бұрын

@@LDiamondz yeah she kept doing it tho and she was 13/14?!

@Leah_F.

Ай бұрын

Someone could’ve been going up to her window at night, & maybe she was afraid to tell anyone.

@tedenray20

Ай бұрын

​@@Leah_F.Completely agree!!

MTL could be My True Love. I feel that she was abducted or went voluntary , picked up by someone she knew or had conversed with online. I wouldn't write off the first witness's testimony of the Red Car as fantasy as he said the car went up the hill and there is a hill there and the scent was lost at that location. Assuming the boy was not Red / Green color blind , it may have been a green car , it is possible if the boy was standing at the junction of both streets , he could be the only one thatsaw the car ,as opposed to at the specific bus stop and kids these days are too busy talking to notice much if anything and a girl voluntarliy getting into a car without screaming , even if someone saw it happen would not arouse any suspicion.

I was living in Nashville at that time and casually dating a man that lived on Boscobel when this happened. He was a new doctor doing his residency at Vanderbilt so he didn’t have a lot of time to get involved with searching. I was also very close to metro police officers who leaked information about the older brothers shady dealings. They also stated that Tabitha wasn’t as innocent as it would seem. She was allegedly getting involved with the older brother’s ‘clients’. As a 13 yr old, I always saw her as a victim. Period. But I definitely sensed that many officers weren’t as committed to finding her as I thought they should.

We appreciate Dr Grande's case analyses. They're always concise yet packed with all the information we need to know.

The school not calling would definitely get Columbo's attention. Monk too.

@Scipio_Americanus

4 ай бұрын

🙄 That wasn't the practice back then.

@FrankBenlin

4 ай бұрын

@@Scipio_Americanus In 2003? Sure it was. He even talked about it at 3:44.

Thank you , I always enjoy watching your videos. You rock

It’s always interesting when people consider runaways to be in less danger or somehow less worthy of attention when they are missing like, “oh she’s definitely just a runaway, I hope they charge her with something and make her pay back the money wasted searching for her...” or “no, this poor little girl was definitely was kidnapped! I can’t believe they aren’t doing more!”

Sounds like it had to be someone she knew or family. People would have heard screaming if she felt frightened by a stranger

Hello Dr Grande. Nice to see you.. excellent video. I agree with you. Thank you ❤️.

As far as the little note with her initials , it could have just been a celebrity. Plenty of my 13 year old classmates had their initials N JTT scrawled on their notebooks. It sounds like a crime of opportunity to me unfortunately 😢

@MooseGuy1

Жыл бұрын

I have the other issue. The celebrities write my initials on their notebooks.

@moonlighter9850

Жыл бұрын

@@MooseGuy1 😂

@ImNotCallingYouALiar

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. I still have a diary and notebooks of when I was cringey teen and I have initials scribbled all over them. The initials were of celebrities and pop stars I daydreamed I would end up with. The only other possibility is that the initials belonged to someone she met in a chat room

@littleredwitch

Жыл бұрын

@@MooseGuy1 😂😂😂 U lucky thing!

Good evening Dr Grande, what a very sad case. As always I learn something new from your videos.

I wouldn’t rule out running away with a stranger she met in those chat rooms 😔

Another great video, cheers Dr. Grande!

In 2003 chat rooms were very popular. Maybe she mentioned where she lived and a predator snatched her. It’s really sad because there is no closure. It’s odd because there’s so little evidence. I hope they find out what happened to her.

I think there is a possibility that Tabitha may have known the predator, or she was told by the predator that her mother or father was in an accident/hospital to have her enter the vehicle. I tend to wonder if the predator is familiar to the family as well. Sad to know that this case hasn't been solved yet. Monsters have no shame! Thank you for your analysis Dr. Grande.

I don't believe this girl ran away. The fact that she was last seen between the two bus stops tells me she was obeying her mum's instructions to move to the next stop if there were no kids at the first one. This also tells me that she would never get into a car with a stranger, because this was also an instruction from her mum. I assume the police checked the initials of the sisters ex? Obviously if they match, then the alibi could be false. I wonder could MTL stand for My True Love or something, in the same way BFF stands for Best Friends Forever? No girl who's running away from home leaves her house without her clothes and the 20 dollars she had. Don't forget, she was alone after the parents left, so no one to ask her why she's taking a bag etc. This theory definitely doesn't hold water. Also, if she's running away with a guy with a car, he'd call to her house after the parents had left to collect her, or meet her very near to her house. One other thought, could the piece of paper be a password for a chatroom that someone has set up for private messages? She logged into whatever chat room it was and then used the code to access it. Just a theory. I think her friend probably knows more than she's saying because I know I told my best friend everything at that age. The friend is probably afraid she'll get in trouble for not telling because so much time has passed. The parents should approach the friend in a friendly way and ask again. My last theory is, could the MTL stand for Mr somebody or other? Did she have any male teachers? Especially the one who gave her the good report? Just a thought. Thanks for a great video. Never heard of this poor girl. I pray she is found someday. 🙏🙏

Why would she sleep at the foot of her mother's bed? Suspicious, was something happening to her at home at night when she was in her room? Father, mother, and older siblings need to be investigated thoroughly.This case needs to be solved, like, now.

@joywebster2678

Жыл бұрын

Or anxious attachment to a working mother from early on. Not necessarily related to "abuse". Attachment issues starting from birth with mother and infant continue to manifest without being addressed.

@sunrisesunset1734

Жыл бұрын

@@joywebster2678 Looking for a good detective here, not someone legally blind, lol.

@Scipio_Americanus

5 ай бұрын

Sunrise clearly has sexually deviant fantasies

Can you do a video on Michael Dunahee. Fascinating story.

@marycrawford9428

Жыл бұрын

I agree. I worked with his uncle a few years back, the family still hopes he will show up someday.

Another great video. Thank you Dr. Grande!