Did HUNTERS Just Become The BEST Class? BIG Bronze Farming Buffs & New Solo Endgame Content
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There were a lot of updates this week, including a huge class rework for the Hunters that leaves them in a very good spot, there are some new buffs for bronze farming and thread farming in WoW remix, and we have our first look at the new end game version of delves, as well as our first peek into the new raid.
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00:00 - Hunter Rework is Huge, Big Bronze Farming Buffs
00:31 - BIG Buff for Bronze Farming
02:30 - The HUGE Hunter Rework
08:40 - New solo player end game revealed
13:32 - First look at the new raid
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@tenerifecats6652
22 күн бұрын
I'm DONE with the Remix collecting! LOL BUT I have a few more alts that are still in various stages of leveling (heritage armor toons that I wanted to level to 50 real quick before the event is over.) But once they are 50...probably mid-next-week...I'm done!
Great stuff with the hunters. Maybe someone at Blizzard finally understands its not fun to have separate specs for AoE and single target, but instead the choices should be about playstyle.
@ourcommonancestry6025
22 күн бұрын
They do not... There remains no burst potential and no stun mitgation among all three classes, they continue to die by gap closing classes, or they spend most of their dps healing and resurrecting dead pets that still do little to no damage outside a 12 seconds window every 5 minutes. Additionally, there are no effects that bring anything to a team using hunters, in any game mode, that is uniquely advantageous to a mythic team, arena team, or raid team. They can hide and get one ungeared single target down then they must run, turtle, and feign their inevitable death... I beta tested all 3 specs and they are truly up there with enhancement shaman and other failed class reworks.. Sorry but they are never above C tier on any list.
@LiquidShivaz
22 күн бұрын
@@ourcommonancestry6025ohhww boohoo, think I have to cry now. Most people play for fun honey, even raids. The elitist part is not for everybody.
@terryfunk1728
22 күн бұрын
@@ourcommonancestry6025 bro pvp is dead, ofc blizz odesnt care about that
@ourcommonancestry6025
22 күн бұрын
@@LiquidShivaz most people also vote for Biden... how's that working out?
@LiquidShivaz
22 күн бұрын
@ourcommonancestry6025 I don't know man, you tell me, I don't live in the land of the free
As a hunter main for almost 20 years, it's GREAT seeing us get some love!
@Balancedruidlife1
7 күн бұрын
eeeeh
Bronze buff actually made me jump back onto my tumerunner main to try and get gear upgrades for hc raids. Previously it felt like a waste of time due to progression speed.
I sure hope so. Hunters, Rangers and Archers are one of the most icon and fun RPG / Fantasy classes. I am looking forward to seeing if Blizz responds to our feedback.
@ezaf5989
22 күн бұрын
Cringe furry
Delves do sound nice. Solo options are always desirable
@deepfuries5094
22 күн бұрын
Agree 👍🏻
I am more than fine with the Delves providing up to and including Heroic Raid gear ilvl. EDIT: as is stated they are going to.
Thanks for the video
Was going to start on my paladin or DK first this xpac but thinking i might get back on my old hunter
I have been playing more remix due to the changes. Enjoying the level of progression now. Excited to try these hunter changes.
I love the idea of Delves. Seems like a cool thing to do with the friends I have that are more casual players.
I have an affinity for symmetry. The class trees look better to me just from their symmetry.
Guess I'm going to have to come back from break and start the remix grind.
@-.-Monster
23 күн бұрын
it wont take you long. Prolly a week or 2 to get everything depending on your play time available
Hindsight? You mean foresight!
@sanctobellum290
22 күн бұрын
I came here to say this.
@byorce
22 күн бұрын
Foresight? You mean foreskin!
I have been doing the remix thing apart from when I got sick, so the bronze buff means I have started leveling gear on one character while focusing on gear and mount farming on the others. Suppose I should also look at the toys but eh.
Hey folks, thx for Waschung!
So, with the knowledge that there is a grind heavy heirloom ring coming in the prepatch. What's even the point anymore besides for collection? They changed the heirloom effect and made them basically worthless by removing what made then so sought after. The XP boost.
@peterfalklhoste9809
22 күн бұрын
No real point if you aren't into minmaxing. It's still the best ring you can use while leveling but tbh leveling is so easy right now with Remix. I won't buy The War Within till it's about to be out and just doing some Remix with my Classic Sub. Prepatch doesn't sound nice for me
589 will be the highest delve item Level. Even 13. Everything past 7 is the same (589).
@ZahryD
23 күн бұрын
Shit I expected that they will be on pair with high end mythics and raids ...
@Sheriff_K
22 күн бұрын
What’s that relate to M+-wise, +10?
@lexiconprime7211
22 күн бұрын
@@Sheriff_K Pretty sure it's around +5 or so.
As I’m going to be a brand new mother just before WW comes out, I’m pleased for delves. I can’t commit to m+ if I have to leave in the middle for a crying baby. No tanking for me for a good long while.
@alexb9566
20 күн бұрын
Congrats! Enjoy your baby. :)
I have only been playing remix just get my alts leveled up fast. Now that I have every class at max level I am looking forward towards War Within.
If delve rewards cap @ tier 8 does that mean i’ll need to run mythic + or raids to be strong enough for tier 9-13 delves?
Maybe I’ll use my MM hunter again. Good changes.
Delves are really interesting, I think they are going to be really popular for a lot of people, those that obviously prefer to solo-only. I think I'll enjoy them but I do prefer group play (dungeons > raid > solo in that order). I think delves should not be the go-to end-game gear but it would be a nice feature if they had 1 BiS item per each class or something to that effect, where doing it does give you a minor end-game reward.
I'm happy that they are adding solo option to gear up the character, but I hope it won't be mandatory to do it every day/week.
The guilt I feel as MM when I can't use lust without summoning and dismissing my pet...
@snivels
23 күн бұрын
The most idiotic thing ever. And what is more egregious is that they actually GIVE you the command pet ability when you dismiss the pet, but it's the tenacity pet one, Fortitude of the Bear. It's just ridiculous.
@XAn0nymousX0
22 күн бұрын
So you wanted to play a ranged dps that doesn't have a pet and offers no group utility? Why didn't you just roll to shadow priest with the rest of the fotm players? Lol.
@snivels
22 күн бұрын
@@XAn0nymousX0 that's not really an argument, hunter already offers two mandatory pet-only specs. You can already play MM with a pet if you choose to. But there is a literal talent on ONE of the specs that allows you not to, having you choose that talent, which is the most powerful for the spec, and then forcing you to summon and dismiss a pet immediately for lust just feels terrible.
@XAn0nymousX0
22 күн бұрын
@snivels I get it dude. I was memeing a bit there.
@snivels
22 күн бұрын
@@XAn0nymousX0 haha I should have seen that, I feel dumb
What pet do you like for Marksmanship in Pandaria Remix?
Survival is looking spicy with the packleader hero talents and the ability to turn your bombs into shrapnel bombs AND spread the bleed effect to other targets by using mongoose bite. I love survival but S4's tier set bonus really set us back a bit since its tailored to ST and not AOE where Survival shines.
@1:20 Foresight, not hindsight
@wokeuptomorrow4533
22 күн бұрын
Nah, you just misunderstood
Doing the speed level route where you don't pick up CP until level 55 gets you over 100k bronze. Can do it in 2-3 hours. Fastest way to get Xmogs is just speed level alts.
Please review on warlock, i still cant decide between lock n hunter for war within
@johernandez266
22 күн бұрын
Warlock always comes first. Destro and Demo are mental.
I really hated the Hunter gear from the models they showed us but.... seeing it on my Night Elf has changed my mind - it doesn't look too bad. Still Love the Evoker gear and wish Hunters had it. Love to know when Pre-patch is out - that gear looks awesome.
the new buffs for MoP remix are great. I still feel the main issue is alts though. Why doesn't the cloak share when you reach max level? makes no sense. If they don't want people farming dailies among multiple chars at least let me choose which char to sync the cloak to, and then make them separate. The other thing is gear upgrades on alts. Just make them cheaper, basically the cost reduction for ilvl but accountwide and not per character. That way all issues would be fixed for me. If they don't feel like syncing cloaks at least give a buff to threads gained until you catch up to your mains cloak. At least this is a good step in the right direction
The Shaohao rep boost is glorious… I just could not bring myself to do it over the last 10 years, and this buff allowed me to do it twice in a day.
@peterfalklhoste9809
22 күн бұрын
What is the rep for? Didn't do that at all
@Eyrrll
22 күн бұрын
@@peterfalklhoste9809 Well, it has what was a pretty rare mount available at exalted, but I think you can buy it now from the Remix vendor. Otherwise, it’s just an achievement and a Bronze Cache. The big thing is, it was a pretty harsh grind to exalted, with limited mobs giving low rep gains. A lot of people such as myself, who don’t typically mind rep grinds, still never got around to finishing it after all these years. Currently in Remix, you can hit the island for the first time on a character, do a few intro quests and be exalted in 2 or 3 hours.
@peterfalklhoste9809
22 күн бұрын
@@Eyrrll thanks for the explanation sir
I haven't stopped playing panda remix.. Love the game mode.
Anybody think mm should get power shot back/snipe shot and have it be a channeling ability like evolved flame breath? Always feel like mm should be that hard hitting sniper spec.
Bronze Buff is pretty nice since i just started with playing wow so gonny try to lvl up all Classes there. Is it worth it to make a Remix char as my main char for retail later on or would it be better to make my main char retail from the beginning ?
im ok with delves as a general concept (world content that you can just jump in and do with or without a group). im less a fan of it being instanced content as i'll end up doing it solo all the time with how i play (i dont have a guild and my friends all left). it'd be nice to see/work with random people but not have to outright group with them kinda like eso's delves.. though theres only so much that you could do with a system like that and it'd likely be less challenging. so while i want it to be more open to randos working together, its probably better that its not. rofl
Small note, "increased by 200%" equates to triple, not double.
@peterfalklhoste9809
22 күн бұрын
The caches increased by 100% which is double in case someone is wondering. The cloak stuff tripled (increased 200%) as the comment points out
@Darzaire
20 күн бұрын
@@peterfalklhoste9809 Thank you for clarifying!
hey folks, i cant find any good 'whats the best type of healer to play' vids. i want to roll a healer and i like instant casts and aoe's, not much of a fan of hot's. what should i roll?
Changes to threads from spools has been insane actually! Doing all my daily activity quests, which includes one each normal and heroic scenarios and dungeon, plus run every wing of raid finder, I am easily gaining 11k threads per day
Leveling all allied races for heritage armor... And get all toys and collectibles
xD I like the Oondasta clip... Guildies casually getting mythic Tyndral down and its not even mentioned rofl
honest question which is better 5% dps or 5% attack speed cuz thats the dif of having a pet or not for marksmen
@johernandez266
22 күн бұрын
Dps for me is better more of a flat increase for passive dot or pet damage. Attack power don't mean diddly is you can't attack. Just my thoughts.
I like the bronze increase. I’m more motivated to continue remix and collect the remaining collectables I need.
As long as Delves are faster than Torghast. I never did finish the Torghast in Shadowlands, I got burned out on it fast. Took too long to complete.
Just had a horrendous flashback; how are delves not Torgast 2.0?
I hope they make more solo dungeons available
@johernandez266
22 күн бұрын
We should get follower dungeons from now on in each new Xpac.
Yah not spending a single bronze until the last days of the event. You know closer to the end they are going to keep buffing everything and maybe even lowering prices. I never understood why everyone kept upgrading gear over buying the actual items you get to keep.
Big changes tbh. But with all due respect bliz. I will NOT be using pet as MM. I'm playing MM because I do not want to use a pet. I would have played bm or Surv if I wanted a pet.
@raymondluca7779
22 күн бұрын
honest question which is better 5% dps or 5% attack speed cuz thats the dif of having a pet or not for marksmen
still no account wide pet collection?
@warthorus6342
22 күн бұрын
That is already a thing
@Asag321
22 күн бұрын
What do you mean? Its account wide for few years now.
@grennbalze
22 күн бұрын
Do you mean hunter pets?
@michaelbowling1362
22 күн бұрын
If you mean Hunter Pets then I agree... it's annoying having a Horde Hunter and Alliance Hunter who don't have access to the same Hunter Pets.
@michaelbowling1362
22 күн бұрын
@@warthorus6342 If you mean Hunter Pets then you are wrong - Battle pets then you are correct
i hope for the delves season they dont do cosmetics tied to x season only
I'm just waiting for the rise of survival hunters, they look to be in a decent shape
Honestly the Bronze buff is nice but not enough. I like to play multi chars at once and power them all up to max around the same time. I like the way Final Fantasy 14 does it with the job system. I don’t want to have to reform all that bronze just to change my play style which is what i am doing when i change classes. I don’t believe in having a main character because I could never limit myself that way to focusing on any one character for however, many months. I don’t play that way.
i just recently got my hunter geared after him sitting for years
He meant "Forsight"
I’m a very casual wow player, can someone tell me why the whole exotic pet thing being exclusive is even a thing? It makes the class way less desirable to me
Ayooooo Hunters bout to pump even more 😍
They really should jaut rebate survival engineers and give us turrets thst shoot bombs
Creatures hit WAY too hard for TWW. In less than 2 seconds you die because level 80's are hit ultra hard. They really need to fine tune it badly.
I miss when hunters were able to switch from ranged to melee combat without having to swap talents.
Nothing against Hunters gettin some. But i have suggestion about Questing: Could we get like a GHOST mode, technicly it would be more like singleplayer experience for questing. I simply hate adhd players coming in and fking shiet up, sorry. The HEALTH bar could just be lighted differently, maybe like the colors in when you are dead right ? Cyanlightblue ish. This would be activated just like WAR mode, ina a city, city you can see other players and do trade. I also hate the tag war going on when the zone is small to gather quest items, it is just horrible experience right now, and specially when expansion or season starts theres like 100 players perr quest fking it up. Anyone else feel this way ? I dont have adhd, i play my own speed.
Ah, might go hunter main again then.
I already gave up on hunter, Im tired of the stigma on it and people rejecting survival without even knowing what the fuck it does
@frankwebster9110
22 күн бұрын
I have stuck with it, and it has not always been fun. Especially pvp. I take breaks on my alts, but I prefer playing ranged, specifically hunter. Maybe it will be time for them to shine!
@Aquanios08
22 күн бұрын
The former Hunter mains know what the fuck it does. For me, Surv died when Blizz decided it’s a melee bombardier class, not “Survival”. I miss trap build, Black Arrow, etc. I still dabble with it every so often. On the real, unfortunately, Surv gets outclassed by all the other melee meta classes. Blame Blizz for that. They dictate what becomes meta.
@EclipseWarlord
22 күн бұрын
Survival use to be about increasing survivability. We would get increases to Dodge and Parry, extension of Deterrence's duration, improved counter attacks and mobility punishment, and other related things. Of course, you were able to put points into all three talent trees back then. I don't enjoy the 2-hander + bombs play style with pet. Something about it just doesn't work for me.
Shaman zero reworks while everyone else has had 5 shaman class dead.
The dreaded level 67 paper armor has returned. If an NPC farts near you you'll die.
I feel like the Hunter rework is relative. It's a huge step in the right direction. However, there are still things that reek of "Blizzard doesn't understand their own game". Specifically: - Hunter defensives are finally going to be on par with other classes, but self-sustain will still be the worst in the game(exc. SV). - MM will still need a pet for most of their utility. - BM will still lose too much AoE in a ST build and too much ST in an AoE build. - Fewer multi-point talents, but still several virtually useless talents. Kindred Spirits and Scare Beast? - And, of course, the Hero talents are still boring and clearly lopsided. They aren't balanced between the two specs at all.
tsk tsk Kel, hunter's have always been the best class hehe
Removing sentinel is lame. Such a cool idea.
Foresight.
@joek2978
23 күн бұрын
Thank you, I just sent this aloud as I was listening instead of watching to the video
Foresight*
Bronze buff came 1 week after i had already bought every single thing you can buy with bronze xD
PLEASE HELP BREWMASTER'S PLEASE :( ITS BEEN TOOO LOOOOONG
@Zerg777
23 күн бұрын
Brew lookin good in ww
@alexandrelfilho
23 күн бұрын
@@Zerg777 everyone says that every season of this game until its fokin not, we be suffering since season 3 BFA ITS BEEN 4 YEARRRRRRRRS
@mewbinator7397
22 күн бұрын
Bad news....it seems Brew Monk is one of the squishiest tanks and the Hero talents are pretty inconsiquential.
@Zerg777
22 күн бұрын
@@mewbinator7397 didnt they get like major way major defensives overall for their spec tree? I heard stagger might be bugged/not scaling prop
huntard`s comeback? :D
What they need to do. Is remove the weapon degrade with spamming Rapid Fire. Its 2024. Blizzard make it do on hit, but not destroy the bow.
Hunter Hero Talent aren't great. I don't like having to talent a certain way to get benefit from hero talents. For survival, coordinated assault is not a talent option, it is a talent requirement.
There is a 0% that blizzard won't just get in their own way AGAIN and make these gated so hard that no one will want to do them.
Eh MoP remix was a failure since people could cry and have your stuff taken away the only thing that will get me back into remix if they give me my cloak back.
BM was just fine and they should have left it alone.
I'm interested in trying a BM build without bestial wrath, to see if it's viable.
@warthorus6342
22 күн бұрын
lmfao thats like trying to play paladin without wings
@diesel581
16 күн бұрын
@@warthorus6342 Right! looooooooool
re bronze buff: NOPE. MoP remix is boring AF, it was neat for like the first week but then it was just so soooo boring. MoP transmogs are imo super ugly, so I just got a couple of the new class mogs and the mounts I wanted and called it quits. I don't see any reason to go back to it. Delves are great but there's tuning needed, some of them are wildly overtuned and some are wildly undertuned. not listening to raid info, I prefer to have some things be a surprise.
the hunter rework is DOPE. just saying
Foresight, not hindsight.
The real change will come when they finally let us use the pets we want without having to choose between two or three just for the skill (for example, raptors in pvp). So bad design. Just let us choose the skill.
As a long time melee SV main, the changes are really bad IMO Tip of the Spear is absolute dogwater mechanic and the recent removal/rework of Mongoose Fury has made the specs most iconic ability utterly flavorless. I will not be maining the spec in War Within, sadly that is a sentence I never thought that I would say.
Rip shamans zero reworks the most neglected class in wow😢
def not shaman since shaman didnt get any updates KEK
I think BM was fine as it was idk about beta..
I still don't understand how to upgrade the gear from Remix 😮
@havtor007
23 күн бұрын
There is an upgrade guy in the place where you get the daily quest.
@PixelPioneer2
23 күн бұрын
@@havtor007 upgrade green gear or wait for some quality items?
@havtor007
23 күн бұрын
@@PixelPioneer2 That i can not help you with i just started to play this 2days ago. Blue gear has main stat though.
@kinglearisdead
22 күн бұрын
@@PixelPioneer2 If you run heroic dungeons, lots of blue gear will drop.
@ampleoq
22 күн бұрын
@@PixelPioneer2 dont bother waiting for epic gear, but dont upgrade ur green gear either. Just get Rare(blue) gear and upgrade it to the max. You can swap later for epic gear once you start clearing raids in heroic. The upgrades will have a big discount
And I just went back to GW2
i leveled over 30 characters to 70 on 3 different servers.. :)
give mm mortal strike and remove the pet pleaseeeeeeeeeee
As a hunter main, this sounds promising. Hunter has not felt fun since BFA, and even back then, it wasn't great. You are basically forced to roll BM, and then just spam 2 buttons
First
8th
A hunter is never hit because they have a pet, how can they not stay alive. Nubs.
Intimidation without pet? Give me a break.
become the best? theyve always been the best.
I am like number 747
FORESIGHT