Did God Really Command GENOCIDE In The Old Testament? (Two Important Answers!)

In this video, we feature a clip from a Q&A with Frank Turek and then also a portion of a lecture given by Dr. Michael Heiser...
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  • @traymac11
    @traymac1117 күн бұрын

    As a former student of Dr. Heiser and a long-time fan of his, I'm so grateful you included some of his teachings. I still miss Professor Heiser, but I praise God for his legacy.

  • @Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom

    @Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom

    17 күн бұрын

    Christians never die ❤️

  • @redrebelleader-7495

    @redrebelleader-7495

    17 күн бұрын

    @@Daily_Dose_Of_WisdomYes, and amen! I thank you too. It’s refreshing to hear someone else picking up this side of the story. We need to keep with the ancient Israelite in our head.

  • @traymac11

    @traymac11

    17 күн бұрын

    @@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom Amen, brother!

  • @mcar86

    @mcar86

    17 күн бұрын

    I’ve heard ideas from him about what the text actually says that I haven’t heard anyone else teach. Dr Heiser was not afraid to go against doctrine, and he brought his evidence every time. I don’t agree with everything he taught, but I learned a lot about HOW he taught. Free to break free from church beliefs that the church just made up

  • @RemnantDiscipleLazzaro-Rev1217

    @RemnantDiscipleLazzaro-Rev1217

    17 күн бұрын

    ​@@mcar86 Also Dr. Michael Heiser, i've known about him for many years, it is with honour i state this not to disparage him in anyway but due to his lack of well-enough knowledge of factual operational science, he allowed himself to be seduced into the very popular Far Western KZread pagan reading of Genesis regarding the giants, very sad he allowed himself to be seduced into such with all that academic knowledge he had.

  • @ndibunwapeter9013
    @ndibunwapeter901317 күн бұрын

    If God stops all evil, no human would be alive.🤷‍♀️

  • @Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom

    @Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom

    17 күн бұрын

    A very good point!

  • @jakestrother9032

    @jakestrother9032

    17 күн бұрын

    AMEN AMEN AMEN 🙏🙏

  • @DM-dk7js

    @DM-dk7js

    17 күн бұрын

    @@muppetonmedsnot me. Hardly. Can’t think of a single thing actually. Must be a YOU problem.

  • @wet-read

    @wet-read

    17 күн бұрын

    If you're gonna be a misanthrope, then just be one. Own it.

  • @righteousbyfaithinChrist

    @righteousbyfaithinChrist

    17 күн бұрын

    Wrong... Evil are the ungodly...that those have not put their faith in Jesus Christ. Anti -theist. Not every human being falls in this category.

  • @Mark-zo1hs
    @Mark-zo1hs14 күн бұрын

    I was a former atheist and I mean it with every single molecule in my body, I am extremely happy that God decided to open my eyes and show me His love. I am happy that I know now what and who is the real Way, the Truth, and the Life. Disregarding God is one of the greatest mistakes one can make. I pray that Jesus pours over his love and mercy to others who are lost just like I was.

  • @CaptainFantastic222

    @CaptainFantastic222

    14 күн бұрын

    Every theist is a former atheist. Thanks for the kind words

  • @mentalwarfare2038

    @mentalwarfare2038

    14 күн бұрын

    Well yeah, if you define atheist to mean “lack of belief in God”, then even rocks can be atheists. Atheism: literally as dumb as rocks.

  • @mentalwarfare2038

    @mentalwarfare2038

    14 күн бұрын

    Well yeah, if you define atheism to mean “lack of a belief in God”, then even rocks can be defined as atheists. Atheism: literally as dumb as rocks

  • @mentalwarfare2038

    @mentalwarfare2038

    14 күн бұрын

    @@CaptainFantastic222 Well yeah, if you define atheism to mean "lack of belief in God", then even rocks qualify as atheists. Atheism: literally as dumb as rocks

  • @barakasha2812

    @barakasha2812

    11 күн бұрын

    How did you come to Jesus?

  • @anaveragehuman2937
    @anaveragehuman293714 күн бұрын

    Cody is the kind of person who has a lot to say, including questions, but isn't necessarily looking for answers in good faith. I was like this. There is hope for him!

  • @Feirin332

    @Feirin332

    12 күн бұрын

    The Old Testament can feel quite harsh when you're viewing it through a modern lens. Dr. Heiser was very right to point out that there is context to consider. It changes things quite radically, but you have to be willing to go a bit deeper than just the translated Biblical text. It's just not enough to fully understand what was going on there.

  • @davidgood7621

    @davidgood7621

    10 күн бұрын

    He doesnt know whose standards he is really upholding. He doesnt understand God's will. The will of God is for the redemption of His creation. The will of man, if it is not for God, is for the will of the creature.

  • @haitaelpastor976

    @haitaelpastor976

    6 күн бұрын

    @@davidgood7621 It's God who created us this way. Offering us "redemption" for what he designed us to do is quite a sick game.

  • @davidgood7621

    @davidgood7621

    6 күн бұрын

    @@haitaelpastor976 God did not create us this way. We were the image of perfection but now we live in our fallen state. We are corrupted from birth. This remains our plight after our expulsion from eden. So if we're to be with God, it requires purification.

  • @TheKonnoisseur11

    @TheKonnoisseur11

    5 күн бұрын

    What are the reasons you would DISOBEY god if he told you directly to K*ll someone ??? the question will remain unanswered.

  • @ivanelugo
    @ivanelugo17 күн бұрын

    And even, the Canaanites had their opportunity for repentance, they had 40 years after the Hebrews went free from Egypt and the only one that repented and accepted God was Rahab, she and her family didn't die on the invasion, and there is the city of Nineveh too, God were to destroy them but they repent themselves and God forgive them, God always give us the chance to repent ourselves from our sins when we confess it to him

  • @316jun

    @316jun

    17 күн бұрын

    Weren't their children also killed?

  • @ivanelugo

    @ivanelugo

    17 күн бұрын

    @@316jun as it's said on the video, the Canaanites sacrificed their babies and children to their god, the ones that were left alive they grew up seeing that and their actions as something good and normal, also the Canaanites weren't innocent, they attacked the Hebrews during the 40 years on the desert many times

  • @RemnantDiscipleLazzaro-Rev1217

    @RemnantDiscipleLazzaro-Rev1217

    17 күн бұрын

    Generally Scripturally accurate from what i know as a older long time John 3:1-21 qualified disciple of the authentic austere Scriptural Lord Jesus.

  • @harrybinn4455

    @harrybinn4455

    17 күн бұрын

    Actually there were a lot more people that did not die. One whole city played the Jews and got a peace agreement. But then some of David's mighty men were members of the area that had rejected Canaanite lifestyle and integrated into Jewish society. Bathsheba's husband was one of them.

  • @theeternalsbeliever1779

    @theeternalsbeliever1779

    17 күн бұрын

    The Canaanites actually had 440 yrs to repent. God told Abram in Gen. 15:13-16 that his descendants would be afflicted in slavery for 400 yrs, during which time He would judge the sins of the Canaanites. God wanted to give the Israelites the land a lot sooner, but then He sentenced the Israelites to wander in the desert for 40 extra yrs because the majority of them refused to believe that God would help them conquer Canaan.

  • @2EdgedSword77
    @2EdgedSword7711 күн бұрын

    The key to truly understanding any Scripture: context, context, context.

  • @melancholymoshpit

    @melancholymoshpit

    10 күн бұрын

    I'm only 30 seconds in and I'm going to watch the whole video, but I promise the bible offers no justifiable moral context to slaughtering children. Edit: I spoke to soon. I see now that the Israelites gave the Amalekites an ultimatum. Leave or die. Makes much more sense why every man, woman, child, and animal had to die. Glad I was able to get the context finally.

  • @Spoiler_Alertist

    @Spoiler_Alertist

    2 күн бұрын

    exegesis! transformed my understanding of the biblical narrative.

  • @absolutelyfookinnobody2843

    @absolutelyfookinnobody2843

    2 күн бұрын

    Yea but, people will try to justify their veiw to extremes most of the time

  • @attackhelicopter-up3dh

    @attackhelicopter-up3dh

    Күн бұрын

    Indeed then you find out its all myth!

  • @L5player
    @L5player14 күн бұрын

    Dr. Heiser was the most engaging and informative biblical scholar I've ever heard, and I've heard a lot of them for over 50 years. His death from cancer about a year ago, at just 60, was a loss that many will be feeling for years to come. He revealed things from the text that I would never have seen on my own, and he gave me a perspective on Scripture that's been unmatched by any other teachers, pastors, or theologians. Other than his death, my only greater regret is not discovering him a decade earlier than I did. He was a treasure.

  • @andrewwallen888

    @andrewwallen888

    13 күн бұрын

    Amen to that!! Likewise!

  • @karmaplushie4007

    @karmaplushie4007

    10 күн бұрын

    You discovered him when you were meant to for your own personal journey. It's all done at God's Will.

  • @Lucas-bv1ps
    @Lucas-bv1ps12 күн бұрын

    Abraham offering is Isaac is definitely something that used to bother me as a child. However when I got older I understood that not only God knew who he was asking to do such an offering (He knew of course beforehand that Abraham would be loyal and Isaac too). Even more interesting is that this is of course very comparable to God offering his own son. This and more things in the Bible can be shocking at first but if you think things through and are not misled by your own fleeting feelings you will gain much deeper understanding.

  • @LukeSmith7777

    @LukeSmith7777

    4 күн бұрын

    What I didn’t understand until I was better studied: that Abraham knew he wasn’t being asked to kill Isaac in any permanent sense; Abraham believed he would be coming back down the mountain with a living son. As explained in Hebrews, Abraham figured (because he believed God when He said ‘through Isaac your seed will be blessed’) God would just bring Isaac back to life… In other words, he never believed he was sacrificing his son, and Gods never asked for human sacrifice.

  • @emrysmcwryn7902

    @emrysmcwryn7902

    Күн бұрын

    Thank goodness it isnt what it is because if it was what it was it would be a request for child sacrifice to prove loyalty. That would be out of step with christian morals, though totally in keeping with the rites and rituals practiced at the time. Is retcon. God of old testament asks for human sacrifice, endorses genocide and slavery. Just gotta retcon that older text so it dont look like it is what it was.

  • @Lucas-bv1ps

    @Lucas-bv1ps

    Күн бұрын

    ​@@emrysmcwryn7902As I described your reaction is emotional and very understandable but incorrect. You must realise God loves us so much he sacrificed himself to save us. From that starting point try to see the bigger picture of things. Also we can not understand everything God does that is why we need to trust him.

  • @rightousnesspursuer6523

    @rightousnesspursuer6523

    Күн бұрын

    ​@@emrysmcwryn7902 There is no human sacrifice commanded by God in the ot. "Give your firstborns to me" is not sacrifice.

  • @mikeballard8404
    @mikeballard840413 күн бұрын

    Hebrews 11:17-19 explains God's perspective. This is why it's important to know God's word!!!

  • @vijaymurthy8286

    @vijaymurthy8286

    9 күн бұрын

    This is true. First of all. One must have trust and faith in God, only then other things are understood. God is Good all the time. .

  • @chrisquiett1776
    @chrisquiett177617 күн бұрын

    Dude came in heavy but I wouldn't call him rude. He was abrasive but we all are at times. I respect his questioning

  • @matthewfetke8488

    @matthewfetke8488

    16 күн бұрын

    He asks one of the most difficult questions and one that can only be answered by studying the Bible and gaining an understanding of who God is. Demanding that it was "a yes or no question" was rude. It was also not a sincere question; he was trying to trap the speaker. If it was a sincere question he would not have put restraints on the proper response to said question.

  • @izabellavanryn3531

    @izabellavanryn3531

    16 күн бұрын

    @@matthewfetke8488 He didn't really want a real answer by reducing it to a yes or no question.

  • @bufficliff8978

    @bufficliff8978

    16 күн бұрын

    @@matthewfetke8488Demanding a yes or no answer to a very hard question isn't rude. It shows ignorance, but being ignorant isn't rude especially when it's in a Q&A where ignorance is the prerequisite. Being challenging isn't rude of a questioner to do. The asker stood his ground and wasn't satisfied like how MOST people are not satisfied by an answer like Turek's.

  • @tamalam

    @tamalam

    16 күн бұрын

    Yeah he asked good questions but it's silly to say it's a yes and no question. Like, what? Says who? Seems a tiny bit arrogant.

  • @robertdouglas8895

    @robertdouglas8895

    15 күн бұрын

    A person who can justify God's killing will justify wars as the Jews did.

  • @kylenewberry8598
    @kylenewberry85989 күн бұрын

    Reminds me of this quote: “If only it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?” ― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn,

  • @Spoiler_Alertist

    @Spoiler_Alertist

    2 күн бұрын

    so much wisdom in this man's writings. Gulag Archipelago should be mandatory reading.

  • @davidhenderson6255
    @davidhenderson625514 күн бұрын

    Love Dr. Heiser and his explanation. He has challenged me and my understanding of the universe in so many ways. He will be missed, but his legacy is so worthy of a well done.

  • @TruthSeekerAll
    @TruthSeekerAll12 күн бұрын

    Dr Heisser's deep knowledge on the subject is amazing. 👍🎯💯

  • @theguyver4934

    @theguyver4934

    9 күн бұрын

    It's really sad that dr michael heiser has died because his knowledge and wisdom is much needed for the Christian faith May Allah swt bless him respect from a Muslim

  • @briankregg6329

    @briankregg6329

    5 күн бұрын

    Heiser was a pagan polytheist and a deceiver

  • @godsgoodnessandgrace
    @godsgoodnessandgrace11 күн бұрын

    Abraham did not murder his son. God stopped him. God showed his merciful love for us by showing He is not like the false gods of the land. God says I would never ask you to sacrifice your son. I AM going to sacrifice my Son for you. ❤ A beautiful foreshadowing of the Cross 🥰

  • @mattjohnson9753

    @mattjohnson9753

    9 күн бұрын

    Why did God slaughter thousands of innocent Egyptian children on Passover for the sins of the Pharaoh? God is in violation of Gods very own law in Ezekiel 19.

  • @Bullzeye1000yds

    @Bullzeye1000yds

    7 күн бұрын

    God DID tell Abraham to sacrifice his son. Through obedience to God, who is above ALL things, Abraham wholly intended to do as God ordered. God stopped him. Abraham proved his trust and obedience. So GOD was willing to set His Son upon the earth to have Jesus defeat death for us. Obedience is the final answer.

  • @haitaelpastor976

    @haitaelpastor976

    6 күн бұрын

    @@Bullzeye1000yds "Obey me or I'll send you to eternal Hell". Is that the point?

  • @Bullzeye1000yds

    @Bullzeye1000yds

    6 күн бұрын

    @@haitaelpastor976 No. Always look to JOHN 3:16. Obedience and Trust are tantamount to a child's life. Obedience is what holds us to the narrow path. The only path to our Father. Faith is based on it.

  • @1foolishcaribou195

    @1foolishcaribou195

    5 күн бұрын

    @@mattjohnson9753 I wonder that maybe you watched a different video

  • @ericaglesk3254
    @ericaglesk325416 күн бұрын

    Hi. Just came across your channel. I’ve been on this “spiritual path” forever but would not even consider Jesus might actually be the answer. I’m now open to learning& giving prayer a try. I was stuck for years in what is called non duality. It’s very popular. Eastern/ Buddhism type thing. Its core message is we are all one being. The person& world is an illusion. No free will, no doer, everything is just happening, no evil, just life happening. I see new age videos addressed by christians but never non duality. Which is new age but the guru’s & teachers would disagree! Rupert Spira, simply always awake,& Jim Newman are very popular KZread channels. Most followers believe they will overcome suffering because there is no self to suffer. I became Nihilistic. Just wanted to ask& to say thanks for your channel & others. They are really helping me see Christ in a new light.

  • @xabisogxoyiya8022

    @xabisogxoyiya8022

    13 күн бұрын

    Wow, this is awesome. I pray that you seek him diligently and give him a full chance. I used to mock religious people. Now I feel like a fool for not believing in Jesus. I would recommend reading the book of Matthew and or John if you haven’t already. Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. May God fill you with the Holy Spirit and guide your steps as you seek him, in Jesus name. A lot of what you are asking is addressed in the bible. Just keep reading and pray to god to open your eyes for understanding. I say this because the most important thing is to read the word for yourself. We are told to test the spirit so that includes testing what I say. There are many false teachers so always refer to scripture and you will be safe. Anyway take care and keep well. God bless you sister.

  • @pigzcanfly444

    @pigzcanfly444

    13 күн бұрын

    Just believe on Jesus alone and you shall be saved. If you want to see it I scripture, please read the gospel of John, the Epistles to the Romans chapter 4, Ephesians chapter 2 and Paul's Letter to Titus chapter 3. These will make the gospel quite clear for you and moving forward aim to grow in discipleship once you have put your trust in Jesus. I pray the Father will send you many more things to help you. Every good and perfect gift comes from our Father.

  • @DianeTurney

    @DianeTurney

    12 күн бұрын

    It's only been 11 years since my eyes were opened and I accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. I began the journey very late in life and researched most of the world's most popular religions. In my youth I was Catholic but walked away from the faith in my teens and was in the wilderness for 40 years. I have two recommendations for books that you might enjoy and help you discover the truth. First I recommend "Kingdom of the Cults" by Walter Martin. The other is "Evidence that Demands a Verdict" by Sean and Josh McDowell. Both of these are nearly exhaustive in their research and answers. I pray that the one true God of Christianity reveals himself to you and you find the truth and freedom you seek. God bless you

  • @ericaglesk3254

    @ericaglesk3254

    12 күн бұрын

    @@DianeTurney @xabisogxoyiya8022 It sounds nuts but I’ve been dealing with Alien beings& sleep paralysis for 30 years. They are demons! I tried every “spiritual path”but turning to Jesus. It was like a no go zone. I was way to open mined for Jesus or the Bible.. how crazy! I am so greatful he is opening my eyes to this dark hole of deception. I appreciate everyone’s advice & help. For once in my life I’m putting my faith in Jesus that he will revel the steps. So far he has. God Bless and thank you all for your help& advice. It’s completely new to me but I do have faith, something I never had before.❤️🙏

  • @jasoncabral8732

    @jasoncabral8732

    8 күн бұрын

    Buddha says to evaluate teachings based on the effects they have on your life. Try it. See how prayer and even the smallest belief and love for Jesus affects you. Ask questions. I'm Catholic but love Buddhism and am familiar with the metaphysics you're talking about. Discussion for another time. I think nonduality haits's place and actually makes sense. You can view it as One God. One Reality. One Word. But keep in mind we are only people. Our attempts to understand reality are limited and bound to be only part of the truth. Sti, l we have to live. Jesus will be enormously helpful as you go through life whatever your philosophical outlook may be at the time. I think you'll find, even a ..mustard seed...of faith will go a long way. Best to you.

  • @billfrierson8268
    @billfrierson826816 күн бұрын

    So, so happy to see Dr. Heiser on here! Such an important teacher. As a homeschool parent who takes theology and apologetics seriously for my highschooler, thank you so much for what you do!

  • @trumpbellend6717

    @trumpbellend6717

    16 күн бұрын

    "Homeschool parent" Indoctrination

  • @trumpbellend6717

    @trumpbellend6717

    16 күн бұрын

    I believe in teaching my children morality and my moral reference standard tells me that *"Buy your slaves from the heathen nations that surround you"* Is not nor ever was a "moral" instruction and certainly not a moral reference standard that anyone should adhere or aspire to. Do you agree *YES or NO* ?? 🤔

  • @mentalwarfare2038

    @mentalwarfare2038

    14 күн бұрын

    @@trumpbellend6717 Biblical "slavery" did not involve capture (Exodus 21:16). Runaway slaves also had legal protections (Deuteronomy 23:16). Biblical slavery was used for the paying off of debt and poverty. So yes, slaves were bought from the nations around Israel and within Israel. Compare this to other ancient codes like the Code of Hammurabi, and suddenly, the Bible seems a lot more moral.

  • @trumpbellend6717

    @trumpbellend6717

    14 күн бұрын

    @@mentalwarfare2038 // "biblical slavery did not involve capture" // Lol biblical slaves could be bought, captured in battle or simply bred according to God's instructions dear. Why don't you read Deuteronomy 20 : 10 - 14 and then explain what it says dear. ? 😜 // "Exodus 21 : 16" // Hillarious, you are unable to provide a biblical verse forbidding "slavery" to counter the many that endorse it so you simply redefine something the bible DOES forbid "kidnapping" or "man stealing and pretend that's slavery 🤭😅🤣 "KIDNAPPING" is NOT "slavery" its forbidden to steal slaves NOT to OWN them *To say DO NOT* _"STEAL"_ *CARS is completely different than DO NOT* _"OWN"_ *CARS* I think you will find the laws in the Antebellum South also forbid the stealing of slaves dear 🤭😅 PS You do understand that Deuteronomy 24 7 clarifies that this applied to "FELLOW ISRAELITES" not the non hebrews don't you ??

  • @trumpbellend6717

    @trumpbellend6717

    14 күн бұрын

    @@mentalwarfare2038 The verse you mention from Deuteronomy regarding how to handle a runaway slave. The concensus among biblical scholars is that this verse refers specifically to foreign slaves that have escaped to your lands from the enemies that the *previous verse* spoke of defeating and the surrounding lands. Hence the " let him live in "your" midst " ( the Israelites) and being able to pick one of "your" (the Israelites) towns to live in. This once again is no different than that from some of the American chattel slave states that forbid the returning of runaway slaves from other states whilst still permitting slave ownership. For example ..... Pennsylvania ( 1780 ) "No negro or mulatto slave... shall be removed out of this state, with the design and intention that the place of abode or residence of such slave or servant shall be thereby altered or changed."

  • @MINDWARDEN
    @MINDWARDEN17 күн бұрын

    Love Dr. Michael S. Heiser. He has a very interesting approach to scripture that is hard to argue with. I’ve certainly learned from him over the years, and I still wrestle with things he taught when he was here with us.

  • @Bunnyinthebasement
    @Bunnyinthebasement15 күн бұрын

    In The Evidence Bible, they make a point that God didn’t command Abraham to “kill” Isaac, but to “offer” Isaac as a sacrifice. Big difference in wording.

  • @grandmagrace9453

    @grandmagrace9453

    13 күн бұрын

    Excellent point

  • @melancholymoshpit

    @melancholymoshpit

    10 күн бұрын

    What kind of sacrifice? 🤔

  • @Chris-wh3yz

    @Chris-wh3yz

    10 күн бұрын

    It’s well understood it meant offer as in kill. But Abraham trusted God and believed he would either stop him or raise him up. The Lord stopped him and provided a offering to be sacrificed. Testing Abrahams faith.

  • @Postmillhighlights

    @Postmillhighlights

    7 күн бұрын

    Offer him as a burnt offering? Can you do that without killing him? In order to try to avoid certain implications, we end up taking a position that is laughable.

  • @melancholymoshpit

    @melancholymoshpit

    7 күн бұрын

    @@Postmillhighlights The bible doesn't mean what it says it means unless what it means is what it says it means. 😂😂😂

  • @andrewwallen888
    @andrewwallen88813 күн бұрын

    Thank you for finding the Dr Heiser’s ministry!! He’s a wealth of theological knowledge! Please keep providing his work. It will add so much to your amazing ministry you already have! 🙏🏼🙏🏼

  • @sanitman1488
    @sanitman148814 күн бұрын

    Chuck Missler goes DEEP INTO this.

  • @Cybersammyasiedu

    @Cybersammyasiedu

    2 күн бұрын

    Yeah, chuck does a great job with that.

  • @ernestoarceo4779
    @ernestoarceo477916 күн бұрын

    No one can steal what belongs to him. All life belongs to God. So when He takes it away for reasons that we may not understand, He does not commit murder. However, when a man takes his life or that of another, he commits murder, because neither his life nor that of another belongs to him, but to God.

  • @user-eg4te4kq4f

    @user-eg4te4kq4f

    16 күн бұрын

    I see, so he's an indiangiver

  • @markh1011

    @markh1011

    15 күн бұрын

    With that logic, murdering your own children is fine....

  • @Thenextperson
    @Thenextperson17 күн бұрын

    Also, Abraham did ritual sacrifices. God’s request wasn’t arbitrary, he simply told Abraham to replace the animal with Isaac for his testing. Not just random” kill Isaac”

  • @jacquesalbert8942

    @jacquesalbert8942

    17 күн бұрын

    I think that it goes even deeper than this. As we know from what Dr. Turek mentioned, other "gods" demanded that their people sacrifice to them their children. So, just as much of the Old Testament Law was intended to set Israel apart from the nations, the test of Abraham accomplished the same thing: As I understand it, God was sending the message that far from demanding the sacrifice of children, He Himself would sacrifice His own Son for us (a complete 180 turn). Abraham said, “God will provide for himself the lamb for a burnt offering, my son,” and later in the reading, God does provides a ram. But the lamb that God ultimately provides is Jesus, His own Son, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world.

  • @user-sg7ru7vg7l

    @user-sg7ru7vg7l

    17 күн бұрын

    @@jacquesalbert8942exactly!!

  • @RemnantDiscipleLazzaro-Rev1217

    @RemnantDiscipleLazzaro-Rev1217

    17 күн бұрын

    @@jacquesalbert8942 As one as myself who is a elder long time Bible Textuary... your reading is one of the layers of generally corrects Acts 17 Berean study.

  • @johnhedtke7571

    @johnhedtke7571

    17 күн бұрын

    @@jacquesalbert8942Very good insights! Today as believers we partake in the Lords Supper. His Blood, and Body. I don't get it all. I don't pretend to understand it 100%. Literally EVERY religion on the earth has some type of sacrifice/atonement. Even in Politics things are demanded to be sacrificed for whatever the cause maybe. I have come to believe that sacrifice/atonement, is something that GOD has implanted in our being. And we understand this process has to take place. Even as non Christians this is understood. The difference is the World/non believers get it wrong and don't understand their sacrifice, Just as CAIN'S is not acceptable to Father God.

  • @scottm4042

    @scottm4042

    17 күн бұрын

    From what I have heard about the Body and Blood, the Catholic may see this as literal, but most Protestants see this as symbolic to be done in remembrance. Jesus is the Word. So, when we feast on the Word of God, we consume the Truth.

  • @MiggsG97
    @MiggsG9711 күн бұрын

    Long time underling of Dr. Mike Heiser, it brings me joy to see him on such an educated channel. He was most certainly an extraordinary theologian, yet knew what he was doing. When it comes to exegesis, Heiser was perhaps the best in modern times.

  • @chrischristensen6462
    @chrischristensen646212 күн бұрын

    I really like how put this sort of teaser together. We're very fortunate to have such great people for each aspect of these questions. Many people are really busy and sadly clueless to these insights from focused great Christians. Thanks

  • @Anthony_Marquis
    @Anthony_Marquis17 күн бұрын

    I love the Cody-cameos at Frank Turek's events! 😂

  • @TheNationOfTexas

    @TheNationOfTexas

    15 күн бұрын

    The kid is smart as a whip! If he keeps asking these questions, he'll eventually arrive to the truth.

  • @jpnoobieeiboonpj858
    @jpnoobieeiboonpj85817 күн бұрын

    Thank you for bringing in Dr Heisers work. He is the most effective teacher of my lifetime.

  • @TheScriptureTruth
    @TheScriptureTruth14 күн бұрын

    One thing that all atheists miss, and unfortunately most Christians, is that Abraham knew he was not going to have to sacrifice Isaac... When preparing for the journey and sacrifice, Isaac asked Abraham where the lamb for the sacrifice was. Abraham said that God would provide the lamb... Abraham was not lying to Isaac! Abraham had faith in God and trusted that God indeed would provide the lamb and not require the sacrifice of Isaac. Again, when Abraham told Isaac that God would provide the lamb, he was not lying to Isaac. Abraham did not understand God's full plan, but he knew through faith that God had a plan and would indeed provide a substitute. God was not "immoral" for commanding the sacrifice of Isaac because it was never the true plan or intent by God. The whole point was to show the plan of substitutional sacrifice by a lamb provided by God (i.e. THE Lamb of God - Jesus Christ). This was a demonstration of the plan of salvation, never at any point was Isaac in true danger of being sacrificed. Abraham understood this this from the moment God gave the command! He did not understand the whole plan of what God (as we often do not understand God's ways) but Abraham had the faith in God to follow His command and trust that sacrificing Isaac was not God's true intention. This passage is not only a foreshadowing of Jesus Christ as the Lamb of God, but also a lesson in faith and trusting that God always has a plan, and that God's plan is always perfect and always for our benefit.

  • @danielreeves7301

    @danielreeves7301

    13 күн бұрын

    I actually just had this same thought while watching the video. Thanks for posting it!

  • @jt5747

    @jt5747

    13 күн бұрын

    Hebrews 11:19

  • @bugsocsollie1694

    @bugsocsollie1694

    13 күн бұрын

    "God will provide Himself a sacrifice..." "Take your son, your only Son, the Son that you love..." Abraham had two sons at that point.

  • @jt5747

    @jt5747

    13 күн бұрын

    @@bugsocsollie1694 but only one son of the promise.

  • @Postmillhighlights

    @Postmillhighlights

    7 күн бұрын

    ‘Abraham knew he would not have to sacrifice Isaac.’ No. That’s not what the scriptures say. Abraham fully expected to kill Isaac but that God would raise him from the dead. Hebrews 11:17-19 [17] By faith Abraham, when he was tested, offered up Isaac, and he who had received the promises was in the act of offering up his only son, [18] of whom it was said, “Through Isaac shall your offspring be named.” [19] He considered that God was able even to raise him from the dead, from which, figuratively speaking, he did receive him back.

  • @K-Effect
    @K-Effect12 күн бұрын

    Dr. Heiser is awesome, he helped me understand the Bible and Christianity in ways I would’ve never been able to on my own

  • @victoriasweets8441
    @victoriasweets844117 күн бұрын

    #1❤ wow this is very interesting. I’m sure a lot of people often wonder about these sort of things I know I do. Thanks for dropping some new content.

  • @Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom

    @Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom

    17 күн бұрын

    You are so welcome! Hope it helps! 🙏❤️

  • @DiggitySlice
    @DiggitySlice14 күн бұрын

    Cody doesn't want answers, he wants a gotcha

  • @brianmitchell8964

    @brianmitchell8964

    13 күн бұрын

    No he wants an honest answer . The fact he can't answer is a "gotcha"

  • @merrelljones

    @merrelljones

    9 күн бұрын

    He did answer

  • @BK-hq7tn

    @BK-hq7tn

    9 күн бұрын

    ​@@brianmitchell8964 Intellectually dishonest, clearly answered.

  • @DaddyKratosOfTheShire
    @DaddyKratosOfTheShire17 күн бұрын

    May Dr Michael Heiser rest in the arms of CHRIST

  • @RemnantDiscipleLazzaro-Rev1217

    @RemnantDiscipleLazzaro-Rev1217

    17 күн бұрын

    It's actually "the Christ" not "Christ."

  • @HiItsme-zu1yz

    @HiItsme-zu1yz

    17 күн бұрын

    Amen

  • @nikao7751

    @nikao7751

    17 күн бұрын

    ​@@RemnantDiscipleLazzaro-Rev1217really? Do you know how many times in the scriptures it just says Christ? And this is by people who actually walked, talked and lived with Christ, so, you sure you wanna stick to your position? It's a pretty simple fact check.

  • @KSATSpotting

    @KSATSpotting

    16 күн бұрын

    @@nikao7751 they didnt speak english sice it didnt exist. If u translate it literally, it's the christ bc it's a title, not a name

  • @nikao7751

    @nikao7751

    16 күн бұрын

    @@KSATSpotting well, even Jesus referred to himself as Christ, so if it's good enough for him..... And I understand that Jesus Christ is a title. ‭Matthew 22:42 KJV‬ [42] saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The son of David. ‭Luke 24:26 KJV‬ [26] ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory? I'm just trying to point out that it's not wrong to refer to Jesus as just Christ, he has many names, and if someone wants to refer to him as the Christ that's fine, just as if someone wants to refer to him as Christ is fine.

  • @serafinaitalia
    @serafinaitalia15 күн бұрын

    Great video. I first found about your work when you made an apologetics documentary a few years ago, which was great. I’m a big Heiser fan so I really appreciate you giving two different views.

  • @javiermedina6144
    @javiermedina614416 күн бұрын

    I love these videos you've been doing. I've been learning a lot lately!

  • @Chris_Gangstad
    @Chris_Gangstad17 күн бұрын

    ••• CODY! ••• I was here to see this Turek presentation in Lincoln, NE.

  • @TheNationOfTexas

    @TheNationOfTexas

    15 күн бұрын

    Cody seems to keep popping up! 😂

  • @ryanstivers8797
    @ryanstivers879716 күн бұрын

    Yes!! Dr Heiser!! So many miss this about the cannanite conquest!!

  • @sinnz146
    @sinnz14617 күн бұрын

    Love the content brotha!

  • @MartinMartian63
    @MartinMartian6317 күн бұрын

    “This is a simple yes or no question Doc” is structuring. Making a question where the opposing side can’t lay out their opinion in the way they would normally answer is flat out immoral and should be shamed for the lack of ethics involved the questions design.

  • @miloradvlaovic

    @miloradvlaovic

    17 күн бұрын

    It wasn't even a simple "yes or no" question to begin with, as it literally demanded foretelling future - and that coming from an atheist. Irony at its finest.

  • @cryptojihadi265

    @cryptojihadi265

    17 күн бұрын

    It's worse than both of those. It's a false premise. God would never ask you to murder your wife and kids. That's all he needed to reply with. NEVER accept a false premise.

  • @natalyd9674

    @natalyd9674

    17 күн бұрын

    Exactly. His mind was arrogantly made up already. He did not want to hear an opposing viewpoint. He only wanted to be heard. Pride goes before destruction.

  • @joshuaroberts2137

    @joshuaroberts2137

    17 күн бұрын

    It's a false dichotomy, he created a question where neither side is the right answer and he knows that Turek wouldn't say yes or no because it's not a fair question.

  • @VictorMachadoJesus

    @VictorMachadoJesus

    17 күн бұрын

    Is Naive think that is was a good or faie quest, that Kind of question must be ignored

  • @roblane5699
    @roblane569913 күн бұрын

    The answer to the question asked requires way more time than Dr. Turek had to give. Generally speaking, those who are anti-GOD don’t really care to sincerely search for true understanding of His Word. They only seek out things in scripture that appear to be contradictions, then go on to formulate “gotcha” questions. If a person truly wants to know GOD they will truly seek, and truly find Him. YAH Bless

  • @brianmitchell8964

    @brianmitchell8964

    13 күн бұрын

    The answer should be a resounding yes. He contradicts himself by not saying yes. Of course the bible and Christianity is littered with contradictions, errors and falsehoods.. If god commands you to rape your children and set them on fire you do it with a smile .. after all according to Turek if god commands it it has to be good. Which is absolute vile nonsense but does explain a lot of history.

  • @boxywest2963
    @boxywest29637 күн бұрын

    Excellent job combining the 2 videos into a concise explanation.

  • @Sankofa1131
    @Sankofa11319 күн бұрын

    Very, very good channel. Thank you for your effort.

  • @claytondennis8034
    @claytondennis803417 күн бұрын

    Funny thing about trying to debate a person with relative standards... they can move that standard to where they want it to be in the moment. Unfortunately, this seemingly intelligent young man isn't intelligent enough to understand that.

  • @mindsonguard
    @mindsonguard17 күн бұрын

    DDOW!!!! I applaud you, sir! Thank you for including the video of Dr. Heiser and his rundown of the underlying context of these events! You are the first person I have seen on YT who operates in this apologetic space to include this in the discussion on this topic and praise God for that! This is what underpins the logic of the apologetics regarding God's sovereign will over these events! This video has made my day. I pray it is intriguing to others to the point that they seek out further understanding of the supernatural context of scripture. Doing so leads to a deepening of faith that is so great because it completes the meta-narrative of the Bible and provides the logical thread that stretches from beginning to end. Thank you for your hard work and for your integrity in following up on comments!! Bless you, brother! All Glory to Jesus!

  • @WholeBibleBelieverWoman

    @WholeBibleBelieverWoman

    17 күн бұрын

    Rob Skiba talked about this as well -- but he as murdered in 2021.

  • @RemnantDiscipleLazzaro-Rev1217

    @RemnantDiscipleLazzaro-Rev1217

    17 күн бұрын

    It frustrates me so much these days seeing the word "logic" thrown around as though people really are using the word correctly, especially among so called Jesus followers of the only position Jesus commands in John 3:1-21, when if they knew the Scriptures as the true austere Jesus desires us to correctly know them, they would know He called us to be His disciples and to stay away from attempting to Hellenise His Holy Writ which is what moodern Western soceity mostly does which stands in opposition to what Jesus taught about being an Acts 17 Berean .

  • @RemnantDiscipleLazzaro-Rev1217

    @RemnantDiscipleLazzaro-Rev1217

    17 күн бұрын

    @@WholeBibleBelieverWoman You mean by the injection?

  • @WholeBibleBelieverWoman

    @WholeBibleBelieverWoman

    17 күн бұрын

    @@RemnantDiscipleLazzaro-Rev1217 No, he refused the injection. His widow has written a book about his murder. It is entitled THE PROTOCOL THAT KILLS by Sheila Skiba. She never guessed he would be killed, but she kept meticulous records and recordings. She has not found an attorney to sue -- because doctors have immunity. That is how I understand it. It was flat out murder by hospital procedures and DENYING his wife who also had power of attorney to even see him and NOT following anything she said as to what should NOT be done (such as putting him on a ventilator). And No, he did NOT have Covid.

  • @ggpt9641
    @ggpt964115 күн бұрын

    I am glad for both parts of the video and for further aid and context about Cody and Dr. Frank's debate through the teaching of Dr. Heiser (this is my 1st interaction with Dr. Heiser, but I'll look forward to meeting him one day thanks to Jesus).

  • @Spoiler_Alertist

    @Spoiler_Alertist

    2 күн бұрын

    highly suggest you read or listen to his book, The Unseen Realm. so much information in there! he also has a ton of content right here on KZread. you won't regret investigating!

  • @DrHaddix
    @DrHaddix12 күн бұрын

    Really appreciated this video and the questions asked. The answered helped shore up my understanding and beliefs, thank you and GOD Bless.

  • @user-eg4te4kq4f
    @user-eg4te4kq4f16 күн бұрын

    You know you're in real trouble if this is an example of a _good_ response 😬

  • @stevenwiederholt7000
    @stevenwiederholt700017 күн бұрын

    3:20 I've stated using this argument lately. I 1st heard it from Dennis Prager years ago, when he asked callers "Where Do You Get Your Morals?"

  • @absolstoryoffiction6615

    @absolstoryoffiction6615

    15 күн бұрын

    Evil and Good are one. Never be the fool to think Satan is all of Evil. Mortal.

  • @JMObyx

    @JMObyx

    14 күн бұрын

    @@absolstoryoffiction6615 Delusional.

  • @absolstoryoffiction6615

    @absolstoryoffiction6615

    14 күн бұрын

    @@JMObyx Like religions... You agree.

  • @warrenpuckett4203

    @warrenpuckett4203

    13 күн бұрын

    Unfortunately today. You buy them.

  • @graciegj63

    @graciegj63

    13 күн бұрын

    ​@@absolstoryoffiction6615 You're delusional to think that satan isn't laughing at your comment. We are loved by God and satan who hates us and wants to take as many of us with him into the bottomless pit. The pride and jealousy is what made him fall.

  • @georgemonnatjr.172
    @georgemonnatjr.17214 күн бұрын

    Love the Dr. Heiser clips!

  • @alexanderplain3398
    @alexanderplain339817 күн бұрын

    Thanks for your faithfulness and hard work. God bless!

  • @Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom

    @Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom

    17 күн бұрын

    Thanks for the encouragement! All Glory to God!

  • @RemnantDiscipleLazzaro-Rev1217

    @RemnantDiscipleLazzaro-Rev1217

    17 күн бұрын

    @@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom I pray as you grow in your knowledge, that as you learn more how to correctly read and study the Scriptures in the Acts 17 Berean / John 3:1-21 qualified way the authentic austere Jesus the Christ commands, you will look back at your older videos and seek to correct yourself where you now know you were in error. Other than that, i too see your faithfulness seeking the true Lord and hard work that comes with it.

  • @JuiceEternal
    @JuiceEternal17 күн бұрын

    I am so happy to have found your channel, it is a big thing that has helped me find christ again. I believe your channel is where i found out about Dr. Heiser who has totally changed my view of the bible.

  • @Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom

    @Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom

    17 күн бұрын

    Hallelujah!

  • @RemnantDiscipleLazzaro-Rev1217

    @RemnantDiscipleLazzaro-Rev1217

    17 күн бұрын

    Let me share something with you as one who is not a rookied; Dr. Michael Heiser, i've known about him for many years, it is with honour i state this not to disparage him in anyway but due to his lack of well-enough knowledge of factual operational science, he allowed himself to be seduced into the very popular Far Western KZread pagan reading of Genesis regarding the giants, very sad he allowed himself to be seduced into such with all that academic knowledge he had.

  • @DJW2
    @DJW215 күн бұрын

    Would love to see you cover more of Dr. Heiser’s conversations and teachings!

  • @lennadunkums8969
    @lennadunkums896917 күн бұрын

    Excellent video, down to your own notes included towards the end 👌

  • @kevinperry6276
    @kevinperry627617 күн бұрын

    Yo! thanks for engaging Heiser’s material. ‘Unseen Realm’ along with his scholarly work is a lot to work through- but I think you have hit on a huge application of it with relation to the Canaanite conquest. Agree or disagree I think it is warranted to have it on the table as biblically possible ways to address the issue. Nicely done!

  • @RemnantDiscipleLazzaro-Rev1217

    @RemnantDiscipleLazzaro-Rev1217

    17 күн бұрын

    I ask you to consider strongly from us elder long time John 3:1-21 qualified Bible textuaries: Dr. Michael Heiser, i've known about him for many years, it is with honour i state this not to disparage him in anyway but due to his lack of well-enough knowledge of factual operational science, he allowed himself to be seduced into the very popular Far Western KZread pagan reading of Genesis regarding the giants, very sad he allowed himself to be seduced into such with all that academic knowledge he had.

  • @AlexanderBrown77

    @AlexanderBrown77

    16 күн бұрын

    1 Peter 1 KJV 23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. 24 For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away: 25 But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you. 1 Corinthians 15 KJV ✝️🩸 1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: Romans 3 KJV 🩸 25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

  • @jakestrother9032
    @jakestrother903217 күн бұрын

    God Is a just God!! not one of us is without sin, not one!!! We all fall short of the son of God. Every one of us would have been destroyed but by God's grace and mercy!! 🙏❤️🛐🇺🇸✝️🇮🇱🛐❤️🙏

  • @segtha7389

    @segtha7389

    Күн бұрын

    Amen

  • @arclemons1967
    @arclemons19679 күн бұрын

    Solid presentation from some excellent Biblical scholars! 💜✝️💜

  • @hardlytheheadlines
    @hardlytheheadlines16 күн бұрын

    You do great work sir, appreciate what you do!

  • @lmorter7867
    @lmorter786712 күн бұрын

    I agree with Frank. God is the only being that has the authority to give and take life.

  • @mattjohnson9753

    @mattjohnson9753

    9 күн бұрын

    This statement is simply not true. In WW 2 thousands of men had the authority to take life, and it was just.

  • @Postmillhighlights

    @Postmillhighlights

    7 күн бұрын

    A cursory reading of the scriptures would show you that’s not true. Not only were Gods people commanded to take life but so is the state for certain offenses. Romans 13:4 [4] for he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer.

  • @lmorter7867

    @lmorter7867

    7 күн бұрын

    ​@@Postmillhighlights This verse proves my point. God is the righteous Judge, the only one with the right to decide who lives and who dies. A servant of God does God's bidding not their own. The servant is not the judge.

  • @Postmillhighlights

    @Postmillhighlights

    7 күн бұрын

    @@lmorter7867 you said ‘God is the only being that has authority to…take life.’ I demonstrated that wasn’t true. Maybe you weren’t clear in your initial post.

  • @lmorter7867

    @lmorter7867

    7 күн бұрын

    @@Postmillhighlights God has the only authority to give and take life. He gives his servants the authority to take life. They do not have the authority to take another life unless God allows it.

  • @sipoffinewine5798
    @sipoffinewine579816 күн бұрын

    Atheist will usually refuse to argue against anything less than a strawman of God. They willnot face the full character and attributes of God because if they were to allow for the steelman argument that is God they would find atheism lacking.

  • @Lazarusrizing
    @Lazarusrizing14 күн бұрын

    Thank you for this.

  • @danielnevarez788
    @danielnevarez78814 сағат бұрын

    It was a great question that the Dr. tried to avoid and eventually answered in a way that highlights a reason people turn from god in the Bible

  • @humblewatchman1673
    @humblewatchman167317 күн бұрын

    I love Cody so much. So intelligent and earnest in his proclamations, and he’s no more deceived than I was when Christ first found me. I pray his heart softens to Christ.

  • @natalyd9674

    @natalyd9674

    17 күн бұрын

    Exactly. Obstinately proud and ignorant like I was before the Lord opened my eyes. Doing only what was "right" according to me. Thank you, Lord Jesus, for humbling me. 🙏🏾🙏🏾

  • @box4859
    @box485917 күн бұрын

    In the vernacular of the common man, God can do whatever the hell he wants.

  • @wet-read

    @wet-read

    17 күн бұрын

    And all things considered, I think the notion of anything like that is quite thoroughly terrifying and repulsive.

  • @haitaelpastor976

    @haitaelpastor976

    17 күн бұрын

    Just don't try to sell me that God is good.

  • @benclark4823

    @benclark4823

    17 күн бұрын

    Christians: god can do what ever he wants including murder, and genocide. 😂 Also Christians: also god is all-loving and wants what’s best for us. Thats why he kills people including children and infants. 🤣

  • @Tobeesho

    @Tobeesho

    17 күн бұрын

    You too, like the Canaanites, can choose your version of Molec, the Canaanite god. Or, you can choose Jehovah. Call on Him. He "neither sleeps nor slumbers "​@@haitaelpastor976

  • @RemnantDiscipleLazzaro-Rev1217

    @RemnantDiscipleLazzaro-Rev1217

    17 күн бұрын

    👍👍

  • @calvouts
    @calvouts12 күн бұрын

    I learned as a young boy that gave us free will. Its up to us to follow the truth.. The lord!❤

  • @nancyhaugen5210
    @nancyhaugen521012 күн бұрын

    God had and has every right to eliminate people including the whole world if He chose to since we are all sinners, but in His mercy, He made a way from His own horrible death to save us and all who repent and follow Him. Sometimes you need to "cut out" cancer vs chemo. Once you understand the complexity of why, you would understand. God is Love, but He also demands Justice. If someone murdered your family...you would demand justice. Although as a believer we might ask for God's mercy on that person in hope he/she would believe and be saved. Only God knows and His decision is Just for all.

  • @regeneratedzed
    @regeneratedzed17 күн бұрын

    It is so good to hear Michael Heisers view. This was actually revealed to me the moment I read Enoch. I knew immediately why this was commanded. It has always bothered me until then.

  • @bernardclements
    @bernardclements17 күн бұрын

    Amen to that 🙏🙏🙏

  • @jaredclayband
    @jaredclayband11 күн бұрын

    Dr Frank and Dr Michael are/were both gems

  • @Diakonos11
    @Diakonos1113 күн бұрын

    Really enjoy this👍

  • @jtzutube
    @jtzutube17 күн бұрын

    God isn't immoral. He's the basis from which morality exudes. He is eternal, therefore He is eternity, He is existence, Himself.

  • @natalyd9674

    @natalyd9674

    17 күн бұрын

    Thank you. Aseity. Praise the One and Only Almighty God.

  • @ndibunwapeter9013

    @ndibunwapeter9013

    17 күн бұрын

    Finally a sensible human 👍

  • @ShiniGuraiJoker

    @ShiniGuraiJoker

    17 күн бұрын

    Would you sacrifice your family if god came down before you and demanded it? Simple yes or no. This is not a troll it is a test to speak with you further about divinity.

  • @DM-dk7js

    @DM-dk7js

    17 күн бұрын

    Prove it.

  • @shirleybradshaw1288

    @shirleybradshaw1288

    17 күн бұрын

    That's a lie.

  • @bytstervp1
    @bytstervp117 күн бұрын

    Good stuff! People have stopped reading and studying. 😢

  • @aTROLLwithBlades
    @aTROLLwithBlades16 күн бұрын

    I very much enjoy Michael Heiser's material

  • @robertnaga6636
    @robertnaga663617 күн бұрын

    Thank you brother in Christ for the enriching movie... Amen

  • @rubynibs
    @rubynibs17 күн бұрын

    The Lord giveth, and the Lord taketh away. Done. God gives life, and God takes life away.

  • @natalyd9674

    @natalyd9674

    17 күн бұрын

    Period. "But who are you, O man, to answer back to God?" Romans 9:20

  • @alicemoller

    @alicemoller

    16 күн бұрын

    Job said this not God.

  • @kyuss5729

    @kyuss5729

    15 күн бұрын

    only in your imagination

  • @bigdavexx1
    @bigdavexx116 күн бұрын

    The phasing of the question (What would you do?) gives Frank the opportunity to avoid addressing the issue. He answers correctly that he doesn't know how he would react in a high stress situation. That's fair. But the better question would be, what *should* he do if God asks him to kill his child?

  • @TheNationOfTexas

    @TheNationOfTexas

    15 күн бұрын

    In order to have a balanced scientific answer, we'd need to add a few nuances to that question. Abraham had no children when God promised him descendants. His wife was too old to have kids, so this was a miraculous situation. If Frank saw that the existence of his child was undoubtedly the work of an all powerful God, he would probably have enough faith to say, "yes, I'll sacrifice him to you" with much more certainty of faith. I think our faith is understood in direct proportion to the knowledge God has given us. He doesn't leave us to our own devices and request faith based on nothing. Faith is the substance of things hoped for; the evidence of things not seen.

  • @bigdavexx1

    @bigdavexx1

    15 күн бұрын

    @@TheNationOfTexas , I think you're still answering the would question instead of the should question

  • @TheNationOfTexas

    @TheNationOfTexas

    15 күн бұрын

    @@bigdavexx1 I understand what you're saying, and I think we're making similar points. If God is the one giving and taking then you should comply. I'm simply saying that I don't think Turek thought about it in those terms. If Cody had asked "should you sacrifice your child" I believe we would have gotten a different answer.

  • @michaelnash5124
    @michaelnash512412 күн бұрын

    Very concise and helpful

  • @saulsarruff
    @saulsarruff16 күн бұрын

    I’ve met plenty of Codys in my life. The doc gave me a lesson on patience.

  • @trumpbellend6717

    @trumpbellend6717

    16 күн бұрын

    It's a shame someone didn't give up a lesson on morality and logic dear. You sacrifice both your humanity and your reasoning at the alter of Yahweh for the promise of an afterlife. It's a price I'm not willing to pay 🤮

  • @TheCaptain773
    @TheCaptain77317 күн бұрын

    He answered the question but the student is on a moral high horse

  • @wulfheort8021

    @wulfheort8021

    17 күн бұрын

    Frank always takes on a wrong approach with these questions, because the questions come from a misunderstanding of the Old Testament.

  • @robertdouglas8895

    @robertdouglas8895

    15 күн бұрын

    Turek's high horse says that whatever he reads in the Bible is true. The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose. Jesus came to correct the errors of who the Jews thought God was.

  • @robertdouglas8895

    @robertdouglas8895

    15 күн бұрын

    @@wulfheort8021 The misunderstanding is that much of the OT is true when it is false.

  • @wulfheort8021

    @wulfheort8021

    15 күн бұрын

    @@robertdouglas8895 First of all, that sentence makes no sense. And, you just threw out practically all of pre-modern history. Because most of accepted history comes from writings. The Old Testament is not, in its entirety, to be taken in a literal sense to begin with. Accounts such as those in Genesis are metaphorical. Even Christians from the middle ages accepted that.

  • @robertdouglas8895

    @robertdouglas8895

    15 күн бұрын

    @@wulfheort8021 There is symbolism, but what I am referring to is lies. Jesus came to correct the false ideas about God in the Old Testament. Moses said God told him to make it a law that the punishment for adultery was death by stoning. 300 years later Jesus forgave the woman caught in adultery. Fear of God is not a virtue. It's a misunderstanding of who God is. God is love. "There is no fear in love, but perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears punishment has not been perfected in love.

  • @Rem560
    @Rem56017 күн бұрын

    To those who may say why didn't God reveal himself to them. i just have to say this the fact that the Canaanites believed in gods means He revealed himself in some way but they decided to do their own thing.

  • @hydraph4843

    @hydraph4843

    17 күн бұрын

    I don't see how them believing in gods means he was revealed to them in some way

  • @Rem560

    @Rem560

    17 күн бұрын

    @@hydraph4843 you can't see how but we can't assume that He didn't. The Israelites knew the true God but they decided to make a golden cow anyway

  • @hydraph4843

    @hydraph4843

    17 күн бұрын

    @@Rem560 We also can't assume he did. For the Israelites yes this is the case, but for other peoples not so much (at least explicitly said)

  • @RemnantDiscipleLazzaro-Rev1217

    @RemnantDiscipleLazzaro-Rev1217

    17 күн бұрын

    @@Rem560 _you can't see how but we can't assume that He didn't. The Israelites knew the true God but they decided to make a golden cow anyway""_ ...hence why the true austere God _[Jesus]_ repeatedly called Israel a harlot for whoring with the 'gods' _[devils]_ of other nations.

  • @theeternalsbeliever1779

    @theeternalsbeliever1779

    17 күн бұрын

    @@hydraph4843 In Rom. 1, Paul recounts the history of the generations that lived before the Flood and the first few generations of humanity after the Flood up to the time of Nimrod in Gen. 10-11. In Rom. 1:21, Paul says that they _knew_ God, but _chose_ to suppress the truth in unrighteousness in order to worship the creation. This was a _deliberate choice_ that was made on their part to reject what God revealed to them.

  • @wchase10ful
    @wchase10ful7 күн бұрын

    going back to the Abraham discussion I actually just studied this. God told Abraham to sacrifice his son because he wanted Abraham to understand that he would sacrifice Jesus for us. And that Jesus would come through the bloodline of Abraham. But in order for God to make that happen, he has to make sure Abraham understands the importance of this. Which is why the entire incident happened in the first place.

  • @ronaldjerrybeard6811
    @ronaldjerrybeard681111 күн бұрын

    Love, the only solution for every situation!

  • @natalyd9674
    @natalyd967417 күн бұрын

    6:56 Furthermore, the definition of murder is "the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another". The Creator of the Universe is not under any law. This is the fallacy of all atheists: bringing the Almighty God down to their level because they have such disdain for Him. The day is coming very soon that every knee will bow, and every tongue confess that Jesus is LORD. Do it now. You have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

  • @erikstyers4005

    @erikstyers4005

    17 күн бұрын

    So, the Creator is lawless. An amoral Creator by the Christian definition would cease to be God.

  • @natalyd9674

    @natalyd9674

    17 күн бұрын

    @@erikstyers4005 Comprehension is fundamental, my friend. Sovereignty has nothing to do with amorality. There is a big difference between not being bound by law and lawlessness. God sets the rules and is sovereign and has infinite wisdom. Sin is utterly contrary to His righteous character. He cannot sin. Lawlessness is being bound by law like all humanity yet willfully objecting it. Trust me, this is a losing argument for all atheists or anyone who is so prideful enough to challenge the Almighty. (I've tried and failed too.) Bow down and be grateful to the omnipotent, omniscient Lord of All. Pray for understanding.

  • @haitaelpastor976

    @haitaelpastor976

    17 күн бұрын

    So God is esentially a cosmic horror.

  • @hydraph4843

    @hydraph4843

    17 күн бұрын

    Correct then it isn't murder. But, it is killing, and on purpose, and especially brutal. So I don't think it's much better. I don't have disdain for God, I simply am critical of the supposed representation of God that Christians propose, that I don't think is necessarily reflective of God in actuality if God does exist. Also, people have literally predicted end times throughout all of human history. I doubt its coming anytime soon

  • @natalyd9674

    @natalyd9674

    17 күн бұрын

    @@haitaelpastor976 Like I wrote, His character precludes that. He is a loving, righteous, holy God who can only do what is right. He is not the god of confusion, but the God of order. It is integral to search and see for yourself by reading scripture instead of making a non sequitur out of whole cloth.

  • @matsanw
    @matsanw16 күн бұрын

    Just a reminder that asking loaded questions and absurd "yes or no" trick questions is not a good way to ask anyone about complex issues. When you're making a judgement about someone's view and your own contradicts your judgement, you're not being very bright either.

  • @Relatedonthate

    @Relatedonthate

    16 күн бұрын

    Excellent point. Y/N has a definitive connotation when the human perspective/experience is way more complex.

  • @nitsujism

    @nitsujism

    16 күн бұрын

    It wasn't a loaded or trick question. It's a simple question that highlights how absurd Christian morality is.

  • @matsanw

    @matsanw

    16 күн бұрын

    @@nitsujism If your question has accusations behind them (supporting murder) or adopt premises of your own (God is immoral and wants murder), it is a loaded question. If you make an absurd, overly simplistic claim and ask for a "yes or no" answer, knowing it cannot be answered like that without accepting your premises or having their own opinion horribly misrepresented to make them look bad to the public, it is a trick question. If you don't see it, you're either as dishonest or as ignorant as he is.

  • @nitsujism

    @nitsujism

    16 күн бұрын

    @@matsanw Nope. The question has absolutely nothing to do with what I think. It's what you decide to do that is the crux of the matter. And the question is very simple. If god asked you to kill an infant would you do it? He commanded it of the Israelites in the slaughter of the Amelekites. You Christian's keep going on about god's all-loving morality so now this puts it to the test when you're faced with this decision. It's not a trick question or a loaded question. It just reveals the cognitive dissonance you have when it comes down to it. And the answer IS either yes, you would do what god asked of you, or no, you wouldn't. Which is it?

  • @trumpbellend6717

    @trumpbellend6717

    16 күн бұрын

    ​​​@@matsanw // "it is a loaded question" // Lol you do realise that Tureks favourite response when asked a question he does not want to answer is to ask .... _"if Christianity were true would you be a Christian"_ Now "THATS" what you call a _"loaded question"_ dear 😉

  • @otispage4
    @otispage45 күн бұрын

    I love it when they use that story. Knowing they don't finish it.. Issac doesn't die.

  • @nononsensetaken
    @nononsensetaken12 сағат бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this...

  • @joaosoares3395
    @joaosoares339517 күн бұрын

    Heiser is probably the less known, but most knowledgeable Bible scholar.

  • @RemnantDiscipleLazzaro-Rev1217

    @RemnantDiscipleLazzaro-Rev1217

    17 күн бұрын

    Erroneous statement.

  • @zabicvamere
    @zabicvamere17 күн бұрын

    They didnt slaughter in the name of athiesm...their actions reflected their world view which was athiesm.

  • @Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom

    @Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom

    17 күн бұрын

    Exactly

  • @markh1011

    @markh1011

    17 күн бұрын

    I'm an atheist. I don't have a worldview where slaughter is ok. What on earth are you talking about?

  • @zabicvamere

    @zabicvamere

    17 күн бұрын

    @@markh1011 learn what a world view means when you put it into practice. Devoid of emotion and you will see.

  • @Bilbo383

    @Bilbo383

    17 күн бұрын

    True or false, can a worldview of a god lead to a mass murder? It's not just being devoid of this belief that leads to mass murder

  • @DM-dk7js

    @DM-dk7js

    17 күн бұрын

    @@zabicvamere learn what atheism means before you call it a worldview lol. It’s the lack of a view, as we don’t posit supernatural answers to the question of why life exists-we are actually honest in saying we don’t know, rather.

  • @salmonkill7
    @salmonkill715 күн бұрын

    I have great hope for Cody, he's wrestling with the BIG QUESTIONS and I'm sure he will find his way to GOD and Jesus Christ!!

  • @feeble_stirrings
    @feeble_stirrings16 күн бұрын

    If you appreciate Heiser's perspective, I highly recommend the podcast "The Lord of Spirits" which has a very similar vibe, looking at these things from an Orthodox Christian perspective and digging into both the Scriptures and the writings of the early Church fathers on these and other matters.

  • @garrisonturner5670
    @garrisonturner567016 күн бұрын

    The claim that atheism allows genocide is false. This implies a dichotomy of, ‘if God doesn’t exist, there is no moral basis,’ but this implies God is the only way to have morality. This is false. Generations of philosophers have worked to show such.

  • @Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom

    @Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom

    16 күн бұрын

    If there is no God everything is permissible.

  • @christopheespic

    @christopheespic

    16 күн бұрын

    ​@@Daily_Dose_Of_WisdomDon't you think you will be judged if you kill someone? Buddhists have no morals?

  • @trumpbellend6717

    @trumpbellend6717

    16 күн бұрын

    ​@@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom You present the false dichotomy that without YOUR SPECIFIC SUBJECTIVE GOD there can be no moral reference standard and all things somehow become permissable ( shakes head in disgust 🤬 ) this is not only false its *DEMONSTRABLY FALSE* Can you name me some countries or societies that regard murder, "grape", theft, as moral and legal actions ??? No of course not, but why ? for according to your reasoning those societies that do not adhere to YOUR GODS moral dictates ( other religions, and the atheistic, secular ect ) should be examples of depravity and lawlessness, yet this is plainly NOT the case and It would be a demonstration of hubris to assert otherwise. You do know that there have been many studies to assess the religiosity of societies in comparison with their number of murders, "grapes", abortions, D use, single parents, even wealth and health don't you ? 🤔 America dispite being one of the most christian countries in the world has the HIGHEST prison population rate per capita anywhere in the world 🤔🤔🤔 It also has amongst the worst results in many of the above categories. Yet those we regard as the most atheistic secular ( the Scandinavian, Sweden ect) score much much better and are amongst the best in those same categories. Hmmm.🤔🤔🤔 For example one of many ........ *"Cross-National Correlations of Quantifiable Societal Health with Popular Religiosity and Secularism in the Prosperous Democracies"*

  • @nitsujism

    @nitsujism

    16 күн бұрын

    @@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom So the only thing stopping you from murdering and raping is your belief in god?

  • @mattsuttoni4003

    @mattsuttoni4003

    16 күн бұрын

    @garrisonturner5670 correct

  • @hasone1848
    @hasone184817 күн бұрын

    Remember Jesus didn't die for your sins, he traded places for your sins😂

  • @haitaelpastor976

    @haitaelpastor976

    17 күн бұрын

    That makes such a a sacrifice even more pointless.

  • @JD-yn5zl

    @JD-yn5zl

    17 күн бұрын

    Is it funny the amount of pain he experienced. Being whipped 1-2 strokes from death. Hanging naked on a cross by His hands and feet struggling for each breath. Taking the weight of our sin and filth upon Him as only God could do. He did all of that and more so that you could spend eternity with Him in Paradise

  • @tetsuyohasakirashishiwakam2218

    @tetsuyohasakirashishiwakam2218

    17 күн бұрын

    If god is all powerful than he wouldn't need to do any sacrifices.

  • @JD-yn5zl

    @JD-yn5zl

    17 күн бұрын

    Without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sin

  • @haitaelpastor976

    @haitaelpastor976

    17 күн бұрын

    @@JD-yn5zl That is one hell of a torture. But countless mortal humans have had it worse. MUCH worse. That means we've already paid for everything, with interest.

  • @TheHolyMarksman14
    @TheHolyMarksman1417 күн бұрын

    Dr Heiser and his work on the supernatural aspect of the Bible have opened up my eyes to truly understanding the big picture So grateful that The Lord allowed me to find his work we need more of his videos and books in churches we think we understand the supernatural aspects of The Bible but we don’t even know trust me his Unseen Realm book and Supernatural book helped me so much very highly recommended for anyone that wants to dive deeper into the text and build your foundation even stronger

  • @jaflenbond7854

    @jaflenbond7854

    17 күн бұрын

    All HUMAN BEINGS are FREE to DECIDE and CHOOSE what they WANT - LIES, DECEITS, and FALSE TEACHINGS of ATHEISTS and RELIGIONS OR HONOR and ETERNAL LIFE and EXISTENCE on EARTH The LIE and false claim of Atheists that the Creator doesn't exist and even if existing is still unworthy and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD and the LIES and false teachings of the Pastors and Leaders of Religions about "hellfire", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "rapture", and "reincarnation" will definitely bring nothing but dishonor, disgrace, shame and cause the downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS of Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, fanatics of all kinds of Religions, and Atheists. The teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" written in Luke 4: 43 will definitely bring honor and the Creator's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 to lowly, ordinary, kind, and respectful persons on earth who willingly submit to the authority of Jesus Christ in their obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18. The teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead" written in John 11: 25, 26 guarantees that loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the Creator's right and proper time so they can live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.

  • @circle4962
    @circle496217 күн бұрын

    I love hearing others enjoy Heiser's content! God working through him changed my life by bestowing upon me an awareness of my son of God status since Jesus lives in me. This status changes how I see life and the powerful spiritual "powers"

  • @kevinderochie6990
    @kevinderochie699017 күн бұрын

    “Murder your family or not to show your faith to God” is not a simple yes/no question. “Do you want pizza for dinner” is a simple yes/no question.

  • @erkziltonz

    @erkziltonz

    17 күн бұрын

    It is though, I'd say no. I love my family.

  • @spacemoose4726

    @spacemoose4726

    17 күн бұрын

    It is a simple yes or no question. The problem is it's not a simple answer for Christians. It's pretty revealing about a person's character if they wouldn't easily say no.

  • @tetsuyohasakirashishiwakam2218

    @tetsuyohasakirashishiwakam2218

    17 күн бұрын

    Yeah anyone who actually needs to think about what they would do, how they would respond in that situation is already a lost cause in my opinion. Way to far down the rabbit hole. Brain washed to the extreme.

  • @randlebrowne2048

    @randlebrowne2048

    17 күн бұрын

    For those who read the example of Abraham (and the fact that God stopped the sacrifice) we know that it's not something that God *would* ask of us. We have the advantage of thousands of years of scripture to learn about God's nature. Those actually *in* the Bible had very little to go by and had to basically learn about His nature by (often painful and confusing) experience.

  • @nitsujism
    @nitsujism17 күн бұрын

    Theists: "God can kill infants and babies and it's not evil" Also theists: "God is all loving and the highest moral standard"

  • @jaflenbond7854

    @jaflenbond7854

    17 күн бұрын

    ATHEISM and RELIGIONS bring the HUMILIATIONS, SUFFERINGS, GRIEFS, and DEATHS of MANKIND The lives, dignities, and existence of human beings are clearly of no worth, value, and importance to Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions who are obviously unbothered and just don't care even if their arrogance, ungratefulness, cruelties, hypocrisies, treacheries, deceits, lies, and false teachings and doctrines about "hellfire", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "rapture", and "reincarnation" hurt, offend, insult, humiliate, and degrade the lives and dignities of all human beings including that of their own families and neighbors and cause their humiliations, degradations, sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS. The CREATOR and JESUS CHRIST bring HONOR and ETERNAL LIFE and EXISTENCE on EARTH to HUMAN BEINGS The teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" written in Luke 4: 43 will definitely bring honor and the Creator's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 to lowly, ordinary, kind, and respectful persons on earth who willingly submit to the authority of Jesus Christ in their obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18 and the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead" written in John 11: 25, 26 guarantees that loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the Creator's right and proper time so they can live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.

  • @Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom

    @Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom

    17 күн бұрын

    Did you watch the video?

  • @nitsujism

    @nitsujism

    17 күн бұрын

    ​​@@Daily_Dose_Of_WisdomYes. Turek evaded the question and fell back to ridiculous notions like there's no problem with genocide if atheism is true. Also, if god can do whatever he wants then the best you can get from him is amoral. You don't get all loving or a moral standard.

  • @DM-dk7js

    @DM-dk7js

    17 күн бұрын

    @@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom it’s NEVER the W you think it is bro. How absurd you made a video recently lying as if you’re even remotely skeptical, or EVER were.

  • @betolicks4071

    @betolicks4071

    15 күн бұрын

    This bloke never read jobs and it shows

  • @rebeccajohnson4232
    @rebeccajohnson42328 күн бұрын

    You think that’s air your breathing? It’s the grace of God that your heart takes another beat!

  • @dlcarbonneau3750
    @dlcarbonneau375015 күн бұрын

    great video, thanks

  • @kf7bws
    @kf7bws17 күн бұрын

    If there is a God, which I believe there is, He created all things therefore owns all things and can do as He likes with His creation. The old testament was a direction pointer toward Christ and in Christ, Grace, salvation for one's' soul. The old testament was to establish a basis for good and evil, right and wrong, righteousness and unrighteousness ergo the ten commandments. The ten commandments is the basis for all moral societies. The ten commandments is not the basis for atheism. Atheism has no foundation. Atheism is inherently evil hence the 80,000,000+ deaths (murders) due to communism. God will always judge evil sometimes He does it Himself as in Sodom and Gomorrah or other times people as in allies in WWII against the N A Z I S or the people of Israel against the Canaanites. The fear (respect and honor) of God is the beginning of wisdom. God is a rewarder of those that diligently seek Him.

  • @Reloading20

    @Reloading20

    17 күн бұрын

    Imagine applying that same logic to your own children

  • @Sacrosanctity451

    @Sacrosanctity451

    17 күн бұрын

    ​@@Reloading20That's false equivalency.

  • @taemien9219

    @taemien9219

    17 күн бұрын

    People claim religion is dangerous. Yet the sum all the murders committed by Jews, Christians, and Muslims over the last several thousand years is a fraction of the murders committed by a dozen athiests in just the 20th Century.

  • @Reloading20

    @Reloading20

    17 күн бұрын

    @@Sacrosanctity451 wrong

  • @hydraph4843

    @hydraph4843

    17 күн бұрын

    "He created all things therefore owns all things and can do as He likes with His creation. ". Sure, but that doesn't mean God is in the right. If I am a dog owner, I technically own that dog but I still have responsibilities to look after the dog, because it's just abusive to literally do whatever you want without anny care for the actual wellbeing of your property. "The ten commandments is the basis for all moral societies. ". You mean Christian societies. All other societies don't. Though i would doubt it results in moral socities, considering the atrocities Christian societies have committed, like genocides, oppression of minorities, slavery, colonialism. I'm not saying Christian societies cannot do good. For example, they also played a pivotal role in eliminating slavery. But that doesn't eradicate the bad. You cannot just have it your way and only look at the good. Every society does some good, and some bad. "Atheism has no foundation. Atheism is inherently evil hence the 80,000,000+ deaths (murders) due to communism. ". I think you are forgetting that atheism isn't a religion or ideology really. It is simply a form of belief (or rather, lack thereof). So you saying atheists and communists is like me saying muslims are the same as Christians because they both believe in monotheism. They're different religions, just with the same belief in one god. Not all atheists are communists. I'd guess most aren't. I aren't for example. I like democracy a lot. And I argue against all forms of authoritarianism. Also, you are being selective. Most European wars in history, and atrocities by Europeans, have been done by Christians. As a final note, keep in mind that there are more people in the modern day, so obviously casualties will be higher. But the proportion of deaths relative to the overall population could be the same or greater in the past, so it's not all that simple

  • @ClaudioIbarra
    @ClaudioIbarra17 күн бұрын

    "There's nothing wrong with genocide if atheism's true" It's hard to believe any human adult actually believes that. If God kills children, it's the moral thing to do? And someone who believes that has the audacity to call anyone else a moral relativist? At least there's not a shred of evidence any of these stories are true.

  • @None-if3mo

    @None-if3mo

    17 күн бұрын

    Well he is using atheism logic here. Why do you say it's wrong to kill people if atheism is true?

  • @None-if3mo

    @None-if3mo

    17 күн бұрын

    If God kills children it is his authority, afterall according to Christianity Death just means changing Place.

  • @None-if3mo

    @None-if3mo

    17 күн бұрын

    The fact that you don't understand Frank Turek points here just goes to show that you are an ignorant. It's obvious Frank Turek tries to display how much flawed Atheism is, if Atheism is true then moral is relative, that doesn't mean Frank actually believes in moral relativism, he makes a statement which reflect Atheism worldview. Now tell me why is it wrong to do genocide according to Atheism worldview? Because according to atheists we have no purpose, and all of us will die anyway

  • @CerebralBadger

    @CerebralBadger

    17 күн бұрын

    If you're a materialist atheist who believes we come from the primordial soup and became human through evolution, then you really have no moral claim over anything. Slavery, genocide, rape, or murder can all be seen as the expression of "Survival of the Fittest". There is nothing wrong, then, with culling the weak and propagating the fit. "But it's not good for society!" Based on what standard? "Progress!" Again, based on what standard? I'm assuming it's based on how you and your buddies feel clutching each other's pearls, wagging your finger at GOD. P.S. there's plenty of archeological evidence for what happened in the Bible. For example, they recently found Soddom and Gomorrah glassed.

  • @ClaudioIbarra

    @ClaudioIbarra

    17 күн бұрын

    @@None-if3mo That's what amorality looks like. No act, no matter how abhorrent, is off limits, as long as someone says it's what their god wants. That's the definition of moral relitivism. It doesn't get better if the claim is that the same god is somehow the arbiter of morality. It's disgusting.

  • @user-mr6fs7et8c
    @user-mr6fs7et8c12 күн бұрын

    Praise the Lord! And, thank you for what you do! Greatest event of my life was being Born Again in 1985. I was like the Christmas Carol Ebenezer Scrooge literally!

  • @DanzigDevilock
    @DanzigDevilock14 күн бұрын

    Hooray for Dr Heiser….when I fist started reading his work it was definitely different perspectives than what I grew up with….but after more studying Dr Michaels Heiser world view is the same world view the Apostles held, the 2nd temple Judaism held (Judaism during the time of Jesus)

  • @XOPOIIIO
    @XOPOIIIO15 күн бұрын

    Saying that atheism does not forbid genocide is like saying that plumbing does not forbid genocide. It just has nothing to do with those questions.

  • @hilbert551

    @hilbert551

    14 күн бұрын

    Aetheism denies God exists thus man is not created by Him but rather he has evolved by natural selection. This evolution does not bring forth right or wrong, love and hate, morals, ethics etc. These things of the heart and soul are given to man by God.

  • @XOPOIIIO

    @XOPOIIIO

    14 күн бұрын

    @@hilbert551 Evolution does bring forth right and wrong. Ethics is important for people groups to survive. People with weak moral values are more likely to be overwhelmed by more disciplined enemies. That's how natural selection works, it sorts out bad values and replace them with good values, because they are more beneficial to survival.

  • @hilbert551

    @hilbert551

    14 күн бұрын

    @@XOPOIIIO sure, that explains many upstanding coyotes and righteous frogs. Don't forget the honest snakes too. Years of evolution...

  • @XOPOIIIO

    @XOPOIIIO

    14 күн бұрын

    ​@@hilbert551 The fact that a species have a particular evolutionary adaptation doesn't imply that all species should have exactly the same adaptation, because all species have different paths. You need higher cognitive activity to absorb and maintain moral values, not all species possess them. What do you have to say against the fact that ethics are beneficial to humans and help them to survive?