Creed: B Williams: C- Deegan: F

@thatracingshow

7 күн бұрын

To the point report card for mid terms. I like it. Now we'll see what the rest of the year brings for a final grade!

Her fans are KZread fans not race fans so why do you care? She simply does not belong in a NASCAR ride.

@ming454

7 күн бұрын

I think she belongs in NASCAR, but as a mid-pack driver in Trucks

@thatracingshow

7 күн бұрын

Her fan base is online, at the track, you name it and is compiled of men and women both young and old. She really does have a strong loyal following.

@NeedsLessWedge

5 күн бұрын

@@thatracingshow the question is, why are they following her? Because she is winner? Or a content creator?

@stubby2822

3 күн бұрын

@@NeedsLessWedge Because they like her.

A second place showing today, losing to Bell, was another solid performance for Creed.

@thatracingshow

6 күн бұрын

He's a clean racer and I can respect that. He has that first win coming. I was cheering him on this weekend at the finish hoping he was going to bring it home!

7 & 7 is my favorite. :) Thanks for another great episode!

@thatracingshow

Күн бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting!

I don't blame you for being careful what you say about Deegan but just showing the stats may upset some. Best I move on from that and say I'd like to see Creed win soon. Thanks for the stat update.

@thatracingshow

8 күн бұрын

It's a touchy subject that's for sure! I genuinely think she has a ton of ability. She drives the hell out of all kinds of race cars and honestly to me, doesn't have to prove anything. If she was in a JGR or RCR car I'd probably feel different but she's doing her thing and is a great inspiration for many females and that's cool by itself to me. As for Sheldon I feel the same. The wins are so close, and I have no doubt he can get it done!

@driverslqqk7940

8 күн бұрын

Although a far different story of one of the most successful drivers Mark Martin who I think you will agree but never won a championship but was the superior driver in his racing career sometimes it's more about winning than losing and it isn't always winning that makes the champion a champion he's a Hall of Famer😊

@thatracingshow

8 күн бұрын

Man I could tell you stories of when Mark had his shop at Charlotte Motor Speedway when I was a kid in the early 80's. My dad worked for the speedway and my Mom for NASCAR driver Dick May which her office was beside The Apollo and DK Ulrich's shop on the same corner. Good memories!

No, Deegan is not a good driver. I understand you're trying to take as little flak as possible, but she's pretty awful as a driver.

@thatracingshow

8 күн бұрын

I wouldn't say she is a bad driver as she can wheel everything from a micro sprint on dirt to a 3200 lb car on asphalt. With that said, I'm not sure NASCAR is where she should be focused on. Obviously this is where most drivers want to be but I'd like to see her open her options to run full-time in another series where she could compete for wins. Unfortunately for her I think any series she would run would come with high expectations.

@douglascooper4973

8 күн бұрын

GOOD drivers win period! She’s not good, she won on a shirt track in arca where she dumped her own teammate on the last lap,,,,,wow anyone can do that! It’s very simple,,,,WIN or at least compete for a good finish and all the critics will shut up! Just because your last name is deegan doesn’t make her fast. She consistently runs in the back and only advances when attrition or wrecks take out her competition.

@sergeantmasson3669

7 күн бұрын

@@thatracingshow "Failie" Deegan is a dud in all motorsports racing, not just NASCAR. The stats/facts don't lie, but her SIMPS damn sure do.

@NeedsLessWedge

6 күн бұрын

Kurt Busch was on the outs, black listed by NASCAR, came back and was kicking tail in the 51 in cup, even with a broken track bar at Sonoma. Kurt Busch was great. Deegan is not Busch-like Or harvick-like Or even Ricky spinhouse-like Put her in JGR. You might see a flash in the pan..who knows

@sergeantmasson3669

6 күн бұрын

@@NeedsLessWedge "Failie" Deegan is a dud in all motorsports racing, not just NASCAR. The stats/facts don't lie, but her SIMPS damn sure do, though.

"Failie" Deegan got worse than she was in the trucks series.

@thatracingshow

6 күн бұрын

The consistency this weekend to what I detailed in this piece is almost ironic. 2nd place for Sheldon, 23rd for Williams and 32nd for Deegan. That puts her at 30th or worse in half the races this year. 2024 in this ride is definitely doing her career no favors.

@stubby2822

3 күн бұрын

We call him private pepper. He has been commenting bad things about her even when she was only 17. Rumor has it he is a member of the NASCAR HOF, NHRA HOF, VEEEETA HOF and the PEEEETA HOF. I think but can't confirm he is a million dollar a year advisor to 20 NASCAR cup teams.

How good is Deegans team? Compared to last years driver the team itself doesn’t seem that good.

@thatracingshow

7 күн бұрын

The team is obviously not a top tier team like JGR, RCR, JRM or even Kaulig in Xfinity so it's hard to really assess the stats of Hailie against a large portion of the field.

@NeedsLessWedge

6 күн бұрын

She is in a crap org now. But also was in truck series riding in decent rides and seemed to always get caught up in mayhem.. she should have been sponsored by all State

Hailie has one of the strongest fan bases of any driver in Nascar. I guess you can only be as good as the car and team provided, but Hailie was in a top truck ride last year and we all know how that turned out. I honestly think she should have stayed in ARCA one more year. Her only saving grace is if RFK starts an Xfinity program in 2025 and hires Hailie, the talent is there, she just needs to be with a better team. Hailie has to be careful, there are a few female racers coming up through the ranks that could surpass her in the next few years, one that stands out is the 2023 Xtreme Outlaw Midget Champion Jade Avedisian, her stats from racing quarter midgets, micro's, and midget's is very impressive. She's fully funded right now by Toyota and she has some quality sponsors on board and seemed to be in it for the long haul. Lots of people associated with Nascar have spoken highly about Jade and lots of Nascar teams are keeping a close eye on her progress in the Toyota GR Cup Series. She's supposed to make her ARCA debut on August 18, 2024 at the Illinois State Fairgrounds dirt track driving for Venturini Motorsports.....

@thatracingshow

3 күн бұрын

Venturini is a great ride that supports female drivers! I think that is a testament to the all female pit crew he had. I crewed for Bill in the early 90's and those ladies would still show up at certain races years after that deal. I believe Hailie has not been in the right circumstances yet even though she did have a solid truck ride. The pressure to perform has got to be extreme on her. She has ability, I just hope the resources don't dry up for her before it ends her NASCAR opportunities. I'd like to see her step back to a lower series and use her sponsor money to grab 4 or 5 races with JGR and then it would be safe to say whether she can make it in NASCAR or if other series would suit her better.

Sheldon needs that win.

@thatracingshow

8 күн бұрын

I agree. Without a win this year it's going to raise questions with the equipment he's been in of why he can't finish it out with a win.

@dmurphy1578

8 күн бұрын

@@thatracingshow look at that interaction. Grow this channel.

@thatracingshow

8 күн бұрын

@@dmurphy1578 I'm trying lol. Every little like, share and comment helps. I'm not a KZreadr so every day is another learning experience for me. I just like to talk racing so in the end that's what it's all about for me.

@markmathews5117

8 күн бұрын

@@thatracingshow Keep up the good work!

@thatracingshow

8 күн бұрын

Thanks man. I have fun and that's what it's all about to me. Because trust me my pay off doing this is shit. It honestly takes me about 6 - 8 hrs average on an episode and I enjoy it. A lot of work to write, set up, host, edit, create a thumbnail and wait for it to upload for one guy 😀 but I love it! So that's why I'm here, to talk racing. So thanks for talking it with me!

I think Halie is a great Dirt Driver ..

@thatracingshow

3 күн бұрын

She has the ability. I know for most it's easy to say she doesn't but I'd like to see what she could do in a solid Xfinity ride. At least for a few races. People said the same things about Jeffrey Earnhardt until he did his stints with RCR and JGR. In my opinion she should step back a year. Run ARCA, CARS Tour or something along those lines and use her sponsor money to buy 5 or 6 races in a JGR car. If she turns heads in those races she can rebound her future. If not then maybe accept NASCAR isn't the right fit and go run dirt across the country and have fun.

I am a fan of Hailie Deegan. Your reluctance and avoidance of controversy about her are funny and well taken. Your take on most things is honest and logical. And that is appreciated. But. 30th or worse? How many was a direct cause by her? Dover is the only one I can point to. 1. Daytona. Pushed into a wreck. 2. Pheonix. Ditto and told to drive back to the pits under a red flag. Thats an auto DQ DNF. 3. Richmond. Lost all electrical power. 4. Darlington. Another car cut her left rear down. 5 and 6. Portland and Sanoma. Electrical problems again. Also 8. N-H. The 21 dive bombed and made it 4 wide and she got bumped and hit the outside car. Brake problems at COTA. Fuel strategy at Atlanta, Vegas and Charlotte cost her better finishes. So how many times this year has she caused a wreck or lost control on her own and wrecked. 1 maybe at Dover. So, stats do lie if you blame everything solely on the driver. Also. How old is Moffit and how much more experience does he have on her. Her fans are loyal because they like her. Now look through all the comments and see who are truly NASCAR fans. I believe a true NASCAR fan loves a good race. They hope their favorite driver wins but congratulates someone else if they do. They don't hate any other driver or wish ill will toward them. Most of the hate comments are not fans but someone begging for attention. If someone likes my comment, there is a button to hit. If ankle biters respond. They are looking for attention.

@thatracingshow

19 сағат бұрын

I agree, there are so many details to a 30th or worse finish and for most they don't consider circumstances. I just tried to collectively break down the stats for all the drivers included in this equally and not around individual circumstances for times sake. One thing I know is people who hate will still hate even if a driver does good. If Hailie was to win on a superspeedway this year people would say anyone can win on a superspeedway, so I get what you are saying. Unfortunately in today's world, controversy attracts people. They love it. Probably holds my show back since I try my best not to bash drivers like a lot of others on here do. I respect them, I see them around town, on sets and at the track. I see them as people doing a job they love and trying to be the best at it. So I can't hate on someone for that. Thanks for your comment! I like good race chatter like this!

@stubby2822

14 сағат бұрын

@@thatracingshow Thanks for the reply. Your logical and honest take on racing is refreshing. I don't hate anyone in this world. Some I don't like but never hate. I have been a NASCAR fan for over 50 years. Hailie is my favorite driver now. Her personality and grit got me interested again. NASCAR needs more fans. Not haters.

@thatracingshow

10 сағат бұрын

@@stubby2822 I agree with that as well. I know a lot of older fans don't like the new NASCAR and I can understand that on certain levels. With that said, being at the track, in the garage etc. it's still the same feel. A lot more technical obviously, younger drivers and many changes but it's still that same vibe. Hailie is an inspiration for many young women and young racers, and I know she wants to perform to keep the inspiration going. She has talent. She could kick 3/4's or more of the Xfinity driver's ass on dirt. I just think it's been misguided so far in her NASCAR career.

The last time I saw a Mullet at that level the guy was pump jocky drivin a 79 Camaro rockin the straight six

@thatracingshow

8 күн бұрын

JW is definitely his own identity that doesn't care about the poster boy look and I dig that lol. Why I'm ready to see him start winning and those wild victory lane celebrations to get real 😄

@stevereed8786

8 күн бұрын

@@thatracingshow Well said.

Deegan I don’t think is focused enough. I think she needs total dedication like Nico Rosenberg did in F1.

@thatracingshow

7 күн бұрын

I believe it's a combination of things. I would have liked to of seen her run full seasons in some other series before she made the move to NASCAR. It's unfortunate to so many of these kids these days that they just get pushed along so fast and have expectations pushed on them as well. I think that's where they lose so much focus because suddenly it's not all about racing anymore. Now it's publicity, commercials, photo shoots, appearances then on the weekend, oh yeah you need to race as well. With Hailie being a bright, bubbly personality I'm sure her schedule is crazy.

Good video. I’ve competed and coached in elite sport and I think it’s completely fair to critique athletes as long as it doesn’t move into the personal. It’s not hating. I also think a results sheet does not always tell the full story, particularly in motorsport where equipment is king. My report card Sheldon Creed B + needs a win as he’s in very good equipment. Deegan C- a little hard to tell how bad the car is and her performance. Her speed on road courses has been very poor (3/4 seconds a lap slower than SVG at COTA) and perhaps not aggressive enough on the super speedway’s where the playing field is level. Josh C+ getting better as the year has progressed and is doing well in road courses. Would have finished top 10 at Sonoma if no crash. SVG A What more could you seriously expect considering his experience and Kaulig are not the best car out there. The comparison to Hemric was interesting. How many years has he been in the game?

@thatracingshow

7 күн бұрын

Good analysis, so thanks for your input. One of the reasons I like to include former or current drivers in the same equipment to evaluate. Certainly a lot of factors that go into each individual season that attribute to stats but collectively with 15 races in it gave a progress report or lack of based off finishes. Hemric has been at it for years with Cup and Xfinity. There are so many aspects that could go into an episode like this it could easily be an hour long piece.

@Gravy123-kp5ou

7 күн бұрын

@@thatracingshowin regard to HD I wonder how much her run of crashes (irrespective of fault) in the first part of the season is now impacting on the teams ability to unload a fast car each week. By that I mean AM racing has a smaller budget and does the costly repairs effect the teams ability to develop the car.

One driver I believe you slightly disrespected was Shane you forgot to mention in his first ever NASCAR start he won Chicago never been in the next gym car until that race so maybe cut him some slack when kind of ratted on him I don't know what basis to have for that but and maybe you should put in there DNF I know that's a statistic that all people look at in racing all racing they're always tell how many races that didn't finish as far as the others they're so close you're trying to compare apples to oranges it doesn't work wait until the end of the season I know you got to put out videos for substance and following and that so you got to come up with something but I don't know I don't care those facts that you gave about those other drivers doesn't mean much now it's not telling in any way of how they're going to perform the next half of the season so it's all for not😂

@thatracingshow

8 күн бұрын

Well first of all, I didn't put SVG down. In fact I've caught hell for talking of his talent in other episodes. For this episode I was just comparing Xfinity stats and with the stats I listed it made him look good compared to the 3 drivers I was focused on. I dig SVG. As far as content, this was something I had planned to do since the Time To Shine episode last year. Why it was titled Report Card, a follow up. Look I'm just happy you didn't bring up Hailie so it's all good 😆

Hailie "is a great driver" ? She's in last place among full-time drivers.

@thatracingshow

6 күн бұрын

I don't doubt her ability, just not sure NASCAR is where it should be applied. It's not working.

@Professor-IC

6 күн бұрын

​@@thatracingshow Hailie said she was given the opportunity to race in NASCAR trucks, she didn't earn it. ARCA is probably best suited for her level as a race driver.

Deegan needs to be replaced. She's not good at all. Danica 2.0

@thatracingshow

8 күн бұрын

I think she has ability. I don't think she will ever live up to people's expectations but as far as a driver I think she has talent. It just might not be for NASCAR. She gets behind the wheel of so many things outside of NASCAR and continues to learn as she wheels it so I can't hate on her. With that said, I do think this year will be a big determining factor of her future.

@sergeantmasson3669

7 күн бұрын

@ojtoothpaste2240, Danica Patrick became the most successful female racecar driver in typical auto racing history. "Failie" Deegan is lucky to even finish a race.

@NeedsLessWedge

6 күн бұрын

@thatracingshow she could be disciplined in one form like Xfinity before "getting behind the wheel" of something else. She was a bigger fish in a smaller pond in arca series races. Now that she's in a big pond with competitive teams and equal talent, it falls back to discipline and being a keeper to hone talents. She may have came in a sharp blade, but she isn't cutting up the competition, and appears dull or used as a hammer or a screwdriver She was riding the monster sponsorship wave but that has dried up