9gag brought me here. Not disappointed.

@DigItWithRaven

3 жыл бұрын

Ahh so happy! Thanks for checking out my videos

@shanguaih8548

3 жыл бұрын

9gag also brought me here!

@Gengy28

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, me too. Thanks solsburyhill

@asht7815

3 жыл бұрын

Me too, you have a great friend!

@Shadex2301

3 жыл бұрын

Greetings fellow users

I am here due to 9gag, your friend recommended it . Cool work ,keep it up.

@DigItWithRaven

3 жыл бұрын

My friend has definitely moved up the rung for this 😅. Cannot believe the surprise and support from 9gag today- love it!

9gag brought me here. Is a cool vid. Gonna see more. Thanks.

@DigItWithRaven

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching 😊

Here from 9gag. Some friend of yours called Rhiannon sent us. Have my sub. Keep up the good stuff.

@Rittikgarg

3 жыл бұрын

Bhai bhai bhai me bhi

@loly6660

3 жыл бұрын

same

@DigItWithRaven

3 жыл бұрын

So many new people from 9gag- I love it! Welcome and thanks for the support 😊

I'd love to see an "archaeologists react" to The Creature From the Black Lagoon. There's a lot of on-screen excavation, debates about technique and priorities, etc. It's an interesting fictional time capsule

just came from 9gag from this person called solsburyhill reccomending ur channel, just started watching but sounds really interesting.

@DigItWithRaven

3 жыл бұрын

Wow, amazing! Loving all the new 9gag people on here. Thanks for watching 😊

I was very confused for a second when i thought you said "the story of Atlantis begins with Play-Doh" LMAO (but then i looked up at my screen and saw Plato and i was like "oohhhh im dumb") ETA; great content as always! :)

@DigItWithRaven

3 жыл бұрын

From the comments on this video, I'm realizing now that I need to work on the pronunciation of my 'T's 😅. My old Torontonian ways are creeping up to bite me

@lisavdberg

3 жыл бұрын

@@DigItWithRaven nonono! it gave me a good hearted belly laugh (those are rare lately), if i was looking at my screen at the time i wouldve realised lol

@markkeller6635

3 жыл бұрын

I knew you were talking about Plato but I have to admit the thought of Play-doh immediately came to mind and brought back childhood memories of its texture and the way it smelled.

@shaolin1derpalm

2 жыл бұрын

@@DigItWithRaven Ontario represent. If your from the Dot (or near there) it's Tronno.

As a representative of the Elders of Lost Atlantis, I thank you for your help in spreading the idea that Atlantis was only a myth. The world isn't ready for our forbidden knowledge. An Amazon gift card is in the mail.

@DigItWithRaven

3 жыл бұрын

Haha that's how we keep it tax free 😅😉

@Das1

10 ай бұрын

​@@DigItWithRavenWhat are your comments on the Eye of Sahara-Atlantis Hypothesis

Great video. As an anthropology graduate, I'm so happy I found this channel via the India collaboration. It makes a lot of sense why Plato would set Atlantis in the middle of the Atlantic. Those waters were entirely unexplored. Sailors were still hugging the coasts for the most part, as the age of exploration would not dawn for nearly 2000 years. For Plato's audience, the Atlantic ocean was the ultimate mysterious unknown, a boundless, borderless, endless fog of dreams and nightmares alike, the perfect setting for a grand and moralistic tale of the ancient forgotten past. Many such tales set beyond the fringes of the known world have been conceived by just about every civilization in history. Even today, we dream about wars between exotic alien civilizations in distant galaxies as parables of our own petty squabbles. We must not forget that the people of yesterday were not so different from the people of today.

"To find Atlantis just open up some Plato" Me: goes into kids room retrieves old jar of Play doh. is disappointed at no Atlantis inside

@DigItWithRaven

3 жыл бұрын

😂 your children must have been so confused

Atlantis, proof that fanfics existed even back in ancient Greece.

Another great video from Raven, love watching them

Props on the intro

@DigItWithRaven

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!! Felt it was finally time I sat down and made one

Hi, just wanted to say keep up the great work you are doing! I studied classical archeology for one 1 year but I had to end because of financial issues and this channel keeps me updated. Thank you

Incredible! Thanks for these vids!

Thousands of years In the distant future, an archaeologist will be giving a lecture about his search for Atlantis. He will describe in great detail how his excavation uncovered what he thinks might be a fifth Canopic jar. After years of decipherment he can finally read aloud the jar’s ancient sacred inscription “Play-doh.” In hearing this most of his audience will think he must be talking about an Ancient Greek philosopher.

@DigItWithRaven

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

Did anyone come from 9gag?

@DigItWithRaven

3 жыл бұрын

Welcome!

Thank you Andrew! You've changed lives!

Well came from 9gag because your friend recommended , subscribing because the video was quite fascinating.. 10/10 would recommend to others ..good luck !

9gag is here to support you ! cool content

@DigItWithRaven

3 жыл бұрын

I love you all! 9gag restored my faith in humanity today

Nice channel sis, found u @9gag :))

@DigItWithRaven

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! 😊

Your friend from 9gag recommended you. You have great content!! 😊

@DigItWithRaven

3 жыл бұрын

Ah amazing! Thanks for coming :)

When I started studying the late bronze age, and specifically the Minoan culture, I also learned of Thera, the small island that Raven speaks of briefly. After the collapse of the bronze (unofficially 1177 BCE) the world around the Mediterranean went to shit. People were displaced, writing was lost, much of the world had to start over. Songs, stories and poems were how memory was passed down. Thera (modern Santorini) was an island with a ring and a caldera in the center of it. It blew up in 1628 BCE (or somewhere around that time. Thera was an extension of the Minoan civilization, who would hugely influence the Greeks. The archeology at Thera reveals amazing and beautiful structures and paintings, and could have been thought of by many as "advanced" in its day. Seriously, look it up. With the story of its demise as much of it fell into the sea. It seems likely that the Greeks or Egyptians kept the story alive, though highly embellished, as were all stories from before the collapse. There are many Greek myths that were based in bronze age truths, and I see Atlantis as one such story. Solon the sage (6th cent. BCE), heard of it from Egyptian priests-the only civilization that wasn't totally destroyed by the Sea Peoples, but severely weakened in the bronze age collapse. Egypt would have possibly retained some form of exaggerated tale of so-called Atlantis. There are good reasons to believe that the myth of Atlantis is based in the fall of the Minoan civilization in Crete and the exploding volcano (Thera) of one of the many surrounding islands around it. I said I would only write 2 sentences. Sorry for the rant, and if you've read till here, may Bright-eyed Pallas Athena- Whose Shield is Storm and Thunder, bless you!

@mnomadvfx

3 жыл бұрын

The impassable barrier of mud does not sound like an island in the middle of the ocean. It actually sounds more like the potential site discovered near the south western Spanish coast more recently. I have been very skeptical about this Spanish discovery, but it is beginning to sound very interesting regardless of whether it is Atlantis or not. OTOH Akrotiri and the Minoan ruins have their own thing and far more funding going into their excavation - I am not worried about their being properly dug up and documented, save for a possible coming eruption of the volcano at Santorini which is supposedly overdue at this point.

@tylerdurden3722

2 жыл бұрын

The only problem is that it doesn't lay on the other side of the straight Gilbritar. During the Bronze age, that straight was very well known, as Tin came from beyond that straight. Most didn't known where exactly Tin came from...they just knew it came from somewhere beyond the straight. Thanks to the Phoenicians going to great lengths to maintain their monopoly on Tin. The Egyptians were perfectly aware of the straight of Gilbritar's location. If the destruction of Atlantis was a Bronze age event, then Atlantis can definitely not be in the Mediterranean. But, the story is probably made up as a kind of parable. Kind of like the story of the boy who cried wolf. Ancient Greeks believed the story was made up for this purpose (very few took it literally). Just like very few take the story of the boy who cried wolf literally. The story isn't even about Atlantis. The story centres on an ancient version of Athens...with side characters and a protagonist (Atlantis). We know a ton about Athens...enough to know that the story is clearly made up. No example of a utopian civilization existed, so one was created for the purposes of the story.

@sokar_rostau

2 жыл бұрын

@@tylerdurden3722 Pointing to one thing and saying "this is wrong therefore it's all wrong" is a very poor and highly simplistic way of viewing things like this. Plato says that he heard the story from Solon, who was told the story by an Egyptian priest. It is entirely reasonable to assume that the Egyptian priest told Solon that the location was "beyond the mouth of the Nile" or "beyond Egypt's known world" and that Solon, Plato himself, or a later translator, misinterpreted this to mean beyond the Straits of Gibraltar (there is actually debate over whether the Pillars of Heracles even referred to Gibraltar). Even the date that Plato gives, of 9600 years ago, can be reasonably interpreted as pointing towards the Minoans - remove a zero and you have a fairly close approximation of the actual date of the Thera eruption. Is it a perfect date? Hell no but it is tolerably close for someone writing a third-hand story almost 2500 years before even the idea of C14 dating. You cannot debunk Biblical Literalism with a literal interpretation of Biblical texts and this is exactly what you're trying to do here. You're assuming that Plato was 100% accurate in writing down what Solon told him, that Solon was 100% accurate in relating to Plato what the Egyptian priest told him, and that if modern evidence doesn't precisely match the ancient source then said source must be fiction. Even your assertion that no example of a "Utopian" civilisation existed is wrong. Did a literal Utopia ever exist exactly as written? Absolutely not but when one group of people are living hand-to-mouth in mud huts and another is feasting on imported luxury foods in stone-built palaces (castles have defences, palaces do not... the Minoans had no need of castles (until they did and it was too late)) with hot & cold plumbing and flushing toilets, covered in some of the greatest art of the ancient world, in what other way could you describe the difference? Have you ever seen a Hollywood movie based on a historical event? Just because a detail is wrong doesn't mean the event depicted didn't happen.

@Gealaiche

2 жыл бұрын

@@mnomadvfx It does if the sea was choked with pumice. Which it almost certainly would have been

@shaolin1derpalm

2 жыл бұрын

He most certainly didn't hear it from Solon. Solon dies in 560 bce. Plato wrote the Critia in 360 bce. And it is highly likely that he didn't travel to Egypt at all.

Hey your friend mentioned your channel in 9gag I’m a subscriber now

@DigItWithRaven

3 жыл бұрын

That's so sweet of her! Thanks for joining in on the archaeology fun 😊

I just watched the movie “As Above, So Below” which takes place in the catacombs beneath Paris. I’d love to see your reaction to that! I was actually thinking of this channel the whole time because even though I’ve never studied archaeology, I’ve learned enough from this channel that I was saying, “What?! That’s not what you do!” as I was watching! :)

Great video! I love hearing about professionals talk about the myth, Atlantis is really fascinating as long as we don't try to claim it's real. It's a really fun fictional story though. I think it's important to remember, when people talk about what Plato said, that Plato himself *didn't* talk about Atlantis. He wrote a character, Kritias, who talked about Atlantis. And Plato wrote that Kritias heard it from his ancestor (grandfather?) who heard it from Solon who heard it from an Egyptian priest... and ancient game of telephone described in a dialogue that Plato made up to serve as a morality tale. Sure there could very well be inspirations but not actual real-life Atlantis.

1:47AM. The perfect time to be watching this.

Just a side comment about one of the images used in the video... The large lion statue shown when you were referencing the sunken city in the harbor of Alexandria is actually from the Neptune Memorial Park off the coast of Florida.

I'm solidly in the moral allegory category. Great video!

thank u Andrew! and Raven of course ;)

I think Plato also hints to the date, Atlantis was supposedly swallowed by the sea, which would pretty neatly date back to the end of the last ice age (~10.000BC), where the map must have looked very different.

@mnomadvfx

3 жыл бұрын

Swallowed by the sea could literally mean any event of sudden flooding - people get too caught up on the end of ice age being relevant to these things, the only thing I've ever seen that comes even close is the sunken Khambat Bay 'city' off the coast of India which even then is not dated to 10,000 BC.

I recall a theory from a number of years ago, that the myth of Atlantis may have originated from an instance of soil liquefaction after a severe earthquake. From what I remember, the theory was that a small city/town may have been swallowed up by mud, and the survivors then embellished things with the retelling. Also, have you ever seen a British programme called Time Team? If so, I'd be curious about what you thought of their methods.

Subscribed! From 9gag

@DigItWithRaven

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!! Loving the 9gag community influx here. Complete surprise and I owe a lot to the friend who mentioned me :)

This channel bout to blow up Atlantis style

Think it's the proper time for an 'El Dorado' video version!

Excelent video as always! Hope to see videos about civilisations from Africa and South East Asia

@DigItWithRaven

3 жыл бұрын

Not my areas of specialization but I can definitely try!

Hey Raven, only came here bcz of a good friend of yours who appreciates your work. Keep it up and hope u good luck on your work. 9gag user

@DigItWithRaven

3 жыл бұрын

🥺 she's so sweet for sharing my channel. What a way to spend a Thursday... Welcoming so many new friends to the page!

Speaking if lost city's, what are your thoughts on Göbekli Tepe?

@russellmillar7132

Жыл бұрын

The t-shaped pillars are roof supports.

I would like to add something, I heard some of the explorers of atlantis try to justify their search by turning to Troy and say that Troy was once thought to be myth but it turn out to be true so atlantis must also be this case as well.

@shaolin1derpalm

2 жыл бұрын

That is everyone's excuse for everything. Including the Rosslyn bloodline being related to Jesus

I shall subscribe and like this video.

As a teacher of History and a History nerd myself discovering your channel was like a Holy Grail to me. I had my days of liking Atlantis myth as well as one of my chilhood friends and I remember reading one book wich I find most interesting - "An A to Z of Atlantis" from Simon Cox. Simon refers other details of the Atlantean myth like the similarities between far apart civilizations like the Egyptians, the Hebrews and the Aztec, regarding for exemple the Bible's Deluvian (wich I would like to see a video about it). But one of the things I particularly liked in Cox's book was that he refered another source for the atlantean myth in a medieval (I believe german or scandinavian) manuscript - don't remember the name, I read it in 2007. I very much suggest you to read Cox's book, since it contained information, I haven't seen anywhere else. And yes I share the same opinion that Atlantis was just a political allegory. Another tip for those "react to movie" videos: please be more detailed in the info, not just the big parts. Talk about the clothes, the scenarios, the hairstyles, etc. I felt that there was a lot more to say about the movie Troy (2004). Also do the same for videogames: you got good series like Assassin's Creed, Uncharted, Tomb Raider and even solo games like Far Cry: Primal. Please also do vintage movies. If you want suggestions I can help a lot. (I bet you dont understand Portuguese, but I did similar videos but with not so much succes. Thanks for the job. I was looking for this quite a long time).

Great video. Just one thing: the idea that Orichalcum contains gold comes from a "latinized" misspelling "Aurichalcum." The original word means something like "mountain copper" or "mountain bronze." It is believed by many experts to be a naturally occurring copper-zinc alloy that has been found in ingots. Basically, its likely brass.

Great channel. I just found out about it from your 10 Myths colaboration. Now I am even more sorry that my parents did nor allow me to study arheology so I went to economy instead🤠😁 P.S. It is hard to be admited to arheology here in Croatia (just a few students are admiteecevery year) so at the end I wouldn't make it anyway😃

9gag brought me here too. Best thing ever! When I get paid I may sub your patreon. Im broke now uWu.

@DigItWithRaven

3 жыл бұрын

Awe you're so sweet!! Thank you for your support and I totally understand the broke thing 😉. All the best and good luck with everything!!

Nibling. Nice. Haven’t heard that word in forever 🤣

"If you're really set on finding Atlantis yourself, all you have to do is open up some Play-Doh" is how I heard it LOL

Of course, the really important question is, Raven: Do you think they had unicorns there? And...just off the top of my head here...might there be a Dig It With Raven video viewing and commenting on Atlantis: The Lost Empire? (grins) Also, let me take a moment right now to give a standing ovation to cousin Andrew! Many thank's from all of us who have benefited from your wise ways and persuasive manner!

One of my favorite Disney Atlantis nuggets was the fact that Vinny's last name was Santorini.

can you make a video on the lost city Dwarka?

3:17 How does Plato's mention of azure robes mesh with the idea of blue "not existing" in Ancient Greece? 🤔 (I don't have references handy, but that strikes me as worth checking into...)

There are sunken settelments in the baltic sea in Germany, they are sometimes called german Atlantis. Maybe this is the origin of those theories. Also not to forget, that those conspircienuts sometimes think, that the Ahnenerbe did real reserch.

Greetings from 9gag solsburyhill sent me

Your friend recommended your channel on 9GAG, thank this nigga 🤙🏼

It's in Portugal barely excavated, Castro do Zambujal, Vila Nova de São Pedro culture (Chalcolithic and Bronze Age, almost 2000 years in existance and central to many West European developments, notably Bell Beaker). Some details that fit: 12 km long marine branch (silted at the end of the city and civilization, probably by tsunami), located on the middle hill of an oblong peninsula (almost island), 10 hypogee (artificial cave) neo-megalithic (probably princely) tombs (coincident with the 10 kings of Atlantis), bull "ritual hunt" traditions then and to this very day, close to many very rich mineral sources (exploited later by the Romans), in contact with Mycenaean Greece at least via the other South Iberian civilization of the Bronze Age (El Argar, phase B totally influence by Greece), no native elephants but major trade in ivory with North Africa (further east the ivory arrived from Syria), extremely influential. I even think it's at least possible that the Atlantean invasion of the Eastern Mediterranean coincides with the final Late Bronze Age collapse c. 1070 BCE (a century after the last documented "Sea Peoples"), when both Egypt and Greece finally fall (Egypt to the Berbers, Greece very mysteriously but Athens survived untouched).

@russellmillar7132

Жыл бұрын

Plato's Atlantis was said to have existed 9000 yrs. before his time (428-348 BCE). The site and events you suggest may have been the inspiration (as could one of the scenarios Raven lists), for the story, but in no way confirms the notion of a lost, highly advanced agricultural maritime culture thousands of years before the bronze age.

@LuisAldamiz

Жыл бұрын

@@russellmillar7132 - That's what he said but that's absolutely impossible: no civilization whatsoever existed then and there was no Athens either to defeat them at war. As the Egyptian priests of his own account said: "you Greeks are like children, you have no memory". Forget about the 9000 years, however if you consider 900 years that's very approximately when it happened.

@russellmillar7132

Жыл бұрын

@@LuisAldamiz Agreed!

@LuisAldamiz

Жыл бұрын

@@russellmillar7132 - Glad you do. The timeline of Athens is important here IMO, as it was the only Mycenaean city to survive the c. 1070 BCE collapse. In those days the whole of Greece was utterly destroyed (but Athens remained unscathed) and is also the time when Lower Egypt was conquered by the Meswesh (Amazigh or Berbers), a slightly better documented episode. It is, very approximately, also the date of the silting of the canal (of the almost exact lenght said by Plato) or "marine branch" that linked Castro do Zambujal (Atlantis or its port bastion rather, the hill remains to be excavated) to the Atlantic Ocean and the end of that long-lived civilization (pivotal in both Dolmenic Megalithism and Bell Beaker culture).

It is a conspiracy, she really misspoke at 12:30

One thing you didn’t mention and probably don’t know why a lot people believe it to be true is the fact that Plato gives a geological date of flooding for the submergence of Atlantis which is 9000 years before the time of Solon(9600bc) which matches the date of great flooding called meltwater pulse 1b. So I reckon you should create a video giving your opinion on the parts that an advanced civilisation with advanced agriculture was submerged by the sea and swept from the earth so that mankind had to begin again like children with no memory of what happened before and that it happened 9000 years before the time of Solon.

@AlbertaGeek

9 күн бұрын

You really need to start fact-checking your sources. MWP1b raised the ocean level 13 m over a period of 300 years, roughly 4 cm/year. No natural event that a snail could out-run could "sweep" any civilization, much less an advanced one, from the face of the Earth.

A guy's comment in a 9GAG post sent me here, nice content. But don't ask about the post though.

@DigItWithRaven

3 жыл бұрын

Haha I had to ask them! Either way, I'm glad to see so many new faces on my channel

Atlantis... I spend a week there one night!

guess what Raven? there really is an Atlantis that fits platos' story very well.i will probably disclose it in a book...soon.

"In a single day and night of misfortune, the entire island of Atlantis vanished into the sea."--Plato's Dialogues. Who else never had much interest in the story of Atlantis (or never knew about it) until Disney made its criminally underrated movie, "Atlantis: The Lost Empire."?

Someone thinks they found a place that fits some of the criteria for the lost city of Atlantis. It's not in an ocean, but it is an "island" of sorts located in northwestern Africa s of (I forget) a mountain range. The area is very barren and difficult to get to and no one lives in the immediate area. It seems a large sinkhole was the cause of the destruction, but the "island" is surrounded by several rings of water and land that resembled descriptions of Atlantis. It might be Atlantis or some ancient replica from Plato's description. Either way, it does appear worth investigating further. (Found it on YT, but can't remember the source).

@LadyLeda2

Жыл бұрын

Yes I saw that too. It was a very interesting theory.

I love the stories of Atlantis.

@russellmillar7132

Жыл бұрын

What is your favorite story from Atlantis?

I don't know why people are so obsessed with the fictional city of Atlantis, despite being told again and again that it never really existed (Plato outright stated that the Athenians once defeated an attack by the Atlanteans around 10,000 BCE), when places like Doggerland exist.

I think Atlantis was originally based off of the Minoan civilisation and the eruption of Thera. I also think there has been embelishment and twisting of the tale over the centuries.

What do you think of the idea that Atlantis is the same place as Tarsish from the Bible? One theory is that Atlantis/Tarsish was on the coast of Spain.

What do you think of a culture being from Doggerland? Would have been gone by 6000 bce and it would have been past the straights of Gibraltar?

@russellmillar7132

Жыл бұрын

Much has been uncovered about Doggerland. Archaeologists have their timeline worked out for habitation of this island. Plato's story was about an Island that existed prior to 9000 BCE and then disappeared with no trace.

I'm secretly imagining a future where people regard CWCVille on the same level as Atlantis.

Kinda sounds like Plato was describing North America with his description of Atlantises location. Hey!! What about that theory that it's the Eye of the Sahara or whatever? Can you look into that?

Need info about Lumeria continent

La Atlántida estará donde cada quién quiera (racional o inconscientemente)... Yo creo que pudo ser una referencia a la mítica Tartesos, en España. En el fondo de esta cuestión, yace una crítica a las sociedades opulentas y a lo efímero de la gloria y el progreso... Platón escribió sobre la Atlántida como una profunda Metáfora Moral. Es una buena advertencia para nuestra propia civilización. Gracias poer tu video... saludos desde ARG. ...🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷

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Hi, maybe you can go over Disney's Atlantis sometime :)

@DigItWithRaven

3 жыл бұрын

Oh boy... I don't know if I want to ruin the movie for myself 😅. It's just so good!

Have you heard of the Sunken ruins of Dwarka? Dwarka was once said to be ruled by Lord Krishna.

As soon we manage to go back in time and avoid the fire in Alexandria's library, we may find the exactly location of Atlantis... =) I love to think in conspiracies =)

@DigItWithRaven

3 жыл бұрын

Oh man... I love imaging what could have been in the library of Alexandria and all the history we could learn from it

@fabriziotofanelli

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine we having access to this library nowadays and gathering all the "" forbidden knowledge "" behind it...

@mnomadvfx

3 жыл бұрын

Fires, multiple fires - it was burned more than once unfortunately.

OG stands for Original Gangster. Innappropriate usage and I guess you won't miss me!

Do you think the possible legitimacy of Atlantis being real might have possibly had to do with the discovery of Troy, a city once also believed to be fiction?

@russellmillar7132

Жыл бұрын

Yes the discovery of Troy confirmed that the ruins of a city, having been finally unearthed by mainstream archaeologists, showed that the well known myth about Helen of Troy was set in a historical place. One difference is that the story of Atlantis was not a myth. There were no legends about any of the heroes (demi-gods) like with Troy, and until the 1800s, as Raven points out, unless one had actually read Critias, it was mostly unknown.This place was not part of a well known story in any of the cultures in the known world at that time, from which a plethora of tales, myths, legends, and mythical beings are known. Now someone might want to use the example of Troy to indicate that Atlantis may still be discovered because that would tend to legitimize the claims made by various authors ( I. Donnelly, Graham Hancock, Emanuel Velikovsky etc). And if actual evidence (ruins, artifacts) are, as with Troy, uncovered, tested and analyzed, and shown to objectively establish the existence of this culture, I would wholeheartedly embrace this evidence as a truly extraordinary find. Till then I don't consider that the fact that there have been places first known by myth that were found to be factual means that all stories from ancient times are about real places or events.

You can google "Dwarka" Legends say that's it was the grand city of krishna which was swallowed by the sea... Ruins have been found but no news yet. Can you make a video about it? It's in India Edit: There's a documentary about it on KZread too! Many of its ruins had been found but the government stopped the excavations because of some "special" people... Yep! That's it, I really hope you make the video :D Here's the video I was taking about: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gIp91cyxZbuZgbA.html

@mnomadvfx

3 жыл бұрын

It's a very murky (hehhe pun) subject considering it is much further from the coast than the sunken Egyptian city Heracleion and in waters less calm for exploration.

Plato was a genius philosopher. Even after millenia we all know the morality tale of what might happen if you get to big for your boots. Massive respect to Plato. If Atlantis was real, so many have looked for it in practically every part of the world...we would have found something. Alas, Atlantis only existed in Platos head.

I thought you would mention the Eye of Sahara as a possible place for Atlantis. But then again its not under water so i can see why you didnt include it

@mnomadvfx

3 жыл бұрын

No, it's just waaaay too far in land.

@Munchausenification

3 жыл бұрын

@@mnomadvfx yeah that is why i was unsure if she would mention it. However, back when the Sahara dessert were green i recall the Eye of Sahara being under water, either by under a massive river or flooded regularly. Im not sure if the time of green Sahara matches up with the first mentions of Atlantis though.

@russellmillar7132

Жыл бұрын

@@Munchausenification African Humid Period, 10,000-5000 BCE. Richat structure caused by magma upwelling then subsiding millions of years ago the wind, sun, and water erosion of dome like feature. No artifacts, ruins, or other signs of habitation by homo sapiens.

How many 9gagers are here? This looks almost ridiculous. Anyway, I'm one of them as well. Subbed to support you although I'm not sure how much it helps. I'm just a video game nerd.

Lol aliens are hiding it in space.

a few years ago there was something about the area where Atlantis would've been, was around Europe from memory, a portion of land had fallen over time and some believe it was where Atlantis was. wether it existed, like, who thought of it? Everything that is fiction, myth, legend is based on a truth.

@sokar_rostau

2 жыл бұрын

A legend is embellished fact, a myth is a legend where the gods take an active role in events, and fiction is just made up.

What about the Eye of the Sahara? I know the idea comes from that weird Jimmy Bright Eyes conspiracy guy, but I think it holds a lot of merit.

@russellmillar7132

Жыл бұрын

The Richat structure is a known geologic feature that has been studied extensively. Jimmy's not-so-bright insight is not the source but the purveyor of a load of conspiracy crap that we would all be better without, but alas, fiction, fantasy, and conspiracy sell way better than boring science.

@miketheburns

Жыл бұрын

@@russellmillar7132 in the months since posting this I have also found the evidence for naturally-formed geologic explanation. Crazy how these guys just ignore all that so they can tell their science fiction stories. I mean, I really like listening to them to fall asleep. Good story-telling. But they should tell everyone that they're fake and that no evidence supports this.

@blackhawk7r221

Жыл бұрын

@@miketheburns There is the fact that Atlantis was documented as an island in a sea. The geologic elevation of the Sahara would not, even eons ago, allow for the formation of a sea.

Is it Plato or play-dough? :P

Is it just me or does the bust of Hesiod look a lot like Gary Oldman?

Long before the Mediterranean Basin filled with the rising water levels from the climatic warming and subsequent melting of glaciers at the end of our last ice age, there was a river that carved it’s way northward across northwest Africa called the Nile. At it’s mouth, the Nile took a huge plunge in elevation before reaching the floor of the Mediterranean. We do not know if it was a giant waterfall, but the Grand Canyon pales in comparison to what existed long ago. Now mentally put that away for the moment. Let’s look at any great river delta to see sediment buildup, the formation of land, the course change of various distributary channels, and we can see that it is entirely possible that Atlantis could have simply been a seaport city state on the Nile’s delta that was considered an island simply by being cut off by a new distributary river channel. Plausible so far. Now consider the makeup of a river’s delta with deposited soil being added with that distinctive subsurface steep drop at it’s seaward edge. This lends to regular undersea mudslides at that sharp drop. Now compound this with being in an earthquake prone zone, for we know that Alexandria has certainly been toppled in the past by earthquakes. What if the city state “island” of Atlantis simply succumb to a massive river delta landslide with the follow-on mountain of silt merely covering any remains?

That's why you don't mess with gods bruh

You missed Kumari kandam.

Anyone else from 9GAG?

@DigItWithRaven

3 жыл бұрын

Love it!!

Atlantis the lost empire, one of my all time favorite movies, they made a sequel to this it is OK; my theory is that america is Atlantis, there is a coin out there with what appears to be the coast of the Americas on it, the only way for us to know is to dig with permits, i know this is all speculation

From 9gag

Now you have to react to Aquaman.

@DigItWithRaven

3 жыл бұрын

Haha first I have to watch Aquaman!

@mnomadvfx

3 жыл бұрын

Timescales are completely to pot in Aquaman. It implies that an inland sea existed in Africa (deserter kingdom) that dried up, and yet it also implies that Atlan set up his quest for the trident when it was still a sea and left those statues there in Italy, one of which was Romulus (first king of Rome). There was definitely not an inland sea in Africa in Romulus's time (no later than 1000 BC) - someone didn't do their research properly. That also implies that Atlan and therefore golden era Atlantis existed at the same time as very early Rome - definitely off piste there and then some.

@eatsmylifeYT

3 жыл бұрын

@@mnomadvfx I'd rather hear it from Raven than from you. That's why I suggested it.

Its like that scene from dumb and dumber when they hitmen come to kill them and Lloyd thinks its the gas man... *post his "friends KZread channel in a 9GAG post comment section* *Grabs him by the face do you know what you've done!* lol 😆

If you look at the Richat structure in Mauritania, you do get the three concentric ringed structure of Plato, and while it's south of the straights of gibranlter it's in the correct general direction from greece... and that structure has been lost in teh desert for a LONG LONG time, it was photographed for the first time in 1960 by Gemni astronauts... I think it to be a better "candidate" than any that you listed on your alternate locations list.

The Bermuda Triangle swallowed up Atlantis? So a myth swallowed a myth?

I will never not love hearing Americans talk about Plato 😂

Wasn't Atlantis defeated by Athens in a war per the story? So yeah the Greeks probably just packed up the leftover people and the island and took it home as a trophy.

@russellmillar7132

Жыл бұрын

Problem is, Athens wasn't even a city 9000 years before Plato's time.

@WayneBraack

9 ай бұрын

​@@russellmillar7132yup. That's partly why we know Atlantis was never there other than in his political tale.

they was probably just falling angels building a kingdom on earth and it was a fact that falling angels mated with humans

Anthropologists Robert Sepehr has a much more detailed hypothesis on the origins of Atlantis.

@AlbertaGeek

Жыл бұрын

_" __-Anthropologists-__ Grifter, fraud, and overt racist Robert Sepehr"_ *FIFY*

@thomaswilliams3426

Жыл бұрын

@@AlbertaGeek In what way?

@AlbertaGeek

Жыл бұрын

@@thomaswilliams3426 In what way did I fix what you wrote? By providing _accurate_ descriptors of him.

@thomaswilliams3426

Жыл бұрын

You give no explanations only opinions. Great rhetoric.

@AlbertaGeek

Жыл бұрын

@@thomaswilliams3426 That he spouts racist and pseudoscientific garbage is not opinion, it is fact.

Pardon my condescending sarcasm, but archaeologists & historians at one point said Troy was a myth until they found it... 😆 What makes you think Atlantis isn't in a place called Mauritania the Eye of the Sahara that is now being considered.. There is a new consideration that human civilization started far back than we thought.. Plus the new findings in Turkey with a tablet showing an asteroid hitting the Earth supports the idea. Hmmm 🤔 ain't that coincidence

@blackhawk7r221

Жыл бұрын

The fact that Atlantis was definitely called an island in the sea. The elevation of the Sahara says no.