I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again… DO NOT MARRY A MAN WITH THE SURNAME OF “PETERSON”

@princessorangetree4331

3 жыл бұрын

haha oh wow Scott, Drew, and Michael 😱

@AJ_1namillion

3 жыл бұрын

@@princessorangetree4331 lol exactly

@mysticxjuice

3 жыл бұрын

the name isn't the problem, its the person, dont marry someone who shows these bad signs lol

@xpinkrainx

3 жыл бұрын

YUP!! ive been saying this toooo!! 👀👀👀

@scottpeterson2619

3 жыл бұрын

thanks for that...

Big red flags: “that’s gone” regarding his wife’s death, his tone feels like an actor proud of the delivery of a rehearsed monologue, contempt smiles of intellectual superiority, just the disingenuous litany of his “virtues” or presentation of being a “martyr”. It just feels gross and like he’s working hard to pretend to be a “good person” and not answer the questions or discuss his wife or the crime.

@skatiesadiemator5948

3 жыл бұрын

Good read! I couldn't put my finger on why I felt like he was lying but this explanation sounds accurate. The world is a stage for some and some actors are better than others.

@marciebernard5037

3 жыл бұрын

He’s definitely putting on a show he thinks is believable

@emilyolson85

3 жыл бұрын

As soon as I started watching the documentary, I had to look up if it was a mockumentary because I was sure he is an actor. I was surprised to see it wasn't, therefore, GUILTY. I agree with you 100%.

@ambermcdonald1302

3 жыл бұрын

"That's gone" is distancing language. A normal statement would be "I miss Kathleen, I wish I could have her back"

@cameljargon

3 жыл бұрын

Also possible that he killed in a fit of rage, and after murdering her, he was shocked and he may have trauma from it (as weird as that'd be), he's like that's done with, is the same as just denying something traumatic happened to you, your brain just shutting down. But I love OP comment. Makes sense.

I've tried analyzing the owl's nonverbal communication in this case, but I'm not familiar enough with his culture to know what turning his head backwards means.

@raymondkravitz2001

2 жыл бұрын

*Indignant hooting*

@bubblerose292

2 жыл бұрын

@@raymondkravitz2001 oh my gosh 😂

@teddysterriertales

2 жыл бұрын

this comment is comedy gold

@charissacruz3458

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@stephentoon848

2 жыл бұрын

Hilarious

Michael Peterson's arrogance is otherworldly.

@westchicago395

3 жыл бұрын

Meet any author and the majority are this arrogant. But they also didn't murder their spouses, so there's that.

@caitlynharbidge3056

3 жыл бұрын

Meet any narcissistic sociopath and you'll find this

@jaysontatum01

3 жыл бұрын

@@westchicago395 not Jeff Kinney tho

@BooksToAshes

3 жыл бұрын

@@westchicago395 I think most successful authors need to have some arrogance considering they have to believe their own work is worth something. (Michael's is a bit too much though).

@jarmilaadam6707

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. He was only surprised by his verdict because he was convinced he'd get away with it.

If you’re looking for a spooky topic, it would be really interesting to see your observations on the Warrens, the demonology couple out of Connecticut that helped inspire the Conjurings and the Annabel movies. Maybe save this one for Halloween 🎃👻

@Rose-cn7kz

3 жыл бұрын

Would love this!!!

@ameliabedeliadumaurier

3 жыл бұрын

Yes! I’m really curious about the real life Warrens

@flimsypickleart532

3 жыл бұрын

Yesssss

@linamackenzie6098

3 жыл бұрын

EVERYONE UPVOTE THIS

@linamackenzie6098

3 жыл бұрын

Did I just say upvote … oh god

Hey there earlyotes

@Heothbremel

3 жыл бұрын

I cannot express how much i love this

@rochelleshon306

3 жыл бұрын

Hey there❣️

@heidievans89

3 жыл бұрын

@@rochelleshon306 Hi

@marshmallow4646

3 жыл бұрын

Hey :)

@archangel5395

3 жыл бұрын

That's funny.

Something about this guy is off by miles. Nothing he says feels truthful. He tries so hard that his eyes get a crazy look. Thank you for a great video.

@MsTammi125

3 жыл бұрын

That means you have great instincts. I find it insane his first wife died the same way. This guy is theatrical- he wrote about killing years ago and had the audacity to be okay with the Leonard Cohen song at the end of that documentary. Read between the lines- he's twisted!

@kristu

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you 😊 Your version of him is very elegant. I agree , he’s all kinds of twisted. Just at the end while he was ”performing” there was a nanosecond where he flashed his teeth and he looked like an angry dog that’s just about to attack and I thought to myself that must be the look that the the woman he talks about saw on her last breaths.

@hremaddox

3 жыл бұрын

And if he did get angry, people would say that's a red flag, too.

@jade3886

3 жыл бұрын

@@hremaddox I mean, pretty sure everyone would understand if he was angry towards the system that was trying to get him arrested for murder.

@kristu

3 жыл бұрын

@@jade3886 So you don’t think he did it? I think he did, although there are many videos that say otherwise.

When he said her name, he said, "that is gone". He didn't use "she" he used "that".... THAT sounded an alarm in my head big-time

@notreallyhere67

3 жыл бұрын

I came here to say the same thing!

@hingeslevers

3 жыл бұрын

He might have meant to say, "that whole ordeal" shortened because it's too painful to think about for too long.

@angelabaird7135

3 жыл бұрын

Same. Big red flags. And made me feel like he has SUPERIOR ability to compartmentalize. The way he said That’s done. No more grief. It’s over. Makes me feel like that’s how he coached himself. Like I already killed her, already dead, what’s done is done and I just needa to what I needa for my survival. Also when he was saying that anger and bitterness are wasted emotions and he shuts them down. Most people can’t CHOOSE how they feel and no matter whether it is a productive emotion or not. That’s not how emotions work. You feel pain and anger until you heal. You don’t just shut it down and repress it. And anyone who does have and practice that ability is alarming to me especially in the trust department. It’s not a good “superpower” to have!!! Scares me more than impresses me tho.

@mojokg13

2 жыл бұрын

However he didn't say 'my wife' or 'her' 'she' 'that person' he said "Kathleen" many perpetrators will verbaly subconsciously distance themselves from the victim, he didn't, which stood out to me.

@tarantulady

2 жыл бұрын

I took it to mean “that era” or “that time” of his life.

i wonder if there is a difference in body language between neurotypicals and neurodivergent people as many ND people fail to recognize body languages of others and mirror it or copy and could have learned it the wrong way. also people with social anxiety. i would love to see a video about this topic.

@bricksloth6920

3 жыл бұрын

I second this query, because I've wondered about it many times myself. My mannerisms are more like autistic tics

@maplep1464

3 жыл бұрын

I've wondered the same because of my bpd!

@inshort6831

3 жыл бұрын

Yess! People misread me a lotty

@sierrah3057

3 жыл бұрын

As someone with ADHD and social anxiety, I’d love a video about this. I hadn’t actually thought about it before but it would make a lot of sense.

@Nikkinogood

3 жыл бұрын

I would assume since my body language gives off that I hate people and why I can't keep or make friends.. No clue why.

The change in his pitch every time he talks about his innocence is concerning. There’s something off with him. I can’t put my finger on it, maybe it’s because he’s acting. He’s being personable in fits and spurts. In between his loving or mildly passionate rants he gets a vacant expression. His “emotions” seem to abruptly stop and I find that incredibly unsettling.

@mariee.5912

3 жыл бұрын

I think he was ready to move on and he did really feel all the sadness that he wants to convey. He wants to show that he was still in love with Kathleen therefore he could not have kilked her.

@polarbearsrus6980

3 жыл бұрын

Right, he's a psychopath It usually comes through if you let them talk long enough.

@jenniferruth812

3 жыл бұрын

I noticed that also! I’m only a few minutes in but when he is talking about OTHER people being wrongly accused he ends sentences in a lower voice, which could indicate he believes it. But when speaking of HIS innocence and being wrongly accused he ends in a higher pitch.

@Samantha-xq5ke

3 жыл бұрын

His pitch when confronted about the male escort in the series was legit comical. He was squealing up high denying it. Later there was proof he was lying

@petroventer1220

3 жыл бұрын

For me it was the realisation that he was talking a lot, but saying nothing. "Where you surprised by the verdict?" That's a yes/no question. He yammered on and on and gave no information. "I had faith in the system." So were you expecting the guilty verdict or not? Because that response can clearly be taken both ways.

I watched ‘The Staircase’ and thought him guilty as sin.

@louisejeffries7155

3 жыл бұрын

Yep the same. Two women in the exact but unusual why of dying (or being killed)

@ghosttheaussiehusky9378

3 жыл бұрын

Yep me too

@agiaba

3 жыл бұрын

When I watched Staircase I started off thinking he was innocent. But then there were sooo many inconsistencies. When his lawyer first brought up to him about the bisexuality, he completely denied it. Then all of a sudden it was a key issue that he outright admitted. There were also times where he said that his wife knew about his bisexuality, and that they would even joke about it, and then at the end he says he wishes he had been able to tell her about it! And so many other discrepancies. Its funny because even this one-sided doc caused many to conclude that he was in fact guilty! Imagine a more unbiased doc!

@rachelraquel758

3 жыл бұрын

NOOO! It was an owl… 🦉 🔪 A murder owl

@ElledieWildAndFree

3 жыл бұрын

@@ghosttheaussiehusky9378 And me.

The fact that he was an author, and spoke like his account of events was a novel, always gave me the feeling that he was guilty. He talked SO much without any feedback. He was telling a tail of innocence. Who else could have done it beside him? I was so frustrated at the lack of hard evidence. I just know he’s guilty for brutally murdered his wife.

He holds his expressions forever. My eyebrows would get tired 🤔

@abbyz13

3 жыл бұрын

Fr he looks like a muppet trying to be innocent

@malloryjoiner8286

3 жыл бұрын

@ M Nash: Good call. There is something slightly unnatural looking about how his face moves. Maybe it’s his individual facial anatomy but...🤔

@mariee.5912

3 жыл бұрын

Don't say that I do the same 😢 I tried to avoid it so I wouldn't need a face-lift when I get older, but I can't help it.

@jkmaddox1539

3 жыл бұрын

The eyebrow creases could have been due to age or maybe a face-lift or maybe just a face-lift but its not 100% a genuine reaction

@anabelle2268

2 жыл бұрын

imagine gordon ramsay

The amount od people named Peterson connected to criminal cases is alarming, just saying.

@sylviapuppysticker8664

3 жыл бұрын

Does Micheal Pedderson count? He murdered JPW'S job hunt

@daneen2fabulous

3 жыл бұрын

My coworker's name is Scott Peterson. I'm assuming he knows about his evil namesake?

@jessy2161

3 жыл бұрын

Which others?

@elishabacon2299

3 жыл бұрын

@@jessy2161 Drew Peterson

@sharona8737

3 жыл бұрын

Seriously; I've thought the same thing.

I have previously watched the 'staircase' series and continue to firmly believe he is guilty as bloody sin

@gregoryholstein4224

2 жыл бұрын

I absolutely, totally agree with you. I've never changed my mind, I also believe he murdered the other lady that died in eerily similar circumstances & he was the last person to see her alive.

@salh-salniated

2 жыл бұрын

Same

@mykidsaresupercute

2 жыл бұрын

Very guilty. He wanted to pay off his sons' debt, they were in a lot of debt. His wife had all the money and she said no. He got $1.4 mil when she died.

@maxmaxs9608

2 жыл бұрын

I think he´s a psychopath and all psychopaths are narcissists. I think he killed the first woman, because he wanted her children (the two girls). He killed Kathleen, because he wanted her money. He´s so delusional and disconnected from reality, that he´s actually suggesting, that his daughters make contact with Caitlyn - who has twins. He not interested in Cailyn, Kathleens daugther - he´s interested in her twins.

@magictransistorradio4933

2 жыл бұрын

I disagree

When he says he’s not angry at anyone or mad at anyone I absolutely don’t believe it! The blocking gestures and the change in pitch screams “I’m lying I’m lying”

Ngl, he has an excellent voice for a disney-type villain..... (Edit: had an unrelated comment here but imma post it separate for algorithm reasons)

@DiamondsLilRooster

3 жыл бұрын

He does!!

@lunachic8559

3 жыл бұрын

Well now I can’t unhear it , lol

@metaphysicalgraffiti

3 жыл бұрын

Why would you not just remove the comment? Why the unnecessary edit?

@Heothbremel

2 жыл бұрын

@@metaphysicalgraffiti algorithms

@robinmcinarnay7827

2 жыл бұрын

@Jesse Charles Um ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I don't get it... Y'all looking for more facts in the case should check out Kendall Rae's video she just released. She addressed the life insurance policy, the bisexuality, that he was banging the editor of the documentary for over a decade, etc...

For the first question where he lists all the things he doesn't miss I don't think it's like you say, adding details in an attempt to deceive. They're not really details, like you mention, about a crime. I think it's more likely he's adding it in an attempt to feel superior and to also make himself seem more virtuous. He thinks, oh I bet others would miss their home cooks meals, beer, and freedom, but not me. I miss my family.

@elysahday2454

3 жыл бұрын

To me, he's justifying himself because he either knows or anticipates what people would think about him. I think he's an overthinker.

@polarbearsrus6980

3 жыл бұрын

A little of both, the analyst has a point, too.

@gracielarycerz9317

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. I think every time he goes off tangents or adds unneccessary details, it is either to paint himself morally superior to others, or to further explain (or clarify) something that (he believes) the listener wouldn't understand if it wasn't for his explanation. Sort of "I will elaborate cause I see you won't understand". Condescending and again, feeling superior, intellectually this time. A lot of his tangential speech contains abstractions or literature references to show how knowledgeable he is. Regardless of his innocence or guilt, he really believes he's better than most and cares a lot about what others think of him.

@melissacarron2309

3 жыл бұрын

I often do this when I’m telling mundane stories… idk why. I also had trouble with storytelling even in grade school though, it’s possible in just bad at it. When I tell a story in a group, I can tell that I’m losing people halfway through etc. I think it’s because I do the best in life when I’m presented with a lot of context on something, and maybe it’s me trying to do the same thing for others? Idk. A friend last year asked me if I might think I’m on the spectrum. Caught me very much by surprise, it was the first time that was ever suggested to me (I’m 33) and I’ve never forgotten it. Maybe I just don’t know how to tell a story like everyone else 🤷🏼‍♀️

@gracielarycerz9317

3 жыл бұрын

@@melissacarron2309 It's just how he comes across though. Not everybody who expands upon an answer or a dialog feels superior, although he does IMO. I've seen a lot of "context and clarity" people, (I'm one myself) but most don't believe themselves better than others. So don't worry :)

To paraphrase Oscar Wilde, “‘To lose one's friend to a fall down the stairs in 1985, Mr Peterson, may be regarded as a misfortune; to go on to lose your wife in 2001 to a fall down the stairs looks like carelessness.”

Through hours of research, watching interviews, the full doc-series, I've concluded that the owl theory has to be true. Someone in that house was getting their acceptance letter to Hogwarts and she happened to be in the flight path. Don't cross an owl on the job.

@raymondkravitz2001

2 жыл бұрын

*Hoots in agreement*

@justynastasiak9477

2 жыл бұрын

yes! Finally a credible theory in all the bu@#%it we heard produced by Mr Peterson.

@luisavieira2985

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@truthtransistorradio6716

7 ай бұрын

People that mock it haven't spent more than 5 seconds thinking about it! There were unexplained details in the case that a blowpoke or mere fall could explain. I think the owl attack in the front yard, lead to a blood trail from the front porch to the stairs, and she collapsed on the stairs. Feathers found in her scalp were there. If they had even considered it, they would have checked to see if any pillows had similar feathers, or what animal produces those feathers and research the animal. Bard owl attacks are common in that area in December.

@truthtransistorradio6716

7 ай бұрын

​@@justynastasiak9477And by the prosecution team.

So, to mirror what's going on the comments: I have borderline personality disorder and some people with it are rather sensitive to body language but assume the worst. This channel actually helps me practice my DBT and remember that there's a lot more going on behind expressions than just "they looked at something behind me, they've checked out of the conversation and I'm annoying" lol

@The_Tortoise_and_the_Hare

3 жыл бұрын

I have avoidant personality disorder and can't trust what people are saying is true, especially if they say nice things. And I get offended by most things just because I expect the worst to be happening, even if it wasn't meant that way.

@poppiikat7562

3 жыл бұрын

I have borderline personality disorder as well and finished my DBT 2 years ago and this definitely does help with interpersonal interpretation and really brings me back down to not assuming things :)

@gatort33th

3 жыл бұрын

Hey, me too! It’s really helpful and truly puts me in a more realistic perspective rather than jumping to conclusions. Good luck on your dbt and have a great day!!!!!

@xellffs6258

3 жыл бұрын

"lol" 🖕

@LilKingler

3 жыл бұрын

@@xellffs6258 at least take 'em to dinner first 😳

When he said "THAT is over and totally gone", I took it to mean that part of his life and the relationship they had. That time and that way of life for him is over, because she's gone forever. He misses his wife, but he doesn't relate it to things that are hard about being locked up because even if he's released, Kathleen will still be gone. To be honest, he reminds me of my dad. It's hard because telling if my dad is lying, is innocently wrong, or is in some sort of denial, can be really difficult. It doesn't make him a liar or malicious, he's not, it's just a more difficult communication style to parse.

@carag2567

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with this. That's how I interpreted his phrasing too. Meaning that in prison or out, Kathleen is dead and that part of his life can never be recovered. However, he is deeply concerned about being separated from his children because they still here and he is missing out on being with them. In The Staircase, it's abundantly clear that this is an extremely close knit family. They rallied around him and their support was unwavering. Michael's first wife even stood by him and you can see they have a warm, friendly, respectful relationship despite being divorced. It's easy to understand why this man feels devastated by the forced separation from the people he loves the most.

@Bree420

3 жыл бұрын

And about him adding a lot of stuff to his answers could be explained by the fact that he's a novelist too. Also, this is an interview, not an interrogation. So, perhaps he approached the questions more as a prompt rather than a yes-or-no kind of deal. When a someone prompted a writer to write about a bird, they don't only say that the bird has a yellow beak and a small, button eyes. They also says things about how the tree it lives in are tall and old, and how the forest the tree is grown are raucous, and how rowdy the squirrels who are its neighbours are, etc. So, it makes sense that he is long winded.

@carag2567

3 жыл бұрын

@@Bree420 That's exactly right. This man is being interviewed, not interrogated. And it's his literal job to take words and arrange them so they have the maximum impact possible. He knew in advance what he was going to be asked and had the resources and professional expertise to prepare for it. Whereas an interrogation comes out of nowhere and you have to answer questions without thinking about them first. And even then Michael Peterson still utilized this rhetorical style. He loves words. It's not as if he writes short stories or comic strips. He is a NOVELIST. Being long-winded is the way he knows how to communicate.

@PromisedJubilee

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I call that "story teller." Where an imaginative person is filling in the details and anything they say could be truth or a lie, and they don't necessarily know the difference.

@pri.sci.lla.

3 жыл бұрын

He definitely did it, if you know the case details it’s obvious to everyone.

He's just so calm, he doesn't get angry with any one. Not the people who are trying to "wrongly" convict him, not any one. Huge red flags with "Saint Michael".

@polarbearsrus6980

3 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of Daniel Holtzclaw. He was cool as a cucumber in his interrogation, didn't get excited at all with them accusing him of raping those women. Of course we'd be like "what the heck are you saying, is this a joke" ... he just sits there. Not realistic for an innocent person.

@rainbows9060

3 жыл бұрын

Haha, yes, indeed, and to be houses in a building with men, very very angry and dangerous men, yet he Michael would not be contaminated by his own inner narratives or exsternalising factors. But rather walk around zen like makes me cringe.

@jayleigh3322

3 жыл бұрын

It freaks me out he isn't mad his wife's case is unsolved.

@polarbearsrus6980

3 жыл бұрын

@@jayleigh3322 That says it all.

@hingeslevers

3 жыл бұрын

@@jayleigh3322 would it be unsolved if he still believes it was an accident?

It's a coincidence you added this today because I just finished watching the staircase again. After watching it a few times I have come to the conclusion that he is guilty. I don't think someone who was truly innocent would be so philosophical about the whole situation. He's almost amused by the fact he has to go to prison, whereas if he were truly innocent he would be furious.

@allyb3631

Жыл бұрын

Perfectly said.

Looking forward to this one! This case frustrated me SO MUCH as a criminal psychology major/graduate. Can’t wait to see/hear what you think about the case/his behaviors.

It is too much of a coincidence that two women in his life "fell" down stairs and died

@cassoIa

3 жыл бұрын

I think in the doco though the first woman had an aneurysm or something so she fell and was probably already dead before she hit the stairs. I know that was something mentioned about that and why I accepted it the first time round (also commenting as I started watching this vid so if details are mentioned then yeee) I do agree it’s too much of a pattern to happen again, but I watched this doco twice and it’s so bizarre. There’s so many weird details to this case but I still don’t know where I stand - especially with his wife’s family so adamant he did it even though they had never had a marital fight prior - just secrets of his sexuality. I’m rambling, but yeah. So much to unpack

@nanilotti3321

3 жыл бұрын

THERE IS NO SUCH THINGS AS A COINCIDENCE.... IYKYK

@nanilotti3321

3 жыл бұрын

@@j.bfletcher yaaaaassss 😂😂🙌🙌🙌

@kaheamarcie5286

3 жыл бұрын

How is it too much of a coincidence? My uncle was involved in two different accidents on the same street while riding his bike.

@kaheamarcie5286

3 жыл бұрын

@@iWantToBelieve... Firstly, the likelihood that it was at the same spot while on the same mode of transportation is even more unlikely. Secondly, it was not his wife, it was a mutual friend. The thing with falls down the stairs is that you tend to get bloody and bruised. What kind of evidence do you have that proves he did it? Questionable behavior is one thing but damning evidence is another.

For the first question, I don’t necessarily think he lists the things he does not miss for the sake of being being deceitful and packing unnecessary details. As a person who once fancied themselves a writer (what a fool I was) and has conversed with more skillful writers than myself, I feel that he is trying to illustrate the contrast between what one would normally expect to miss (such as material things), versus what he had actually discovered he missed being in jail. I’ve never read any of his books, but knowing that writers usually have a pattern of communicating, I’m sure that it would be a common writing pattern of his to describe things by what something is not, before describing what it is. Some writers do this for dramatic contrast. “I expected to see a dazzling sunset, instead I was greeted with a forbidding grey sky” (just a random example of what I was trying to explain, not a quote from anything)

@osamashoukry399

3 жыл бұрын

I talk like this. I show what is not before I get to the point. Some people find it boring and distracting other find it interesting and philosophical.

@cococrooks2638

3 жыл бұрын

I totally agree. I answer in the same way - I'm a HF Borderline. I like to reassure what's its "not" before I emphatically say what it "is".

@danicakelly2242

3 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah, once Logan said he was a novelist it all clicked for me: the lists, the “self-editing”, emphasizing certain words, deliberate repetition, dramatic pauses, answering personal questions in the third person and slipping into a narrator-kind of voice/speech pattern. That’s the thing with writers, they make art out of communication (language) and I think it changes & moods the parts of the brain that, well, communicate. When I wrote a ton of poetry in high school & especially college, I often found myself slipping into a poetic style of thinking and speaking specifically in conversations where I was passionate or had a strong feeling. My brain was used to reacting to strong emotion - dealing with it and processing it - through poetry and that it started doing that occasionally while I was in conversation. I’m not really convinced he’s innocent. He still has a covert-narcissist vibe with how hard he tries to make himself the good, perfect, wise, morally superior (but hUmBLe) martyr. But to be fair, him liking to hear himself talk and basking in attention whilst postulating about his own virtues is absolutely a writer thing too and doesn’t mean he’s guilty. Basically I feel like he’d mostly still act & speak like this wether guilty or not. Though I suppose if this is him when guilty, I could imagine that innocent, he would be even worse lol.

@tgrsparrow

2 жыл бұрын

Side note to you "fancied yourself a writer" it's worth the effort, even if your story is only a page long. It's worth it if you can bring a little snippet of your world in your head to life.

Another thing, when you're criminally charged with an offense your attorney always advises you to not show negative emotions for negative emotions, even when justified, sways people to think you're guilty even if you aren't, which is crazy, but people are emotional and mostly judge people by how they feel instead of by facts. I was in a mock jury not too long ago and seen this work in action. People are terrible fact finders

@beck5401

3 жыл бұрын

Could you please give some examples where this has happened? I'm interested in studying this more

@Lydusha

3 жыл бұрын

@@beck5401 for example Jodi Arias was highly advised to play the role of nice soft spoken innocent girl. They allegedly advised her to wear her glasses as much as possible. Glasses often make people feel more sympathetic

@beck5401

3 жыл бұрын

@@Lydusha That makes sense. I guess I didn't clarify well, I was asking OP if they know of any cases where someone was guilty by public opinion, and later proven to be innocent.

@kcnb28

3 жыл бұрын

@@beck5401 have you not heard about black men being released due to DNA evidence? How do you think they got convicted? There are plenty of cases, mostly happening to nonfamous people of color. Anyway, you can ask any trial attorney about this and they will tell you it is true. Most trials are either won or lost during the jury selection process. Look at the police that are obviously guilty of heinous crimes yet are acquitted in trial whether there is video footage or not.

@galacticunicorn6319

3 жыл бұрын

This is super interesting and I didn’t know people were coached by legal advisors to try and not emote negatively. It makes sense though.

*went into this knowing nothing about the situation* I notice that his mouth is drawn fairly tight and his eyebrows are furrowed in the center. It feels like he is trying to force his face to seem solemn or sad than he is. It doesn't seem to match his words or body language, which is why it stood out to me. Also, he refers to Kathleen as, "that's gone" which sort of dehumanizes her and helps detach him from her. Possible eye blocking at 3:55 when asked if he has anger. I mean, he was just in his opinion wrongfully convicted, so it would make sense to be angry, but he says he isn't. He says he doesn't hate anybody, but that isn't the question. He was asked if he was angry, not if he hates someone. He answered a completely different question. That coupled with the gesture makes me think he's lying. I am assuming Kathleen is his wife, and he is so focused on him being wrongfully convicted rather than his wife's killer going free.

@christinasimonetti5649

3 жыл бұрын

You should watch The Staircase on Netflix, it’s wild! His defense is that she fell down the stairs so there isn’t a killer to be found. I highly recommend watching

@Nikkinogood

3 жыл бұрын

He wouldn't feel there was a killer since he believes she fell down the stairs.

@VioletPersuasion

3 жыл бұрын

I caught onto the "that's gone," too. It's weird. I tried to tell myself maybe he means "that relationship," but I know better. 😑

@palimo3653

3 жыл бұрын

She was killed by an owl

@briezzy365

3 жыл бұрын

It’s a wild situation, and he’s had a lot of loss and seems like he’s not Neurotypical.

The captions definitely had you call us idiots 😂

@Heothbremel

3 жыл бұрын

I love it when that happens xD

I can tell you my theory. To begin in regards to "getting a read" on Michael, the Netflix documentary is great for that since you get to see him in all sorts of situations with his defenses not ALWAYS up. Regardless, your baseline for him seems pretty right on. My theory: He is responsible for her death but he did not intend to kill her. Something happened and he freaked out, he (probably) had the ability to potentially get an ambulance to her aid in time to (potentially) save her life but was too fearful of the repercussions for his actions which lead to her (fatal) injuries that he, basically "fled" instead of "fighting". That's what leads to weird inaccuracies in his body language and/along with his choices in verbiage; like when he said "he didn't HURT her". He is shameful / unable to say murder because in his mind... that's definitely not what he did. However he IS lying / being deceitful about hurting her, because he knows he took (some sort of) action... or even inaction if she did simply fall on her own... that lead to her being injured; which lead to her death.

@HawlyAly

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. I've always thought there is something off about this case. I figure he is definitely a narcissist or sociopath, but that in and of itself doesn't make him a murder. However, I could definitely see him getting extremely angry and being a scary dude. I think he either snapped and "doesn't see himself" as a murderer because "oh that wasn't ME", or there was some sort of accident and he didn't do anything to help. He wants to paint the narrative, and in his own mind he isn't a "murderer" he's just a guy who had something bad happen *to* him.

@lemongumbo5282

2 жыл бұрын

Imo yours is the best explanation. Almost every other comment seems to be black or white; either he's innocent, or he's guilty (of being a vicious murderer). Guilty, but not of the crime we think, would explain why he gives off so many conflicting signals.

@webers28

2 жыл бұрын

@@lemongumbo5282 Appreciate the feedback. It's a mystery that I would love to know the answer to. Unfortunately, I highly doubt we will ever, truly, know. But, it's nice to hear some affirmation of my theory.

@mackztynne

2 жыл бұрын

that's why he kept saying "manslaughter". he prolly didn't plan to get rid of her

@skylarjaxx2399

2 жыл бұрын

I had it as she actually did fall down the steps he didn't get her aid or she fell and he finished her! I did see the owl theory in it which gives a lot of details the documentary didn't like the strangulation, and punctures. So I didn't have a sec to factor those in when thinking because they don't mention them.

Seeing and hearing him gives me goosebumps - you can almost physically feel how he´s lying...something is terribly wrong with this man.

I LIVE for your fits sir 🕺🏻✨🧍🏻‍♀️‼️

I find that this man was pretty hard to read, at least for me

@VirgoChick14

3 жыл бұрын

Same thoughts

@ladymopar2024

3 жыл бұрын

Same I got a few but not as many as everybody else oh, I did find him super creepy

@polarbearsrus6980

3 жыл бұрын

Note the way the last word of many sentences are on a higher note... also the blinking in some places is extreme. There's no real real emotion... and the fact he can't say he didn't kill his wife, he isn't angry at anyone (for wrongly convicting him... oh really? I'd have to be put in a strait jacket!). It's totally unrealistic.

@ladymopar2024

3 жыл бұрын

Asian cultures do it too

@kathleenr.9406

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. I really don’t know one way or another.

I’m struggling to understand how he’s fooled so many people into believing he’s innocent..... the dude speaks of his own experiences like he’s reciting from a Life lessons 101 manual.... and he lives in a state of perpetual fantasy. Any sane person would miss good food and the freedom to walk around.... durrrrrr... He’s the worst manipulator I’ve ever seen.... I mean, the worst. How do people believe this BS?! Just look in his eyes 👀

@TheMaleficent1

3 жыл бұрын

Amen!

@Boredchinchilla

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t know how someone can see a guy who had TWO a WIVES fall down stairs and die and not think that something more than being the unluckiest guy in the world is going on. You would have more chance of being struck by lightning twice than having two spouses die the exact same way.

@ZeonGenesis

3 жыл бұрын

@@Boredchinchilla The first one wasn't his wife, it was his friend's wife. But yeah.

@respecthalo2963

2 жыл бұрын

@@Boredchinchilla I had two dogs get hit by cars, doesn't mean I killed them. Not saying it isnt sus but just saying that's not enough proof of anything. I mean people have won the loto several times.

@danielleminerva4525

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed!

I don't believe either side made a convincing case during the trial.

@jkmaddox1539

3 жыл бұрын

Same

The fact that he says 'that' to refer to Kathleen and 'they' to refer to his kids makes it seem like he's trying to separate himself from the crime in a way

@aznmochibunny

3 жыл бұрын

When I first saw the interview, I was under the impression that "that" was referring to the future time he could have spent with Kathleen but seeing it in a new perspective, it could seem that the phrasing is suspicious.

He just looks like he wants whoever is talking to him to understand what he's saying...

@stevensavoie856

3 жыл бұрын

I'm sure he does. That's what I would want if I had something to hide.

My history is he says “I didn’t hurt Kathleen “ because this is not the first time he has been accused of hurting her. By Kathleen or someone else maybe. And he wants to make it clear that he did not “hurt” her or kill her in any sense of the word.

@CorinneRobinson

3 жыл бұрын

Loved it. Thanks for this format. I also think he did it!

it's the first wife that also died at the bottom of a staircase from a head injury and was exhumed and her cause of death was changed to a homicide that does it for me.

@aznmochibunny

3 жыл бұрын

That was not his first wife. His first wife is well and alive currently. The one who died was a friend's wife.

I fully endorse the owl theory but mainly because I appreciate the chaos of it.

@rainbows9060

3 жыл бұрын

I like that I found an owl comment immediately. Where do I co sign?

@Halloweencat31

3 жыл бұрын

Watch dr grande’s video it is hilarious the way he explains the owl theory!

@jamiemiller723

3 жыл бұрын

100% believe the owl theory

@rainbows9060

3 жыл бұрын

@@Halloweencat31 i will give ita go. I find Grande puts me to sleep though.so the fact you find anything he says hilarious is mildly intriguing.

@marig9236

3 жыл бұрын

the thing about owls are they do not have thumbs and can't stop a person's head in.

Can you do the Brett Kavanaugh hearings? And possibly do both sides? I’d find that super interesting to see.

@billpardy4094

3 жыл бұрын

I would also like to see this topic covered! I was very emotionally charged during those hearings, it would be interesting to hear a more objective read of the nonverbal language of both parties as well as the members of Congress who were posing questions.

@rachelraquel758

3 жыл бұрын

SNL covered it pretty well 😂

@billpardy4094

3 жыл бұрын

@@rachelraquel758 I would additionally love a comparison of the parody to the actual hearing. I think that an analyses of how it was made to be so funny from being so serious would be a welcome end to that video.

@EmiliaJay

3 жыл бұрын

That would be very interesting. Would definitely watch that analysis!

@sterlingcooper3978

3 жыл бұрын

Just turn on CNN or MSNBC you get to see slander and lies in real time

Wow! When you point out how he refers to his dead wife as "and THATS gone" ( minute 13:01 ) : it was chilling to hear ,becuase murderers do tend to treat their victims as objects.They dehumanize them,si it made me suddenly look at this man as a murderer because he was not saying "She " is gone but rather just treating her like a piece of furniture ! Amazing how what and how you say something can give so much away ! Great work!

@gabriellecoutu-parent

Жыл бұрын

I think he used “that” referring to their relationship.

No 1 sign of a liar: tangents. An innocent person will not *set up* their point, they will cut straight to the chase - without wasting their breath.

@rsukut5866

3 жыл бұрын

Very curious as to how that differs with people who are neurodiverse, particularly something like ADHD where truly the mind is focused on many things at once.

@YouTubeSupportSucks

3 жыл бұрын

I'm autistic and have ADHD, and often for accused of lying when I wasn't because people think your comment is true for everyone.

@jarmilaadam6707

3 жыл бұрын

@@rsukut5866 my partner has ADHD and I know his tangents well. But when faced with questions like "What do you miss the most," he'd answer directly anyway. Peterson doesn't because he wants to gain moral high ground.

The way he talks about himself and the verdict, almost in third person, saying things like 'one could imagine, because of ___' instead of being defensive and saying "I was shocked at the verdict because I didn't do it!" is a big red flag. Another thing I noticed is how he has an expression of surprise for an extended period of time on his face, which is unnatural. A lot of this reminded me of Stephanie Lazarus. My opinion: He's guilty of what he was convicted for. I assume killing his wife Kathleen from what he said.

@kcnb28

3 жыл бұрын

Do u ever notice that none of u ever read a persons body language as being honest? Next time you have a conversation or someone asks you a series of questions, just pay attention to what your natural responses are and see if an objective observer would read you as being honest or a liar

@horrorgirl688

3 жыл бұрын

@@kcnb28 agreed... because if you followed this story I think this man was 💯 innocent. It made the lawyer himself loose faith in the justice system and affected him for years. The DA's side had a blood splatter expert who completely lied about his experience and his scientific method was a complete joke and lead to the imprisonment of more than one innocent man. He had every right to be angry for how his life was ruined.

@beck5401

3 жыл бұрын

@@horrorgirl688 The thing I have a problem with, is he doesn't seem like someone who's actually angry because he's innocent. He seems to be talking as if he was hypothetically innocent. But yes, this is all opinion based because there's no solid evidence. I did say it's my opinion.

@horrorgirl688

3 жыл бұрын

@@beck5401 I wasn't attacking you or anything..you have a right to your opinion I was agreeing with the other person. If you get to know this man he just has a way of talking that is quite different than most people (and he is a writer and they are quite expressive)..he is highly intelligent and has a hugely loving family you don't see everyday. I just don't believe in his guilt. They made the case more around the fact he was bi-sexual than anything and his wife knew that as well as his family.

@priscillacrockett4881

3 жыл бұрын

The death of his first wife was almost identical. Worth looking into.

I got so irritated listening to Michael's tone continously going up every sentence, I almost turned it off. It's like he's aggressively poking you with his words

Yessss, more of these! I love these. It feels like I'm in a fun, no-pressure EIA class. I love it!

I love this format where we get to watch it first and gather information ourselves and I'm glad you're doing this sometimes now!

I referenced your channel in a recent job application! They asked something I was interested in learning and I said non-verbal communication :)

@danielleminerva4525

2 жыл бұрын

And did you get the job? Or were they scared sh*tless of you??!! LOL

I don't know why, but when I first saw him, he reminded me of that infamous interview of Prince Andrew talking about Jeffrey Epstein etc.

@annacatherineandrews

3 жыл бұрын

WOW YES I get that icky vibe too

@jkmaddox1539

3 жыл бұрын

Yup me too

@conceivebelieveachieve9653

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, spot on detached/cold vibe, like he's speaking about someone else.

I watched a few documentaries on this & the Blood Splatter / Forensics “Expert” employed by the city who worked on the evidence in this case & who took the stand as an expert for the prosecution not only lied about his training, knowledge & certification but also acted extremely unprofessional when processing the evidence & conducting his tests. There’s video of him & his employees purposely angling themselves a certain way to get the outcome they wanted/needed & then running around & jumping in excitement once they got it. There was also some accusations of outright falsifying results in the states favor. Don’t know for sure if this guys innocent but he did deserve a second trial due to the forensic guy’s ridiculous & unacceptable behavior. Hopefully the state will review all of the other cases he worked on since he had no right working on something as important as evidence in legal cases. It also came out that Michael Peterson lied about his past & military history that he wrote about in his books so he’s known to be “good” liar.

@livijean1

3 жыл бұрын

I agree, he is very suspicious, but he also has a right to due process. The expert did more harm than good and obscured the facts of the case.

@hyde1893

3 жыл бұрын

i feel that, this guy is probably guilty but he deserves the same right that everybody has the right to have an honest and fair trail

@kcc-karenschroniccorner9432

2 жыл бұрын

He got a new trial but decided to take an Alford plea instead.

@amberdean374

2 жыл бұрын

I absolutely agree!! Even if he’s guilty he still deserves a fair trial

@amberdean374

2 жыл бұрын

@@kcc-karenschroniccorner9432 oooohhh I didn’t know that!! Thank you for the info!

The problem with I have with him being guilty is all related to the type of injuries that she had. I can’t figure out how she could have actually got those injuries as she had zero skull fractures.

@minier44

2 жыл бұрын

Some sense finally....

@kathleenschwab4645

2 жыл бұрын

This is a very good question that no one seems able to answer

@aniaredwagon

2 жыл бұрын

In the new detectives series 'written in blood' the autopsy/injury specialist says that it's consistent with a cylindrical shaped object not heavy enough to cause fractures. Such as the fireblow (IS this the correct name in English? I can't remember sorry) which Kathleen's sister gifted to her whole family for Christmas.

@charisselinnell-morton4137

2 жыл бұрын

@@aniaredwagon The medical pathology conference actually talked about this case as nobody can determine what caused these.Also that show was on years ago and now that people have taken a better look at her injuries it’s just rather bizarre,strange and odd as if something happened to only damage the veins under her scalp.Her hair was also tangled and this man was simply not able to cause those injuries. The people who tried this case made massive errors and not once did they even think about anyone or anything else. You are speaking about the “blow poke” the daughter found it and it was actually covered by spiderwebs and dust as it was in the garage. Later it was actually found that the police had actually taken it to look for blood on seen and it had nothing on it so they simply tossed it aside and they family couldn’t find it. It’s not the murder weapon but it’s interesting that the people in that area were reporting being attacked by a few very large owls . These ones are enormous and they will cause injuries exactly like what Cathleen had if they were to attack and get stuck in her hair. I know that they didn’t even collect trace evidence! I mean she has microscopic feathers in her hair from one of these huge owls and that’s after she had it washed out .Those injuries are not caused by anything man could do with an object.

@aidabobadilla3394

2 жыл бұрын

@@charisselinnell-morton4137 really?? I read that her injuries were inconsistent with being attacked by an owl. However, the fact she had feathers on her us very interesting

I know it's not the point of the analysis here, but i do find it interesting that he identifies with Raskolnikov, who definitely did kill someone and tried to get away with it based on his idea of being as epic as Napoleon (in his view) and then finally confessed and got imprisoned. Especially since our guy here says he didn't do it, and the running line here is that he likely feels superior to the people around him...

OHHH so excited, I wanted you to make a video on him. Thank you!!!

He shakes his head when his words are affirming, so that’s contradictory. He also seems quite expressive when he talks about everything EXCEpt the victim (I presume his wife). He suddenly freezes his facial expressions and opens his eyes very widely.

@Andreamom001

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t think his no shakes are in conflict though. He’s talking about negative things. Like I’d I was falsely accused and asked if I thought the police did a bad job…I’d say yes but might shake my head as I thought of how badly they did. I took his shakes that way.

@stevensavoie856

3 жыл бұрын

@@Andreamom001 if i was asked that question, I'd have emphatic head nods.. for the most part his head shakes didn't seem suspicious, but there was a moment that I don't recall now where it seemed odd.

I really love the shift towards having the viewer practice what they've learned and go into an analysis without having any bias set up. Really great work!

Thanks Logan for your fascinating channel and of course for your general loveliness!

Michael Peterson Scott Peterson Drew Peterson 🤨 🤔😕

This became a channel where i look forward to every video. Doesn’t matter what the video is about, I’ll watch it.

IVE BEEN WAITING SOOOOO LONG FOR THIS. I HAVE ASKED FOR THIS TOO MANY TIMES IM SO HAPPY 😭

I think he wants some of what he is saying to be true, however I don't think he is in control of his darker urges/.

@PromisedJubilee

3 жыл бұрын

I think he's BOTH. He DOES love Kathleen and misses her in his life, AND killed her and tried to cover it up. Crime of passion, maybe?

I saw this case on Netflix and it’s insane. I’m afraid to say that the “Owl Theory” completely changed my opinion on it and now I just don’t know what to think tbh.

@kellyalves756

3 жыл бұрын

Specifically the Owl Theory seems to line up with the type of wounds Kathleen suffered. Forensics couldn’t seem make sense of them either in the context of a fall or an armed attack. Which makes me wonder: is it possible that Peterson heard her screaming and ignored it? Like, they were squabbling and he blew her off as being dramatic? So, not exactly guilty but not exactly innocent, which really does fit his reactions .

@mmrg666

3 жыл бұрын

@@kellyalves756 I agree completely! This was my exact thought. Maybe he ignored her because he was supposedly drunk, I believe. But could he really just ignore such screams of pain if this owl situation actually happened? I know there’s people that get very angry with this theory because they fully blame Michael, which is fine, everyone can have any theory. But we should take this owl situation very seriously because, as you said, it adds up 100% with the wounds. I don’t really remember Michael talking about this though. When all of this theory came up.

@carag2567

3 жыл бұрын

@@kellyalves756 I think the Owl Theory explains almost everything, including whether Michael would have heard Kathleen screaming (if she was). Her blood was found on the front doorstep and smeared inside the front door, indicating that the owl would have attacked her out front and probably just before she was about to re-enter the house. Michael was on the other side of the property - this is a mansion - in the backyard by the pool area, with the fountain on, and secluded behind a canopy of trees. It's very likely that if she were screaming, he would not have heard her.

@noraramos3798

3 жыл бұрын

I do believe Michael is guilty, but the owl feathers and subsequent owl theory is so interesting!! If I sat on the jury for this case, the owl theory would have served as reasonable doubt to me and I would have had to acquit because of the sliver of reasonable doubt the owl feathers brought to this case. I have no idea how they actually play into what happened to Kathleen, but based on Michael’s non verbal communication on top of statement analysis, I believe in my gut that he did it. This case is so crazy!! (I also don’t believe in coincidences, and the fact that another woman in his past died in the same manner is just too much. The improbability is mind boggling! )

@alieowens3549

3 жыл бұрын

@@noraramos3798 agree 100%!

I’m a children’s behavior therapist (ABA) and I am so fascinated by your videos! You have an excellent channel!

I left this as a response to a comment about autistics or other non nuerotypical people and reading their body language. I have HF autism and have children with autism. I learned how to “act” from watching film and theater. My father was a history teacher and used these things in his teaching and at home with me and my brother. I can’t read people at all. I’m completely face blind. I’ve been watching Observes videos in an effort to be able to read people better. I don’t believe non NT individuals have the same body language tells as a NT person. And I don’t believe we can be read except by someone who knows us extremely well. We are too caught up in the intense psychological processing in the moment in trying to read and process everything going on around us. In times of stress this gets much worse. I’d like to know if Mr. Observe has much experience with this. I would be a willing guinea pig.

@aarons1234

3 жыл бұрын

yeah I've always wondered if people find it as hard to read us as we do them, would only make sense

@teagenthetiefling5296

3 жыл бұрын

I want to point out that generally speaking we as a community are trying to move away from functioning labels. That aside I agree. Our nonverbal communication must be so different and I fear ever being interrogated because of the lack of respect for ND behavior.

@punkyfeathers1639

3 жыл бұрын

@@teagenthetiefling5296 You’re right. It is better not to use functional labels. In my case the high functioning label was used to deny services for a couple of my kid’s. I still get stuck mentally in them.

@teagenthetiefling5296

3 жыл бұрын

@@punkyfeathers1639 oh yeah I would never tell another autistic person how they should refer to themselves, but considering we generally love information I thought I would include a comment about functioning labels. I am so sorry to hear they were used against you and your children in that manner. Allistics should not be in positions of power re: our needs.

@punkyfeathers1639

3 жыл бұрын

@@teagenthetiefling5296 💖

I’m so ready for this video!! 😃 I loved watching The Staircase when it was first aired and the updates on Netflix. I can’t wait to see your input here Logan! 😃

He gives me the creeps. I know about this guy but even if I didn't he would still creep me out. It's a mix of his dead eyes stare and how he talks and what he says...he seem like the type to try to talk his way out of everything while doing something bad.

@Viraie

3 жыл бұрын

Same, he gives me Marshall Applewhite vibes.

@amberlytheharpyqueen

3 жыл бұрын

@@Viraie he does!

@Viraie

3 жыл бұрын

Applewhite was more delusional and surrounded by sycophants, it is hard to completely reach his creep levels.

@amberlytheharpyqueen

3 жыл бұрын

@@Viraie oh trust me, the more you watch this guy the creepier he gets.

I just feel wrong when he talks. It feels condescending, like he thinks he’s fooled us and wants to keep the attention on himself. Also, didn’t he brag about advocating for black people at one point in the documentary? And yet he had a firm belief in the justice system? Hmmm.. 🤔

@annacatherineandrews

3 жыл бұрын

TRUE. I felt that he added his beliefs in the justice system to gain sympathy for being “wrongfully charged” but he lied on himself! Whether he was lying about being an advocate or believing in the system who knows!

@steveleamont

3 жыл бұрын

I watched the documentary and I didn’t care for him at all. He seemed arrogant and just annoying. I did, however, believe him to be innocent. If I just watched this footage I’d believe him to be guilty.

I'll tell ya, I did watch The Staircase and while it was obviously biased towards Michael being innocent, it still left me with the opinion that he is guilty. Now seeing this video, I see I am not alone. I feel bad for the kids who all think he's innocent. His behavior and body language really gives me the creeps.

@SamanthaMagdalena

2 жыл бұрын

Omg was that doc aimed at him being innocent? 😂 I came out of it like, "dude killed his wife and his daughters are in on it."

@foxibot

2 жыл бұрын

His son just came out and said he killed their birth mother Patty too, for the money. He said he’s a serial killer, I hope he goes to police like he said he would. I felt so bad for his son who now sees who he really is. I couldn’t stand the Peterson. Too bad he got out of prison. Now he’s doing interviews on British tv denying he killed his wives or Liz Ratcliff. I couldn’t stand hearing him because he loves his own voice, loves to hear himself pontificate.

@foxibot

2 жыл бұрын

Here’s the link of the son calling him a serial killer. Wish someone would interview him. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZIJ9k5eLirGep7A.html

@wessmusic

2 жыл бұрын

@@foxibot I'm not going to go completely against you here, but I do want you to keep in mind that his son used to be a drugs and alcohol addict. The money he lived off of was largely by selling drugs and from his father. Now that he's stopped that and his father is distanced from him, I'm sure he'd wanna find the spotlight to see if he'd be able to make some profit off of it. Doesn't mean everything he's saying is necessarily untrue, but it's important context.

@wessmusic

2 жыл бұрын

It's hard to say exactly what his children were thinking, I'm sure there was some devide between them. A few interactions in the show seemed extremely forced and acted out, though it's understandable seeing as it's done in front of a camera

I haven't even reached the intro and I've already liked it... Logan, I'm here for it!

He gives me the energy of a kind, gentle grandpa (honestly reminds of my late pawpaw, which is sorta scary) and SEEMS sincere. Though people who don't scream danger and are that soft spoken can be the worst off camera and in real life so what do I know. I actually don't know anything about this case for once, so it's going to be interesting to discover why he is where he is.

@aviealien

3 жыл бұрын

If you have time, you should watch The Stair Case on Netflix! It’s a really interesting documentary and it gives you a good look into him as a person. I admit that I couldn’t help but like the guy - like you said, there’s just something about his energy. In the documentary, it was obvious the love he has for his children and his wife. I honestly don’t know where I stand when it comes to his involvement. Like you said, though, evil lurks in those we least expect!

@Strega_del_Corvo

3 жыл бұрын

Everybody seems so sure he’s guilty but I agree with you. He seems so sweet to me and I like him too. I have ADHD and I try to be very rational so sometimes I talk too much and can elaborate in an attempt to fully explain myself - a lot like he is doing. I will admit that I don’t k ow if he’s guilty or innocent-I’d love to say 100% but some of the details are sticky, however based off of reasonable doubt I think he should not have been convicted and I really hate how his sexuality became a huge topic of discussion. The ease of which he talks about his bisexuality doesn’t leave me to believe that was a motive.

@horrorgirl688

3 жыл бұрын

@@Strega_del_Corvo agreed...and I think he is innocent.

@rachaelreis6530

3 жыл бұрын

@@Strega_del_Corvo I hated that the whole trial was based on his sexuality. It was gross. I actually don't think hes innocent, but watching the trial is infuriating and I feel like it makes you root for him because of how homophobic the prosecution was.

@katrinamitchell2748

3 жыл бұрын

U should also watch Forensic Files on Netflix, they have an episode on this case that I reckon is better than the documentary The Staircase on it

Every question becomes a 5 min speech. He's trying to sound smart

@toni6490

2 жыл бұрын

No, he's a writer. A novelist at that. And he is smart, not trying to be smart, so it's natural.

Not relevant to this video but please, never stop doing the "other logans" bit. Love the way you include your own humour.

Logan, have you seen anything about the “owl theory” in relation to his wife’s death? It’s a doozy and would love to see that analyzed when Peterson talks about it.

@hatchet1013

3 жыл бұрын

Oh my goodness, yes the owl

@eveforsyth6727

3 жыл бұрын

This case is so weird 🤣 I wouldn't be surprised if the owl did it at this point 🤣

@mariee.5912

3 жыл бұрын

I don't buy his innocence. He's fishy to me. I watched the domentary and even if it was bias in his favor, I did buy it.

@WhoAmI2YouNow

3 жыл бұрын

What is the owl theory? Haha.. I would love to read about it, but I don't know what to google

@billpardy4094

3 жыл бұрын

@@WhoAmI2YouNow I believe the theory covers the possibility of a barn own flying in through a window, attacking Kathleen (or running into her) and knocking her down the stairs. I suppose that stranger things have happened in the history of humankind, but eh.

Idk if he's guilty, but something about dude gives me the creeps.

@wanderingstar5270

3 жыл бұрын

He is super creepy!

@sterlingcooper3978

3 жыл бұрын

Gut feelings are there for a reason

i LOVE how quickly we jumped into the video!!! started about a minute in, that’s pretty good for KZread 😜

I love the way you set up this video with having the full clip to start! Great content thank you!

I can’t get over your intro song it’s so cool 🎼🎷

He seems like someone who's used to telling stories. Just the way he speaks. Especially the hate speech. Edit: I deduced only one thing, but I was right, so hell yeah

@anac5656

3 жыл бұрын

I mean he’s an author so it’s kinda his job… I also hate the way he speaks

@IratePuffin

3 жыл бұрын

He speaks like someone who loves to hear the sound of his own voice and who thinks he’s smarter than everyone else.

@rjchavers9267

3 жыл бұрын

@@IratePuffin I agree with you.

Thank you again. These educational versions are great!

Wow!!!! Incredible format for fine tuning your teaching and our learning! Huge kudos and thanks!!

My dad was one of the first officers on the scene, drove him around, talked to him. He 100% believes Micheal is guilty. He saw him in traffic the other day, he was upset Micheal was out driving but Kathleen couldn’t…

@malloryjoiner8286

3 жыл бұрын

@erin hall: would love to hear more about your dad’s insights!

@wolfpackfan3

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting! My family friend has a son who was good friends with MP's growing up, and she never thought he was guilty or even capable of the crime! It's so hard to know the truth and it's so frustrating. This case is especially hard because MP speaks so convincingly.

@K119_

3 жыл бұрын

He’s out driving right now?

@erin_hall

3 жыл бұрын

@@K119_ “he saw him in traffic THE OTHER DAY”

@K119_

3 жыл бұрын

@@erin_hallno need to be rude, over miscommunication I meant right now, as in, the current time being he is not incarcerated? That was what I meant.

I've been waiting for this one🤩😤

I love the new format of letting us see the full clip and practice spotting the queues ourselves first. Very cool

I genuinely love when you do these! I really feel like I've learned so much and I don't have to rely solely on an easily tricked gut. These episodes really help me stretch that new muscle!

@Cove_Blue

3 жыл бұрын

Aw dang, I didn't remember his name but I do know this one. My family has bought his story, I never have.

YES I can't wait to watch this later, I've been fascinated by this case for a long time

@hannahk6006

3 жыл бұрын

It's really good!

His dripping narcissism is utterly disgusting. If this guy told me the night sky is full of stars I'd take a look for myself.

Normally I can come to some sort of intuitive/logical conclusion by the end of my research with true crime cases, but this one is just so bonkers I’m genuinely at a loss. I’m so excited you’re covering this!

I love this channel and I love the new format, it gives the audience a chance to absorb more before hearing your professional opinion and it also tells me as a viewer that you read comments, listen to your viewer's suggestions and adapt to what you think will best suit your channel. You are the real deal and I am learning so much. Thank you sir!

He says he doesn't hate anybody. Literally only liars say that. No honest person would ever make such an inherently untrue statement. Especially for the whole world to see.

@annacatherineandrews

3 жыл бұрын

When he said hate is a waste of emotions, it felt very much like he’s heard people say negative emotions are corrosive rather than those being his actual feelings

@iknowuthinkboutmeeverynigh336

3 жыл бұрын

why waste ur energy hating on things/people that don’t matter

it immediately stuck out to me the use of his storytelling/novelist background, especially when he referenced Tolstoy and him creating these extended metaphors. i'm also a writer and i've caught myself talking to my therapist using like ridiculous extended metaphors or referencing media to try and explain how i'm feeling. so i'm really really glad you brought that up as something in his baseline. but it still gave me pause to think i had literally anything in common with him lmao

Yay. I suggested this case. I’m sure other people did too but I’m happy he made a video on it. Thank you so much I was confused on read it by myself so this was helpful.

I am screaming right now, you did the one I recommended!!! 🙏 thank you, thank you! I’m sure I’m not the only one who brought this guy up, but excellent choice! Had to comment before watching because I got so excited.

You’d think, as a novelist, Peterson would understand that too much preachy exposition gets boring and causes audiences to lose interest in your story. I mean, if his goal is for his narrator to come off as a rather self-important guy who thinks he can teach people a valuable lesson while getting them on his side, then fine, keep the tangents and exposition. But then the exposition itself becomes part of the story about the narrator...as it has with him giving these answers. :P (Edited for pronoun agreement, because I don't want to say editor-y things and then not get basic pronoun agreement correct. Also, now I kinda want to read some of Peterson's writing, to see how he approaches narration there. Maybe I'll use the preview function on Amazon or something.)

@carag2567

3 жыл бұрын

I feel like there's a Stephen King joke in here somewhere. Can it be argued that audiences lost interest and got bored after the first three pages of Misery were dedicated to a description of what Annie's breath tasted like? Novelists gonna novel 😂

What was the most painful thing? Michael: Lemme brief you on quantum physics then the psychology of a human mind then call my wife ‘that’ and back to quantum mechanics we go 🤯

@QT5656

Жыл бұрын

I think he's referring to his "marriage" like he skipped part of the sentence he was thinking. I agree it's suspicious but I have friends and family who talk like that all the time. My mum in particular does it.

I squealed when I saw that you covered this. I love your channel as I'm fascinating by this non-verbal stuff.

YESSSSS omg so glad you’re covering this.

Shame the forensic scientist for the prosecution is now in jail for falsifying evidence. This is a really complicated case but my biased is towards guilt as previously mentioned

@cathyd74

3 жыл бұрын

The blood analysis he did for this case seemed flawed. There's a video of him trying to recreate a particular blood stain then cheering when sucessful

@AbbeyMarieEsp

3 жыл бұрын

@@cathyd74 That makes me legit laugh. Sounds like something out of the Simpsons. Very Lionel Hutz.

This whole video is giving me interactive Netflix special and I'm here for it

Once again, I love this new format. Thank you!!!

Love the format of these types of videos... thanks!