Dickens vs Tolstoy featuring Tom Hiddleston and Zawe Ashton

The Battle Of The Great 19th-century Novelists with Professor John Mullan arguing for Dickens and historian Simon Schama arguing for Tolstoy. Bringing their arguments to life with readings we had Tom Hiddleston, star of Marvel's Thor and The Avengers, and Zawe Ashton, acclaimed for her roles in Fresh Meat and Wanderlust. The debate was chaired by Bonnie Greer.
Dickens. Tolstoy. Their names and reputations shake the ground - and so do their books, if you drop one. They are the two greatest novelists from the century when novels were really great. Both captured their countries’ very souls and, as vastly influential social reformers, savagely criticised them as well. But whose legacy is more enduring? Whose vision truer and more relevant today? Should you embark on War and Peace or Our Mutual Friend?
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  • @juliastenberg1169
    @juliastenberg11693 жыл бұрын

    Let's be honest here. They knew exactly what they were doing when they put Tom Hiddleston in the thumbnail.

  • @thequeenofboba6583

    @thequeenofboba6583

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was looking for this comment. Yes.

  • @moonl0verr

    @moonl0verr

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lmao

  • @lbdj9367

    @lbdj9367

    3 жыл бұрын

    i know right?

  • @AnaVerona_

    @AnaVerona_

    3 жыл бұрын

    No doubt.

  • @mmw55122

    @mmw55122

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes. However, when I saw his photo along with the title I did not think of Loki (of whom I am a big fan.) Instead, I harkened to the serious and award-winning stage work he has done. And when I saw the rest of his company I was hooked and very much enjoyed the entire lecture/performance.

  • @motherchaos
    @motherchaos5 жыл бұрын

    I think Hiddleston has a future as a teacher of the classics if he ever decides to hang up the acting hat.

  • @heathercontois4501

    @heathercontois4501

    5 жыл бұрын

    I would trade countries and go back to school just for that.

  • @ironvlogger9712

    @ironvlogger9712

    5 жыл бұрын

    That he would, that he would

  • @viceliag3916

    @viceliag3916

    5 жыл бұрын

    He really does. His enthusiasm for classical literature is pretty much unrivaled. It'd probably be a really fun class, tbh.

  • @kccgurl

    @kccgurl

    5 жыл бұрын

    There seems to be some confusion in the replies to this. His degree in classics is Classics as in the sense of Greco-Roman literature and history, not what we consider classical literature, not anything that really has to do with debate.

  • @HaiLeQuang

    @HaiLeQuang

    5 жыл бұрын

    Damn. He looks great. I guarantee no student would be able to concentrate in his class.

  • @juliesteimle3867
    @juliesteimle38675 жыл бұрын

    I am so glad Tom Hiddleston still does stuff like this. I like him in his movies, but I think he shines best in the classics.

  • @revaakardak9871

    @revaakardak9871

    5 жыл бұрын

    He is one such classy himself 😎

  • @jccurran9327

    @jccurran9327

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, Mr. Timothy West - Great Actor!

  • @SS-nx2xx

    @SS-nx2xx

    4 жыл бұрын

    Tolstoy and Dickens are not classics...they were written in the Victorian period

  • @kolya727

    @kolya727

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SS-nx2xx They obviously meant classic novels...

  • @user-bh1tb9em1q

    @user-bh1tb9em1q

    3 жыл бұрын

    Tbh Hiddleston is not that great of an actor. I mean, at the war horse it was so bad it was painful to watch. It was a running joke that the horse acted better

  • @JokerLurver
    @JokerLurver5 жыл бұрын

    I'm a simple woman. I see Tom, I click. Never disappointed.

  • @johnnyjohnny998

    @johnnyjohnny998

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, you do sound pretty simple.

  • @user-vu2ge2ww5y

    @user-vu2ge2ww5y

    4 жыл бұрын

    classic.

  • @schoolcoach1

    @schoolcoach1

    3 жыл бұрын

    😆 LOL good point!

  • @jasminepoupore3870

    @jasminepoupore3870

    3 жыл бұрын

    this.

  • @yennefeer7023

    @yennefeer7023

    2 жыл бұрын

    How relatable :D haha.. Tom is one of the best

  • @xuenli4975
    @xuenli49753 жыл бұрын

    i feel smart and stupid at the same time while watching this.

  • @heavenshaffer

    @heavenshaffer

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed

  • @geniusonyeo

    @geniusonyeo

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree 🥴👍

  • @marilirosales1281

    @marilirosales1281

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same

  • @loki_is_fav213

    @loki_is_fav213

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same

  • @lulu-kz5gf

    @lulu-kz5gf

    2 жыл бұрын

    Why would you feel stupid? If you're enjoying it it doesn't matter.

  • @st4nkpu55y4
    @st4nkpu55y45 жыл бұрын

    if i got a penny for everytime i've watched something i wouldn't normally watch because tom was in it, i'd be a millionare.

  • @silverhawking

    @silverhawking

    5 жыл бұрын

    Same here. Actually, quite possibly more than that. I spend a lot of time watching things I wouldn't normally watch because he's in them.

  • @HawkinaBox

    @HawkinaBox

    5 жыл бұрын

    LMAO

  • @plls2880

    @plls2880

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@silverhawking Same.

  • @shh11111

    @shh11111

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lol true, i would never watch anything like this, but clicked because of tom. Whoever decided to put his face on thumbnail did a great job.

  • @annle2515

    @annle2515

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well, if it will bring someone to Tolstoy it is good-). I actually always wonder, why people consider War and Peace hard to read, sophisticated etc. in Russian-speaking countries we have (at least we had, ... ) to read it in school and damn idiots kept complaining that W and P it is too long. Whereas apparently War and Peace is as entertaining as Game of Thrones. Battles, noble families, charismatic and diverse characters, historical stuff, all that. And whereas War and Peace is entertaining his short stories and novels are heartbreaking, he gives this image of social inequality and absurdity of the war with such passion and such high-quality art; I remember starting reading these short novels/stories accidentally, they r not as have-to-read as War and Peace; so I've just found the book with his short novels on the bookshelf and Haji Murat makes reader to shiver, this scene of aul (village) devastation...even in English translation... is so powerful...as the whole Haji Murat novel itself...I think when Hiddleston was reading this part of Haji Murat it was possible to see how listeners hold their breath...and also all his short stories about Crimean war. And Tolstoy actually is more pleasant to read than Dostoevsky, because he is kinder to all of his characters. He always tries to show the lighter side, like for example Anatol in War and Peace is a nastiest jerk possible, but when he suffers terribly (they are cutting his leg without anesthesia) in the hospital we can see how pain turns him (the nastier human being in the book) into just a suffering human and we stop hating him as well as Andrey stops to hate him. And importantly the quality of Tolstoy prose loses nothing when translated into English, because his prose is just so humane and universal and powerful and easy to translate...

  • @DanyAguilerastudios
    @DanyAguilerastudios5 жыл бұрын

    I came here for Tom Hiddleston, I stay for the performances.

  • @DanyAguilerastudios

    @DanyAguilerastudios

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Reema Ameer I've seen him too (even noticed the moment when he took off his jacket)

  • @carly2308

    @carly2308

    5 жыл бұрын

    Reema Ameer you can never miss a hiddleston

  • @katearcher8514

    @katearcher8514

    5 жыл бұрын

    Precisely

  • @oleksandras8300

    @oleksandras8300

    5 жыл бұрын

    Same mate

  • @this_mundane_life
    @this_mundane_life3 жыл бұрын

    Everyone: I came for Tom Me: I see Tolstoy I click

  • @levinkonstantin5025

    @levinkonstantin5025

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hahahhaha thats me

  • @cotbegemot1

    @cotbegemot1

    3 жыл бұрын

    same

  • @ninaturovskiy5319

    @ninaturovskiy5319

    3 жыл бұрын

    I came here for all three... 😶

  • @user-tk1ef2pt8t

    @user-tk1ef2pt8t

    2 жыл бұрын

    Me:I see Charles Dickens I click😂

  • @user-qv7qd5ez4j

    @user-qv7qd5ez4j

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same! 😂

  • @gracelynnguyen1884
    @gracelynnguyen18845 жыл бұрын

    So I’m one of the more annoying people who came because I saw Tom Hiddleston

  • @heheidk6669

    @heheidk6669

    5 жыл бұрын

    FAIRY TAIL SQUAD 👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆

  • @moonwavex

    @moonwavex

    5 жыл бұрын

    same. i literally didn’t know what it was about but i saw tom so i clicked

  • @AnjanaBSubba

    @AnjanaBSubba

    5 жыл бұрын

    Count me in too.

  • @zuraidazakaria7419

    @zuraidazakaria7419

    5 жыл бұрын

    You are not alone. I saw Tom Hiddleston I clicked.If that makes me shallow so be it lol

  • @paulinacalquin7208

    @paulinacalquin7208

    5 жыл бұрын

    OMG MEE TOOO!!! BUT IT WAS VERY INTERESTING though becouse am reader and I have read both tolstoi and Dickens.. But as soon as I saw Tom I just cliked fast as I could!!! And his voice reading it was heaven!!!

  • @erikapeterson7347
    @erikapeterson73475 жыл бұрын

    I'm a huge Hiddleston fan and love that he does these. It brings literature, plays, etc that normally fans wouldn't know to a wider audience.

  • @heathercontois4501

    @heathercontois4501

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes, indeed.

  • @ceemam1039

    @ceemam1039

    5 жыл бұрын

    Did he do any others? If so, could someone PLEASE tell me some? I need more.

  • @julesfairfax5623

    @julesfairfax5623

    3 жыл бұрын

    Y e s!

  • @michaelsalisbury1477

    @michaelsalisbury1477

    2 жыл бұрын

    Who,? Tom who?

  • @HB-rx1le

    @HB-rx1le

    Жыл бұрын

    I only knew him as a poetry reader originally, had no idea he was an actor when I first stumbled across his readings years ago. I still don't know that I've ever seen anything he's been in, but I also love that some people who may have never been interested in certain literary works may have been introduced to them because of him, Helena Bonham Carter, Jeremy Irons, Michael Caine, and others who do these kinds of panels and readings.

  • @ThatRandomGirlAndrea
    @ThatRandomGirlAndrea2 жыл бұрын

    No wonder Zawe and Tom are dating, they're both classic literature nerds and amazing actors. Good on them!

  • @natyvasova90
    @natyvasova904 жыл бұрын

    Tom: "abandon everything and fly away with me" Me: Yes

  • @Lana_S-ova
    @Lana_S-ova5 жыл бұрын

    I am Russian, never ever heard Tolstoy in English before. Wow! It was very interesting and absolutely unique experience for me.

  • @MJ-py7ml

    @MJ-py7ml

    5 жыл бұрын

    Я думала я одна такая)))😂 Привет, русский человек)

  • @nuri2318

    @nuri2318

    5 жыл бұрын

    Does English translation do justice to original? Which one is better..?

  • @aiymrakhmetzhanova2595

    @aiymrakhmetzhanova2595

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@nuri2318 original is way more better

  • @annatamparow4917

    @annatamparow4917

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, but Dostoyevsky is more intuitive, better at everything, not a dilettante, like the dear Count!

  • @Lana_S-ova

    @Lana_S-ova

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MJ-py7ml 👋

  • @itgirl9641
    @itgirl96413 жыл бұрын

    You can't just choose one. Dickens vs Tolstoy, is just like... Tom Hiddleston or Benedict Cumberbatch, you can't just choose one because they both brilliant

  • @cotbegemot1

    @cotbegemot1

    3 жыл бұрын

    great comparison

  • @lorenaisabelmorenorios1478

    @lorenaisabelmorenorios1478

    3 жыл бұрын

    totally agree, lol

  • @Dany-yc7uh

    @Dany-yc7uh

    3 жыл бұрын

    Crap they are perfect 🥰

  • @vbvamsi17

    @vbvamsi17

    2 жыл бұрын

    True that's right 🤩

  • @respect6451

    @respect6451

    2 жыл бұрын

    DICKENS

  • @jamako732
    @jamako7325 жыл бұрын

    Came here for the debate and was surprised to see Hiddleston on the stage; on this note: Damn it, Tom, you handsome bastard.

  • @TianaLuo

    @TianaLuo

    3 жыл бұрын

    Right, everyone else came for him and I didn't even notice the thumbnail. Glad Tolstoy won.

  • @ozsfi

    @ozsfi

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TianaLuo Same here , I came for the debate and then noticed Tom was there. Maybe it was the selection but for me Tolstoy won.

  • @miimoz1407
    @miimoz14075 жыл бұрын

    Time stamps! Charles Dickens (12:48-18:40) Great Expectations performed by Zawe Ashton, Timothy West, and Kit Kingsley. (21:10-22:55) Bleak House performed by Tom Hiddleston (25:10-30:25) Great Expectations performed by Zawe Ashton, Julia Sawalha, and Timothy West. (33:15-37:55) David Copperfield performed by Zawe Ashton, Julia Sawalha, Timothy West, and Kit Kingsley. Leo Tolstoy (44:45-47:25) Hadji Murat performed by Tom Hiddleston (53:23-58:38) Anna Karenina performed by Julia Sawalha and Zawe Ashton (1:00:12-1:04:50) Anna Karenina performed by Tom Hiddleston and Julia Sawalha (1:06:00-1:10:20) Anna Karenina performed by Tom Hiddleston and Zawe Ashton (1:13:02-1:19:40) War and Peace performed by Tom Hiddleston and Zawe Ashton

  • @Whitneypyant

    @Whitneypyant

    5 жыл бұрын

    Em Cee thanks

  • @mena5090

    @mena5090

    5 жыл бұрын

    Wow thank you, this is exceptionally helpful👏🏼💕

  • @silverhawking

    @silverhawking

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much! I really, really needed this.

  • @lltbcke

    @lltbcke

    5 жыл бұрын

    You're a hero. Thanks!

  • @mijadane

    @mijadane

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @floren3576
    @floren3576 Жыл бұрын

    Woah, I'm blown away by Zawe. Her voice is so melodious, I love it.

  • @ailaniwilliams1081
    @ailaniwilliams10815 жыл бұрын

    WOOOOOOOW😯That young boys performance was INCREDIBLE there is almost no words to Express how good he is

  • @ezrak.334

    @ezrak.334

    3 жыл бұрын

    I agree! hope he has an acting career ahead of him

  • @jeannegallegos8410

    @jeannegallegos8410

    2 жыл бұрын

    You will probably never read this, but here goes: 1, I agree, the very young man 👨 has a very strong & very good career ahead of him, possibly a great career, that supports that talent. 2. Hiddleston, so very gifted, is in a company of other very great talents. Iron sharpening iron, i.e. giving wonderful performances because one is in the great talents. Support and encouragement (even competitions) to do even better than you've done before. 3. See how wonderful the classics are with marvelous 😍 acting? Americans do not have a real grasp of the classics, or they would be performed much more, everywhere. And young people would be frequently treated to them on stage, in movies & television, and on the radio. I don't suppose drama classes are given in schools anymore; giving school plays of Dickens, Tolstoy, Shakespear, Chekov, all the Great Ones. Plays like The Glass Menagerie, Richard III... We all learn so much from them, help us to look at who & what we are, help us develope self-insight and sensitivity to others. We have dumbed down as a group of humans.

  • @sohaeihab2485

    @sohaeihab2485

    2 жыл бұрын

    i was litterly looking for this comment , the young man actually nailed the acting and was so muture through out the debate which is so admirable kudos to him

  • @lenazhou7335

    @lenazhou7335

    2 жыл бұрын

    Extremely impressive ! I couldn't agree more

  • @monika-lj9ci
    @monika-lj9ci4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I love Tom too but can we talk about how awesome Zawe Ashton is here?

  • @c4ward1

    @c4ward1

    2 жыл бұрын

    All the actors are top notch!

  • @gabisasantos

    @gabisasantos

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes!

  • @stevelaul5041

    @stevelaul5041

    2 жыл бұрын

    Never liked her acting.

  • @daisy7066

    @daisy7066

    2 жыл бұрын

    Dreadful monotone acting, especially in contrast to Julia S.

  • @deadpxn3517

    @deadpxn3517

    2 жыл бұрын

    She's great but Velvet Buzzsaw was terrible

  • @poetryqn
    @poetryqn5 жыл бұрын

    My personal opinion is that Dickens is much better at writing joy, while Tolstoy is a master of suffering. That is not to say that either is poor at the opposite emotion; just that it's like comparing a great rock guitarist with a spectacular concert pianist: they are different pleasures for me.

  • @lukaszurov

    @lukaszurov

    5 жыл бұрын

    Dostoevsky is a true master of suffering, don't ever try reading him while having any symptoms of depression. Tolstoy is more of a moralist, especially after going vegeterian

  • @katezebra7488

    @katezebra7488

    5 жыл бұрын

    Popular opinion in Russia is that Tolstoy have much «water» in his works .

  • @tontelion

    @tontelion

    5 жыл бұрын

    Kate Zebra not “water”, but gigantic expositions and extremely large sentences

  • @teresayeates8327

    @teresayeates8327

    5 жыл бұрын

    Dickens and joy are oxymorons. Even his children's stories are depressing, the children die.

  • @lukaszurov

    @lukaszurov

    5 жыл бұрын

    @sochuiwon priscilla I think there should be a warning on his books 'not suitable for those in depression'

  • @radhikaj1167
    @radhikaj11672 жыл бұрын

    No wonder Tom is dating Zawe. They both can talk about classics and theatre for their rest of their lives without being tired ❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @RosesNightengales

    @RosesNightengales

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m so happy for Tom and Zawe! Things are going so well for him! He’s engaged to her and she’s pregnant now with his child ❤️

  • @shxholistic2502
    @shxholistic25025 жыл бұрын

    Came to appreciate Tom Hiddleston, stayed to appreciate the other incredible players. Great company indeed. Such extraordinary performances.

  • @Scotchism
    @Scotchism5 жыл бұрын

    Dostoevsky: Hold my beer...

  • @annatamparow4917

    @annatamparow4917

    3 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely! Crime and Punishment, The Idiot, The Devils and Brothers Karamazov are the greatest crime mysteries in the entire Russian literature. That being said, I read War and Peace once a year, omitting all the Masonic chapters!

  • @Chi-np2lz

    @Chi-np2lz

    3 жыл бұрын

    Dostoevsky: Hold my fear-stricken guilt

  • @tripp8833

    @tripp8833

    3 жыл бұрын

    His characters are unrealistic to me

  • @nikolozjalabadze

    @nikolozjalabadze

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tripp8833 That's because you don't know Russian Society. Those unrealistic characters are very realistic to Russians and surrounding countries(because of the occupation). I don't know where you are from, but I'm speaking as Georgian(Country).

  • @tripp8833

    @tripp8833

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@nikolozjalabadze I doubt alyosha or prince Myshkin are realistic characters. Sorry. Never been to Russia but I bet they're still human at the end of the day

  • @aishwaryasrivastava6181
    @aishwaryasrivastava61815 жыл бұрын

    I always knew Tolstoy would win. There is something raw about his writing that just resonates with everybody. Also, Tom Hiddleston my love thanks for choosing Tolstoy.

  • @tusharmusale8739

    @tusharmusale8739

    5 жыл бұрын

    Spoilers, ahem

  • @Weronika-ev4gp

    @Weronika-ev4gp

    5 жыл бұрын

    I was so happy he chose him! I voted for Tolstoy since the beginning. All the respect for great Dickens though. :)

  • @aishwaryasrivastava6181

    @aishwaryasrivastava6181

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Weronika-ev4gp yeah same.. I love Dickens too. A tale of two cities is one of my favourite books but Tolstoy wins my heart.

  • @aishwaryasrivastava6181

    @aishwaryasrivastava6181

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@tusharmusale8739 oops, sorry 😅

  • @annatamparow4917

    @annatamparow4917

    3 жыл бұрын

    What? The dilettante Count won? We needed Dostoyevsky urgently!

  • @aleksandrasrimdzius
    @aleksandrasrimdzius5 жыл бұрын

    Great moderator, great panel, awesome vibe, even the fact that you are spending good 90 minutes whatching quality stuff about 19 century literary greats in 21 century feels like a rebelion .

  • @msship8234

    @msship8234

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well, let me join in

  • @msship8234

    @msship8234

    5 жыл бұрын

    ¡Viva la Revolución!

  • @Elizakmx

    @Elizakmx

    5 жыл бұрын

    You are so accurate! Bravo

  • @zirafe
    @zirafe5 жыл бұрын

    i came here for Tom Hiddleston, stayed for Tolstoy.

  • @cotbegemot1

    @cotbegemot1

    3 жыл бұрын

    same :)

  • @mistynightsky2503
    @mistynightsky25034 жыл бұрын

    There is nothing better than a middle-aged, good-looking man who is into classic literature and has an accent. I am dead

  • @doodlelulu2178
    @doodlelulu21783 жыл бұрын

    The birth scene was so epic. They did so good on their act. They’re all so good lol.

  • @pipinm2214

    @pipinm2214

    2 жыл бұрын

    They really did.

  • @ev_mom2657

    @ev_mom2657

    Жыл бұрын

    Now it's going to really happen

  • @tatianadavidson4329

    @tatianadavidson4329

    Жыл бұрын

    When life imitates art…

  • @myt.nguyen7661
    @myt.nguyen76613 жыл бұрын

    47:34 I really enjoy the way Mr. Schaman holding Tolstoy's works with lots of bookmarks. It shows his passion for Tolstoy and adds more validity in his speech.

  • @TriploGoofus
    @TriploGoofus2 жыл бұрын

    Joy, great joy that Tom Hiddleston finally found a woman to love who is exactly as geeky as him.

  • @ShaynaSKZ_685

    @ShaynaSKZ_685

    5 ай бұрын

    Hahar yes 😊

  • @mariazahedi7444
    @mariazahedi74444 жыл бұрын

    That little boy was amazing. He's so cute and talented.

  • @natashapovalova7399
    @natashapovalova73995 жыл бұрын

    it is wonderful to see a famous actor taking part in such event. Tom is always perfect and wonderful.He is a smart and intelligent person

  • @heathercontois4501
    @heathercontois45015 жыл бұрын

    I saw Tom participating in Dickens vs Tolstoy. Once I realized they had them being read against each other, my nerd girl got all happy and stayed for the entirety.

  • @Zewnep
    @Zewnep5 жыл бұрын

    Well I'm a simple girl. I saw Tom Hiddleston, I jumped in.

  • @MonnamiePhannPhann
    @MonnamiePhannPhann Жыл бұрын

    And now they are having a BABY!!

  • @audraelynnegrimmelhaussen8808
    @audraelynnegrimmelhaussen88085 жыл бұрын

    And this is why I adore this man so much. He's not just a pretty face but has a brilliant mind as well as a generous heart.

  • @lizziebooth5397

    @lizziebooth5397

    5 жыл бұрын

    Have you ever told Simon how you feel?

  • @audraelynnegrimmelhaussen8808

    @audraelynnegrimmelhaussen8808

    5 жыл бұрын

    sorry, who? :)

  • @amandaperez8776

    @amandaperez8776

    5 жыл бұрын

    so you wrote this and the only thing I could think about was Tom hiddleston :)

  • @audraelynnegrimmelhaussen8808

    @audraelynnegrimmelhaussen8808

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@amandaperez8776 he's exactly who I was talking about

  • @heathercontois4501

    @heathercontois4501

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's why we love him so much.

  • @calibanxpable
    @calibanxpable3 жыл бұрын

    I dont understand why there has to be a battle. Literature is a calm and lush garden. Let's enjoy all of it.

  • @mosart7025

    @mosart7025

    3 жыл бұрын

    Obviously people love contests and "conflict". Would this many people have shown up if it was one professor giving a lecture? At least it is exposing thousands of people to 2 amazing authors they might never have heard of or read.

  • @112steinway

    @112steinway

    3 жыл бұрын

    With all due respect, I wholeheartedly disagree. Literature is a battlefield where words are ammunition and authors are soldiers ripping at each other's throats for the public's attention and praise.

  • @calibanxpable

    @calibanxpable

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@112steinway I will keep friends with you.

  • @jellalfernandes1309

    @jellalfernandes1309

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed. I am enjoying it too. I love both, can never choose anyway😁

  • @yennefeer7023

    @yennefeer7023

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's not a battle :D It is a debate. In which people culturaly talk about their opinions, is it not? :D

  • @mariat.1442
    @mariat.14425 жыл бұрын

    Everything from the arguments and the analysis provided by those two brilliant pofessors, to the actors' performances was a real joy to witness. Dickens, Tolstoy, John Mullan, Simon Schama, Tom Hiddleston. What a spectacular combination of remarkable people. Thank you for sharing this!

  • @irEyERWO
    @irEyERWO5 жыл бұрын

    Though I obviously came here for Tom Hiddleston, I was pleasantly surprised to see Julia Sawalha, who I knew from BBC's Pride and Prejudice.

  • @neptoon928

    @neptoon928

    3 жыл бұрын

    Aaah I knew she looked familiar

  • @19910601wsj
    @19910601wsj3 жыл бұрын

    Saw Tom Hiddleston on Broadway. Such a gentleman and absolutely charming.

  • @katearcher8514
    @katearcher85145 жыл бұрын

    It looks like Tom's had his own kind of catharsis and revelation after reading that bit about Pierre.

  • @EntertainmentOfGameAndWatch

    @EntertainmentOfGameAndWatch

    2 жыл бұрын

    Loki!

  • @mariasaiz501
    @mariasaiz501 Жыл бұрын

    I came for Tom but Zawe is AMAZING!!!

  • @fanofmanythings7717
    @fanofmanythings77175 жыл бұрын

    This is one of the most intellectual videos I've ever seen, and one of the most British videos as well. Edit: At the end of each performance of both Dickens and Tolstoy I have come to the conclusion that I can not choose who is I guess better. They are both brilliant writers.

  • @elensila74
    @elensila745 жыл бұрын

    This battle was such an absolute privilege to watch in person. Thank you for the epic debate to the participants and for the fantastic entertainment to the actors. I am happy for the opportunity to watch this over and over again. :)

  • @vaibhavgupta20

    @vaibhavgupta20

    5 жыл бұрын

    where did it take place? how much does it cost?

  • @Weronika-ev4gp

    @Weronika-ev4gp

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@vaibhavgupta20 London, 30 pounds

  • @user-nh2vm3eb2x
    @user-nh2vm3eb2x5 жыл бұрын

    I confess that I came here for Tom Hiddleston, but Julia Sawalha is so underrated

  • @barbarastrong1279

    @barbarastrong1279

    3 жыл бұрын

    So underrated!

  • @marshallzane7735
    @marshallzane77354 жыл бұрын

    I was so happy when Hiddleston said Tolstoy was his favorite at the end

  • @annatamparow4917

    @annatamparow4917

    3 жыл бұрын

    Marshall Zane Quite disgraceful for someone who read Classics at university: Dostoyevsky, Turgenev and Gogol needed honourable mentions, too!

  • @callmeani6195
    @callmeani61955 жыл бұрын

    Kit Kingsley is such a great actor allready. I hope to see more of him as he grows up.

  • @cezarcaruntu
    @cezarcaruntu5 жыл бұрын

    And the winner is... Dostoevsky.

  • @Kitsune-ld8ry

    @Kitsune-ld8ry

    4 жыл бұрын

    Exactly what I have thought)))

  • @annatamparow4917

    @annatamparow4917

    3 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely! His novels and Pushkin's works are the pinnacles of Russian literature!

  • @yevheniishyshko7961

    @yevheniishyshko7961

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@annatamparow4917 "You and Thou" is hilarious though.

  • @annle2515

    @annle2515

    3 жыл бұрын

    No he is not. Tolstoy is a complete winner.

  • @annle2515

    @annle2515

    3 жыл бұрын

    @wings of a butterfly have you ever read Tolstoy and Dostoevsky? I bet u never did. Probably you have heard somewhere about Dostoevsky so now u r just pretending that you have read it. Lol. You, with your walnut-sized brain are capable only of reading comic books for kids (well, I doubt even that).

  • @xxxRoseQueenxxx
    @xxxRoseQueenxxx4 жыл бұрын

    When books are read aloud the weight of emotion is so heavy and beautiful. It's like the sound of an old friend but with a new face.

  • @TheEsy1990
    @TheEsy19905 жыл бұрын

    I have to admit I've never read Tolstoy. After this debate I will definitely check him out. I love the debate and both gentlemen. They debated beautifully. The cast performed beautifully. I am grateful that this video was uploaded for us to watch.

  • @CaliforniaGirl-qk5kq

    @CaliforniaGirl-qk5kq

    5 жыл бұрын

    First see movies - Anna Karenina and War and Peace. Tolstoy is Russian, and not Jewish writer and presenter did him disservice. Shama used stage to present his propaganda and not Tolstoy brilliance, In his introductory statement Shama said that he prefers Dickens to Tolstoy, so why he was selected to present Tolstoy?.

  • @TheEsy1990

    @TheEsy1990

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@CaliforniaGirl-qk5kq Thank you so much. I will definitely check out those movies.

  • @jennyrotten6354

    @jennyrotten6354

    5 жыл бұрын

    emily yarbrough Anna Karenina! It’s wonderful

  • @1828tolstoy

    @1828tolstoy

    4 жыл бұрын

    Check out Resurection

  • @celestryrose6687

    @celestryrose6687

    2 жыл бұрын

    Maybe because I'm older I should try Anna Karenina again. I tried many times as a teen. I just couldnt get past the first part.

  • @jessalyngriswold5843
    @jessalyngriswold5843 Жыл бұрын

    Watching this when it first came out, I’m not surprised Tom and Zawe became a couple. They have soo much chemistry here.

  • @followingthefire

    @followingthefire

    Жыл бұрын

    There are pictures of Tom speaking to Zawe's father at this event, I'm convinced they were already dating especially if you look at pictures from them at a Pinter event a few weeks prior

  • @cassandraerdman7144
    @cassandraerdman71445 жыл бұрын

    Bleak House is one of the books by Dickens I actually enjoyed. But Tolstoy just resonates with me. I remember reading Anna Karenina in a Russian literature course at university and just being blown away at Tolstoy's ability to capture human emotion. Actually, all of the Russian writers are brilliant. Dostoevsky is my personal favorite. Chekhov gave us great plays and the awesome rule of writing now termed "Chekhov's gun." Turgenev is a lesser known writer who packs a powerful wallop in Fathers and Sons. I could go on.

  • @yasiradoluweera4693

    @yasiradoluweera4693

    5 жыл бұрын

    Tolstoy of course

  • @sandjoons

    @sandjoons

    3 жыл бұрын

    Is that you in your profile picture?

  • @user-fm3ti6eg1d

    @user-fm3ti6eg1d

    3 жыл бұрын

    Let me just hug you, wonderful person!

  • @cassandraerdman7144

    @cassandraerdman7144

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sandjoons Yeah, that's me with Tom.

  • @cassandraerdman7144

    @cassandraerdman7144

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@user-fm3ti6eg1d Sure, I'll take any digital hug! LOL

  • @aquarianlove1787
    @aquarianlove17874 жыл бұрын

    I love Tom's and Zawe's chemistry.

  • @maggiemcfly5267

    @maggiemcfly5267

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm pretty sure they love it too 😂😉

  • @MsJovi102

    @MsJovi102

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@maggiemcfly5267 LOL 😆

  • @indiesilverlady

    @indiesilverlady

    2 жыл бұрын

    Me too! Now they deservedly live happily ever after!💖 I feel they are made for each other especially when portraying flawlessly Pierre and Natasha in the reading of War and Peace!🥰👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 However, the paparazzi should leave them alone🙄😔

  • @eck2x
    @eck2x5 жыл бұрын

    Tom Hiddleston is a National Treasure ❤️

  • @valka8355
    @valka83555 жыл бұрын

    Том Хиддлстон читает Толстого, нашу родную "Войну и мир", да ещё как читает! Что на свете может быть прекраснее?! *Реву от умиления*

  • @user-ef3yf9hk1w

    @user-ef3yf9hk1w

    3 жыл бұрын

    это Анна Каренина

  • @user-xx3el9eh8d

    @user-xx3el9eh8d

    3 жыл бұрын

    «Война и Мир» тоже были))).

  • @user-uc1cr5hp9n

    @user-uc1cr5hp9n

    3 жыл бұрын

    и Хаджи Мурат был нет ?

  • @elizabethhomer8035
    @elizabethhomer80355 жыл бұрын

    A "fog off"! Lol! Perfect! And I love watching Tom's face in the background as he watches the other performers.

  • @LadyDragoncat
    @LadyDragoncat5 жыл бұрын

    You know you're a great actor, when you get "thumbs up" from Tom Hiddleston.

  • @NotSpockToo
    @NotSpockToo4 жыл бұрын

    If Tom ever decides to become a Professor of Classics (his degree) or Literature, I will move to whatever city he's teaching in and enroll in his classes!

  • @elirien4264
    @elirien42645 жыл бұрын

    Hiddles aside, that is, focusing on the conversation and not fan-girling, I realize that I much prefer Tolstoy's writing to Dickens.

  • @user-wn6gm7gg2r
    @user-wn6gm7gg2r5 жыл бұрын

    But you cannot choose between the two authors because both are amazing. You just can't.

  • @wonka3209

    @wonka3209

    3 жыл бұрын

    You easily can. If you read their works properly and not engaging in demagogy.

  • @DinaraTengri
    @DinaraTengri4 жыл бұрын

    58:27 Tom is really feeling it.

  • @Lucia-1414
    @Lucia-14142 жыл бұрын

    My teen son likes super heroes although he said “ boring” he continued watching as he was seeing Loki in a different way, great way to introduce classic to young generation. Brilliant

  • @selena-9841
    @selena-98415 жыл бұрын

    Oh wow I clicked because I saw Tom Hiddleston but it's midnight and this is 1 hour and a half long and he wants us to take care of ourselves so guess I'm getting a good night of sleep and watching this while I eat breakfast tomorrow

  • @soupsoupsoup1402
    @soupsoupsoup1402 Жыл бұрын

    58:25 i think they just captured the moment tom fell in love with zawe🥺❤️❤️look at his bottom lip shivering seeing her so sad😭😍

  • @jabee7846
    @jabee7846 Жыл бұрын

    Came here for Tom, but found Zawe. Grate job you guy's 👏👏👏👏all of you.👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👍👍

  • @elainagilbert7663
    @elainagilbert76635 жыл бұрын

    I loved that this debate was perfectly rational and both "opponents" not only liked both sides of the argument but liked each other. They were polite and convincing. I needed this passion to get me interested in reading either author again. I struggled with liking Dickens for a long time and Tolstoy was someone I keep picking up and giving up on. This is helpful to inspire me to continue through them.

  • @vaibhavgupta20
    @vaibhavgupta205 жыл бұрын

    that lady who is playing kitty a is very good actor.

  • @SJ-is2os

    @SJ-is2os

    5 жыл бұрын

    And yet Zawe Ashton didn't move you enough to get her name. ;)

  • @vaibhavgupta20

    @vaibhavgupta20

    5 жыл бұрын

    have seen her anywhere else?

  • @harlinaindra4899

    @harlinaindra4899

    5 жыл бұрын

    She will play the wife of Tom Hiddleston's character in Hiddleston's next stage performance

  • @helenab9973

    @helenab9973

    5 жыл бұрын

    I disagree, she didn't play Kitty well. If you read the book , Kitty is very young at that moment and her intonations should be more soft, and she should have more of aristocratic bearing. The actors performance and intonations are too modern and they fail to transmit the vibe of the Russian aristocrats.

  • @aprofessionalmemer2972

    @aprofessionalmemer2972

    5 жыл бұрын

    I agree

  • @munmunsinha93
    @munmunsinha935 жыл бұрын

    Tom... Tom... Tom!!! 😍😍😍

  • @macklinillustration
    @macklinillustration5 жыл бұрын

    I was in the audience for this, it was such an awesome night. Was a shame the ballot box came around before the debate was truly over. The reading & performance of Levin & Kitty's birth scene, I believe, was what swung it.

  • @May04bwu
    @May04bwu5 жыл бұрын

    This just made me realize something. I never felt the need to fight for or defend my opinion when it comes to art I enjoy. So many people do this, especially these days online, but I feel quite content liking what I like and not having anyone giving me reasons why I am wrong to like that particular piece of art. It has become so normal for us to let strangers form our opinions and taste that this realization is almost liberating.

  • @Krishnamahali
    @Krishnamahali5 жыл бұрын

    Tom Hiddleston is absolutely an excellent actor.

  • @danguolekrevskaja9440
    @danguolekrevskaja94405 жыл бұрын

    1:33:10 Tom : "Tolstoy " *mid finger for all Dickens'es * 😂

  • @hannahopstekop
    @hannahopstekop2 жыл бұрын

    ok but the little boy is amazingly talented! i was literally blown away!!

  • @UnoNumberOne
    @UnoNumberOne5 жыл бұрын

    Attended for Tom Hiddleston, but the prospect of seeing Timothy West was a bonus. It was such an absolute joy to watch all the actors give amazing performances and to listen to intelligent people debate great literature. I'm a Dickens fan, but I loved watching Simon Schama, so charismatic. So happy that you filmed this so we can relive that wonderful evening.

  • @TheMoonlightMoods
    @TheMoonlightMoods2 жыл бұрын

    Came here for Tom, stayed for knowledge. Thank you so much for this content

  • @lolam4209
    @lolam42095 жыл бұрын

    Tom is talented as hell

  • @ealasaidfaye

    @ealasaidfaye

    3 жыл бұрын

    ikr it’s insane

  • @WendyWindsor
    @WendyWindsor5 жыл бұрын

    30:33 Tom takes of his jacket. Not that anyone cares really...

  • @sounsure9108

    @sounsure9108

    5 жыл бұрын

    WendyWindsor actually I just asked that above, thx I will watch whole thing though

  • @arbasali3476

    @arbasali3476

    5 жыл бұрын

    thanks!

  • @Redorgreenful

    @Redorgreenful

    5 жыл бұрын

    Not all heroes wears capes. Or jackets.

  • @shingtome2179

    @shingtome2179

    5 жыл бұрын

    Anybody know the band of sweater/shirt he is wearing? It looks like absolutely swank!

  • @lifeofsahani

    @lifeofsahani

    3 жыл бұрын

    Omg I was searching the entire video for the moment he took his jacket off. I wish I had seen this comment before all the hardwork I did. XD

  • @robertporter6683
    @robertporter66832 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for posting this. And thank you KZread... for putting ads in the middle of the dramatic readings.

  • @Melanie-hm5dk
    @Melanie-hm5dk3 жыл бұрын

    Came for Tom and stayed for all these incredible actors and the stories

  • @fatimacnblue2068
    @fatimacnblue20685 жыл бұрын

    Tom ♥️

  • @JadeTheorist3942
    @JadeTheorist39429 ай бұрын

    1:15:58 The way that Tom looks at Zawe and kisses her hand is adorable!!! I know that they are in character, but I feel Tom truly mean the loving words!!! 😍

  • @paulamusik2509
    @paulamusik25093 жыл бұрын

    Dickens vs Tolstoy?! Two of my favorite authors in a battle?! Actors acting out scenes of their books?! I love EVERYTHING about this! (also the moderator is fantastic!)

  • @uzumakihana
    @uzumakihana5 жыл бұрын

    I'm a Literature and Drama student, the talks and the plays are amazing and inspiring, also Tom Hiddleston is a bonus (I'm a huge fan)

  • @cu2524
    @cu25244 жыл бұрын

    I never know Dickens and Tolstoy can be so alive. It is great to hear the actors and actresses do the read aloud. They’re all magnificent artists. If only my teacher did something like this in class, I’d have like their works more. As for Tom, I can see from his reaction that he’s really enjoy being there and listening to the enlightening debate between the 2 great professors.

  • @sahmdiaries
    @sahmdiaries5 жыл бұрын

    I have never even read Tolstoy but as a millennial, I felt sooo drawn to the stores that these incredible actors showed, that I might just pick up one of his books and read.

  • @noobmaster-zq9su
    @noobmaster-zq9su3 жыл бұрын

    Zawe Ashton is such an amazing actress. Her work is incredible

  • @riamiosakilyrics
    @riamiosakilyrics5 жыл бұрын

    I didn't even read the title I just saw Tom and clicked on it The internet knows what's it's doing!

  • @GIRLINA101
    @GIRLINA1013 жыл бұрын

    The young boy is so incredibly talented. I hope his parents protect him.

  • @twicebitten
    @twicebitten2 жыл бұрын

    It makes me incredibly happy to see Tom enjoy Tolstoy

  • @hopesy12u4
    @hopesy12u45 жыл бұрын

    15:10 when the host lady of the event realised that talent can be born on stage. xD the kid can ACT!

  • @musicloverlondon6070
    @musicloverlondon60705 ай бұрын

    Great to see the admirable Bonnie Greer again. Wish she was on mainstream TV more. To watch a debate involving Bonnie, Tom Hiddleston and Simon Schama is great.

  • @ersteerste
    @ersteerste5 жыл бұрын

    The whole debate was pure pleasure to listen and to watch! Thank you so much! p.s. with immense respect and gratitude from Russia.

  • @cindylithium
    @cindylithium5 жыл бұрын

    There’s something so universal about that moment in War and Peace. Not only was it performed here, but also the final moment in the musical “Natasha, Pierre, and the great comet of 1812”. It was portrayed in the final moments of the musical as this beautiful duet and chorus.

  • @meldeleon236
    @meldeleon2362 жыл бұрын

    Clicked because I saw Tom on the thumbnail, but blown away by each of the actors! They're all great!

  • @kellicoffman8440
    @kellicoffman84406 ай бұрын

    What a treat it truly is hard to chose between Dickens and Tolstoy. I love the humor and crazy names dickens comes up with. But the most moving moment is just Tom reading Tolstoy

  • @michellep6417
    @michellep64172 жыл бұрын

    When Tom was speaking the camera cut to the audience and you could see all the women become hopeless romantics for him LOL

  • @michaelwu7678
    @michaelwu76785 жыл бұрын

    Why not Tolstoy vs. Dostoevsky? Would’ve been a better matchup in my opinion. Both were way more “serious” writers than Dickens.

  • @iloveh2omermaids

    @iloveh2omermaids

    5 жыл бұрын

    Michael Wu I see what you’re saying; however, I think that what makes this a more fascinating debate is the differences between Dickens and Tolstoy. Perhaps one is more serious, perhaps one is less so. But the point is not to compare two similar styles, but to dive into which of the two very different styles has a longer lasting or more impactful legacy. That’s what makes the debate even more challenging and thus more interesting.

  • @michaelwu7678

    @michaelwu7678

    5 жыл бұрын

    Amanda Marie Thank you for the comment; I agree with you. However, I am more interested in the question of who SHOULD have a longer and more impactful legacy. And I think that concerning the improvement of personal morals, Tolstoy and Dostoevsky are more relevant and thus more deserving of debate. What do you think? Edit: I’m not saying that Dickens is shallow or anything like that. He is very penetrating in terms of social issues.

  • @mrRnf11

    @mrRnf11

    5 жыл бұрын

    If you think Tolstoy is more "serious" than Dickens, you haven't read enough Dickens.

  • @michaelwu7678

    @michaelwu7678

    5 жыл бұрын

    Julian Perhaps they are both equally serious. But I still think Tolstoy explores deeper topics with a grander scope, such as the philosophy of war and history in the later chapters of War and Peace. I know this is cherry picking but the Encyclopedia Brittanica says “It can be argued that no single English novel attains the universality of the Russian writer Leo Tolstoy’s War and Peace.” www.britannica.com/art/English-literature

  • @michaelwu7678

    @michaelwu7678

    5 жыл бұрын

    Just Getting By I don’t see your point. Harriet Beecher Stowe also left an everlasting legacy, but to say that Uncle Tom’s Cabin is a supreme work of world literature would be ridiculous.

  • @Persnikity-yv3nh
    @Persnikity-yv3nh5 жыл бұрын

    Ah yes, a good old-fashioned Fog Off.

  • @SkittyBlackfire

    @SkittyBlackfire

    5 жыл бұрын

    +

  • @nanditamondal1033
    @nanditamondal10335 жыл бұрын

    In my personal opinion, Dickens is good at expressing emotions when Tolstoy is a philosopher who can show more of the reality by thoughts. To say easily, Dickens is heart when Tolstoy is mind. I think common people admire Dickens when critics' vote will go for The Russian legend. But both are individually incredible in their own fields what makes them "immortal" in the history of literature.

  • @wonka3209

    @wonka3209

    3 жыл бұрын

    And Dickens has an impeccable sense of humor which always turns a writer to some kind of oracle. As it was with Moliere and Mark Twain. Leo Tolstoy on the other hand was an explorer and his contribution to the Russian 1812 war history is outstanding.

  • @sherriburns9746

    @sherriburns9746

    3 жыл бұрын

    I agree...dickens appealed to the hearts

  • @arielle172
    @arielle1722 жыл бұрын

    I came here for Tom but I stayed out of my curiosity and amazement of this debate. I dont know much about older literature, but this is great. It makes me feel smart lol