Diamond DA50 RG - Cost to Own
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What does it actually cost to buy and own a Diamond DA50? In this short video we break down the Cost to Own Diamond DA50 and let you know exactly what your get for your money. And how much of your money it will take.
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In addition to annual costs, we cover the cost per hour and cost per mile to operate. We also cover key performance stats so you know what you're paying for.
Costs of airplane ownership vary widely from owner to owner. This video takes an average of the various expenses from existing owners and boils them down to simple to digest numbers. Your ownership experiences will be unique.
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I cant even afford a used saab with 337k miles
@Aviioniic
Жыл бұрын
No wonder, i can't afford a gripen fighter jet either
@notfunny3397
Жыл бұрын
For some reason I wa thinking of the Saab jets
@TheSpecial4247
Жыл бұрын
It's nice to dream tho 😊
@Dont_Think_Do_Films
Жыл бұрын
That’s like 100 hours tt
@mpmcruz
Жыл бұрын
Me neither; aprox. 1 milions
I always laugh out loud at least twice in your videos! Such an excellent blend of quality humor sprinkled in with quality content.
@spisarik08
Жыл бұрын
Totally agree. The more and more personal flair he’s shoving in these otherwise factual reviews is pure gold 😅
"I'm not gonna debate engineering with someone with that accent" 😂😂😂
Please don’t ever stop with the pithy tone of your videos; it’s just so awesome.
T-Hangers are very rare here in the EU. We have Hangers with a giant disc in the center that can rotate and can park high- and low-wing aircraft alternately. It saves a lot of space! The drawback is that we dont get a personal space i guess
@antoniog9814
Жыл бұрын
That seems to be a really cool hangar design.
@CompleteWalkaround
Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Thanks for sharing
@camspring
Жыл бұрын
No personal space in the EU, you don't say 😬
@ASW20kutscher
Жыл бұрын
Germany is the size of Montana, but has 84 million people instead of 1.8. What is personal space?
@flomoose7315
Жыл бұрын
Agree, these do exist. HOWEVER, many of the hangars are T-Hangers. Personally, I wouldn’t like to put my plans on these discs, unless absolutely necessary. I don’t like dents in my brand new 1.5 million DA50🤪😅😅
I was ded with the "not gonna argue with someone with that accent" LOL
Thank you for the video. Definitely a dream plane of mine.
Im in the UK and have yet to see a T hangar. I have deliberated as to why this is and some might say that its because there are fewer planes, rarely have extreme weather, less space, horizontal drizzle blah blah. However, my belief is that as a nation that we take enormous pleasure in moaning about everything, thus having the opportunity to move 5-6 aircraft of varying weights and sizes to get your trusty flying machine from the back, then shoe horn it back in at the end of the day, gives us the perfect opportunity to moan. Glorious.
@CompleteWalkaround
Жыл бұрын
That’s insightful! 😅
You are legit funny. Great video.
"Hugh Jass Wings"? fantastic. I'll need to have Hugh-Jass-Ackman money to even contemplate this bird. Great video as always. Thanks for the laughs.
This video was great. Can you make a video about the DG-808B?
"I'm not gonna debate engineering with someone with that accent" Very friendly saying that about a person you do not know. Would love to see you talking about an aircraft in german if you're not a native speaker...
@CompleteWalkaround
10 ай бұрын
Micke! Hey, it's a compliment. He has a German accent therefore knows a lot about engineering (stereotype yes I suppose but positive one that Germans are smart and good at engineering) therefore I wouldn't argue with him. I drive a German car! I'm a fan of Diamond, check my other diamond videos. Mostly thanks to you and Martin. Thanks for commenting. I've been watching you since your Crossing the Pond series. Next time you come to London beers are on me! Cheers from Ottawa 👍
Rather have the DA50RG over the Cirrus
Absolutely beautiful aircraft and interiors
Such a beautiful plane!
In Poland most hangars fit a 18m gliders and often an AN2
Hey man I love your videos! Do you reckon you could do one on the lanceair evolution planes? Would be really interesting to see how they stack up with each other and the competition
@CompleteWalkaround
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Yup
As someone who has cruised in an unpressurized piston single at 20,000 feet, there is some weather which can be avoided just slightly higher. Also higher is more badass. That was in a 1980 Mooney btw, DA50 RG service ceiling is somewhat disappointing.
Awesome video. SuperXimango next!
There are no t-hangers in eu btw
My understand is that the $150,000 engine needs to be replaced at 2000 hours. So your engine reserve would be $75/hr in round numbers.
What a great aircraft ❤
Love your content !Can you do a video on the da20 katana (rotax 912s version).🛩️
@CompleteWalkaround
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Yup
Hey. From Europe here (Belgium). From all the airfields I went (until now), no T hangars here
Love it I’d add that the SR22 is high performance and has a higher stall speed. DA50 glides down at a much slower rate than a SR22 even with parachute deployed
@Brimstin
Жыл бұрын
I'd rather be under a parachute canopy at basically zero forward airspeed than to try to keep it in a stall and hit the ground (or trees) at 58 knots (~67mph). It's even more when you take the vertical speed component into account. No thanks.
@MickeLang
10 ай бұрын
So you rather be under a parachute on your way into the power lines than deciding where to land? interesting@@Brimstin
@Brimstin
9 ай бұрын
That's extremely unlikely, @@MickeLang, Diamond Employee. (Be careful not to let your bias cloud your judgement!) Out of the recorded SR22 parachute events, how many have drifted into power lines while under canopy? If you're that worried about extreme corner cases, you probably don't have any business flying... let alone walking outside your front door each day. Risks are everywhere. It's about assessing the likelihood of risks and having the right tools and strategies to minimize their impact. So yes, I would much rather be under canopy-especially at night, in IMC, or in mountainous terrain-than to crash land at 67mph.
@iiddrrii6051
9 ай бұрын
@@MickeLang While one can argue all the facets of an accident, Cirrus has claimed that everyone has survived every CAPS deployment that was within the envelope.
for the most part in europe and here in the uk you either have the capital to rent or by your own full size hanger (if you the ask the MOD (uk DOD) nicely you and some friends can purchase a full size cold war hanger) or if you done have milions spare you buy a plane cover and store it outsize. tho with a dimond its probaly the former
Nice video. I noticed an error though. The cost per hour at 200 hours per year seems to represent the fixed costs only. I believe it should be $329 vs. the $195 currently shown.
@CompleteWalkaround
Жыл бұрын
Good catch. 😣
Can you do a Diamond DV20 / DA20 Katana Video please?
I would really enjoy a video on jet A fueled GA planes. :)
As always an amazing video. Unfortunately I don't have money to afford not even a piper cub but if I had i would probably still buying a DA50, because i'm dumb? yeah also, but also because I like diamond aircraft, the design fascinates me😅 I'm not here to be smart, I'm here because I like it lol😂
@abel4776
11 ай бұрын
Consider a Lancair Evolution.
The CD300 engine is actually a TBR not TBO which is why there is no real world overhaul figures on it.
@CompleteWalkaround
Жыл бұрын
Good catch. Oops 😖
Do a video on the cost of ownership of a Boeing 747 Business Jet
Great video as always. Helicopters may not be your thing but ever considered doing a video on the Mosquito?
@CompleteWalkaround
Жыл бұрын
I have. I even have 2 or 3 drawn. One day
This or the DA62 are the planes I'd like to own once I'm a captain
On this side of the pond we usually have big ass Hangars and therefore you don't get to have your own man cave (or woman cave, but we shouldn't say that). So you cram all the airplanes together on the same floor, make sure they're not smashing each others navlights and then you shut the door. If the Hangar is high enough, you may also hang your expensive aircraft from the ceiling, almost doubling available space. So you see, depending on what is stored there already, a DA50 might not be a big deal to put in. But yeah, I'd also prefer a T-Hangar, thanks.
Will you do a video on the clubcrafters planes
@CompleteWalkaround
Жыл бұрын
Yup
Kodiak Quest next please!
Can’t wait for some carrier style folding wings on a Cessna 😂
Dang man I just realized something. This DA-50 has a really big wingspan, meaning you need a big hanger to fit it. It also costs around 50k a year for 100 hours. The MU-2 probably needs a similar sized hangar and costs 100k for 100 hours but you can also get one for 700 thousand fewer dollars, meaning you could buy an MU-2 and fly it around for 14 years (assuming 100 hours a year) before it would start costing more than the DA-50.
I wish there were more engines out there like it!
Can you do super cub?
good as video as per usual, now hear me out Aeronca 7AC champ
@nitroscout8119
Жыл бұрын
I got you. Insurance $1500, hangar $4000, annual $500. Fuel $28, maintenance $5, reserve $10.
@jacobtheaviator9976
Жыл бұрын
@@nitroscout8119 i rent one irl and that helps heaps cheers! would still like a full video tho
Can you do a sea Ray?
kewl
I'm not a pilot and I ca't afford a new car, much less a new airplane. But I REALLY was interested in the running and operating cost for this airplane.
"So you want to..." Actually, yes; and I'm surprised that you didn't mention the lack of TC certification...
Would love to know what a beriev BE-103 costs.
The longer the wing, the cooler the pilot 😎
@camspring
Жыл бұрын
*The spinnier the wing
40 foot hangers are not a thing here and I wish they were. Additionally, general aviation in the USA and Canada is more laid back while here its somewhat more controlled (boring). E.g I was surprised to learn that in USA "flight following" is just "flight following" while here we've got a complicated version of it. If you know you know 😂. Then you guys have better access to AVGAS, cheaper landing fees, many mechanics, cheaper airplane parts and friendly ATC who sometime mess around. In short, for us aviation is not quite as open as it is in the west and I really hope that someday it will be.
Oh Diamond Da50 I love you 😍 my dream.
Never seen a T hangar here. The ones I know are massive shared hangars.
I'm a pilot flying in Austria and in all my time flying here, I've never never seen a T-hangar
If I ever get a Diamond and a pilots licence, I'll call it Lucy. So it's Lucy in the Sky with Diamond.
read me an audio book please your voice is so soft
I live an hour outside of Edmonton and there are no T hangers. I assume that's a close to the city/southern Ontario thing in Canada.
@TheOwenMajor
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, you mostly see them where there are a lot of GA pilots, but not alot of space available. Out in the countryside, you might as well build your own hanger, the land is cheap and available, and you don't need to coordinate with anyone. If you look at a larger GA airport like Springbank by Calgary, you'll see tons of T-hangers.
I don't care, the DA50 is the best looking GA plane on the market today in my eyes.
The main cost for all of these diamonds and similar priced flying boxes are capital cost and not the fuel or overhauls, so I stick to my paraglider (with a parashute) and co-shared ultralight (with a parashute as well).
@camspring
Жыл бұрын
"He died doing what he loved."
I'm from Europe (UK). From most airfields I've seen. No, "T" hangars aren't really a thing over here.
Why are so many people fan of diesel engines in aircraft? their reduced fuel consumption doesn’t compensate their acquisition and maintenance costs, the continental ones can’t be overhauled, they’re heavier and less powerfull than their avgas counterparts, and there are far fewer mechanics who can service them. about the only benefit as far as I can see is the fact jet A is more widely available. (For reference, I’m a European (Belgium)). I would never voluntarily buy a Diesel. As long as it’s available, AVGAS is king! 👑 So can anyone who’s well informed plz tell me why diamond is building diesels, and why some people would prefer to buy those instead of a good old Lycoming, Conti, etc?
@FamilyManMoving
Жыл бұрын
"As long as it's available..." You answered your own question. I a world where gubbermint authorities like to regulate every detail, and ban every thing, many of us assume that "they" will come for AVGAS with or without lead, simply because Jet-A is more "efficient". If that sounds crazy, try talking to California about gas engines in cars. Logic does not apply when it comes to politicians.
@kristus20
Жыл бұрын
@@FamilyManMoving It’s not ever going to happen, they have been working on unleaded fuel, sure, they might ban the sale of 100LL yeah sure, but only if and when a drop in certified replacement is available in similar quantities as 100LL is now. There are to many planes out there, and they surely are not gonna ground the far out majority of all GA planes in the world. As for more efficient: Jet A actually has a lower energy density than AVGAS although it contains more energy for a given volume because it’s denser, but that also makes it heavier. The diesel engines are supposed to be more efficient and yes in terms of fuel consumption they are, but there is cost, a diesel has a lower power to weight ratio. For the same weight, an AVGAS burning engine is more powerful, equally true: for the same power, an AVGAS burning engine is a lot lighter.
pipistrel virus 912 SW please
Let’s make it clear retractable gear is more complex and a lot more expensive to maintain. This goes with the props to.
“ Hugh Jass” 😂😂. No T hangars in the UK that I can think of. A lot of airfields are just that, fields with a grass strip and some agricultural style buildings. There are quite a few that are ex-military and have the massive hangars on. We just spend most of our time shuffling planes around then complaining about doing it 🤣👋🇬🇧
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Liquid cooler with a gear box sounds like a maintenance and reliability nightmare, love the video as always!
Hmm i wonder hos this compares to the wonderful CH77 helicopter...
If I had to buy a brand new plane, it would probably be a DA-50 RG.
Personally never seen a T-Hangar in Germany
How fast is it with those retractable gear!?!
@Redchrome1
Жыл бұрын
Any and all speed mods add 10kts each. It's a regulation in the Hangar Flying Handbook.
Yes the accent is what makes that man credible. Nothing else 🤣🤣🤣
Is cockpit visibility an important parameter?
@pietrooliani3251
Жыл бұрын
both are preatty good
@prep0wer
Жыл бұрын
@@pietrooliani3251 flying upside down
in europe if T-hangars even exist i'd say they are very rare
@thephotoyak
Жыл бұрын
Odd that densely populated Europe would have less efficient boxy hangers.
@pietrooliani3251
Жыл бұрын
@@thephotoyak there simply isn't the demand here, unlike in the us very few people actually own a plane, the vast majority of ga planes in the air are from flight school/clubs wich have theyre own big hangar in wich they store all of them, people that do own a planes store it along the school ones
So if you fly a diamond 50 can you say you're a jet pilot ??? 😏
Can someone explain to me why a hangar in the US costs 20K? In the UK at most you'll pay 500 GBP per month.
@alphaadhito
Жыл бұрын
I think it because it can't fit inside a standard T hangar (which usually can only fit a maximum of 40ft of wingspan) so a bigger more expensive hangar is needed. A T hangar usually cost $300 to $500 here, more if you choose air conditioned one.
@CompleteWalkaround
Жыл бұрын
Yes, once you get out of t-hangars (in north America) you get into big boy hangars and the cost is extravagant and varies widely. 20k is annually and an average from a very wide array. This video explains where my numbers come from kzread.info/dash/bejne/h3qJptptl7PZfqQ.html
da50 is faster isn't it??
The fixed costs are bonkers!
I want a luxury single engine but I wanna pay more, go slower, and struggle to find a hangar. Welcome to Diamond.
@pietrooliani3251
Жыл бұрын
the hangar is a us problem, in europe t-hangars don't exists
Who will be the first to combine a jet burning piston engine with a brs system? Will GAs collective heads explode?
Buying the da50 isn’t all plane sailing
Imagine if you could just swap the wings for a jet like and install forward conards. This thing could gain a few knot's for sure
I couldn’t imagine someone giving up the safety of having two engine, and decide to go for a da50. After all the purchase price is almost identical and da62 carry more and fly faster… Also AE330 is a proven engine at this point why risk your money on a CD300?
@YaroslavNechaev
Жыл бұрын
I think it was originally supposed to be way cheaper but then inflation, shortages and huge demand on everything induced by near 0% loan rates skyrocketed the price. I think we should just let Diamond to churn through the wealthy buyers first and allow them to adjust the price for realistic market conditions. Maybe they'll also come up with some more powerful AE engine for it as well.
@shiroyukiwang1252
Жыл бұрын
@@YaroslavNechaev if the price is set half way between da40 and da42, it would be more reasonable. For the same price as da62 it is just a big no no. The worse thing here is, it is also a less capable plane than the sr22t. More expensive, slower, unproven engine, and cd300 isn't that much more efficient than the tsio550. Unlike the AE300 which burns siginificantly less gas than IO360, the extra complexity of the cd300 didn't bring enough benefit to justify it.
@YaroslavNechaev
Жыл бұрын
@@shiroyukiwang1252 well, to be fair TSIO-550 is also quite a maintenance nightmare. I'll stick to my 4-cylinder SR20. I've been in DA50/DA62 cabin, though. It's much roomier than Cirrus, especially for the second row passengers. I'd say if we could buy it for $900k (the price of base SR22T or highly-optioned SR22) it would have been competitive. As it stands I would rather buy DA62 if I'm in Europe or an SR22T if I'm in the US.
@shiroyukiwang1252
Жыл бұрын
@@YaroslavNechaev the weaknesses of tsio550 is pretty well knows and there’s a lot of shop that can overhaul/repair it. For CD300 most mechanic have zero experience working on it and have no idea what could go wrong. Also it is possible some day continental could drop the product line and you’re stucked with thielert V2.0 situation.
@oldsnwbrdr
Жыл бұрын
Agree. I don’t understand the appeal of the DA50 with its max range of 750nm at economy cruise. Why bother with retractable gear?
Retractable gear, cool more complex... more things to break and inspect
@Brimstin
Жыл бұрын
Not to mention significantly higher insurance premiums.
The Cirrus wins hands down!
You think a 44 feet is wide? My Duo Discus wings are 66 feet wide, and I ain't leaving her outside.
@CompleteWalkaround
9 ай бұрын
Wings don't pop off a da50
@Maniac742
9 ай бұрын
@@CompleteWalkaround Sure they do, but not conveniently. They don't really come off the Duo easily either. It's parked in a hanger with a 70 foot door.
That´s surely a plane
44 foot wing and yet they can only get 49 gallons of fuel in this thing?? Range is atrocious.
A dump truck full of money is required.
On the plus side, if you put the DA50 into a spin you don't have to replace the aircraft when you recover normally rather than pop the chute and end up on the news.
@YaroslavNechaev
Жыл бұрын
Most spins are departure stalls (often engine failure-induced!) or base-to-final turn stalls. If you spin at that altitude - no recovery procedure will help you. The parachute (with the appropriate training) just might. Besides, no one cares about saving the airplane, once the turd hits the fan it's owned by the insurance company. The prime directive is to save people.
Flying a DA40 now. I've been able into sit in a DA50RG but haven't been able to fly in one yet. If its anything like the DA40, shut up and take my money!
@galactictomato1434
Жыл бұрын
DA40 has better range funny enough
I was the 442nd lol
Diamond: save on fuel Real world: make it up in purchase price and maintenance. No I didn’t watch the video, and have never worked on a DA50. But all the others I have.
Well now you owe us a video on the cirrus.
@CompleteWalkaround
Жыл бұрын
Have one, enjoy!
nice aircraft but overpriced new
You have to be making millions a year to afford any plane
@galactictomato1434
Жыл бұрын
False.
Very annoying, over half the video had nothing to do with cost to own. You’ll get more views and likes if you are straight to the the point. Also the constant “humor” cheapened the information given and made it feel unprofessional.
@galactictomato1434
Жыл бұрын
Strong disagree
@idratherfly2000
Жыл бұрын
@@galactictomato1434 straight and to the point, I like it!