Diamond 13 Patch Origins
What Does The Diamond 13 Mean? The "13" on the patch stood for the Top 13 "Outlaw" motorcycle clubs in Southern California, the Top 13 outlaw racing clubs were awarded the patch and a trophy. The diamond patch shape was used because it already stood for the anti-AMA movement and it was AMA who used the term 99% of bikers are law abiding.
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@bigd9401
3 жыл бұрын
#Ghostin Sanford nc
@crimsonhawk4912
3 жыл бұрын
How come the black mc's have the best looking bikes. #Ghostin
@PeteyPablo408
3 жыл бұрын
What's up with that Skull Mascara You be sporting that shit is SIC where can I get one of those?
@12lionwhelps71
3 жыл бұрын
The 13 should be the universal unity patch
@joshuataft5541
3 жыл бұрын
I'm a new sub...I apriciate the info.. the last thing I want is disrespecting other riders..I'm not in a club but I respect those who are. I do o ow you never pass a club in a group and roughly about activities and patches but that's it... thanx .be safe out there
historically it refers to the fact that there's 13 loops in the knot of a hanging noose and 13 steps on a proper gallows. the symbolism then is the wearer will hang before they betray their brothers
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
👊👊👊
@trevorjarvis3050
3 жыл бұрын
Yep... this is the story I heard decades ago, from a cop. It was inked on his right forearm.
@robbieking2671
3 жыл бұрын
13 knots 13 steps it's illegal in a lot of states to possess a noose with 13 knots in it, least that's what I was told by a county sheriff deputy when I was a teenager...
@trevorjarvis3050
3 жыл бұрын
@@robbieking2671 yes... it is in quite a few states.
@operationtruth288
3 жыл бұрын
Wow
Our club has wore the 13 diamond since 1962 and your explanation is pretty much what I've been thought . But the 13 was how many clubs that left the AMA back in the day . At first it was a cube then changed to a diamond . Great show as always . I'd be honored to sit down with ya and have a few drinks and talk club .
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
Gonna be doin some events soon
@Officialmryuck
2 жыл бұрын
Ay Rick much respect first of all but I want to say I remember seeing this on my grandfather's (blue jean cut?) I'm not a rider just a viber. Was the leather not a thing back then? My grandfather has passed since then so I can't ask him...
@nategolubski8383
2 жыл бұрын
@@Officialmryuck it's really up to the club. the club I'm around wears Jean cuts instead of leather
@stevehinch2694
2 жыл бұрын
@@Officialmryuck back in the day 1960s etc pretty much all cuts were denim hence the name it was a denim jacket with the sleeves cut off.....leather stated coming in much latter
@Officialmryuck
2 жыл бұрын
@@stevehinch2694 this makes allot of sense hearing this and what my father and uncle say about my grandfather. He started riding after he came back from Vietnam.
The honest truth is the 13 can mean what every your club sees fit to make it your own. Every patch on your vest means something, and it’s no bodies business but between brothers. So my 13 means something what it means to me and mine. But the next club it means something else. That’s the truth. I love how you explained this… good work homie. Your channel is so fucking real.
@SoseTheGhost
3 жыл бұрын
Its roots are its roots but other clubs have there meanings
@Hardrada88
3 жыл бұрын
Right on. Well said
@osirissimmons9567
Жыл бұрын
Agreed I personally would use it for weed especially since the rest of patches would be band patches it'd blend in with everything else
You da Man. In 30 yrs this was the best explanation of the patch that I have ever heard. We appreciate all you do and keep pounding 💯✊🏾
@DemonsRow
2 жыл бұрын
Much love
From my understanding ( could be wrong) however, the 1st wearing of the numbers 13 were by the 13 Rebels in 1937, they were the top 13 AMA racers in SoCal and formed that MC, Shortly after is when the AMA came out with the whole 99% / 1% thing, the first 13 1% clubs then started wearing the 13 square patch. i have also heard it relates to each club differently.
@MatthewRuss-kj7yf
Ай бұрын
There were 13 clubs given the diamond. The top 13 outlaw clubs living outside the AMA. POBOB, Galloping Goose, Tophatters, Moonshine, Boozefighters, etc. After the Hollister riot, the 1% came out of the media. It was then switched later to the 1%. These clubs still rate this patch.
Keep spreading good knowledge man. I've learned alot from your videos. It's truly helping me decide if the MC life is right for me. I love to ride but lone wolf since I was 19. I'm 37 now and thinking of joining a club. Wish I lived near you man. I'd love to roll with you someday. Keep killin it man. #GHOSTIN
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
Where you live adam?
@adamrobertson1076
3 жыл бұрын
@@DemonsRow Butler Indiana
@vision821k4
3 жыл бұрын
I just want to say hi and i wish you the best and if you ever that 1 percent patch, you got my back now. ima talk all types of shit and ur gonna send ur goons for me, okay?
That's some cool history on the 13 diamond. I'm first nations and support Redrum First Nations MC. They have a 13 1/2 Diamond. Their meaning is What You mentioned in the beginning partially. Redrums take is about how our people always got the odds against us in the system. 12 jurors, 1 judge and half a chance.
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
Much respect to you and your brothers
@harleykng6477
3 жыл бұрын
@@DemonsRow i want to give a Big Shout out to the REDRUM MC Met some brothers from the PEQUOT chapter in CT Great, Respectable people # GhOsTiN
@stimpsonsutube
3 жыл бұрын
Redrum is awesome!! MLH&R
@harleykng6477
3 жыл бұрын
@@stimpsonsutube FACTS!
@shadowwolf461
2 жыл бұрын
Does redrum have a texas chapter? Yall are a bunch of cool dudes!
I have some friends that are in a support club of a 1% club, they wear the diamond 13. I’ve never asked them the meaning, because it’s none of my business. Lol.
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
Def
@johnchotkowski655
3 жыл бұрын
Same for me "I'm just a hang around man"
@txbarker78
3 жыл бұрын
Same here
I'm a former SAA for my old MC and originally when I was a Prospect, I was taught it was a support patch for our Dominant club in the territory which our club earned from our sponsor due to how much the founding members supported him and was always there for him, requested or not. After I got my officer position I learned the actual history of the patch, which is kind of sad that majority of bikers, even clubs don't know the origin. Just goes to show that there is a lot of information that has become twisted over the years in regards to origins.
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
Yes because everybodys worried about politics and backstabbing why would they aquire knowledge
Another great one man! Fantastic. I always saw it as a badge of recognition, a combat patch that only those who know, know of..if you will. If I ride by or am at a meet and see a 13, I feel relatively secure in the knowledge that they know their stuff, they know the life. Another reason why I don’t like the fully patched pretend cuts. I wear a plain leather cut, no patches, one support pin and my old EGA that’s it. ‘13’ was also popular with the cafe racers and early rockers as well but was mostly painted onto a jacket rather than a patch. Unlucky for some, lucky for others. 13’s legendary. Hope your doing well out there man, ride swift & steady.
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
Very true much love stuart
This has always been a topic. When I grew up you never had anything with 13 on it. It wasn’t until I was 5 years in then navy when I learned about the 13 tattoo tradition where getting it inked would bring you good luck. That kinda where the Friday the 13th tattoo events rooted from besides the old story of wanting a cheap tattoo. The way you said it and the way the clubs use it makes sense to me too.
Second timer and I’m fucking with the content heavy man. Much love and respect from one biker to another ✊🏼 #GHOSTIN
@SoseTheGhost
3 жыл бұрын
Welcome matt glad your here
Years back someone told me it meant "Mother Charter". But later learned that it was the precursor to the 1% diamond.
@SoseTheGhost
3 жыл бұрын
Yea so many different stories
@smilingscottsman
3 жыл бұрын
I've heard that too but the real meaning precedes ANY charter...
@Overit5000
3 жыл бұрын
1369 = mother chapter as well
@stephaniecimorose9421
3 жыл бұрын
13 is mother club chapter of the PAGANS!!
@hankmarshall7686
3 жыл бұрын
I was told the same thing
Haha the guy who taught me about the number 13 with motorcycles over 20+ years ago said it was just a way to confuse people or shock people. He was too old to be a hippie yet too young to be a beatnik a great man he was. He said 13 can mean M for motorcycle and was a old way of saying you like bikes or that you are independent. He also said the group of friends he rode with did the kissing and it was just their way of shocking the squares saying we want to do our thing, not be hassled, not cause problems, and have fun riding. He said 13 meant whatever you want it to mean. Kinda like FTW that means Forever Two Wheels. He taught me many years ago no diamonds or ink unless you take the step and are willing to put in the work to earn them with a club. Honestly most of what you talk about in your videos is just good old fashioned common sense, etiquette, and respect for other people explained in your own words and I dig that. Thank you.
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
Ive had oldtimers to me misinfo many times
@sswcustomsewing4276
3 жыл бұрын
@@DemonsRow Sadly I have had a few old timers give myself along with other people misinformation as well. I enjoy your channel because you focus on education, safety, and helpful topics. Keep up the good work and have a great day.
I'll be damned... this is the first time I've heard someone get it right. Man, I've been riding for forty years, there's no way I can tell you how I know what I do.
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
Much respect drift
I was told about the square 13 and diamond 1% patches when I was 15 by a Hell Angel president that was a friend of my dad’s. He told me the square 13 was the original 1% patch which he wore on his right arm and below it was the diamond 1% patch. He would not go into detail other than he didn’t want to take off the square because he had to put in work for it. And he got the diamond 1% when he moved chapters and said he had to re-earn the diamond. I can’t verify how much of it was true and at what level he was at as president, could have been local to the area but rumor was all of Louisiana.
@SoseTheGhost
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing brother
@richardhendrix7620
2 жыл бұрын
5
Nice breakdown. Thanks! I am not in a club and do not plan to be. Just not my thing but I do like to know the correct protocols and other things useful when riding. you are on point always. The only ones I listen to are you and Black Dragon. I appreciate you guys.
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
Much love trev
Great information! Thanks for all the information you put out on the MC culture. Been riding for 30 years and learn a lot from this channel 👍🏻👍🏻
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
Much respect
When I was a kid and, I'm almost 70 , we were told by a guy who rode with the old Iron Cross MC in South Florida that the 13 letter was M and it was for marijuana and and when I was a kid marijuana was a big deal. I hope I explained that the way I was told.
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
Yea def
@addicted2legs100
3 жыл бұрын
I’m almost 64 and I heard weed when I was 16 from a guy 19 years older than me
#ghostin. My uncle who is in a Vet's MC just told me it means they are Outlaws (not the club). He attends 1% events but he is real careful on what he says about them because he isn't a 1%er. Great info Sose, very interesting.
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you patriot
@vision821k4
3 жыл бұрын
@@DemonsRow Are you a 1 percenter?
@hobbitpsi
3 жыл бұрын
He doesn't have to be that careful. The Military MC's and Veteran MC's are still pretty respected among all the clubs considering the original founding members of the big clubs were Veterans themselves, and usually when the 1% club throws an event they expect all the other clubs to attend and show support.
@proudpatriot3491
3 жыл бұрын
@@hobbitpsi Yeah my Uncle did mention they go to a lot of the 1%er in the area events.
@hobbitpsi
3 жыл бұрын
@@proudpatriot3491 It's not even a bad thing. A lot of the events are usually fund raisers to help charities, or maybe a biker (in any club or just one they got word of) and their family have medical bills to be paid. Once you hang around or even patch into a club, you realize that it's not all the bad things the media claims the MC life is about. A huge majority is raising funds for something important.
There were 13 original outlaw racing clubs who were against the ama and those clubs all raced against one another and the winners won a trophy in the shape of a diamond with the 13 in it and became part of the" Diamond Club ". Check it out man just like your dude said he's right.
@R3dbeard7.62
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Do you have the list of the 13? I high key need it
@R3dbeard7.62
2 жыл бұрын
It’s my homework and I can’t find an accurate list
Being a club with vests and patches I learn alot from you when I need to know how to go about approaching a situation we are a 3% style club but we know our look came from your culture and we don't cross certain lines ....no rockers diamond's or territory patches we stick to what we are a Patriot club ...we run a one piece patch and on our fronts we have our club name beside a Patriot club patch that explains what ans who we are and our role in the club and its chapter ...thank you for all the videos as it helps be teach my members what and what not to do ..we aren't in the mc culture but with wearing the vest comes questions which we get alot of but so far is been respectful and allowed
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
Im glad it helps much love
Love your videos Sose, I love the history of the 1%er MC. I’m 48 years old and am confined to a wheelchair since birth but always loved motorcycles especially Harley Davidsons and always been fascinated with the 1% culture and your videos are very informative. Thank you
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
I got something in the works you can be part of stay tuned
@knifeman-king
3 жыл бұрын
@@DemonsRow awesome thanks bro
I love your explanations of patches, MC life, and the fact that you accept EVERYONE. MC or independent. Mad respect brother. HOpe to meet you someday #GHOSTIN
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
You will brother much love
#GHOSTIN Thank you for all that you do. I had no clue what 13 meant. Now I do.
@SoseTheGhost
3 жыл бұрын
Def alex much love
Thank you. All I didn't know .but I do love what was taught to me very close but not exactly what I believe we are all different and that's why we stay close now 💪
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
Thats the truth don
Excellent info, Sose! Per your request, I was taught this by a 1%er out of California before he passed. GBNF. #ghostin
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
#Gho⚡tin
The way I see it , earn the patch and you will know what it means to your club , love the content even though you are on the other side of the planet. 🇦🇺🇦🇺
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
Much love paul glad you enjoy
True history lesson right there! I was taught by my President. We rock a diamond13 that includes the word motorcycle. Although it could mean just about any M word as the 13th letter of the alphabet if the word wasnt there. History is amazing, retaining it after its taight is even more amazing...lol...Ya boys got some residual smoke damage SOSE. #Ghostin
@SoseTheGhost
3 жыл бұрын
Salute keene
Here in England in the late 50's early 60's my Father rode and raced a Matchless, and wore a flying jacket with a 'Diamond 13' on it, no other patch just that.... when I was Prospecting in the early 80's he told me the California Racing story as the Origin of the Diamond 13. Great to hear you state it on here
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
Its crazy how traditions carry
#GHOSTIN Wow! One of my favorite eps. I love learning things! I learned sumpin new today! When I was young in the 70's my Opa! Told me that the 13 in a square,Diamond or 13! Represented that you were a Biker! It represented M for Motorcycle! He told me that F.T.W wasn't Funk The World but Forever Two Wheel! Later in the late 70's I was told by some Bikers that the 13 was for Marijuana and FTW stood for Forever together where ever! So TY! @SoseGhost & @Demonsrow for the schooling! Be safe & Stay healthy! Much L& R! 🤘 #BUTTECOUNTY #NORTHERNCALIFORNIA @WilliamDeFronzo
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
Much love my brother thats why we here
@williamdefronzo1657
3 жыл бұрын
@@DemonsRow know what you do is RIGHT! It pleases the All Mighty! Many Blessings!🙏🤘
#GHOSTIN We always used it for the original anti-AMA, them morphed into marijane. If anyone ever asked I would usually tell em it meant M for mom. Or my favorite, I told em the whole Outlaw m/c movement was started by some dude named Melvine. He hated that name so we called him "diamond m". The patch was a tribute.
@SoseTheGhost
3 жыл бұрын
Salute john #Gho⚡tin
I was always taught that it was for the 13th letter M meaning Mother... your club is your mother and you will always honor her! but to each is own...... as always man .. thank you for doing what you do.
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
Clubs will have there own meanings but this is the origins
@unoefxz
2 жыл бұрын
Mother, meaning mother club... But a square patch. Worn by national officers. You are on the right track.
#GHOSTIN #CALIFORNIA #JUSTAVETERANWITHABIKE The Diamond 13 patch is well known to Trials, Scramblers, Hillclimbers, Enduro riders, and Speedway and Flat Track racers in Southern California. Initially it signified the top 13 of the Outlaw Racers Association sanctioning clubs. The outlaw (racing) clubs formed to break the stranglehold the AMA had on racing, and also promoted safety (no board tracks). Later it was used as a symbol for privateer racing teams (teams without major sponsorship or backing). competing on the pro circuit. I wore one racing enduros and scrambles, and that's where I learned about the meaning. When I see the patch on a 1% club cut (at least here in SoCal) you can be reasonably sure he's a racer, or was, and is keeping alive the memory of those original outlaws.
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
#Gho⚡tin well said
I was born and raised in Ireland 🇮🇪, came to East L.A in the early 80's. After a few ass beatings, some given some taken it became my home, I was always taught by O.G Veteranos that the 13 stood for California (Sur Cal) the 13th State in the Union.
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
Yea theres alot of meanings
@jeffrobbins179
3 жыл бұрын
None of what u said adds up Rory
This has been a busy week for videos, I appreciate your hard work with all this content, keep it up brother #Ghostin
@SoseTheGhost
3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you ash i get a break till sunday live lol
@ashryder3266
3 жыл бұрын
@@SoseTheGhost my last night of work for a couple days too now. Catch you at church man, enjoy your days off
#GHOSTIN With gas crap goin' on, and good weather comin', gonna be lottsa Bikes out, be careful out there (Y)
@SoseTheGhost
3 жыл бұрын
Ride safe
@mikedelauter904
3 жыл бұрын
Usually, LOL
New to your Channel!!! Good to have all the information and you definitely give us that!!! # ghostin!!!
@DemonsRow
2 жыл бұрын
#Gho⚡tin
So many people confuse these historical facts this is true history it’s big deal But that just shows that people don’t go back to the start and get the factual answer Thanks for keeping the record straight !
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
Yea i hate that jimmy
Demons Row gives the truth about the diamond patch great vid dude # Ghosting UK
@SoseTheGhost
3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you
#GHOSTIN great history lesson about MC clubs who were developing their own style
@SoseTheGhost
3 жыл бұрын
Much love bill
@pops_hd6962
3 жыл бұрын
@@SoseTheGhost love & respect and thank you! Be safe Brother!
Hi Sosa I never miss a episode and I binge watch the old ones much love from australia
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
Much love jayde 🙌🙌🙌
Read about it considering the club I'm prospecting for is one of the ORIGINAL 13 clubs that were awarded a diamond from SCOF. Part of our history even though we don't run it, we still rate it, and damn sure still have that type mentality.
As always informative and on point! One of my favorite shows to whatch#DEAMONSROWTV
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you
#ghostin always look forward to these lately
@SoseTheGhost
3 жыл бұрын
Im glad you enjoy
Reasons like this… dropping knowledge and jems! I learn a lot from you. Feel like we family! Lol
@DemonsRow
2 жыл бұрын
Def a community and a family
I learned about the diamond 13 as a kid when the 1% patch was first coming to be more common. My Uncles rocked the 13. They were all Florida Outlaws MC.
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
Some history there much respect
@waynehager4228
3 жыл бұрын
Respect returned. You're doing good work here.
This is the first time I've heard about the 13 Dimond patch
@shadowsandspirtswithsantos6085
3 жыл бұрын
Really?
@SoseTheGhost
3 жыл бұрын
Yea alot of people dont
@SIN-oz1kx
3 жыл бұрын
More common then you think.
@shadowsandspirtswithsantos6085
3 жыл бұрын
@@SoseTheGhost then he’s at the right place to get informed. Sose your info is so fucking real. And universal. Thanks for informing the uneducated, and reeducation and conformation to the known.
@hobbitpsi
3 жыл бұрын
Bet now when you see clubs roll by you'll see it clear as day though.
I've seen while locked up the Dimond 13 1/2. Which was told to stand for 12 jurors 1 judge and a 1/2 ass chance. 🤙🏽😎🤙🏽
@SoseTheGhost
3 жыл бұрын
👊👊👊
Damn I feel honored. 🙏🏽. Thank you hermano! Looking forward to chopping it up a bit
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
Yes we def gonna make it work
Ok so growin up in northern California, i started AMA racing motorcycles in the 80s as a kid. I remember asking the older racers what the diamond 13 patch was on some of the guys leathers meant, as most of them were out of town racers or guys i heard of from other states. They told me it was a patch for racers that don't follow the rules. Almost like a bad boy patch. And all the HA guys that went to the races to watch wore the same patch. I remember all the "fast kids" rocked a diamond 13 sticker on the front plate! 😂
I researched it myself and came across the same definition. I confirmed it with a few diamond club members. It's the only definition that I knew it to have. ML&R to all the diamond clubs and their respective meanings for it.
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
Much respect
Been here since the start and it only keeps getting better. Stay safe and do what do on 2’s #GHOSTIN
@SoseTheGhost
3 жыл бұрын
Man i appreciate you for riding wit me
I heard it stood for the motorcycle mercenaries, heard it on pretty good authority dating back to 1968
New to the scene, started to hang around and learn and see what I can offer to MC and what MC can offer me. All US Marines so there's that initial bond, plus I dont feel as stupid asking questions, because I feel not asking the questions IS being stupid, and just like active duty being the FNG you need to ask questions when need be other than that keep eyes and ears open and your mouth shut. As for you brother thanks for doing this channel. In this new age of international interconnectedness and the world's information at our fingertips there's alot of BS floating about and lots of people who don't know shit. Hard to sift through the shit sometimes but you're legit cracking eggs of knowledge on us independents and hang arounds. So thanks again. I dont know if ill ever patch in but I have a better understanding of what im getting into, how to be respectful to fellow bikers, and how to not step on anyone's dick and get in trouble. Last thing I want or need is trouble, first thing I want is a safe healthy family, and some brothers to bond with.
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
Enjoy the ride
Respect to DemonsRow , thanks for sharing the history of the diamond 13 , my club uses the Spade 13
@DemonsRow
2 жыл бұрын
Nice theres more to the 13 but i didnt want to speak on prison politics
Im very supportive of the "unification and harmony" theme of this channel ... Keep up the great work 🎉
@DemonsRow
9 ай бұрын
Appreciate you
#GHOSTIN Sose, I have a patch, round trimmed in black, yellow background, it has a black cat with a red 13 on it. This patch represents training and experience overcome bad luck and superstition.
It’s funny seeing these pop up clubs with ama patch and a Dimond
First explanation I’ve heard. I like the history lesson about breaking away from the AMA. Those who modified bikes in the early days were banned from racing in AMA events is my understanding
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
I would like to dip more into history
Learned this from my cousin who was affiliated with the Hell’s Angels.
I was originally told that it was the whole 12 jurors 1 judge thing by a bro when I was a nominee. It wasn’t till later I learned what it meant for my club and its history. RFFR
#Ghostin from Port Orange. Been out ridding not hiding. Racked up about 500 miles in two weekends . All back roads.
@scoutsaresilentdeath8775
3 жыл бұрын
Damn, my cousin lives in Port Orange. I'm considering moving down there this year. How's the riding areas?
@SoseTheGhost
3 жыл бұрын
Nice get it bro
That's interesting I also just associated with support clubs. Never even thought about the meaning of was more than a support patch
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
Yes def supports wear it
#GHOSTIN That’s exactly how it was explained to me in 1989. Thanks for keeping us all educated, ML.
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
Much love #Gho⚡tin
Hello Sose, new subscriber here and i really love your channel. I thought the diamond 13 stemmed from the Hells Angels bomber crew from ww2 that rode their bikes together when not on a mission and thought that was the beginning of the Hells Angels MC.
@DemonsRow
Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@keithhampton9700
Жыл бұрын
Old Outlaw Biker told me it stood for M . Meaning marijuana.
#ghostin Weather is finally staying warm, Friggen lovin it. Good vid as usual.
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
In ct its on and off
@69Busa08Nova
3 жыл бұрын
Same in ri but at least it’s getting warmer. Should be a good summer man.
Living the street lifestyle, I've seen many symbols,numbers colors shared back and forth. I really like you videos I'm new to the motorcycle scene but respect it's rules.
@DemonsRow
2 жыл бұрын
Much respect
@The11101110111
2 жыл бұрын
@@DemonsRow Thank you.
You would be correct about the diamond 13 meaning. When I was growing in Southern california ama racing that was well known. Originally the diamond patch comes from military and adopted into motorcycle culture sense most mc riders came out of the military. Great job sose keep rockin
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
Much love hook
I was givin a 13 patch as a gift but a lot of people telling me I couldn’t wear it and a lot of people telling I have the freedom to wear it i always thought the 13 means good luck in motorcycle culture
@DemonsRow
Жыл бұрын
I have certain diamonds i got blessed with i cant wear this is a thing in the culture you can put it inside your cut
is there any connection between the diamond 13 and the Chapter 13 ? I was told that the Chapter is for the fallen brothers of an MC, but is any coincidence ?....thanks for your work in spreading the knowledge about MC culture, here in Europe we hardly know the reality....even the prominent MC that have chapters over here...don't seem to adhere much to what their mother chapters are all about. Much respect to you for your work
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
Not sure brother
Hey man, I love ya sho! Ur a top shelf speaker and u sho RESPECT on all the subject matter. I’ve haven’t heard u speak nothing but the truth. And especially on this particular post. I had forgotten about the whole “ama’ split thing .. kinda. Thanks for reminding me my brother. Be kool & be safe ✌️
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you Ric truly
Excellent video as always, Sose. Keep up the good work and keep doin' what you do.
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
Thank u jerry
It's the 13th Legion. Anyone who says otherwise dosen't know, but we rode with Caesar in Gaul. And that was only recently...
@DemonsRow
2 жыл бұрын
What lol
Awsome video and a great history lesson. 13 always ment M for whatever you want it to stand for. Ive seen the old pics of the square 13 patch but you just dropped some real knowledge. #GHOSTIN
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you
#Gostin - The Diamond 13 patch was explained to me by a patched member of Hell’s Angels who lived at the end of the street I lived on in Santa Monica CA, and it was the precursor to Diamond 1% patch. I never argued with him, he was a great neighbor and excellent Harley mechanic. For a case of beer and parts he would repair my bike. Love to my brother.
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
#Gho⚡tin
#ghostin I've learned so much from this show. Keep up the great work my man
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
#Gho⚡tin thank u
I was raised in the Heathens M/F (not to be confused with the Heathens MC) after many of the founding members moved from SoCal to Wyoming. They've been wearing the diamond 13 since 1973 and I was always told it was essentially the 1% patch and they never felt the need to change it.
Right on sose that's what I was taught by my family and my ol man ( Father ) and this is what I tell everyone that wants to know , however to gain that knowledge we have to know one another close !!!!!
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
Yes def
#ghostin in Muskegon mi. Sitting on 3 ridin free. Love your videos. Very informative Also love your mummra action figure. I had it when I was a young boy. Keep doing what you do. Thanks. Bigg dogg
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
Much love brother thank you
Obviously I'm very ignorant, I thought it was 12 jurors, 1 judge, not a chance in HELL! No clowning, I always thought that, thanks for this Sose! Once AGAIN I learned something that can save me trouble I don't need just cuz I didn't KNOW, ignorance don't mean shit to some Bikers, especially old ones
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
Theres still people saying no it means m for motorcycle ok bro lol
@leeriutzel4780
3 жыл бұрын
Good thing cuz I was gonna paint my bike with 13 on tank &/or back fender, maybe just stick to black (in my opinion, the color for a Superglide) perhaps just some nice silver pinstripe instead
@leeriutzel4780
3 жыл бұрын
@@DemonsRow I trust what you say brother, you know your stuff, & don't try to be something you not, but I can tell you the real deal, much respect, & you ever round my place you welcome at my campfire.
#Ghostin got it right dawg / got invited to ride with a well known MC tomorrow ! Appreciate knowledge you share.
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
Much love
I got it from research and from different Biker channels-that all collaborated. Esp. Dibber in the Wind., M stood for Marijuana and Motorcycle.
100% accurate. Learned that history from my father back in the 70s
Love old skool history. Important to know where the roots came from.
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
Much love
I'm not going to name drop who explained all this to me, especially on a forum like this. But that article is accurate.
Also, idk if anyone touched on this, but the early outlaw clubs referred to the AMA motorcyclists as "squares". So, they took the square and turned it on it's side!
@DemonsRow
2 жыл бұрын
O nice never heard that b4
Thanks for the history Sose. I was always told it represented a "Very Dangerous" man and to leave it at that......
@DemonsRow
Ай бұрын
Much resoect
My bad I started that comment before you said the same thing lol shoulda waited. But my dad schooled me on that hes also the one who sponsored me and I know he was 100% about keeping it original man and sticking to tradition.
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
Much respect nicco
@niccomalick9166
3 жыл бұрын
@@DemonsRow 🤟
20 year leo. People don’t understand, we all willingly enter into this little societal cat an mouse game out on the street. No hard feelings, just the game. But along with that is we’re all human, and we definitely have respect for the other teams involved. So long as the civilian populace isn’t being hurt, there’s no reason why we can’t shoot the shit, be human with each other, or cut each other breaks. Side note: I was just in a 10 year relationship and her brother is the VP of a 1%’er club which shall remained unnamed. Despite our chosen profession or lifestyle, I was always treated like family and treated him like my own brother.
Hoorah Bro, Good stuff as always, learning so much from you Bro....NUFF RESPECT!!!
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
Hoorah my brother always love
Another great video ...Ole school H.A. member taught me the true meaning of the 13 diamond patch
@DemonsRow
2 жыл бұрын
Much love
GHOSTIN!!!!! Good Video ! Pretty correct on the origins :) props!!!!! SYLM
@DemonsRow
2 жыл бұрын
#Gho⚡tin much respect
My cousin, who is a shot caller for 81's told me about the history of the Diamond 13 patch when I was a teenager..
I’ve always wondered what the 13 Standed for. You are the first one to educate me RESPECT fam. #GHOSTIN
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
Much respect #ghostin
# GHOSTIN from Missouri. Love your channel bro and getting me a bandanna for Father's Day
@SoseTheGhost
3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you brother
I originally heard the meaning of the 13 diamond as you describe. The early history of the AMA and the Outlaws coming from that. I heard know-nothings say it meant 'M' for murder for how someone allegedly got into an MC.
I'm saving up for my first bike. I used to ride on my dad's bike but I haven't been on one since he passed. Oklahoma doesn't have a big motorcycle community as far as I know lol. The videos are badass tho I'm learning a lot
@DemonsRow
3 жыл бұрын
My brother mike pro lids is out there theres a scene out there
#Ghostin, I have a 13 tatt , a square 13 ring , no diamond , no patches on my cut , just doing me , thanks Sose , good info , Respect .
@SoseTheGhost
3 жыл бұрын
Much love steve